{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Chainmail Dreams, Horsepower Screams, And A Third Row That Shouldn’t Exist","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/chainmail-dreams-horsepower-screams-and-a-third-row-that-shouldn-t-exist","audioUrl":"https://pdcn.co/e/www.buzzsprout.com/246908/episodes/18051788-chainmail-dreams-horsepower-screams-and-a-third-row-that-shouldn-t-exist.mp3","description":"Skip the time machine and grab the keys—we’re charting five Renaissance festivals worth the drive, then mashing the throttle on a set of street-legal legends before closing with a grounded, real-world review of the 2025 Toyota 4Runner. We start with why people keep returning to these immersive fairs: the craft markets, roaming characters, dense 16th‑century villages, and the freedom to show up as a spectator or a knight in chainmail. From Pennsylvania’s vineyard-backed village to Maryland’s nine-week run and Minnesota’s roomy grounds, we build toward Texas, the largest Ren fest in the U.S., where hundreds of shops, two dozen stages, and a sprawling campground turn weekends into stories you can’t make up.Then we pivot to the machines that rewired car culture. The Chevy Impala Z11, Pontiac Catalina Super Duty, Ford Thunderbolt, Dodge Hemi Dart, and Ford Fairlane 500 R-Code prove how factory “ratings” barely hinted at the truth. Lightweight bodies, big-inch V8s, and limited production created cars that ran elevens and reset expectations for what a street-legal car could be. Rarity, auctions, and a little fear from the automakers themselves only added to the legend.To bring it all home, we take a clear-eyed look at the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner. Still body-on-frame and proud of it, the latest generation swaps the old V6 for a turbo four that tows with confidence, pairs with an eight-speed, and balances on-road comfort with real off-road bones. The interior stays rugged with smart tech options, but the third row feels cramped and the long list of trims can overwhelm. We sort what’s worth paying for, where it stacks up against Wrangler and Bronco, and who will love it most.If you enjoyed the ride—from mead to muscle—follow the show, share it with a friend who needs a fall road trip idea, and leave a quick review to help more listeners find us.Be sure to subscribe for more In Wheel Time Car Talk!The Lupe' Tortilla RestaurantsLupe Tortilla in Katy, Texas Gulf Coast Auto ShieldPaint protection, tint, and more!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.---- ----- Want more In Wheel Time car talk any time? In Wheel Time is now available on Audacy! Just go to Audacy.com/InWheelTime where ever you are.----- -----Be sure to subscribe on your favorite podcast provider for the next episode of In Wheel Time Podcast and check out our live multiplatform broadcast every Saturday, 10a - 12nCT simulcasting on Audacy, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Twitch and InWheelTime.com.In Wheel Time Podcast can be heard on you mobile device from providers such as:Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music Podcast, Spotify, SiriusXM Podcast, iHeartRadio podcast, TuneIn + Alexa, Podcast Addict, Castro, Castbox, YouTube Podcast and more on your mobile device.Follow InWheelTime.com for the latest updates!Twitter: https://twitter.com/InWheelTimeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/inwheeltime/https://www.youtube.com/inwheeltimehttps://www.Facebook.com/InWheelTimeFor more information about In Wheel Time Podcast, email us at info@inwheeltime.com"},"annotations":[{"startTime":395.68,"endTime":400.7,"type":"car","title":"Ford Model T","url":"/cars/ford/model-t","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/1924_Ford_Model_T_Flivver_IAA_2023_1X7A0610.jpg","quote":"...is that a Model T perfect what is that it's an oil burner I can tell you that yeah...","canonicalId":"car:ford:model-t","priority":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Ford Model T is a historic automobile produced by Ford Motor Company from 1908 to 1927. 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