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Uh, and tonight we're fresh off of car week

and we're coming in hot, the good, the bad,

and really it was all good, much of it very good,

the funny and the surreal.

Car week didn't disappoint, and well,

we never did find any roof underwear.

We do have stories.

Oh, so many stories.

It's that car show.

It is that car show.

What's up, guys?

How are you?

Hey.

Still recovering.

Hell of a car week in the very best way.

Yeah, the best problem to have,

but yeah, I think we're all still half there

because it was such an amazing week.

I'm already looking forward to next year

and I'm still, yeah, still recovering from this.

Right.

Man.

We're not even a week out.

No, no, this was my second.

Dan, this was how many for you?

Probably half as many as Lindsay.

I reckon for me five or six.

Lindsay, I think this is number 33 for you.

Right, which is weird because I'm only 22,

but don't think too hard about it.

There was a few years where they did two a year, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you rack them up more quickly, exactly.

That's right, that's right.

So then if you skip, you don't drop your numbers either.

Right, yeah.

Well, I'm still processing it all.

Well, we were at car week, me and my little gang,

and if you've never been to car week,

you sort of end up hanging out with the people

that you stay with for the most part, right?

And obviously, Dan, you were there doing work stuff,

but so while we crossed paths,

we didn't spend most of our time together.

So we kind of each had our own adventures

and wanted to talk about those a little bit today.

I know we had some highlights, really no lowlights.

I don't think it was all,

it was just kind of degrees of amazingness,

you know, like it was last year.

Well, I was sort of marveling at that

once we were back, you know,

once we had all left the Monterey area

was how little we actually saw each other in person.

And I think that really illustrates car week,

if you haven't been there,

because we all had different schedules.

And so it's, there's so much going on.

We all had different schedules

that even the fact that we do the podcast together,

we kept bumping into each other spontaneously, momentarily.

And it was like high five and,

hey, I'll see you on Riverside on Thursday, we can catch up.

Yeah, I mean, that's just kind of how it is, you know,

and then Dan, you had all your other stuff going on.

So I don't know how you did it, but should we go down the list?

Yeah, really, really.

I didn't see you, Ryan, till maybe the part.

No, did I see you on Thursday night?

What was Thursday?

I saw Thursday morning climbing into a Land Rover.

That's right.

Right, right.

Well, and that's even funnier,

I had seen Ryan right before I saw you

and you two never saw each other.

No, no, no.

Not that event, yeah.

And to clarify, that was the tour de pebble, right?

Right.

So it's all the cars,

and most of the cars that are on the lawn

at the Concorde and elegans,

the drive is the 17 mile drive.

I was just a spectator.

It's up the highway one, I think.

This is what we did.

Because we were along the coast.

So the formal name is the Pebble Beach Tour Delegance.

And it's anyone who is exhibiting a car

on the lawn on Sunday and wants to drive their car.

And it's about an hour, hour and a half round trip.

And if they drive their car in this rally on Thursday,

then if it gets down to it during the judging on Sunday

and there's a tie between two cars in the class

or in whatever, the cars that have participated

and driven in the rally get an extra point.

So often it's a tiebreaker.

Interesting.

I thought it was interesting as well that you were,

so you were an a vintage Range Rover.

In that group of, I'm sorry, Land Rover rather.

Land Rover.

And that group of vintage Land Rovers

weren't necessarily being shown on the lawn,

but they were part of, I guess, the larger event.

But I think it was probably no coincidence

that they ran those after all the other cars.

We were kind of, there were, we weren't,

we were all thinking maybe we were towards the back,

but we ended up being kind of in the middle.

Oh, really?

And the cars, they had some additional cars

that didn't do the tour,

but all the cars that did the tour ended up,

they were on the lawn on Sunday.

And I was very lucky, I got to ride in,

it was a 1998 Defender 110.

And it was the one that was used by the US team

in the penultimate Camel Trophy rally.

So you weren't breaking down

because that was like jungle proof.

Right, it had to be, right?

They started in Chile and they ended in Argentina

for that rally.

But yeah, I mean, all of the cars that,

all of the Land Rovers that participated in the tour

have this tremendous overlanding history one way or another.

And they were all like preservation class,

basically unrestored.

A lot of them were private owners,

but what was remarkable for me

was how comfortable it was.

Like we all kept remarking, this is delightful.

And you might not expect that.

Considering some of the vehicles were steam powered

or made out of wood or, you know.

Right.

Yeah, that has been a Suiza one.

Oh, I mean, it was incredible.

Ended up winning it all, right?

But we should backtrack because I think the week

at least started for me with motorlux.

And that was the night before.

And so motorlux, if you don't know,

was put on by our friends at Hagerty.

So it's this social event.

It's this great party at the, what do they call it?

The Jetson.

The Monterey Jetson.

Right, where we all flew in, right?

Right.

And they transform this runway,

these taxiways into the event.

But there's also the broader auctions.

Right.

That are going on.

And it's kind of like the, I don't know,

it's kind of like the opening bell to everything, right?

So it's a great event.

They have these food stations, drink stations.

You run into all kinds of folks there.

It is a who if ever there was one.

It is a who's who.

Yeah.

And it gets a little tougher as the night goes on

because it gets darker and people drink more.

But it's a fantastic event.

So we all came out of that going into Thursday

for the tour and all the other things that went on.

But Thursday was kind of a chill day, right?

Compared to the days that would follow.

It depends.

I think it depends on what your schedule was.

But what else did you do on Thursday?

Thursday I had, I went to the track after the tour.

Oh, wow.

And then I had Range Rover had a reveal.

They did a one of one called the Asilomar

and it was a tribute to the Monterey Bay.

And so they revealed that Thursday evening.

So it was a very Rover day for me.

So you're a pro though.

Yeah, you've been doing this for a minute

and some of us are.

Did you get a fragrance?

I didn't.

But I did end up with something else.

With a Range Rover?

Yes.

Funny enough, I brought the Asilomar home in my suitcase.

Thank you for asking.

Well, I went to the Range Rover house

as they were setting up earlier in the day.

And they had an English lady who apparently

the biggest selling or the fast trajectory

in terms of products right now for fragrances

are in car smells.

So if you forget your Christmas trees

or your magic lights and stuff,

these are curated smells for your cars.

And so this lady was telling me through the story

and because Range Rover partnered with them,

we got a free package of it.

So you basically, they've curated from around the world

these different experiences

and they put them through a diffuser

which you can either hang from your wing mirror,

your rear view mirror,

or you can plug into your air vents.

The grant letter.

Yeah.

And essentially you can have your car smelling

and apparently it's so popular

that these millionaire billionaires

will ship these kits to their cars around the world.

So all their cars smell the same.

So anyway, that was a Range Rover,

Land Rover house thing that was quite cool.

It wasn't as cool as that car

which they were auctioning.

So you couldn't put a price on it

because it was a one-of-one.

They were accepting bids over the weekend

and the person who bid the highest was going home with it.

That's right.

And it was part of the proceeds are benefiting

the Monterey Bay, I think preservation group.

That's funny.

The sounds guy didn't tell me that bit.

There's a little name.

The proceeds are just going to the floor.

Part of the money is going to that.

But I thought, and yeah, I saw that,

I saw on Instagram that you had gotten

to see the car too.

This is how little we saw each other.

But I think one of the coolest things about the car

was the attention to detail in the seat fabric and upholstery

and part of the seats, they had designed it

to look like the crashing waves.

And so it had shimmering threads in the fabric

and kind of variegated and it was beautiful.

But it was really interesting to hear

about that attention to detail.

And then the way they had done the paint,

it was sort of an ombre, darker blue, lighter blue

to again like indicate and sort of be

tribute to the waters of the Monterey Bay and really unique.

Did you say ombre?

I did.

They should have called it the ombre.

They could.

They should have asked us.

What happened to that Ford position

looking for the nomenclature specialist?

Right.

I'll tell you what happened.

I clicked on it today.

I was going to apply and it's closed.

So there goes that dream.

Wow.

Congratulations to the new nomenclature expert at Ford.

We'd love to have you join us.

That's right.

I can't wait to hear what you come up with.

Right.

Oh, man.

That's Silamar has taken, just so we're clear.

The Silamar.

Yeah.

What does that mean?

It's the Bay, isn't it?

Oh, that's the Bay itself.

It's the name of the Bay.

The name of the Bay.

OK.

I didn't know.

Yeah, a Silamar Bay, I think.

OK.

That makes sense.

Yeah, it was beautiful.

And it was all blue, with the exception of the white porcelain.

Part of the door cards was white porcelain,

but the rest of it was all different shades of blue.

And if you want to see a video of it, it's on my Instagram.

OK.

That's right.

What's your Instagram, Dan, just in case people don't know?

Range Rover for hire at D9 NNYP.

There you go.

I think that night was also the Avants party.

Some of us made it, some of us didn't.

I ended up getting together for dinner with our local Denver

McLaren rep, which was fun.

Had a nice meal on the harbor, which was cool.

Of course, we went to dinner at a pasta place on the water,

which seemed to me didn't quite track for me.

So we all ended up ordering lobster ravioli.

But anyway, the Avants party here was a good time.

We ended some friends.

It was fun.

We saw the dice piece.

If you're ever at a party, you want

to be with the dice piece, because they're

really long line for pizza.

And I don't quite know how, but John

convinced the guy cooking the pizzas

to swap the pizzas for beer.

So we managed to skip the line and grab two fresh pizzas.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

Hands down to Johnny, where you played the system and won.

Yeah, and if you don't know John Dicey,

he is the Porsche salesperson you want.

He's at Porsche Colorado Springs.

And he swears can get you any car you want at Sticker.

So I'm not kidding.

Now you know.

And he can swap a nice dress for you.

What now?

All right, Charles.

That's T's.

You name it.

Yeah, give him a call.

Anyway, but yeah, they were there.

So Louis is his son, and his dad Todd was there.

And Todd's here, too.

He's such a cool guy.

We all came to the conclusion that he looks exactly

like a young Roger Penske.

I don't know why this hadn't crossed our minds before.

It is true.

And I think he got a couple of second glances.

I think he got a couple of policies to different areas

because he looked like Roger Penske.

You're the guy with the Porsche 963, they thought.

So anyway.

They thought that Todd looked like Roger Penske.

Yeah, that's amazing.

Yeah, he got into Casa Ferrari, and I think it was Pali

because they thought he was Roger Penske.

Guys, Roger Penske's here.

And he didn't bring the 963, but it's OK.

I didn't see him in one, but he should definitely

wear a Penske hat next year.

There we go.

Yeah, it doesn't really complete the illusion.

Yeah, absolutely.

He was like one year at the quail.

I don't know if you guys remember,

but there was a fake Brad Pitt.

No.

When was that?

It was about three years ago.

I missed it completely.

There was room as he bought this house in Carmel,

and he was just finishing the filming of the movie,

the F1 movie.

And there was a guy who looked just like Brad Pitt,

but it wasn't Brad Pitt walking around the quail.

So all these people were after selfies and stuff.

With the fake Brad Pitt.

Brad Pitt impersonator extraordinaire.

It's just Dan Pilling.

Sorry to disappoint.

Yeah.

I didn't know Brad Pitt was British.

Yeah, just go with it.

Well, the next day, I think, was the first sort

of big event, right?

Signature event.

That's the quail.

If you don't know, the quail is really, I think,

becoming one of the go-to car week things.

Maybe second only to Pebble at this point.

But they're different animals, for sure.

Right.

People definitely talk about them in the same breath

in terms of comparisons.

Yeah.

How would you describe quail versus Pebble

for those who haven't been to car week?

A lot of new car announcements.

More modern cars, right?

Quail is much less classic cars.

It's much more the manufacturers are there

with a reveal, especially if you

get to go early in the morning, which is when they do.

They call them the press conferences.

And that's when they're unveiling all of the new cars

that then you can walk around and see during the day.

And there are some classics, but Pebble

is primarily focused on classic cars

and the real true collectors examples.

I think one of the bigger differences

is when you go to quail, if you have a ticket

and you get in, everything is like they really

roll out the red carpet in terms of the experience.

There's five or six giant tents with different themed food.

There are lemonade stands, ice cream stands,

scatting through out.

The handjuice champagne on the way in.

Right.

Champagne on the way in.

It's inclusive, whereas Pebble is different in that way.

If you don't know somebody or if you

don't have access to a suite or a hospitality

or a manufacturer's tent area,

people will bring in like picnics on the lawn.

And Pebble but quail is much more sort of like feeding you

almost against your will.

Yeah, it's kind of the Pebble of the people, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a little more.

The people who can explore it.

Right.

The rich people, having the rich people.

Yeah.

But I think what's interesting is that all of the,

at least a lot of the exhibitors or manufacturers,

Myers-Manx is there, Roof is there.

And they have started even having,

like they always had water and champagne.

But I know last year Roof had breakfast burritos,

if you got there early enough.

Myers-Manx has amazing sun hats that they've been known for.

So it's sort of, it's like party favors, non-stop quail.

Speaking of Roof, I saw no Roof underwear,

but I did get my Roof hat.

So, you know, like.

Nice.

It was pretty police.

Did you go and ask them if they had any pounds?

Well, even the hat was difficult.

Let me tell you, because they don't just

hand them out when you go up.

No, they don't.

You got to sort of have a conversation,

and they kind of hint at the hat,

and they grow them back, and it's a big production.

They get it out of the box.

They kind of punch it into shape.

Can't imagine what they do if they had undies.

But I think it's.

It'd be much more awkward for everyone.

Yeah, it's, and I still mean it.

I would absolutely wear those in the outside Roof.

But I think it's kind of proof of the accessibility

of the thing.

You can go up, and you can talk to Alois Roof,

and the Roof family.

You can go up, and you can talk to the engineers

that people have built the cars.

You can get yourself a hat.

But that's everywhere.

You can go to Singer and talk with our friend,

Seamus, and he'll spend time with you

and regale you with great stories.

And there's all this amazing hardware, like Roof,

and like Singer.

But then there are concept cars,

and then there are like these newcomers, right?

With this like amazing stuff you've never seen before.

Like, is it Echentria?

Is that the name of the Italian outfit that?

Is that the Diablo one?

Yeah, reimagines the Diablos.

Yeah, I know I'm butchering that name.

But it's just like stuff you didn't even know existed

until you show up at the wheel.

And you can go up in these there.

Right, so our friends from Colorado Springs had a car.

Yeah, absolutely.

So Joe and team have built a super off-road.

So I think like a Dakar on steroids.

They built it with Ramon Dumas,

who drove to eat it.

Yes, so they had a stand.

So I managed to catch up with them

and I probably just interrupted your train of thought, Ryan.

But no, no.

And I think they're going to build ten of those

and put them up for sale.

So we can all go in on one.

But they're really something to behold.

And we can get to the Porsche party later,

but I do believe that they got pulled over on the way

in that car. So look at that.

There's a bit more of a story to that

because I caught up with Joe and we were talking about the car.

And I said, are you going to come to the Porsche party tonight?

And he went, yeah.

And I went, you know what you should do.

And he's like, well, I said, park that red.

That red car in front of the Porsche party.

You'll get so much press.

You'll get so much photography.

He's like, that's a good idea.

So I am in an Uber coming down to the Porsche party.

And as I'm coming down,

I see that he's been pulled over by the cops.

So now I automatically feel guilty

because it was my idea that he brought the car down.

But apparently Justin had a

permission to pass permission to drive slip.

So actually the police just wanted to have a look at it and they let him off.

That's someone else I didn't see, but for five minutes, all car.

We call Justin Underwood from Porsche, Colorado Springs.

So I know I didn't see him at all.

I mean, it's remarkable that we saw each other

like a couple of times each, honestly.

When you think about our schedules and the number of people

and the number of things that were going on.

I know, I know.

Well, back to the quail, though.

You know, it's always amazing, right?

I've talked last year about arriving to Car Week

and I am seated in a restaurant next to James May, right?

And this year, I had a similar experience

where I'm at one of these many food stations at the quail

and I've gotten my food and my friends are coming back.

My group are coming back with drinks and so I sort of saved room for them.

And this this tall, handsome man kind of comes to the table.

So, well, can I can I sit across from you?

And I said, sure.

I didn't really think much about it.

And then everyone else, including John Deist

and the people who are really no come back and like that's that's that's Timo.

That's Timo. He's the the president and CEO of Porsche Cars North America.

Right. And then I clicked and then we, you know,

and had a nice conversation, super nice guy.

But this is the kind of stuff that happens at the quail

and throughout Car Week, right?

You know, I amazing people watching.

Yeah.

And I think I said to you,

he was in agreement that the GT4 was the best car Porsche made.

I did hear that.

Now, there must have been there might have been something lost in translation,

but it may have been a 4.0 GTS.

But yeah, it's I did overhear a couple.

You know, they look like they were a money couple.

But I did hear a man at the quail tell his partner

that this is lovely, but it's good to know

that we're worth as much as everyone else.

Wow. And that's that's a flex.

There you go.

Well, and that may not have been true, but.

That is one of the ways that quail has been evolving.

And I've heard people comment like, and I know Matt Farah related this story

last year, but yeah, part of the reason that the

hypercar manufacturers, supercar manufacturers, the more modern

you know, current manufacturers display there is because they

and we talked to Johnny about this a little bit too,

but they are able to debut a car and, you know,

I'm sure there's some technical definition, you know, fudging,

but basically sell out at the quail.

And, you know, Matt heard a couple, like you said, Ryan,

they were talking and he overheard them.

And I don't know which manufacturer they were at,

but they were debating which colors to get.

And they said, OK, well,

this one's going to be this and this one's going to be this.

And that is a big part of that event is the manufacturers

and they bring in their clients and everybody's shopping.

Yeah. And something to remember for those for those of us

who aren't shopping to maybe not take up too much time

of these folks who are there and accessible

because there are actually people, you know, throwing down dollars

and, you know, and that does happen.

And I, you know, I hope that we get to that point

where we can do the same.

But for now, it's a spectacular place to window shop.

And, you know, I got some favorites from the quail.

Dan, I liked the Gordon Murray S1,

which is they're very careful to say

it's not the evolution of the McLaren F1,

but it looks very much like the evolution of the McLaren F1.

And yeah, that car for me was the one of the show.

Yeah. Yeah.

Would you think that?

And what do you think about it, right, as an evolution?

Because I think we all hold the F1

up as sort of the holy grail, like the the alpha and the omega,

you know, of supercars, right?

And I think it is, right?

But it's, you know, it's also been a few years.

I liked this new thing, but it also wasn't as pure in form

as the original car, right?

And I think that's one of the things

that makes that car beautiful.

That said, you know, you can't look the same.

And I thought they did a hell of a job of evolving that original shape.

But that was definitely one of the stars of the show, for sure.

The quail is tough.

If you've never been to the quail, it's really it's a it's a spoil of riches,

right? There are things that I heard people talk about later

that I didn't even see, right?

Don't even ask me where they were because I didn't even see them, right?

You know, but it's it's it's like the world's best,

like state fair, right?

Like, you know, before you look, there's a booth with something cool,

you know, it's just it's overwhelming.

It's overwhelming.

But what were your two favorite cars?

Me? Well, either of you, in any order.

I really like the Porsche Ramon Dumas one, like,

and I don't know what they're calling it.

But I just love the concept.

I thought Edith was such an amazing story and movie.

And so I like that they're honoring that and sort of extending the story.

But yeah, it's interesting, Ryan, that you said there's things you didn't even see.

I know, because it tells you it tells you how much is there

and in a much smaller space, I think, than Pebble.

But it is. It really is like an overwhelming candy store

for people that are car people.

You go in and it's just like, where do you even look?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I do believe that that car will be called the Lewis RS.

Perfect. So you said you heard it here first.

Same because they have an Instagram account with something completely different.

Sorry to piss on your call.

What are they calling it? What are they calling it?

So their Instagram Instagram account is RD,

which I'm assuming stands for Romain Dumas.

It's RD Xtreme with an A.

So it's RD dot extreme.

So if you want to follow them.

And is it extreme?

Did you say with an X starting?

It's E X T. OK, E M E.

So I'm the proper way of spelling extreme, right?

Just the normal way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I wonder if you'll follow them.

Yeah, it's hard to say.

I so I really like the singer that was there that minty green.

Was it the is it the DLS?

I don't even know.

It was just fantastic.

I would absolutely buy a singer if I had the money.

But, you know, I was really, really drawn in by those

Chentricas, I think, is what they're called these these.

So it's this Italian firm.

Talked with a guy in charge.

He said he would come on the show.

So maybe that's why I like the cars so much.

But, you know, you start with the Diablo, right?

We've always talked about, like, what's the next singer, right?

And I've made a case for the R 107 Mercedes SLS, right?

Is a is a car that it's got a great foundation.

The sky's the limit.

And, you know, as wonderful as they were,

they maybe really weren't the super light, you know, sports cars,

you know, that that the name would would lead you to believe,

but a lot of potential there everywhere that can be picked up cheaply.

OK, Diablo is not so much.

But I think the Diablo is a car, right?

That's got a lot of room for improvement.

I tried to drive a Diablo a couple of months ago.

You know this, it broke along the way, right?

And so what they do is they they find the I think in the words

of the founder and CEO, the worst Diablo is they can find

as long as the engine is good, right?

The body doesn't matter so much.

So as long as it's got a good engine, a good drivetrain,

these cars are good candidates.

Now, I don't know how many Diablos they built,

but it certainly wasn't like the nine six four

where they were grown on, you know, trees, right?

Basically, you know, I can't imagine it was

we should look this up if there are only a way we could look this up.

But I'm guessing there were, you know, a few thousand Diablos ever built,

maybe like low few two, three thousand, right?

It's just my guess.

But but but point is they they that's it's a car that was,

you know, built in kind of a rough era for car building.

And of course, you know, the Diablo, I think, span three different owners, right?

So it's a car that, you know, that that I think can be improved.

How many, Dan, how many I would guess.

And this is only a guess they were built 1990 to 2001.

I would guess in total they made two thousand eight hundred and eighty four.

I would guess of which nine hundred regular Diablos, maybe five hundred and

thirty VTs, maybe four hundred and sixty five VT roadsters,

thirty GTRs and three, three, seven VT, six liters.

But that's only a guess.

Rough estimates, of course.

Well, let me let me let me wax poetic a little bit on these things, right?

I should probably learn how to pronounce the name properly.

But they take the Diablo and, you know, all the stuff that, you know,

we quote unquote hate about the Diablo, right?

That the interiors, the switch gear and all that is is replaced.

They they they expose the engine in a way that it's it's visible.

They they they tuck the the tailpipes up in a way.

It's there's an artistry.

They're much like singer where things are just done right.

You'd be hard pressed to point at something and say, hey,

I would have done that differently in the interiors really are one of the

parts of the Diablo that that are ripe for improvement.

And and if you look at these cars, I think it's a gentrica cars on an Instagram,

maybe a dot in the middle of those two words.

But, you know, the switch gear, right?

The the interior, it is basically like much like a singer.

What those cars would be if they were built today.

They're just fantastic.

And just again, as someone, you know, who's had a career in design,

you pick up on these little things, the textures, the shapes.

They look appropriate to the car, but they're also executed at a level

that, you know, Lamborghini of the 90s could never have imagined.

So I don't actually know how much they cost.

But if the donor car is two hundred and some thousand dollars,

I'm guessing the final product is not a cheap one.

So check them out.

They just the thing really just just pulled me over.

There was also that is that the Ring Brothers that did that Aston Martin.

That was beautiful. That was beautiful.

Now the Ring Brothers, you know, I think they're from Wisconsin

of all places as am I.

So but they they've never really been on my radar.

I think they've done more traditional sort of restomod stuff in this thing.

Again, takes a car, probably one of the, I don't know,

one of the lesser appreciated Aston's, although prices have come up a lot

over the years, this original vantage that they built,

I guess, 70s through the 90s. Is that what you'd say, Dan?

Yeah, it was important.

Wasn't it for a while?

Yeah, yeah.

Staying ask, right?

Yeah, in the best way.

But but again, they've taken this thing and completely reinvented it

in a way that just really elevates it.

And I think that's the test for these restomods.

Right. Are you genuinely improving, right?

Across the board with the with the end result?

Because, you know, some of these aren't right.

Some of these don't right. We've all seen them.

I won't name names.

But these were two that really stood out to me as exceptional,

exceptional end products. So.

Well, and I think, like, you're a good judge because we've all been lucky

enough to see, like you said, there are, you know, a good number of companies

doing that with a variety of cars.

And we've all been lucky enough to see several of those in person.

And so you do start to compare, but it also hones your ability

to sort of discern who's doing it well and who's not.

So yeah, it's really, I think it says a lot that those two were your favorites.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, because it is a it's a crowded field, right?

Right. You guys know this.

Well, it's the time we're talking to people, right?

You know, it's just we're running into friends or running into listeners.

You know, we're meeting new people.

And so there's, you know, there's a lot of this very little

like car sort of appreciating actually being done, fortunately, unfortunately.

But, you know, these are these are cars that stood out, stood out to me.

So I don't know. I think go ahead. Yeah.

No, they they do pack a lot into like not really that much space geographically.

Yeah. But it takes a lot, like you said, because we're all lucky enough

to know so many people at this point.

And, you know, enthusiasts, attendees, and we've all gotten to know people

at the different manufacturers too.

So like you said, to have any meaningful time with any of those people

and then try and see all the cars, you would really need a couple days.

Yeah, I know, I know.

It's it's it's just like just like that.

But like what an embarrassment of riches.

No, it really is.

It's just it's it's turning into, like I said, one of the when the must do events.

Yeah, it's it's really, you know, formulating its own sort of flavor.

I'm always impressed with what shows up.

It's a good vibe.

I mean, any any place where they hand you a drink on the way in

is a good place, you know, in my mind.

And, you know, it's just it's just it's kind of a scene.

It's sort of it's sort of that become the social hub, I think,

you know, for for the week or, you know, a great kickoff after after motor locks.

Of course, favorite food stand.

What was your favorite?

So they do these food stands.

They do like kind of international cuisine, right?

So there was another French one.

There's an Italian one.

I heard the American one was pretty good.

Didn't get to it.

But I guess they had a mean burger, mean slider.

What would you guys go?

Would you or do you even make it?

Do you think?

No.

Well, I think one of my favorites and I don't know.

I didn't go this year, but the or I didn't make it there.

But the cotton candy, they had cotton candy and rose.

Completely. There you go.

And it was just a little stand.

But I think one other thing that is so unique to Quail is the

and it's not the Blue Angels.

I don't know which planes it is, but it's a military jet flyover.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's not the who are the other ones?

The red and blanking, but it's like the Blue Angels

and they do a flyover in the afternoon with the smoke

and it's really stunning.

And there's not a lot of car vents where they do that.

No, no.

It's also funny because the DJ knows it's coming

and puts the old Top Gun music on.

Yes.

So if you I remember the first time I was there

and it happened and you're like, oh, Top Gun.

Oh, wait a minute.

Yeah, it's it's just a it's a great event.

You know, look forward to next year.

Again, great to see so many people who listened to the show

who came up and said hello and other things.

And and yeah, it's just just a great kickoff for the week.

You know, you mentioned not a lot of room, maybe relative to Pebble,

but I had a guy shut up Ryan in my group who I guess had a

I want to say he wore a pedometer, but I don't think that's a thing anymore.

He had like an Apple watch, right?

That got contract of his steps.

And I think every day we were there, which was five days.

I think we walked at least six and a half miles each day that we were.

We were covered in the six months before.

Yeah, you end up covering so much ground and most of it on foot.

Yeah, I remember last year, the first year I went,

I decided it would be a good idea to wear like nice shoes,

like dress shoes.

And this year I've just really given myself to, you know,

to nice, clean sneakers, you know, every day.

I think that's that's the move.

But anyway, so any other quail stuff of note before we move along?

It's it's amazing.

Yeah, it's the it's the best summary. Yes.

Yeah. So that that was a busy day because that was also,

I don't know if either one of you got over to Radwood.

We of course, we had Art Cervantes, one of the Radwood founders

who's now that's right, Rudy, who I got stuck in some of the famous

Car Week traffic and did not make it.

So I'm really curious to hear how it was.

I was so sorry to miss it.

Yeah, it was it was cool.

I found out later that it was a pop up.

It wasn't like a full Radwood experience.

I had gone to the Radwood event at Amelia last year in 24.

And it was a huge event.

And this wasn't that that said it was still very, very cool.

Unfortunately, it's kind of cool and misty that night.

So it wasn't like the best for photo, you know, taking and all that.

But it was a great event. There was some big.

I saw some some some big names there.

I saw Camisa, I saw Ed Bolia and some others

think it a chance to cross pass with art.

But how tall is Ed Bolia?

Did you say this?

He stood next to Doug DeMiro.

Yes, Doug DeMiro looks short.

No way. I'd never realized how tall he was.

They're both tall and both much thinner than I expected them to be.

So that that kind of caught me off guard.

But, you know, but yeah, both both large, large gentlemen.

And, you know, I don't know how they fit in some of the cars

that they have driven or even own.

I saw Doug driving around in his Countach.

And I think Ed was in his was it his Diablo VS, the Victoria's secret car?

We were all a little perplexed when we rolled up to Radwood and we see this Diablo.

Of course, we've all heard of the SV, which was sort of a later Diablo.

And there was this car with that same font, that same script font, but it's a VS.

And I think the story was that it was some sort of giveaway car or something

for Victoria's Secret. Maybe they gave it to one of their models.

You know, I don't know. I've got to do a little digging on that.

But I believe that that's the car that he brought.

And I think one, the one, the whole thing that this is, you should.

I mean, that's, I mean, you know, that's kind of Pete Radwood, right? So.

Well, they used to do those.

It was like Victoria's Secret's version of the Neiman Marcus, like, you know,

the over the top dream Christmas gifts, where they're like,

there's one of these, you know, Lamborghinis.

I wonder if they did that one year because they were trying to to set

up, you know, they were trying to establish a secret just to guess, just to guess.

But maybe in 1998, they created two called the Victoria's Secret edition.

But again, it's just a guess.

Right. Like if you had to just like shot in the dark.

Yeah. Yeah.

Was that because you remember they used to do those million dollar bras

covered in diamonds.

And it was like the dream gift catalog or something.

Yeah. Yeah.

Let's say maybe in the 1998 one, that was an option.

Wasn't there a car like covered in rhinestones or something that was driving?

That was a Valkyrie.

That was the Valkyrie, right?

Yeah. Someone had bedazzled the Valkyrie.

Because if the Valkyrie is not enough car for you, you bedazzle it, right?

Yeah.

They're like, how do we possibly top this?

No, hey, I mean, you know.

Swarovski crystals.

That's right.

So I think that Radwood this year, and we'll talk about Concorso Italiano,

which is the next thing, but that was part of something you called it's called

the Patek, which was at a place that was called Bayonet Blackhorse,

which is another, you know, apparently golf courses are, you know,

everywhere on the Monterey Peninsula.

And that's where that was.

But that that night was, you know, one of the OEM parties

that I think the three of us try never to miss.

And that is the aforementioned Porsche party.

That's right.

Why is that party so good?

I love that party.

I love the people I run into.

The food is great.

It's just a great scene.

But what's your take on the Porsche party and what makes it so great?

I think it is, like you said, the food is great.

The crowd is good.

And it's it has a similar feel to quail in the sense that once you're in

yeah, everything is included.

Yeah. And I think the food really is delicious.

It's high quality.

It's unique, which is not always the case at an event like that

where you're feeding a crowd.

But it's it's really good.

It's scallops.

It's Tomahawk steak and it's free if you've got a ticket.

And that's the that's the best part, you know, it's once you're in

your and it's a really fun crowd.

And it's the barn location where they do it.

The barns at Cooper, Malera is a really unique venue.

And I think plus there's an element of, you know, sort of

exclusivity of like, did you get into the Porsche party?

So, you know, it feels nice to get it without rattling off the famous faces.

There were some key folks there that we were rubbing elbows with.

And it was just a lot of fun.

But everyone was at ease.

It was cool. Last year, I didn't see him this year.

But last year, we ran into Andres.

Andres, yeah, GT, Mr.

GT himself didn't see him there this year.

Did you?

I don't think he was here this year.

I was to assess some other other folks.

But yeah, great night.

We actually got to catch up a little bit there.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you guys get to see the nine six three while you were there?

Yeah. Yeah.

But we should probably explain that Lindsey wasn't there this year.

And, you know, that's not because she didn't get an invite.

Because you got a better invite.

I didn't need I'm just realizing, no, you were there.

See, it's hard to keep on the street.

I know. Well, we were all there together last year.

Yeah, that's fun.

And that was I think that was the only time

that we were all together last year was at the Porsche party.

Because again, we all had such different schedules.

But no, this year, unexpected, like last minute,

I had a plan change.

My my whole Friday changed,

which I think is also very indicative of car week.

If you are, you know, trying to do all these different events,

you go into it thinking, OK, I know what my Wednesday looks like.

I know what my Thursday looks like Thursday night.

My Friday completely changed.

But in the best way,

I ended up getting to attend the Hagerty house reception

for the checkered flag 200.

And again, there was a Ferrari group that was also there.

And that was really fun.

Great house. Yeah.

And it was not far from the Land Rover house,

which is where I ended up going next.

For a dinner with some clients,

but also a lot of members of the media that were people from Edmonds

and Maxim and then some freelancers and

my new friend, Scott Brady, who is the editor of Overland Journal.

He's the one that drove the defender that I wrote in on the tour.

And then some of the members of the Jaguar and Land Rover

PR team who have gotten to know.

So I got to go have dinner at the house and, you know,

hang out with all the all the all of them.

And it was really fun.

We should probably explain what this concept of of houses is, right?

Much like, I guess, Harry Potter or college,

there are these houses, generally mansions

in the Carmel Monterey area that are either owned or, you know,

taken over for the week by OEMs,

other automotive entities, insurance companies, you know, others.

And it's it's it's where a lot of the action is.

It gets to where a lot of the great parties are a lot of the media events.

I got to go to thank you to you, Lindsay, the Hagerty House.

I think the following day for a media event.

And yeah, I got to sit in with

for a really great presentation by a friend, Sasha, Neelu cars.

It was fascinating. It was great.

Got to ask questions.

We got to walk through the whole design process.

And yeah, it's just it's I think it's a concept

that's kind of unique to car week, right?

You know, and, you know, just one of those one of the many things

that makes car week special.

And I think, you know, one of the one of the nice things about,

I guess, being in the business, if you want to call it that.

Or, you know, doing a podcast or writing or whatever,

as you get access to some of these things.

And it's just it's a pretty neat perk and kind of cool concept.

So it's a good night.

Ryan, like when you cross the Monterey County line,

there is like a sorting hat like momentarily.

I was wondering here, Rangeway, we were going to play in Quidditch.

That's where I was.

BMW, because they were right next door.

So that's right out there, the first tier.

And then they worked their way up the bracket.

I hear Jaguar is an easy mark these days.

But, you know, hey, we didn't talk about that Jaguar

that showed up at the quail.

Like that was the car.

That was the car that was in, you know,

the buzz was all about, you know.

Right. Well, and it was at MotorLux as well.

OK. And then, yeah, I'm sure.

Yeah, yeah, MotorLux is where we saw it first.

And then they had a like a design studio in downtown Monterey

that they had it on display on Saturday.

And they had the car and they had a forum with some of the designers.

And you could get up close.

I mean, I don't know about you guys,

but it was wild to see it in person

after having seen all of the print and the media.

And obviously all of the discussions and the buzz

and the opinions to walk in and see it in person.

I had a moment like, that can't be real.

Like, wait a minute. There it is.

And it's huge.

Yeah. And it's what would you call the color?

It was kind of a.

Oh, it's like a brilliant, like super intense.

So Ford used to have a color similar to that called Moonlight Blue.

OK. And it's just this very intense.

It's like, if you've seen the Range Rover Sport SV,

they were very intense, royal blue metallic.

And it was like that, but in a matte.

Yeah, yeah. Like this almost like almost purple.

You almost can't see it.

It's such a. Sure, right.

Absorbs light, you know. Yeah.

And I got to say, it's not a bad looking thing.

I think people just again, we've talked about this at Nausea,

but I think it just it just departed so much

from the design language of Jaguar as we've known it.

So good on them.

It was kind of like a flex, right?

To, you know, have that thing front and center, right?

At these, at these events.

But well, and it was there was something

and I don't know what the experience was for you guys.

There was something about seeing it in person.

And maybe it was because we've seen all the pictures.

It wasn't the initial shock that we all had

when it first debuted in the ads and all the media.

But it was less stark or less aggressive,

visually in person than it was in the photos.

I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaking of cars and speaking of houses, I had a funny story.

You went to the you went to all these houses.

Yeah, we we got an invitation somewhere

along the week to go to the Koenigsegg house.

OK, now Koenigsegg is not a, you know, a car, you know,

I'm super familiar with. I appreciate them.

I think they're awesome.

There's always the question.

Koenigsegg versus Pagani, which what do you got?

Right? I've always claimed Koenigsegg.

I just I've always liked the way they looked.

Obviously, they're amazing performers.

They're doing some amazing things.

Christian Von Koenigsegg was making the round at Car Week.

Didn't quite work up the courage to say hello to him.

But somewhere along the line,

we got an invitation to the Koenigsegg house. OK.

So three of us roll up.

It's my buddy Colin Seckl,

who you both know, had a ranger of a sport for the week.

And I've got thoughts on that, which we can come back to.

He toned it down this year, then.

What's that?

He toned it down this year

because last year he had the electric comma.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's when those were pretty new.

And I think, yeah, we had people taking pictures.

And it was, yeah, it was that was an

and it didn't fit anywhere.

This was at least a slightly smaller car.

Yeah, that was an enormous car for Carmel.

So this was a ranger of a sport, a nice appliance,

white, right from the rental kind of it was a great,

you know, vehicle to shuttle around in.

But so Colin was driving.

Colin's a big dude.

I'm not a small guy.

I'm in the passenger seat

and in the backs that we have our friend, Brian Rudin.

And if you listen to the show, you know, Brian,

because he's got an amazing garage

and he's let me drive some of his cars

to write about for auto blog and to talk about here.

So we roll up to this house and you kind of picture it.

It's much like the Hagerty house

or one of these others where, you know,

it's a driveway off a residential street,

you know, kind of tree lined, but it's a house, right?

And it's not, you know, it's not a parking lot.

There's a little driveway and so we go in

and we see two Koenig's eggs,

two Koenig's egg cars on the left.

And then a couple of obviously like rental cars on the right.

What was it? BMW was like a Chevy Malibu or something.

But there's really only room for those four cars, right?

And we just thought it was strange.

Maybe there's a shuttle we missed

that we should have taken or whatever.

And but it's strangely quiet.

So we roll up in this thing.

And again, there's one way in, one way out.

And there were three or four sort of lean, young Swedish,

you know, men polishing cars and just sort of, you know,

I don't know, hanging out.

I thought you were about to say masseuses.

Well, they could have been masseuses.

They could have, what I found was interesting.

I think we're about to find out, Dan.

Yeah.

They were all like dressed in like,

do you remember parachute pants back in this?

And they seem to sort of have like these sort of fitted

sort of, you know, suits on like parachute pants,

white t-shirts.

And then they all had the Koenig's egg ghost.

If you know the Koenig's egg ghost, it's a ghost.

It's this, I think sort of this, this Air Force,

Swedish Air Force derived symbol.

I think the company started in a former Swedish Air Force

hang or something.

All had these, so it was, I don't want to say cult-like,

but they were all kind of dressed the same.

And then all had these medallions around their necks.

And so we roll up and in Koenig's egg,

if you're listening, this is, this is,

these are just observations.

I very, very much want to be re-invited next year.

So we roll up and we're kind of thinking

someone's going to come out to greet us,

tell us where to park, that kind of thing.

And, you know, the one young Swedish fellow comes up

and Colin rolls down his window and he looks in

and he sees Colin, he looks at me

and he sees Brian in the back seat.

And he kind of, I don't know, hangs out, you know,

over the, over the window that's down

and he looks at and he goes, hey, what's going on?

And Colin says, I don't know, you tell me.

And the guy from Koenig's egg goes,

well, what are you looking to do?

And none of us really know how to reply.

And it felt very illicit.

You're like, hold on, what are the options?

And yeah, in this conversation,

went back and forth a few times,

it was very awkward and strange.

And, you know, we had on good authority

that we were welcome to stop by any time

that it was an open house, right?

And finally, you know, it came out that,

oh, well, well, the, it wasn't an open house,

but we were welcome to park and check out the cars

if we wanted, but the family, as they referred to,

it was all gone, they were out and about,

they would be back later and we could come back later

if we wanted.

And we just decided to sort of cut our losses

and slowly back.

It was very Swedish children of the corn

is what I'm getting at.

Which is atypical for car we, but that's why you go.

I'm wondering if that's the title for our show.

Ain't no corn like Swedish corn,

but it was, I want to say they weren't friendly

because they weren't.

I think they were just genuinely perplexed as were we.

And, you know, I'm sure not many people have the,

you know, have the balls to drive right up

to the Koenigsegg house without invitation,

which I think is what they thought we were doing.

Or I thought, you know, we were in this Range Rover,

maybe they thought we were,

I don't know, the protection for the guy in the back seat.

No, maybe he was a wealthy guy or something.

It was, so they didn't want to,

they didn't want to, you know, tell us no, right?

You know, they didn't want to, you know,

ruin some potential deal or whatever,

because as we've discussed, these deals do happen

during car week.

They're trying to divine who you're protecting

in the back seat.

And, hey, Brian could buy a Koenigsegg, I guess,

is the thing too, but we slowly backed out,

wave goodbye awkwardly,

and we never saw the Koenigsegg family again.

So anyway.

And you and Colin are available

as security details for me, sorry, that's what I'm hearing.

I don't know how threatening I am anymore.

You know, you guys, you know, I turned 50 tomorrow.

50 tomorrow.

Oh, oh, wow, in the sky or whatever.

Yeah.

Well, happy early birthday.

Thank you.

And if you're listening the day of the show, happy birthday.

Yeah.

I think we would ask everyone should send a message

on his Instagram to wish him a happy birthday.

I'll take it.

Anything that will lift me from the malaise

of what's officially, I think,

old man era is welcome.

Entering your very own malaise era.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I am the equivalent of a 7.2 liter V8

that makes 120 horsepower, right?

That's, is that what you're saying?

At least you know an old diesel.

No, no, that's it.

Now, one of those old automobile diesels,

which would, which would, you know,

turn off cylinder banks and really be ineffective.

Now, I'm going into this with a smile on my face.

I think, you know, some new ideas

about how to live life, right?

You know, things that, you know,

15, 20 years ago where Vandy are now

just about staying alive, staying healthy.

I can show you back, it doesn't hurt.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

So I do currently have a temporary crown on a tooth.

So I am entering my fifties with a temporary crown,

just yet another reminder of age

and all that comes with it.

But yeah, it's, it's definitely a new chapter.

I'm writing an article right now

about much of what we're talking about for auto blog.

Look at that.

And it started as sort of, you know,

I don't know, I guess an ode to car week

and has sort of devolved into a, I don't know.

Reflections on your own place.

Reflections on aging.

Yeah.

Check it out, it's great.

It's a really uplifting read.

That's what I'm hearing.

Yes, it is.

And also really know how to party.

Absolutely, you know, but thank God for car week, right?

I mean, because, you know,

it does afford us these opportunities to live a little,

right?

And, you know, you don't think about politics.

You're not checking the news.

You know, it might as well be 25 while you're there,

right?

And, you know, it's just an amazing, amazing week.

It is, it is a little bit of,

it's like, it's like the dream week for car enthusiasts

and people that love driving.

And it's like, we all agree to just suspend reality

and just enjoy all of the crazy stories and opportunities

that come our way.

And it's magical.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, there's definitely like a,

there's a high, right, that lingers, right?

For a couple of weeks at least.

Speaking of highs, should we introduce a competition

this week?

Yes.

I think we should.

So I think we announced a couple of weeks ago

that we are lucky enough to have a sponsor for the show.

I think we've got a few lined up,

but this one in particular is Sheffield Watches.

We've been fans of Sheffield Watches for,

you know, quite a while now and,

you know, actively bought our own watches

and, you know, been fans of the brand.

But as part of this sponsorship,

we actually get to occasionally give watches away.

That's right.

This would be our first watch giveaway.

So in honor of our first watch giveaway,

what we thought we would do is give folks a task

and the very first person to complete the task

will win the watch.

It will be a watch of their choice

from the Sheffield website, subject to availability.

So we'll make our very best to try and get that watch.

If not, we'll get a second alternative.

And what we thought we would do

is make it quite simple this time round.

And we'll repeat this at the end of the show as well,

just so that if people didn't get it in this first instance,

they'll hear it at the end.

What we'd like you to do is follow Sheffield Watches

on Instagram and follow Sheffield,

sorry, follow Sheffield Watches on Instagram

and follow that car show on Instagram.

Then what we would like you to do,

and there's only two things you need to do here,

the follows and then go to one

of the Sheffield Watches posts

and comment on it and say at that car show

and whatever watch you would like.

That will automatically then appear in our feed

and the very first person who does that

will win themselves a watch.

So just in a recap, follow two accounts,

that car show, Sheffield Watches,

go on to Sheffield Watches,

look at one of the posts and comment

at that car show and what watch you would like.

So it's pretty simple

and it's probably the easiest way you could ever win a watch.

So first listener, first giveaway, good luck to you all.

That's right.

And we should share the Sheffield Instagram

is Sheffield underscore all sport underscore watches.

So go check it out.

Then I think the pink,

I think I saw another post about the pink GT,

which I'm unsurprisingly very excited about.

So, that's a pretty great deal though, right?

I'm just saying,

I mean, you just have to be,

early bird gets the worm

or in this case the Sheffield watch.

So can't wait to see who wins that

and we'll have more to come too.

So if you miss out on this, just stay tuned.

Bikes are gone.

Wait, sorry.

No, thanks for that.

Yeah, yeah.

Because we're at 55 minutes.

I'm afraid.

Kind of on a tear here.

So I'm glad you mentioned that.

We haven't even done Saturday or Sunday.

Yeah.

Let's talk about Saturday

because Saturday at Dan,

I don't know what you were up to.

I was at Concorso Italiana,

which I'm happy to talk about.

But you, Lindsay,

were with our friends at Spikes Car Radio

for a live recording,

which that's right.

I was at the Concor forums,

the Pebble Beach forums,

where they do all different types

of panel discussions.

They had one with all women this year.

They had Land Rover did one.

Scott Brady was on the panel

and they, as they've done the last few years,

the Spikes crew did a live podcast as well

and I got to go,

which was really fun.

And I actually had my own reserved seat,

which is always special.

It's always nice to see your name

in the lights as it were.

And this one was a little more

sort of exciting and interesting

and notable getting started

because Spike and Jerry and Paul

were misdirected by the people managing traffic.

Oh no.

And so the show was slightly delayed.

They were fashionably late.

I don't know if you guys experienced this,

but the sort of traffic wardens this year

were collectively, like across the board,

less informed and no patients this year,

which was shocking on both counts.

Yeah, yeah.

I can only imagine what they put up with.

So cut them a break, but I noticed that as well.

Yeah, it was sort of like even going in,

knowing that like, yeah, it was fascinating.

But so they sent the talent go in the wrong way.

So the show was a little delayed,

but it was especially, we know what goes into a podcast

and watching Spike handle it.

He was such a professional.

He had no time to get set up,

so he had to get set up in front of the audience

and handle it like a pro.

That's the worst, that's the worst.

But it was fun because Jerry actually was there this year.

So he came out and chatted with Spike for a bit

and obviously everybody should go listen to the show.

But he talked a bit about this sickness

that we all share as car enthusiasts

and all of the feelings that we ascribe

to these hunks of metal and rubber.

Sure.

And we're all in it together.

And then Zuckerman and Matt Farah and Johnny came out

and I had seen Matt on my drive in.

He was showing some people.

He had his new Myers-Manx there.

And I looked over and saw the Manx as I was driving by

and then realized Matt was standing right next to it.

Nice.

So that was fun.

But yeah, it was really fun.

They did some listener questions.

They did some giveaways.

They had some of the Morris Solomon's license plate brands

that the couple of you got those, which was really fun.

I think we know a guy though, so.

I know, fingers crossed we can make something work.

But he gave away one of those Spikes Car Radio

Sheffield green watches, which are really great.

And yeah, it was just, you know,

it's always fun to see them.

And then God to say hi to everybody at the end.

And it's just, it's such a,

it's such a unique car week experience, I think.

But they just announced they're going to be doing one

at I think the Audrain this year too.

Fantastic.

Yeah, yeah.

Go see them there if you're there.

Back to your point about doing a show live, it is a lot.

I, you know, one of my past podcast lives,

I did one at an event called Zufengrupa.

You're in Denver and this was up in Boulder

about an hour from my house.

I get up then and realize the power cord to our mixer

was back at home and it was no one's fault,

but mine and my wife was kind of good.

So I mean, I know what that's like.

And then you have to be on

and then you're in the heat and everything else

and you've got to, you've got to make a show.

And of course they're pros, but, you know,

it's a unique challenge and I can't wait to listen.

I'm sure it's amazing.

Right.

Like you would never have known if you weren't in the room.

Yeah.

And it was, it was really impressive to watch.

Like they, you just, you got to roll with it

and they did.

Yeah.

What were you doing that morning, Dan?

I can't talk about it.

Ah, okay.

One of those.

Okay.

All right.

Well, good.

Dan's doing big things.

I love this.

Dan was providing his own private security

for someone who cannot be named.

Yeah.

I was trying to stop people

getting into the Koenigsegg house.

Ah.

Well, you are a life young Swedish boy, aren't you?

Yes.

There we go.

You guys recognize each other, but yeah.

I was supposed to get to the track,

but I didn't get to the track, unfortunately.

And just got way-laid with work and stuff.

So, but yeah, it was an interesting afternoon.

I didn't get to Concorso Italiano,

which I wanted to get to.

Yeah.

Was that any good?

That was fun, you know.

So again, it was at this new, you know,

this new space, I guess they call the paddock

where Radwood had been the night before.

And I was really impressed with the turnout.

I mean, if you want to see oddball Italian shit,

Concorso Italiano is the place for you.

You know the Maserati Mistral, or however you pronounce it?

There were four of them.

I mean, I don't think I'd ever seen one, right?

There were, you know, like barn fine, you know, Dinos, right?

There were, obviously there was news stuff,

but there was amazing stuff.

There was a whole field of Alfa Romeo's, right?

Julia's in GTV6's, and you name it,

they had it, new cars, old cars.

Dan, I know you had an Alfa Romeo for the week

and I want to hear about that in time,

but I mean, there was no stuff like that.

There was old stuff.

There was oddball stuff.

I met, ran into a guy, came up to me and said,

Ryan Barkey, I don't know.

He was a listener, New West from Instagram,

and he won the Balboni Award, Ethan,

shout out to Ethan, won the big award of the show,

presented by Balboni himself,

who then went on to sign Ethan's car.

So Ethan had a Lamborghini.

Yeah, he had a Diablo.

I think an early Diablo black car,

much like our buddy, Brian's.

So they got to meet, it was a really fun event.

I was there, again, with Colin and Brian,

and shout out Dino and some of our other gang

who was there.

Most of your name.

Well, if your name is Dino, you better,

sure as hell, better show up to the concourse

of Italiano, but I think one of the most fascinating

things about the show was the woman

who was showing a car, a modern Ferrari, on the lawn,

while also simultaneously selling exotic cats

and possibly crypto.

So that was fun.

And did you just take one of each?

You're like, I'll take a cat.

I couldn't afford either.

That's the problem.

So I think the cats started at 10 or 12,

and I'm not sure where the crypto started,

or where the crypto began, but it was actually

a very fun event, very cool.

I wasn't sure what to expect,

and I was pretty impressed with some of the stuff

that was there.

Again, you only scratch the surface.

You start talking to people, but it was really a fun event.

And I also then got to the track, finally, that day.

Nice.

Lindsay, you and I, in a former podcast life,

got to actually commentate races at last year's Rolex

Historicz.

Do you recall the race that you called?

It was, I think, the.

It was the Ken Miles Trophy class.

Right, right.

And I got to do the F1 cars of the 70s and 80s,

which I know nothing about.

That's right.

But we somehow survived, and it's a feather in our caps.

But we didn't get to do that this year, either one of us.

No, but I was thinking about it a lot.

That was one of the most amazing memories.

There are literally like 1,000 speakers

projecting the voice, plus Goodwood Network and all that.

So I'm glad I didn't know all that at the time.

Well, that was why I didn't go to the live spikes

last year was because I was busy commentating the races.

Exactly.

So, you know, but, but because we weren't doing that this year,

I got to properly spectate and I got to make it up

to the, the infamous corkscrew, which I don't care what anyone

says, no photographs, no video, no video games,

really expresses what a, what a, I guess,

what do you call a feature that is?

Remarkable experience.

You talk about things that would never be built like that now,

but you're so glad they exist.

And that was one of them because it's this, the elevation,

not game, what's the opposite?

Change.

Change is, is, is shocking.

It's just, it's, and it's blind.

And I just, I had no real appreciation

for what that thing was like until I saw it

with my own two eyes.

And I'm so glad I did.

It's such a great track.

You know, it's so, so well run.

You know, everyone there was friendly.

It was, you know, in racing tracks,

that's a whole different scene, right?

But that's, that's really how car week began,

that in, in Pebble, right?

It was that in Pebble.

We were, so my family has been going for a long time.

The first year that we went was 1997.

And my dad commented at the beginning of the week

this year, he was marveling at our first time going up.

And he said, we got our hotel room

and our tickets the week before.

That would never happen.

And we were saying the same thing.

It was the vintage races and Pebble.

It was not, it was not car week.

Like to see the evolution of what it has become

is really fascinating.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, in the very best way,

I'm sure the people that live there

can't wait for it to be done,

but I can also imagine the, you know,

the monies that are brought in and, you know.

Right.

So I'm sure it's a, you know,

it's a give take kind of thing,

like a lot of relationships.

But, you know, it's the racing is great.

And, you know, it's just,

it's a great place to watch a race

because there's so many vantage points.

You don't have to walk quite as far

as some tracks, right, in my experience.

But then I think one of the highlights

is walking the paddock, right?

And seeing these amazing cars,

not only that are being driven on the track,

but also that are driven to the track.

And point of example,

as we saw this amazing red 250 GTO rolling up,

it was our old friend Chip Connor behind the wheel.

It took the time to say hello

and, you know, share with us a little bit.

And that's the magic of car week.

That's the magic of going to the track, right?

It's just you never know who you're gonna see,

what you're gonna run into, the cars.

Famous cars, you've only seen in books

and there they are, right?

Being started up, you can smell in here

and it's just, it's a-

Well, I'm being raced.

I mean, I think that's the crazy thing.

Like, you know, you said like the class

that I got to commentate last year,

Jim Farley was one of the drivers,

like in a Cobra.

I mean, it's just, it's like,

it's the wildest confluence of your heroes

and these hero cars and, you know,

famous people and people that are car-famous

and just regular-famous, it's wild.

Zach, how about flashbacks?

The race that I commented.

Sorry, Dan, go ahead.

You just kind of gave me a flashback.

Yeah.

At the quail, I met Jim Farley's son.

Oh, you did?

Oh, nice.

I think he looked like 14 or 15.

Oh, amazing.

Yeah, I don't think he used to, yeah.

Just amazing.

Just random, sorry.

No, they have the nicest family.

That's also Wisconsin.

Do you see the theme here?

We're fencing a theme, yeah.

That's right, that's right.

Well, that night, just to move things along here

a little bit was the also infamous Zinger party.

Were you all there?

Were we all there?

I can't remember.

Okay, Dan wasn't there.

Lindsay, you and I were there.

And we actually got the catch up.

I know.

How many people there?

It was really, really cool.

And it was amazing the people like Matt.

And Matt Farah had actually MCed.

They shared a documentary of what they've done

with the car.

And they did a tour of tracks in California

setting records at the various tracks

and they made a documentary film.

So it reminded me of going to see Edith

with you guys last year.

So apparently a theme for me for car week

is I get to go see a documentary every year.

So I'm not sure what's gonna be next year.

It was really cool.

And they even took the car

through the drive through it in and out.

Oh, I saw it.

That was so epic.

Well, and I always joke, you know, like

when people have these insane cars

and they go, okay, but you'd never drive it.

Like I always joke that if you're gonna get

something like that, you have to just drive it

as much as you can.

Take it to the market for eggs, whatever.

So that's my new, like would you take it

through the drive through it in and out?

Has your GT4 been through the drive through, Lindsay?

Not yet because it hasn't been near and in and out.

Squad goals, squad goals.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, Zinger famously, and we talked about this

the last time we talked about car week,

had this area 21, the car is called the 21,

something or other.

By the way, it's 2100 horsepower, right?

Which is, you know, that'll get you a record or two.

But last year they had this amazing sort of area 51

or what's it?

Area 51.

Kind of themed alien UFOs, you know.

And, you know, lots of silver, you know,

lame body suits and gyrating, you know, young people.

And it was a blast.

Didn't have that this year,

but they did bring the Shake Shack burgers and fries

again at the end of this, which was wildly appreciated.

Legendary.

Yeah, so good.

So they did gold this year, some of the women.

Yes, yes, but it was not quite the over-the-top spectacle.

I think they really focused on the achievements of the car

and all that and it was cool.

And again, I think as far as like value for dollar,

for like people that I bumped into

that I met was introduced to for the first time

or I met before, that may have been the party.

I think it was.

I think we picked up a few potential guests along the way.

Got a couple of commitments.

Yeah, and our friend Mark from Horace Strapps was there.

Yes.

Shaheen from Rivian was there.

Obviously Matt Farah.

Retromobile.

But I got to do, yes, that's right.

We got to see Ramon and Jeff off from Retromobile.

Yeah, they say they're coming on.

So we'll see.

I know.

Look forward to it.

Had that liquid courage

and I was asking people left and right.

So it's moving on, moving on.

So the next day was a Sunday.

Not a small day in the car week calendar.

So a few days start.

Dawn patrol.

Hmm.

Dan, were you there for that?

I wasn't.

I caught up with Lindsay shortly afterwards.

Didn't get a hat, but the interesting thing

this year with the hats was that they have metal tags

and I think they're numbered, aren't they, Lindsay?

They are, yep.

So now you not only have to get a hat,

but you have to get a good number, right?

Like it's the Colorado Grand or the Emilia, right?

Right, yeah, Seinfeld would probably not be pleased.

I don't know what numbers I got.

22 or nothing for me, but.

Right, car numerology.

No, yeah, they have like authenticity.

They're amazing.

Amazing.

And that's, I think because they're our friends

at Hagerty, right?

The hands is.

Yes.

Hagerty are the ones that distribute the hats.

And yeah, so we got there, sorry.

And the donuts.

And the donuts and the coffee, that's right.

Well, I slept in, unfortunately.

What I miss.

So it was beautiful and it was clear,

which is really unusual.

It was like the first year that it was clear

at Don Patrol in a long time.

The weather the whole week was unusual

because we had rain at the Zinger party,

like actual rain the night before,

but then it was clear, you know,

there were stars in the sky on the way

into Don Patrol, which was really cool.

And I hadn't done it before and my dad and I went,

so we got there just after 530.

And what's interesting is you walk in,

you kind of, you know, wind around the lodge

on the road down and we came around a corner

and the crowd was so big that we gasped

because there were so many people there,

which is quite a feat.

And it tells you the draw of the hats

that that many people have gotten up

and gotten there by 530 in the morning.

And what was interesting is how many people

cleared out once the hats were distributed too.

Look, the crowd really thins out,

but we were able to get.

Yeah, I mean, we were able to get kind of right up

to the chain where the cars were coming through.

And, you know, we mentioned the Dicies,

John and Lewis met us and we hung out

for most of the parade, you know,

as the cars were moved onto the lawn.

But yeah, I mean, you get up close and personal

with those cars and to see them driving,

you know, it's another, like the tour,

the Tour de Pebble, where you just,

it's amazing to see them driven.

And it was really cool because

the Land Rovers went through.

My friend Lynn Woodward was driving one of them.

So I got to say hi to her.

And yeah, it's definitely worth the early morning, for sure.

So one of the things that struck me

during the tour with those same cars was,

now maybe not the Land Rovers, not the sports cars,

but some of those like brass era car,

some of those Pierce arrows and Duesenbergs

and those, you know, that type of,

you know, the real, you know, the bespoke,

the, you know, the coach built cars, right?

They run silently.

It's amazing.

Like it's just-

Yeah, you would expect much more noise.

Yeah, it's a completely different kind of flex, you know.

Right.

That's some,

you know, some, what's the book?

I mean, the Greek Gatsby, right?

I mean, that's, you know, that's,

these are the cars these folks were driven.

That was the flex, right?

Now it's, you know,

crackles and pops on your BMW or whatever.

But back in the day, I mean,

that's how cool they were, right?

And I just was so impressed with that.

Well, and the, to getting to see, you know,

that's what struck me during the tour

and then getting to see them again at Dawn Patrol is,

most people never see one of those cars on the road.

Right, that's it, that's it.

And to get to see that collection of them all at once,

and then some of them I saw driving twice,

getting to do the tour at Dawn Patrol.

And you really, one thing about the tour

is that people camp out all along the route,

along Highway One.

And then at the turnout,

because it's you go out and back the same road.

And so people know where the cars turn around.

So they go up there and wait to see them turn.

And if you've ever been to, you know,

if people have been to good vibes,

like on a Thanksgiving weekend,

or like a big day at Good Vibes,

it was almost double that it felt like

at the turnout for the tour.

Because people are just so excited.

And it's like, you think about how lucky we are

to see these cars moving.

It's amazing.

Yeah, it really is.

Dan, when did you enter into the picture, I guess,

that morning?

I think it was reasonable, like 7.30.

Okay.

So got in, managed to con someone

into giving us a golf cart lift in.

The best.

Which is always a good secret.

Yeah, it can be a lot.

You just walk past all the,

past all the Gen Pop,

and like, you know, like you're the king,

it's the best.

The way to do it.

Yeah.

So I got to see quite a few of the cars,

got to see the Diestes or Lindsey.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then the sun came out,

and it was a beautiful day.

It was gorgeous.

Yeah.

It was warm when the sun came out,

but it wasn't too warm.

It was just kind of a perfect day.

It was, it was absolutely good.

I mean, that setting is incomparable, right?

Yeah.

It's just, if you've never been there against,

it's something that's not really captured,

you know, in photographs.

It's just, it's a magical location.

Because there's something in the air there too,

like really the whole peninsula, you know.

It smells like money, right?

That's what's hanging in the air.

It's that fragrance that Dan whipped up.

Yeah.

But it is, you're right.

Ode to currency.

Rich people don't sweat.

So what were some of your favorites from the lawn, guys?

Oh, man.

I like the oddball stuff, you know,

like the car that, if you want to call it that,

like the car that ended up winning,

like the whole thing was amazing.

What was the car with the cow head or the bull?

Oh my gosh.

The horns that spanned,

I think it was a Cadillac or something, right?

It was a 48 Chrysler Town and Country.

Chrysler Town and Country, that's the,

and I didn't even get to take the time

to investigate what that was or the story there,

but I'm sure it's got a great one.

There was an amazing dark green Ferrari,

and I don't even know, like, you know, what it was.

It only just made it on the lawn.

Which cars?

The green Ferrari.

Oh, okay.

So I was in the paddock

and they were still trying to get it started,

like when we parked up.

Right.

Because the car has to-

It was like 738, oh.

Really? Okay.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So they were panicking about not getting on the lawn.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Can you imagine getting that close

to get it there?

Crazy.

What about you guys?

I caught your eye.

Because I mean, these cars really are the best of the best.

I mean, these are the best,

most special cars in the world.

They won't make these cars again,

or anything like them, right?

The tech, the craftsmanship,

it just, they can't be recreated, right?

I mean, there were so many.

I think there was,

did you guys see the class of Moretti's,

which I've never seen before?

Yeah, those are neat.

Teeny, tiny, two door.

I mean, they look like toys,

and they, several of them were two tone,

like little jewel,

they look like living matchbox cars.

So those were really fun.

There was a 68 Serenissima GT Ghia,

which I've never seen anything like that.

Just so many, I mean,

there was a gorgeous Aston Martin DB2 Coupe,

and growing up in the family that I did,

the Cobra class was near and dear to our hearts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was really fun.

And the, there's a cobra,

it's called the Essex Wire Cobra.

And I think it's the winningest cobra,

like of all the cobras that exist.

And we got to meet the owner,

but years ago,

Tori actually found a box of memorabilia

in a small antique store in Pennsylvania and bought it.

And then when he got into it, it had,

so the driver of this Essex Wire Cobra was Ed Lother.

And it was one of Ed Lother's racing suits and helmets.

And there were logbooks for another car,

but so he ended up reuniting the memorabilia

with the different cars.

I'm just kidding.

So some of the stuff went to this Essex Wire car.

That's special.

Yeah. And he'd been telling me the story.

And then we walked on to the lawn

and I'm like, I was just hearing about this.

Yeah, that is, that's incredible.

I'm going to the wrong antique stores, apparently.

Right. I mean, that's, you know,

it's like you wish rescue dogs could talk.

I'm like, I wish this racing suit could talk.

Like, how did you end up in a tiny town in Pennsylvania

without the car?

That's incredible.

Yeah. I don't know.

So those are my favorites.

Anything catch your eye?

It was good to see Bruce Meyer with his cobra.

Yes.

Can I be there?

Because I ran into Bruce a couple of times

and he was so gracious.

I think he remembered who I was.

I mean, he's just such a, he's such a champ.

What a cool guy.

He was just, what a great guy.

So thank you, Bruce.

Yeah.

And his cobra is gorgeous.

Yes. Oh my God. Yes.

Yeah. It was a battle of the Bruce's, wasn't it?

Because he had the first one

and then Canapa had the last one.

Right.

So they were good friends and competing against each other

and Bruce won his glass.

So congratulations to Bruce.

Yeah. It's fun to see the book ended production

on display there.

Really cool.

That was neat.

Also the people watching was amazing.

Like it was of the quail, but in a different way.

There's some people in costume.

Some people very dressed up.

There's some people that are dressed

to sort of align with the vehicle that they're showing,

which is cool.

Right.

I think it's safe to say that the pebble commands

a certain, a level of attire, right?

You know, I mean, even if it's warm out,

us guys will suffer through with the jacket on

because it's pebble.

Right.

Well, it's sort of, yeah.

I think it's sort of a mark of respect.

Yeah.

You know, that you dress up for that.

I think, did you guys see the Hispano Suiza to lipwood?

Oh, did we lose Dan?

Yeah, we're going to keep talking there

because they don't have time to edit this one today.

Dan, hopefully you'll rejoin us.

But well, that was the car that took.

I think Dan's ghosted us.

That was like, is that enough for you?

He's like, and I'm done.

Yeah.

Well, let's carry through.

So that was the car that won it all.

And I don't know what the story,

but it was almost like built like a barrel.

It was this wooden thing that kind of had a,

but in like a very handsome barrel, you know?

I mean, it was stunning.

Do you know why the car was made of wood?

I don't.

And not only was it made of wood,

like for people that haven't seen pictures,

it was covered with brass, you know, rivets

or nail heads or whatever it was.

Sure, yeah.

But even the name,

I mean, it was called a tulip wood torpedo.

Maybe that's why it was shaped the way it was.

I'm sure there was a reason for it.

It was epic.

It was amazing, but I, you know,

I don't quite know the story there.

1924 though.

I mean, that's amazing.

And we got to see it driving.

I can't imagine, it's a lightweight thing, you know?

There's got to be a reason.

If only we had our guest here

in his chat GPT friend.

I think we're probably getting into the end of this.

So, I mean, the week kind of, there he is.

We're in.

The week kind of ends with-

Hey, what's your what happened there?

It's okay, we're glad to have you back.

We just decided we're going to move forward

because I don't have time to edit this one tonight, Dan.

So, favorite cars, you know,

of course then just the experience that Pebble is.

And, you know, one of the, you know,

one of the moves at Pebble, of course,

is to have access to at least one hospitality suite.

I was able to visit a couple.

Thank you, Infinity made some new friends at Infinity,

including their director of design.

So thank you for spending time with me.

And then I think the ultimate flex

is to eventually make your way up to the deck

at the Mercedes-Benz suite

and lord over all those beneath you.

And that's how my day ended.

I didn't get to do that last year.

That was pretty cool.

Yes, they have the best food.

Yes, they have the most comfortable chairs.

Yes, they have the best air conditioning.

And yes, you see the most interesting people up there.

So that was-

Well, and I think one of the reasons too is like,

that is the center suite at the lodge.

So if you are there when they announce the winner,

there's nothing quite like it because,

I mean, people are crammed in because it's the best view

because you get to see the platform

and then you can walk down onto the platform

where the winning car is.

Yeah, so cool.

That said, the lodge also shares space

with Ferrari and Porsche,

neither one of which extended invitation my way.

I own a Porsche, so maybe next year Porsche,

you'll hook the three of us up.

That said, the big bad lounge to be in is sweet,

is Mercedes-Benz, so thank you.

Yeah.

What about you two?

How'd you end your day?

My day ended a little bit earlier

because I had to head back to Southern California.

So it was dawn patrol, run around the lawn

and then get out of town, unfortunately.

Yeah, yeah.

And Dan, you had a drive.

I had security join me for sushi at the end of the evening.

How was your sushi?

We had sushi along the way and it was a little underwhelmed.

Dude, dude.

I'm talking about the same dinner you were at.

Oh, God.

All right, maybe I will have to edit this out.

Sorry, I thought you were with your other crew.

Got to see.

No, I didn't mean it.

Private security.

Yeah.

I'm tired.

I am so tired.

I think you keep it in.

So we had $700, a very, very average sushi.

Whoa.

There was seven or eight of us, right?

Yeah, that's true.

That's, yeah, we were there.

I was there.

It was a thing that happened.

Well, apparently I was there, but I don't know what happened.

Allegedly.

I mean, we're not even mentioning half the things

that we did or places we ate or people we saw.

That's, and that's the challenge.

I mean, we'd be here for eight hours, truly.

Like, which is an amazing problem to have.

That's car week is just, there's so much.

That's why it takes like a month to process it

when you get home because, you know,

you wake up the next day and you just go,

what did I even do?

And then you do it again.

God.

Right, I think that's the show, isn't it, guys?

I think it is.

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