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Ford Mustang
The Mustang is a well-known sports car from Ford that is popular for its speed and style. It has been around for many years and has different versions.
Car
Tesla Model Ys
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV that is similar to the Model 3 but offers more room for passengers and cargo, making it a good choice for families.
Car
Tesla Model 3
The Tesla Model 3 is a popular electric car known for being more affordable than other Tesla models. It has good performance and a long driving range on a single charge.
Car
BMW E46S
The BMW 3 Series is a type of luxury car that is fun to drive and comfortable to ride in. It's popular because it combines good looks with a sporty feel, making it a favorite among many car enthusiasts.
Term
MAF sensor
A MAF sensor is a part that checks how much air is going into the engine. This helps the car know how much fuel to use for the best performance.
Term
OBD2
OBD2 is a system in cars that helps check if everything is working properly. It can tell you if there's a problem with the engine or other parts.
Term
neutral gear
Neutral gear is when the car's engine is not connected to the wheels, so the car can roll without using power from the engine. It's used when you want the car to move without driving it.
Part
IAC valve
The IAC valve helps control how much air goes into the engine when the car is not moving. This is important for keeping the engine running smoothly when it's idling.
Term
intake
The intake is a part of the engine that brings air in so it can mix with fuel and create power. It's important for how well the engine runs.
Term
electric pickup trucks
Electric pickup trucks are trucks that run on electricity instead of gasoline. They are becoming more popular but are still facing some issues in the market.
Company
Rivian
Rivian is a newer car company that makes electric trucks and SUVs. They're trying to become popular in the electric vehicle market.
Term
mass adoption
Mass adoption means that a lot of people start using something. For electric cars, it means many people are buying them.
Car
Ford Lightning
The Ford Lightning is an electric truck made by Ford, which is designed to be powerful and environmentally friendly.
Car
Tesla Cybertrucks
The Tesla Cybertruck is a new electric truck that looks very different from regular trucks because of its sharp angles and shiny metal body. It's talked about a lot because it's trying to change how we think about trucks and is also facing some issues with recalls.
Car
Rivian R1T
The Rivian R1T is a new electric truck that can drive off-road and has a lot of power. It's designed for people who like outdoor adventures.
Term
$7,500 rebate
The $7,500 rebate is a discount you can get when you buy an electric car, which helps lower the price you pay.
Term
PowerBoost
PowerBoost is a special feature in some Ford trucks that combines a gas engine with an electric motor. This helps the truck be more powerful and efficient, making it great for work.
Term
electric trucks
Electric trucks are trucks that run on electricity instead of gasoline or diesel. They are quieter and can save money on fuel, making them a good choice for city driving.
Term
level two charging
Level two charging is a way to charge electric cars faster than regular home outlets. It uses a special outlet that gives more power, so you can charge your car overnight.
Term
depreciation
Depreciation is how much less something is worth over time. For cars, it means they lose value as they get older and used, which can affect how much you can claim on taxes if you use the car for business.
Car
Chevrolet C8
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast sports car that many people love for its speed and style. It's often compared to other cars to see which one is better for driving fun.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a super-fast version of a regular BMW sedan that feels really sporty when you drive it. Some people have mixed feelings about the latest models, saying they aren't as good as expected.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people recognize because of its unique shape. It's loved for being really fast and fun to drive, especially the newest versions.
Car
BMW M2Cs
The BMW M2 is a small sports car that's really fun to drive and feels very responsive. It's popular among car enthusiasts who want a sporty experience in a compact package.
Car
Aston Martin Valhalla
The Aston Martin Valhalla is a super-fast car that uses both a traditional engine and electric power. It's built for speed and is very advanced in terms of technology.
Term
naturally aspirated
A naturally aspirated engine gets its air from the atmosphere without any extra help from turbochargers or superchargers. This can make the engine feel more responsive and connected to the driver.
Term
supercharger
A supercharger helps an engine get more air, which means it can burn more fuel and produce more power. It's connected directly to the engine, so it gives power right away.
Term
turbo S
The Turbo S is a powerful version of the Porsche 911 that uses a turbocharged engine to deliver more speed and performance. It's designed for those who want a thrilling driving experience.
Term
V8 engine
A V8 engine is a powerful type of engine that has eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. It's known for producing a lot of power and is often found in sports cars and trucks.
Term
front engine rear-wheel drive
Front engine rear-wheel drive means the car's engine is at the front and it sends power to the back wheels. This setup is often found in sports cars and helps with handling and driving performance.
Car
Ferrari 360 Modena
The Ferrari 360 Modena is a fast sports car made by Ferrari. It has a powerful engine and is designed to be very light, making it fun to drive.
Car
Lucid Air
The Lucid Air is a fancy electric car that can go really far on a single charge. It's talked about because it's trying to be one of the best luxury electric cars available.
Car
Toyota Land Cruiser
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a big, tough SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. People like it because it's built to last and can go anywhere.
Car
Ford Mustang GTD
The Ford Mustang GTD is a super-fast version of the classic Mustang that focuses on performance. It's talked about because it's built for speed and driving excitement.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a cool sports car that many people think of when they imagine fast cars. It's known for its powerful engine and stylish look, making it a favorite among car lovers.
Car
Delorean DMC-12
The DeLorean DMC-12 is a special car that has doors that open up like wings. It's famous because it was in the 'Back to the Future' movies and is loved by many for its unique look.
Car
Porsche 959
The Porsche 959 is a really special sports car from the 80s that was super advanced for its time. It's talked about because it helped change what supercars could be and is now a collector's favorite.
Car
Lotus Elise
The Lotus Elise is a small, super-light sports car that's really fun to drive. It's designed to be quick and nimble, so it feels great on the road.
Car
BMW E34
The BMW 5 Series is a nice luxury car that's comfortable and fun to drive. It's popular because it has a good mix of performance and technology for everyday use.
Car
Renault 4
The Renault 4 CV is a small, old car from the 40s and 50s that many people find cute. It's talked about because it's a classic and has a lot of character.
Car
Porsche 918 Spyder
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a super-fast car that uses both gas and electricity to go really fast. It's talked about a lot because it's one of the best hybrid sports cars out there.
Car
Mitsubishi Delica
The Mitsubishi Delica is a roomy van that can go off-road and is great for adventures. People like it because it's spacious and can handle rough terrain.
Car
Ford Windstar
The Ford Windstar is a big family van that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's popular for families because it's spacious and comfortable for road trips.
Car
Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV that people love for going off-road and exploring. It's popular again because it brings back memories of the old Bronco while adding new technology.
Car
Audi A6
The Audi A6 is a nice luxury car that looks great and has a lot of cool technology inside. It's popular because it's comfortable to drive and feels fancy.
Car
Honda S2000
Car
BMW M3
Car
BMW F20
The BMW 1 Series is a smaller luxury car that's fun to drive and easy to handle. It's a good choice for people who want a nice car without it being too big.
Term
2.7 stoker crank
A 2.7 stoker crank is a special part you can add to an engine to make it bigger and more powerful. It helps the engine run better by allowing it to use more fuel and air.
Concept
sleeper car
A sleeper car is a car that looks normal but is actually very fast and powerful. People might not expect it to perform well because it doesn't look like a sports car.
Car
Jaguar Xjs
The Jaguar XJ-S is a stylish luxury car that was made for a long time and is loved for its good looks and performance. It's talked about because it's a classic Jaguar that many people admire.
Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
The Aston Martin Vanquish is a really fancy sports car that looks beautiful and goes super fast. It's talked about because it's a symbol of luxury and high performance.
Car
Acura NSX
The Acura NSX is a fancy sports car that uses both gas and electricity to go fast. It's special because it looks great and drives really well, making it a unique choice among supercars.
Car
Mazda Rx7
Car
Nissan 300 ZX
The Nissan 300 ZX is a cool sports car from the late 80s and 90s that many people remember for its speed and unique look. It's popular among fans of Japanese cars.
Car
Toyota Supra
Car
Honda Civic
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it's reliable and saves gas. It's a great option for anyone looking for a practical and affordable vehicle.
Car
Toyota GR Corolla
The Toyota GR Corolla is a sportier version of the regular Corolla that people love for its fun driving experience. It's made to be quick and exciting on the road.
Car
Lamborghini Urus
The Lamborghini Urus is a fancy SUV that looks really cool and drives super fast. It's popular because it combines the space of an SUV with the excitement of a sports car.
Car
Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that drives like a sports car but has the space of an SUV. It's popular because it offers both luxury and the ability to carry more people or stuff.
Car
Ford F150
The Ford F-150 is a very popular truck that many people use for work and everyday driving. It's known for being tough and able to carry a lot of stuff.
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Those are cheap but far too expensive. Yes, you know, it's valuable but inexpensive, right? Yes, but too expensive
They should be too sense. They should be two cents instead. They're like 50 cents each. Yeah, that's like
That's almost as egregious as the foemies that go over the go-pros
Oh, yeah, the like those six dollars. There's those should be 50 cents. Yeah, it's for those. Hi, everybody
You don't really grinds my gears, dude
I told you the plastic push pins that hold my parts of my interior in our 495 each
So this this is really like, you know, you want to talk about a good legal scam
And when I say scam, I don't mean like actually like
doing crimes, but like
When you like it's like AI proof
You know what I mean? Like when you find like a little thing that people fucking need
you know and
Maybe it's ideally they use it for business some kind of business
But like weird like we're just this thing like we use these foamy covers for the go-pros and they're just foam like the shittiest
Foam possible basically
And it covers the go-pros, but it's a pretty good when we get the exhaust audio clip
It's a wind stop. It's a wind stop
People used to glue little cat fur not little but like they would glue that stuff to the top of their microphone
Yeah, and then they started selling ones that were pre-made with glue and now you just wrap the whole thing in foam
It's it's like purpose-built for this. Yeah, and up to about 80 miles an hour pretty good
Yeah, beyond that not much hope for you. Yeah, but but anyway, they think they must cost
Fractions of a penny to make and they cost multiple dollars to buy
Mm-hmm, and they don't weigh anything you can crush 20 of them into a fucking the size of a racquet ball
You know yeah shipping them costs nothing making them cost nothing shipping them costs nothing
You know but like but if you need them, I mean there's like R&D
You know they had to cover that but they cover that a long yes the R&D of like someone had to 3d
We've you've been using the same ones as GoPro 11. That's very true. Yeah, they're kind of the same
Shape yeah, that's a good point. Yeah
And look my wife is now in the fucking cell phone cover business. So like I know the economics of this kind of shit
Anyway, hi
Another podcast if you're with us two days in a row live God bless you love it
I have a little more brainpower today because I managed a fabulous sleep strategy
I'm very impressed that you slept the whole flight basically and then
Didn't and then we're able to fall asleep on time. I slept half the flight
But when I got home, I went for like a mile and a half walk with Hannah then I did cardio 45 minutes
Then we went out to dinner and I had an espresso at like three o'clock
and
Like by nine or so I was pretty much like tripping
Yeah, and I went laid down at 9 30 and I was fucking out until
550 a.m. So yeah, pretty good. Pretty good pretty fucking smooth
Out and back. Yeah, you know if I was in Spain for a couple days longer five days instead of three
Because the one day I was on the ground there the driving day. I was cracked out. Yeah, you're just cranking coffee
Dude we're ripping espressos. I was when I left to go do the drive in the morning like we left the hotel
still dark and and
I was like loopy real loopy didn't sleep great that night and
Drenaline kicks in also. I'm kind of see I'm happy
I'm going to South Korea next week for Hyundai some Hyundai stuff and I'm glad it's a longer trip because I can kind of acclimate
Yeah, but also that means the return is gonna be way worse. Yeah, yeah
But here we is we got I got things to fucking talk about
The we did show and tell yesterday and this this cup holder replacement thing
I put it in the car
It's perfect fit perfect fit for the cup for the Porsche cup
The the texture of the plastic is not you can see there's a slight texture difference
From one part to the other but like honestly like doesn't really bother me if you're it's it's not in the cup holder
Or the new thing where it mounts. Does it like it like locks in?
Because they took out like a change tray, right? Yeah. Yeah, and does it lock in pretty well? Yeah, it's always in there
Yeah, that's not it's not coming out. Yeah, it's like an install
So the cup holder itself is not coming out
And if if the cup is in it as you if you look on my Instagram if the cups in the thing
Obviously, it's like tall and you have to sort of like backhand shift just like a 992 or actually like a last-gen Mustang
And that's annoying, but you do have the you still got the two on the dash
You shift like you're reaching into a bag of chips like at a party, you know, like oh, yeah, I'll take a few yeah
But if the cup is not in there
It doesn't get in the way at all and in fact is a much bigger storage tray and will fit my phone standing up in there as well
Which is nice. That's very handy. And then also I've got the installed the built-by-basal
Wood ash wood and skateboard deck shift knob, which is fucking cool feels really nice in my hands. Yeah
The boot see the boot is like looks like it's a little too much material now
Uh-huh the the old knob the stock knob goes over
The boot. Oh, you know what I mean like it goes over the top. Okay at there
So you so the material goes like up inside. Oh, yes. Yes. Where is this one? It's a it's a it's a shaft
And it cups the shit cups the shaft you got and you need to trim the so I got to go to
Our strata and they're gonna like just like stitch it up real nice
So it's not like super sloppy. It's just a little baggy a little baggy. That's cool a little baggy right now
I bet the wood knob feels good over the better shot of that. Mm-hmm
So it was like I don't know 150 bucks. Maybe it's obviously like 3d printed
And I think it's advertised as being 3d printed, but it feels like really nice quality
Yeah, as you can see the texture is not exactly the same, but it's close enough really close
It's really close and it the shape and like look up the 992 cup holder like it looks exactly like that
Like it looks pretty factory. I wonder if it's actually that the cup holder plastic is fresher
And it's because yours looks slightly grayer. Yeah, so maybe it will like catch up in the sun ends have worn it down
Well, no, it's sun exposure. Yeah, you know, I don't know
Um, no, I think the the Porsche the Porsche one is a little is a little softer finish. Okay, but it's it's totally cool
I'm very stoked on that product and the shift knob feels really really nice
I had with the with the all-kantara shift knob
That's no good. Yeah, that's no good. It'll just smooth and grease up. Yeah
And I'm and I'm just constantly conscious of like, oh my hand. Is it a little sweaty like uh, hold up the air
Like I don't want my sweaty hand on the now who gives a shit. Yeah. Is the cup sitting slightly tilted backwards
No, it's this the photo the angle of the photo. Okay. No the cup is not is not backwards. It's actually no
Um, it the the opening of the thing tilts slightly backwards, but the cup stands vertical
Okay, like the top of the of the deal is like in in more in line with the angle of the dash
But I think the other photo shows it like a little better
There's like one oops. Oh
I have gone too far. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. The photo looked
Yeah, it's and it is a little misleading because the part the part that's closest is like the sippy part, which like is low
Anyone gotcha. It's cool. That's cool. It's cool. I wouldn't put like an an uncovered glass
I wouldn't do that with anything. Yeah, uh, so that's fun. Um, dude I okay
Trigger warning
I read some of the tesla earnings call
This is
One of the craziest fucking quotes I've heard out of elan musk since he left quote left the government, right?
So the mission is going beyond sustainable energy to say sustainable abundance is the mission
Where we believe with optimists and self-driving that you can actually create a world where there's no poverty
Where everyone has access to the finest medical care?
Optimists will be an incredible surgeon for example and imagine if everyone had access to an incredible surgeon
tesla was down 37 percent and he went on a fucking phone call
to the hail mary of my robots that were
Humans in suits a year ago are going to be doing surgery and their head of robotics left two months ago to go work for meta
I mean there's more people that work there obviously, but uh, that's fucking crazy
Meanwhile, they recalled 13,000 model threes and model y's over a battery defect and 63,000 cyber trucks
What is so amazing about that and you know, uh
Bernie sander's thought point warning is he's like the product i'm going to make and sell can solve poverty
And you're like or you could just well donate enough money
Well, that's the thing is he probably himself could solve a lot of poverty right like a huge amount of
He did this at the same time he asked for a trillion dollars
Like one side of the mouth is we're gonna have a world with no poverty, but i'm gonna need a trillion dollars
That's his comp. Yeah, that's the comp package he's negotiating for which is like and if
All this like a lot of what this guy does
Is cut programs that help people get out of pot like there's dough shit
Us aid like all these programs that like we're supposed to help people get it
I'm not even talking about donating his full on own money, which he wouldn't he could fuck it do 50 mil
50 million sorry. I'm sorry. I said million because that's like a more normal thing he could do 50 billion and
Not notice just go out his day and bump a rail academy and fucking have a good night, you know
um
Oh, and they they reintroduced uh the mad max mode
To the mad max mode fsd had a fucking mad max mode that made the car drive like a dick
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Oh, so these mirrors real model three drivers dude. Yeah, and like and like they uh, there was like a real problem
Because like when they had it before like the cars were breaking all these fucking laws and shit
They were rolling through the kid. They were doing the california roll
which like
The human does a california roll like listen, but you can't
Sell a product that just rolls through stop signs. Yeah, you can't do that like because then we know that if it hits someone
They're gonna say the human did it. Yeah mad max. Yeah mad max mode mad. That's fucking crazy
I wonder how do you think who owns mad max property like a Warner Brothers? Do you think they licensed that?
They're they think they're on the phone and oh by the way, they're yeah, they've violated their trademark, right? Yeah
They probably fucking would
That's just all of it's just terrible. Yeah
Trillionaire they're gonna there this guy this guy that fucking asshole
Should get to be a trillionaire eat a dick. I mean
Fucking garbage world. No. Yeah, nobody should well. Yeah. That's just too much
Unnecessary. Have we even someone even done, you know, you see I've seen the drawing over and over of like a pile of money
That's like a hundred thousand and a million ten million
And you when it gets to Billy has anyone done one for a trillion yet. I've seen them for
Well, there was a great graphic that was done for a video about like what derivative derivatives are
And so they did one of like here's how much money is in every bank account
Here's the federal reserve whatever and it was like here if you stack cash
To represent all of the derivatives trading in the world and it was like
It was like putting the burst califa next to a nice like a suburban neighborhood for the other piles of cash
It was totally insane. Um, what does yeah
Oh, man, there's look like yeah, let's just keep doing this. This is a good idea
Oh, there are a trillion a trillion dollars visualized off of
Yeah, let's go to the reddit one that might have been made by a human and not AI
Let's see. Okay. The a million is like a shoebox size pile
Uh, oh, there we go. Double. What does this say double stacked palettes? Whoa. Okay
Okay, so a million is like a shoebox
Uh, a hundred million is is one palette
Like those big water bottle palettes I get yeah like what you see going into home, uh, Costco or something
Yeah, and it's like uh four by four by four. Yeah, four feet square
A billion looks like it's 10 of those 10 of those giant palettes one two three
Yeah, 10 of those next to each other and then a trillion is basically
The square footage of like a big grocery store. Yeah
Like yeah with a human for scale
It's almost like a grocery store, but all the palettes are double stacked
So it's two. It's like a Costco. Wow. Or like like a small a walmart. Yeah, so each one of these layers is 500 billion dollars
I mean, wow
dude
Oh, go look that graphic of the job creation that the robots he's trying to eliminate right now
The the perversion of that and and yeah, yeah
Yeah
Should watch some more news this week about the cost of convenience. Good one. Um cars then yeah, how about cars?
You know what robots could not do did we ever talk about the intake I installed?
Do we do we I mean we talked about you were halfway through?
I don't know if you ever finish the story I finished the intake
Okay, uh a robot could not install this because you have to get your arm
in and over and around and under and do all kinds of things
uh
And that makes I mean mechanics out there should be pretty happy like your job is pretty secure
You're like the plumbers without leaving smelling like actual fecal matter
And that uh should give you some comfort as the robots approach
Uh, yeah, this thing's awesome. It's a venturi hybrid
Airbox for e
e46's
You work my fucking flashlight
Uh, well, I have I realize I don't have enough lights in my garage
Like it looks like it looks like your garage is incredibly poorly lit
It is I someone made a great comment in my instagram that was like this garage is lit by 150 watt bulb
And then I uh, I asked people what they use in their garage and I got a lot of very helpful
But like a lot of dms of these lights I can order which I'm going to
um
Because I realized that when I when I turn the light on and I'm not in the garage like the car's not in the garage
I go it's lit so nicely. It's awesome when you pull the car in and lift the hood
It's gotta it's gotta be dark. Well, it shades the light the light is the sun and the hood is the shade
So under in the engine bay can't see anything and you don't want to work the other way around
You don't want to back up. It wouldn't help because the the light is central
So either way, I'm not seeing anything. Um, yeah, that's a funny issue scan grip detailing lights here
You can use if you need them into them. Uh, thank you. I bought um some magnet lights, which are good
Headlamp is really the way to go and I I might get some of these like lights
You can hang like $30 leds and stuff. You can really vibe it out
Get some chain, you know some string lights. I thought we
I was like, sir, do we still have those string lights? He goes, we just gave them more
Otherwise I would it would look like Christmas in my garage just because I need to be able to see, you know, rgb lights
Yeah, we don't have studio lights anymore
Oh like the big yeah, we sold our studio lights. Yeah, I should have taken them from that lemons team
I wasn't using them. Um, but this thing's awesome, dude. It it sounds way better
It's like halfway between stock and a csl airbox. Is it more like a
Or like a warp. It's that one. It's the second one. Yep. Uh, yeah, that's what you want. That's what I wanted
It's nice. But once you're cruising, it's not loud
And uh, because it still uses the maf sensor like I turned it on
It learned for about six hours and then it figured it all out and uh, I'm very very happy about it. Yeah, cool
It looks good. Is it um, is it um, you know legal? Yeah
It's a good question
Well, is there an eo sticker on it? There's not they're working on that. Um, so if I do you have until
Until smog that becomes a problem. Well, I smogged my car two months ago or something. That's for a while
You got a little bit. Yeah, but what's funny is like I'm not trying to blow up your spot. No, it's fine
It's like, I mean like I should
If they plug into the obd2, it should be fine because it still uses an maf
Like it doesn't change my emissions at all. But uh, if they open the hood
I don't know. Don't they just plug it in? I don't watch them. I well, listen
We'll see new shooter
New shooter coming in. It would be very ironic if I went through all this trouble to get like the most legal version of an intake
And then it's still actually
Yeah, well, those people just means it has a sticker on it. That's all it means
Well, my the one they sent me was was prototype. Okay. They're very close to production. So maybe they can send me an eo sticker
Yeah, no, it's a good question. Yeah
No, they could they could if it does if it does get certified in california. They can send you a sticker
I got them from uh, dine in for my
My dine in shit
Because my car came my bmw had dine in s1 stuff on it that
Was sold to a car the car was sold outside of california
So it didn't need the stickers, but it would pass. So they sent me the stickers which put on the car
Nice. Um speaking of robots though, uh, the other day I was I got off the highway
Did I tell you the story yesterday?
No, I'm getting off the highway
I throw the car in neutral just like coast and the car dies while turning very slightly
So I punch in a chat gpt. I'm like, here's what my card
Here's what my car did like it died while coasting in neutral with slight amount of steering angle while breaking
And I just changed intake and these other things and it it's like I think it's your
Icav valve or something which directly controls your computer when the car is idling. It basically tells the car
Here's how much electricity and power you need to run the systems that are being that are demanding power
While the car is idling and I went, oh, that's cool. That does seem exactly like what happened
Guess where that valve is located matt
Right back where you directly underneath the intake plenum. No
I moved it out of the way like I I I touched it. I saw it. I know where it is
But it's under the plenum. Do you think it has failed or do you think you may have reinstalled it improperly?
I didn't actually uninstall that thing. It just says that they get dirty
You can just clean them out with with math cleaner, which I have but it means how much how many hours I'm talking about
What?
First did it restarted right? Yeah, immediately. No, it's like it's only only when coasting in neutral under braking with gentle turn
It's very very specific
You asked everything of the car without enough juice going to the alternator to supply it. Yeah, so it'll probably it would probably take me
Three hours
That sucks
I know well you might go do you think it'll go faster because you've done it before yes, okay
Which I'm getting really good at that. I've every repair I've done on this car. I've done twice to do once
God that sucks. I'm learning stuff. You are you're getting
You're learning things and stuff and then eventually I'll sell that car and I'll have to learn all over again on something else
So anyway, um, I like the intake a lot, but I have to fucking clean that valve
Yeah, oh dude, that's funny. What are we at for time right now? We're at 21. Okay, cool. Uh, the other only I think have you noticed, uh, like
Electric pickup trucks haven't seemed to have worked out like Ford is idling the lightning plant
Rivian is like just like laid off, you know, like 600 people the cyber truck is
Like it seems that electric pickup trucks are not
Being mass adopted in a way that is, uh, really working out
I mean
Well, wow
Well, maybe this is uh
Huh
I mean, it's just like it's they thought it was going to be like hundreds of thousands of trucks
So it's like tens of thousands of trucks. Got it. Yeah 20 hours ago
Ford halts the lightning production to focus on gas. Well, also, uh,
With rebates going away. That's not going to help them sell more of these things. Yeah, and the recall thing said it was 63,000
Cybertrucks, which is all of them
And so like that's the total. Whoa. So of two million orders they converted 63,000. That's a good ratio
0.063
Oh, it's half that
0.03
315 percent
Uh, I think that's right. Yeah from 2 million to 63,000 is 0.0315
Right. Well, that's that's better than 0.02
That's terrible. That's not great
So I wonder why I mean they were expensive the electric trucks
I mean in rivian, I think the r1 r1 t is this old and people are waiting to
Everyone who has one who wants one has one. Yep
And like people are waiting on the r2, right?
That's why they said they laid off all those people but still like
You know, if they were really killing it, they wouldn't be laying off people. That's all I'm saying
I think rivian
Is not financially
So I just couldn't remember what the lightning cost 50 54 grand and 92 depending
um
Yeah, I mean that if you lose the 7500 rebate, which everyone's losing for evs
I mean, I see lightnings around in la but I suspect they're not getting a lot of the commercial adoption that
Ford was hoping maybe they expected. Yeah, which is too bad. I think there are I think there actually are and I'm like
From the lib west coaster. What do I know about a fucking tradesperson?
uh
My contractor who built my house
who was like
You're fucking laran is as tradesperson as it gets dude that guy like
Was a contractor, but like physically built like half my house. He just got an f 150 hybrid and like loves it
With the power boost one. I like that truck a lot. Yeah, he's all about that shit because then you you get the power
You can run all the power tools and stuff, which was one of the lightning selling points
But you also have unlimited range. You can go you don't have to worry about charging and planning and that kind of stuff
He got like an amazing deal on it. Yeah, but he probably he probably could have like he could have made use of a lightning also because he's not like
He's not running that many power tools
But like you but it would be nice to have power
For the sometimes well, how far is he usually driving in a day? I think that would also be a factor
Not that far as his work is in la you know
Across the city to the job and then back to his house, you know 40 miles a day 50 miles a day
Not far I wonder if they sold more electric trucks from any manufacturer in
Like city areas versus out in open areas where people are driving hundreds of miles probably. Yeah. Yeah, it's too true
Um, but like even if you drive if you're driving 200 miles a day
Like you could charge that overnight it you can do 200 miles overnight at your house with a level two
Uh, yeah, definitely if you're always doing the same route, you know, but if you're out like
I don't know job job job or like so these guys are out doing like, you know
Fracking stuff natural gas work and they just don't really do it 300 miles a fucking day
You don't want an electric car of any kind like that's the that's the one use case like extreme
But that dude your body is gonna get fucking fucked up
If you're so bad if you're doing 300 miles a day find a new job your body is going to fall apart
If that's your if you wonder I'm just serious
Uh
Okay, so
Right, so in quarter record in a pickup truck if you're in semi, I think it's a little more
Oh, yeah, so quarter three of this year ford sold
207,000 f series
And I think we just saw that they sold 10,000 lightning in quarter three
So
They're selling 20 times right more gas or diesel powered trucks. Yeah, that's I guess that's a failure
That sucks. Yeah, and they just maybe you'll maybe I should get one for fucking
Cheap if they go on sale
Uh a used one would probably be very cheap, but then you don't get the depreciation, right?
Uh for taxes and stuff you can depreciate use stuff. Well for a business expense. Yeah, I had to be new
I don't I mean look don't take fucking tax advice from me, but um
The Bentley
The Bentley was a company car long-term test car made content out of it took depreciation on that
I mean that was a fucking 30 year old car. Oh, okay. Yeah, I need to learn more about the tax code
I mean, I think if it's I don't know if it's personal or business. I I listen. I don't fucking know shit
You do not want to ask me questions, but I do I can tell you
What a very qualified?
You know tax accountant did I feel like uh, we did that show that john maguire go listen to that because I think we talked about this
But it was years ago. I forgot. Yeah, I think if it's for a business because you can do because like
Think about how many businesses by used tractors used, you know, I mean not everybody can afford brand new shit
You have to be able to depreciate
It's usually just like what'd you buy it for what'd you sell it for and how long did you own it for like that's
pretty much it
That one math problem probably takes 50 pages of paperwork to do but like
um
So listen, uh, it is at this point during the show that uh
For our live audience right now, we're gonna fucking travel through time
But for everybody else uh while I was in spain doing this turbo s thing
It was like
So many friends there that I was like well, I have to
There's so many people there that I don't see all the time that we should at least record something
So I did I got four of them. Unfortunately tom ford
I didn't realize that he wasn't like returning to where I was. I would have made a point to get him
Um, so I didn't get to get tom ford who was fucking cool
But uh, I got sam uh feign seen through glass jason fenske from engineering explained
um chris harris and jack holmes from uh, savage geese and we did I did individually because I I
Everyone was busy. So individually we did five question podcast lightning round
Uh, so it was really fun got some really good answers from people. I got to do uh, they all did 60 seconds for me on the turbo s
So you can get a summary of their reviews right here in this show
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From a scurry circuit. Hello, sir. Hello jack of savage geese is here. No mark today. Unfortunately mark stayed at home
But jack
He's faster
Okay, uh, what we're doing right now is we're doing podcast lightning round because so many of the people that I like are here
Uh, we we thought we'd do a few minutes with everybody starting with you. So I'm asking everybody the same questions
Best and worst cars you've driven this year the best two and I'm currently deciding between both of them is Mustang gcd
And c8 zr1 those are tough. Yes, and worst. Is there a solid worst? Probably most disappointing is
Probably the new m5 new m5. I uh drove the m5 touring
Wasn't my favorite does good slides, but wasn't my favorite. I I'm
Disappointing because my expectations were high. I don't think it's inherently a terrible car. I just wanted it to be more like
The m5 cs fair enough
We're here doing a turbo s today. This will not go up until after the embargo
So I won't throw you under the bus. Give me give me 30 to 60 seconds on turbo s
It is everything you're expecting a new 911 turbo s to be
it is
Basically an iterative improvement of the old car with even more impressive drivetrain technology
A more sophisticated chassis and it does everything well. Does it have the drama of a gt car? No
But if you need to do everything supercar, that's exactly what it is. Mm-hmm. This one is for everything. Yes
Uh, what what's coming up on your list that you're excited to drive next or soon?
man
honestly
I have no idea. I'm just probably a very normal automotive journalist answer. I can't think after next week
Yeah, that's pretty much where we're at. We're just like you. We're on the hamster wheel of doing this
So every week is a new adventure. Well, we're getting to the end of the season. Yes, we've driven all the new
What are you looking forward to driving that?
Oh, I I just did performance car of the year. I just did zinger. I've driven so much
I'm looking forward to is there anything you haven't driven this year that you wish you've driven
I really want to have a go in a dls
And I think my relationship with willow springs may make that happen at some point
um
You and I run in different circles sir. So yes, I mean look, I don't I can't afford one. I'm just saying I'd like to
Just give you a hard time. I did I did have a go in in singers turbo their turbo study car
What about a more fabulous reduction normal cars?
Um, I haven't driven m2cs. I want to try that. Um, I was bummed that didn't make it out uh to performance car of the year
And I'm really excited. Maybe a ways out for valhalla actually for astin valhalla. I hope it shows up eventually
But I like the astin's I've driven recently
No, they are spectacular. Yeah. Um, okay number four, uh describe
And you could do it in specifications or or however your your version of the perfect fizzy sports car
High revving naturally aspirated rear wheel drive
Where's the engine?
It's either in the rear or in the front. Oh, not middle. Yeah rear front. I I I inherently enjoy
One of the things I like about the gtd and I I wish it was a manual is the fact that there's nothing else like it
You have this big super charge. I know it's not an na car, but you have this big engine in the front
That's very linear. Yeah, and it I I think that's what I enjoy in cars. Like I like cars that make me laugh
Yeah, I mean I for me the car's got to have really have a personality, you know, and so
I don't know if the turbo s is the car for me because it every it goes about everything
But it doesn't have to be so seriously. No, it's not for me. Someone will love this thing
But I like I like insane
Okay, last one you have a month of freedom. You don't have to work. You don't have to do anything
You don't have to film and you have a you have
Pretend money. You're going on a road trip. Where are you going and what are you driving?
Man
Not your car. It doesn't it doesn't have to be your car. I understand. We're giving the car back
The car only car doesn't have to exist after this month
Probably
I'd love to take a 911 st through like the swiss alps
I think that's very high on my list of not the wrong answer. Yes, that is all right. Yeah
All right, five questions with jack from savage geese. Hopefully this was not the worst thing you've done so far
The worst thing I've done so far not today
Sam feign is here this this launch is awesome because it
Sucked to get here, but I love it here and all my friends are here
That's fantastic. So we get to do five minutes with everybody. I'm happy. You're here. Yeah, sam feign the lightning round
Best and worst cars you've driven this year. Oh god, don't do this to me. Um
Worst car. Where's my phone? I need to remind myself what I've driven
Nothing stood out as being particularly bad. No, I forget. Do you not do this in this job? No, I have no idea what I've driven
I got in a car that I don't say I've never driven this and my hoardings are like, hey
What about these three videos you made?
So let's let's actually go back and think about we can go the other way and what stood out as being great
Did I genuinely need my phone? Okay out of the rs6 gt
Oh interesting because I owned the standard car
And never bonded with it and the gt just did something to me that you know what it was
It was the fact that it looked so stupid
I just like I bonded with that because I just like that it was out there and it was good and it felt a bit edgy
So that was cool the rs6 in general is probably
It's probably the
Credits boring car. Yeah, it's so broken. It's really heavy and like it makes a silly noise and doesn't really do very
It's not fun, but everybody is like, yes
And that's what stressed me out like I had people who wanted to come to me like, hey, dude. What a cool car
I'll think about all right. We come back. Yes. Yeah, uh, this will go out after the embargo
So give me 60 seconds on the turbo s your impression. Um, I felt sick
I felt motion sickness. Um, they what I think they've done is just
Expand the breadth of capabilities. All right. It's just better in every single area
I took it to a road that I drove six months ago my gt3. It felt heavy a
I bet it felt real. I bet. Yeah, and did you drive the convertible?
Not yet. I've been driving the coupe. Do you know that the convertible is the first 9 11 to crack 4 000 pounds?
They did you notice how they didn't mention weight yesterday. I looked up the spec sheet. It's over four
This is 38 29. Yeah, and it felt I have to say on a tight and twisty road. It felt real heavy, right, right
But no, otherwise. Yeah, mega cool. I not for me. I'm not a turbo guy, but very cool so fast
So, yeah, so fast anything in the schedule through the rest of the year that's really exciting you
It would have happened by the time this goes out. We are doing an og
uk automotive youtuber road trip. Oh fun
So 10 years ago myself schmi 150 subdelaney subcars London. We all drove down to monaco in our cars
It's the 10 year anniversary. We're doing it again. So that's fun. What are you going to drive the gt3? I'm driving my chance to dali
So that would have already been ours. That's lovely. Go check out that content. Okay, cool. That's going out between now and next week
Yeah, coming out on sunday. Great. Go look at scene through glass for that
Uh, give me your version of the perfect fizzy sports car. Give me an engine configuration
You know, it has to be v8 because I just like I just love a v8. So that immediately is less fizzy because it's too heavy
but no v8
Naturally aspirated. I was gonna say supercharged, but no naturally aspirated v8 manual gearbox
Front engine rear-wheel drive. Okay. I've literally just given you a gt. I think you've just given me a shelby
I think that's a mustang shelby 350, right? Hey, pretty much. That's clearly what I like
Okay, last one and and you this is your life kind of anyway, but we're going to expand on it
Unlimited funds and you have a month of no responsibilities
Not that part not that part
Uh, because I'm asking you have a month to take a road trip in a car. That's what I meant by not your unlimited funds
Um
A month to take a road trip in a car
You can pick any car and the car does not exist after this road trip. Where are you going and what are you driving?
Well, you will relate to this entirely 9 11 Dakar, morocco
Like it's not the wrong answer because I did that in my 360 Modena
I did four days around morocco and I fell in love with that country
I fell in love with those roads and I was like this car's great here. It's not the right car. No the Dakar
Yeah, morocco and Dakar morocco. That's all right up in it. So that that's yeah, I like that choice a lot
All right, Sam fein go watch his video on see-through glass about the youtuber road trip. Thanks buddy. Thank you, dude. That's it moving on
Yeah, jason fensky in the house
There we go
Lights treated me well so far
I got a mozzarella. That's 185. All right smoke tire podcast lightning round five questions. Oh boy. Here we go
You know, I don't have to answer them fast, but they're fast. Oh, okay
I want to know the best car and the worst car you've driven this year
Best car and worst car I've driven this year. Okay immediate thought because this is lightning round
We don't have too much time to process and I didn't know where we were, you know, what these questions were in advance
My immediate thought of best car was uh temerario. I really enjoyed temerario. It's like silly playful
I mean, yeah, it's like 400 grand or whatever. So like the one I drove was 550. Yeah
I don't know what the one I drove was but the point is like I feel like
You can get into these cars and you can have a dull experience
Yes, like it is that caliber of car can still have a dull experience
And I got in the temerario and the way the steering feels
Very unlike anything I've driven like the torque vectoring was like the most noticeable torque vectoring
I've ever felt in anything combined with like a super happy tail end
So it was like always ready to slide around. I had so much fun driving that car. I like that car a lot too
What were you disappointed by?
You spent like 15 minutes at dinner last night talking shit about your own lucid
That's also what immediately came to mind, but I I don't want to say lucid air
But like that is for lightning round my car. I'm gonna have a full video breaking down
the
Absolute disaster mess the software has been to live with you're like the wrong person to have a software mess
Oh, man. It is very frustrating
Uh, this won't go out until after the embargo. So, okay great 60 seconds on the turbo s. What do you think?
Turbo s is super cool. I've really enjoyed this and here's why I have not
Whenever I get into a car that offers a genuinely unique experience. I get excited even if like that experience is good or bad
I like novelty. I think that's cool. That's all we have left dude exactly
So many cars are exactly the same novelty is the last bastion of enthusiasm. Yes, and
E turbos are very new to production
Cars like it is not something common and it is genuinely a unique feeling where
That little hiccup that you typically get I'm getting attacked by a bee attack by if you get stung by a bee during
Yeah, the little hiccup that you typically get with turbo cars where you get to okay
We've gotten to like atmospheric pressure in the engine and now we're just waiting for the turbo to do its thing
And it feels like when you floor it you're like, oh i'm bogged down a little bit and you're chilling and you're waiting
And then you go into it. That's gone
And it and it's not gone in the same way that a naturally aspirated engine. It's gone like naturally aspirated boom. We're there this car
It's like you're like a god
It is and it and it never lets up. So like yes, there is a torque limit
But it takes a while to get there, but it's kind of in an exciting way where it's like
We're still climbing. We're still climbing. We're still climbing and it's just like you're always getting more
But you don't have that. Oh, I gotta wait now. So it's cool. It's unique
I think these e turbos are incredibly cool. It is it really is and when I think about like temerario
I also like to go back, you know with the e motors in the front
Totally different. Totally different strategy. Yes, but the the the net is the same
You're allowed to to use a smaller higher revvy engine that can be filled in
Invisibly almost yes, which I love. Yes. Um
Describe your version of the perfect fizzy sports car
Fizzy made a made-up car. It'll have what characteristics would be in your perfect car. It's it's just the 9 11 st
All right, that's fair. Just describe 9 11 st
I don't understand. That's that's not the wrong answer. It's like, uh
It it makes you want to be a better driver because everything is lightning fast like it it is response
Response is everything to me. I don't care about
Like top speed. I don't care about oh does it have to have like traction limited acceleration at all times?
I care about response like does when I ask for to do something
Does it do it in that moment or later and that car does everything the exact second you ask for it?
And that's just like telephoto jarring because of how good it was. Yeah, I told I told her with you
I drove, you know, it drove that car 1500 miles and I said I could just do this. Yeah, I you stop here
It's yeah, I can stop now. I think they're selling for like three-quarter mil now
Yeah, and and and I get it if I I do too. I'm just angry about I know
Well, and especially because it seems like they if they wanted to they could just make more
Yes, yes, it's there's nothing that crazy about it
I think there are some a little emissions tricks that are going on
That you can't do a super high volume car with that might be true
But but I think you know scarcity is the name of the game with like exclusive stuff. So sure
Last one you have a month of freedom
You have no no obligations to anything
You have but you must go on a road trip in a car with this month. Where are we driving and what are we driving? Oh boy?
Okay, I have to I have to spend time in cars on my month off. I know right
When I wrote this question, it didn't occur to me that on my free time. I want to be as far away from cars as possible
It's taxed it's a tax deductible month. Okay, great
Where am I road tripping?
Man, this is a good question. Here's the thing. I love wildlife
um and and some of my like
So so I'm combining a car
For a reason to do what I actually want to do rather than the car. Okay. Okay. So we're going on safari going on safari
Whether that's Kruger or or somewhere else in Africa. You need a stadium seat land cruiser. Yeah, that sounds sick
I'm bringing big cameras giant lenses. I'm checking out wildlife and with a comfy ride. So stadium seat land cruiser
Yeah, I'm counting a safari wildlife safari. Yeah, here we go. All right lightning round with jason fenski. Thank you for joining us
Yep, thanks for having me
So this is easy. We're doing lightning round five questions. Yeah for the podcast. Yeah, and then you have to go to the airport
Yeah
Uh, here we go. Chris Harris muffin is good. The muffin is all right. Yes. How's the tea? Oh, cool
I've had 75 espressos. Can you tell? Yeah? All right number one
I want the best and worst thing you've driven in recent memory
The best all round is probably that turbo today turbo s today. There's a separate question on that one
So don't don't go don't go too far. This will be after the embark mustang GTD
Oh, yeah, so you got to drive it and have a go with or step it
Yeah, so I think the mustang GTD is the car that I want most wants to own which is always the best way for me
I just thought I really want one of these. God, you'd hate one in England
Well, you're Camaro didn't work in England. It rides quite well this thing compared to a Kamara. So yes, I love that worst thing
I had another go in a DeLorean
And I know you obviously you an idiot you have one. I don't I don't understand how that was ever allowed to be built
It was it was shit
Um, it's it's a great car to go to the pub in that's what it's for. So ladies love it. That's my that's my sort of delta for that
Cool. That's a good one. Uh, number two
Because this is going to go up after the embargo. Give me 60 seconds. Uh, your thoughts on the turbo s
I came here expecting to say us another turbo
Is it another example of how this industry has just lost the ability to appeal
To people that it's just a different day same shit. Here's another turbo. Do we really care?
It looks like a 992. Did anyone really care about the 992 turbo?
Not really because for a minute the whole Carrera range was just the same a little more of the same
It just the whole thing became yeah, right and everyone really wants a GT3 RS
But that's not usable on the road. So I just you know, what's going on here?
Result is really important technology
Fabulous leaping performance
Just when you think they've lost the plot they surprise you and I like the fact that
That the turbo has always been the platform that's the window to future technology
The 959 started that process, but the turbo has really been the place where yeah, you see what's going to come variable turbine geometry
And all that all that shit and I think as a showcase for what's coming
And under their new ceo
I'm really excited for them. It's just it's a fantastic car and it's the first turbo. I've really wanted
For 10 years. Okay fair
Uh, what are you excited to drive in the next few months anything on the horizon? That's cool
I mean last night at dinner. We were lamenting the sameness of kind of everything and talking about these sort of specialty cars
That are a little more interesting. I'm more excited by
Resurrecting old cars than I have new cars at the moment to personal stuff. Like yeah, I've got an m5 wagon
That's got to be sort of finished. That's going to be good. I mean to Grali's good fun as well
And I've got this xjs project. I'm doing what I'm sure will be
non-twr xjs
Yeah, so we just a little less outrageous, but with an inline six in it rather than a 12 a supercharged one
So that's going to be quite a cool car. I think new cars
There's nothing I'm really
No, I'm doing the east african historic safari rally
With someone I'm looking forward to that that's supposed to be like a car like a total career in a total rally car
That's supposed to be one of the great adventures of motoring. So I'm really glad I've got the chance to do that
I'm doing that with furly Porsche. So we're going to be we're going to be fat
I need a racer that says spin on it because I've lost a bit of weight
But yeah, we're going to be fatted up. That's going to be an adventure. Yeah, that'll be a good time
I'm going to I'm going to join Ferdy for the ice race in february in montana in montana
Yeah, we're putting spikes on my mangs
And if you can make it you can absolutely have a go. I want to drive this radio engine thing. It is very stupid
Uh, all right describe, uh, your version. What is your perfect fizzy sports car?
ideally
I'm a bit torn. I think the sports car on the road is all about accuracy. It's not about sliding around
So I'm I'm really in an Elise phase at the moment. I just think the Lotus Elise
Isn't given the recognition it should be. It's a fabulous platform. It's so simple
It's a load of aluminium parts that have just been bonded together
But they seem to be not far off as stiff as a carbon shell
Yeah, and they and yet the performance it gives you and the joy it gives you reminds you that you don't need loads of power
I think the Elise is about to have a big resurgence. There's a couple of companies in the uk making fabulous
Oh, someone is just did who just did the one. Yeah. Someone just did a real crazy one. I forget the name of it
It's like 1200 pounds or something. It's amazing. There's a couple
In fact, I'm gonna tell I can't remember their names, but I'll give you their names
You put them on the screen now, but they're both well worth looking at so for me at the moment the Elise
cool, uh
I know this is I've
Realized doing this this is not a well written question because everyone I've asked given the opportunity for a month off
Would not so much look at a car
But you have a month of no obligations
Unlimited money and you must go on a road trip. Where are you going? What are you driving?
The car does not have to survive past this trip
Um
I'm probably going to go
Towards romania. There's some incredible roads in romania and my eldest son's for girls in highway
Is that live up to the reputation? Yeah, my son was there in the summer and he said it was fantastic
He went and he's beaten up golf to you try with his powers and he just sent me his photos
And I like the idea of an eastern european adventure. I think it's still a little bit
It's a little bit rogue over there. It's not too controlled
So I'd go there. What car would I take? I'd probably take I've got this thing an itch for an e34 m5
3.6 first gen with the turbine wheel caps
Sure
I'd go on one of those and make it sweet and healthy and have exhaust a little bit louder than normal
And I want that box between the rear seats. So I want the four seat layout because I think it looks cool
Yeah, yeah, I always wanted the rear captain's chairs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I probably do that. All right
That's a good and I want to bring the car back with me because on top gear
Sometimes the cars didn't come back and I hated it and I it was wanton destruction. I want to apologize for everyone for that
I wasn't involved. It was the producers. It wasn't me
But I remember leaving my Renault 4 and the Himalayas and just thinking
Can't let them see me cry. Can't let them see me cry. But I don't want this car to be left here
If you really wanted it, would they have found a way to get it back for you? No, you know that rolled off a hill
I guess that's not it. Yeah, sorry. All right. That's a lightening round with chris harris and you have to go to the airport
So best of luck with everything. It's lovely speaking to you. Send my best to zack who's posting lots of photos of his wedding from a year ago
Yeah, it was great, which he didn't invite me to so well, would you have come? No, yeah
That's the most the most la thing ever. I don't want to go. I just want to be invited exactly that's la. Thank you everybody
Right. Oh
Welcome back
And for those of you in the live show welcome to the future
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Um, and you get to ask some questions
Including starting with stew dog who just wants to uh, who has a point and i'm gonna read his question
Uh, he says doing another color canyon when I said that the black pearl was the last one is pretty lame
The black pearl even says final edition on the case back to which I say fair point
That is a fair point. Um, I'm just following the lead of Horatio Pagani you guys
The bc, you know, it is a fair point and um
I'll say this if you have a black pearl
With a case back that says final edition
If that bothers you that we are considering doing another color after that
Hit me up and I'll send you a new case back that does not say final edition on it
Complimentary if it bothers you for free my treat dude my treat
Um, no, I can see how it comes off as like a cynical cash grab
um, it's not that I mean, yes, there's money in it, but like
um, it was really one of those like I wore this prototype and my
Friend was like holy shit. I'd fucking buy that and my other friend was like, oh shit
I'd fucking buy that and I hit a west and I was like west my friends are
Wanting to buy this and west is like dude. We have to do another color
I've been doing all of these watch shows and everyone's asking me why we're not making more colors
And I was like, okay. Well if we're gonna do another color like we have to
Make it somehow a little different. So we have found a way to make it somehow a little different
Which I just don't want to say yet. Um, and he was like, do you think people are going to be pissed?
Uh, and I was like, I don't think so
Um, maybe a couple but I doubt it. Uh, but I think of enough people are asking for another color
It's probably okay
Um, and so stew dog. I appreciate, uh, your point
And I have thought about it
Um, but a lot of people, uh, I think there's I think the demand is still there
We're working on an all new watch. This is not instead of an all new watch
Um, and we are gonna make something about it. That's a little different
Um
But and if that still bothers you or if you think that's a little lame, I understand. Uh, I do
Uh
Can you punch ends at the
uh
Rinaldi and Klein says, uh, the automotive youtube scene is pretty saturated
But is there any part of it that is a bit underserved? If any
I mean the problem is
The
Current youtube landscape really rewards a certain type of content. Um, we've talked about what those types of content are and
Not really what I want to be watching
um, I think I think it's just a reflection of
YouTube culture in general like like for some reason yesterday my home page was recommending me
A couple channels I've never seen and content I've never ever engaged with one was
I bought all of the most popular halloween costumes in the united states
And the other one was burger king versus wendy's and I looked and these people have like 600,000 subscribers
And it's just a guy girl couple in their car that eat different food
And I was like why am I being serviced? But
My point is there are people that are making a living just reviewing fast foods
Probably dozens if not hundreds of them doing that people just trying on like there's just
There's so much content of every kind everywhere because everyone goes well
I'd rather do that than have a job or that's their side hustle or whatever
So I think I think the automotive landscape is just a reflection
Or the the lens through which we see the larger youtube world
Yeah, I mean
Look, also I I'm the wrong person to ask because I don't watch a lot of youtube
Like I don't have time
I if I really care what someone else thinks about a car
I'm spoiled and that I could call or text them 95 of the time. I know these people. They're our friends
Um, we also go on these events together and talk about the car and sort of end up in similar places because of it sometimes
um
I mean
So I don't I don't know
What the greater youtube audience wants and isn't getting I think I think they want a game show
Which they're getting
A little self-serving there you go
Shot the second episode who did yeah, yeah, it's good and you think it was it did did you
did you
Did you change anything from the first episode or I mean, yeah, uh, like small tweaks which which was good
It was like thank god the foundation seemed really solid
But changed some things with question pacing and organization to try to make the show flow a certain way
um
Trying to start with a certain type of question so that we can see what each team
Is going to be like who their characters are and that worked pretty well. Cool. The whole thing went went really smooth good
uh
Black sob if it's pretty good
Uh, I want to get an electric car as my next car
But I'm in an older house and can't realistically install a level two charger only a level one
That's odd
Is it feasible to charge up at a public fast charger and then use a level one at my level one charger at my house
To keep it topped up
Anything extra I might need to consider to do that. I drive eight miles round trip in a day
I think you I think you could do that for at least a while. Yeah, I think you get away with that for a while
It's like a level one charger
Will put on about
40 miles of electricity
Overnight right
So if you're driving under 40 miles a day
You will you can get away with a level one at home for sure especially if there's
a reasonable convenient fast charger
Somewhere in your area where you could top off for a quick 10 minutes once in a while
And we when we have the volt it was 40 40 miles a night
110 very rarely used and that was 10 years ago. Yeah, I think I think you'd probably get
20% more than that with a modern a better battery
So
Okay, that that that's that's wrong one for this one. Uh
Well, okay, uh coop it is, uh
When discussing the new toytal lexus brand the other day you mentioned should have an onboard generator which makes sense
When we had our sprinter van built out we had a secondary alternator installed to charge the van's lithium battery bank
It charges at about 200 amps when driving. Why hasn't this been done in a hybrid?
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I I couldn't possibly tell you why this hasn't been done in a hybrid but there are like
Like heavy-duty sprinter and like heavy-duty ford and gm vehicles that have like high output alternators and stuff
But I don't and I don't I don't know why
Like why would a hybrid need it? What what what is?
Like I'm not I'm not like like why is he asking why uh, uh, why there isn't a self-generating
Hybrid what I don't really understand
I think I think he's asking why there aren't
Twin alternators in more cars
Maybe but I would just say that drag. I mean it's a lot of drag. It would generate more power than you need
Takes up more space. I mean the oems are always going to use
You know as much as they need but not more
So if they can design the system the hybrid system to operate fine with one alternator and charge at the rate that they like
Then that's what they're going to go with. Um, otherwise, you know two alternators now you need extra belts
You need more service life all these other things
So if they don't have to do that, they won't do it and they also capture regen
You know in most of these cars through the braking, right? Yeah, so that's that's how they charge versus your sprinter doesn't have regen, right?
Uh clapped and busted says what's the worst cleanly?
Oh, we've talked about this a bunch back in the day
It was a brand new outie and someone left a seafood chowder in the trunk which spilled and the car had to be totaled
It was fucked up
Who uh
I have no idea what randy's question is. I don't know that is um ask it's a request for a guest
But I have no idea who the guest is
um
Oh, they make a tiny it's america's smallest electric truck. Yeah, uh
Dray from houston says i've got a tuned 600 horsepower 992 karara s which is 75 percent of the way
To flat sixes 992
Karara t we tested
Question do you get that type of build or a 992 turbo?
Oh depends if you want to drive stick
Mostly I will drive. Yeah, and if you want all-wheel drive
What do you want you? What do you want the end result to be?
um
If you're just talking about like
Uh
If you don't care about driving stick meaning if you want if you're open to pdk and if you want all-wheel drive
You should just get a 992 turbo. I mean just get the the best one that portia offers
I mean what made the car that we drove cool was that it was that type of acceleration and thrust but in the
Lighter rear-wheel drive manual transmission package
And and the engine and stuff is apparently robust enough to take it, which is pretty cool
Um, but that's going to be a far different thing than
Than an actual turbo s. Yeah
um
Okay
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Fully loaded diapers as I wear size 13 boots daily
And I'd rather not switch to driving shoes when driving manuals
My 1997 Mitsubishi evolution 4 had a narrow pedal box while a 2024
BMW m2. I drove felt much more comfortable
Is a pedal box with primarily classic versus modern difference in this or does it depend on more factors?
uh, wait
Is is that
Evo a right-hand drive car?
Uh, probably evo 6 or sorry evo 4 if evo 4 is our only right-hand drive
um
That will make a big difference if you have big feet a right-hand drive pedal box could be
problematic for you
So if you're talking about a car from the 90s and a right-hand drive pedal box versus a
Car from the 2010s and a left-hand drive pedal box
That will be a huge difference mainly just because of the the way the dead pedals laid out like because of what you have
Here's a left-hand driver. Is that left-hand drive? Yeah
So I guess there's both
Uh, look that pedal box does look a little narrow even in left-hand drive. Okay, so
I guess this says left-hand drive conversion
Oh, so I don't think they're factory left-hand although nice looking conversion there could have fooled me
Yeah, I guess lesser ones. Maybe we're made in left-hand drive. Here's other
Yeah, dude, right-hand drive cars are gonna feel tighter no matter what
Um, also evo 4s are pretty small. There's small cars, but you also have transverse engine and then you also have
um, I don't know the architecture outright, but like you have a um like a trans axle situation that's sending the power
Like there's just more shit under there versus the m2. It's very simple. It's a longitudinal engine
That means it's narrower. Yeah, and then you have this the trans going to the drive shaft to the back
It is also a newer car. I mean newer cars are just bigger than older cars. I mean this is a new m2. That's
It's a lot 30 almost 30 years newer cars can be a lot bigger. Yeah, I mean, there's there
I have excuse me
I have to put on different shoes to drive certain cars
I have to take off my shoes to drive certain cars and that's um, and I have a size 12
Not even a 13. So, you know, I can I'm like the shoes I'm wearing right now are these big like elephant feet new balances
like I can pretty much only drive
like
luxury sedans wearing those
Um to drive any sports car. I have to wear these different new balances that are narrower
And to drive like the coontosh or anything is pretty much barefoot
Um, the a new m2 is eight inches wider than an evo four
That is
A ton. I mean, that's all the shoe you have, you know, that's plenty. Yeah, that's a ton. Yeah. Yeah, good question though
Dakar all the Porsches says
Driving Meredith the 918 on the road and track event is going to be epic
918s are currently listed for sale around 3.3 million
That's first off. That's fucking crazy. That is that's
These are cool cars, but
Hell no on a 980. I can tell you this before I drive it for 3.3 million. No
No
Absolutely not the competition at that price fucking fierce, dude. You're that's a singer and a zinger
Yeah, that's true. That's a zinger. Yeah
Yeah, 3.3 million you're dailying a singer turbo and you're weak-ending a zinger. Yeah multiple crara gts
Yeah
The question is is there a point at which you would say no to an opportunity like this because the car is too expensive?
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I
Do not have to financially underwrite this car, which is you know a privilege, but if I did
I can't do the job
Like this just doesn't happen. That's when the cars are owned by manufacturers. They're insured by the manufacturers
Um, there this is a nom. There are rules. Uh, I'm not allowed to take it on the track, which is totally understandable
Um a little bit of a bummer, but totally understandable
Um, but outside of that. No, I mean, um
The car's insured and I know I'm not going to do anything stupid with it
So I think it'll be good times. I hope it'll be good times
LeBron James
Okay, interesting
Um thoughts
On the l 300 delica compared to the l 400 delica
The turbo diesel is only rated 86 horsepower from the factory, which seems too slow to get out of its own way
Well, I have an l 300 delica. I've had it for
Shit six years
since 2019
um
And like yeah, it's pretty slow. I mean, it's not undrivably slow
Um, but it's slow. Uh, it tops out at around 70
But it does it does matter
If you're if you're like by yourself in it, you know, we're like two people in it
Then it's not so bad. If you have like six people in it, then it's like pretty pretty bad
Um, but it's like it's very fuel efficient and in an urban setting. It's like totally fine
um
It's 86 horsepower, but it's 135 pound feet of torque, which in a diesel that's real
That's really the number. Um, and it doesn't weigh much
Um, having said that the l 400 the the rounder one
Drives way better. It just that just drives like a normal car like but it also like looks like a normal car
Like nobody wants a delica because it looks like a nobody wants just like in
They they're cool because of how they look the 300s the space van all that the cat like it's a it's a it's a vibe
It's a style like I mean if you want the better driving one, like yeah get an l 400
But like they don't look that cool. They just look like
Mazda mpvs or dodge caravans from the same era just like round 90s
Van you looked up at l 400 look up an l 400 delica. They're not ugly
They're just not like
I don't know cool
Yeah
The 400 is a front engine design. It's not a cabover design
So it's like I mean it's not an ugly van, but it just looks like a normal 90s van instead of a cabover
That's true. I think it's kind of cool looking. Um, but yeah, it's definitely more traditional
It's not ugly, but it's not like I bought the we bought the delica for like the vibe
Not like hannah saw the l 400 and I was like, you know, this one drives more normal and she's like
That's boring. I don't the 400 looks like a short nose windstar
Yeah, yeah, those l 400s do drive nice though
They have a lot more power a lot more torque and a very smooth transmission. This looks like a good time slow. Yeah, they're all right
Now the the 400s are all right. They just they just don't look that cool
Look go ahead and go to the interior like the interior is very normal
Um, if they have a shot of the interior
Oh boy
Allow the cookies
Always allowing the cookies
Wow wood sealing. Oh, wow. Yeah teaked it out. All right. Well, that's how you make one of those cool
This is a full like camper build. Yeah, this is a very cool truck
Whoever built this fucking thing that is cool. But uh, yeah, I don't think that was interesting
Mustang gtd's nuts
Uh best and worst car themed gifts you've ever seen
The best is I got a torque wrench from a girl I dated in college and I still use it
Yeah, it's not an expensive one, but I think it's still pretty accurate
And yeah, that was the the best thing that came out of that relationship. Yeah
Um
I've gotten some like really cool vintage movie posters. I've oh, I mean look
Donny gave me that ferrari book
Which was unbelievable and I the it came in an engine like crate and it's I I turned the entire thing into a coffee table
The entire display it looked like an engine inside of a crate the the task gin ferrari book. That's um, but that was gorgeous
um
It might be the coolest ferrari the coolest car gift I've ever gotten
I don't know about worst. I mean people give me so many hot wheels of my own cars
Which like fine, I'll re-gift them to kids but like
Like the number of times I've gotten like a hot wheels of a car. I already own yeah
Like I got the I got the real one got some later. Oh, my friend gave me a shifter for my car
Which is very nice because all the mine was like bubbling and gross. Yeah, that was a very good gift. Yeah
I've never I mean, I've never gotten a truly bad car gift, but
um
The stigs lauchen cousin. Oh, no, my girlfriend has two large dogs whose drool has damaged the paint on her bronco
I've tried cutting polish. It doesn't seem to be doing the job
Any idea on how to fix this? I'm treating it like hard water stains
You may need a professional correction. Oh, I mean
Like you might need a wet sand like
If it was if someone brought it to me
Like I would call I would have derrick bemus in here to color sand it and that would probably do it
That's what we would do. That's what we do with hard water
um
So I don't recommend trying to wet sand your own car if you don't
Already have the skill. Larry probably has a really good video on it
um
And you probably won't damage it more than the dog drool honestly, but I guess dog drool is slightly alkaline. Yeah, but it it um
It may be time to call in a professional. Yeah
um
You you absolutely will need a heavy-duty polisher if not color sanding and I for that kind of shit. I would say call a professional
uh charlie quarks and features
Oh
They've been here for a while. Okay. Well about three weeks. All right, uh
I have an Audi a6 that I got almost basically brand new for half price
I'd like to do a few mods, but have an aftermarket warranty
What are some safe mods and no no mods you can think of?
Well, safe is always suspension stuff suspension wheels tires that never voids things. Yeah, uh, you just don't want to modify
You don't want to add power because then they'll say they avoids the powertrain warranty
Yeah, uh light cut you could do, you know, like the clear corner markers little cosmetic stuff like that
I mean look dude
You're rolling an a6 like it's a nice car, but like let's not pretend it's something it isn't
You know all's you're gonna get limited
limited improvements from what engine is it 3t or is it no it's like
Most of them are the 3.0. Okay, if you're in america if you're in other countries you get the 2.0 and a diesel
I don't know if there's a bigger engine. I think they're all 3.0 t's but
I mean I think it goes back to the question is always what do you want to do with the car?
Yeah, so if you just want it to be different you can do that with wheels and
Tint and like that
Mild lowering mild lowering but not, you know, don't make it uncomfortable
And you've got a great looking like luxury sedan. Yeah, if you don't want to try to make a race car do it with something else. Yeah
Vision 2002
Is considering a lot. Oh, wow. Okay a motor swap for his bmw 2002. Okay
I've done some bolt-ons. Maybe I'm at 125 horsepower. Still hungry for more
The most common swaps are the 325i six cylinder
The 318 four cylinder
The f20 series from the Honda s2000 or an s14 from the e30 m3
Leaning towards the m20, which is the inline six. Am I wrong?
So our friend Ali has a 2002
With a hot rod s14 in it that is like a riot
Having said that
A stock s14 is probably not worth the money. It would cost you. I agree
Um, the 318 i is not enough gain that it's worth enough worth putting in
The m20 is a pretty good idea
Uh, but I would consider if you're getting an engine
Already to do a 2.7 stoker crank on it because why the fuck not the engine's already out of the car
Uh, all it's just going to be a few different parts. There's a I mean, there's a lot of bolt-ons for the m20
It's such a known thing. Uh, it's a really strong engine and a very reliable engine and that's I mean, that's a good choice
I don't know how it will affect
Um, the weight. I don't know what the weight of the stock engine is the m10 versus the m20
I don't know if it'll change the weight balance
at all, uh
I don't I wouldn't do the f20 from the s2000, but maybe a k24
I mean if you could k swap it that thing would fucking rip well in that that and the f20
I think would both sound like hot s14s. Yeah, but in theory
Be cheaper and maybe more reliable the s14 seem to be finicky placement
For this car versus just the 9 000 revs, you know, like fucking s2000s made no torque
Like I'd rather have if I'd rather have a fucking k swap in an s2000
Because you could you could get a sick fucking race k swap k24 and make like 280 would fucking rip
If the I don't know about the weight I agree with you, but if the weight isn't too fucked up
I'm m20 followed by k series. I think that's a good good choice. I think the f20 of you rad though. It'll be fun
Uh lump lingered last in line for brains. That is uh, that's a pot. You would say reference, right?
Yeah, best line written by a band. I can't fucking stand they wrote a bunch of terrible songs and one really good line and that's it
Uh
I'm lucky and uh, oh wow. I'm lucky enough to have some spare time. So I'm putting us on spot here
So I volunteer at my local food bank every week. Do you do any work in your community?
um
It depends what you call work
I I I give a lot of time and money to the animal shelter shout out to peter zippy fund their open house
Is november 8th if anybody wants to come meet some kittens with me down in hermosta beach
um
That's most of what what we do during the fires we did a little bit and uh
Hannah helps some of the elder ladies in the in uh in our neighborhood and is on the board of our library
um
I don't do enough. I'll say that like I think about it often but
Whatever good intentions are only worth so much. So I give more money than time
Uh, I give a decent amount of money, but like I don't have the fucking time
And you know Hannah when she was not working hannah tried
Pretty hard to find organizations to to volunteer at in la
They were like not taking volunteers and I'm not saying that people shouldn't volunteer for stuff and during certainly during the fires
Or any other kind of you know short term natural disaster or anything like yeah volunteer for sure, but like um
food bank type stuff uh a lot of like
you know reaching out with seniors and um troubled adolescents
I guess in la they do get a lot of volunteers and really didn't like need hannah which
Sort of made her like a little sad
You know because she needed something to do at the time
Um, but yeah, if you can you should
degenerate
One take og here remember the white jeep with the machete. Oh, yeah, right
Okay, uh, uh anyway if there had been
Uh a top gear america or similar format show you had been a part of who would you have wanted to be your co-host to put on the most entertaining show
Dude, I mean, I thought we were kind of there like no offense to spinnelly
But I would have I was it was me you and harris like that would be my show pretty much
Um, I don't I don't be amazing. I don't need a lot more than that. I think it would have been a good fucking time
I think alex roy was also very good on that show because he was the uh
He was the james may kind of you know
Character. Yeah, so oh, yeah, that would have been fun too. He was really good on that show. Yeah
That's very impressed me you alex and chris would be pretty fun. Sign it up. Yeah
Um NBC sports is coming back. I would do I would do one with
Fenske and chris also. I would do that. Yeah, fenske's great. Yeah
Uh, he would be he'd be a high quality nerd
I think because I think you know top gear has shown you need you can't have three people that are exactly the same
Like you need some overlap, but also some separation. Yeah, or uh, you know circles can't be three circles can't be one circle
um
Mr. Williams, I also I don't I want
What else would I put on that?
I don't know. I think that would be fun though
I don't know if that format still like works though t-pain
Yeah, he is fucking pretty cool. Yeah, he's very he's really funny. He can drive. Yeah, but he had he wasn't embedded in the world
First, you know such a long time. So I think a wild card. That's a good call
Yeah, that'd be fun. Someone who is not an auto journalist for a long time would be fun. Yeah
That would be fun. Very nice. Uh
Can you scroll down please? Zach's burble tuned metro says I just got a 1990 corvette zr1
22 000 miles california car new
From for under 25 000 dollars. Wow
Do you think if chevy had made the exterior more special they would be more collectible now?
um
I just think zc4s are not collectible. I mean as the as the collectibles they should be I mean
excuse me
I think
um
With the zr1 like it's that's they're such sleepers. I mean it's actually
It's for those who know
The zr1 is the coolest wide body kit of all time
Because they it's not a wide body kit
They fucking cut the car length the long way down the middle and stretched it from the middle
That's the boss's shit ever
Like it's a non-wide body wide body
And the only way you can tell is you have to punch in on the license plate
And look at the black spacers in between the license plate and the park and the reverse right here
That is the wide body
It's the it's the fucking dopest
Slippery shit ever
Have you ever driven a c4 zr1? No, they drive so good
Especially the the quote dot-two though like 94 95s they rip and the fucking steering is unbelievable
I think but uh to burble tune's question
Like if they had made it, you know a little bit more extreme on the exterior if you look at these other ones below it
Yeah, like the c7 zr1 the c7 is very extreme, but the c6 not that much like they didn't change that much
Yeah, I think you know a lot of the generations it was always subtle because they're starting with the base car
That's what they what they can work with and I think the the c7
You know tall wings had become kind of
Invoke profitable whatever they were all over the place
They did trickling down from conic's egg so they could make it look more extreme, but like look at that
I mean this thing once gt3 rs is yeah once you once you had the
The full-on acceptance and in fact like the you know the market rush onto the gt3 rs
Everyone was like oh wait, we can put just race car shit on these things now. Like all right, let's go
um
Having said that dude
What I mean that car it probably feels really nice
I mean they're rattly, but whatever
But like what a fucking deal
Like that would be the perfect car to do one of those like dwa rallies or any of that kind of stuff
Oh, yeah, like great target top comes off fabulous driving experience
Oh
I have nice cams. Do you do you know the answer to this question? I have no idea you're asking
That's like a that's like a that's an an advanced engineering question that question. Yeah, that's a that's a forum question
I have no clue
domesticated Jaguar s
xjs which of your cars does the best burnout?
Probably your m3
Out of all of our cars, uh, I guess my Porsche would
I have never done a burnout in my Porsche and you don't have
You don't do you own a front engine car right now?
My brain is a vanquish. I guess if I wanted to oh, wow. So yeah, so your cars would probably hook up too much
So yeah, I mean the NSX would not do good burnouts
My car wants to put the all seasons on it would right now. They're way too sticky. I would surely snap something. Yeah
um
I haven't you know that turbo s was like the first burnout I've done in a really really like a minute
We don't do them often. No, they're so fun
What's crazy is like someone asked me to do one in the gtd at performance car the year over the video and like we forgot
Oh, yeah
Like we were just busy and completely forgot
Do I want to answer that question we don't have to
I feel like I feel like Larry talked about it on our show of like
He's just trying to talk about the cars of the places he goes
Yeah, I think Junehound wants to know about Larry Chen, you know trying to get access to the the brunei car collection
and and
Uh, uh, and the and and the argument is that you know
Prince jeffrey's not a good guy
And and I understand that um
And I don't think I would personally go to brunei and try to do that
um
but um
The the that the brunei car collection thing if you are a man of a certain age
Coming up in sort of the early internet
um
Those cars was like it was like city of gold ship. Yeah, you know what I mean and and
And I realized it was a rainbow shake collection
But just a few years earlier. Yeah, because now that's the story the cars were like mythical like they're built
They're built for this guy, but they never they were like not cars that were even sold to the public
It's all coach built stuff and and it's squirreled away somewhere like and he had to give it up
but like where is it like
um
And and yeah, I mean I I I I'm I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of
The of the political situation over there. I know he's like they're like authoritarian and not great, but
But I'm not going and I understand where the comment comes from
I totally do same with the people who went to saudi and did the comedy thing like
you know, I I kind of like
It's one of those things we're like, I'm not gonna knock your hustle
And if you tell me that you can overlook that shit and it's about like
You know about the cars, you know, okay, but I wouldn't I wouldn't have done that
Um
but
It wasn't bad enough where I'd be like, you know, Larry, I really don't think you should have done that, you know
He's an adult he can make his choices and I'm sure his fans will have been critical some of them of that
And you know, he's a grown-up knows what he's getting into
I understand that the allure though
I mean and he was just like
Can I see the cars, you know, what it wasn't it wasn't kim jong-un and well in america
I don't think
The badness of brunai is really a thing that's really like, you know taught
Yeah, I know very little about it. Like I think you could be
Somewhat ignorant of brunai and want to go see the cars in brunai
Well, I think he went I can't remember if it was about this trip or a different one
but in some time in the last six months he did a post Larry did a post on instagram about like
Getting pushed back from people about where he's going and he's like, I'm just trying to focus on the cars
I'm seeing in the car culture. I'm not trying to do a documentary on the politics of the country. Yeah, so
Which is a statement, right, you know, and you can then disagree with that, you know
I say all the time that cars are pulled up, you know people used to
But he's doing his thing and so I'm not gonna like knock his hustle
And with the the saudi one is interesting because like yes
Mbs was paying a ton of money for it and I would absolutely not go
I got invited to go to the saudi sima and it turned down a huge amount of money to go to that for me
Compared to the numbers I was hearing about for this it was peanuts, but
um
but like
We now live in authoritarian country
And and I would not want
Artists that I love
To to not come perform for me because of trump
Um, I would understand if they didn't want to like fucking bad bunny. Fuck. Yeah, dude
Exclude america and make a billion dollars fucking rock on
But i'm not a fan of bad bunny. So uh his music anyway, like I just I don't you know, i'm not a fan
So I don't really give a shit if he doesn't come to america, but um, but if it was a oasis, for instance
Like didn't want to come to america
Uh because of trump like
You know, I would understand but I'd be bummed. So like I think you know the the
If you said oh, I want to go the people of saudi
It's not their fault. Right, you know that they're in this under the system and i'm performing for them
I could kind of see that you know, even though the money is coming from mbs and now feel that would feel gross
Maybe I'd donate the money
Sure, you know, once I got home, I would donate the money to something else
Like that's the boss move right go perform for the people
Take the money and then fucking give it to a righteous cause like that would be a good move
Trevor Noah had a really good
He was doing comedy it's it's on youtube you can see it
But he was doing like comedy seller I think and he was doing q&a after his set and someone it was right when the saudi comedy festival happened
And they said what's your opinion of this and he's like well
I have a pretty unique position because I literally have traveled the world doing stand-up which not a lot of not a ton of people have
He's like americans are very lucky
In being able to say whatever you want. He's like most countries I perform in
There are rules. He's like when I go to india
People will ask me before I go up to like hey, are you gonna talk about the the p.m. And he's like
Uh, maybe and they go we'll see what happens like that was specifically specifically what he mentioned so
It's all it's all his take was like it's hard to knock someone's hustle
You don't know what their financial situation is also
The glass half full is by doing comedy there are is it a sign that that country is
You know warming and changing its ways and heading in a more progressive direction because they wouldn't have had this at all
Maybe five ten years ago. Yeah
And while they do have
They had very strict rules. They gave the comedians about what they could not joke about
Uh, he kind of throws some shade at the u.s. He's like we're in a situation now where you
Journalists are getting banned access for saying the wrong things more people are jimmy kimmel got cancelled for a certain amount of time
for literally making
The gentlest of jokes in my opinion. Um, so
It's just kind of like what's your perspective that usually, you know informs your opinion. So yeah
The boss would be to perform and then give the money for sure. Yeah, that that would be the boss. Yeah
Uh, jinn into conic state parkway my favorite combination one and then the other you pick which
Uh, was the integra type r a flop
Was it the msr premium that caused its downfall or something else? It was not a flop, but but the late 90s
Was when all of those japanese cars got really expensive
The supra the 300 zx the rx7 and the integra type r and the 300 3000 gt
um
I'm sure there must be something else
But but all of those cars really started to creep up like past like 50 000 like high 40
And then like this a c4 corvette
Or no a c5 corvette when in 97 came in at 48 000 with like unbelievable performance and an all new engine
Fucking and and there was uh, and a couple the new mustangs the new chimera
Like they they really got priced out of the american market. It wasn't just the type r though
It was like the whole reign of super premium japanese sports cars
Let's see a 99 type r the msrp was
$3,000
all right
For maybe 30 what what year 97 99 that seems low doesn't it?
I don't I don't know if they sent very many type r's to
the
american market
Like I literally think I think I think the the type r in america was a pretty limited
Import like
I think they sold every single one that they could get into america
But there just weren't all that many of them probably then they went away for 2000 2001
They came back the msrp was 25 grand
Um, and then you know once the collectors caught on to them. They got real expensive. Yeah the last eight years
Don't forget. They got they got real cheap too for a minute. I mean there's there was a time
When you could get them for like $10,000. Yeah, very true. Um, they were getting fucking stolen
All over the place
Uh
Okay, two car solution help, please
I want to get rid of my suv and get a smaller car that's fun and still reliable
My second car is a lightly modified 128 i with higher miles
Uh
Fun and still reliable
I mean yatta
Well, well a smaller car it shouldn't be smaller than the second car
It should probably be a little more practical than that. Oh, it's instead of the suv instead of suv
I'm guessing it should be a sedan or hatchback of some kind
Well without knowing a budget here
um
and I mean
I mean your obvious answer is a is a gti
Or some kind of hatchback type thing
Uh, I mean it's hard. We have no budget. So we have a high mile 128. Oh wait. Is that oh budget overall is 40k
Oh, that the oh, I'm sorry. I did that. I thought it was an issue that made it look like that was the next person's username
Okay, sorry. We have options here. Sorry. Thank you
Option a get a civic si and use the extra money for a refresh on the 128 i
So i'm more confident using it more often that sounds like a good smart plan
Option b spend a little more on a gr corolla or used m2 40i
And still use the 128 i on special trips
Well the m2 40i, I think I think if you had an m2 40i you would never drive the 128 i agree. I agree
That's that it validates that. Yeah
um
Yeah, no, I think what if you got a gr corolla and then did a partial refresh on the 128 i
Because I'd rather drive no commuting civic si is a nice commuter car. Yes, it is
It's real comfortable a better commuter car than the corolla actually. I think it definitely is. Yeah, I think it's longer wheelbase
It's quieter for sure good seats. Yeah, good shifter. Yep. Yeah
That's a really good car. You might honestly if you got a new if you got a civic si
You would probably find yourself driving the 128 less
I don't here's the here's the only thing I'll say about the civic si that might not be the jam
If you go up big mountains, it's not very fast
Whereas the corolla is like pretty fast like true if you're if you're if you live in a pretty flat ish area
The extra power doesn't really make a difference
But in upper big mountains, colorado, something like that the corolla's power would make a difference
Thank you for the thoroughness of your question though. I'm sorry. I doubted you initially
Uh, we've already solved that problem
Trav hit me
Um thoughts on the seiko roto call. It's a it's it's a somewhere between a seiko and a g-shock
I think it's cool. I'm not into digital watches that much
Um, I think it's cool looking
It's it's octagonal. It has a cool bracelet a metal case
Um, I I think it's a nice looking watch actually if you're into digital watches
I think the three color profiles are cool. Um, the bracelet looks an awful lot like the bracelet on the canyon. Yeah, it does
Um, yeah, no like I have nothing negative to say about it. I am just not that into digital watches
Um, I got into watches for a different reason. I think it's got some some panache
Yeah on the bezel despite being a digit a digital watch. It's good
I haven't held one, but it does it does look cool
Last one and then we're done timay says
Is there a price point where a depreciated bentley bentega becomes an appealing use luxury value?
I think yes, of course. Fuck. Yeah, dude depends on
Reliability how much you have to spend on repairs all that stuff ideally extended warranty situation
I mean if you this you get a low mile used one for a buck and a quarter
That's nice. I'd rather have a bentega than an urus
Probably and I think I'd rather have a bentega than a really fast than a cayenne turbo gt
I don't need a super car. I don't need my suv to be a sports car. Once I'm inside the bentega
Yes, I don't like the way they look but from a for a thing to drive and commute in and cover long distance
I think they are almost unbeatable by the time we go outside of this show
There's likely going to be one in the driveway allegedly allegedly
This has been the ultimate rescheduled press loan with the new bentega speed. I don't even know what color it is
But yeah, dude. I mean look towing I wrote in my piece for road and track
You know you you can get
W12 bentegas with low miles for like 85 90 thousand dollars
And that's a pretty good and you dude. You can tow 6,000 7,000 pounds with these things like
There is an argument that that is a better deal than like an f150 or something platinum. Yeah, you know
Because it's dope the rest of the time too
Um, all right, that's our show
Um, by the time this goes up to the public, uh, the roof rodeo video will be up. Yes
Uh, yeah, are we are we putting that on hold or pausing that for turbo? Oh, we are okay turbo s
This is jump starting root jumping roof rodeo. Yeah, so the turbo s video will be up on the 28th
article on road and track as well
And um
I think that's uh, I think that's it. I think that's it. Yeah, I'll be that's it
I'll be in korea and then I come back and you go away. Fuck. Yeah. Have we figured this out? Yeah. Yeah, we did the math
Right, that's why we're doing these things. Right. Okay. Cool. Oh, and then um, yeah, and then we've got wobb coming in from bring a trailer
So patrons can put your questions up there. That'll be fun with rob deets. All right. Thanks boys and girls. See you later. Bye
About this episode
Elon Musk's recent earnings call ignites a lively discussion about the struggles of electric pickup trucks, with insights from automotive content creators Chris Harris, Sam Fane, Jason Fenske, and Jack Holmes. The episode features a lightning round of questions, touching on everything from the absurd pricing of automotive accessories to the quirks of various car models. The hosts share personal anecdotes, including their experiences with project cars and the challenges of travel. The conversation blends humor with critical analysis, making for an engaging listen.
2.7 stoker crank
depreciation
electric pickup trucks
electric trucks
front engine rear-wheel drive
IAC valve
intake
level two charging
MAF sensor
mass adoption
Acura NSX
Aston Martin Valhalla
Aston Martin Vanquish
Audi A6
BMW 1 Series
BMW 3 Series
BMW 5 Series
BMW M2
BMW M3
BMW M5
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Delorean DMC-12
Ferrari 360
Ford Bronco
Ford F-150
Ford F-150 Lightning
Ford Mustang
Ford Mustang GTD
Ford Windstar
Honda Civic
Honda S2000
Jaguar XJ-S
Lamborghini Urus
Lotus Elise
Lucid Air
Mazda RX-7
Mitsubishi Delica
Nissan 300 ZX
Porsche 911
Porsche 918 Spyder
Porsche 959
Porsche Cayenne
Renault 4 CV
Rivian R1T
Tesla Cybertruck
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model Y
Toyota GR Corolla
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Supra
Original notes
Matt Farah and Zack Klapman talk about Tesla's weird earnings call; EV trucks sales are not living up to expectations; a new intake that's legal-ish.
Then, Matt does 5 rapid-fire questions in Spain with some of the biggest names in YouTube: Chris Harris, Jason Fenske (Engineering Explained), Sam Fane (Seen Through Glass), and Jack Holmes (Savage Geese).
Recorded October 24, 2025 and also last week in Spain
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