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At what point through this 20-something year career

of being in the Army are you thinking about building hot rocks?

He sort of paved your own path on it and it stood out.

Like it stood out and I think it was very likable.

You could do something edgy that's over the top

and build like a six-wheeler

and it's probably gonna go for a million bucks.

But to build something like that

that is so universally liked

and to hit that kind of number is impressive.

The fucking nozzle is the ID of the nozzle,

that goes around your mouth, is undersized, right?

So you try to slide the tube in.

What the hell are we talking about?

Did you flip it?

Yeah, I tried it on every end.

It just rolls the plastic back

and you can't get the dart to set.

So you have to blow the shit out of this.

What the hell are we talking about?

I know you said you were gonna buy one.

I didn't realize that it didn't work.

Yeah, I bought it.

You're listening to another episode of Oil and Whiskey.

You know, I slowed that down just so you know

it's Oil and Whiskey.

I liked it.

You didn't?

Nice delivery.

I appreciate it.

Been working on that one.

Really rolled off the tongue.

I've only taken four fucking years to get there.

This week we have Chris Stafford from Stafford's Garage.

You all the way up from Mississippi.

Yep, we drove up 13 hours.

Man, I'm surprised after that Barrett Jackson success

you didn't fly in on your own private jet.

I was like, I was expecting to land

a helicopter in the yard.

Well, we got paid to build it, but it wasn't ours.

Still.

Yeah, that's a cruise.

We appreciate you making the trip, man.

It's good to have you.

We've been trying to put this together for a long time,

so nice to have you in house.

Build some ripper stuff.

You know, obviously we're going to get into the truck

that's made waves.

It made waves and shook the industry up when you built it

and then it continued as it went and sold.

But we're going to get into the story

about how this even got started.

After we get into this bottle,

that Chris was so nice to bring.

They brought a nice.

It's good stuff.

That's going to be your favorite part.

It's a good looking bottle.

Very cool.

I haven't had anybody try that

and they said they didn't like it, so.

This is a Mississippi bourbon.

I thought it was, but apparently it's not.

It's a mixed deal.

It's it's a cocktail.

It's an old fashioned fashion.

Made with buffalo trace bourbon whiskey.

He shouts bitters and caramel color.

There's a lot on the back.

Read all that.

That's what we'll be here.

We'll be here all night.

Get that out.

Let's just drink it and formulate our own opinion.

Yeah, yeah, I know what you guys think.

I love it.

I like that bottle shape.

I agree.

Fits nicely on the shelf, too.

Yeah, it does.

That's the bad part is when you start to get to, you know,

a few bottles and you start trying to organize things.

And then that one person comes out and tries

to be cute with that one.

That's like an inch taller than everything else.

Well, that shit doesn't fit.

It is quite each Taylor's about the worst.

But you can see it's the tallest ones back there.

Well, then you move your shelf antique stuff

that just screws you royally.

You move your shelf up and then everything else

looks like shit because it looks lost on the shelf.

Or then it doesn't fit on the next shelf up

because it made that too tall.

The worst, though, going down this tangent

is birthday bourbon because you cannot line that up

with anything unless you have a dozen birthday bourbons

to do a shelf by itself.

Subtle flex.

But I do not.

I do not.

I said, I wish.

Half a dozen probably.

I wish.

No, they just, you know, it's such a weird shaped bottle.

They just get there.

It does.

Yeah, it's a good front row.

It is a good front row.

I'm going to knock that over.

Oh, that's good.

It's nice and chilled too.

That's perfect.

That actually tastes like a great old fashioned.

Does.

Not too sweet.

Very good.

Yeah.

That's what I said.

It's a nice old me.

It's a nice change of pace.

We had some high proof stuff here recently

that yeah, put a little hurt on you.

Even that, that bourbon we were drinking last night,

the Predictum, which was great, but it's crazy smooth.

But did it just burn the fuck out of your chest going there?

I thought I was kind of turning into a lightweight.

It was like taking real smooth and then like right

about the time it got about here, just caught on fire.

I think it's the it's the oak because it's so dark

and it's 15 year.

I think it we learned that on the last that distillers

podcast that it's the sometimes it's not the proof

that it was like that that much wood.

Got it.

But yeah, it's got a little bit of a nice drinker though.

It's really flavorful.

This is good though.

This is like you said, it's a it's a good cocktail

and you don't just screw it.

It's the perfect temperature.

You don't screw with ice in it.

That could be dangerous that way, that temperature.

I'm assuming it was outside in the car.

Yeah, that's where I was going with it.

Yeah, it's 26 degrees outside.

Yeah, it's really good.

Dry ice in the bottom of it.

So you are currently still serving in the military.

Yeah, I'm army army.

I'm a reservist now.

I was full time and I gave that up to do the job.

So when did you join 2005?

How old were you?

I was 17.

What made you want to join?

Grew up dirt poor, not many options,

but there was still always that it was like a seem

like a prestigious thing.

It's like that's something I can do.

It's pretty solid.

And you know, every kid grows up,

it wants to be a hero.

Everybody wants to be Spider-Man or Batman.

And that's like the closest thing

you can get to in the army.

So give me a sense of purpose early on.

Like I said, I grew up really poor.

So we're in a ton of options for me.

We actually lived in the projects at one point

when I was growing up.

Like I said, so it helped me figure out

who I was and all that.

How'd you pick the army?

Well, to be honest, I was trying to join the Marine Corps.

Because growing up, I thought that was the most prestigious

thing to do.

You know, be a Marine, that seemed real cool.

And I was actually still in high school

dealing with a recruiter.

And I'll never forget him.

His name was Staff Sergeant Jolly.

I always thought that was kind of goofy for a Marine.

You didn't tell him that.

No, but no, I talked to him.

And then the army recruiter was just

like breathing down my neck.

And I was like, you know, well, what do you have to offer?

And then the Marine Corps recruiter

didn't really have a lot to offer other than you're

going to be a Marine.

I was like, that's cool.

Well, the army is going to give me a bonus.

And they're going to let me pick what job I want to do.

And he's like, well, they either want a bonus or be a Marine.

So well, I guess I'm not going to be a Marine.

I want that bonus.

Yeah, you know, like I said, a poor kid coming up.

Yeah, I'll take that bonus.

So that's how I ended up in the army.

How quick, if it ever did, how quick did the mystique wear off?

And you're like, oh, shit.

I wasn't anticipating this.

Or did it ever?

It might not have.

I had a moment in the airport, you know, because I wasn't.

You weren't expecting anything in the airport.

But like when I'm 17 years old, I'm in the airport.

Never flew anywhere before.

I was my first plane ride.

And I'm like in the airport, kind of chilling,

trying to take everything in.

And then a drill sergeant comes out of nowhere,

stop talking, lock it up.

And I'm like, I'm ready for this.

Well, I'm not there yet.

We're pre-gaming.

We're not even there.

I didn't even start it.

Where were you headed?

I was headed to South Carolina, Fort Jackson, South Carolina.

So I was flying from New Orleans to South Carolina.

We landed in the airport.

And that's where that happened at.

And I had already kind of met a buddy that was also

from Louisiana.

And naturally, me and him getting in trouble

for talking right off the bat.

Me and him were doing push-ups in the airport

before we even made it to basic training.

That's quite the reality check there, huh?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

How hard was basic training?

Uh, I don't know.

I kind of got some good advice before I got there.

But it was probably one of the biggest learning

experiences of my career, overall, looking back on it.

Especially once I became a leader in the Army.

But I actually got in trouble for fighting.

Early on?

Yeah.

It was easy up until that point.

Because all I had to do was stay out of sight, out of mind,

check my boxes.

Don't be this nail that sticks out.

And I couldn't.

And I didn't get messed with.

But we're in the Bay one night.

And this one of these kids is jumping up out of his bed.

And we're like, where are you going?

He's like, I'm going downstairs to the vending machine.

And I'm like, oh, no, dude, we're not doing that.

We're not doing that.

That drill saw is not coming up here.

We only get like four hours a piece every night.

Anyway, I tried to stop him.

He took a swing at me.

He missed.

I didn't.

So I was on extra duty and shit these days

over like three weeks.

They were going to kick me out of the Army.

And yeah, it came down to a basic rifle marksmanship.

And when you get to basic training,

if you've always grown up in a small town or in the country,

you realize really quick that your little piece of culture

is just a very small piece of the world.

And there were people that had joined the Army

and never held a rifle before.

So I'm slated to get kicked out of the Army.

And our first sergeant that was there was like super pissed

because nobody could qualify.

Because during that time, it's the G-WAT rush we called it.

Oh, yeah.

So everybody's joining the Army or whatever.

You know what G-WAT is?

Yeah.

It's a global war on terror.

Yeah.

G-W-O-T.

So you have people from everywhere, guys and girls

that never held a weapon ever, much less fire one.

So he found out that me and another guy were from Louisiana.

And the Army's all about numbers,

all about matrix production, like a corporate type deal.

I mean, at the leadership level, they

want to know how many people did you qualify today

and this and that and the other.

So our first sergeant is getting pissed

because nobody's qualifying.

Well, I'm over there on ammo detail.

Like my thumb is all from packing magazines.

Load of mags.

And at this point, we've been on extra duty

so long the first sergeant's like, where are you guys from?

You know, he starts talking to us casually, which is weird for us

because we'd only been getting yelled at.

So we just tell him, like, hey, I'm from Louisiana.

And my buddy tells me, I'm from Louisiana, too.

You guys could probably shoot, huh?

You're damn right, we can shoot.

So he's like, are y'all on chapter status?

Like y'all are getting chaptered?

I'm like, yeah, I hit a kid in the face.

I killed him, yeah.

He's like, OK, I tell you what, if you guys can group zero

and qualify in one try, you can stay in the Army.

I'm like, I can do that.

I know how to shoot.

Was this 100 yards?

So it goes 50 all the way out to 300.

So you got a couple of targets at 50, 75, 150, 200,

all the way out to 300 yards.

What are you shooting?

And you're shooting an M4.

So which would be the civilian equivalent AR-15.

Was it ACOG or Irons?

Ironsites in basic training.

You don't get anything fancy until you get to your unit.

So they make sure you can actually shoot first.

So but yeah, we did it group zero qualified.

And then we were in the Army.

Just like that.

And yeah, like the rest of that guy's name

was actually Private Love.

The guy hit.

And he was that guy that was always getting in trouble.

So he was in another platoon.

So his drill sergeants would threaten him with me.

Like, hey, we need to get Stafford over here, straighten you out.

Whoop your ass.

That's a tough one to live down.

So yeah, I never lived it down all the way through the end.

You think in the Army they'd have, I mean, appreciate that.

Learn how to harness it, right?

I mean, you want what tough fucking dudes, right?

The Marines would have been happy.

They'd have been like, oh, yeah.

So that's another funny part of it.

I went in to get like read my article 15.

And the first sergeant's like, you got anything to say

for yourself?

And I'm just like.

If he does, he does.

I'm so pissed because I'm like getting kicked out of the Army

for fighting, right?

So I was like.

Permission to speak freely.

He's like, say what you want.

Doesn't matter.

You getting kicked out.

I was like, damn it.

OK.

Well, personally, I think it's bullshit.

I'm getting kicked out of the world's most violent organization

for fighting.

And then like everything that was in front of him in front of him

on his desk, like he just like throws everything gets pissed.

Coffee cup hit me in the leg.

I was like, he's like, get out of my sight.

I don't want to look at you.

So then I go in there and get read my article 15.

But.

He's a tough start.

Tough start, man.

He'd probably be surprised to know I did 20 years

and I'm my 21st year now.

So it worked out.

It's quite a run.

You deploy at all.

Yep. Where you been?

What are you done?

So right when I come home from basic training,

that was after Katrina hit.

So then we're in New Orleans doing stuff.

Not a fun time.

Yeah, I was down there for like a year.

Really?

So.

Where I see my first dead body and I mean, it made me.

It made me grow up pretty fast.

So.

Where you start to realize like how quick life is over,

you know, because we were doing a lot more than just.

Like humanitarian work in New Orleans.

I mean, we were like substitute in N.O.P.D.

that had evacuated and didn't come back.

They didn't have anyone to police the city.

So we're like chasing murderers and drug dealers

and 17, 18, 19 years old.

I mean, I mean, those are always opportunities

for people to sort of disobey the law, right?

I mean, riots and looting and everybody

capitalizing on sort of the downfall of civilization there.

Did they do that?

I believe so.

If I remember correctly, this is a long time ago.

I just watched that recent documentary

like three months ago on the whole deal.

It's like six episodes on all of Katrina.

It starts. Wow.

That's the first thing I ever did, like the big thing.

But of course, I've been to Afghanistan.

I've been to Haiti after the earthquake and all that.

And I don't know, I've been all over the place.

When you're when they're doing humanitarian work,

like it in New Orleans at Katrina.

How are they divvying up responsibilities

between, you know, Air National Guard, Army, Marines

and like who's responsible for what with that many different

units and divisions on the ground?

So it really just boils down to that units.

Like what is their specialty?

Like you have engineering units, but you have vertical and horizontal.

And by that, I mean, like some people stand up buildings

and some people do dirt work.

You know, you have a unit that just does heavy equipment operation

and you have a unit that builds buildings and then, of course,

you have infantry and then you have, you know,

all the different variations of jobs there are in the military.

But a lot of times a unit will be dedicated to like engineering

or infantry or military police as support or support role.

Yes. So they'll do that particular part of the mission.

And overall, that's how you end up with like a task force

where you got National Guard, state police, active duty,

Army, Marine Corps unit and then a Navy unit

or an Air National Guard unit.

So they'll bring all of them together

and everybody will have their little piece of the pie, you know?

So that's that's how they divvy all that up.

Does everybody get along in those situations?

Uh, it just depends on what branches it is.

We're all jealous of the Air Force because they got the best shit.

They get the best shit.

We're like, we're sleeping in a tent. They're like a tent.

What's that even look like?

Tom Cruise, we're all like, you know, sleeping in the worst conditions.

And, you know, we don't have anywhere to wash our clothes.

And these guys are like, where'd you get a martini?

Oh, yeah, they're passing them out of the Air Force at the base.

We all get martinis.

Army Marines, we actually contrary to popular belief

in Afghanistan, I was on a base and it was a Marine Corps base.

But we're Army Marines.

And we actually all got along pretty good because you're when you're there

in the suck together.

Yeah, there's no time for fighting amongst each other.

Yeah, well, crap. So, uh, yeah.

But then we all still look smug at the Air Force when they walk by.

When did you first find out you're headed to Afghanistan?

Oh, I volunteered.

I was slated to go to Kuwait and I was like, nope, fuck that.

I was like, if I'm going to be somewhere that I don't want to be for a year,

I'm going to be doing something.

Please make it exciting.

Yeah, I was like, so I completely changed MOS's and everything.

And I had kind of gotten the favor of our battalion commander.

And he was like, what do you want to do?

I was like, not good at Kuwait.

I'm like, and sit on my thumbs for a year and be bored of shit.

I mean, that'd be like the longest year of your life.

Yeah. So he's like, well, there's a multi role bridge company

going to Afghanistan. You want to go?

I was like, yeah, I'll do that instead.

So what year is this?

I mean, is this pre or post 9-11?

This is 2000 and 11 when I volunteered because you get noticed.

It dates way mixed up.

Yeah, you get noticed 2001.

Yes, crazy.

It's a long time ago.

You get noted.

You get noticed like a year out and then we were actually in Afghanistan.

2012 came home in 2013.

What was your what was your specialty in Afghanistan?

So in Afghanistan, I was a 12 Charlie, which is like it's called a bridge crew

member, but essentially you are a combat engineer that specializes in bridging.

So temporary or rebuilding all of it.

OK, so literally like demo.

So you have to know that combat engineer is just a demolition specialist.

So you learn all of that and then you do additional training

and learn all the different types of bridges and how to classify a bridge.

How to determine whether or not a place is suitable to put a bridge in place

and how to fix bridging and how to launch a bridge across a gap and all that kind of stuff.

So that's actually what I did over there.

And then when I got there, I ended up being put in charge of

engineer recon team, which we would go out, look, you know,

how do you had like stole pieces off the bridge to build some shit?

You know, and then at that point, the bridge is compromised.

So we have to go fix it because we need the bridge to move around.

So me and I had like three dudes and we've like fly to all these

different bridges in Afghanistan.

We're the only unit maintaining every bridge in Afghanistan.

So me and my guy would just hop on a helicopter and go there.

And we'd ride out with like some Marines or SF dudes that pull security for us.

And we would just we would do all the engineer stuff.

So we'd like see what the water speed is under the bridge and check

the abutments and make sure the dirt's not eroding from under the bridge.

Check it out. And then we go back, put a plan together.

And then one of our other platoons would go out and actually do the repairs.

So that's what at that point in time, you're all you were doing more

building and shoring up than you were doing demo work, right?

Because you're trying to open up the modes of transportation versus early on,

it would have been shut them all down. Right.

Yeah. Circle them all in. Yep. OK.

So we fix the bridges, they tear them up.

We go back out and fix them again.

And and then during a month of that time,

I actually got pulled by the unit that come in and was over us.

And I was also really good at communications like electronics and stuff.

So their person that was over that had just done three years on the drill

sawing trail and was like rusty, you know, technology is a use it or lose it type thing.

So they had me train them up and then they sent me out with an ETT team

where I actually got to be part of an aimed operation, Operation Southern Swarm.

So it was pretty cool.

And it was an offensive operation.

Well, it sounded cool and then we're there.

It wasn't cool. And now afterwards, it's like cool to say.

Sounds good. Good name.

Not cool because it got real, real fast. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it was it got not fine really quick.

A small arm shittered. Yeah.

Yeah, but we were like moving through a village and

you know, they've crammed explosives in a gas can and shoved it in a culvert

to try to try to get us when we're rolling by and stuff, you know.

And we actually went there and took the A&A guys with us,

the Afghan National Army, because we were trying to train them up to

police their own area so we could get out.

That was kind of the mission.

And so we're taking them there.

And these guys

they don't know anything about tactical.

They were just like, they think they're cool as shit

because they got a uniform and a gun.

And we're just trying really the goal was to train them.

But we're really just trying to not let them get us killed.

So because they like,

you know, like weed grows in the street there.

And it's it's like cigarettes to them.

So they're like high carrying their their weapon,

you know, their uniforms, not all together.

So they're like trying to get their rifle up and they're like

catching it on their uniform and shit.

Like they're just not disciplined at all.

That's they're running all AKs, right? Yeah.

And you you all had to do weapons training on the AK platform for them.

We would just teach them fundamentals.

All right. Like point at that direction.

Just safe on and off.

Breathe, relax.

Aim, slack, squeeze.

That's it, like fundamental.

All right. Like what?

But anyway, yeah, so I got to be a part of that for like a month.

So which was a break from engineering stuff.

So I got to do a little bit of both.

Some of the combat stuff, the engineering stuff.

And then I came back and actually switched to communications.

And that's what I do now.

So I'm like over the entire state and region of Louisiana.

All the aviation stuff, so all of our communication systems,

like our radios and all that stuff,

I just make sure all the units are trained on all that

and make sure they're people that are supposed to train them are doing that.

So like a desk jockey now until I get out.

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When you hear the stories of all the folklore of the bringbacks

and all the different types of things that come,

I assume there's not a lot of bring back on C4 and stuff like that.

You can't sneak that shit out.

No, if you've got that residue on you, they're him and you are.

Like if you leave the range and you've got C4 residue on you, you might get tackled.

Yeah, it'd be a lot cooler if you did.

I've got a couple little war trophies, but I don't want to advertise it.

Yeah, I get it. I think I coded it in the right way.

Oh, you think you've got something cool?

Check that out.

Yeah, you ain't getting out with no C4.

I heard if you plastic bag and then put peanut butter on the outside of it, doesn't that hide?

Yeah, I saw a movie there that did that.

I'm sure someone's trying.

If you think about soldiers in general, we have a good name, but you move up in leadership and

responsibility and then you actually think the opposite of soldiers.

If you put a Joe in a padded room with a steel ball bearing, he's either going to break it or lose it.

So we don't give them much leeway.

So yeah, I mean, it's just it's I'm fascinated with it, you know,

not having obviously ever served or been in it.

You know, I'm fascinated with it because of how much when you break it down on the on the

psychological standpoint, right? It's really just like management of people and it's just

like running a shop and it's just like the psychological part is it was more so.

It's more so.

And it's so interesting on that when you dig down in of like, you know, you've got people

like you that came from all different walks of life that joined for a hundred different

reasons, right? And in everywhere in between.

Some that was their only choice.

It was, you know, military school.

It was jail or military school of jail or this.

Hey, you're going to this is your last chance.

You're going to do that.

Then you got the, you know, the idealistic ones are absolutely.

I want to go be part of something bigger than myself.

I'm going to save the world pro America, right?

USA, 100 percent.

Then there's the ones like, well, shit, it's an option.

It beats a job, right?

I mean, my friends are going to go and everywhere in between.

And then, you know, the real life starts happening and all that stuff starts changing,

you know, the pro USA, whatever, you know, then you start seeing stuff and like,

fuck, it's a lot of fucked up shit out here, right?

You know, and it starts changing your thought.

Then there's the, you know, well, damn, I would have read the gun to jail.

Like this shit sucks, right?

And, you know, can't shoot, can shoot all the different.

Then when you get into having to train in other country's forces,

that all kind of the same thing, but they all were just like, well, shit,

this is what else am I going to do, right?

And all of these kids intermingling, and then you've got, you know,

commanders and, you know, platoon leaders that are trying to get all these wrangled up

where it's kind of like, let's just focus on shooting that direction, right?

Just quit punching your buddy, you know, and just focus on the enemy, you know?

It's so wild.

When you-

It is, dude.

I'm always sort of shocked and dumbfounded like how it works, you know, like,

when you think about, like, think about, and it almost makes me nervous as well.

Don't think about that.

Well, when you think about getting anything done that you need done,

like, you want to get your car fixed, pretty good chance it's getting fucked up.

You need your AC fixed.

The guy, the experienced HVAC technician, it's probably a 75% chance it's not getting done,

right? Like, what do you have done?

Your food is probably going to come out burnt or fucked up.

Like, there's very little successes from professionals.

You know, you go to the doctor, you end up getting fucked up.

Surgery doesn't come out right.

Now you have this entire, this entire team of human beings sort of like

defending the country.

And like, you're talking about, you're like an 18, 17, 18 year old kid from Louisiana.

And you're out there engineering bridges and building bridges.

I mean, there's like bridge engineers probably.

I don't know what you call them, right?

I don't want to sound like Roger saying that I'm a book writer, right?

There's probably, there's probably a word, but there's probably a dude who's been

designing structural bridges for 60 years somewhere.

Like, how does that come together?

The mechanics, like how do these dudes, these young kids, they put them out there to fix

trucks and equipment and like, in such a short amount of time, they become proficient in

like maintaining this stuff and being like war-ready.

And like, it just, I've never been a part of it.

It just sort of shocks me how it works, but it does.

It obviously does make sense.

Why do you think the defense budget is so fucking big?

If it was run super efficiently, whatever it would be about half that size.

Yeah, I guess it's the 60, you know, the 60 year, the 60 year old, you know,

seasoned professional that's the structural engineer, you know,

that's sitting in his office in Chicago or whatever, if he was tasked to do that project,

it'd be an 18 month long process before he even had the plans

to be able to do what needed to be done on the bridge.

Not if he was doing it himself, if he was getting a permit to do it.

He'd do it probably in afternoon.

Maybe, yeah.

But if he's working with the municipality or something, then yeah.

And then there's a, you get trained, but then you got to just keep the fucking,

if the bridge falls down next month, go back out and figure out why.

We got to worry about tomorrow.

It's just like anything else, I think.

So you can go to school for hot rod building,

but are they actually going to teach you how to build a hot rod?

You're not going to learn that until you get a job doing it.

Yeah.

And, but I think when you put a person, you give a person a person purpose,

and then you put them under pressure and they don't have a choice,

they're going to figure it out.

Like we get this bridge built, the faster we get it built and get out of here,

the faster people aren't shooting at us anymore.

That's a pretty good incentive.

You can make that bridge hold together to get everybody across it.

Yeah.

So they figure stuff out pretty quick.

But so we had a couple of years together before we actually deployed and we're

building bridges.

So we trained up, we spent a whole year getting ready.

Like they brought some civilians in, they were like bridge experts and put them with us,

and they like teach us this, the super technical parts of everything,

which we don't really care.

They start talking all that.

We don't listen.

We're like, all right, what's the meat and potatoes?

What's it take to get this thing?

More metal.

Okay, got it.

What's it take to get this thing?

How many of the bridges in Afghanistan were built to those standards?

Uh, I have to say, they're, I mean, our guys got pretty good at it.

No, I mean, like the ones that you came into.

Oh, we came in on?

No, no.

Did anything?

Yeah, they're like sitting on.

Structural integrity imply or was it?

Longboard spanning.

I think that's where the videos came from, where you take the ramen noodles and carve things out.

You know what I'm saying?

You ever seen those videos where you pack in the dry ramen noodles and carve it out like,

that's a bridge.

Fix a rusted out lower quarter like mint.

Look at that bridge.

It's so nice.

For sure.

The forehand is what I'm saying.

Yeah, you have, yeah, people that are just like hot rod building.

You got guys that are good at it and you got guys that are, yeah, doing it.

Yeah.

Talking about the hot rod building it, what point through this 20 something year career

of being in the army?

Are you thinking about building hot rods?

I actually had my logo designed while I was in Afghanistan.

And it's not because I thought like I want to open a shop.

It was, I think I built a pretty cool truck and I do it over and over again.

So I'm just going to like make this brand and put it on here.

And like, so people know that I did that.

And then throughout the years, it's just, you know, you try to pay people to do stuff

and they like don't do it as good as you want them to do it.

You were building trucks when you were in and coming back and stuff like that.

Yeah, it was built my own stuff.

You know, like I said, I never built nothing for anybody else before I was like deployed

Afghanistan or anything.

But like I had done built my truck.

I built the white and red 606010.

As soon as I came off from Afghanistan, brought it to SEMA, we were like working on it.

Like my buddy Papa, I built the chassis for it while I was in Afghanistan.

He would actually message me and be like, hey, don't make this turn into a memorial build.

Make sure you bring your ass home.

Well, where did the love for the interest in it come from?

I mean, I feel like we skipped a big step.

Oh, yeah, you're building.

You're building C10s.

You're building trucks when you're coming back from being deployed.

But like, where did that?

You said you grew up poor.

You obviously weren't growing up tinkering with cars.

Then like, where did it come from?

So I had an uncle that was really into it.

But but honestly, I can't even really pinpoint where it was.

I think it's like it's like our son, Cash.

Like if I brought him in here right now, he's going to have a little bucket with him

and it's going to have 50 freaking Hot Wheels cars in it.

And he takes it with him everywhere he goes.

He just born that way.

I didn't even press it on him, but he'll get in the bed at night,

line his cars up next to him, tell them all good night.

It's it's not even a joke.

It's serious.

I did.

I got one of those myself.

So I know.

Maybe I've just been like that.

And maybe part of it is because that was the toys I had when I was growing up.

I had dollar Hot Wheels, you know, because we were poor.

That's toys my parents could afford.

And then I had an uncle growing up.

He was kind of into it.

I actually made my 66 C10 like a memorial for him.

They called it the Sherman Special.

I had that like had my buddy pinstriped that on the glove box of it.

So I had a little bit of influence outside influence on it.

And then I would see him around town and stuff like, you know,

a low rider car would pass by because I was in the low rider cars early on.

And I still think low riders are cool, especially a well built one, you know.

So and then many trucks like I would see them in town.

I didn't know who they belonged to and then grow up and I'd get to meet those guys and

kind of get involved a little bit and then built a couple of trucks for myself.

But I don't know.

Maybe the Allure came from just not having the money.

Like there was a point when I grew up, but we didn't even have a car.

Like my mom would send me to the grocery store and I would just walk back with the bags.

Like we didn't have a car.

So maybe it come from that.

I'm really not sure.

I can't.

Maybe it was just all of it put together.

Yeah.

I mean, some people there was an experience, a sound, something you saw,

something like that aha moment, the thing that hooked you.

But some people it's just always been into cars.

Matchbox cars, it's micromachines.

Hot Wheels.

Something not Matchbox Hot Wheels.

Matchbox sucked.

If I had to pick.

Matchbox is the shittiest little car.

If I had to pick any car, any toy growing up, it was a car, you know.

And then when I come over from Afghanistan, like I had built my truck.

So it's like I didn't make a lot of money.

And then a buddy was like, hey, you should do this for other people.

So and then I was struggling a little bit when I first come home from Afghanistan.

We had a rough deployment, you know, we lost a few guys.

They lost a guy after we got home, you know, he's succumbed to PTSD.

And I probably struggled with that a little bit at first.

And it was like a therapy to me.

Like I would go out, even though my truck was done and I would do stuff to it.

And it's like that would keep your mind busy and working on something.

That'd be when I had a good day.

And I'm like, well, if I could do this every day.

Have a lot of good days.

Probably keep my mind pretty good, you know.

Oh, absolutely.

Productivity drives happiness.

And then I start listening to podcasts like Andy for Silla.

I listen to him and some of the other ones.

And they talk about how productivity.

I just did this deep dive into mental health because I just didn't want to be this.

Another statistic because we lost like four buddies to suicide that I deployed with.

So I like did a deep dive, read the Times article on mental health and

reading books about it.

And it just all leads back to productivity and being productive.

And like, yeah, you can go through a lot of trauma.

And then, but if you can find a way to still be productive,

you kind of get back to normal, you know, that's that was part of it too.

Interesting comment.

Trump says a lot of crazy shit.

Know what?

Name one.

One of his words of wisdom that he dropped in some interview

was somebody was talking about depression.

And he said, depression doesn't exist if you just work harder.

If you're so damn busy.

Yeah.

And there's truth to that.

Mental boredom, idle hands, just like anything.

If you don't have a minute to stop and think because you're working so fucking hard

or so focused that definitely there's so much truth for it because

the worst things or the worst things I've ever done in the most trouble I've ever been into

or potential trouble has been all stemmed out of boredom.

Things that you do because you're fucking bored.

Yep.

As you get.

You're like, fuck, ain't nothing else to do.

What about this?

Let's go set that on fire.

Let's do these with fireworks.

So let's do this.

Well, the mind is no different, right?

The worst things that your mind starts going to is when it's just fucking bored.

If you can keep that thing busy, thinking on stuff, building stuff,

being productive, trying to solve a problem, whatever it is, just keeping it working.

It doesn't have time to go into those dark spaces and start thinking about other shit

and get in trouble.

Yeah.

This stuff to come probably higher here and admit that.

But yeah, it was probably like that was probably where I started to go towards doing it for other

people because I didn't have money to just keep building trucks for myself.

So it's especially to the level I wanted to do it.

So I came home and a buddy of mine who wanted me to do a truck for him, Cody Barber,

and we did the Silver Fox truck.

I don't know if y'all saw that.

It's a square body GMC.

We brought it to SEMA.

It was on street trucks and CTIN's Builders Guide and all this stuff.

But that was like the first one I ever done for anybody else.

And it was really, really cool because the owner was just like, build it like,

build it like he would do it if it was yours.

You obviously had a knack for it.

I mean, there's an element of talent here because it sounds like you sort of got into this,

built yourself a truck and now boom, we're at SEMA, we're in magazines.

Pretty good like entrance to the industry there.

I mean, not a slow roll, right?

You're rocking and rolling.

You're building some cool stuff right out of the gate.

Well, and, you know, and then along that whole journey, I got into Severed and,

you know, and started going to a lot of truck shows.

And I had a little OBS truck that I built and it was got featured.

And then I sold it and built the 66.

It kind of got me more into the older stuff.

But along the whole way, I've always been like an artistic,

like I was in talented art in school.

I would get in trouble because I was always been the type too.

Like, once you've made your point, I really don't want to hear it again.

The teacher, you're still here.

I heard a little something from there that's like, oh, yeah.

I'm talking about like in school, I would get in trouble for drawing,

but it's because like the teacher would, she would go.

Yeah, I got it.

I don't want to hear it.

All right.

Now I'm in my notebook drawing a truck.

And then they would always try to play Stump to Jump.

And they'd be like, hey, Chris, what's that?

What's what's this?

And what was I saying?

And what was this?

And I would just tell them and then they wouldn't know what to say.

So they get frustrated with me.

Just got out of principal's office.

And I drew the C-10 in 20s.

Yeah, you see what I drew?

So then my teachers recommended I go to talented art to get that out of me,

you know, so I could focus in class, which it didn't.

It just made it worse.

So there's always been the art part behind it too.

Was there any structure from the army that helped you start the business and stay regimented and

grow that?

I think the army made me realize how capable I was.

Like just exactly what I could accomplish.

Because, you know, you can ask my wife, I've gotten phone calls and they're like,

hey, we're standing up a task force.

It's like during COVID, they're like, we're doing a task force COVID.

And the general asked for you by name because you can handle all these tasks and do all this stuff.

So I got good at that in the army, like being able to manage a project, per se.

And then also manage some people and a structure, structure a team, you know,

because when you think, well, I got a hundred people under me,

it seems overwhelming when you say it like that.

But when you say, well, I got four people under me and they got 20 people under them.

And then each one of them's got 15 under them.

And then you realize you only really got to deal with four people.

I learned that in the army.

So I learned how to break that down there.

And then to learn how to build a team in the army.

And like if you come in our shop, like all of our guys get along great.

And that's, I think it's because I encourage them to, you know, be friends with each other,

hang out outside of work, y'all go, go get a beer together.

You know, it's, we do that in the army and it builds camaraderie.

So if you build it with your team, if you do that with your team, it's going to apply to anything.

You got a team and they, they mesh.

I mean, it really doesn't matter what the task is, they're going to get it done

because they enjoy working together.

And I think I learned that in the army.

Yes.

Yeah, I definitely could not have employees had I never been in the army.

Because it's definitely a, there's definitely a curve to, to learn,

to deal with people working for you.

You make them do push-ups or is there fun laps?

No, so I tell my wife all the time too.

I'm like, I can't handle them like I can handle soldiers because soldiers can't quit.

Like I can smoke the shit out of a Joe.

But he's still got to be there at seven o'clock.

You don't like it?

That tough.

This dude's got fucking 200 other shops he could reach out to in the morning.

You know, these kids can go work anywhere.

So that's, that's a learning curve.

That's going to be a tough dial to learning how to discipline different, you know,

like not just come in there guns blazing like, Hey, you know,

you're fucked up like a soup sandwich or something, you know, because they,

and they got a lot, these kids, younger kids, they got a lot more feelings too.

And, you know, people that brought me up were kind of rough.

So getting chewed out doesn't hurt my feelings, you know,

to where I've, it lasts for four days.

I can get chewed out right now an hour from now.

I'm back to work or over it.

No big deal.

So, or you remember it too.

Like at least for me, like you took, you took something out of it

rather than turning it into a negative.

Like you're, you'll always remember to not fucking do that again.

It's got to hurt.

I don't respond to the, Oh, everything's going to be okay.

It's like, Hey, we'll be in a bitch.

If you didn't get electrocuted when you shoved a fork in a damn socket,

I just shoved a fork in a socket all the damn time.

Yeah.

That's fucking cool.

Look at that.

You get, it's got, you got to have consequences.

It's got to fucking hurt for you to realize not to do it anymore.

You're talking about, you're in the truck scene, you're building trucks,

you know, you're in severed, you're, you're in Afghanistan in 2012.

How are you consuming your media, your truck media?

Is it magazines?

What magazine specifically?

How are you getting them?

That's cause if you've got that fire and you wanting to like see what the fuck's going on,

like how are you doing that?

So, uh, by the time it come along, like by the time I made it to Afghanistan,

they had stood up like internet structure for the little forward operating base we would,

we would live on, you know?

So I did have internet, it'd be like Facebook and then, but I don't think that,

I don't think our culture was so saturated in social media.

We were still in 2012.

We were still, uh, street scene mag and, uh, 67 to 72 trucks.com.

That was a big one for me, uh, the forum.

And, uh, that's why I learned about Dino and Delmo.

I kind of, you know, follow all their builds in there, uh, hence the 60 to 66.

I mean, I really liked the trucks, uh, and it probably come from like, uh,

you know, the first truck Delmo built, you know, and, uh, you see that stuff in the forums

where you had to like go make a, uh, what was the damn photo bucket?

And you had to like copy the link and killed all the forums to put the links in the, uh,

in the forum.

So you could see a picture with what you got going on.

I think that finally deleted my account.

Did they get notices for 14 years?

That's, that's still, they'll have to, they'll make a documentary about that one day because

that literally, the worst decision that single-handedly changed the automotive industry.

They killed it all.

And I mean, it propelled everything to social media, Instagram mainly, um, overnight by photo

bucket, you know, deciding, I guess we're going to charge you guys a lot right now.

Maybe Instagram spot it.

We could have, could have absolutely been a thing.

It's, uh, yeah, it killed the forums.

But yeah, it was that.

And then the guys would still mail me magazines like my buddies back home.

They're like, what do you need?

We'll mail it to you.

So, uh, we would get packages in the middle and I'd have trucking magazine and street

trucks magazine and hot rod magazine and anything I wanted.

You know, somebody would mail it to me, you know, so we could still get, get stuff we wanted

or needed.

And that's, if I had downtime, that's, that's what I was doing.

I was on a truck full arm or, uh, in a, in a porta potty at 140 degrees in Afghanistan,

reading a magazine.

That's it.

I can shit.

Maybe like, how can you sit in that porta potty so long?

I'm like, I was reading a magazine.

Forgot about it.

Keeping that mind busy.

Right.

Yeah.

You keep your mind busy and you can put up with a lot of shit.

Literally.

So at what point, uh, did your mind start thinking about doing this for a living?

You said your buddy said you should do this and, and charge people for it.

Does that straight into, I'm going to do this on the side or hey, I need to have a

shop.

What's the propelling thing of like, I gotta have a, I gotta have employees.

I gotta have a brick and mortar.

Like I need to do this.

So, uh, at first I was like, you know, I could just do this on the side and, um, you

know, there's no body around where I'm at that really has a shop doing this, you know,

and then I watched TV and I'm like, well, you know, Dave Kendig isn't the one doing

all the work or, you know, chip foods designs cars, but he ain't always the one doing

the body work and doing this and doing that.

So I'm like, I don't really need a shop.

I just need some people to help me bring my ideas to life.

And like with silver Fox, the first truck that, uh, that I bought built for someone

else and took to SEMA.

It was more of a like project management.

Like it was my idea.

Um, my buddy Popeye did all of the sheet metal work, all the chassis work.

And then another friend of mine, Mo did all the body work and, uh,

I'm Mo that's a fucking team.

So, uh, they, they would do that part of it and I was just kind of in there as the

designer, like, all right, they'd be like, Hey, Chris, what do you want this to look

like?

And I'm like, well, this is kind of what I'm thinking or I'd have an idea.

Um, but along the line, I did pick up the skills.

Like I can do body work.

I can paint and I can weld.

I can do just about every, I can even do some upholstery work.

I learned that in the car.

I worked in a car audio shop in high school.

Um, if it didn't have to be so that I could do that too.

So in the beginning, I just did whatever it took to get the project done.

And it was like fulfilling for me because they wanted some, someone local to me wanted

this done, but there was no one local providing this service.

Like there was no one here to do it.

They'd have to ship it to this state or that state to get it done.

Um, so I kind of picked up on that and I was like, well, I'll just keep doing it on the

side and see where it goes.

And I finished one, I finished one truck and I'd have like three people hit me up like,

Hey, uh, what would it take to get this car, that car built?

I have this old car that, you know, whatever.

So then I just started getting phone calls and phone calls.

And I continued to do it on the side for a long time.

Um, and then along the way, I had people tell me like, that's stupid.

You need to just keep your job, do that on the side, whatever, whatever.

Um, but it just came to a point to where I couldn't even go to work and not think about

everything I had going on at home.

And I looked at how hard it was to do it the way I was doing it.

And like, I don't have a shop.

At one point I worked on a guy's car for half of my rate.

So I could use the other bay in his shop to build someone else's car.

So, uh, I thought it didn't math out too well.

No, it didn't do good, but I got the stuff done and it was another,

it was like another tick mark.

You know, somebody saw that car and wanted something else.

So it led up to, I finally tackle my first like, all right, I'm going to do everything

except the bodywork and paint.

And that was the Burley Wood C10, which was pretty wild.

You pulled that up, Josh.

You got these on your Instagram?

Yeah.

I need some visuals here.

Yeah.

So you had to go back a little ways.

But, uh, it was a green 63 C10 that we built for Joe Slade.

Um, he's a really good friend of mine.

He's like family now.

That truck was like the first truck we did.

Probably 90% of the work on in, in my garage at that time I had an apartment

that had a single car garage in it.

And, uh, I would roll it in and out into the driveway.

It's just, it's doing this buffering thing.

I'm scrolling away.

It's just not scrolling as fast as I'm scrolling.

That's probably not a good picture.

That's cruising the coast in, uh, Orange Beach right there, isn't it?

It's, uh, yeah.

It's your hood.

That's the hood.

That's at the wharf.

Is that the wharf?

Is that home of the mullet toss?

No, it's down there.

Flora Bama.

Not far away.

It's, yeah, it's about, yeah, 10 miles down the road.

Yeah, that was 2019.

Yeah, it was a good looking truck.

That color with the white roof just really dead.

So we did a logo on the door.

It says Burley Woods garage.

And that was, his father-in-law gave them that truck, gave him and his wife that truck.

And, uh, so we named it Burley Woods, the truck.

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Single garage, damn.

She came in there.

There's a lot of cars out there these days

that I think were built in a single car garage.

Yeah.

Like that.

Like which one?

Well, you just didn't get far enough back to that.

For reference.

I'm a visual guy.

I need a reference.

All right.

Go, you're on Instagram.

Yeah.

Go do that.

Oh, that's cool.

So yeah, we didn't just build that truck in my driveway.

We drove that to SEMA from Louisiana.

Like we threw our bags in the back and drove it to Vegas.

That's cool.

Yeah.

That's a pretty good picture out there.

But how was that trip?

Uneventful?

Yeah.

So we stopped in Dallas.

Sam Miller did a little work on the tune

because he was running a little rich.

Was that a painter's tape front end deal for the ride out there?

No.

It's actually PPF'd.

Oh, did you PPF'd?

OK.

PPF'd the whole front of it.

For the ride out.

You know, you got to do a fix and take this to SEMA.

It's like, what's the way to do?

Show up with some dry chips.

Well, we built it as a driver.

Like the gaps on that truck are not perfect.

You know, it's painted a color that's easy to fix.

You know, and that's kind of my thing with all of them.

Like even Odie's truck is a that's a color,

like that we found in a color book.

And I did it that way so that if it gets a rock tip,

if it gets anything.

Custom blend or a three stage or a candy or a.

Yeah.

And then, you know, auto make all the manufacturers these days,

they have such cool colors on cars.

I mean, you can just grab a color off a Hyundai or something.

They got these crazy pearl base coats and stuff that look good.

Till you pull it up, it's got 11 variants.

Oh, my shit.

Damn it.

Which one?

I can't even fan it out.

You didn't write the variant number on the back of that thing.

Damn it.

But yeah, so we built that one and drove it to Vegas

and it actually got parked inside right in front of a right alley.

Well, hell, yeah.

So like right in the door, everybody that was going in there

is walking right past the truck.

And this is you got it.

This is shop.

Shop's built and ready to go.

No, still didn't have a shop.

Still didn't have a shop.

Okay.

We'll that that.

I'm we're just trying to stage things a long way.

I like I like these types of conversations where you can kind of put

vehicle builds and timelines with.

I was zip tying easy up tents together in the driveway to work on that truck.

And you're still full boning listed.

No reserve.

I would like come home, I would take off my uniform from work,

like take off just the top would be my green t-shirt.

And I still have my boots on and everything.

And like I installed the back window in that truck,

like still in uniform from work.

That's awesome.

Like she took pictures of me working on that thing in uniform.

Like as soon as I get home from work,

because we had we'd already committed to be at Seymour.

So had to be there to make it a done.

Yeah.

I think it's time.

She's she's gonna have to just come on.

Yeah, you just have to come on.

Yeah.

So we were talking about.

The green truck, the Burley truck.

Yes, the Burley which truck.

Yeah, she said that you missed out.

You missed some very key topics about that truck.

Yeah.

So you have to go way back on my Instagram to find this stuff.

But Joe, Joe bought a Joe bought an engine from a supposed reputable guy.

Which I had already thought he was kind of shady and told Joe, man,

maybe we should just spend the extra two grand and get a crepe motor from summit.

And now, man, this one's gonna be good.

Scroll up just a little bit while we're talking shit about Joe.

You see that onesie right there?

He actually bought my baby that one.

Yeah, Joe bought that for us for our son before he was bored.

Yeah, thanks, Joe.

We love you.

That's cool.

Cash with K.

That's it.

Cool.

Cash money.

Here's the first name's actually Christian.

Yep.

I've got I've got June and Cash at home.

Oh, really?

You got a kid named Cash?

No, I got two French Bulldogs named June and Cash.

Well, that's your kid, though.

A.K.A. A.K.A. Pretty Pretty Princess.

Pretty Pretty Princess.

No, my son's name's Blaze and my daughter's name's Maddox.

What's Cash?

What's his nickname?

Just Cash.

It's not Sweet Little Boy.

No.

Cash.

Pretty Pretty Prince.

Fat ass.

Fuck face.

Dumb ass.

And then Pretty Pretty Princess.

Shit head.

Yeah, and Pretty Pretty Princess.

All those names.

Mama's boy.

Titty baby.

I call him all innocent.

Yeah, I call him Titty Baby all the time.

Yeah.

You know what Titty Baby is.

Yeah.

Yeah, that stuff.

And he's the one that he's just nipping at his mama's heels just.

All right, I'm looking for a motor.

Which motor am I trying to find?

Yeah, you gotta go way back.

Holding it.

So yeah, like we get, I'm like Joe's vouching for his motor.

So he says it's good.

So we painted.

Jesus Christ.

Can we keep going?

Yeah.

So we painted it up.

It's not, it's not even on.

It's not even on.

Nobody else would say that.

A-Sex sells, you know.

Yeah, it does.

There's a trans in a box.

I just, now I know.

I just gotta, I gotta scroll down deeper.

I gotta keep going.

Look at what's going on here.

I thought this was a business thing.

This is like, uh.

Can we dim the lights?

This is really good.

Better not be recording.

Wow.

This is a safe place, right?

Of course.

I'm just telling you right now.

There's no judgment here.

How many, I'll go up to the top.

How many followers do you have right now?

Oh my God, it's so annoying.

You should go.

20 something thousand.

Okay.

Okay, no, I thought you were talking about like

when he posts shit like that.

Instagram goes psychic.

That's my little one car garage.

I wonder why.

And I'll tell him not to do that.

He doesn't listen.

Target marketing right there.

I'm just telling, I'm just telling you right now,

for all the listeners,

because they're wondering what the fuck's going on, right?

Because they can't, they can see all of us

and then they can see us looking here.

They can't see what we're looking at

until I pull it up there.

Okay.

So everyone's like, what the fuck's going on?

I'm just saying, you might want to go follow

Stafford's garage and go ahead and just, just scroll.

That's going to be one of those that tomorrow morning

or tonight, there's going to be that creepy

RS hot rod Rick follow request.

At 1.36 a.m.

He's going to like a picture from 2016.

Oh shit, shit, shit.

All right.

What motor am I trying to find?

What are we looking for?

I forgot.

They're looking for like the picture.

Seema's what's got to be before that.

They're looking for the picture of like,

all the spun bearings in the motor.

There you go.

Right there.

Top right.

Right there.

Yeah.

So that's, that's what, what's the date on that?

It doesn't have a December 3rd, 2019.

Okay.

So, and then you scroll to the next day.

The next day we were in the truck, headed to Vegas.

December 6th, 2019.

What was the fix?

Did you rebuild it or?

We rebuilt the engine at night, like overnight.

And then put it back in the truck and got in it

and drove it to Vegas.

Wow.

Yep.

Great shot there.

It's a pretty bold move.

Rebuild the motor at night, get in the car in the morning

and hit the road.

Well, that's not, I didn't have a shop yet.

So, I'm, I have anything to lose.

I was like, we're, if we're going, we're driving it.

Oh, you got, this is, this is, this is recap and after the trip from Seema.

Yeah.

That's your post in this stuff after you've gotten back.

That thing sitting in some little dirt track dudes shot.

I see the race car in the back.

That's my buddy Cody shot.

Yeah.

Those fucking dudes are used to rebuilding motors like in between.

Yeah.

In between races behind the trailer.

They say Gerber on it.

It says Barbara, Barbara, Barbara.

I was going to say, you could have just told us about the spun bearing picture

instead of scrolling all the way back.

But then as we got closer, I'm like, yeah, it was worth the trip.

I'm not going to scroll all the way back up

because I know we're probably going to have to come back.

So yeah, whatever.

I'm going to, but we're going to preface this.

When we end this, I want to talk about how many followers there are.

And I'm going to urge everybody out there to go ahead, give it a follow.

But more importantly, give it a, give it a scroll.

Just give it a scroll.

Give it a scroll.

Yeah.

Go for a look in the motor.

Whatever.

Or other things.

There's all kinds of pictures that are on there for everybody to.

I'll give them a picture.

WCW.

Is your stuff private or is it public?

No, it's public.

It's public.

I'll show you off.

My woman crush Wednesday.

So when was the first when we still haven't gotten to when like I need a shop.

Okay.

So we moved houses.

She's like, I want a baby and they can't live in your two bedroom apartment with your one car

garage.

Based on all those pictures.

I mean, yeah, working on making a baby.

There's a shit ton of practice.

So anyway, we moved to another house and it had a two car garage.

So I'm like, cool.

This even makes sense now.

Stafford's garage.

So we worked out of my two car garage.

Like I said, still on the side, not doing it full time yet for a while.

Cash.

Yeah.

The army messed up and gave you three months.

So the army messed up and gave me three months off paid.

And I'm like, I got customers that want shit done.

And I told her, I said, they're going to pay him to work on hot rides to get paid.

Yeah, I was like, that's a hell of a deal.

I get to do what I like to do.

And at this time, it's just me.

There's nobody.

I don't have no help.

I told you about that defense contract and that's my fucking taxes or where they are.

Dumb shit like that.

So as long as they keep us safe.

Yeah, exactly.

So cash is born.

And then it was like a light switch elsewhere.

Yeah, I was like, I changed so much.

Really?

Yes.

Yeah, I was like a responsibility now.

We got to make sure it happened.

I was like, and then I started to think, well, I may actually be able to do this.

And then even though I'm older and I've already done a whole career,

when I say older, I don't feel like I'm old, but I've already done.

I had a whole career.

I can at least get this going and sustain it long enough for maybe when he's older.

He'll grab ahold of it.

Yeah.

Take it.

I have a 13 year old daughter.

Take it to that next level.

He had to be in a parent.

It wasn't something new, but he had a son now.

Yeah.

So that's when the light switch was.

Got you.

It's a game changer.

I looked at her at some point during that three months off and was like,

I don't know how I ever found time to even get up and go to work.

Well, and then weekends, you would hang out with us like one day.

He would ask me during like previous.

All right.

Do you want to do something like Saturday or Sunday?

Because he was awful on Mondays.

Mondays.

And I would usually say we'll do something Saturday.

So that way he could just work Sunday and Monday.

Said have a break.

Sorry about that.

Then they gave me three, then they give me three months off paid.

And I was, I was like, I'm just going to get it.

And I did.

I got it for three months.

Like I would stay inside, help her with the baby till like 11 o'clock.

But she's going to grow with two days out of the week.

Like, and then he would still be working for the army.

Like, but taking the government truck to like go drop on a drop of build off.

You're out, right?

You're done.

You got to edit that.

That's where we edit.

These are inside thoughts.

There may not have been a motor and transmission hauled in a

army or something.

Do you really like the U-Haul swap with the government truck?

Well, you don't want those engines because they're junk.

As we're talking through all this,

I'm having a hard time identifying the work-life balance.

You know?

It wasn't the same.

It was not.

There wasn't.

That's why my friends would be like,

how do you get it all done?

I'm like, well, this is my happy place to stay in busy.

So he balanced it out.

He would make a deal for one day during the week.

We would do something on one day.

That's more than most.

Yeah, that's a pretty good balance.

We did that.

I mean, we did have to give for a brief moment in the beginning

like to get everything going.

There was a period whenever he didn't see the kids that much

because he was doing what dads do.

I mean, there's been times when I passed him taking our daughter to school

during a SEMA build, but it's just part of it.

Like I'm leaving the shop and she's bringing the kids to school

seven o'clock in the morning.

No, like you're coming home from Slot L.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

Passed you.

It's amazing how you work through those.

It's been a while since any of that's happened,

but I still remember those.

Yeah, the thrash has been a while.

The thrash and the...

You needed to get home at,

you should have left at 10 and 10 p.m.

Right?

But you didn't, right?

And you're running through.

Well, at no point in time is there any hour

that's a deadline to get home, right?

It's just get the shit done.

But when it starts getting to like 6.37 and the sun's up

and you're like, oh, shit, everybody's up.

Then it's like, you know what?

I probably should at least roll through the house.

I'll clean up.

I get to see the kids for the 10 minutes

or something like that or whatever.

It's completely backwards.

It's like, why are you going to show up in the morning?

Just to say, hey.

But it's the thing that you do.

Yeah, zero balance for a long time.

She's tough.

So she...

There's washcloths in the bottom of the shower after one of those.

Yeah, I just went right to that.

Oh, no.

There's no way.

It was always like coming home, fucking pitch.

But I was always courteous about not flipping the lights on

or trying to wake her up.

You'd roll in at fucking midnight.

And that could be after like a day of fabrication,

whether you're building chassis.

So how many littles did you have?

Two.

Yeah.

You know, probably babies.

Two years apart.

Oh, gosh.

So yeah, I'd always, I'd walk in and it's like,

sort of look at the bathroom and I'm like, fuck it, dude.

Like you're so beat, just get covered in aluminum

or grinding dust or something and just...

No, the only reason I was going home was to get cleaned up.

Like, especially after, you know, you run it,

those rare times you run 48 hours,

you run more than that or whatever,

where it's just like, now you feel like, oh...

Yeah, the multi-day runs, you gotta get...

I gotta clean.

I've got to clean.

Yeah.

I'm minutes away from being homeless.

It's like under a bridge.

Yeah, it was pierced down.

He could engineer the bridge.

Yes, he could have.

Yeah.

And there were a lot of times I thought like,

I'm going to become an old man really fast

if I don't stop this shit.

Yeah.

So that was part of it too.

I'm like, I got a son now.

I missed, I was there for my daughter a lot,

but I missed a lot because of the army.

And I was like, I actually have a chance here.

I could make a living doing this and actually be home.

And that's, that was a big part of it.

I'm like, they had me slated to like deploy to Poland.

Um, take another higher level responsibility position.

And I just flat out told him, no, like, nope,

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I already had, I was already, uh, well, I didn't have 20 years to retirement,

but I was past the 18 year mark.

So, uh, which is where, oh yeah.

So what year was cash born?

2022?

Yeah.

So I hit 18 years in 2020.

Shit, what year are we in now?

2026?

2025?

So you were a team then.

It was 20.

Is it really been?

Damn.

Oh my God, it's been three years already almost.

But I'll, I'll never forget it.

Like we were at cruising the coast in Trent's condo.

Yep.

And Trent's like doing math about how much money I could make.

Well, he's like, because he's a, he's a client.

He knows what I charge.

So he was like, you can make that much money a week.

What the F are you doing?

So he kept like,

So you stayed in your army after seeing that number in your life?

No, I know.

He kind of like playing with idea and he asked me like what he thinks I should do.

Like, do you think I should try to retire?

And I told him, I said, you know, I really think that the army holds you back

because there's things, you know, when you're working that you can't get done.

Like only spills.

And what's funny about this moment?

I'll never forget it.

So the truck that we just sold right now, Mr.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's a big part of it.

Okay.

So he's family.

Like he was a client.

That's how it started out.

But he's, I almost like would honestly be like,

like Smiley recently asked me if like they called him a client.

I'm like, he's not a client.

He's family.

Right.

But anyway, aside from that, when Chris asked me, I told him,

I think that the army's holding you back, but I think that you need to call Odie.

I did.

I called Odie.

Odie had a machine shop for Odie was an army reservist also.

And he did machine work on the side.

He worked for Stennis Space Center during the day was an army reservist and had a lathe

and a welding machine on a concrete slab with no cover over it.

And he covered that shit up with tarps and he would no shit do machine jobs on the side.

So it was kind of like the same story.

So he's done been passed all that and sold his business to his kids

and they're running it now.

So I'm like, if anybody's got some solid advice for me, it'll be him.

And then we had some other friends like Trent, like she was talking about,

he's a business guy asked him.

He's like, if it makes,

Odie literally told you the same exact thing.

If it makes dollars, it makes sense.

And he's like, this is what you would make a week if you open your own shop.

Which that's not true because things happen.

Theoretically.

Employees don't come to work.

You never know.

Or something breaks in the shop.

But what she was getting at is I called Odie and he said,

man, honestly, the army is holding you back.

And that's literally what she had just told me right before that.

And there's another piece to the puzzle.

Is that truck was just like a buddy of ours that I worked with in the army.

Same job as I had.

He had just retired.

And I was like, hey, dude, you mind?

I was like, are they you're getting your retirement yet?

And he's like, yeah.

I was like, you mind if I see the like, I want to see the breakdown,

like what you're actually getting.

And he showed it to me and it was like 1500 bucks after taxes and all this crap.

And I was like, uh,

no, not doing anymore.

I called my boss on Tuesday and was like, I quit.

Because I've always been a reservist, but I was a DoD employee for him.

So I put my uniform on every day and went to work.

So I was always a reservist, but I worked for him full time.

And like I said, he showed me that and I was like, no, I'm out.

So I gave my boss a two day notice.

I quit two day.

Who that was so desirable though.

But it was and then there's something else that led up to it too.

I actually built a car for my boss's father-in-law.

The crappy part is that he also built cars.

My boss on the side and his father-in-law brought me the car instead of him.

So then he was starting to like try to make life hard at work and stuff.

And it was like drama involved.

And I'm it was so hard not to say his name on here.

Yeah, it's time and sometimes that's just the way he's going to like probably listen to this.

Well, certain things happen that happened for a reason.

It paved the path.

Everything was just going in that direction.

And I'm like, you know what the hell with it?

I'm going to get a 20 year retirement from the army worst case scenario.

I got to get a job for two years if it doesn't work out.

And then when you leave there, you're still doing it out of the two car garage at the house?

Or are you going to do a building?

Nope.

We had a building on our property that was the people we bought it from.

They were using it for a barn.

And while we were at cruising the coast that year talking to my other buddy Trent,

I was actually having an addition done on that shop, having shop doors put on it,

turning it, converting it from a barn into a shop.

And now it's a it's a full blown shop.

And we just added another 30 feet onto the back of it.

But we have a we have a nice, it's still small, but it's,

but we've got a nice shop to work in.

Ain't nothing everywhere you want it to be.

That's the curse of doing what you're doing.

That's everything that you're doing.

The next round needs to be better than what you just did.

Whether that's a tool, whether it's a shop, whether it's a build, whether it's anything,

it's just the curse.

Bear the cross.

Realize that it's going to fucking suck.

And that just is what it is.

There, if you're ever looking for the time to where you're like,

I have the shop exactly like I want it.

I have all the employees exactly like I want them.

I just built the car exactly like I wanted it.

And everything is unicorns and rainbows.

That shit ain't never going to happen.

No, never.

It's when the wheels fall.

Ever.

It's never, ever, ever going to happen.

And just, I mean, am I right?

Hot rods.

They never, they're so temperamental.

Like at the very end, like getting ready for a show.

Like something always happens.

Never, never.

No, that's crazy.

With experience, that all changes.

We've been doing this a long time.

I don't think it does.

I'm going to call BS on that one.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't care.

Yeah, what the fuck is it about the last minute that they just want to fuck with you?

Every once in a while, you get, you ever like,

every once in a while, you'll get one that just submits and just behaves.

And it's like,

Yeah, but then you fight it earlier in the build process.

Yeah, at some point, there's always, there's always struggle.

We had a 59 in Palo and it was for a very nice couple.

My ex-boss's father-in-law.

They were like great people.

They're wonderful.

And wonderful.

What I'm talking about, just great.

Cash loves them.

Yeah, my son loves them.

But they're awesome people.

And I honestly believe that that worked out perfect for them for that reason.

So like, we didn't have a ton of time and like troubleshooting and all that stuff,

because it's just like everything on that car went smooth.

And that was probably the only one that that has ever happened.

There's the, there's those cars, though, like you said, that they,

they put their foot down through the entire build from start to finish that they're saying,

you're not going to build me.

I don't want to be built.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to fight at every turn, whatever it is.

And then once that's finally, you finally, like it's like breaking a horse.

It is.

Once you find, it's like.

Then they just lay down.

The joy in that is even as bad as it was.

Like you beat it.

You beat it.

Beat it in distribution.

The feeling.

I mean, the dumb shit of like, I mean, you could go on and on and on and on.

I mean, from windshields installed, no problem.

You come back the next day and there's a crack in the stir in the windshield from like tension

or whatever you're like, well, we were here for three hours after we installed it.

You're telling me it just cracks on its own.

I've never experienced it.

It was already a bitch to put the thing in anyway.

You know, yeah, that's happened.

Whatever time like departure time is, like getting ready for a show.

Oh, I attack on like three always.

I'm like, put it on it.

Put it on.

Three years though, like I'm ready.

I'm like, and I'm now waiting on a truck or car.

Oh yeah.

We always cruise to good guys, Columbus.

Just about every year.

How is that show?

We've never been and we're actually going this year.

You should go.

Great.

Yeah.

Great show.

It's one of the shows I never miss.

I mean, I think I'm probably going on like 20 years if never miss some show, but we do.

It's close enough.

You know, it's about a six hour drive for us that we sometimes longer, depending on what

has to be 14 on the way.

And so how you do usually kind of coordinate a little like road tour with a bunch of customers.

And, you know, we'll drive anywhere from like six cars to a dozen cars out there,

depending on what we can wrangle up.

And Dave Garfield's a good customer of ours.

We built a ton of cars for him.

Good friend.

And he comes every year.

And it's funny because it's like we're on the we our relationship now.

We're pretty honest with each other.

So he always knows like what time are we leaving it?

And I'll tell him and then he's like question mark, question mark.

And I'm like, we're.

Yeah, dude.

I'm like, you know, why don't you come about 430?

How about I just text you?

Because he knows.

I mean, he knows the program.

There's always something that like you're ready to roll out the door and something just

fucking goes sideways.

It's always like the car that's been done for two weeks and ready to go.

That.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Now all of a sudden we got a problem.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

I mean, dude, we.

Fuck this.

How the radiator fall off the car?

We first got together.

Power windows don't work anymore.

That's what I was just getting at.

This damn C 10 we built, you know, step side C 10 great truck really dialed in.

I mean, I was driving the shit out of this truck like daily and it really put in some

miles on it.

Thing is so flushed out and it wasn't even like we sent it out to SEMA.

It went HP tuners both didn't even think twice like this thing is so dialed in.

It's like, dude, I would drive this from New York to California and back like without

even thinking twice about it.

Get in fucking windows won't go down.

You're like, this is the first time this has happened.

The trucks got like 2000 miles on it.

Damn power windows.

Well, it drove it drove to Columbus and back when it had six miles on it.

Yeah, that was one.

We were we were that truck was fighting us like fucking crazy.

It just didn't want to run.

We had some tuning issues and all kinds of issues had some issues with like the plug

wire routing and some stuff.

And then finally in like the final moments it submitted and it went from dyno time and

once around the block to to Columbus and back.

So it about a thousand mile road trip without a single fucking problem.

And then the SEMA in fact with no issues.

And then it's just like fuck you on the window.

So you know what?

I'm tired of working.

You got 20 roll ups and downs and out of me and that's the way they the ones that

fight you in the ones that just like surprise you.

That diesel truck.

We did that diesel crew cab and that thing, you know, we hadn't done a lot of any diesel

trucks that truck it previously.

So, you know, I'm nervous about getting to the point where it's all wired up.

We're powered up.

It's getting ready to fire.

It turned the key.

That thing just lights up and sits there and idols like a fucking brand new truck.

Well, something is going to go wrong.

Just pouring fuel out somewhere.

It just fucking worked, man.

Every once in a while, there's one little surprise you.

So you start, you got the building and that you got the

the odys truck build right then when you started the shop.

So we had the chassis.

Oh my God.

And I started we started that when I was pregnant.

OK.

Yeah.

So we so I don't do we don't do paint body, not in house.

I was working with a body shop and then had an issue with him.

Not with his work.

He just went looting tunes all of a sudden.

So ended up swapping to another body paint shop in the middle of all that.

That's strange, because you seldom see that with the paint, the paint body guys.

Oh, yeah.

A painter.

Like a reliable painter.

But yeah, we've formed.

Is it different in California when it's water based?

I'm just gonna.

I don't think it's.

I'm not going anywhere with it.

I'm staying out of it.

My plan is that when I'm ready to retire, no friends.

When the time comes, it's like.

And you think that you need to keep going to ensure that.

No, I think I'm there now.

I'm just riding out.

I'm riding out my final years.

That's like that.

It's like maxing out your 401k.

Dude, you're just spinning your wheels.

There's no reason and continuing to invest in that outcome.

I've already done the burnout.

The tires have blown.

I'm just on the rims right now.

It's in the trailer head at home.

It's the race is over.

Yeah, you don't have it.

You're not going to have any.

None of us are, though.

Yeah.

It's all right.

I'm going to rather be rather be honest.

That's my retirement.

Rather be honest and lonely.

Solitude.

Then a liar and full surrounded by people.

What's that?

You sounded just like Chris Wall again.

Oh, same fucking mentality.

So someone asked me one time, what's your goal?

What's actual retirement?

What's it going to look like?

And I was like, well, you don't know him.

But the guy, Jesse, they cut the wheels for the truck.

His dad's name is Jeff.

I was like, I want to live like Mr. Jeff lives.

I'm like, you come to the shop.

That's dad.

Yeah, dad.

That's dad.

Jesse just know him as dad.

Yeah.

Jesse's dealing with all the crap up front in the shop

and running the shop.

And then if you go there at any point in time, Mr. Jeff's just

chilling in the back, working on whatever he wants to work on.

Drives his old 59 on Apache to work.

Probably got a cooler full of beer in the back.

Always.

Yep.

If he leaves it, he might leave at 130.

You know, he, you know, whatever.

It doesn't matter what he does.

I can never see you fully retired.

You'll never stop piddling.

I won't be, but I'll be Mr. Jeff.

Like, I'll go in and work on what I want to work on.

He's on cast.

Casting around the front.

Jeff's got a completely different view of my retirement.

Jeff's got it figured out though, man.

Yeah, he does.

Yeah.

I love that dude.

I mean, you've been to his shop.

I did his home shop.

No, no, no.

I hadn't been there.

I mean, he's got a killer home shop.

Explains why he leaves at 130.

Man, he's got his wife's little like quilting area in there.

And she's, yeah, she's a sweetheart.

Like just such a solid dude.

I mean, what happened to Jesse?

Like, how'd he turn out?

It's all that craft beer and like, you know, barista shit.

You know, Jesse got a little.

They have to set up like a shop at the top.

The Porsche stuff, like Jesse got a little fancy somewhere along the way.

Yeah.

He got a little Vermont in him.

I'm not a people person really.

I'd like I would much rather be like Bear Jackson was a lot for me.

I think that comes every evening.

We went home from Bear Jackson.

There was like zero party and like I didn't even run into you there.

We texted a few times, but I know we never bumped into.

I went there during the day.

I stayed by the truck.

Talked to anybody that want to talk about the truck because I was just nervous.

I didn't want somebody to know something about wanted to know something about the truck

and didn't know or already didn't know the answer.

So I stayed there, helped him out with that.

But there were so many people there.

So like seven o'clock, I'm like ready to go.

I'm like, let's let's go get something to eat.

Let's go back to the place.

I'm done.

I'm peopled out question for you.

The guy that bought the truck.

Did you ever talk to him leading up to the auction?

He called me.

It's actually funny.

He called me, but not on the phone.

They had never met him before.

He I guess he walked by and grabbed a business card off the truck.

Picked up the phone, called me, asked me like four or five questions.

It was like, all right, it's all I need to know.

And then he's the guy that bought the truck and come to find out.

We let Barrett take the truck back in October and they did all their PR stuff.

They did their little tour with it and stuff.

And he actually saw it in the salon at the at the fall auction.

And him and his wife knew they wanted him.

So, uh, which is kind of what I figured.

Whoever wanted to buy that truck's probably already seen it and they know they want it.

Yep.

That's the weirdest thing about that auction.

It's like the guy will sit there and wear you out on every nitpicking detail.

He's bitten up to 75.

He never makes it there.

He's just wasting the time to waste the time.

It's going to drop three, four, 500,000 won't even say hi.

I won't say a word looking over.

It's just, it's crazy how that works.

Yeah, they didn't.

I don't even think they came and really looked at it a lot.

That's why I just said no a while ago because it was crazy when we went and visited them.

She told me that she had come by the truck a few times and they never saw us and I was like,

Oh, really?

It was about to dismiss us.

We were there so long ago.

I was like telling him like, okay, it's time to go.

I want to go eat dinner and they never saw us by the truck at all.

Yeah, we're there every day all day.

She and I just talked about that.

Yeah, but yeah, no, I didn't know him previously or nothing.

But you never know out there who's going to be.

Some guy was like, I'm in.

Some guy was talking all kind of crap.

He's like, I'm in up to 500,000.

I was like, Oh, great.

I was like, that's awesome.

But then he bowed out early.

It's a wild show.

We've we've sold a lot of cars there.

We do great displaying there.

You know, we go there with the rig every year.

But the people you deal with when you're selling a car,

you'll field so many questions and have so many conversations.

And you're so confident that like the dude in the mink coat

with the fucking alligator skin boots with the 250 millimeter gold watch,

he's buying it.

Like he told me.

Dude, it sounds like he's he's buying a car that we built.

And then they never bid on it.

I mean, you don't see them.

They're not on the block.

They're nowhere in sight.

And it's always the guy who buys it.

Somebody you've never told me the thing was meant.

I didn't tell them it was a fake ass watch.

They were synthetic fucking boots.

Fuck.

But it's yeah, I think a lot of people go there to entertain themselves,

to be honest with you.

Like it is.

It's a it's a it's a Disney world for them.

It's they want to take the ride.

They want to, you know, have the conversations.

They want to talk and show off.

And I mean, it's there's so many people.

There's so many cars.

I mean, half the guys that are having those crazy conversations with with you

and other builders about the stuff are also having that same conversation

with every other fucking person that's building the car.

And they're going to buy something probably.

Maybe not.

But it's just it's part that is part of the the entire spectacle that is that is

Bear Jackson and why it is what it is.

It's fun and it's nerve wracking and it's exciting.

It's if they didn't want that spectacle,

then they would just they would do online or they'd buy it and bring a trailer.

Right.

It's not.

Yeah, they they want that pomp and circumstance and we're going to go do this.

We we're going to make an experience out of buying a car.

So the feeling like like knowing your husband built like.

So the first number they threw out was 200,000.

Like I screamed.

I was like.

They scroll through your social media on the big screen there when it went through.

No.

What was what's that experience like?

You're obviously you're up on the block.

I've been there.

I know it like that happens like this and you don't even know what happened.

But I didn't even know I had those that many like emotions.

Yeah, like I didn't even know I could feel all that.

I was screaming like at one time.

It was like pretty nuts for me, you know.

I think I got some smug looks from some people that were nervous about the truck being there.

Yep.

And then it was like, all right, well, either the haters are either going to be really happy

or really bad.

And then me, it was like a almost like a validation thing.

Like I built what I think is the nicest truck we've ever done and it's either going to come

here in front of the whole world and tank or it's going to come here and it's going to do good

and it's going to look good for us.

And sure, more than anything, pay off for Odie because he's like, if y'all have ever met him,

he's like one of the most another like blessed to have him as a friend, a mentor.

He's like a great person.

I wanted to get him out at Chessie's, right?

But it would have nothing to do with you being told that you wouldn't make money

filled in these trucks, huh?

Yeah.

It's always the people from your hometown, you know, they're like their biggest hater.

Like they're so mad that you're doing something.

None of the positive motivation has ever been a driving force.

It's always the negative.

It's the one that says you can't do it.

That makes you kind of every feeling like walking off with him after like he had sold it

because the specific person we're like, wish we could just text them right now.

But that's just that's as that's it's like you got to you need to have another 100

negative comments to get to the point where when they just when they outweigh the positive

and the negatives just continue to happen or whatever, then you just the negative eventually

goes away, though.

Like you remember when we were like younger in the industry in Elgin,

everybody was like had something to fucking say.

Yeah.

You know, you go to the local cruise nights and it's like everybody had a fucking chip on

their shoulder that and the things that people say, it's like shocking.

Like, dude, you're standing right here.

You're saying that to me.

No offense.

But yeah, I had a friend that got back to me.

He was like, who does he think he is?

Richard Rawlins.

Like first off, that's that's not one of my idols.

No comment.

But no, but no, I just like doing this.

It's you've got to accept it for what it is because if we all if we all wrap this podcast up

and we all sit around and we're like, man, and pumped each other up like there's 15 people

being like, man, I do that.

I think you could do 10 fucking pull ups.

I think you can do it.

You could do 10 pull ups.

Right.

Who the fuck you try to describe our relationship.

It's not healthy for everybody.

I'm not.

No, what I'm I'm saying.

Notice he didn't touch on push ups because cousin Mikey smoked his ass.

Everybody knows that that's never happened.

It's never happened.

No, I'm not saying.

Yes.

Are we having another Coleman Alabama moment?

I haven't since y'all always want to give me shit dropping in me.

What?

How many did he?

Joe cousin, Mikey cousin, Mikey did like seven.

Yeah, I don't think I don't do him on command.

This is competition competition only.

But no, I wasn't saying that arms can barely support a wristwatch.

Let alone his upper body.

I'm undefeated.

Were you undefeated?

I am.

I am still undefeated.

Even even from Alabama.

Yes, I just always undefeated means I'm not.

I'm not saying that that's a healthy way for for friends or your peers to do.

What I'm saying is that human nature, especially for driven, creative, the type

of people that we're talking about building something, the negative of somebody saying

that you can't do something is always going to push you harder than the positive affirmation

of the front because positive affirmation.

Positive affirmation is generally coming from your core group, your friends, the people that you

trust.

So you're, you're, you're instantly what you can love them to death.

You can trust them.

You can do that.

But instantly you're like, well, of course you would say that because you know me.

And you like me and you want me to do well.

Right.

But when the outsiders, when the outsiders or even when it's in, you know,

somewhat in the inner circle, right on the outside, whatever that says, oh man,

I don't know if you can do that or whatever.

That just pushes you that much harder to show them that you can do.

Proving somebody wrong generally is more of a motivation than making somebody happy.

Making somebody right.

Like, wasn't that the best half-hab you've given in like years?

Oh, it was pretty good.

I was a pretty good feeling.

I think George Poteet's comment is still like one that should be like an all-time best.

Brain's the supreme.

You don't give a shit about winning.

I fucking hate to lose.

Hate to lose.

Yeah.

It's, yeah.

Yeah.

It's not about the accolades of doing it right.

It's when somebody says you can't do it and you definitely don't want anybody to say,

see, I told you you couldn't do it.

Yeah.

But you know what?

You need that inner circle, like a little bit of a support group.

I mean, dude, I was positive.

He's great.

We taxed it back and forth quite a bit.

Like I think I thought that I was 100% confident on anything there that that truck was doing good.

Oh, yeah.

And I made that pretty clear to you.

I think I was having some doubts.

This fucking like I can fight any Jeremy.

I hope that I was there for you.

Like, you know, I tried to make sure like, dude, I knew that truck was doing good.

It's that truck just has the look like it's in its sort of own element.

You know, it's not this like vintage lifted four by four rugged thing.

It's like we all said it when we first saw it, like perfectly bridges the gap between a street

rod and a four by four, like very elegantly, you know, you nailed it.

It's it's fun.

What you did is like it shouldn't be taken lightly.

Like it's the fucking truck is really good, man.

I mean, yeah, you really did.

I mean, the just to pull that together, the colors, the wheels, the style of it.

Like you did a hell of a job on that thing, man.

And it's it's one of a kind.

Like there's nothing else really like it.

You know, there's sort of recipes, right?

Like, I mean, we have a recipe.

We do, you know, you sort of hubcap wheel with the factory cap.

And it's, you know, maybe it's you might say it's predictable.

Like it appeals to me, but like that truck, you sort of paved your own path on it.

And it stood out like it stood out.

And I think it was very likable, which is cool to you could do something edgy that's

fucking over the top and build like a six wheeler.

And it's probably going to go for a million bucks.

But to build something like that that is so universally liked and to hit that kind of

number, to hit that kind of number is impressive.

Especially with that year make model, too, because that's that's generally not one to do

one four wheel drive build out of anyway.

And let alone that unique of a, like you said, a high end, you know,

street machine of the year, street ride of the year, you know, level of quality and style

in a four wheel drive, you know, it's completely unique.

You said like there is talking about a like a moment, like when a transition to like I'm going

to do this, when I got the opportunity to actually build that truck, because you know,

you think about build all the time, you think about stuff you would like to do.

You're like, I would like to build this car and do it this way.

And what if I did, what if I did this, you know, and I'd always thought that like

classic four by four trucks are going to come along.

Yeah.

And I haven't seen one that's built like you would build it if it was a two wheel drive.

But it's not.

It's four wheel drive.

You know, the four wheel drives, I think up to this point,

there's a lot of them out there high level.

The one Vinny did is killer.

The one that Driven did is pretty badass.

I mean, there's a lot of high end four by fours.

But to do one that's like looks like a street ride.

Yeah.

That's what's something I always wanted to do.

Like you just did it like a year early, man.

We got it's four by four of the years.

It's a new thing now.

I said when I saw it, I was like, damn, well, talk about bad timing inside baseball.

We've been pushing for it for about fucking four years.

You missed a sweet snap on toolbox by one year.

Oh, shit.

Could we get like a retroactive one, maybe?

Let's see what we could do.

I don't know.

See if we could pull some strings.

Yeah.

There's no string to be pulled.

Maybe a U.S.

Don't make a promise.

Maybe a U.S. general toolbox or something we could send.

We could probably chat GTP after a while.

Give it a little harass.

Sure, we'll take it.

It was cool to see that truck done, though, to.

It's easy to go to street ride and like you look at it and you're like,

it's not gonna work.

Yeah, that's way too pretty.

I'd never take that off road.

And then like a lot of guys go the other direction.

It's way too hardcore, but that was like the perfect blend of like,

man, that thing's really nice.

I could definitely drive that.

It's not too.

It just like hit everything right.

It was like the right amount of restraint, which we always say is like the

hardest part of building the right vehicle where everything just looks like it was.

You know, kind of tailored suit almost that it's all meant to go together.

Yeah, and I think a lot coming from y'all.

It does.

I was going to say that means a lot coming from you guys because I wasn't sure.

Honestly, it was just an idea and I wasn't sure if it was going to work.

And we've been drinking a lot, though, to say all kinds of stupid things.

I know.

I get it.

I completely understand.

Say all kinds of stupid shit.

But yeah, I think the wheels was a big thing.

Yeah, the wheels work.

It's a lot of great four by four trucks out there with the wrong wheels on them.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was like they're just big enough, like one inch bigger probably wouldn't work.

Right.

One inch smaller would have just been like, you know, I mean, the wheels are great.

But let's face it.

If you didn't have something to connect the wheels to the body like a chassis,

it would just be a body and wheels.

It would just be stacked.

They would stand next to.

All right.

I mean, let's face it.

If they didn't have the ride height.

Right.

Yeah.

What did he say?

Those little rolly things.

They've worn the gunnies.

Yeah, the gunnies.

Uh huh.

Yeah.

Um, but, but yeah, I mean, y'all offered a killer chassis since he's bought it.

And I knew if I took that chassis and did the body and the interior and the engine bay

like we do it and then I would have to have the right set of wheels.

So I think it that that was the like, I knew I had the right chassis.

Obviously y'all built a killer chassis, but then it was like there ain't a wheel on a shelf

nowhere that's going to fit this truck.

Jesse cut the wheels for me.

So hats off to George and Jesse for kind of bringing a vision to life on that.

A four by four street ride wheel.

Yeah, it looks amazing.

I remember we went to SEMA year before last.

That was when you debuted it, right?

Yeah.

And uh, we knew, we knew that it was going to be there.

It got lost though out there like they, because they kind of just stuffed it.

You know, yeah.

Well, it was right behind the SEMA sign.

That was pretty good placement.

Well, when they moved it for Battle of the Builders,

everybody's like, where's the truck?

We're just for like day two, it got moved over by the stage and it's kind of out of the,

but I remember we knew that truck was going to be there.

You know, you entered for best on RS and we're doing our, you know, we do our thing.

And I think we've probably made it extremely clear of how hard we work at that.

That's a lot of walking.

We look at everything.

We do.

We see all the vehicles, but we knew that it was on the list.

And I remember seeing it for the first time we saw it in the daytime and the three of us walked up.

And we knew of the truck and we had seen some teaser pics kind of new,

but we didn't know you, right?

And we didn't know the quality.

We didn't know anything.

It's going to be a truck on an RS4.

And I remember us walking up to it.

It was instantly like, oh, fuck.

Yeah, this hill.

Yeah.

And, and a lot of nice vehicles that they're debuted at SEMA.

You know, most of the nicest ones are on road to shop chassis, but looking at it in person,

you go over it, whatever you're like, damn.

I remember we just kept on talking about like, holy shit.

We first saw it outside.

Yeah.

It was park.

I feel like.

They were going away and had a front driveshaft in it.

Like, yeah, didn't we?

It was like something we did something.

We either closed the.

No, we had to close the hook.

Because that wicked wind.

It was like, windy as shit.

We closed.

I was like, I hate touching people's shit, but it's fucking windy out here.

And we like gently close the hood and knowing that like,

you know, a fresh car, there's could be some quirks.

So like we're very gentle than looking out at that point.

You never know.

Yeah.

I forgot.

Yeah.

It was what went when your shit.

It was that thing was just, it was amazing.

Like, you remember those times when you see something for the first time and can take it in

and it does kind of grab you that way or whatever.

And that was one of those trucks like, damn, this thing's just nice.

You keep looking at the details.

It was just, it was just one of those trucks.

And so hats off to you.

What, what, what's next?

What's in the stable?

You debuted a truck at a scene of this last year.

I feel like everybody asked you that.

Let's just, they get used to it because.

You can debut a truck and I ask you what.

Yeah, you could have a fucking top billboard chart song and nobody gives a fuck.

Oh, that's a pretty newborn.

How you have any more?

What's coming out next?

I mean, you can't have any.

Are y'all thinking of having anything?

You have anything?

It's just the way it is, right?

I'm not even done breastfeeding this one.

Yeah, cool kid.

How many more are you going to have?

Oh, you just get married and it's like, okay,

when are y'all going to have the kid now?

Right.

Yeah.

Like, what are you going to?

Shut the fuck up.

So we brought a 72 Blazer at a scene of this past year.

Yeah, white with red interior, right?

White with red interior, yep.

So we can go back up to that.

We got to scroll through the cinematics and the soft core.

Oh, my God.

We're going to try to get it to a good guy's Dallas.

What's the guy's name?

What's the movie?

The show is it?

Immanuel.

We got to go through Immanuel at night.

23.7 followers.

23.7,000 followers.

I'm telling you what now, everybody's-

No, go to CK Syndicate.

What's that got?

What?

That's my son.

54,000 followers.

But that's a total different thing.

It is totally different, but we saw that.

Yeah, I know.

Listen, I'm not calling out your followers,

specifically for the number of followers.

You follow along.

I'm getting out.

I was just saying, wait.

There's more on CK Syndicate.

What do we-

That's it right there.

The white with the red with the stacks.

That's it there.

So that's the one we brought this year to SEMA,

or this past year to SEMA.

And we'll be showing it this year.

Yeah, we're done.

In Paladash.

That's a big departure from your previous build.

Well, it's a lot like what we did before.

Yep.

Cool.

But selling a truck like ODES is not an easy task,

because it's an expensive build.

Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about it.

But that blazer right there, we actually started that

around the same time as ODES.

And it just fell in line right after.

And so that's what we got going there.

I don't know who this 719-S10 is.

How come you didn't bring the blazer?

What a stupid fucking question.

In the SEMA crews.

Oh, I answered them.

Click on it.

Did you?

I sure did.

Because I did it in 24 with Genesis,

and regular traffic on the strip

doesn't know how to act around it.

304 is not worth it.

Everyone has their preferences.

It shut the-

You're fucking stupid.

His comments on Instagram, I don't even look at it.

Should we reply to him?

Click on his profile to do this.

Oh, it's fucking private, of course.

Of course it is.

He's got a hammered duly.

But it's in another language.

Jack.

I love my princess, Sophie.

Oh, you are getting trashed.

You fucking moron.

Don't say stupid shit like that.

So why didn't you just come to and see the truck at SEMA?

Yeah.

Look at that beautiful chassis.

Good looking chassis.

I don't see any beautiful chassis.

That's a stock-ass chassis.

I thought that was what was underneath the-

No, he cheated on us.

We're not even going to talk about it, honestly.

The best thing to do is not bring it up.

But yeah, so that's the one we'll be making our rounds with

probably this year.

But we do have a 48 Chevy pickup

on a slam spec chassis that we're working on.

And then we also have a 72 in the works

that we have a spec chassis for.

Where's the 48 going to be debuted at, you know?

We're thinking about SEMA this year,

but honestly, I'm kind of just going to let the chips

fall where they fall.

And we're going to stick to our guns, try to-

We're just going to make it as nice as we can.

We're not going to like-

Oh, we're going to rush it for SEMA.

And we're going to not do this and not do that.

What if there's like a crazy debut spot for it?

Uh, hey, change things.

How nice is this thing going to be?

You're going to fuck up that work.

I mean, how nice is this thing going to be?

You don't have to show me pictures.

Just tell me on a scale of 1 to 10, how nice is it going to be?

It's going to be pretty nice.

Which one is it talking about here?

Is it Roadster Shop Booth Worthy?

Careful.

Think about that answer before you.

No, you don't just throw that out there.

Yeah, but it's going to be really nice.

Those Borla ITBs?

That is RHD.

It's like an Australian company.

But they work surprisingly well.

Cable drive or drive?

Borla still had that crazy lead time when we ordered that.

They had like crazy like six months lead time on their stack injection for an LS3.

So it was a little those cable drive or drive by wire?

That is drive by wire converted to work with a linkage.

It's pretty crazy looking.

So it's got like the throttle body on the back that actuates the

rod down through the center.

Okay, cool.

But yeah, even though it's not on a Roadster Shop Chassis,

we did not skip anything on that truck.

It's nice, top to bottom.

It looks good.

Slicked everything out.

Everything's painted and polished or chrome.

It's a good looking truck.

So but it's a 67 to 72.

And I even told Adam when we were, you know, debuting it, I'm like, it's

there's going to be so many of those trucks at SEMA.

It's it's not going to stand out the way Otis did.

Because Otis was a four by four and no one had ever seen anything like that.

Should have taken it through the SEMA crews that had got some attention.

Yeah, I guess so.

That's what fuckface said.

I don't like dumb.

I don't like dumb shit like that.

Yeah.

You know, I worry about a dude with a slammed fucking late model,

duly it could be a big guy, a big fucking dude.

You think he's going to whip Josh's ass?

I just think you'd be surprised.

That's one of those like, hey, man, you that guy from that fucking podcast.

Uh, who are you?

I'll answer it the same way.

I always answered that depends.

Who are you staying neutral?

I'm like, man, you know, I appreciate him being vocal.

I appreciate you got enough fights on your hands.

You don't need to have another one to it.

I get it.

That's fine.

Not a problem.

But it was an overrack and have an Otis truck once they,

because after the SEMA crews, they just dump you out on the strip.

Like they don't.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I don't care who all's there.

And we had our three year old in the truck.

I was tripping.

It's it's a.

I was like, ah, it needs to be rethought.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to go on the record saying it needs to be rethought.

It's tough.

I mean, it's a monumental undertaking to figure out how to properly structure

the sort of evacuation of the SEMA show into that.

Like it, it's tough.

It needs to be rethought.

Probably need some thinking added to it.

I mean, we've had some cool experiences leaving the SEMA show.

I wouldn't do that personally at that point.

We're usually we're setting up as a vendor.

So we're there early at that point in time.

I mean, it's time to like it's time.

You're done.

We would also have to be there on Friday to do it.

Yeah.

But I mean, we've had some cool experiences leaving the SEMA show,

leaving in the Grand National was fucking leaving the SEMA shows great.

Like there's ways to do that.

SEMA show in a drivable car like late at night.

And that's usually that car is so fresh.

And when you when you're like a little bit confident in it, it's, you know,

well, you're also like what the worst thing could happen.

We're headed to the trailer.

You just have to push it a little bit further, but get on it.

Leaving in the G.N. was cool.

It was cool.

That was just a surreal.

The dash and the lighting and the everything's going around it.

Plus we were fucking punch drunk and tired.

And we come to the point in the show, which.

Best pun.

So it's a part of the show.

Some said you guys are saying you guys are saying that this is the best.

This is the best part of the show.

Have you received emails?

I've received a couple of emails.

I mean, I'm not saying I'm not the one saying it.

People are saying it.

Right.

People are saying this is the best part of the show.

Do you receive what?

What are the DMs look like?

We got any DMs on?

Oh, dude, I get all kinds of DMs.

See?

Yeah.

I don't see them.

Yeah, you don't.

They're not for you.

Good stuff.

Look about like like Stafford's fucking page here.

Full of soft core.

Are there any bangers in there ever?

Anything that's any standouts?

No, nobody reaches out.

Really?

There's no DMs.

All right.

There's absolutely no DM.

It's just empty.

No, there's a lot of DMs.

It's done nothing.

It's just which you're playing both sides pretty hard.

Yeah.

100%.

You have no idea what the truth is.

0%.

You have no idea what the truth is.

Yeah, it's funny.

This is the first time that I've even thought of that.

Like, have you I've never seen a DM.

Get access to it.

It's an open book, man.

OK.

I don't run it.

Somebody else runs it.

I mean, I saved the good ones.

I know you fucking run it because when I'm when I'm in there,

just like when I'm on Instagram, looking at like,

we're doing some house decor stuff right now.

So like, I'm looking at some things that maybe are more like

something that like a housewife would look at.

And then I see like, oh, oil and whiskey likes this or follows

this because your ass uses that you're on there liking all this

shit and following like how shit.

Yeah, dude.

No, dude.

No.

No, I don't.

There's all kinds of shit.

There's only three things I like.

And what's that?

It's your personal fucking Instagram.

It's not.

Yes, it is.

No, it's not.

I see some things that are followed by oil and whiskey.

You know how I know that?

You know how I know that's not true?

Because because these things.

No, I'm not even going to say it.

What?

Go ahead.

Say it.

What do you hurt my feelings?

No, I'm going to incriminate myself.

I don't give a fuck about your feelings.

So you're right.

All right, carry on.

Standard questions.

There's only three things I interact with.

Boobs.

And houses.

Houses ain't one of them.

Boobs, guns.

Right.

Now, if you saw me on some of those other ones, you're like,

then OK, maybe you'd have a case.

If you had to summarize it, boobs, guns, cars.

Guns, boobs, cars.

Guns, cars, boobs.

Boobs.

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Standard question time.

What else is on Instagram?

I mean, it's 5050 on his page.

We've come to standard questions time.

First up, favorite car movie.

Hey, careful.

This is not a group answer.

I wouldn't feel like if I'm right.

There's not a right.

You're going to have your answer, and he's going to have his answer.

Y'all are your own people.

And maybe a little cliche.

Cars.

Probably unexpected, because I'm a Chevy guy.

But I'm going to say go on in 60 seconds.

It's great.

It's still, I think it is still in the lead.

I'm an Eleanor fan, and I'm a Nicholas Cage fan.

Nick Cage.

Yeah.

What about what about Angelina Jolie?

She was in that too.

No comment.

Yeah.

We didn't take cage rep.

We didn't exchange in that too.

Reference last night.

War dogs or Lord of War.

Yeah, Lord of War.

Who did we say look like old Nick Cage?

You said that.

I know, but who was it?

And it was funny, but I forget who it was.

Damn, it was funny.

It was really good.

Yeah.

Oh, it was Mike Herman's dude.

Where the heck?

What's yours?

Let's see about Mike Herman when we were cracking up.

This is actually kind of funny, but you told me that this is one of your favorite movies.

Favorite car movie.

What?

It's a car movie.

What's your favorite car movie?

Hmm.

Yeah.

I don't know if I'll have one of those.

Herbie.

My favorite movie is Blow.

Good.

But what's funny, listen, listen, what's hilarious about this is.

Oh, here we go.

Because I was the worst person I'd request Ellie to do a special edit.

So I had a white cat.

But I'm not.

I'm a good person.

And I named it Blow.

And Presley, our daughter, was going to school in the second grade,

telling people that she didn't know.

White cat named Blow.

Oh, yeah.

That's tough.

Anyway.

How about that cat video I sent you the other morning?

Edit that out.

Had better parenting moments.

That's the kind of shit that I wake up to.

That's the type of shit that goes on at your house.

I know.

It's a reflection of you.

You allow that stuff to happen.

I can't imagine.

I walked into it.

That's.

That's kids.

Next up.

Again, two separate answers.

Wait till you're called on.

You're playing referee.

I am.

This just gets nuts.

He's doing such a good job.

Josh.

Yeah.

Moderately OK, Jim.

It'd been great if he's very calm this evening.

I guess it's not a SEMA party.

Normally he's like.

He gets up.

He gets uptight at the fucking SEMA party.

There's a lot to fucking go on.

You got to worry about people getting kicked out.

Similar to what George always used to say.

Again, another George Poteet comment, right?

George Poteet's comment when it was time to leave.

He always said, gotta go back to work.

Somebody's got to pay for all this fun that we're having, right?

Similar.

Somebody's got to make it happen for all this fun that we're

happening.

I haven't, right?

And there's a lot of fucking work in that thing.

I wish that I could enjoy it like everybody else does.

However, a lot of moving parts behind the scenes.

So that way we have a fabulous time.

We had to fucking change venues due to the bathroom situation.

From the year before.

Don't say that.

You're going to make me feel bad.

Did anybody get kicked out this year?

No.

We had no, were you there this year?

There were no extractions.

Put two and three together and get five.

You'll see how it happened.

No extractions.

No one's action in the venue was very nice.

It was good.

It was way better than the year before.

There was some non-admission.

There was people that didn't get in.

It was so hot in there and the security guards were so rude.

Yeah, we changed it.

We changed it up.

That old venue.

Oh, yeah.

2024.

Yeah, they were a little uptight.

Yeah, they were.

I did feel a little uptight going into it.

And they were tight, like they were not cold.

Given the casino, it's a maybe more prominent hire.

There's a lot of fucking rules and regulations there.

It's a different management group that runs.

It's different.

It's a different thing.

I can explain to you all fair why, but however it is.

But good news is we're working on securing that for next year.

Timely question.

Are you going to let me come again?

100%.

Yes.

Josh told me last year only if I behaved, so.

You behaved last year.

I told you I was going to.

Yeah, I was good.

I was proud of her.

I told you.

They're going to be picking on me, like listen to her.

I told you.

It's however from Mississippi.

You're used to hearing that though, right?

Yeah, your house.

Yeah.

What did Jody say the other night, your buster balls on?

What did she say?

My wife's country.

Really?

Super country.

Where is she from?

Alabama.

I love it.

That's where we're all from.

Alabama.

In her boat.

Yeah.

What did she say?

I don't know, but it was like Boonhower basically.

Sounds like Waterboy.

Timely in the story that we just had in the derailment.

Thank you again for that.

So glad we had you on from out here.

Yes.

Favorite, your favorite, I always say that,

your most memorable law enforcement interaction story.

We're going to start with you.

Ooh.

Good.

Go ahead, babe.

SEMA 2024.

No, I feel like that was just, that was a, that was a Wednesday.

That was a Wednesday.

Never, never had any law enforcement encounters.

Think way back, way back.

I'm about to just let me speak.

That's the best thing for you to do.

You got it.

You're going to have to speak into the mic though, so we can hear you.

Okay, so.

Right before Chris and I got together.

We had like hung out at night and had some drinks or whatever.

Well.

I'm pretty sure everybody knows what that means.

Ended up flipping at my Mercedes.

Flipping it.

Yeah.

Like selling it.

I don't think that's what she meant.

Just want to clarify.

Was it a tip or a flip?

A flip.

Topside.

Interstate or around the corner too fast?

I was just like out in the country.

So it was, I was half asleep because I had just woken up at his house.

And I was actually, uh, so I cheated on my ex.

I was cheating on my ex with him.

So it was like half asleep.

I had just woke up in his house trying to rush back home.

I married the same type of chick.

So I flipped the vehicle half asleep.

I'm not thinking like I'm 23 years old at the time.

Like, so this woman stopped and she was like, are you okay?

And it's like dawn, like super early in the morning, the sun's like barely out.

And my house was maybe like a mile away from right this location.

You're talking to the mic a little bit.

My house was like a mile from this location.

And this woman, whenever she stopped to check on me, I was like,

yeah, but I was not okay.

By the way, like my whole bottom of my mouth, I had almost like it was rough.

But I was like, yeah, I'm fine.

I was like, can you just bring me home?

I felt like completely left the same, left the car there in the ditch, left my Louis Vuitton

in the front seat.

Like all you can carry like $1,200 per.

Yeah, keys were in the ignition, stolen wallet.

I don't know what happened.

Yeah.

And then sometimes your law enforcement interaction stories.

Apparently that is illegal.

You can't just leave a vehicle.

She texted me.

I was like, you did what?

Medical attention.

Yeah, no, that's a everybody knows that hospital.

I went to my friend's house because I had wrecked my car.

But I didn't know that that is against the law.

Oh yeah, I've been there.

Yeah, you just got to leave in the scene of an accident.

You can't just leave the scene and then not do anything.

You got to leave the scene and then create a story

for the reason that you were not at that scene.

I would disagree.

From experience, speaking from experience.

Sometimes you can get it pending the weather conditions.

Sometimes you can't leave the scene.

There's also a story created for that as well.

Okay, well.

She texted me about that and I was like, wait, you did what?

Just a ticket or did you get arrested?

Just a crime.

Just a ticket?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Court, something like that.

Not a big deal.

You went in there, flashed the eyelashes.

Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

I was so scared.

I went home, blah, blah, it's all over with.

See, you guys don't have that.

You guys don't have that luxury.

That's the things we don't get to do.

We have to do hard time.

Yep.

You have eyelashes.

I've tried batting them.

I mean.

I think it's more Josh's demeanor, you know, with how he handled the situation.

That.

No, incorrect.

You think you don't think you could have steered that situation with the officer a little differently

that maybe wouldn't have ended up with you and Jay?

Oh, no, I tried.

I tried.

Well, all the times I tried that first.

Of course, my first instinct is to get is to get out of the situation in the most polite manner.

Of course.

Yeah.

Oh, I think your interpretation of polite might be skewed.

No, because I don't I'm smart enough to know what could happen.

So the first time what could happen happened like that.

That's what did happen.

That one was not at.

I exhausted all resources kind and otherwise to get out of that one.

There was no getting it.

But once it was going south, once it was going to just embrace that it was going sideways and just

you're like, fuck it.

Or no, once you and once you realize that it's going sideways,

then the you take the other approaches and you went hard.

Then you're like, it's already going sideways.

It can't go any more sideways at the drift break.

Yeah, sideways, sideways, sideways, sideways.

It can't work.

Once we realize that we can't straighten this one out.

OK, then let's see how far we can loop it.

Was the was the was the discussion.

So you're doing and this kid instead of turning away for anything.

No, that was like, yeah.

And then you figure sometimes when it's spinning, if you mad it to the floor,

there's been times.

Mad to the floor and turn into this.

There's been so many times, so many times that you've been around that.

Yes, a hundred percent.

All my fault.

I escalated the situation on purpose probably to get a reaction.

Yeah, all like most of the time in this in this scenario,

given the circumstances, I tried to de-escalate with all my power.

At any point in time, no, it was not.

And that's what I think made me escalate it further when I realized it.

Like escalation was the byproduct of trying to de-escalate.

Yes, and falling on completely deaf ears.

When at the at the very, the very point of this story that at the precipice,

I had done nothing wrong at all to even get to get to that situation.

So when I knew I was completely, completely innocent, did nothing wrong,

and he took it that way, then I was like, dude, come on.

Like I didn't do this, blah, blah, blah.

Then it went that way.

I looked at it as like, well.

I should do something wrong.

Regardless, if he's made hip his mind, I'm going to make you work for it.

We've talked, this has been documented before.

There's a best, best piece of advice I can give anybody out there.

Don't get arrested by a pissed off cop.

If you're going to get arrested, like, you know, you got to just take your lumps, right?

Right.

There's, there's, you think that handcuffs only go on one way?

They don't, they can go on tight.

So many different ways.

Well, if there's, there's so, it's so, so nuanced.

They can go on so many different ways.

You could be placed into the car so many different ways.

You could be driven to the police station.

So many different ways.

How were you placed in the car?

Like OG 1996 Broward County cops late at night.

Well, that was one of my favorites.

Throne.

Yeah.

The just ankles and, and wrist.

Throne.

Yeah.

You know what, when you, you don't think it's that big of a, I'm this,

you don't think it's that big of a deal.

You're watching it.

You're like, Oh man, I bet that hurt.

You don't think it's that big of a deal until you slide across that fiberglass

backseat and you have no way of stopping yourself from your face going into the

door, inner door panel of the other side.

It seems like a small little thing.

Like, Oh yeah, you got thrown into the car.

It's so much worse than what you imagine.

Never been in that situation.

Yeah.

I've never been in the backseat of a cop car.

Let me duct tape your hands behind your back and then chunk you down the stairs.

It would be essentially the same thing.

Yeah.

Anyway, military guy.

Yep.

However, prior to you joining the military, I would have to assume

there had to be a law enforcement interaction story.

Uh, it's actually after I joined the military.

Okay.

We can also get into that.

Had me a little bonus money.

Went and bought me a Suzuki jigsaw 750.

Yeah.

And a buddy of mine bought one same day.

White, blue and a little orange 750 on the back tail.

Mine was black and gray.

Oh, okay.

My buddy Aaron's was blue and white.

Okay.

The SRAD.

That was Suzuki Ram air design on the thing, right?

Oh, no, I don't think either one of ours.

This was in 2007.

I think either one of ours had that.

Remember the SRAD on them too?

I didn't fuck with any of that stuff.

Oh, yes.

That was the fucking world.

The white wheels.

So it was probably the cheapest way to go fast.

I think I bought it brand new for like 7,500 bucks.

7,500 bucks.

Yeah.

Eight grand.

Yeah.

So and I, you know, you could smoke anybody.

Pull up next to you in a stock Mustang.

158 miles an hour to 160 miles an hour for less than $8,000.

Yeah.

It was pretty good time.

We have a really long bridge that connects the North Shore

and New Orleans called the causeway.

Oh, geez.

And there's only two lanes and it's like

short wall, sudden death, short wall, sudden death.

I mean, my buddy real legit just cruising like not breaking the law.

Some guy rolls up next.

I'm on, I'm in the lane where it's the wall of the bridge

and he's on this side of the lane.

He says meridian.

This is going from Mandeville to New Orleans.

Oh, OK.

The causeway that goes south.

South Louisiana.

It's two, it's two bridges and two lanes on one bridge,

two lanes on the other.

Like one coming this way, one goes that way.

And anyway, this guy in a Mustang pulls up next to him

and we like thought he was like Aaron thought he was trying to race

at first and we were just blowing him off.

Like we're like, nope, not getting in trouble on the causeway

because the causeway cops are for lack of better terms,

they're dicks.

You know, they don't put up with no shit.

So we're just trying to ease across the causeway

and not getting trouble.

Dude pulls up in the Mustang.

He's trying to race.

Aaron is a little bit more of a hothead.

The dude won't leave us alone.

Like he keeps like trying to swerve over into the.

Now he's trying to swerve over into the lane

and he like got too close and Aaron like fucking smoked his mirror

and like punched it off the car.

What the hell?

Yeah, so.

Yeah.

So what you do is run your motor, the mirror is the first thing to go.

Yeah, like, hey, bro, you're too close.

You know, so Aaron gave him gave him the old mirror whack

and there's turnarounds on the causeway.

Like from this side to that side and that's where the cops sit.

So that had happened like in between the turnarounds

and then we go up over a bridge.

I mean, up over like a hill in the bridge

and you can't really see what's on the other side

and we go off the other side

and I seen the cop like pull from this side

and turn around to this side.

I was like, oh, shit.

Because that's what they do on the causeway.

They call the cops on you and then they'll just come get you.

I've been pulled over for swerving.

So we got got pulled over on the causeway

and it's a man lady like a lady that's real manly.

Okay, cop lady.

All right, man lady.

And I'm like, OK, I already know this is not going to go our way.

So I'm trying to be as polite as I can.

When you say manly, you're saying big, big and butchy

or you're saying petite and like pixie haircut.

No, no, no, no, like big and big, big and butchy

and like really has a complex about men.

My growing up as a kid, I think my dad always handled those.

The best one.

He would call him sweetheart and they'd come up.

Do you remember that?

You get pulled over all the time.

That's pretty good.

Oh, my sweetheart.

Is that what can I do for you, sweetheart?

Does it go good for them?

No, it generally didn't.

Yeah, because they don't want to be called.

The back seat is like, dad's cool.

They got into that.

They got into that profession specifically

not to ever be called sweetheart.

I think that was on their job description.

Sweet talking.

This lady would not have done us any good

unless we were a lady.

Right.

So I'm just like this.

I mean, we're going to jail, you know?

So I'm like being as nice as I can be.

And there's this whole ordeal in Louisiana

like the system is broken when it comes to a motorbike.

I don't know if it is here,

but you have to have your own motorbike

to do the motorcycle endorsement test.

You have to have an inspection sticker and insurance.

To, well, it's just like a round robin.

Like you have to have this to have that.

You got to have your own motorcycle to get a license,

but you got to drive the motorcycle without a license

to go get the license.

That's exactly right.

So we're in that limbo.

Yeah, we're in that limbo.

We don't.

Ain't got no car because I ain't got no job,

but you got to have a car to get a job.

But we don't have neither one of us have a motorcycle endorsement.

We have a license.

No, those are those are stupid.

Nope.

Don't ever get a motorcycle license.

This is dumb as shit ever.

Anyway, and I knew that I'm like, man,

she's going to tell her to go to jail.

I'm really nice to her.

I'm like, yes, ma'am.

Yep.

Whatever you say.

Like we're in the wrong.

Won't do it again.

You know, just that and the other.

And then Aaron is like pissed.

He's like, that MF or was trying to run us off the road.

Yeah, I punched his mirror off.

F him.

And long story short, I made it to work

because we were on our way to we're doing

like a little side gig, little side hustle.

We were actually going to help do sound

at a sticks concert on the river.

Okay.

So Aaron didn't make it.

Aaron took a ride in a cop car and one of the rare

oil and whiskey sticks references.

Yeah, we haven't had in a while.

She told him before she put the handcuffs on him

and had his truck loaded up on his bike loaded up

on the tow truck that he should take a lesson

from his friend and how to talk to the police.

So I came out on the winning end of that deal.

And good for you.

That's they can go they can go a couple of different

directions and everywhere in between.

I mean, it's why we love to hear the law enforcement

interaction stories.

But Aaron didn't do so well.

He spent the night in jail.

I couldn't go get him because I was at work.

So he stayed there.

Sticks concert was cool, though.

Fuck yeah.

Sticks.

I got I don't know that enough.

I got a I got a pick.

I just got up there and I was just like,

oh my god, thank you.

Thank you.

And then I heard that someone, anyone please help.

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Did you know I got a pick at a jet concert once.

Did you?

Why?

I think threw it out there and I caught it.

Why are you at a jet concert?

Why wouldn't you be Jets fucking badass?

Jet the fucking rock and roll band.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's not even that comes up in my in my rotation.

I don't know if I can even know it and notice it.

Are you going to be my girl?

Oh my god.

Old school.

That's good.

Okay.

Are you going to be a jet?

I think he must have been confused for a while.

I was thinking Joan Jett.

Well, Joan Jett's also pretty badass.

Yeah, we saw the House of Blues.

Dude, fucking flick the pic hit me right in the chest.

You're like, yes.

Let me get that.

Would you?

How'd you do it?

It's like I tried to block it.

Next up, we have a new edition.

Uh-oh.

This is a Stafford's garage.

It's a big, right?

You guys continue to kill it like you are.

And you are at the position where you just have too much work

and too much money and you need a car built.

And you're going to have,

you're going to commission somebody to build it for you.

What is the vehicle and who's building it?

No budget.

Who gets to decide this?

You're going to both answer separately.

But we can't take fucking 45 minutes doing it.

All right.

This is a tough question.

There are a lot of cars I want to do.

All right.

So this is for you.

This is your car.

So 60 Impala SS.

I don't know.

I mean, I'd expect this, but Dave can dig.

I knew it.

Really?

I look up to Dave.

Dave's the hell of a guy, man.

Well, let's face it.

You look up to Dave's work.

If you look at Dave, you're going to look him square in the eyes

or down a little bit because he's not exactly a stature.

Yeah.

But the work, the way he's, so he's put together a team

of some of the most talented.

He should look up to Dave for what he's done.

He is.

But he's done some amazing shit.

He's very humble.

Like you can sit there and talk to them like every time.

He's humble to you guys when talking behind the scenes.

That's the biggest.

He's the most arrogant son of a bitch.

Oh my God.

Always look at my gold.

Look at all the money that I've got.

I'm so famous.

I'm Dave Kendig.

Please kiss the ring.

No, I'm just kidding.

I'm just fucking with it.

I've never got that vibe for Dave.

Dave and Kevin are like the guys that they haven't changed

with all that.

Fuck.

They're the same idiots that they were before.

A lot of his employees are in the club.

And you know, it's like I said, it's just, it's amazing to me

that he's been able to grab that many talented people

and put them under one roof.

Yeah.

And it says a lot.

And I like how them and Charity are still married

and, you know, like they had their daughters.

People don't stay at, people don't stay at a place of employment

simply because they're making okay money, you know.

Right.

They like going to work.

Right.

And there's no doubt in my mind that culture in that shop,

I haven't got the visit of told Kevin a bunch of times

that I'm going to get out there and we're going to visit,

but haven't been able to make it happen yet.

But there's no doubt in my mind that culture in that shop

is probably awesome.

Oh, yeah.

Like, and then when you see them all out together,

like when they're not on like at SEMA,

being chased around by people that want autographs,

when they're on Fremont Street drinking as a crew,

like it's all the guys in the shop

and they're all happy to be there.

Right.

And I think I, you know, that's the culture

that I want to create my shop.

Like I want all my guys to be friends

and I want all my guys to feel like me and them

have a relationship.

And I think Dave has that in his shop

and somehow has figured out how to create that culture.

And I think, you know, he's got,

there's a lot of genuine newity going on there.

Yeah.

What color is that 16 palette?

It's black.

Uh, with red interior.

Is that's what I like?

It's a classic car.

Um, probably, uh, hammered.

Like just fucking laid out.

Yeah.

About 59.

Imagine that.

Right.

I feel like I've seen my 59,

but it lays the rocker on the ground

because I'm a little bit many trucker,

a little bit outrider.

It's your channel.

Savage then.

What is it?

It's this, right?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah.

Savage.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

That, nobody does that.

Different one.

There is a new one.

That's a tip.

That was geared up.

They did that.

That was, yeah.

Yeah.

We're going to have to cut it and body drop it

so that that lays the rocker on the ground.

Yep.

What about you?

What car?

Who's building it?

You can't say your husband.

That's just throw up.

Yes, I can.

Fuckin' A.

You can say that.

She should, she should say that.

I was gonna say that.

I just know that's where she was going.

So I don't mean that.

I really like a Volkswagen bus.

Okay.

Cool.

But I also like a Bronco, I think.

Or is it a Blazer I want you to do me?

What you said about K5?

Why don't you think about it and get back to us?

Maybe like email us.

You see that pink Bronco downstairs?

I was actually checking them out at Scottsdale.

So probably a Bronco black.

And it can like be on a lift kit or something.

So on an RS4 chassis, I guess you know what you gotta do.

Yeah, that's the perfect stance.

Yeah, you want it.

It used to be a Bel Air, but I changed my mind.

She went from a Bel Air to a Bronco, so the price didn't go down any.

But they had it really last at Bear Jackson.

They had this 1960 Mercedes.

Oh, it was so pretty.

Yeah.

Then she goes to the Mercedes.

They're fucking cool.

Oh my gosh, it was beautiful there.

When I built her car, it ain't going to be cheap.

Well, no, I mean, if you could look out and get a few crazy cars, then.

I wonder what it would take like.

Yeah, it's like car trucks while you're talking.

Where I would be in my life when I would build my wife a car.

You know, like what would be the deciding factor that's like, you know what?

It's like, you have all those crazy projects in your mind.

Let's let's put those aside.

No, I'd say that's what you don't fuck.

You don't fucked up bad.

You done.

You don't really fucked up.

I don't really think I'm like, you know, to make up for it.

Look at this Nova wagon.

Honestly, I would rather like.

I don't know, a new pool or something instead of that much money being dumped into.

Because she knows I'm going to get cost to build one.

So probably wouldn't want me to put that kind of money in a car.

She would definitely want a pool and a waterfall or some shit.

I would like, I want things because I'm a woman and I like to spend money not invested.

And, you know, I'm just kidding.

She's not kidding.

She likes.

She likes expensive shoes.

Told you.

Married one just like it.

Man.

We can do a group session later.

Yee-haw.

Just work harder.

That's it.

Work harder.

That's literally what he'll walk through the house.

I just I got to make more money.

Fuck it.

I just got to make more money.

It works out.

It really it's funny how life works when you paired in the situation like that.

Because that was the only saving grace for never being around for 13 fucking years was.

The fuck you want.

You want all these things.

Yeah.

Right.

That's it.

Somebody's got to pay for them.

That's right.

Your fucking ass ain't working.

My issue is the like it's $6 an hour.

The sum of all the bullshit playtime.

My issue in my house is the sum of all the Amazon deliveries.

It's not the big ticket items.

It's not a fucking pool with a waterfall.

No, it's never been.

It's never been.

It's a culmination of the six fucking deliveries a day.

Because it's not the money that it's just like the excessive deliveries that's bothering you.

Yeah, but I don't know.

Well, you can't.

They all cost money.

Tell her to market.

That's what she tells me.

It's only five bucks.

Well, that time when she's like shopping seven to be more like economical with the boxes and

like telling Amazon instead of doing the like the deliveries like to put them all in.

She says you can't do that.

I was like once a week.

Let's get this down to you.

You can't do that.

My problem is I don't like people coming down the fucking drive.

That's why I'm laughing because you're just pissed because people are coming to your house.

Tell her to get like a parcel box.

Put it at the end of the road.

My wife loading dock in their driveway because the semi-trucks.

My wife is phenomenal with money and finances.

Right.

She's done everything since I don't know.

So you're the spender.

I don't know.

I don't know what comes in what goes out.

But my rule has always been.

Oh, excuse me.

My rule has always been just don't tell me no.

Right.

I don't I don't have any idea.

I don't want a lot of things.

But when it's time for me to want something,

you figure out the way for it to happen because I don't want to be told no.

But she like it's a disproportionate value of money.

Right.

Similar thing.

It's if something was like $800, you know, regardless.

Oh my God, it's $800.

But 11 like $300 purchases in two day time is no problem.

Yeah.

Oh, is this is only 200 bucks?

I mean, oh, this is the thing is this is only $100.

Oh, I bought this.

But add the mother.

You're so good with finances.

Do the math.

They call that girl math.

It's way more than what you I said.

Let's go out to do this, blah, blah, blah.

And you're like, oh my God, that's $1,200 to do that.

Yeah.

That would have been way more fun than the seven things you just got from Amazon.

That's trash.

We have a girl math.

We have a return section in our kitchen.

That looks like the fucking shipping and receiving room to stuff going back.

Fucking hot rod shop.

Seriously stuff.

Oh, it turns out I didn't like it.

I was wrong size.

I won't return anything.

It just goes in a pile.

That's what I do too.

I won't go like I don't know.

It's generally not, well, it's generally not expensive enough to war it.

Like I'll offset the, I'll just throw it out or just bury it in the corner.

Oh, I'll tell her to take it back to begin with.

I take this back.

This sucks.

Dude, it is insane.

I've returned one thing in my life just because I was like you guys,

but I went in there and just handed it to him and like they put it in the bag and

everything.

And I was like, it's this easy, but I've never done it.

Go back again.

I would never do it in person.

I would never, I would, I would never do it myself.

However, it's became so easy just to be like, I don't want this anymore.

You bought this.

I don't like it.

It doesn't fit or whatever it is.

Return this.

And then the next, it's like, by the time I get home from work, it's gone.

It just, it's returned.

It's returned.

I buy five things a year on Amazon and one of them doesn't work and it was $6.

So it's just, you know what I bought that doesn't work blow dark.

Yes.

I know you said you're going to buy one.

I didn't realize that it didn't work.

Yeah.

I bought a fucking blow dart.

How does it not work?

The fucking nozzle is the ID of the nozzle.

You know, the that goes around your mouth cup is undersized, undersized.

Right.

So you try to slide the tube in.

What the hell are we talking about?

Did you flip it?

Yeah.

I tried it on every end.

It just rolls the fucking plastic back and you can't get the dart to set.

So you have to blow the shit out of this.

We have, we had a squirrel intrusion into the home that the squirrel needed to be terminated.

So I'm like, well, we can't use a firearm inside within the walls of the home.

So I'm like, I was a fucking absolute sniper with a blow dart gun.

I've taken the lives of many squirrel within the shop.

We had, we had a squirrel problem and we had a quarter Aboriginal.

Yeah.

No, you saw it.

You saw it.

We had a squirrel issue.

We had a, we had a squirrel breach in the showroom years ago.

And we also had a bat problem.

So I mean, I'm an absolute sniper with a blow dart gun.

Have you said it?

Everybody gets it.

Yeah.

I figured that's the right tool for the job.

So we're sitting at dinner and I'm talking to my son, obviously eggs me on.

And so him and I are very aligned, but there's my wife, she's on the phone.

It's like, which one do you want, honey?

And she had like, yeah, let's just take that.

Let's get that one.

It's like 35 bucks.

I'm like, Oh, add the extra darts.

$45.

It'll be here tomorrow because we've got like Amazon fucking gold status or whatever,

whatever it is.

So I show up, I come home the next day, blow dart gun is there.

I'm like, Oh, this is great.

Perfect.

Perfect timing.

It's a fucking piece of crap, dude.

The nozzle will not go on.

So I need a board.

I need to like run a bit.

The mouth nozzle side won't go on the tube.

It goes on, but it rolls the plastic back.

So then when you push the dart, you know, the dart, you give it a little pressure

and it kind of clicks.

It's too tight.

It's too tight to where you have to blow the shit out of it.

You said you can't blow hard enough.

No, you can, but if you lose your accuracy, you're coming on here saying you can't blow hard enough.

Dude, it's a spit.

You usually just give it a and it fires.

Like it's not because you lose accuracy when you got to like,

you have to give it that and then you have to lean into it and keep blowing.

And then it all of a sudden like, it's not right.

So it needs a little, it just needs a little remount.

Yeah, which I'll do when I have some time.

I just didn't have the time or the fucking energy last night.

But why it was his first experience with the blow dart gun.

He's quite fascinated.

We are trying it out in the house.

The all the Christmas cards are still set up over the staircase.

So I'm like, dude, kid with the big head, like kid with the big head head shot.

That was his sister.

Jeep place since your fucking Christmas card.

Fucking Jeep place since your Christmas card.

No, it's just, we're not going to name names.

The what?

The Jeep.

Stop.

We're not going to name names.

This is a proud.

Merry Christmas.

Hey, here's my big headed kid.

Proud father moment.

I'm sitting there.

It just makes you feel good, right?

Yes.

Son, daughter right there.

Charlie just got back from gymnastics.

You got to really lean into it fucking right through between the eyes.

Oh, you're talking.

It's probably a 20 yard shot.

Maybe 20 year shot fucking between the eyes of the Christmas card.

20 yards inside of his house.

Still got it.

It's a big house.

Pretty good.

Pretty good fucking.

It is good.

Well, then if you can do that, take the squirrel out.

All this other extra.

No, I don't.

Yeah, I don't.

I want I wanted to feel more comfortable that I didn't feel it didn't feel confident with it.

You explained why it about the wild Noah's.

No, I didn't didn't.

But I will.

This has been a great.

I really wish you'd be a little more.

I am.

I guessed it first off that it was you didn't blow it hard.

And let's just give it a little.

Let's just ring the hall out a little bit before we blow on it hard.

Yeah.

That's what I'm going to do.

Give a little.

This has been this has been a trip.

We're missing one.

Good question.

Are we?

Yeah.

And I mean, I'm interested in it because of the geographical location.

I don't know.

I don't know how to tie it in, but let's just simply put the songs songs.

What are you playing?

What are you going there?

We didn't do first car.

I don't really know first car, but rolling back early on.

What year did you graduate high school?

2006.

I'm off.

This is the genre that I didn't even know existed.

We're not going to guess the car, but 2006 car wise.

I mean, the music.

You're rolling around.

You and your buddies, what's playing?

What's on the compact disc player for both of you?

What's the go to fucking song?

2006.

For me, I'm not of my era when it comes to music.

In high school, James Brown.

I'm not bad bad company.

But me, I'll probably return to the Mac.

Oh, I love that song.

I'm probably jamming some Return of the Mac.

Return of the Mac.

What is that?

Return of the Mac.

You've never heard the song.

I don't know.

He's heard it.

He's heard it a million times.

He's heard it.

Is this the song?

It's the song.

Return of the Mac is the song.

Yeah.

He sings it.

Yeah.

The guy.

The dude, the one that sings it.

Obviously, crazy.

We've heard Mark Morrison.

Mark Morrison.

Return of the Mac.

I'm sure I've heard it.

Uh, it's like disco hip hop.

Kind of like, uh, what year did you graduate?

2013.

He's only eight years older than me.

Don't look at him like that.

You were talking, you were telling stories.

Y'all knew each other in school too.

No.

No, we never said that.

No, we didn't know each other in school.

Oh, I thought you told the story.

Okay.

Nope.

No, but I can remember.

Like my mom driving to school

and Britney Spears.

Like I loved her.

Oh my gosh.

And he like, I want to tell my mom.

Is that considered oldies when you were listening to her?

Mm-mm.

No.

It was fresh.

Wasn't Britney Spears like our era of high school?

That was the school video.

So I was like going to pre-k.

Not that I remember it exactly.

And I wanted, I was going to pre-k.

But my sister was like nine years older than me.

She was Christmas age.

So eight, seven, whatever.

And I would be like, I hit me baby one more time

by Britney Spears.

You know?

Yeah.

And my sister would be like, I'm so sick of listening to this song.

Like, do we really have to listen to this again?

And the mom would be like, if she'll listen to it and be quiet, like.

And play it, show her us.

Hit me baby.

You know who's better than Britney Spears?

Justina Aguilar.

Yeah.

Jessica Jones is pretty good too.

Christina Aguilar.

Oh my goodness.

I did love her too.

A dirty video.

She's in the boxing ring.

They don't do those anymore.

You ever seen that video?

I don't think so.

Huh?

You don't, you didn't even say the same things I'm into.

No, it was easy.

There's websites where he can bypass all that.

Just go right to it.

Yeah.

I was like, it's the art in it.

Video and music and stuff.

You have music and stuff, huh?

Yeah.

The name of the song, the song was dirty.

Like, come on.

Look it on the way home.

Listen to it.

Pull it up on the, on the YouTube.

Like you want to watch it?

And watch it.

Yeah, you do.

Pull it up on the YouTube and watch it on the way home.

I definitely watch it.

Some sweaty people in the video.

Face timely when you do it.

Like watch this.

Wait, hold on.

This is about to happen.

This has been a, this has been a trip.

I think the, somebody slipped some alcohol in this old fashion.

But it was really good.

They did.

And this is quite a, quite a time.

A good little cocktail.

Oh, we came close.

Put a dent in it.

Yeah, it's almost done.

Yeah.

I should have brought two bottles.

We did.

We did good.

Oh, what's next show you're going to be at?

Oh, good guys.

Dallas.

Good guys.

Dallas.

That's like 10 days from now.

Shit.

Shit's starting already.

Oh, it sneaks up on you.

Sneaks up on you.

It definitely sneaks up on you.

Well, congrats on all the success.

Congrats on the truck.

Really great.

Great having you guys up.

Glad you could make it.

This is a great episode.

And I'm going to be watching this.

Be watching this.

23.7 followers, right?

23.7 as of right now.

By the end of the day that this episode drops.

23.7.

Five.

23.75.

We're not going to see five.

I don't know.

The Australians are kind of.

We're going to have to get it to at least 23.8.

Instagram has been holding us back lately.

23.8.

Let's do the algorithm.

Are you hanging it up?

If this doesn't get to 23, I'm telling you right now,

if this doesn't get to 23.9 by the end.

No, 24.

Dude, swing for the fences.

For a nice even number.

Squared up.

That's 300 followers.

Okay.

Swear it up.

If this, okay.

Swear it up.

If this does not go to 24,000 followers by the end of the week

that this podcast drops, right?

No more podcasts from us until it hits it.

Okay.

Oh, wow.

We're done.

Wow.

That's up.

We're holding back.

You're talking smack.

Hold fucking statement.

I don't believe you.

It's a statement.

We've said it.

Yeah.

You're holding out for the people.

Yeah, I know.

I'm holding out for you guys.

Sometimes you've got to.

They scroll.

They scroll down about halfway.

I'm probably, you ain't got nothing to worry about hitting

to 24,000.

All right.

You're going to go fix your stuff and hide some of these pictures.

No, Josh does it for the gram.

No, that's what's going to get the followers.

And if you got like three weeks or two weeks before this podcast,

you got a couple of weeks before this hits.

We got a couple of weeks to frontload that content.

Oh yeah.

What do you think the fucking thumbnail is going to be for this podcast?

It's okay.

Y'all have daughters.

I won't make it to my father's going to love this.

I mean, he's a great guy.

Ain't nobody forced you to take them pictures.

That's what he's going to say.

We'll see you again next week.

See you again next week.

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