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This is the Classic Automall Show.
Broadcast from the studios inside the Classic Automall in Morgantown, Pennsylvania, just one
hour west of Philadelphia at Pennsylvania Turnpike Exit 298, featuring nearly 1,000 classic vintage
and barred-fine vehicles for sale under one climate-controlled roof.
Now, here's your host, Classic Automall president and the man with all the toys,
Stuart Howden.
Good morning to our Classic Automall podcast listeners.
Even Ethan, how's everybody this morning?
Beautiful sunny day.
It is.
Beautiful day.
22 degrees, it feels like.
Brings in the people.
It does.
We were busy yesterday, Friday.
Today is Saturday, February the 18th.
Show number 76.
Closing in on 100.
That's amazing.
We have a body of work.
We should have a big 100-party.
Oh, I get doughnuts.
That's true.
I may not always be able to get those.
It could be an issue with a doughnut crisis and more.
For the 100th show, you'll get something other than glaze.
I think I will.
I'll get the sprinkles.
I'll really throw them.
Right.
Throw a loop.
Yeah.
We have fun with it and the McDonald's because as you all know, or you don't know,
there's nowhere to eat.
We have mostly fast food.
A couple of heritages.
Across from the casino or our friends at the moment.
How about the Super Bowl?
How about the Super Bowl?
How about the Kansas City?
Jesus.
Eagles.
It's what it is.
Sorry, Ethan.
We got beat.
That's plain and simple.
Yeah.
Second hand.
And as everybody says it doesn't come down to one.
No, it doesn't.
It certainly wouldn't hurt.
Right.
But that guy got a $3 million.
Oh, yeah, probably.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
It's funny how games of any type, ports of any type, you change drastically.
I think you got it in the bag or you think things are going in the direction.
And they say there is no halftime agenda.
They say that's all bull crap.
But some things do.
Oh, there is.
Especially with a long halftime like that.
Yeah.
The endless Rihanna performance.
That was far.
So busy.
It's a good thing Ethan doesn't have a microphone today.
He keeps chiming in.
Yeah.
So we'll stay on that.
So anyway, we'll talk about cars today.
OK.
I'd be good for a car show.
Maybe less contentious.
Yeah.
And we've got two wonderful guests on two brothers, RB Collection, Alex and Al Rosie out of Allentown,
classic car sales and restoration and service.
They were actually telling me just a little while ago, Custom of Ours, so where did we
sell cars?
Why only one week?
Last week.
War and peace.
Right.
Endless.
So this week, Martins Ferry, Ohio, Horsham, Pennsylvania, Melbourne, Florida, Bakersfield,
Inlet, South Carolina, Cross, Idaho, that may be 10 different states.
10 different states.
More than cars.
More than 10 cars.
Cheapest car was 11.
OK.
Most expensive was over 80.
And so we got all price points.
As we talked about a couple of, even at the auction house, even the big auction,
you don't realize, but they have $3,000 cars and some of these auctions are $5,000, something
for everyone.
Though, we're running out of room a little bit.
We're changing.
My partner was here yesterday and he said, what happened to our food?
I go, well, I got a few cars kind of stuffed.
We're actually going to take our food court and kitchen out because we have a full food
court and kitchen holiday.
Right.
I don't think we do.
We don't need an abandoned food court.
Yeah.
It is cool to see though, because it really, this was a mall.
It was a mall.
It was an active mall.
In the center where we have about 30 cars, right?
A merry-go-round.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
There's some cool little pictures as well.
I don't know what happened to it.
Right.
But we were going through some back rooms that I've kind of forgotten about.
Sometimes you just, there's cubby holes and nooks and crannies and there's walk-in
freezers back there.
There's equipment back there.
You think about the dollar amount of stuff that's worth nothing.
Probably cost news.
$1,000.
Right.
But what are you going to do?
Can't doll and doll and...
Right.
Can't take it with you.
Can't take it with you.
Can't take it with you.
Yeah.
I mean, because it doesn't cost...
910 or 11 cars and we're getting full.
We're going to pull out some of our barns probably we have never seen if you're behind
coming back different areas in the building room for us need because we don't like to
say no.
Nobody wants to bring their car here.
It'd be bad.
I was thinking about that the other day.
You know, like one point you say, no, sorry, we're full.
And if you get that reputation, now, now what?
They'll start looking for option B or option C or option D.
You got to say yes.
You got to say yes.
So what we've done is we've tried to, well, we had 600 cars.
There was never an issue.
You get to 900.
You start thinking, okay, what can we rearrange to work a little better?
And the answer is eventually you just get to a perfect layout for a room.
And that's that.
I mean, we're like a Rubik's Cube now.
You got to move 10 to get one some.
Right.
So if you're interested in a car and would like to come see it and like to go
the next step, give us a little bit of heads up just so we know.
Yeah.
I was telling people to fill the auto show.
Give two or three days notice.
Yeah.
Just so we can get the car prepared and ready in an area where you can really
view it properly.
Lots of space to walk around.
Some of the new inventory 1628 garnet red through X 33s.
The Marrow high performance ink certified window sticker protector plate and
the DZ 302 290 horse badass.
And the one that's the one date.
Correct.
So it's probably not the original transmission, but it is date.
Correct car and the date of really almost.
I don't hesitate to say, you know, right?
There's not.
You can't.
I'm not close.
I'm close to.
I like that left.
How about a 68 Dodge Dart GTS medium green metallic over black?
Really cool car.
Yeah.
Known history.
Ray Barton 528 cubic inch Hemi.
It's got a rebuilt 720 a 720 mopar version of I guess a hydromatic, right?
And magnesium cross ram.
It's got a vinyl roof, original vinyl roof.
Wow.
And then a 14 Mustang GT coupe.
Have you seen this thing?
It's in gotta have.
Oh, the bright green one.
Yeah.
Gotta have it green is the name of the color.
Very optimistic.
It's somebody like, I mean, yeah, it's it's for everybody.
There's a but for every seat, as we say, it's bright green.
It's bright, bright green.
You have to be okay in your own skin if you stare.
That's right.
You know, and some people aren't.
Listen, if you're not okay with that, don't buy a classic car of any type and go to
a gas station because people will swarm you go to a gas station and something cool
going to be people all around you.
Allow extra time.
Allow extra time.
Uh, uh, uh, 2003 Honda s 2000, which I love that this one's really cool.
Silverstone metallic over red and neat car.
It is one of those ones high on my list of bucket list type car because they say they
are so fun to drive.
I've never driven one.
Have you driven?
I haven't driven one.
It is on my bucket list, too, as I look for sports cars, but their values are gone
up, obviously, and the desirability and I saw one sell somewhere probably bring
a trailer for in the almost $50,000.
Yeah.
Whoa, I didn't.
When did that happen?
And I'm like, okay, I'm thinking now I'm about ready for this.
Oh, wait a minute.
How much did they go up?
Almost get the accurate NSX and NSX for that.
Well, not anymore because they're going up there.
How about the 95 Chevy Suburban?
That's diesel.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Which is really neat for a Suburban.
You don't see many of the diesel Suburban.
Four screen metallic and gray steel metallic over a one owner garage cap, six
two liter, three row seating, and it's a nice little car, uh, our cool SUV.
And then a 96 Dodge Vipers, which is sitting right here in front.
Yeah.
It's the Viper Blue.
Yep.
Viper Blue Pearl over one owner, 4,500 minis.
That is limiting yourself to, uh, Sunday drives only.
And again, if you don't like attention, this might not be the car for you.
450 horsepower, eight liter, one of 1100 is just in the car.
So that and a bunch of others have come in.
We've just, the cars keep coming.
And what's interesting is as of late is we're getting a lot of 40s and 50s
Hudson, Packard, Nash, some interesting cars that we weren't getting as much
of prior to the last couple of three weeks or so.
You know, we always get lots of, because that's the most important.
I mean, that's the most prevalent cars in the hobby.
They made a lot of, uh, and so I need my car.
I have a car, but not, but my arm is not long enough to reach it.
So I would even hit it for you, but I don't guess it worked.
Anyway, so the hunt for the new car is over.
It's over.
It's over.
So typical car guys.
Yeah.
So the Z eight was there and I was going to get that.
But it had a, just had some things that made me go off.
And then the whole Ferrari thing is every time I read about one service.
So we'll be opted for another Autobahn cruiser.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
S 60.
Yeah.
Coop AMG.
Okay.
Six.
Twin turbo.
Wow.
640 horsepower and 711 foot obsidian black over Designio Napa black interior.
It is.
I haven't seen it yet.
I haven't driven it yet.
It's not here yet.
I haven't seen it yet.
I haven't seen it yet.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Yeah.
Just give me, just give me one blurb about it.
That's all I need.
So it will be here.
Hopefully early next time.
I need to get you a mall of your own.
Might have to print.
Print.
But anyway.
So the hunt is over.
We have a car.
We're going to be satisfied for a period of time.
This thing is like a freight does not have the two things.
I hate them.
One is the dial shifter on the console.
Yeah.
Because and the reason I hate it is purely a personal problem.
Probably.
I don't have the reference dial that I have with column shift or a console.
I know where I am without looking with a dial.
Even though you know each click is this doesn't have the same feel as when you're shifting
a shifter either in the console or again on the column.
And so that and the automatic shut off.
I was crazy.
I don't like that.
I hate it because I'm not sure if the car died or what is going to happen.
I give it gas and it doesn't go in the guy.
I've let off the brake and the guy runs into the back of me or I can't get
through the intersection or it stops in the middle of an intersection or ranting a little
bit.
But it really bothers me that isn't that wear and tear on the engine.
It's just like unnecessary.
Why don't they keep a couple cylinders running seems to me that they that is some kind of
fuel saving that they're able to meet their standards that they have to meet through
the government by having these automatic probably not enough or not a lot, but it's just
enough to keep them under that that magic number that right.
And that's why they have nine and 10 speed transmissions because they want to get it into
that highest gear as quickly as possible.
So it get the maximum fuel amount will build the zero six that right.
So anyway, I didn't talk about anything.
Well, and I got guests coming.
30 seconds.
I'm bloody out dirty.
But anyway, when we return, we welcome my two new friends, Alex and Al Rosie from RB
Collection in Allentown, Pennsylvania will be back in a couple of minutes.
And we're back with a classic automobile podcast on a beautiful sunny day and Morgan
Town, Pennsylvania, where, you know, it's 23 degrees, but it looks like it's about 80
out there. We have quite a few cars here in the parking lot, not to mention inside.
And we have some very special guests in the studio.
My new friends, Al and Alex Rosie from Allentown, Pennsylvania, who I happened
to meet Alex about two weeks ago when I'm driving through Allentown and I
see a Ford Fairlane convertible backing out of a building.
Oh, I have to turn around and go.
I didn't even know you were there.
I'm just driving past and I go, I got to stop and say hello.
And so I waved and yelled across the parking lot and you waved.
And I said, I'm Stuart, a classic automobile.
You said, oh, come in, come see me.
And that's how we met.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Hello, guys. So that's the prime, Alex.
And don't worry, my voice and my brother's voice is exactly the same.
Wait a minute, I want to know how he got to get the two letter name
and you had the four letter name.
Could you have been Al and he'd have been Al or something?
That's a very good question.
Thank you. So I am Alishandri.
Oh, so Alex.
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
That's and I was short for OCD.
Yeah.
Well, there are names you hear every day around here, right?
Because people say your parents don't have creativity.
It's all in Alex.
Oh, no, no, no, not the case, not the case at all.
Well, you guys have been in the restoration, the service
and the sales business up in Allentown for a number of years now.
How many would almost 25 years now has it been that long?
Yeah, specifically in Allentown.
We opened on 2019, but because that is part of the Auto America.
That's the initiative along with American Wheels Museum
that we had restoring the old AMB meets building.
Right.
And allocating the restoration center right by it.
So giving the chance for people visiting the museum
paying the admission to tour our restoration center for free.
Right.
Nice.
So we have, I'd like to invite everybody.
The tour is on Wednesdays and Fridays at one o'clock.
One o'clock.
And how long does it last normally?
Thirty minutes.
Thirty minutes.
So you give them a breakdown of what you do and how you do it
and show them whatever inventory you have and what cars are in right.
Yeah, it's very focused on what we are doing, the restoration center
and cars we have there, the projects and the stages.
Some people they come this month because they went six months back
and they want to see how that project they saw was going out.
So it's very interesting.
So I'll ask you the same question I get asked all the time.
Why Morgantown?
Why Allentown?
What?
Why?
What made you pick Allentown?
That's a very good question.
We have 12 minutes.
My brother was exactly in a company in South America.
And he received an offer to work here in Allentown,
the Valley, where is the headquarters.
And I was a lawyer in South America and I was transferred to New York.
And as my brother and I, we have been doing that since we were teenagers.
Right.
And we live here in America and America is the best.
The business is huge here.
There is no other place like America in terms of classic business.
So then we start to do that as a hobby, as we did in South America.
And we realize that we are doing more that than our jobs.
And enjoying it more, probably.
Oh, much more.
And you grew up in Brazil, right?
Yes.
So Brazil, not a hotbed for classic cars.
I guess there's a few, but there's not a lot.
What's the most prevalent type of classic car you would see in Brazil?
Is there a certain type or?
Very towards European models.
Right.
But everybody loves the big V8s, the American muscle.
Sure.
But you're going to see more towards European
because of the price of gas.
Right.
Is it way more there?
Very expensive and a smaller engine.
Right.
You know, just like in France and all that.
So what was the car that got you?
What was the car that said, oh, I got a,
this is what I want to be involved in.
I want to do cars.
This is it.
Well, mine is, I started with a 1964 Beetle.
Nice.
Appropriate for a small engine, right?
Yeah.
But my very first dream car was a 1977, 78 model,
but built on 77 Ford Maverick.
But in Brazil, a Ford Maverick was a luxurious sport car.
Really?
Yeah, with a three-wheel drive.
Good motor in those.
Yeah, automatic transmission was the LDO model.
It was a super luxury model.
Right.
And that car really was.
That's the one.
That's the one.
What about you, Alex?
What was your car?
No, my older brother, my father gave to him a Jeep wheelie.
Oh, cool.
And I learned to drive in that.
Right.
But after that, I share with him what do we call a Dodge Polara?
Not the same Polara we had in America.
No, no, no, this is more of the European car.
And I remember was, oh, my goodness, I had a car, the carburetor.
But you still loved it, right?
Oh, yeah, it's a yellow, really yellow car.
Well, you know, it's funny.
There's so many cars that were made in other parts of the world
that that the equivalent in the United States is not the same as those.
And so you when you say that kind of car, people look at you funny
and then they you don't they don't realize that they're different.
You know, but, you know, in the end of at the end of the day,
all of us have a passion for these cars.
And we were talking about off the air before we came on the air at that.
And it's funny because it doesn't matter what the price point is.
It doesn't matter what the level of restoration is.
People have the same passion, whether it's a five thousand dollar car
or five million dollars.
We see that every day.
And it's funny because a lot of people, they ask me,
what is your favorite?
It's the common question.
And I would say it's a very complex, because if you see the history of the industry,
I love the model model is that the pioneer will change everything.
Then you go towards the 30s, the big piece of art,
the Duesenberg, the Packard.
So and then we go to the muscle car, the 60s.
So and before the 50, my favorite deck that shows all the the American
society with all the chrome, the big car.
So it's tough to say.
Sure, each car in each time represent the history of the society.
Right. And they have its own beauty.
It's so deep.
If you see a Ferrari, a pure race car,
Ferrari was built since the beginning of a race car.
So depend what you want, and what you like and depend what represent
in terms of top. Absolutely.
And you know what? We all have favorites of different areas.
I love collect.
It used to be you would see a guy had a collection and it was only
Ferraris or only hot rods or this.
Now a guy in his garage, he's got a Ferrari.
He's got a 32 high boy.
He's got a Duesenberg and he's got a Harley.
You know, and maybe something else, maybe some kind of muscle car.
I mean, it's a diverse collection anymore.
Much different than it used to be.
And I love that part of the hobby.
That's the cool thing.
So a restoration shop.
I mean, you guys aren't doing like Mako $39 paint job.
You guys are doing top shelf nut duration.
I mean, how long does it take to do one of those restorations?
Is it a year?
Is it take that long or longer?
Two projects we have right now.
One is a 1969 Z28 and the other one is a 60 Volvo P18.
Wow.
Well, we have them for three years.
They will be finished this year.
So it will be almost four years.
Wow.
Because the restoration we do choose for it
is very well documented.
We have over 3,500 pictures for each one
because it's not only how we restore it.
You have to document to show all the places that are not.
You cannot record.
Once it's done, right?
Yeah.
So usually is at least 2,000 hours of work,
depending, of course, on how the car arrived usually.
But at the end of the day, I mean,
if you're going to do a full nut bolt restoration,
a half-perfect car or a tenth of a perfect car,
it's going to cost you still close to the same amount of time,
right?
Because you've got to basically start over.
Thank you very much for saying that.
That's what people don't understand.
They are trying to do.
I don't want a show car.
Listen.
But I want perfect paint.
Yes.
So I don't want a concourse.
Right.
There is nothing like that.
You have a nice relation to it.
Right.
Yeah, it's a yeah.
And you know what I love about the concourse community
is that they are rewarding them to drive their car
in the tours for the Conqueror on Sunday.
And they're not deducting for grass under the here
or a rock chip here or there, or that it's
got a little bit of dirt on it.
Because the tiebreaker usually is,
did it participate in the tour?
So if there's a two that are equal,
one that's greater than.
And I like that.
They need to be driven, right?
That's at any price point.
But it's important to say, and I
want to say that because I say to everybody
and discuss with other restoration,
restoration process takes time, right?
And if you find somebody promising
you do a full restoration for six thousand,
it's not going to happen.
Somebody will be disappointed, right?
Because if you do the right way,
require a lot of research, require a lot of time,
a lot of patience.
So that's money.
Time is money.
So if you go this way, you have to be prepared.
Yeah.
And the way now that things, the perception
changed a lot, especially in the last five years.
A car became really investment grade,
many of them, as you are well aware.
And what happens is it's like our Rolex watch, for example.
We're going to restore one if you don't want to put a cast mechanism inside,
right? Or a Timex.
Or a Timex.
So they are good mechanisms.
They will show you the time, but it's not the purpose.
Right, exactly.
It's important to be authentic.
And as you said, having a great restoration all the time,
based on authenticity and restoring the car back to its best point in time.
That was when the car was doing.
Exactly.
And some of the parts are unobtainium.
I mean, it's sometimes the timeframe of the three and four years is not
because you you you're just taking that long to work.
It's you've got to wait this much time for the next part.
And and if it's not there, you can't go any further, right?
That's right.
There's a lot of parts that are you having?
Are you making parts, 3D printing parts?
Does that come into play yet with you guys or no?
We try to avoid that, because it takes away from the authenticity.
Sure.
So because a now, especially people bring more attention to the
charter of terrain to that is a document emphasizing how authentic
the restoration should be.
It's something that functionality, look, touch, everything is
important for authenticity.
And as well as 3D printing is a wonderful idea.
Maybe for customized cars is perfect.
We are not using for restoration.
Sure.
So if you have to create a part from scratch, wow, that doesn't come cheap, right?
I mean, if you have to rebuild a part that doesn't exist anymore
and you have to have a certain part, you have to have somebody cast it and make it, right?
I mean, that's right. Wow.
But what happens is, thank God, an eBay is a good thing about it.
Knock on wood.
Knock on wood.
We can get it and we can restore no other part that is much
better than the parts you have and bring it.
So some of the awards, your guys' cars have won.
Can you expand on that a little bit?
Some of the some of the places that your cars have shown in one?
Yes. So Amidia Island cars that we're working on did the best in class,
a special award, Rednor Hunt.
We did best of show, best in class to
San Michael's best in class, just as example.
Right.
And those cars we are very proud of because they are really very authentic.
Won many other awards in different places.
Those are just we are mentioning those three because they're probably the most
well known. And they're so close to here around here.
I mean, too, you know, I mean, Amidia is on the East Coast.
Yeah. But St.
John's is a great, I love that conqueror and I love I love Rednor Hunt.
I we have a nice display down there every year and we love being down there
and being a part of that.
That's just a fun event.
Well done in a beautiful setting.
The setting is really, really special.
I hate to admit this, but I've never been to Beville Beach.
So we will continue our our talk with the brothers, Alan, Alex,
Rosie and talk about some restoration and service and all the fun stuff
they do in Allentown back in a minute.
And we're back with the classic Auto Mall podcast on this beautiful
Morgantown sunny day.
There is a new Bronco convertible coming in, Steve.
That's just right up your alley, right?
We like every kind of car.
Oh, yeah.
It's so funny, you know, I was telling you off the air that
that I don't get to see a bunch of the cars when they come in.
But the guys will call me when something really cool comes.
They'll say, you've got to get up here right now.
You can't believe what just came in.
As we are seeing about the Henry Truman car you have here.
Yeah, how cool is that?
Oh, it's phenomenal.
And with air conditioning, what is not an equipment
that you see very often in the car and that special
air intakes in the back makes it very different.
I'm fascinated by that car.
So I am too.
I love stuff like that.
I love stuff that's different.
You know, I listen, I love Camaro's.
I love Mustangs.
I love Firebirds.
I love Corvette.
I love everything.
I like Ferraris.
I like Porsches.
I like all.
But the oddball stuff.
But that's got to be the most difficult restoring.
I mean, it might be one thing to restore a Model A.
It's another thing to restore a one of five built Hudson
convertible, whatever, right?
I mean, doesn't that, isn't that difficult, especially?
I mean, it doesn't have to be that low production.
Right.
We had, we restored a Chrysler Air for 1936.
And of course, we want to bring the car back
with its aluminum head when the car came to us.
Previous owner would cast head because they are notorious
for having problems with the head.
Finding that head.
Oh, like a needle in a haystack, right?
Oh, months.
But finally we found it and we polished and wet sanded it
to bring it back to its original glory.
And we fit in the car, but it was very hard.
Also the original champion park plugs that were very hard to.
Oh, and I bet you had to pay a pretty penny for it
when you did find them, right?
So it was expensive, almost $40 per spark plug.
Wow.
And this car was sold, the owner later sold the car
at the R&B site in Hershey and was a record price.
Really?
World record price.
Nice.
Because air flows are, again, as we were talking
off the air, they're under a pretaker.
They're very amazing cars, right?
They're history behind it.
What mean?
But we always say there's rare and then there's desirable
just because they only made five of something
and done a gram page, you know, or a gram Hollywood.
You know, nobody really cares.
And it's a shame because they're great.
Uh, and so that's the people say, a guy will call me
and he'll say, I've got a really rare car.
Oh, cool.
What do you got?
He goes, it's one of five built.
It's 1985 Mustang in chartreuse.
You're like, okay, well, that's rare.
I'm not sure that anybody wants it.
And maybe the reason it's rare is because they couldn't sell.
But it's, it's funny how people don't always understand that
people can't quite gather the fact that a 1940 Packard black
four-door sedan doesn't bring but maybe 15 or $18,000.
And people go, but it's so old and it's a Packard.
And it's, I mean, once, once you most amazing is once
you sit in a 1936, 34, 35 air flow and when you drive
the car, you see that that car drives like a 1950s car.
Right.
20 years earlier.
Yes.
So was it was so you really think, oh, this was really
advanced 19, sure.
Well, Cords were advanced for in their era.
Duesenbergs were advanced only because they had such big
horsepower, 260 something horsepower, unbelievable back then.
I mean, look at, did you see the Duesenberg engine that
was at an auction that brought $300,000 for just the engine?
Yeah.
People that are not in the hobby go, huh?
They can't believe that.
Yeah.
For the other transactions, like the people are seeing
that Mercedes, the Ulan Hut.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, 140 million.
Yeah.
And I think that's a trend, right?
Sure.
And it's as we were saying before, if when the car is
more authentic with all the components, original, authentic,
working well, it's becoming more and more investment grade.
And we don't see the prices going down.
No, we don't either.
Well, think of it this way, if you get in a car and it
doesn't have power steering and it's, you know, there's
great cars that don't have power steering that are so well
balanced that they turn like they have power steering.
But if you get in a car that's hard to drive, difficult
to maneuver, you know, bulky and cumbersome, not many
people are going to be interested.
So it's got to be something that that is somewhat user
friendly.
A lot of these are, you know, garage queens.
And we understand that.
I get that part of the hobby that, you know, they
should be driven.
Listen, I have seven cars in the back of this room
and I never drive them and I buy more and I don't
know why because I don't, I don't have time to drive
them, you know, but these cars need to be
exercised because I guarantee you tell all your
customers, sitting is harder on a car than being used.
100% that people should have to understand that if
you don't drive it, that that machine was built to be
driven to be used.
If you don't drive it, you're going to have
problems more than when you drive it.
Especially first thing that fails along with
carburetors because of the ethanol, if I could
give an advice for everybody listening here, don't
care much about octane, you have octane boosters,
you buy and add to the tank.
Be concerned about no ethanol.
And you can buy that at certain gas stations and
also like at Napa, you can buy a like high
performance 103, 113 octane fuel at Napa that has
no ethanol in it.
And people don't realize that the water, the
moisture in ethanol is, you know, what exhaust
systems it's bad for.
And it's just so many things that it creates
that, and especially it's fine.
The new cars are designed for it and that's
okay, whatever, whatever.
But the older ones are not.
And Alex and I, we have a huge experience on
ethanol because Brazil was the first nation in
the world, and I think it's still the thing that
there's a record of having 98% of its fleet.
And we are talking fleet of probably 90 million
cars, right?
Right.
98% of the fleet was using ethanol only.
Wow.
And we know all the, if I remember the
Volkswagen Beetle that bought new on 1982,
1980, brand new Beetle.
Right.
Right.
Brand new, but 100% on ethanol.
My mom went through trying to get us to school.
She went through three batteries because on
a cold day, Brazilian cold, we're talking
by 40, right?
Yeah, baby.
If so, if so, maybe 45.
Right.
The car doesn't start.
So and you had a kind of a pump, like a
windshield, not like a Volkswagen put a
windshield washer pump in a gasoline
reservoir that before, before starting
the car, you had to prime.
No kidding.
Oh, yeah.
Never heard of that.
Oh, yeah.
I've never heard of that.
Not only Volkswagen, all the, all
Brazil has and had all the major
manufacturers for Chevrolet, Volkswagen
and whatever.
So when the ethanol thing came up, it
was back in 1978.
Fiat with the 147 model, there is the
first model to use full ethanol.
Right.
And on 1988, that bought the 1980
Volkswagen Beetle.
Beautiful.
Red.
Red.
Beautiful.
Fancy.
Fancy.
And then what happened was, before
starting the car, cold days, or not
even that cold, you press the button in
the dashboard and you listen to whee,
whee, like I mean, she was right.
The mechanism was the same.
And then you prime it and then you
start, but good luck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and, you know, it's, I'm
sure Brazil was like Florida when
it was 60 degrees.
Exactly.
Mom got out the fur coat when it
was 60, right?
So that's so funny.
So in the service end of your
all's business up and is it repeat
clients, the same cars you see, are
you kind of the caretaker of a lot of
these guys' cars and you just see
them from time to time?
Or is it always different or you
don't have people to stop in on the
side of the road and say, hey, I
got to knock in my engine out here.
Fortunately, we are really big.
Right.
We have a waiting list and the
most part of them is repeat
customers that restore or they
want to restore more than one
car.
And we work, you know, already
we do full restoration with
small service oil change.
So we do all this.
But we have all.
But I have to say that we are
really busy and we can see that
is a trend in the business.
Everybody that do good
restoration, they are.
Because we all heard the horror
stories of restorations where
the guy shows up at the shop
and he's paid the restoration
company a lot of money and
nothing's been done.
Yeah, please.
Yeah.
This is very important.
Don't don't pay any money in
advance.
Of course, some restoration shop
they own a 10,000 deposit
or something like that.
But don't pay a huge one.
Follow the restoration.
We encourage all our clients
to visit us to see weekly
once a month.
And we also send pictures.
This is very important because
it's if you trust in some
place that's not going to do
a good job for you to redone.
We'll be more time and much
more extra.
We hate when we have cars
that somebody put their hands
and it's there.
Oh, you got to start over.
Basically, yeah, you don't know
what you to face.
Right. You're going to find.
Right. This is a nightmare,
yeah, especially when you have
the alignment over the body.
Right. People don't realize
that you have to the body
again and you have to
repaint the car.
And nothing like telling a
rich guy that he's got to
spend money twice on something,
right? Yeah.
And that's the thing.
People don't understand that
that the guys that you I mean,
I'm sure people do understand
this, but the guys that you do
restorations for are usually
captains of industry and business
titans and wealthy individuals
are used to getting what they
want, when they want it and how
they want it. Right.
And so they don't settle for
second best and they don't
settle for halfway and they
don't settle for they don't
settle for anything.
They don't settle.
We have all kind of clients,
to be honest.
And but some clients in the
beginning, especially is the
first restoration.
We have kind of guide them
through the process.
First of all, it's important to
be open and explain what they
gonna it's a restoration,
how we work.
Maybe we are not the right
place for that.
If they want to do I want to
something quick.
It's not a phone call.
No, we are not the right place.
We we we do the best possible
and you have all people love.
We have clients that visit us
and follow their restoration week
and that we enjoy.
It's part of the process.
Right.
It's fun for them, I would
imagine.
You know, you watching watching
your baby getting resurrected,
especially if you bought it and
it was, you know, barn fine
condition when you got it,
like some of our cars that we
have here.
When he bought the car new.
Right.
Oh, wow.
Father's cars.
We we we had a client that
restored because it was
father's car and he won an
honor to sure.
And the thing that you have to
be careful in the restoration
business is explaining to a
person who's who's a son
who's going to restore his
father's cars that in order to
restore this back to the way
you want it, you're going to
spend more than the cars
probably going to be worse.
But you have to do it from here
and I'm patting my heart for
those of you can.
You have to do it from your
heart and your gut that you
want to do.
It's why I tell people don't
buy cars as an investment.
If you happen to make a
profit on it when you sell it
then glory be and happy to
you buy it because you love
it.
Right.
You have to enjoy.
Yeah, you have to enjoy it.
It has to be for a reason.
Yeah.
That's why you see four door,
you know, 45, 44 Christ
or 41 Christlers that have,
you know, a hundred point
restoration.
But what we have seen is
when you face and you see
on the auction when you see
a car perfectly store,
I wouldn't say that the car
will bring the money that we
invest.
But the top price car
and the people watch TV
see Barry Jackson and me
and other options and the
absolutely same car.
Let's say why so
different in price is about
detail.
Exactly.
And you might you may have
the four door sedan that
brings the world record money
because because of the
because of the restoration.
When we return,
we'll continue the
conversation with the brothers
and we'll talk a little bit
more about all things
automotive.
We'll be back in just a minute
and we're back with the
Classic Auto Mall podcast
from the Classic Auto Mall
Studios in Morgantown,
Pennsylvania on a beautiful
sunshine in February the 18th.
Gosh, we've had no
winter this year.
We've been so lucky.
I think, you know,
none at all.
And and, you know,
we live in Pennsylvania.
You think we would have
snow all the time?
Of course, you guys from
Brazil.
I mean, I imagine when it's
down to 50, you know,
then that's too cold.
Absolutely no snow.
No, yeah.
So we were just talking
about Formula One and one
of my favorite drivers,
Ayrton Senna, who's a big,
a big South American,
probably the most famous
South American driver,
I guess.
And in Brazil,
he's a really high.
Yeah, people.
You can see the images
when he died.
Right.
But it was interesting
because where we live in
Sao Paulo, we are almost
neighbor, really,
with his family.
No kidding.
And he built a building
and close our place
that we live, the same neighborhood.
Right.
And we know the
construct.
Nice.
And the constructor told us
that he thought
that the parking area
access was very narrow.
Right.
And he met Ayrton Senna
over there because he was a
developer and he said,
oh, I think his entry is so narrow
and it's a different floor.
And Ayrton Senna took his,
I think, was an Audi.
Right.
And in reverse, full speed.
He came back and said, no,
I think it's OK.
I think it'll work.
But you are Ayrton Senna.
Yeah, if he could drive through it.
Right.
Well, no different than going
to the Degum Philadelphia Airport
parking lot.
Sometimes you feel like, oh,
it's so narrow
and you're trying to get in.
And but but you guys,
it was funny that you guys
even growing up in Brazil,
still really appreciated Michael
Schumacher and what he did
in a Formula One car.
He was amazing by number.
He he was.
Yeah, no quite even better
than Louis Hamilton, I think.
Oh, because of the air
and the time and the competition
and all that.
Lewis came at a time
when there wasn't quite.
He came at a perfect time.
He was like, you know,
Phil Mickelson came at the wrong
time and golf because Tiger
was just coming into golf.
You know, Mickelson's like,
God, if I just been 10 years
younger or 10 years older, you know,
I think that's what a lot
of the guys said when they came
in with Lewis Lewis came
at the right time when a lot of races.
But it'll be the right time,
the right team. Exactly.
Everything. Yes.
So what's your prediction for this year?
What do you think is going to happen?
Yeah, Red Bull is strong.
Red Bull is strong.
But who knows?
I hope Ferrari is back.
I want Ferrari to do well.
I'd love Ferrari.
And by coincidence,
I think we have a deep attachment.
Our grandfather,
he's from Ita, right?
And he was born in Modena.
So.
Well, well, your accent
almost sounds Italian sometimes.
There are certain things
that you say that sound Italian to me.
I was guessing that you were from
Italy until I found out you were from
Zill. But yeah, our grandfather,
he's from Italy, right?
From Modena.
Have you been to Modena?
Have you been to the
Ferrari? Have you been to the
Ferrari factory and all that?
The museum.
It's really, I mean, it's funny
because outside you have some
private companies, they rent, right?
But I remember I was with my son
and we are through the roads
and the roads very narrow.
It's a skinny soul, right?
And suddenly, I don't remember
what I was, but was a car
that Ferrari was testing.
Well, I don't remember, but was,
you know, when they testing cars,
they put the black and I saw.
I stopped the car and almost cried.
I said, oh, my, they test the car here.
Oh, those crazy roads.
I got I got to meet Balboni,
the test driver for Lamborghini
and interesting guy,
your test drove all the Lamborghinis
from all the 80s and 90s.
And, you know, Diablos and Coutaches.
What a great job.
Oh, what do you got to do today?
Well, I got to go drive a fast car
as fast as I try to break it.
I got to try to break the car.
That's that's my job.
Drive without feeling guilt.
It's just you have to push the car.
I work for a rich guy one time.
We had a bunch of really cool cars
and everybody said, oh, so great.
You get to drive all these cars.
I go, it's a nightmare.
I said, if I wreck a three hundred
thousand dollar car, I got to move out of the country.
I can't afford to I can't afford to pay for this.
And it's amazing how these drivers,
they are because they can feel the car.
And I tell my brother is my hate
when my brother drive my car, right?
Because he can say, oh, you're you're
rear left is flat.
So it's your this that my goodness.
How can you know all these things?
I'm trying to control my mouth.
I'm going to say that.
All right.
So that leads me to my next question.
Alex, what's your daily driver?
Oh, that's I drive my my my Dodge Rack.
Oh, gotcha.
And the point is, as we have all kind of cars,
some weekends, we take one of our right.
Got you.
So I live in a house with two car
garage. It's my wife's car that is a Mercedes G.L.
Right.
And I have the Dodge run.
So during the weekends, when we want to have fun,
I use, for example, Ford Farley.
Oh, convertible.
Yeah.
And I love the fifth.
Sure.
And but my my favorite is the the thirties,
the luxury cars.
Sure.
Those are the pack cars.
The car is letting period.
Love the Chrysler and period.
Yeah, they are beautiful.
But usually you my daily driver is my dodge.
Yeah.
All right, Al.
The question goes to you.
Same question.
I drive an Alfa Romeo Giulia.
Wow.
You're a real car guy.
Yes.
And you have a lot of tools that you keep with you.
How did you know?
Oh, well, I'm a good guesser, you know.
Yeah, but it's very nimble.
It's fast.
They're fun cars to drive.
Very fun.
I think they really did a very good work on that.
I would love to have the quadrifoglio.
Oh, yes.
But at the same time, as Alex said,
I mean, we have the chance to drive
different cars for the weekends and etc.
And on daily basis, we need a all wheel drive
because thank God this will last winter.
We do not have to go, but we always have to be prepared.
Yeah.
I drive my rusty old 2001 Yukon
more than I drive anything else
because I can throw anything in the back of it
and go to get parts or go to get something.
And you don't care if you get dinged
in the parking lot or any of that.
And I drove the daily drive.
You need appliance.
You need appliance.
Something that is easy, fast.
Exactly. No trouble.
Yeah. The classic car, you have to have time.
You have to enjoy.
You have to feel the car.
Absolutely.
But I have to admit we had yesterday
we delivered back a Rolls-Royce Silver Sport.
1985, the new owner bought it here.
Oh, classic all the time.
He's very happy.
Good. That was my next question.
He's very happy.
And he took to us because he bought it here,
enjoyed three, four thousand miles
and bring to us for an oil change.
Right.
And I had to do the test drive
after the oil change to see if everything is OK.
What a fantastic car.
I think that the next in my list is probably
I know people say, oh, those are big gold,
beautiful looking Rolls-Royce.
Oh, they're great cars.
They are great.
And there's nothing like a Rolls-Royce.
Right. No. And smooth as silk and and iconic.
You know, we tend to because we're in the business,
we see so many cool things that 80s,
70s and 80s Rolls-Royce Silver Shadows are like,
OK, we've seen a bunch of those.
No big deal.
Then you stop and go, wait a minute.
That's a really great car.
And when I saw it new, I was, oh, my God.
You know, it was a whole different reaction to it.
It's like the 77 Corvette.
It was underpowered.
I say this all the time.
It was underpowered.
It was this and that.
But when my writer, Peter writes about one,
it makes me stop and look at it again and go,
regardless of the power, it's a sexy car.
You know, and it's not a very, you know, not a not a high dollar.
So what do you like in the new car world?
What what gets your trip your trigger that you see
running around on the roads of Allentown or anywhere else you are?
Well, I'm the most impressive cars
I think we have driven.
I don't know you, Alex, but I think was the C8 Corvette.
Right.
Amazing car, an amazing car and amazing feeling.
I know that the engineers at GM, they said that they were
targeting Ferrari 458.
Right.
And they did a wonderful job.
Probably was the most impressive car and reliable and reliable.
If you think about it, I mean, one of the things that
steered me away from buying a used Ferrari is the fact
that they're expensive to work on.
And their their tolerances are very, very minuscule
and they have to be just right or they're wrong.
Yeah.
And so it scares you, you know, because you don't want to be
the guy who has to say recent $25,000 service.
That would be out of my pocket.
And people say all the time, oh, you don't need to have
a Ferrari who have the performance in a C8.
Yes.
But it's like wine.
I don't know much about wine.
I drink some wines that I like to taste.
But for a connoisseur, you know, the notes, the pallets
and this and that, that too much work.
Yeah, I just want it good.
I buy by the label and the price.
Yeah, if it's fit, if it's within the price range that
I'm comfortable with and it's got a cool label, that's
going to be the next one in my case.
You know, each car has its own soul.
So when you drive a Ferrari, you have a feeling that
you're not going to have with a Corvette.
I'm not saying that's better or not.
Right.
It's just feel different.
Absolutely.
It's the same with Porsche.
So if you drive one in a Ferrari or a Corvette,
totally different.
So you have to like the way.
Right.
What I love about you guys is your passion.
And it comes across in just talking to you about the
hobby and the history of it and all that.
Because if you don't have that passion, we have
people who come in here and they're angry when
they walk in the door.
For some reason, they haven't just first time they
ever been here and they're just angry people.
And it's like, come on, this is classic cars.
Nobody needs anything we have in this building,
but everybody wants it.
But if you're not having fun, what's the point?
You know, if you're not enjoying what you're
doing, that's I'm sure what made you kind of
think about a career change.
Right.
Oh, of course.
And definitely not.
Yeah, for sure.
But in the end, when you do something that you really
like and the work with my brother for us is great.
Well, my wife works right next to me in our
office and we spend all day every day together
and it works out perfectly for not everybody
can do that.
And I'm sure they ask you a lot of times.
How can you do that?
Yeah, you work with your brother.
I'm not crazy, guys.
Yeah, we enjoy it.
Well, you probably both have your strengths and that's
important that you can combine two people that have
a like-minded goal, but each one has a different
strength, you know, and my partner is as polar
opposite as I am the whole wide world.
He's a farmer from, you know, Pennsylvania
and he is brilliant smart and he says those
things that when he says it doesn't knock you
over, but about an hour later you go, what did
he say?
Oh my God.
That was, I mean, and we've been partners for five
and a half years and never had a disagreement,
never had a crossword, never had, we're like brothers,
you know, and it's an amazing thing to have
that kind of relationship with somebody in business
because it's or in personal as well, too.
It's very difficult.
Oh, very difficult.
And I think the secret is work with a person
that is different.
My brother and I, we are, we are different.
Right.
We sometimes we think different, but you have
to respect that and you have to learn.
Absolutely.
A lot of people, they are simply close to all
new ideas, so you don't change, right?
You don't, you don't grow, you know, you have
to have the ability of a separate respect
and see if you are right or wrong.
Listen, guys, this has been so much fun
and we will definitely do it again
because we have plenty more to talk about.
I didn't even get to anything on my list
because we just talk and that's the best
kind of ways to do these podcasts.
So, so anyway, thanks again.
And by the way, to find you guys on the
web, it's rbcarcollection.com, right?
Yes.
And you guys are in Allentown, just go
on the Internet, you can see their inventory.
They've got cars for sale.
They've got information about their service
and their restoration abilities.
Thank you very much, Rick.
And please, you don't know this place.
Please, you have to.
It's crazy.
Absolutely amazing.
Thank you.
It's unique in the world.
Come and see it.
Thank you so much, guys.
Great to have you on.
Catch you all later next week.
We'll have somebody on the show
that will talk about something
about cars, probably.
We'll see you next time.
Bye bye.
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About this episode
Stewart Howden hosts a lively discussion with brothers Al and Alex Ruozzi from RB Collection, who share their experiences in classic car restoration and sales. They delve into the nuances of the classic car market, emphasizing the importance of authenticity in restorations and the passion that drives collectors. The episode also highlights the unique challenges of sourcing parts and the joy of restoring cars that hold sentimental value. Listeners will gain insights into the restoration process, the evolving classic car landscape, and the brothers' personal favorites in the automotive world.
Archive show #076 airdate 02-18-23 Stewart is joined by Al & Alex Ruozzi, The Ruozzi Brothers of RB Collection in Allentown, PA discussing their early life in Brazil, coming to America and their affiliation with the America on Wheels Museum where admission can include a free tour of their restoration shop. https://americaonwheels.org/
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