Classic Auto Mall - #085 - Stewart Howden with Steve Saffier
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Concept
no reserve auction
In a no reserve auction, the item is sold to whoever bids the most, even if that amount is lower than what the seller hoped for. It's a way to ensure the item sells, but it can be risky for the seller.
Company
Barrett Jackson
Barrett Jackson is a famous auction house where people buy and sell classic cars. They hold big events where many unique cars are sold to the highest bidder.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and stylish sports car that many people love. It's famous for being powerful and fun to drive, and some versions can be very valuable, especially if they've been customized.
Concept
restomod
A restomod is an old car that has been fixed up and updated with new parts to make it better to drive. It keeps the classic look but has modern features.
Concept
Formula One
Formula One is a type of car racing where specially designed cars race on tracks. It's famous for its speed and the skill of the drivers.
Term
tires
Tires are the round rubber parts on cars that touch the road. They help the car grip the road and are important for driving safely and quickly.
Term
numbers matching
'Numbers matching' means that the main parts of the car, like the engine, are the same ones that came with it when it was first made. This is important for collectors who want original cars.
Term
NCRS Top Flight
NCRS Top Flight is a special award for Corvettes that are really well restored and kept original. A score of 96.1 means it's in excellent condition.
Term
cubic inch
Cubic inch is a way to measure how big an engine is. A 350 cubic inch engine is a strong engine often found in powerful cars.
Car
Austin Healey 104 BN2 Roadster
The Austin Healey 104 BN2 Roadster is a classic car from 1956. It's a small, sporty vehicle with a four-cylinder engine, and only 4600 of them were made, making it quite special.
Term
heritage certificate
A heritage certificate is a paper that proves what a classic car was like when it was first made, including its original color. It can help show that the car is genuine and can affect how much it's worth.
Car
Packard
Packard was a company that made high-end cars in the past. Their cars are now considered classic and can be very valuable to collectors.
Car
Duesenberg
Duesenberg was a brand that made very fancy and powerful cars a long time ago. Their cars are now considered very valuable and collectible.
Car
Austin Healey
The Austin Healey is a well-known sports car from Britain. It usually has a manual transmission with four gears, which means you have to change gears yourself while driving.
Term
automatic transmission
An automatic transmission is a system in cars that changes gears automatically, so the driver doesn't have to do it manually. It's easier to drive, especially in traffic.
Term
five speed manual
A five-speed manual is a type of car transmission that lets you choose from five different speeds. This helps the car perform better and can save fuel compared to older transmissions that only had three or four speeds.
Term
muscle cars
Muscle cars are fast cars with big engines, usually American-made, that are built for speed and power. They became popular in the 1960s and 70s for their ability to go really fast in a straight line.
Term
five speeds
Five speeds means the car has five different gears to choose from when driving. This helps the car perform better and save fuel depending on how fast you're going.
Term
six speeds
Six speeds means the car has six different gears to use when driving. This can help the car go faster and use less fuel depending on how fast you're driving.
Term
seven speeds
Seven speeds means the car has seven different gears to choose from when driving. This helps the car perform better and can save fuel depending on your speed.
Car
Franklin 145 series
The Franklin 145 series is a car model made by Franklin in 1930. It was known for being different because it had an air-cooled engine instead of the more common water-cooled engines.
Term
Lockheed hydraulic drum brakes
Lockheed hydraulic drum brakes are a type of brake system that uses fluid to help stop the car. They were considered advanced for cars made in the early 20th century.
Car
Franklin
Franklin was a car brand that made unique cars with special engines that didn't need water to cool down. They aren't made anymore, so you don't see them often.
Concept
barn find
A barn find is a car that someone finds in a barn or garage after it has been sitting there for a long time. These cars can be special because they might be rare or have interesting histories, but they usually need a lot of work to get them running again.
Car
Model A Ford
The Model A Ford is a car made by Ford between 1927 and 1931. It was one of the first cars that many people could afford and is now considered a classic.
Car
Ford Model A Ford
The Ford Model T is one of the first cars that regular people could buy, and it changed how cars were made. It's very old, so fixing one can be tricky, but it's a big part of car history.
Car
BMW Z3
The BMW Z3 is a small sports car that you can drive with the top down. It was made in the late 1990s and early 2000s and is loved for being fun to drive.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular sports car that has been around since the late 1960s. The 1969 version is known for its powerful engines and stylish looks.
Term
crate motor
A crate motor is a complete engine that you can buy and put into a car. It's like getting a ready-made engine instead of building one from scratch.
Concept
Shelby
Shelby is a name associated with a famous car designer named Carroll Shelby, who made fast versions of Ford cars.
Term
427
The 427 is a type of engine size that means it has 427 cubic inches of space inside. This size is known for being very powerful, especially in muscle cars.
Car
Nash Lafayette
The Nash Lafayette is a car made by Nash in 1936. It's a type of coupe that was built for business use, meaning it had a larger interior for carrying things.
Car
BMW Z4
The BMW Z4 is a fancy car that you can drive with the top down, making it feel like a sports car. It's designed to be fun to drive and looks really nice, which is why people talk about it.
Car
Mini Cooper
The Mini Cooper is a small car that is fun to drive and has a unique look. It's well-known and loved by many people.
Car
BMW Z8 Bmw
Car
Alpina Z8
The Alpina Z8 is a special, upgraded version of a BMW sports car that looks really cool and goes really fast. It's not very common, which makes it a car that many people dream of owning.
Car
Mercedes-Benz 420 SEL
The Mercedes-Benz 420 SEL is a really nice, high-end car that was made to be super comfortable and full of cool features. It's a car that people who like luxury often talk about.
Car
Buick Le Sabre
The Buick LeSabre is a big, comfortable car that many families used to drive. It's known for being reliable and easy to ride in, which is why it comes up in conversations about older cars.
Car
Honda That Honda
The Honda That's is a small car that was made mainly for Japan. It's designed to be easy to drive and park, making it a practical choice for city driving.
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This is the Classic Automall Show.
Broadcast from the studios inside the Classic Automall in Morgantown, Pennsylvania.
Just one hour west of Philadelphia at Pennsylvania Turnpike Exit 298.
Featuring nearly 1,000 classic vintage and barred fight vehicles for sale under one climate controlled roof.
Now, here's your host, Classic Automall President and the man with all the toys, Stuart Howden.
Now I have to say good afternoon because we're recording in the afternoon instead of the morning. Good afternoon Steve.
It's weird. It's weird. It's odd. I'm feeling, I'm hungry actually. You messed into my lunchtime.
So we're recording on Friday the 21st of April, show number 85.
We normally record on Saturdays although we're going to be maybe switching to Fridays.
It's our new thing. We're flexible. Whatever you want to do.
As long as we can get a guest or somebody to be on the show, then we'll do it anytime.
We'll be at 2 a.m. on a Thursday.
I'm just looking for a camper or a tent or somewhere where I can hang out at night.
I'm sorry. We have a 188 room hotel that's connected. Directly connected with Walkthrough Access nonetheless.
That's right.
Busy couple of weeks. We've been crazy here. 13 consignments came in yesterday.
Wow.
For a Thursday. Yeah. Just a random Thursday. The weather was nice which always helps.
But 13 is an unusual amount of cars to be coming in.
Especially this time of year because there are other options for people.
We can't hide our head in the sand and say we're the only option to save a classic car.
But we're the best. Right.
So we can say that. We just can't say we're the only.
As a matter of fact, Carlisle Auctions is going on this week.
And a lot of times we'll have guys who will take their car out to try it at the auction format.
Sometimes they have success. Sometimes they don't. It just depends.
Sometimes we notice this a lot when we look at the auction business in general from Meekam Auction and Barrett Jackson and all those.
Some things do better there and some things do better here.
And some things do about the same. And so there's really no rhyme or reason to it.
So, you know, I don't discourage people from taking their car there.
But if you take it there and it bids to half of what you wanted and then you bring it back here,
you probably got to rethink your pricing here because it looks like, you know,
that's what the market is saying about that particular vehicle.
But again, there is no rhyme or reason to it. That's the boon and the bane of it.
I guess the quickest way because I think about cars that have been here for a few months.
You know, the sellers are like, hey, what's happening with my car and everything?
I think if you're in a rush, I guess the quickest way is just to go to auction without reserve.
Yeah, you can do that without reserve. And it's a risk.
You know, for every car that you see sell at Barrett Jackson, no reserve.
And it's a home run and they get $700,000 for a Resto Mod Corvette.
There's also the guy who goes, man, I sure thought my car would have done better.
You know, here I'm at Barrett Jackson. There's 5,000 registered bidders.
But if you've got the right car and you have, you know, if you have Cajones,
then you can take it there and, you know, hopefully get the right price.
And there are guys that are really good at that, but they're professionals.
You know, they do it for a living. It's not, you know, some random Joe who goes there and says,
oh, well, put my car in their no reserve and then it falls on its face.
And what he realizes is that the other guys did was that not only did they take the car early
and consign it early to Barrett Jackson, I'm talking months and months and months early
so you can, you can enjoy all their advertising, but he also self-promoted the car as well too.
Whereas he was, you know, ran an ad in a paper saying, hey, or in a magazine,
this car is going to be a Barrett Jackson. It run a number of this and it's going to be there.
And they promote it, promote it, promote it, promote it.
If you're an individual, you don't have the opportunity to do that.
I mean, it's just like with what we do on consignment.
Nobody could afford to do this themselves.
Right.
You couldn't go out, if you advertise your car the way that we advertise it
and did everything that we do, which we charge you zero for,
you would spend $3,000 or $4,000.
Now, it doesn't mean that we pay $3,000 or $4,000 for that,
but it means that that's what it would cost you to do that
and with no guarantee that it would sell.
Just because you put it out there doesn't mean that it's, you know, that it's going to sell.
I was looking at just a local paper in Bucks County just to put an ad in
and like a quarter page is like $500 a week.
I'm like, how can anybody afford that?
Well, you look at these full page ads and newspapers and you think, you know,
how do they afford that?
But, you know, it's like anything.
We have the luxury of volume.
You know, we do so much volume with so many of these online sites,
Hemingsandclassicars.com and Auto Trader Classics and all the different things.
And we get a discounted rate because we do that kind of volume with them.
I mean, if you put your car on Hemings, I think it's $79 to put it on there for a month
and then, you know, again, no guarantee that it's going to sell.
Plus, you've got to deal with the phone calls.
You've got to deal with all the phone calls and tire kickers
and the people that are going to tell you what's wrong with your car
and what's wrong with you and what's wrong with life in general.
They're going to interrupt your dinner and then they're going to want to give you a cashier's check
that was freshly printed hours earlier.
We had a weird thing with our checking account.
We had checks come in like 10 checks come into our checking account
and our bank approved them.
And the irony is, is that, so we get these 10 checks that are on our,
my wife looks at the bank every morning,
actually more than every morning.
She looks at it all day long.
And there's 10 checks in there that are approved
and we finally get a copy of them after, you know, three or four days
and we've disputed it and blah, blah, blah.
It's got our account number at the bottom,
but it's got a different name of the company in the top left corner
and a different bank than we bank with.
But yet it was a check that our bank somehow allowed to get through.
It's just one of those things.
So there's pitfalls people.
Yeah.
And if you don't know all these pitfalls or you don't have a way to circumvent them,
I mean, how would you like to be an individual and lose your whole savings account
because you, you know, somebody got your information
and they wanted to wire the money and bing, bang, boom.
All your money's gone.
We're the firewall.
We are.
We're the firewall.
We, the nice thing about what we do is not only are we the firewall for that,
but we are the, oh, somebody's calling me.
We are the firewall for once the car is sold.
By the way, somebody's always calling you.
No, it's.
If you weren't in here, you didn't have that phone to your ear.
Yeah.
It's, I get, people get leave these hateful messages
during when we were recording the show, like, I called you an hour ago.
Okay.
I'm, I'm a minor consigner.
I get calls all the time.
Yeah.
You know, I'm minor.
It's unbelievable how much, how many times the phone rings in a day.
So, but anyway, um, you know, yeah, that, no, that's okay.
We, uh, you know, look at what we do is not only do we take that headache out of it,
but we take the headache out of once you sell the car.
Classic automobile buys it from you.
So we buy the car from you and then we resell it to the new buyer.
So it's not two strangers trying to do a deal together, the consigner and the new buyer.
And so once you sell it to us, you're done.
I mean, unless you've stolen the car or frauders, you know, something along those lines.
We'll know.
Yeah.
It's as is where it is.
And so once you sell it to us, then we're done.
And we have ways of knowing these things as well too, because we have, uh, checks and
balances with regards to VIN numbers and, and state, uh, sponsored, uh, programs that
we can get into and look at and make sure that there's not any problems and that the
person buying the car is of reputable, you know, not, uh, somebody who's going to do
something harmful to somebody someday.
So, um, you know, we, we, we're very cautious and careful about how we do this process because
there's, like I said, there's a lot of pitfalls and I'm not trying to discourage you completely,
but somewhat.
But you got to ship it, ship it up and ship it back.
You know, all that stuff.
So speaking of sold cars, where do we sell cars this week?
This was only one week and that was actually one day less.
So, you know, cause you threw me off by recording on Friday.
Normally I get the whole day of Friday.
So excuse me, I'm kind of a little indigestion.
I'll edit that out.
No, you won't.
You always say that and you never do.
Um, so where we sold cars this past week, which is a short one day week, uh, we sold
13 cars, Hamburg, Pennsylvania, Pompineau, Florida, Newark, Ohio, Glenside, Pennsylvania,
Cape May, courthouse, New Jersey.
That's a long mouthful.
Shavertown, Pennsylvania, Blackwood, New Jersey, Dubois, Pennsylvania, North Branch, Michigan,
Pompineau, Florida, Raleigh, North Carolina, Manhasset, New York and Tacoma, Washington.
One, two, three, four, five, six, eight.
What?
Eight.
Nine.
Nine different states.
Eight out of 13.
Eight states.
The least expensive car, $10,000.
Most expensive cars, almost 70.
So that was a kind of a spread that we had for the weekend.
We got some great stuff in.
We really did.
Oh, and thanks again to the Pat Traverspan.
We can't say that enough.
Little Feet is going to be in Jim Thorpe on Sunday.
Don't look at me like I just went out on a ramp.
I don't know Little Feet.
Little Feet.
Give me a song.
Give me a song.
Dixie Chicken?
What?
Dixie Chicken.
Dixie Chicken.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Oh, never mind.
Sorry.
Is that a Southern?
Is it Southern?
Sort of, but it should be a national thing.
It's like Leonard Skinner.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, I've never heard of Leonard Skinner.
Well, have you been in a cave for your entire life?
I'll never forget that growing up, we were into Leonard Skinner.
We were kids.
And then we got into high school and we were too cool for Skinner.
And I went to Los Angeles in 1981.
I was at the Rainbow Bar and Grill.
They're playing Skinner.
And I go, hmm, if LA thinks it's cool, maybe I should rethink my coolness factor of Leonard
Skinner.
And so, and as I've always said, in the radio business in East Tennessee, every other phone
call would be the guy calling up, play Skinner.
And we'd hang up the phone and laugh at those rubes and think, you know, how stupid are they?
They don't know anything and blah, blah.
In the meantime, 50% of our phone calls were for guys asking to play Leonard Skinner.
Why didn't we listen to him?
We should have listened.
We were not that smart for not listening to him.
So anyway, thanks to the Pat Travers Band for allowing us to use one of my favorite
songs, Offbeat Ride.
And, you know, it was, it was funny trying to go through the process of getting a song.
That was an interesting process.
We found his manager somewhere.
Yeah.
We found his manager and he was like, I'll just use it, whatever, you know, and then
he actually came back and he was really cool and, and it, but, you know, I mean, I'm sure
they get requests like that all the time.
And then we went to some band who was really obscure and I won't mention names.
And we said, we'd like to use your song and they're like, yeah, it's $10,000 and $1,000
a month.
And you got to pay us this one every time.
Like, what?
I mean, you know, I bet you haven't made that much off of their entire catalog since day
one.
And now you want me to pay that much for a song to play on this little, little old
podcast.
And anyway, we, we'd, we'd diminish what we do here, but it's only because it's true.
We don't do anything here.
We don't even know how many people are listening to it.
Me and you are.
Kurt's here.
He's listening and people out there.
Brie looks like she's listening.
So yeah, I think she's listening.
She's like, all right, four.
That's four.
We got four.
So we know that we got four people listening.
So anyway, 923 consignments in inventory.
And as I said, yesterday took in 13 consignments, which was probably close to a record in one
day.
I'm sure the office, I was gone all day.
I was at Carlisle.
So, you know, so Carlisle's got their auction and swap me going on.
And we have a booth set up in both places.
We sponsor the staging lane at Carlisle Auctions, which is Thursday and Friday of this week,
the 20th and 21st of April.
And the staging lane is where all the cars come into, they get wiped down before they
go across the auction block.
And, and that's our area.
And then we also have some booth space and set up in the swap meet area of Carlisle as
well, too.
We've been doing it for five years and great organization.
The Miller family does a fantastic job with Carlisle and, you know, they're easy to work
with.
And they do a lot of events.
I mean, they, you know, not only there, they've got Allentown, they do the swap meet in January
and then they've got the spring and fall Carlisle and then Mopar and GM and all that.
They do a thing down in Florida.
They do the automobile in Allentown.
So lots of stuff going on there.
Yeah.
And a great facility and like I said, a great family that runs it and Tony Klein who runs
their auction is a great guy.
And I want to say thank you to Tony because he did me a solid today and I appreciate that.
I bought a little toy for Kathy.
Okay.
You know, similar to the little toy.
Yeah.
I think we have a little toy in me.
Maybe I wasn't even thinking of you having one or just recently buying one when I bought
it.
Yeah.
It just came across a block and it seemed like it was the right deal at the right place
at the right time and had all the checked all the boxes and I thought it'd be fun to
drive it around a little bit and it's an automatic.
So it's, you know, I mean, listen, I love a manual transmission.
Don't get me wrong.
Right.
But it's convertible, too.
Yeah.
It's a convertible.
So I learned something the other day about convertibles.
Oh, great.
After driving.
Thanks.
Thanks for telling me.
Driving through Radar.
Wear sunscreen.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not allowed out of the house without sunscreen.
I'm literally at all.
And we'd have 30 seconds.
And what else did I learn?
Oh, yeah.
Wear a hat.
Yeah.
Because, you know, I don't have a windscreen on mine yet.
I don't have one on my Porsche either.
So it blows back.
Yeah.
And it creates whatever that's called.
It's not a vortex, but it's like a reverse osmosis.
Whatever it is, it blows the back of your head.
Not a reverse osmosis.
Well, however fast you're going, that's how fast the wind is.
And that's funny how that works.
That's really interesting.
Yeah.
We had a great guest last week, Corky Coker.
Yeah, Corky.
Corky Coker was great.
When he did a spit take, too.
That's never happened.
We'll have to get it in slow motion.
I tried to slow it down.
It is so fast.
Really?
Yeah.
I tried to, I slowed it down to 25%.
And it's still, you still can see the coffee coming out.
Oh, we've got to see it spurting out of his nose.
I know.
It's got to be like super slow-mo.
Super slow-mo.
If we had the fancy equipment, we could do that, right?
Well, we, I don't think we'll ever have that fancy equipment.
Yeah, those cameras, those slow-mo cameras are ridiculous, like a billion dollars.
Isn't it amazing though, when you watch some of that slow-mo footage of sport stuff, especially,
is just, when they just capture every set, or watch the Formula One cars going around
a corner and they slow it down to, you know, one-one-hundredths of whatever.
And it's amazing the flex and all the stuff that you see.
Or the drag strips, you know, the drag strips.
Oh, and the tires.
Yep, yep.
The tires, when they just stand up.
That's really cool.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
So, yeah, we had a good week of consignments and a good week of sales last week and some
great new inventory we've got in.
We've got a 72 Corvette Coupe, war bonnet yellow over saddle, which is an unusual color combination.
I like the yellowish, goldish color with saddle.
Okay.
You don't, I can tell.
NCRS Top Flight 96.1 point winner out of a hundred.
Numbers matching 350 cubic inch, 200 horsepower V8.
We've got the window sticker, the judging sheets, near flawless paint.
Not flawless, near flawless.
You can't say flawless.
You can't say flawless because you'll find a flaw.
There's going to be a flaw somewhere.
No car is flaw free.
We've got some pretty nice ones here.
We've got some really nice ones.
And I'm not diminishing a well done car or a great car.
I'm just saying that there's always some little something, you know, there's always something
you can find.
Sure.
So anyway, what a great car.
Also, a 1956 Austin Healy 104, BN2 Roadster, Reno Red Over Black, one of 4600 built, 24
years ownership with the current owner, 2600 cc four cylinder, it's got the manuals and
the British Heritage Certificate, which is kind of like the Marty reporter, the PHS docs
for cars, I mean for cars for British cars.
There's a heritage certificate for Jaguars.
There's the piece Porsche.
There's all kinds of these different things that will tell you how that car was born.
Does it mean that's what it's in the car now?
It means what it was born with and what color it was born as and all of that stuff.
So you might see a car that's black and you get its heritage certificate, whether it be
British Heritage or Jaguar or whatever else.
And you might see that it came originally in green.
And sometimes a color change hurts the value of a car.
And sometimes it doesn't really matter.
You know, what we see like it's funny, these the high high dollar stuff, the Duesenbergs
and the 32 Packards and V12s and all this stuff, sometimes they'll have a color change
and it seems to have no bearing at all on the value and what it's worth and change anything
about it really.
It's it's funny how that is.
So the Austin Healy is a great car, four speed manual with an overdrive, which is important
because four speeds with three pedals is just not enough.
It's just five is five is just pushing it.
Yeah.
Not enough.
I think my Mercedes has 11 speeds.
It's an automatic.
I went to shift yesterday.
I was already in fifth.
I'm like, there's nothing else.
I got nowhere to go.
Where to go?
What do I do?
So yeah, it's it's amazing how we're kind of spoiled with these multi, you know, going
from a three speed manual to, you know, four speed manual, which was kind of the one that
everybody had for many, many, many, many years.
And then at five speed and boy, the five speed manual was like, oh, it just let it was there's
so many cars that could benefit from a fifth gear, especially late sixties, early seventies
muscle cars.
They just get into that fourth gear and they need another gear.
Otherwise they sound like they're about to explode.
They're winding so heavily.
And so then when we got five speeds and then six speeds and now seven speeds and is there
an eight speed manual now that we know?
No, not manual, but automatic plenty of automatic and they do that for fuel mileage and smooth
sailing, smooth sailing.
So you're not revving the engine so crazy.
So speaking of which, I hear something running in the background.
Hark, what is that?
Don't know what it is, but it's something.
Also, we got in a 1930 Franklin 145 series, Victoria, Broome, Sudan.
What a name.
My goodness, long legs, every letter of the alphabet is in that name.
Brown and Butterscotch over Brown.
Innovative air cooled 274 cubic inch inline six air cooled in 1930 was probably an unusual
configuration when you think.
Yeah, couldn't have been many of them.
A Lockheed hydraulic drum brakes, which I don't know what that means.
A silent second three speed manual.
I had no idea.
No idea.
Maybe I should have done podcast at classicalautomall.com.
If I'd done my homework, I wouldn't be acting like I don't know what I'm doing here.
Russ Fri and it's rarely seen, of course you don't rarely see them.
When have you seen a 145 series, Victoria, Broome, Sudan, Franklin, you just don't see
it.
We have a Franklin in our barn find collection.
Okay.
That's going to leave here and go away to barn find collection heaven down in Oaks, PA.
We've already taken 52 of the barn finds out of here.
So they're gone.
They're probably never to return here.
But they'll probably be offered for sale in our theoretical second showroom, if you
will.
So we've got another building in Oaks that will hold about 100 cars.
So we're going to take 100 out of here that probably are not for sale.
My partner really doesn't want to sell and leave the ones here that we're going to thin
the herd.
We've sold literally almost 150 of the barn finds.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it's not like we've been doing nothing, and they're more difficult to sell because
they're older cars and you take a Model A Ford from 1930 and it's hard to restore it
without spending more money than it's worth.
People come in here and said, I know that's not for sale, but would he take XYZ?
And the more of the takeaway, the more they want it.
Sorry, it's never for sale.
But what if it's never for sale?
But if I gave you, no, it's never for sale.
I'll tell you one that is never for sale.
The airplanes for sale.
The airplanes for sale.
The Wright Brothers tribute.
The 23-weedmanship.
Oh, sure.
That's right.
That one's never for sale.
Well, unless, you know, some stupid price.
So my new toy just arrived, which I'm anxious to go see.
It's over, I guess, in the back of the garage area.
And I see my wife looking at me thinking, where's mine?
It's for her, by the way.
I bought this car for her.
Okay.
It's not a stick.
It's an automatic.
She knows how to drive a stick.
She'll tell me that quite frequently and emphatically, actually.
But it's an automatic.
Z3, a 2003.
It's in that dark blueish grayish with a tan interior.
And it's got some miles on it, but, you know, it's got plenty of life left in it.
It'll be a fun one to drive.
What's that, honey?
Nothing but the best.
Yeah, she doesn't get any brand new cars.
Well, you don't buy brand new cars.
Brand new cars are silly.
It's, they take such a hit when you buy them anymore, you know, that's the problem.
And then you, you know, maybe one day they'll be worth more money.
I don't know.
It could be, could not be.
Also in was a 69 Camaro Yenco tribute, hugger orange over black, well done tribute.
However, it's got a ZZ502 crate motor in it.
So it's more than a tribute.
It's more like a tribute and a Resto mod that looks like a Yenco.
Which is cool.
Hey, listen, whatever trips your trigger, you know, turbo hydropower.
Yenco still a name.
Still a name.
Don Yenco who had the Chevrolet dealership here in Pennsylvania, right?
It never goes away.
It never goes away.
It's like Shelby.
Yeah.
Smaller scale, but Yenco is recognized as the top performance dog.
Pretty much anybody in the car business that you know of will talk about Yenco and still
remember it fondly from the days when they had the highest horsepower of cars.
And, and, you know, they're, they're, they were known as the, they could get around the
policy of General Motors saying we're not going to sell you a Camaro with anything bigger
than the 396 in it.
And Yenco figured out a way to get them to let him put 427s in them.
And so they were the top dog of the drag strip.
Obviously that's where it first started.
But then, you know, and it evolved into the street and everything else.
And you know, we were, I was at dinner last night with a bunch of car guys, which was
a lot of fun, by the way.
Nothing better than 10 or 12 guys sitting around a table in a private room, just like
Corky said, car people are the best.
They're the best.
And we had so much fun and we were talking and we were laughing and telling stories.
And, but, you know, and, and variably, you just Shelby came up, of course, Yenco came
up.
We talked about Baldwin motion.
And they did some Corvettes and Camaros back in the day as well too.
So anyway, the Yenco clone that we got in here, the right color, hugger orange.
We got a 61 Corvette Roadster, ermine white and silver over red.
It's a really pretty car.
That's a great color combination that's that white with the silver coves and the red interior.
Remember the trivia contest?
We used to have ermine.
What is a ermine was one of the was one of the questions.
Was it? Yeah.
Do you know what it is?
It seems like so long ago.
No, I don't.
Do you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you want to meet her.
I remember.
Yeah, I know what it is because I, well, it's a nature thing, but it's a, it's a type of weasel
that lives in the, in the Arctic.
You mean the car business has something that weasels are a part of?
I can't imagine that.
What are we going to name this Corvette?
That's white.
Yeah.
Let's try ermine.
That's ermine.
Great obscure.
It's got a three speed manual as we were just talking about one of the first versions of
a manual transmission, 283 numbers matching 234, 230 horse V8, beautifully restored, all
correct stuff, correct axle, both tops.
A lot of people don't know that the Corvettes back in the day came with a soft top and a
hard top and the hard tops usually got put up in the attic and then they got forgotten
about and there's probably a gazillion houses with hard tops in their, in their attic that
will just be there forever, I guess.
So also in 1936 Nash Lafayette business coupe, Burgundy black over black, built by the six
deuces speed shop, 327 cubic inch V8, it's an all steel car, turbo hydromatic 350, roomy
interior.
Yeah, it is.
It's a wild car.
So that's crazy.
I, you know, that's an oddball car that you wouldn't normally see street ride.
Normally you see the 32 shared fords or, you know, the typical ones.
And it's always interesting to see one that is a little outside the box or a lot outside
the box, like this Nash Lafayette business coupe.
But I just love cool names like that.
I think that's what I gravitate when I pick these for my list that they have an interesting
or extra long name.
I think that, I think that is your criteria.
I think it is.
I have some criteria and that's what it is.
So are we close to a break, Steve?
We got a minute and a half.
My goodness.
I'm watching Adam peel around in the parking lot in a red Corvette.
So I hope he's got it sold and he's not just out.
Well, there's another red Corvette that did.
Did I see that there might be a D?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
It could be.
Our buddy, Harry Denwood, he sent up his 73 Corvette from East Tennessee.
Is it a race car?
No, no, no.
He, he, he wouldn't sell those.
He's going to, you have to pry him out of those when his, you know, the sixers are
playing the Brooklyn Nats, I guess, is in the playoffs and there's a Din Whitty.
Really?
On the, not a relative on the other team.
Is there a reason that you know he's not a, not going to go there.
I just, I just hear that name every two seconds.
I'm like, no, I wouldn't worry.
And you never hear, and if you ever heard that name before.
No, I didn't, I have not.
And of course I spelled it wrong.
There's a great guy.
You got grew up in here and my mom was in his mom's wedding, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
So he's an old friend from East Tennessee.
So he's got his Corvette up here and we're going to try to sell it for him.
And nice.
It's got that racing heritage.
And the guy who raced at Talladega for like 12 laps and crashed out or whatever
he did.
I can't remember the whole story, but I'm sure he'll remind me after he listens
to this and tells me, thanks a lot for diminishing my NASCAR career.
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It's all, we'll fix it in the mix.
So sometimes S hits the fan.
Yes, it does.
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If it was easy, you know, it wouldn't be so much fun, you know, if it was easy,
everybody'd be doing that.
Right.
So we know it's hard and it's hard for a reason because to put out quality
products like we do is not an easy task.
So just remember that.
We have the voice, we have the content, it's all the other aspects.
We've got to figure out the rest of it.
And the rest of it, we're kind of figuring it out as we go.
So anyway, back talking about new inventory, we got in, I don't remember
last week if I told you about my new toy.
Wait a minute, not the new new toy.
No, the play seat, F1.
Oh yeah, we talked about it.
Yeah, we did talk about it.
It came in two big boxes.
Yeah, two big boxes.
Did you put it together?
Yeah, it's together.
We're running it.
We're racing.
Oh, you're racing?
Race Monaco.
Monaco is hard.
Wait, do you go online with other people and play?
No, we don't yet.
Buy ourselves for now.
And only five laps because you're literally worn out after five laps.
Is that right?
Oh yeah.
It's like, you're pressing so hard on the accelerator and you break at the last
minute.
So you just got us, I mean, that brake pedal is just like, it's got the feel of a
reel.
You're telling me you're worn out after?
Yeah, five laps.
Really?
Yeah, I am tired.
It's like, my arms are tired.
And it's not the shaking.
You're not getting the vibration.
Well, you have that, but it's not what makes you tired.
What makes you tired is that intense concentration.
But when you're hitting that pedal, you know, have you ever been on a U-Haul that had a
limiter on it?
It would only go like 62 miles an hour and the speed limit was 65.
Real hard.
And you find your foot is just buried into the gas pedal to extract every ounce of power
out of it.
That's what this is like, except it's even, you know, you're doing 190 down the back
straight.
And you're shifting.
No, it's paddle shifting.
Oh, okay.
And then the brake has the same feel as a brake pedal.
So if you wait to the last hundred feet to go from 190 to 30, it requires some effort
to brake.
And so you're literally stomping on that brake pedal.
And you're sitting almost on the ground and your feet are level almost with your eyes.
That's the way the Formula One guys sits.
Sounds like a lot of fun.
Yeah.
And it's hard to get in and out of.
On top of it all.
Yeah.
On top of it all.
Does it have a cup holder?
No, it doesn't have a cup holder.
And you can't grab anything to lift yourself up.
So you're lean back like this and your feet are up in the air and now you got to get your
feet back and push yourself up and that's in there.
If you grab onto the steering wheel, you'll tear it off the mount.
Oh, that's funny.
That's funny.
Why don't you try to get out of the Z4?
Yeah.
You think that's fun.
Well, and here's the thing, you know, if we start doing real laps.
But, you know, some of the tracks are pretty easy, like Australia is kind of easy and Canada
is kind of easy.
It's kind of wide open and bigger.
But Monaco, you hit the wall like 30 times a lap.
I mean, to watch those guys at Monaco going around those corners so close, every, you
know, it's amazing.
And they do 60 or 70 laps and to not lose concentration is amazing.
I mean, I don't know how you see the guys who lose their concentration because they're
the ones who hit the wall or hit something else or hit somebody else.
It really is.
It's the concentration that is especially exhausting.
Well, I mean, that's, you know, that's what, listen, there's a lot of good golfers out
there.
But if you've got the tenacity to stick with it and, you know, focus and focus and focus,
then you can win.
But it doesn't take much for you to get off your game a little bit.
Right.
And same with F1.
I mean, it's micro, you know, inches, it's not feet or hundreds of feet or anything like
that.
I was dodging 18 wheelers on the way out here.
I'm exhausted.
I am.
Excellent.
What were you in?
What were you driving?
I just have the Mini Cooper today.
Oh, the Cooper.
Oh, just the old, lowly old Mini Cooper.
I drove the new beast down to Carlisle yesterday and all my buddies were fawning all over it.
Which beast?
That's the S65.
Oh, okay.
621 horsepower, 738 foot pounds of torque.
The thing that's even more amazing than that, which is amazing is the Burmester audio system.
3D sound.
And now the new one has 4D, so whatever that means, but it's really an amazing car.
It really is fun to drive, but it's not very practical.
It's one of those cars that it requires a little effort to drive and you have to really
give it its due and you have to pay attention.
I mean, we were talking about the videos that you see with guys going roundabout and sideways
in 180s and it doesn't even look like you're going that fast.
I'm sure that can happen.
And of course it does have traction control and anti-lock brakes and all that, but you
can disable the traction control if you want to do a smoky burnout.
If you want to do a smoky burnout in an S65 Mercedes, but man, it is something else.
And it is, I tell you what, it's surprising.
You think when you want a particular car, most often times when you want the car, you've
never driven one before, it's just one you've always wanted, like the Z8 BMW.
So that's one that is on my list.
What if I get it and it drives like crap?
Yeah, exactly.
There's one that I just showed a friend that just sold on Bring a Trailer for $250,000
in Topaz Blue, which is my car.
I know, that's the best car.
You see that one?
Yeah.
And yeah, what if it's crappy to drive?
Yeah.
I mean, I think that, you know, I think we all have experienced that in certain instances
on things that you think that you want something and then you get it and you really don't like
it or you don't want it.
Ethan wants an XJS, I'm like, okay, better drive one first.
Yeah, well, not only you better drive one, but you better realize that they're expensive
to maintain.
You know, we've been through this many, many times about late model or older late model
Jaguars and BMWs and Porsches and all that.
That once they get up in the 60, 70, 80, 100,000 mile range, then there's some maintenance
that has to be done and there's expenses that have to be absorbed when you own this thing.
And that's okay because listen, you're buying it for pennies on the dollar of what it sold
for originally.
Sure.
But make sure that you got a little extra in the kitty, in the bank, in the whatever
in your little pocket thing, wherever you carry extra money, those little rubber pocket
things that you squeeze.
Yeah.
That's the center thing that, that little 70s.
I don't even carry change.
Do you carry change?
No.
I usually dump it.
Yeah.
How long has it been since you've carried change in your pocket?
I actually have some.
No, I don't actually.
I can't, I like it.
I hate getting change.
The, is it the BMW or the Lightning?
Oh, the Lightning has one of those little, put the change in there for the toll.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I hate change and I hate when something costs like, I only have $2 and I don't want to put
it on a credit card and the item is $1.9.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got to get 91 cents back.
I don't want it.
I don't like change.
Well, now you have to round up your credit card too.
Now they're like, do you want to give the charity, you want to give that extra 60 cents
to me?
I do that.
Do you do that?
If I know what the charity is.
Well, yeah.
I don't just, the charity is the guy behind the counter there.
No.
Of course I don't do that.
But if it's something, you know, something.
They're pretty vague about it, like the supermarkets.
I'm not really sure.
So, we're round up for charity.
What's it go to?
Well, it goes to the group, you know, the people that need some help and they're, you
know, probably going to have to, you know, whatever.
It's like somebody told me that, this may not be true, but that.
Well, then don't say it.
No, I know.
That the supermarkets make a donation each year anyway, and this is just reimburses
their, their sort of foundation or whatever.
Who knows?
But I'm a little skeptical, but if it's less than 10 cents or something, I'll do it.
Well, what a giver you are.
I give outside of the supermarket.
Okay.
All right.
I wasn't like Elvis.
I do it.
I do it anonymously.
I do it privately.
I'll just give you a Cadillac.
That's right.
Well, you know, listen.
Yeah.
Don't tell anybody that I bought you a Cadillac.
And of course the car salesman couldn't wait to go tell all his buddies that he sold
a Cadillac to Elvis for somebody that may or may not have been his significant other
or whatever it was.
Right.
Hush money.
Yeah.
Don't say another word.
Anyway, funny different times back then.
But you know, Elvis bought a few Cadillacs, I believe.
Yes, he did.
That was his favorite car, right?
Yep.
But he also had some interesting other car.
He had a BMW 507.
He did have a 507 in Germany, which he had a Messerschmitt, which the whereabouts are
unknown, a bunch of Lincoln's, that Mercedes 600 Coleman, which are really cool.
So yeah.
Yeah.
What else did he have?
Oh, he had, I'm sure he had some Excalibur Zimmer-esque type thing.
I don't know.
He had Pantara.
Stutz Bearcat.
The Stutz Bearcat.
Yeah, Stutz, the new Blackhawks, excuse me, not the Bearcat.
Four Blackhawks, including the, and my Elvis Frank can tell you the whole story, by the
way.
You're doing a pretty good job, by the way.
Well, they had a prototype, they shopped around, and Frank Sinatra said, I want that
one.
And when they showed it to Elvis, Elvis said, no, I want that one.
And anyway, long story short, Elvis ended up with it.
Really?
And they sold a lot of, you know, Blackhawks as a result of Elvis being an owner of one.
Yeah.
And maybe not, maybe not to Frank, but to everybody.
No, I think Frank probably had one, too.
They also had, a lot of those guys had dual gears, too, the Chrysler.
But anyway, yeah, Elvis had some cool cars.
And that Elvis movie that was just recently out, the scenes I loved where it showed the
front of his house with all the different cars just stacked around there and different
things.
Yeah, they were really authentic about it.
You know, but it was, it was cheaper to be rich back then, too, you know, if you think
about it.
Cheaper to be rich.
Cheaper to be rich.
Yeah.
Think about middle-class people had it made back in the 50s and the 60s and 70s.
I mean, I don't say they had it made, but, but life, you know, the husband was the only
one who worked.
The wife didn't work.
They had two kids.
They put them through college.
They took two vacations a year.
They retired at 65 and lived a comfortable life the rest of their life.
And that's hard to do these days.
That's not the same world.
And it's interesting because Cadillac and Lincoln were the top of the food chain, which
is why Elvis kind of was attracted to them because they grew up poor, a lot of them.
But that was like the luxury car of luxury cars back then and now it's whatever it is.
Well, I mean, I remember that, you know, if you had a cobalt boat back in the day, it
was the Cadillac of boats, they called it, you know, so, and of course, or John Travolta
in Get Shorty, he had the Oldsmobile Silhouette was the Cadillac of minivans, right?
Which you had.
Which I had.
And my kid, I got passed down to every kid, I think ended up having a blown head gasket
that if you had to keep one foot on the brake and one foot on the exhaust and white smoke
would be coming out of it.
Sometimes it would die on the bridge, which is never a good place for a vehicle to die.
And yeah, they hated that car.
Carry antifreeze.
At least they had room for bottles of antifreeze.
Plenty of antifreeze bottles.
And then we passed on the 420 SEL Mercedes to them that didn't have a, the right rear
shock was rusted out.
And to fix that was going to be like, we'll put a new frame under the car.
I'm like, don't think so.
Just drive it until it's undriveable, which we did.
Our scathe was driving the new car all the time back then and I was getting all the
hand me down.
So she had a Dodge Durango RT in red.
Is that right?
Yeah.
That thing got about nine miles to the gallon, but it was.
You can't, you can't give them away right now.
And it was a beast though.
It was pretty fast.
It was red.
It was 5.9.
Yeah.
5.9.
At 360 cubic inch.
And it was red with black interior.
And she loved that car.
And I don't like it.
It was a little darty for me the way it drove.
It was the, remember how the 70s Corvettes were real darty to barely touch the steering
when you're going the wrong direction.
They were like that, which is never comfortable to me.
Some people like that.
I don't like that.
I never liked that.
But I tell you that formula one game is darty.
That's the new F1 Xbox game or whatever that we have now.
So and a 55 inch TV that's literally within like two feet of your head.
You start getting this weird sensation after you've played that for a while, that game
that it's like your eyes start kind of playing tricks on you.
It's really.
Man, you are not a good salesman for this product because it sounds like an absolute
nightmare.
Not only.
But yeah, I love it.
Once you're sitting there, that's why they spend, people spend hours there because why
get up?
Why get up?
Because I can't get up.
It's going to be hard to get up.
My eyes are going to be messed up.
So I'm already messed up.
So why don't I just stay for, no, but I can't wait to play it when I get home.
So I mean, there's something for that.
It's kind of like beer when you first drink it, you know, you hated it, but by God you
learn to like it.
Can't wait for your next one.
Can't wait for the next one.
And you learn to like it if you had, you know, whatever.
So did I tell you about the bring a trail, the no sale, the Cyclone 61,000, 3K original
miles?
No.
No sale at 61,000.
On bring a trailer.
GMC Cyclone in 1991, which, you know, used to be 61 was the top of the food chain for
the Cyclones, right?
I mean, a year ago, that would have been fine, but the prices have come down on them and
they're starting to soften a little bit on them because people are realizing that they're
special, but they're not that spec, they're not $60,000 special.
Well, and sellers are trying to get the most out of it and for now because they know that
maybe around the corner is not going to be as good, right?
Right.
So I was beginning to talk about the, there was an article in Rodentrags in the power of
music and driving.
Hmm.
Do you have a favorite driving song, my favorite driving band or song or band Van Halen virtually
or or Sam and mine is Joe Satriani, Surfin' with the Alien.
Okay.
That's an instrumental, but it's really good and it really, your right foot just gets
deeper and deeper and deeper with that song.
But that Van Halen, just about any Van Halen is a great band to listen to on the lake.
If you've got a ski boat and you're out there hanging out and speakers blast, well, work
with me.
Close your eyes.
Yeah, let me imagine having a boat on a lake house.
Down by the river.
Down by the river.
In a van down by the river.
Chris Farley.
Yeah.
That was funny.
Great scene.
That was so good.
But the power of music and driving is really amazing.
You know, for a lot of years, my best music experience was always in a car because I had
the best sound system in the car because it was cheaper to have a good car sound system
than it was to have a good home sound system and I had a pretty good home sound system.
I had one back in the day.
I had a Nakamichi cassette deck and a Bang and Olufsen turntable and some clips, heresy
speakers and you know, the whole, check all the boxes of the cool stuff.
But still, music and car really always kind of was the thing.
As a matter of fact, I remember going on dates back in high school and it wasn't a very good
date when we were in the car because I really wanted to just listen to the music and the
girl was wanting to talk and you know, silence and it's like, well, this is our first date.
So really, you're not giving me a good vibe here and I'm saying, but we're listening
to vibes and so if the girl was into the music, that was like a winner.
That's a winner.
But they were never into Rush.
Oh, the girls never liked Rush.
They say, sounds so squeaky sounding.
And of course, all the guys are really into Rush.
They want a journey probably.
Yeah.
And we were, the guys were into Rush because Rush was different and cool and it was kind
of our generation's yes and our generation's, you know, Rick Wakeman and those guys who
by the way was here.
Was he?
Did we talk about this?
No.
Thank God.
You know, we need to keep a chart of everything we've talked about.
I do.
I mean, when I edit, I write down every subject matter to see what might be interesting to
the audience.
Rick Wakeman, I don't know where he qualifies.
Where he qualifies into the category of people of interest, but no, he was here at Classic
Autumn Home.
And the reason we know that is because some guy signed in and we were looking at the sign-in
sheet and it was like Rick Wakeman or R. Wakeman at Wakeman Music.
I mean, it was like, it was, it was him.
Wow.
He was here.
And of course, I was not informed of this and I was back in my cubby hole back there with
no windows, by the way, if I can complain anymore about that.
You're moving.
You're moving though, right?
Well, it could be.
We're looking about adding onto this room and moving up closer to the front because it's
a long walk back there and my guys are getting old, so they're getting really tired of walking
all the way back to the office when, you know, if we had the office right here, then it wouldn't
be such a walk.
So, but anyway, power music and driving has always been a big thing in my life and it
was always important, and especially on our road trip.
You know, I think about all, you know, a lot of people listen to books on tape back in
the day and a lot of people just, I don't know, listen to nothing weirdos and that was
our music time.
It was like our concert that we had.
What?
Am I going to get letters?
Well, I was going to say something that I think of some car guys might relate with.
Hear the engine?
Yeah.
When I took trips from LA to Vegas constantly, because that's where my family lived, I radio
off engine sound the whole time, just kind of way to monitor.
Maybe I was, you know, being anal about it.
Sure.
Well, and here's the thing.
If you're driving on the interstate or the turnpike and you're doing the same miles per
hour, it does become a little dronish, right?
I mean.
The engine?
Yeah.
I mean, it's one thing when you're, oh, when you're going, but then there's.
It all depends on the car, I guess.
We were talking about it dinner last night also about flipping the air cleaner on a 455.
My mother's Buick Le Sabre, we flip over and then that was, that was the sound.
That was the guys were like, man, that thing is a cool, what's, what's that thing got in
it?
Right.
That 455 in it.
So it wasn't nothing.
Nothing.
You could get actually a Le Sabre with a stage one 455.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Which is odd.
And my mother got the four door hardtop.
So no center pillar.
Those of you in our listening world who don't know what a hardtop versus a, there can be
a two door sedan and a four door sedan.
And the designation of sedan is, is that there's a pillar between the front and the rear window.
A two door hardtop has no pillar or a four door hardtop has no pillar between the front
glass and the rear glass.
It's really important for tri-fives.
Yeah.
And, and also, but, but important in the fact that they were probably not easy to build
properly.
They required very narrow tolerances, which, you know, Chevrolet and General Motors and
Chrysler and Ford probably weren't, you know, as known for back then.
So to have a car that didn't have that pillar, that was like a, a cheater bar, you know,
that the window could go into.
Now you got to put two windows together and somehow make it sealed, which it really sort
of was, but, you know, wasn't perfect, wasn't hermetically sealed.
That's my big word for the day.
But that's the definition of, of that.
So anyway, we digressed all the way from the power of music and driving from road and track
to that.
So, and we talked about earlier about moving some of these barn finds out.
We're really trying to, to, to make some room here.
We've, we've taken in so many cars lately and we're at, you know, like I said, 930
something cars and, and more come at 13 yesterday.
I don't know how many have come in today.
I keep seeing cars pulling in on trailers.
Got two coming next week.
You do.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
Good to see you're earning your keys.
Slowly, but surely.
It's not an easy process because, you know, you have to, you have to learn our system
and figure it out and figure out a way to get cars here and get people to, you know,
believe in you.
True.
True.
Because, but ultimately that's what people are doing.
I mean, any of my car specialists, I tell them, look, you know, it's great that we have
this wonderful building and that's a huge sales tool, but they got to believe in what
you're saying that you're telling them that, you know, you think you can help them and
also be an honest with them.
And it's hard to be honest with somebody who paid too much for a car.
You know, if a guy went and paid 50 grand two weeks ago and the car is really only
worth 35 grand, it's hard to be the grim reaper and say, hey, cars only worth 35.
Look, we'll try it at 50.
We don't think we're going to get there, but let's try it and see what happens.
And we can always go down in price, but you can very rarely go up with somebody.
Right.
And you can't say, I'll say this car for 50 grand, well, but would you, would you take,
would you pay 51?
No.
Didn't you just offer to me for 50?
That's what's great about the three month, you know, contract.
Sure.
Like at the end of that, then you reevaluate and you, like you said, what is it nine out
of 10 times?
It's a question of price that if it hadn't sold, hasn't sold or you got any hits on
it at all.
Unless it's something unusual, like the Franklin that we got in her in the Nash Lafayette,
they meant those sometimes take a little longer to find the right guy.
And that's just part of it.
And we can't predict that.
We can tell you what we think it'll be.
But the reality of it is, is that the car that comes in next that I'm going to see that
I think is going to sell in a day, it'll be here three months from now.
And the car that comes in that I think is never going to sell.
I'm getting a phone call before it's offloaded on the trailer that they've got an offer on
it or that there's somebody's going to buy it.
Right, which is why you can't really make any promises to consignors saying, oh, that's
a great car.
We sold six of them and that'll sell in a day.
It just doesn't happen like that.
It's all timing.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing.
And I think that, and people, I think pretty much realize that, you know, we see people
who will consistently speak to us and call us and talk to us about pricing and where we
think it is.
And if the market's going up or down or whatever.
And sometimes the market is appreciating.
Sometimes it's depreciating and we just don't always know that where that'll be.
And we try to keep our finger on the pulse.
A lot of our finger on the pulse is just the inventory that we've sold over the past five
years.
It's a good barometer of what the market will or won't do.
But sometimes there's the anomaly.
I mean, a guy walks in here and sees a car and had no intention of buying a car or any
particular car and just says, oh my God, there's the car I've always wanted.
And it could be the most obscure oddball thing you've ever seen.
And if he hadn't walked in here, he may have never seen it.
It's true.
He's not a guy who's searching for it online.
Please don't get an Atlantis blue 79 Trans Am.
At least for another year.
With the, what's that camel interior that they know is blue.
Oh, blue.
Yeah.
You could get it with the camel, but the blue interior, blue on blue and solid hard top.
If I ever see one of those that I, you know, I'll tell you a good look at 79 Trans Am.
George Steinbrenner had a anniversary Trans Am with the silver interior, but he painted
next year that dark Neptune blue.
And with that silver interior, oh man.
Cowboys.
Yeah.
That thing was a good looking car.
And that was George Steinbrenner's car that we had.
We owned at one time.
Oh, did you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
For a short period of time.
It didn't last very long because it was popular.
So, so we were, we were talking to my buddy the other day from, did you have reference
points when you were taking road trips or drives or a particular drive that you did
on often point, there was always a reference point to know how much further you had to
go.
Barstow is like halfway to Vegas.
Right.
Right.
So, you knew you got there is like, all right on.
All right.
We had Oceola cheese.
What?
Oceola cheese.
When we were driving from Branson Oceola, O-S-C-E-O-L-L-A.
Okay.
Oceola cheese shop.
And it was between Branson and Kansas City and we lived in Branson and Kathy's parents,
my wife lived in Kansas City.
And Oceola cheese was where, yeah, over five minutes from Oceola cheese or we just left
Oceola cheese or we're 20 minutes past Oceola cheese.
That was always our reference point.
Oceola cheese was a place you would stop and they had lots of free, every kind of cheese
you could imagine and free samples.
And it was not very good cheese.
It was really not that good, but the fact that they had the free samples and the sausage
and crackers and whatever, and it was just a different place to stop, but it was always
a reference point.
Unlike Texas reference point when they're driving is, is how far is it from here to
Dallas?
So it's about a six pack.
And I don't mean that with a driver.
I mean that with the pass.
Right.
Of course.
Yeah.
Never the driver.
Never, never.
You know, how far is it from here to Austin?
Oh, that's two cold ones.
Two tall boys.
Unless you're George Strait.
You're George Strait, right?
But that was funny that, that you always had those reference points when you went.
We used to, my dad used to take us up to Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, which is a tourist
area in East Tennessee.
If you're not familiar, I grew up in Knoxville and there was a Honda motorcycle dealership
on Chapman Highway, the road we went up and it was on the right hand side and it was about
halfway from Knoxville to Gatlinburg, maybe not quite halfway, but anyway, and there was
an old abandoned hotel across the street or Motel, I better get this correct, Hotel would
have multiple stories.
This is all one level where you drove right up to and just parked in front.
So we get up to about halfway there and dad starts telling me this story about this hotel,
this Motel that got shot up with this, this bank robber was locked in there and he was,
he was fighting with the police and they, you know, can you see the bullet holes and
we're driving by and we're like, you know, I was like, well, I don't see the bullet
holes dad.
Where, you know, and this went on every time we drove by here and he'd always make a big
story about it.
And one time something happened and I happened to just look over to the right and there was
the Honda motorcycle dealership because every time we drove up there, dad would say, somehow
we keep missing that Honda place and I know you want to stop there, but somehow we keep
missing it.
Oh, and the reason we were missing it is because dad was telling me that the other way, because
that's where you're going to see the bullet holes in this Motel.
And you got to say Motel, like you're saying, Hotel, like cold beer.
And anyway, so that was thanks a lot, dad.
I really appreciate it.
You know, I was just reading a couple of weeks ago, I think I meant to talk about this.
There's a new Ducati motorcycle, the new VR4.
Do you pay attention to motorcycles at all?
Absolutely not.
I knew you were going to say not a motorcycle guide.
Appreciate them.
Don't follow.
Yeah.
I, you know, I love, I love riding them in the parking lot because that's all I've ever
done with my Harley in Morgantown in the parking lot.
So that I think I put nine miles on it right here.
So good thing I've got it.
You know, and a flat spot on the tires.
That's always good on a motorcycle, right?
But the new 2023 Ducati Pagnale 240 horsepower.
What?
On a motorcycle.
No thank you.
That's more than mine and your Trans Am also almost combined back in the day.
Hard pass on the retail price, $44,995.
What's in a name?
Yeah, for a Ducati motorcycle.
I'm sure it's a great motorcycle, right?
It better be.
And if you were, you know, if you're measuring distance and it probably with 240 horsepower
goes pretty fast, you wouldn't be talking about the Ocila cheese place like we are.
So Kathy's smiling.
She remembers the Ocila cheese place.
We're already done.
But I have so much more to talk about.
Squeeze it in 30 seconds.
You can do it.
I can't.
I can't do that.
But at least I got a few things off my list that have been on the list since good for
months.
I have like 370 emails of interesting things to talk about on the radio show that I've
found and stuff I found emailed myself.
So I'm probably never going to get to all of it.
We should just do, you know, cleanup shows every couple of every couple of weeks.
All right.
Come in here on Friday afternoon and just shoot those do a couple of stuff.
All right.
I like it.
We can just shoot the bull and have all kinds of fun.
And until then, we'll see you next time and we'll catch you at the Classic Automall
Podcast and don't forget to go to classicautomall.com and check out our website.
See you next time.
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About this episode
Stewart Howden and Steve Saffier dive into the bustling world of classic car consignments at Classic Auto Mall, discussing recent record-breaking days with 13 new cars arriving unexpectedly. They explore the nuances of selling classic cars through auctions versus consignment, emphasizing the importance of pricing and market trends. The episode also touches on unique inventory highlights, including a rare 1930 Franklin and a 1956 Austin Healey, while sharing anecdotes about car culture and personal experiences. Listeners will appreciate the blend of humor and insight into the classic car market.
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Archive Show #085 airdate 04-21-23 Stewart and Steve talk all things automotive including higher mileage classic maintenance, business check fraud plus how people in the 1950's "had it made" and the battle over a car by Sinatra and Elvis.
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