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This is the Classic Automall Show.
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Broadcast from the studios inside the Classic Automall in Morgantown, Pennsylvania, just one
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hour west of Philadelphia at Pennsylvania Turnpike Exit 298, featuring nearly 1,000 classic
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vintage and barred-fine vehicles for sale under one climate-controlled roof.
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Now, here's your host, Classic Automall president and the man with all the toys
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Welcome to show number 207, we're really rockin' now.
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We're gonna, you know, on our subscriber list, over 62,000 subscribers.
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We've jumped up 40,000 subscribers in the last 90 days.
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We're cookin' with fire, as they say.
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Okay, real quickly, how many cars in inventory, JR?
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They're in and out.
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I'm gonna say 9, and even 950.
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Oh, no, not really.
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So, let's get to our guest today.
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We're inviting patiently.
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Joining us via Zoom, Mr. Mike Joy, good morning, Mike.
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Mike Joy, broadcaster, play-by-play commentator, Barrett Jackson, analyst, actor, a little
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acting then there from a couple of things you've done over the years.
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Anyway, 50 years of motorsports, wow.
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That's pretty crazy.
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Well, and that just, you know, and that doesn't count my misspent youth.
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I grew up in the pages of road and track car and driver and sports car graphic,
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and would sneak those magazines into study hall and high school, and just devoured all
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And, you know, dreams of Formula One and Indy, and I got there, but with a microphone instead
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of a helmet and a steering wheel.
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And you're doing a little of that as a hobby now, so that kind of makes up for the
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years of, you know, wanting to do it, but not really figuring out a way to do
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Well, you know, I raced for a while.
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In fact, we formed an IMSA team three years out of college.
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We didn't know how broke we were, and we didn't know how short-lived that would be, but I raced
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an IMSA just out of college, and then put it all away for about 15 years.
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Went back, raced SCCA, raced IMSA, raced in the 24 hours of Daytona, but, you know, always
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as a hobby, never with the idea that it was ever going to produce any cash flow.
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And now with vintage racing, it's a great place for those of us who think we used
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to be fast, can go out there and be half-assed and have a good time.
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What surprised me is how competitive vintage racing is, even with the high-dollar cars.
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I mean, even more so with those Formula One cars at Monterey last weekend, or it was at
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Laguna Seca, was unbelievable how they were, I mean, they weren't 10-tents, but they
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were certainly 7-tents.
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I mean, there's two things that happen when you hop in one of those cars and
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pull the belts down tight.
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One is, I can go faster than the guy starting in front of me.
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And the other is, with these older race cars, the years melt away.
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You know, I climbed in an Iraq Firebird at Laguna Seca, and suddenly I was 25 again.
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And then trying to climb out of it, I realized, oh, my God, no, I'm not.
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Trying to climb out through that narrow window, all in good fun.
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Iraq display and also races seem to be as popular as anything out there.
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I mean, obviously, the given was that Jeff Gordon was there and Danny Sullivan was there.
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And, you know, just keep naming off names, Scott Pruitt, our buddy, and was all there.
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But it seemed to be a very popular aspect of that event.
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Well, you know, vintage racing runs the gamut from about, I think the oldest car
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there was 1911, a car that participated in the first Indy 500.
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And the newest cars there were in the 25 to 2010 range.
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So, Iraq, which began in 1973 with Porsches, two of which were there, and continued all
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the way through 2006, Camaros, then Dodge Avengers, and Dodge Daytonas, then Firebirds.
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So everybody who came to Monterey remembered Iraq.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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And the big attraction was not only that and not only that it was the first time
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that all seven generations of Iraq cars had been on track together at one time,
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thanks to Ray Ebernhem and Rob Kaufman, who were resurrecting the Iraq brand and
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trademarks and maybe even the events.
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But the original drivers were there to drive them.
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That was really the coolest part.
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And the fact that they drove to the quail on city streets with a police
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escort, I wish I could have seen that.
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That would have been fun in its own right to experience.
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Well, we did see it.
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My son and I were driving back from the quail.
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We kind of timed that so that we would cross the cars going.
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And as Bobby Levante told me, we didn't have spinometers in those race cars.
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He says, we were going at a pretty good click thanks to the California
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Highway Patrol, leading them over and back.
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That's an annual feature of Laguna Seca car week.
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Is that Friday at noon, one select group of race cars gets
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invited to go up and over the Laurelis grade, which is five and a half
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miles with 30 turns.
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And then come down Carmel Valley and into the quail, the $1,500
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ticket display of everything that is new at automobiles and a lot that's
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Gordon McCall puts on a wonderful event.
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The quail is a don't miss.
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If you can get a ticket, you got to go.
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The Iraq cars are displayed there for an hour or so.
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The drivers get to wander around and mingle with everybody and everybody has
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We did it one year with the historic Trans Am cars.
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And now that feature is also a part of Watkins Glen vintage car week.
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They recreate an event where the race cars come down from the track down
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to the town park for an hour or two.
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Everybody talks with the fans there and then recreate a three laps
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of the original Watkins Glen road course.
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In two weeks Labor Day weekend, there is a Thursday afternoon tour of
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Lime Rock, Salisbury Falls Village with race cars and significant
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All part of, you know, take these race cars out of the track and get them
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Well, Watkins Glen started on the streets of Watkins Glen.
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And I think that, you know, it's interesting to see we worry about
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the death of the hobby, whether it be the racing side or the show
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It's we're stronger than ever.
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And people are saying that at Laguna Sega, they go, oh, the
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There's 400 race cars there.
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I mean, yeah, vintage racing is not an Indy car or NASCAR event,
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but it's certainly, I thought, was pretty well attended.
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I think the crowd was off from last year, but I think part of
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that is there are so many car events in greater Monterey and
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Carmel during that week.
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You know, there's, you know, Pebble Beach, the racing at Laguna
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There's the Festorix for BMW.
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There's an event for Porsche only.
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There's an event or there's a Wednesday night
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concourse for cars under 1500 cc's only.
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There's Grassroots Motorsports Welcome Party on
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Scott, my son and I judged that concourse dilemma in
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Goose Proof Park in Seaside on Saturday morning trying to find the
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best of the worst cars.
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I mean, there's something for everybody and a lot of the events
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are free to attend.
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We didn't do the lemons and we're going to.
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We went by Dodie's Lot, though, the guy who supplies a lot
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of the lemons cars.
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It's got the car lot down in Monterey and that was the
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craziest, freakiest thing you've ever seen in your life.
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And then, but like you said, there's always events going
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There's a few that will take off our list that we went to
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this year that we're going to add the quail because everybody
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says you got to do that.
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But just sitting on any street in Carmel by the sea and
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watching these Porsches and BMWs and Lamborghinis and
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Ferraris and I just want the spent fuel that was burning
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Pop, pop, pop, pop.
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We heard all night at 618 a gallon when we filled up at
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San Francisco Airport.
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We take all the fuel we can get.
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There was one exception.
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Now Highway 68 is the highway that runs from Salinas down
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to Seaside, and that's where the track's located.
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Some idiot got clocked at 144 miles an hour in the BMW on
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Highway 68 one morning.
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And that's the kind of guy that could ruin an end car
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Well, fortunately, he's I'm sure they have a nice place
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for him there in the Monterey, Monterey County,
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you know, Rollbar Motel, you know, that's, that's not
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Nobody's pretty well behaved.
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Nice to light it up and, and, and, you know, burn some of
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that high octane, but, you know, it's such a, it's such a
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Everybody needs to go to car week once.
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And this was our first time.
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So that was even more spectacular.
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And my wife and I just had an amazing time.
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And she said, you know, she said, I never thought a
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whole full event of car events would be fun.
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She said, but she had a great time too.
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And we met so many great people and, but, you
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know, you're right.
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It's always the bad seeds.
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We had these at cars and coffees all the time
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where the one guy wants to do a burnout, then
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all of a sudden the cars and coffee has to move from
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that location because they've, you know, it's just
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a shame that people are like that.
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That's why I love the advent of country club race tracks
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because now you can take your car out and do what
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it's supposed to do.
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And they're popping up everywhere.
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We'll open go this April in Charlotte.
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Rick Hendrick and Marcus Smith created just outside
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Charlotte Motor Speedway.
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And we've been fortunate my son won the first
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That's pretty cool.
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That's really cool.
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These things are really neat.
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And Flat Rock in between Knoxville and Nashville, Tennessee
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on I-40 is a 6.2 mile for the whole track built by
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the guy who builds the form of the one track.
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So I mean, yeah, there wasn't any lack of funds for
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that of that venture.
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I've got to get up there.
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They keep calling and gosh, the schedule's tight.
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It's a there's a lot to do.
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Like you said on the schedule, it's pretty
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And like the concourse to lemons, the lawn at
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Pebble on Sunday was amazing.
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I mean, to to watch all those cars of different
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eras being appreciated by all ages.
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That's what is heartwarming to me that, hey, this
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thing ain't going anywhere for a while.
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Well, that's great.
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And I like something that they did several years
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ago at Pebble to enhance the presentation because
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I spend most of my week at the track at Laguna
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Seca because I want to see these old cars out
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there racing in anger as as they once did.
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I don't want to see them being polished in a
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museum all the time.
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I want to get on track.
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So something they did at Pebble is they created
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the tour on Tuesday where car all the cars that
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are entered at Pebble Beach have a chance to run
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this tour around 17 mile drive and and and
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And the reason they do it is so that Pebble
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Beach is not just a display of what we call
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trailer queen and cars that never go anywhere.
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And the reason you want to do the tour
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is because if there is a tie in the judging at
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Pebble running in the tour and completing the
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tour is the tiebreaker.
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And the tour is free to spectate.
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You can set up anywhere along the tour route
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and see all those fabulous, wonderful cars go
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by without having to buy a ticket to the jet
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center or to the quail or the pebble.
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Yeah, I like that perspective of it.
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You know, we took the shuttle up to the corkscrew
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and watched the cars coming around at the corkscrew.
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And what was really fun was the ragtime racers.
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When they were coming around that corner,
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they were completely drift in the wrong way,
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trying to fight it to turn to the right.
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And I don't know how they did it.
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And it was sitting on buckets practically.
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And that ragtime racer group of cars
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from the 1920s and earlier, they've always
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come to Monterey, Laguna Seca.
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They're taking their act on the road.
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And Labor Day weekend this year,
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they're going to be at Lime Rock.
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A part of Vintage Festival 43.
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Brian Blaine and his whole group is coming east
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to be part of Lime Rock.
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So anybody who is watching this and is in the area Labor Day
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weekend, come on to Lime Rock.
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See another great vintage sports car racing event
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and see these ragtime racers.
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Yeah, it is certainly universally loved by everyone
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it seems to watch them.
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And I love you talk about your vintage racing
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and you all do, I guess you and your son
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do a bunch of different variations.
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But also you're part of the Trans Am series as well, too.
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And I loved there was a quote from you somewhere that said,
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how cool is it that I get to race
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against Mark Donahue, Sam Posey, Parnelli Jones?
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All these guys, even though it's not them,
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but it feels like it's them.
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And it feels like you're racing against them in that period.
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That's got to be such a gratifying experience.
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And let me see how this works.
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That was crossing the finish line at Laguna Seca last year.
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The number four car, the red and white one is mine.
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And the number 17 is my son, Scott's.
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And we came across two abreast.
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Usually he's half a lap in front of me
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and I can't even find him.
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But he drifted back to play and we just
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But the great thing about historic Trans Am
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and I can't tip the announcement,
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but there is a good chance historic Trans Am
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is coming back to Lime Rock next Labor Day
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and Watkins Glen the week after.
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A rare East Coast trip for those cars that
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are all based on the West Coast.
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And the great thing about those cars
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is they are all restored to the way they
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raced back in the day.
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They're all actual original race cars, no tributes,
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no clones, no rebuilds from Dustin Rust.
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They're the real car.
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You know, when that school bus yellow Mustang comes
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alongside me, that was Parnelli Jones car.
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So that blue number six Camaro was driven by Mark Donahue
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So for me, I mean, I sat up on the hillside
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and watched those races at Lime Rock in the late 60s
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and then covered them for radio in the 70s.
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So like I said, the years melt away and you're 21 again.
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So and you've not only done, I mean, you're, you know,
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obviously very well known doing NASCAR stuff,
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but you've also done Formula One races back a few years
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back and other some college football play by play
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And you know, but is NASCAR your passion
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when it comes to broadcasting?
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Is it a different kind of broadcasting
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than any other venue or series that you would cover?
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It is very different, especially with the changes
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that have been made with stage racing
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and the win and your in playoff format.
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The sport has really evolved in a direction
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that not every longtime fan really appreciates,
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but hoping to, hoping to build an audience of younger fans
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who let's say just don't want to watch cars
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going around in circles for four hours
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and trying to, trying to figure that out.
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Though the races are, are most all of them
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are a good bit shorter now.
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But NASCAR is the most popular series
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in the United States in terms of viewership.
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The Indy 500 and the Daytona 500 annually vie
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for the top rating.
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And now that Fox has Indy car,
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that's kind of changed the whole dynamic at our network
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where we have the first 12 NASCAR races each year,
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including the Daytona 500 and all of the Indy car series.
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It's a, I mean, it's big business, but it's also,
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you know, it's also still great racing
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just as it's always been.
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So, you know, yeah, that's my day job.
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And I love it, or I'd be long since retired.
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But it's a, it's a labor of love.
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I've got people that I work with
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that are fantastic.
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Kevin Harvick is developing into the best analyst
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I think, I think after two seasons, he's there.
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Clint Boyer adds just a whole different point of view
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from somebody who has been there and won that and done that.
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Larry McReynolds, our crew chief, you know,
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just great pit reporters.
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So it's a great team.
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And, you know, I'm just,
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I'm very fortunate to be a part of it.
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Well, we're all fortunate to be able to listen to you.
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And I'm not blowing smoke up your skirt
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because you and Bob Varsha and Dave Despain to me
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are the three broadcasters of our, of my era
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that are the trifecta of broadcasting.
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I mean, you guys just, it's amazing to listen to you guys.
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Of course, you had good teachers.
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Ken Squire comes to mind who just was,
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oh man, he gets chills when I talk about that.
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It's, his voice was so distinct and so,
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I don't know, you just felt comfortable
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when you were listening to him.
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Yeah, there are a few broadcasters.
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And then I learned a lot from Ken Squire,
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Barney Hall, Ned Jarrett,
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all of whom I worked with for many, many years
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and all of whom were good friends.
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We spent a lot of time together.
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And yeah, it's really special.
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Ken was a great wordsmith.
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Had a degree from Boston University
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and put it to good use.
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And he was one of those fellows that like Jim McKay at ABC,
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when you heard that voice,
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you knew you were watching a big event.
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And Ken had a way of elevating the drivers
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into Knights of the Road
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and almost mythical creatures
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that were just way above us mere mortals.
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And he was the best.
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Well, because Hall of Fame of NASCAR for that reason.
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And because most of the time,
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race car drivers, you don't see their faces.
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You can't see their emotions.
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You can't see what they're feeling
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if they're crying, if they're laughing,
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You don't know any of that.
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So they become just,
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you gotta have somebody explain to you
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who they are and what they are.
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And yeah, it's a labor of love.
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And of course, Barrett Jackson,
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we've enjoyed watching you for,
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how many years have you done Barrett Jackson?
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Is that, is that 20 plus?
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I was at Phoenix Raceway
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for Fox and Speed Channel,
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which was owned by Fox.
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And the exec producer, Rick Miner,
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this is I think 2002 or 2003.
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They had Barrett Jackson on speed
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and they're on the block commentator.
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Another good friend, Allen DeKadneke.
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But Allen did not have the depth of knowledge
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for the American muscle cars
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that were beginning to be a huge part of the auction scene.
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So they wanted somebody to balance Allen on the stage.
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They had Bob Barsha in the booth with Brock Yates,
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one of my heroes from Car Driver,
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and Keith Martin from Sports Car Market.
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But on the block, they had Allen.
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And Allen, you know,
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a big block Corvette would come up
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and Allen would talk about the lump under the hood, you know?
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And Craig Jackson wanted more.
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Rick Miner says, you know,
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what do you know about old cars besides race cars?
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And as I said, I grew up in those magazines.
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I said, so, well, try them.
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Well, let's go talk to Craig Jackson.
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So we go over to the Barrett Jackson booth
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and Craig has in his booth,
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a Gullwing Merced 300 SL Gullwing Mercedes coupe.
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So we talked to him and I mean,
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you know, here's what I do and here's so forth.
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what can you tell me about this car?
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And so I gave him chapter and verse on the history
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of the Gullwing, you know,
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right down to what many people don't know
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are the Rudge knockoff alloy wheels.
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He looks at Rick Miner and he goes, he'll do.
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And so then I go, okay, I guess I got a job.
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And yeah, that was over 20 years ago.
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And I went on the block at Barrett first
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with Allen Decadene for several years.
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And then with Steve Mignante,
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who's a great friend.
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And we call him Dr. Date Code
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because it was the date code and casting number
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of just about every part I ever called.
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That's amazing, absolutely amazing.
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Steve, we nearly lost Steve a couple of years ago
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He spent five months in the hospital,
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but he is now 97% recovered
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and he's gonna be back with us in Scottsdale in January.
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Really thrilled about that.
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And now, Tyler Hoover.
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Your voice from the YouTube generation,
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He and I do most of the block work now
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And yeah, again, we have a blast.
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If it's not fun, we're not doing it.
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Victor Broul now anchors those telecasts.
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Bob Varsha comes by to help occasionally.
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And yeah, we may have some additional ads going forward.
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But that's the key group for that.
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And we're all there to share.
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And share what we know and to learn.
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So much more we don't know than we do know.
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And the great thing about doing Barrett
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is everybody knows their car.
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You can tell me about every, you know,
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not in bulk on your car.
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But you don't find many people
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that have the kind of knowledge base
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that's a mile wide and two inches deep.
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And a little bit about every car
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that comes up on the block.
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And boy, they just keep coming.
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And you can't stand there and go,
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Yeah, here's the red one.
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Yeah, it's got a four speed.
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But it seems physically demanding that job.
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You got to be worn out at the end of a day.
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And some of those days are long.
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You know, we start out doing six hour days.
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When we're back on speed,
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we were doing for Friday and Saturday,
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And then the thing you dreaded most
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was in the last half hour,
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you know, again, Rick Miner would come in
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on the IFB over your headset and he'd go,
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all right, we're going to do another 45 minutes
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because they still have some good cars to run.
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That's when you have to take the headset
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I love Rick, but we don't do that anymore.
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And, you know, guides that ship now,
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he and Sully and, yeah, no more bonus coverage.
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Well, because to do it properly,
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you've got to have a definitive knowledge
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of how much longer you have going forward.
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And you can't, you know, kind of use all your energy
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and then run out at gas at, you know,
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10 minutes left, right?
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So there's a great line about that
22:42
from Mark Gellman, long time auction.
22:45
At Barrett Jackson, he's kind of from the area there.
22:49
And Mark says, yeah, he said the new auctioneers,
22:52
the new bidder assistants, they come in and all of the,
22:55
and everybody grabs the auction catalog.
22:58
they're looking for the list of everybody
23:01
They want to see if their picture's in the camera.
23:03
He said, the veterans want to know
23:05
the number of the last car.
23:07
All right, when are we done?
23:09
We're focusing on 212.
23:11
That's it, that's it.
23:13
Where's the end of the runway?
23:14
That reminded me for just for whatever reason
23:16
that you go into the nap apart store
23:18
and the young kids work in the computer
23:20
and you say, I need a distributor for XYZ
23:22
and oh, we don't have that.
23:23
And the old guy says, hold on a second.
23:27
We're gonna go, we'll show you where it is.
23:28
So, or you go, yeah, I need two feet
23:32
of a half inch fuel line.
23:34
If the guy at the counter goes,
23:36
what's the make and model?
23:37
Then I start looking for one of the older fellas.
23:39
So they know, no, no.
23:40
You know, you gotta have that guy.
23:43
And, you know, of course,
23:45
there's so many different variables
23:46
in selling and buying cars anymore.
23:49
You know, it used to be auctions in retail
23:51
and now you've got bring a trailer
23:52
and all these other venues to sell cars.
23:55
Yet the live auctions continue to grow
23:57
and get better and better, it seems.
23:59
Like Barrett Jackson seems to just
24:00
every year eclipse the year before.
24:02
Well, every morning I'm on,
24:05
bring a trailer, cars and bids,
24:07
Doug DeMiro's site in Pete's Bar Market.
24:09
Those are the three auction sites
24:11
that I'm going down and, you know,
24:12
looking at everything to see what's being sold.
24:14
What are the trends?
24:15
What are what are people interested in?
24:17
And the comments feature.
24:19
Yeah, bring a trailer.
24:21
Randy Nahnberg site.
24:22
That's what made it, obviously.
24:23
That's and that's really cool.
24:25
Yesterday, I saw not yesterday this week,
24:27
I saw a car and bring a trailer.
24:29
And I go, hey, that was my car.
24:32
I have a list of, you know,
24:33
I have a database of serial numbers
24:35
of cars and, you know, commented about it.
24:37
What I knew what the mileage was
24:39
when I bought it, what it was
24:40
when I sold it and, you know,
24:42
that that kind of helped help add to it.
24:44
I bought and sold online
24:46
and it's a it's a very seamless process.
24:50
You do deal with some amateur sellers
24:51
that, you know, sometimes they need to be guided about,
24:55
But in person, you get to see the car.
24:57
You get to talk to the consigner.
24:59
Right. You get to look at it
25:02
for witness marks of squeaks
25:05
and really get a good sense of what you're buying.
25:09
You know, when you go to one of these
25:10
name brand auctions like Barrett Jackson,
25:13
they're good at two things.
25:15
They're good at bringing good quality cars
25:19
And because of that,
25:20
they're good at bringing lots of bidders.
25:23
And the auction experience is very, very important.
25:26
And yes, there's a commission to be paid
25:29
on both sides of the sale.
25:30
But for a lot of people
25:33
and a lot of special cars,
25:35
you know, you want to sell that car in person
25:37
and you want to put it in front
25:38
of the biggest audience possible.
25:40
A newer car like 9-11 Porsche STs right now.
25:44
Which we're made in 2023
25:46
and they're now going for double sticker price
25:48
in the online market and the online auctions.
25:51
There's one that closes to bring a trailer today.
25:53
The sticker price was 350.
25:55
It's at 605 right now.
25:57
It's probably going to close in the 700s.
25:59
Well, everybody knows what that car is.
26:02
And with 1500 miles on it,
26:03
everybody knows what it ought to be.
26:05
You probably don't need to see that car
26:08
You can put the confidence online.
26:10
But Jeff Hayes Corvette
26:13
that has been rebuilt and rebuilt
26:15
and rest all modded to where it's now
26:18
a $900,000 car at Barrett Jackson in January.
26:22
When you see that car in person,
26:24
you see the quality of the work.
26:26
You talk to Jeff about how it went together,
26:29
about the choices he made about what he put into that car
26:32
and absolutely there's value to being there to bid and buy
26:36
and there's value there to being there as a seller
26:39
and educating the people about your car
26:41
and the special things about it.
26:43
Well, it's being a successful concor participant
26:46
is a good story behind the car
26:48
and standing with your car and saying,
26:49
hey, this was owned by so-and-so and this was this.
26:52
And to your point about bring a trailer for you
26:54
to be able to go on there and comment about the ownership
26:57
of that car just adds to the legitimacy of that car
27:00
and the provenance of that car, which creates value.
27:04
And sometimes it'll hurt an unknowing seller.
27:10
You know, they're like potato chips.
27:11
You can't have one.
27:12
They just keep coming in over there.
27:14
They had a bunch of them.
27:15
Well, it went on there and it was advertised as a 1964
27:19
and it was or 63 or four.
27:21
And it was very clear that to me
27:24
that it had a 76 to 80 tub chassis
27:28
and other changes and so forth.
27:30
And so the VIN really wasn't anywhere close to what
27:34
And enough commenters kind of educated everybody
27:38
to that point where they took the auction down
27:40
and then rewrote the whole description,
27:42
got with a consigner, explained to him what he had,
27:45
what he didn't have.
27:46
And the auction then it came back
27:47
and it was a successful sale.
27:49
But that's all because of the commenters
27:51
and the knowledge base of all those people
27:52
that know their car and can't wait
27:56
to share that information that most of it's correct.
27:58
Well, these regional sales a lot of times
28:00
a guy will buy a car
28:02
and there's not the due diligence by the auction house.
28:04
They're just putting them out there.
28:05
You know, here's 250 cars we're going to run today.
28:08
And sometimes the guys don't even know what size engine
28:11
they have in their car.
28:11
They don't know if it's a 327 or it's a 350
28:14
or a three, whatever.
28:15
And this is the owner.
28:16
And then it's so it goes to the new guy
28:19
and he doesn't know.
28:20
And when they can sign them with us, they'll say,
28:22
you'll ask him, well, tell me about your car.
28:24
Well, it's red and it's got a four speed.
28:28
And in a lot of those cases, those are cars
28:31
that people have inherited.
28:33
It was their dad's car, maybe, or it was something
28:36
that was bought on a whim without doing the due diligence.
28:39
And I get a lot of calls.
28:40
And I'm sure you do, too, from the kids and grandkids
28:44
of people who have passed.
28:45
And what do we do with this car?
28:47
You know, usually the sons and daughters
28:50
want to keep it because they rode in that car with their dad.
28:52
And it's part of their link to their family heritage.
28:55
And they'll keep it a while.
28:56
And then it's like, we don't really have room for this.
28:59
So we don't drive it off in enough or whatever.
29:01
Well, good, let's find out all we can about it
29:03
and give it a new life.
29:05
But I find the grandkids, they don't know anything about it.
29:08
They don't want to know anything about it.
29:10
They want it to find a new home.
29:12
And that's OK, too, because there
29:13
are fires for all those cars.
29:14
Well, and it's funny because the emotion level is,
29:17
if it's the wife of a gentleman,
29:20
then the emotion level of the cars
29:22
is it was part of the family.
29:23
If it's the children, it's part of the family,
29:26
but it's not quite as emotional.
29:27
And then the grandkids, as you said,
29:29
they're no interested whatsoever.
29:30
But it's interesting to see, because I
29:32
think what propels this hobby and the sales process of it
29:36
is that an auction is great for so many things.
29:38
A Jeff Hayes Corvette auction is the absolute best place for that.
29:41
I mean, those cars, I don't know, they're off the charts crazy.
29:45
But a lady to take her husband's collection
29:48
of 10 mid 50s Chevy Bel Airs to an auction
29:52
one after another can be gut wrenching for a lady like that.
29:56
And that's certainly an interesting aspect
30:00
of the hobby and the sales process.
30:03
And therefore feeds dealers like us
30:06
to be able to have inventory to sell as well, too.
30:08
Yes. And I think the more unique the car,
30:11
the more important the dealer experience is.
30:14
I have a friend in Massachusetts built a beautiful
30:18
Plymouth Coupe with a small block Chevy
30:20
and he and his race team put all kinds of work
30:24
and special touches into this, like the back window
30:27
rolled straight down.
30:28
Nobody does that, you know?
30:30
And Bob was, you know, should we take a talk?
30:32
And I told Bob, I said, no, because in the 90 seconds,
30:38
There's no way to educate the bidders
30:41
about how special this car is in the field.
30:43
So he consigned it to a dealership like yours,
30:46
who was able to talk to potential buyers
30:48
and show them everything about the car,
30:50
everything that made it special.
30:52
And he was rewarded with a sale.
30:55
So yeah, I mean, it's a great hobby.
30:58
There are all kinds of facets.
31:00
And, you know, to have a bricks and mortar dealership
31:04
where people can go and get a sense of what they might
31:06
be interested in, what they want to buy
31:08
and why they might prefer something over the other.
31:10
There's great value in that.
31:12
Maybe even more so than going through the auction process.
31:16
And, you know, when I see a description
31:19
and it says too much to list, I think that's just
31:22
what do you mean too much to list?
31:23
It's paper. It's free. It's words.
31:25
It's, you know, with us, we can put a thousand words
31:27
or 5,000 words if we want about a car.
31:30
And the one thing that we do that auction houses don't do
31:32
and I'm not knocking them for doing it is we talk
31:35
about the imperfections.
31:37
We bring up the fact that it's got a hole in the fender.
31:40
It's got some rust here.
31:41
If it's got a, you know, a little bit of a knock in the rear end
31:44
because a lot of times these people don't want to fix them
31:46
or don't have the wherewithal or the access to the money to fix them.
31:49
And so they want to sell them as is, as they are.
31:52
But you got to describe them accurately.
31:54
Well, you do. Yes. And again, that's that's that's part of the process.
31:57
Sure. Every MG I've ever owned has a leaking rear main seal
32:02
because the design was just such that when that car sits for a year
32:07
or more, that the main seal just kind of attaches itself to the crank.
32:11
So the first time you fire it, you're going to tear it. Right.
32:14
And then it's going to leak forever. Right.
32:15
So do you fix it? No.
32:17
If that's the only problem, no, you don't.
32:19
You just, you know, you wipe up the garage floor once a month.
32:22
Right. You know, from the little drips and that, you know,
32:24
we say it marks its spot.
32:26
It's kind of like your cat, but you don't fix it unless you're taking
32:30
that engine out to do a clutch job or something else.
32:33
There's there's no reason just to pull that just because the main,
32:36
you know, just because the rear main seal is big deal.
32:38
That's part of its charm. I don't know.
32:40
A lot of these cars leak and that's can be such a turn off to newbies
32:44
in the hobby that say, oh, that car's got, you know, if it's a corvair
32:48
and it doesn't leak, that's the problem.
32:49
You know, it's it's way way worse because now you got it.
32:53
You know, it's got no fluid in it. Right.
32:56
It's so true about that.
32:57
So, Bear Jackson is coming this year to Columbus, Ohio.
33:02
That's our next year, I guess, to Columbus.
33:04
That's amazing. I talked to Mike McCullough, VP of consignment
33:08
in Monterey, and they're really excited to be coming to the kind of
33:11
Midwest area because, you know, not everybody can afford to ship
33:15
their car all the way to Scottsdale.
33:16
Nobody can afford to maybe go to Scottsdale.
33:18
It's expensive, just like Monterey is expensive.
33:20
So I like the fact that they're trying to figure out
33:23
somewhere more in the middle.
33:25
Yeah. And they've they have done this before.
33:28
Had auctions in different cities.
33:30
Let's see, southern Connecticut, they've been to New Orleans.
33:34
They've been to Las Vegas.
33:35
And yeah, apparently they have done their research and decided
33:39
that the number of car enthusiasts within driving distance
33:43
or an easy flight to Columbus is going to work.
33:46
So, yeah, I'm excited about going there
33:48
and seeing how that works out for the first time.
33:50
Absolutely. I think it's mid to late June.
33:53
And, you know, it's amazing, you know, we watch these the contest
33:57
on picking the winning bid on a car that these guys do.
34:00
And in a Barrett Jackson auction is such a it's a volatile
34:03
environment, you know, a car that might be worth 50,000 might
34:06
get two guys against it and go to 70,000 or one of these
34:10
customs like Jeff Hayes Corvettes, you know, everybody
34:12
thinks it's going to go for 400 and it goes for 700 or more.
34:16
These guys that do the fantasy bid thing, how do they even
34:19
get close? It's amazing to me how good some of these guys
34:23
are at predicting value of these things.
34:26
There's one fellow who nailed it.
34:28
And what do you want to dodge Charger? Yeah, yeah.
34:31
And first off, he attended all the auctions, right.
34:35
So he looked at the cars very closely
34:37
and tried to get a sense of what similar cars were going
34:39
for in the room, because, as you know, now as a classic car
34:43
dealer, you only need one person to make a sale.
34:46
That's right. When you come to an auction, you need to
34:49
committed bidders to really ring the bell.
34:51
That's every consigner's dream.
34:53
If you get yours, who refused to lose, we used to see
34:57
Rick Hendrick and John Stiloupe fight and both of them with
35:01
pretty much unlimited budgets for classic cars.
35:04
Eventually they got together and became very good friends.
35:07
And, you know, so so they don't they don't collide
35:11
the auction block anymore.
35:12
But yeah, so we had people who would attend every
35:16
Verichaxon auction, really go through every one of those
35:19
cars and make informed bids.
35:22
One fellow was so good at it that he's now been
35:27
excluded from playing the fantasy bid game.
35:29
You know, congratulations on your prize.
35:32
But yeah, thanks, but bye-bye.
35:34
Yeah, the best of two bidders going at it.
35:37
And everybody knows, you know what I'm going to say
35:38
was Alan Jones and the guy in the Ferrari hat for
35:40
the Hendrick collection when they were going there
35:42
with that F-85 Oldsmobile.
35:44
That was that was maybe the most exciting auction
35:48
sequence we've ever seen on television.
35:52
And gosh, Alan, I can't think of his last name.
35:54
Ferrari hat guy. Yeah, yeah.
35:55
We called him on speed.
35:57
And it turned out he was a representative for
36:00
the actual bidder. Right.
36:02
And that's what he did.
36:03
And there's Jim Wicks.
36:05
There's other who does that for Mustangs and
36:07
Shelby's and there's fellows that come to the
36:09
auction and they're representative of bidders.
36:11
Tony Stewart came and bid on some cars, won some cars.
36:15
But the second time he came from Verichaxon,
36:17
he when he was on the stage bidding that people
36:20
were running him up, you know, hey, Tony Stewart,
36:21
he can pay whatever he wants for this car.
36:23
Well, you know, let's make it big.
36:24
Right. And so then when Tony wanted to buy
36:27
at the next Verichaxon, he used someone
36:30
nobody would recognize.
36:31
At least the Bidsforum. I get that.
36:32
I mean, absolutely understand this.
36:34
But yeah, Ferrari hat guy, he was
36:38
he climbed in the car and said, I'm not leaving.
36:41
I'm not leaving without this bar,
36:42
which was really, really cool.
36:44
And he got it for for his person.
36:47
But he eventually he suddenly disappeared
36:50
right from Verichaxon after it was found at one
36:53
auction that he was working both sides of a sale
36:57
and was representing both the seller
37:00
and one of the bidders. Oh, nice.
37:02
And that, you know, that didn't work.
37:04
That didn't work out well.
37:05
Yeah, that's that never saw him again.
37:07
That cool. Yeah. He's disappeared
37:09
into the witness protection program or something.
37:11
But there were some great personalities.
37:13
Dave Restler was a Corvette dealer in Montana
37:15
and Dave would bring all kinds of great GM cars.
37:18
And he would always wear a sport coat
37:20
the color of the car.
37:20
And as the bidding got up, he'd twirl that
37:22
sport coat up in the air and then he'd toss it
37:24
in the car, would go with the car.
37:26
And that was just that was his signature move.
37:28
So yeah, you got great cars.
37:30
You got great characters.
37:32
Yeah, Ron Pratt was the same way.
37:33
You know, what a great steel face guy, you know, just in there.
37:37
New what he wanted.
37:37
And, you know, when he wanted it, he wanted Stalupi's the same way.
37:41
And I love that he buys all these cars.
37:43
And then a couple of years later, he sells all of them.
37:45
And he buys them all again, you know, buys a whole another set.
37:47
And that's his hobby.
37:49
Yeah, how great is that?
37:50
You know, just not even if you want it, you buy it.
37:52
You don't have to think, oh, let's see.
37:54
OK, I got I got 300,000 in this can.
37:56
No, he doesn't have to do any of that.
37:57
So it's it's it's so fun to watch the characters in it.
38:01
And you know, a lot of people have grown up
38:04
in the collector car hobby because of Barrett Jackson
38:06
and watching you guys on TV doing this.
38:08
It became it became, you know, something that was entertaining
38:12
to people, even if you weren't into cars.
38:14
Oh, sure. And it enabled Barrett Jackson,
38:17
especially of all the auction houses to build a big lifestyle event
38:21
right around the classic car auction.
38:23
You come to Scottsdale in January.
38:25
It takes longer to go through the areas of display
38:31
of everything from jet planes to velvet paintings,
38:36
model cars and everything in between.
38:37
Velvet paint, you name it.
38:40
One year, somebody came in and displayed a mausoleum.
38:45
Because because that week in Scottsdale,
38:48
Barrett Jackson is the epicenter of disposable income.
38:52
Right. People come there.
38:54
They're going to leave with something.
38:55
Yeah, might as well make it a mausoleum.
38:57
So he didn't they didn't come back.
38:59
But yeah, it's OK. Absolutely.
39:01
You know, it's nice to see a rotation of people that are,
39:05
you know, the characters in the hobby anyway.
39:06
So it's always fun to see and great to watch.
39:10
I really appreciate you being on today.
39:12
I know we could do this all day and I know you got a lot to do.
39:15
My last question, my always last question is,
39:17
what's your daily driver? Oh, that's easy.
39:21
I mean, we, you know, obviously there are several cars
39:23
sitting here with lights and keys and keys at the ready.
39:28
Depending on the weather, right?
39:30
It's top down weather, Porsche, Boxster, GTS.
39:34
I think the best driving car Porsche makes, right?
39:37
Plenty of power, wonderful, amazing handling.
39:42
Yeah, great, great car with four point six.
39:45
If it's not top down weather and I'm looking outside and it's not today.
39:50
I have an Audi RS6 Avant.
39:53
Because everybody needs a 500 plus horse power station wagon.
39:57
Of course, I grew up.
39:58
My brother and I grew up in the back of a station wagon on long trips
40:01
with my folks. It's and it's so cool.
40:03
People look and oh, yeah, there's a wagon.
40:05
And then they go, well, those wheels are awful big.
40:08
Those brakes are huge.
40:09
Those tires are how much power does this thing have?
40:12
And they're all blown away. Absolutely.
40:14
Audi, that to me, that is, you know, the ultimate car.
40:18
If I had to downsize to a car, right, there are six.
40:22
Did you happen to see the Vista Cruiser 442
40:26
clone station wagon at Laguna Seca this past weekend?
40:29
They had a ice blue Vista Cruiser station wagon
40:33
with the 442 badges and stripes on it.
40:35
It belongs to Joe Golden, California.
40:39
It was parked right there at the Edelbrock Big Red Trail, which also owns.
40:42
He also owns he and his son, Connor, race historic
40:45
Transam cars with us. Right.
40:48
And that car, the hood, the Ramier hood
40:52
could be optioned on that station wagon, it was.
40:56
Now, you couldn't get the whole 442 W 30 package in suspension.
40:59
Sure. But you get the big engine and the hood,
41:02
and it is a Vista Cruiser in that light metallic blue.
41:06
And of all of our Transam cars in Transam Alley,
41:10
that wagon, it's a seventy one or two. Right.
41:15
Three seat wagon, nine passenger wagon.
41:17
That was the most photographed car in the whole aisle all week.
41:21
That is all I told Joe before the event opened to the public.
41:25
If you ever decide to park, please call me first.
41:29
Absolutely, I do too.
41:30
I was one of my favorite cars out there for a lot of weird reasons.
41:33
But anyway, Mike, Joey, thank you so much for being on the show.
41:37
We'll hope to see one of the events coming up soon and take care
41:40
and we'll enjoy watching you on the television over the next few years.
41:44
We hope. Yeah, thanks, Stuart.
41:46
We'll be at this weekend.
41:47
We're at Sonoma with the Shelby Convention and Labor Day weekend.
41:51
We're at Lime Rock for a vintage festival, 43, which is an annual for us.
41:55
Then in October, we'll be at Bere Jackson,
41:57
Scottsdale and then in January in Scottsdale and then early February.
42:02
It's NASCAR season. Absolutely.
42:04
Plenty to do. Thanks.
42:05
Thanks a lot. Mike, Joey, everybody.
42:06
Thanks for being on the show, Mike. Thank you.
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42:38
and the difficult to catch Roadrunner.
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Oh, there's no better place for birdwatching than Classic Automall.
42:50
And we're back with the Classic Automall Show from the Classic Automall
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Studio, Morgantown, Pennsylvania.
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My boy. How about that?
43:02
He's a knowledge base. Awesome.
43:04
Like that. That's, you know, you got to take a guy like that
43:07
and sit him down for about a week straight and just get all the knowledge
43:11
you can get out of his brain until you see that it's gone to empty.
43:13
Yeah, because I don't know if it ever will.
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I don't think it ever will.
43:16
I mean, just the knowledge that he has about everything that he talks
43:19
about, no matter what you ask him about, and you got to understand people.
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We don't send notes ahead of time to people to say, this is what we're going
43:25
to talk about. We're winging it up here.
43:28
And he's not showing off.
43:30
He just knows it. He just knows it.
43:31
He's not like, hey, look at me.
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I know that this is that's a three-quarter inch blah, blah, blah.
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No, it's just factual knowledge.
43:37
And when you ask him a question, he goes, oh, yeah, like the Vista Cruiser.
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You know, well, I got something cool that you don't know about.
43:44
He knew ever the paint code for it.
43:46
I'm like, hey, so fantastic.
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Thank you, Judy Stropis for getting us all these wonderful guests.
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She's amazing and could do it without her.
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So new arrivals this week.
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You know what I didn't print out?
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What? Where we sold cars this two weeks.
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So next one will be three weeks.
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So that'll be our whole show pretty much.
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At least segment two categorize it in in states by state.
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Yeah, as I flubbed the state emo, Pennsylvania or EOS or whatever it is.
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So you may as yeah, there you go.
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That's two for two.
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Thanks a lot. Appreciate that.
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New arrivals. How about that?
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1966 Ford Mustang hardtop raven black over black and white.
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A little Shelby influence.
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Rebuilt to 89 cubic inch for barrel V8 C4 automatic.
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Ninety eight thousand actual miles.
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Willwood disc brakes.
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Those will with disc brakes.
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Man, they must be selling a ton of those.
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Right. They are everything.
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Another new arrival.
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Another station wagon as we were just talking about station wagons.
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1989 Ford LT LTD Crown Victoria station wagon.
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Twilight blue metallic over shadow blue.
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Fifty nine thousand actual miles.
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Long term ownership.
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Deluxe Marty report.
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I didn't know you could get that for 89 wagons.
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There's Ford on it.
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Yeah, sure. Towing package.
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Four speed automatic.
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Another new arrival.
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The 1965 Plymouth Belvedere two door hardtop.
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Oh, this has got a rebuilt 440 cubic inch VA baby.
45:12
That thing will go because it's lightweight relative for the time.
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Yeah, three speed automatic, sinister good looks and Mopar police wheels.
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So it gives it that authoritarian look to it.
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How about the 1994 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 25th anniversary coupé?
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White over white and black.
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All stock and original in this car is 5.7 liter LTD one V8.
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That's just a great engine.
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And the anniversary TAs don't last long.
45:40
They do not last long.
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Four speed automatic T tops.
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This is a rare bird.
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Another Ford Crown Victoria.
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The 1956 Ford Crown Victoria Skyliner.
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Fiesta red and colonial wide over red and white.
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312 cubic inch four barrel V8.
45:55
I'd like to be mistaken for the Vegomatic.
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It's got AC power steering and brakes.
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Very well restored.
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Remember when classic cars?
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The number one question for a while was,
46:06
does it have power steering and power brakes?
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And we don't quite get that as much.
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Either people are able to ascertain that
46:12
by seeing it in the photographs
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and maybe they didn't know what to look for in the past
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or it doesn't matter as much.
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I don't know, but it's funny.
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It's not as, it doesn't come up as often
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as you used to come up.
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So, and last but not least,
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the 1972 Dodge Challenger hard top.
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So it has no comparables in life.
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360 cubic inch Magnum V8.
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Torque flight automatic.
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It's very, very, very, very cool car.
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So that's some of our new arrivals this week.
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Go on our website, classicautomall.com.
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Don't forget we've got an auction coming up,
46:49
coming up September the 19th.
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I think you're about done with the descriptions,
46:57
Yeah, that was, it's a little easier
46:59
to write a description when you don't have keys,
47:01
a dead start, you don't have a battery.
47:06
Some of them are real good though.
47:06
Some of them are actually some good stuff.
47:09
And if you're driving by in the turnpike,
47:10
just look at them because we've got them right outside.
47:12
Honk, if you see it.
47:14
When I first told my wife, Kathy,
47:15
that we were going to line up all these cars
47:17
along the turnpike, she said, you lost your mind.
47:19
What are you thinking?
47:20
That is, and we looked at it and it looks great.
47:24
It's got a good feel to it.
47:26
The army trucks are out there,
47:27
some brightly colored stuff interspersed.
47:29
We've got a GTO that's going to probably
47:34
Now, this auction, September the 19th,
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will be here at Classic Automall.
47:37
You can bid in person.
47:38
You can bid by telephone or you can bid online.
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It's an 8% buyer's premium if you bid in person.
47:45
It's 10% if you bid online or by telephone.
47:48
You have to pre-register.
47:49
So go on our website.
47:51
You can do a preliminary registration
47:53
to get us the information and get the ball rolling.
47:56
And then we'll reach out to you
47:57
and let you know what we need from you
47:58
in order to bid and deposits and this and that
48:01
and all that kind of cool stuff.
48:03
We'll be on our website.
48:04
You can see the inventory, classicautomall.com.
48:06
Go to the auction tab.
48:08
You can go on proxy bid and see our inventory.
48:12
And you can also go on bid wrangler under guy or auctions
48:15
and see there as well too.
48:17
So there's a lot of places to see.
48:18
Plus the ads were running.
48:19
Plus we've got flyers out and all this.
48:23
And it's going to be quite,
48:25
I think it's going to knock on wood.
48:27
It's going to be quite the barn burner for what it is.
48:28
They'll bring what they're worth without question.
48:32
And a lot of them, like I said,
48:34
a lot of them do not have titles.
48:36
And I know the first question is,
48:38
well, how do I get a title?
48:40
And I don't mean that I don't know.
48:42
I mean that if you,
48:44
a lot of people buy these for parts cars
48:46
or they buy it for a parade use.
48:47
And they never, you know,
48:49
for whatever reason they don't get a title.
48:51
But if you want to get a title,
48:53
there are ways to do it.
48:54
There's nothing we can provide you
48:55
other than a bill of sale period.
48:57
We know we provide you a bill of sale,
48:58
notarized bill of sale,
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whatever you can do with that going forward,
49:03
whether you're local DMV,
49:04
whether it's in Pennsylvania
49:05
or some other state or some other country,
49:08
that's entirely up to you.
49:09
We don't make any warranties or representations
49:11
that you'll ever be able to get a title for it.
49:13
And do I sound like I'm being discouraging?
49:15
Yes, I do in some respects
49:17
because I want you to know what you're getting.
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And I want you to don't want you
49:20
to have false expectations
49:22
of what you can and can't get.
49:23
Don't call me three weeks later
49:24
and say, well, I can't get a title.
49:29
So be aware of that.
49:30
Do your due diligence ahead of time.
49:32
Find out what it takes.
49:33
I think you can petition courts
49:35
and get a bond and things like that.
49:37
But again, that's all based on your state
49:39
and where you live and what you can do.
49:41
So go there, talk to them,
49:43
find out what the requirements are.
49:46
Maybe there's a path.
49:48
Maybe you know somebody at a DMV
49:50
Maybe you can do something.
49:52
There's maybe ways to do it.
49:53
We just don't do it or don't know how to do it.
49:57
So with that said, we'll have,
49:59
I think about 80-something cars or vehicles,
50:03
We've got some killer army stuff,
50:05
some troop carriers.
50:06
We've got a tow truck.
50:07
We've got just some really neat stuff
50:10
that you don't see very often.
50:11
Hetzels, Rolls Royce.
50:13
We're near Valley Forge
50:15
where they had the American Revolution reenacting.
50:17
You could reenact a war
50:19
or if you have a movie prop house,
50:21
you got enough army vehicles out there to do a movie.
50:23
You could do a movie.
50:24
So if you're looking for do a movie
50:25
and if you come down the Turnpike,
50:27
especially if you're heading east
50:29
on the Pennsylvania Turnpike,
50:31
which is where we're located.
50:32
Look to your right.
50:33
Because you're going to see a row of cars
50:35
and a sign out there that we're going to put up today.
50:37
We've got to drive some stakes in the ground.
50:38
I thought I'd get out there and do that.
50:40
Show the boys how it's done, but yep, yep.
50:43
I'll wire that 220, 220, whatever it takes.
50:47
But you'll be able to see them all.
50:48
You can get off at the Exit 298
50:51
and just loop around and come and see all of them.
50:53
If you're going westbound and you see it,
50:55
you've got to go to somewhere.
50:57
Kingdom coming back.
50:59
Next, Redding Exit.
51:01
To JR's point, I wrote a record the other day
51:03
and in the write-up I wrote,
51:04
Holly would pay attention to this.
51:06
If you're doing a Mad Max movie,
51:08
this truck is perfect.
51:09
I mean, it looks great.
51:10
It's a Mac, isn't it a Mac?
51:12
I think that one's a Mac.
51:13
So yeah, I mean, how perfect is that?
51:14
And do you have other favorites?
51:16
Now, if you were going to buy,
51:18
not to own or to drive or just whatever,
51:22
Do you have a couple of favorites?
51:25
I like the one-troop carrier Dodge.
51:27
I really, really like that.
51:28
And then there's another one that I'm not going to mention it.
51:31
Because we're hoping this one falls into the right now.
51:35
Steve and I both have our eyes on a couple of them.
51:37
I can tell you the Edsel Wagon
51:39
is probably the hands-down favorite of every.
51:41
That is my number one.
51:43
Second would be that 59 El Camino.
51:46
That's pretty rare.
51:47
Well, that's the first year for the El Camino
51:49
and it was an interesting body style.
51:51
It was that same body style that the 59 Impala had.
51:54
It basically looked like Impala.
51:56
Even the fins in the back kind of.
51:59
They're the same in a pickup truck environment.
52:01
And it's like a mullet, a business up front party
52:05
Do you know if that's no title?
52:07
I don't think it has a title.
52:08
Yeah, now I actually did a mock drawing
52:13
and said if money was no object,
52:15
I would take another El Camino 59
52:18
and make it a crew cab, four-door.
52:20
Well, there you go.
52:21
So there you chopped that baby up and there you are.
52:24
So we were talking earlier about Monterey
52:27
and it was, we got in Sunday and.
52:31
I missed my flight.
52:33
By the way, the ticket you sent me, I couldn't make.
52:35
I didn't get mine either.
52:36
The funniest thing is when we got to the hotel
52:38
and Kathy said, what do you mean
52:39
they don't have air conditioning?
52:41
And not that she's a prima donna.
52:43
Don't get me wrong, folks.
52:44
But people are used to air, people,
52:46
when was the last time you went to a hotel
52:47
that didn't have air conditioning?
52:48
You know, I don't remember.
52:50
Maybe in a kid in a camp in the Smoky Mountains.
52:54
You know, it was on a lumpy mattress.
52:56
But no air conditioning because in California,
52:59
especially in Monterey and Carmel area,
53:01
it was 65 degrees was the high, maybe 68.
53:05
And at night it was in the 50s.
53:06
And so you open the windows and get a breeze coming through.
53:09
And even in Southern California, in Los Angeles,
53:11
lots of nice, nice homes back in the day,
53:14
back in the 80s and even 90s didn't have air conditioning.
53:17
The Santa Ana winds would come in
53:19
and you'd open your windows
53:20
and you'd get a nice breezer
53:21
and you really didn't need it.
53:23
My friend in Seattle was in the car business
53:24
that a lot of cars didn't have air conditioning.
53:27
You see so many cars without air conditioning.
53:29
But it's certainly unusual to see that.
53:32
And a lot of people were kind of surprised at that.
53:33
But anyway, it was so funny in Carmel,
53:36
you know, the cars running around town,
53:38
the BMWs and the Porsches and all that.
53:40
And there, when every time they let off the gas,
53:42
there's too much fuel goes into the exhaust
53:45
and it's pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa.
53:47
And this went on, it was like a jake break
53:50
It was all night long.
53:52
But it didn't really, after a while,
53:53
it kind of just blended in with everything.
53:55
I'm surprised California doesn't have a sound ordinance.
53:57
They probably do, but they probably looked the other way
53:59
during Monterey Week.
54:00
They seemed to be a little less strict
54:04
than you would normally see under in that time.
54:06
And everybody talked about how bad the traffic is
54:08
at Monterey and it really wasn't that bad.
54:10
We had, we timed it well.
54:12
We had lots of plans.
54:14
We planned out dinners.
54:15
We planned out lunches.
54:16
We planned out everything that we were going to do.
54:17
So it wasn't that, you know, we caught it just right.
54:22
I think there was a couple of times we got caught,
54:24
even Sunday morning at Pebble Beach,
54:26
we got up at 7, we left at 7.30,
54:28
didn't start till nine.
54:29
We got there, we waited about 10 minutes to get in.
54:32
Thursday, as Mike Joy was referring to,
54:35
the tour to elegance was unbelievable.
54:37
And I got some great video of that.
54:39
But all the cars lined up at like 7 a.m.
54:42
and then at 9 a.m. they all took off.
54:43
And it was so cool.
54:44
And even the best in show,
54:46
the Tulipwood, Hispanic Swayza was in the drive.
54:50
Yeah. I mean, so, you know,
54:52
that's a multi-multi-million dollar car.
54:55
Of course, it wasn't like we didn't see lots of cars.
54:58
We saw Singer Porsches by the handful.
55:01
I bet you we saw 20 or 30 of them.
55:04
I think I've seen one in my entire life, you know.
55:07
And except for, you know, in pictures.
55:10
And lots of Lamborghinis.
55:12
Lamborghini, Lamborghini, Lamborghini, Lamborghini.
55:16
And of course, me as the car guy points out every car
55:19
that goes past, it's even remotely cool.
55:21
It's like I'm back and my dad finally told me when I was 16,
55:24
he said, if you'll just stop talking about transams,
55:27
He said, but shut up.
55:28
I don't want to hear about, look, there's a transam.
55:30
Dad, look, there, you know, it's got, uh, it's enough.
55:32
Finally bought one.
55:33
Finally bought one and said, never speak of these again.
55:36
And I said, OK, that's a fair deal.
55:37
Good deal, good deal.
55:38
I'm like an excellent deal, so.
55:40
But we went to the motorlux party
55:42
that Hagerty puts on on Wednesday night.
55:44
Tuesday night, let me back up, I was invited to a dinner
55:47
that Hagerty puts on at the Hagerty house.
55:49
And this thing looked like a movie set.
55:52
It was like decorated and had the Hagerty blocked letter,
55:55
lit up letters on the front.
55:57
And it was amazing.
55:58
It was so cool and a cool round table
56:00
and lots of dealers from all kinds of eras.
56:02
And it was a lot of fun.
56:04
And it was one of those things that, you know,
56:07
you don't get to do very often,
56:10
get together with like-minded people
56:11
and talk about what's going on in the hobby.
56:14
Issues that you're having, things that are working,
56:17
things that aren't, or you don't have to give away trade secrets.
56:19
You just got to talk in general terms about stuff.
56:21
So it was a lot of fun to do that.
56:23
And got to see our buddy, Scott Pruitt,
56:25
who was running the IROC series and is,
56:28
I think it was a Dodge Daytona.
56:29
He was running, I don't even remember now.
56:30
I heard half the people at Monterey
56:31
were former guests of the classic on-the-mode show.
56:35
We ran into lots of people that had been on the show.
56:38
And Pebble Beach Sunday was packed.
56:41
I mean, I don't think it,
56:43
I've seen it in pictures before
56:44
and it never looked like there was that many people there.
56:46
The line to buy merchandise was over 45 minutes
56:49
just to buy a t-shirt.
56:52
I saw some videos already up on YouTube
56:54
and you can see the crowds of people.
56:55
It looked like, you know, a big show.
56:56
Well, and you think about that the cheapest ticket
57:00
So you start doing the math and parking and, you know,
57:03
the whatever other things that you can do
57:06
while you're there.
57:06
But it was overloaded in a good way.
57:09
It wasn't overwhelming overload
57:11
because we knew what we were doing.
57:12
And we know next time there's some things that we won't do
57:14
and we'll add some things that we did do and seasoned.
57:17
Yeah, you learn a little bit about it,
57:19
about how to make it work best for you.
57:21
And what events are,
57:23
I mean, the car shows themselves are great,
57:25
but you could sit on any city street on a folding chair.
57:28
And see, you know, every kind of car
57:30
you can ever imagine.
57:32
Veyrons and Sheeran's at the gas station
57:35
at 11 o'clock at night getting gas.
57:36
And a lot of people do that.
57:37
They just go out there, go up there and hang out.
57:39
And I think people actually ship their cars
57:41
from other parts of the world just to drive around there,
57:46
And next time I will certainly buy a ship stuff home.
57:51
Because you get so many books and magazines and swag
57:53
and all, yeah, that's the one I wanted to ask my joys.
57:56
How many, how much Fox swag does he have?
58:00
And CVS and speed vision and all the others.
58:04
So, but we had a great time out there.
58:06
We met a lot of wonderful people.
58:08
It was funny looking at all the transporters lined up.
58:12
They were hauling the cars out there,
58:14
whether it's auction cars or concours cars or whatever.
58:16
There was rows and rows and rows of car haulers.
58:19
And they had all kinds of things in the,
58:21
you know, you just wander around the corner
58:23
and there would be parked on the street,
58:25
Mercedes Benz going.
58:27
Just parked on the side of the road.
58:29
Like, you know, it's a million five minimum car.
58:34
It's the ultimate car event I think in the country.
58:37
And you're seeing a little bit of a younger skew
58:39
towards people running around and you're seeing
58:41
some of the tuner cars there, which is great.
58:43
I mean, listen, it's, it is what it is.
58:45
Laguna Seca, as I said, was amazing.
58:47
The corkscrew, we went all the way up there.
58:49
It was 10 degrees cooler up there watching the race
58:52
and watching those cars come off that corkscrew.
58:53
If you've never seen it, Google it.
58:57
I'm so, I know I'm supposed to use my cough button.
58:59
We were up there and it was nice and cool
59:03
and breezy and the temperature was perfect.
59:05
I mean, it just, it really turned out
59:08
to be a really a fun trip.
59:10
And every day that we were there,
59:12
my wife and I said at the end of the day,
59:14
if we went home today, we would consider it a success.
59:16
That was from day one.
59:18
So we hope to do it again next year.
59:19
And if you haven't done it, do it.
59:25
Stupid expensive, but it's a lot of fun.
59:27
So next week on the show, we'll should have a,
59:30
I don't, we do have a list of guests for next week.
59:34
I wrote it down on the other three
59:35
by five part from last week.
59:38
It's a big old secret.
59:39
So catch us on YouTube,
59:42
catch us on Spotify and Buzzsprout and.
59:46
Apple, whatever, all the different things.
59:48
All the major podcasts.
59:49
Well, we now have a new app.
59:51
And you're going to be announcing that.
59:53
You can, we'll have a link on our website
59:56
and our YouTube channel and all that.
59:58
You can just have it right on your phone
59:59
and watch our show or listen to it.
00:02
And link back right to the classic
00:03
bottom off a car comes up that you're,
00:05
hey, I want to take a closer look at that.
00:06
You can, all of that.
00:08
I'd die and gone to heaven with two things
00:10
that have happened this week.
00:10
We've got our own app and AI quoted us as about a car.
00:16
According to classic order.
00:17
They do, they absolutely do.
00:18
1967 Mustang was blah, blah, blah.
00:20
I'm running into that more and more.
00:22
And anytime you put in a make and model of a car,
00:24
especially older car,
00:26
inevitably our pictures come up.
00:28
It's usually in the front.
00:30
We have saturated the internet.
00:33
If you're interested in the auction again,
00:35
go to classicautomall.com.
00:37
Click on the auction tab.
00:38
It'll tell you how to get through it.
00:39
Give us a call directly here.
00:41
888-227-0914, classicautomall.com.
00:45
Any way you want to reach us,
00:47
We'll get back to you and figure it out.
00:49
And if we don't get back to you,
00:50
call up and ask for me
00:51
and I'll chew out whoever was supposed to call you
00:55
We'll catch you next time
00:56
on the Classic Automall Show.
00:57
We'll see you then.
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The Classic Automall Show.
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With their host, Stuart Howden,
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executive producer, Steve Sefair,
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produced and engineered by yours truly, J.R. Russ,
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video editor, Randy Lamby.
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Available on classicautomall.com,
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YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Music courtesy of the Pat Travers Band
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for tour dates, contact, and stuff,
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visit pattravers.com.
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Produced by Car Smarts Media,
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copyright all rights reserved.
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