Exploring the intersection of classic cars and vintage neon signs, this episode features John Hovis sharing his passion for collecting iconic signage and its nostalgic significance. The discussion delves into the evolution of car collections, generational shifts in automotive interests, and the unique stories behind various neon signs. Additionally, a detailed review of the 2023 Lexus LX600 F Sport highlights its luxury features, performance specs, and comparisons with competitors, making for an engaging blend of nostalgia and modern automotive insights.
Rev up your nostalgia engines as we take a cruise down memory lane at the renown HEMI Hideout, celebrating the timeless connection between classic cars and neon-lit diner days. On today's journey, we are thrilled to share the newest treasure in the sign collection at the HEMI Hideout. It is an iconic piece from Russell Chevrolet in Missouri, which sparks a vivid conversation about the history and enduring charm of neon signs in the car collector's world. But it's not just about the glow; we also explore the evolving trends in car collecting, musing over the stories steeped in each artifact we preserve.
The pulse of the car enthusiast community beats strong at events like the Hemi Hideout Charity Event, and you're invited to ride shotgun as we recount the electrifying atmosphere and the exceptional finds, including a conversation piece from Lagrange, Texas that's sure to fuel your curiosity. Networking isn't just business cards; it's about shared passions and the thrill of the hunt for the next great piece of automotive history. As we prepare to open the doors to fellow aficionados, we're also turning the spotlight on our commitment to charity, reminding us all that our shared love can drive positive change in the world.
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This is new, the white star is new and in the back back there the pure old gasoline.
That's new.
So we're always it looks full, but you can keep jamming stuff in.
Well, we know that, because I remember I came out here.
I think you only had a few signs, that's right, but I've seen this sign collection grow exponentially.
Now there's a John.
Hovis word.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
I'm from Memorial.
I know that, and when you say that you're supposed to put up your little pinky finger and you know, when in doubt, pinky out.
Wow, and mother pin motor oil?
I don't know about that either.
That one's been there almost since day one Pretty close blind on.
That's right?
Well, since we're we're showing the wide show, let's show the wide shot from behind.
No, this, this one behind us, the middle one there, yeah, so this thing that people are looking at if they're watching us, it's this thing behind us here, and I always find that story fascinating and I hope that you'll share that with us, john.
Tell us about the sign and how you got it.
Okay.
So that sign came off of Russell Chevrolet and Cape Girard of Missouri.
It was a double sided sign on top of a Chevrolet dealership.
That's Rusty the wrestler and their.
Their slogan was I can't remember the slogan Welcome to my world.
Yeah, I can't even name, but anyway a cool sign.
They had to pay Looney Tunes or Warner bro, I think, looney Tunes a fee to use porky the pig.
Is that working?
That's porky.
Well, he'd been on a diet on that one.
Yeah, he has.
So they neon them up as a root and toot and cowboy.
It was originally a neon porcelain sign.
We added the gunshot blast to animate it.
Perfect and just.
It just happened to fit in that area like we framed it.
Almost perfect, fit Well, that that is as it's been here from the beginning day one.
Yeah, that was first time we ever put up.
Well, I'll tell you what, because that is the signatures for me, yeah, signature sign, and it speaks volumes about who you are.
Well, maybe you're in your generation, our generation.
Yes, that's right, it does, and it's kind of an iconic sign now for him.
He hideout like the bull in the Astrodome is an iconic sign.
But if you grew up in the southeast corner, missouri, in the 1950s and 60s, you recognize that sign.
That was on a huge thing on top of the dealership.
So well, it used to be.
What was the name of the car dealership down in the Gulf Freeway here locally?
Sam the Rocket man Oldsmobile, and they had the big rocket ship out front of the Oldsmobile dealership that was cool.
Wasn't it and that was Sam the Rocket man.
Yeah, we had some great neon signs and this is what we're trying to capture here the 1950s or 60s the heyday of neon, when I was younger and or a boy, really and then the 60s was really the tail end and that contingent.
The neon signs are electrically inefficient.
We're burning probably 1100 amps of power right now as we sit and, of course, LED is taken over, but nothing has a look like neon.
That's right.
So, and just for all of you tree huggers out there, let's let's tell everybody that you kind of got your own.
You got your own air conditioning system.
You're kind of, you're kind of on your own yeah little bit little bit, yeah, so got a pretty ferocious electric bill with all these signs on, but the we are a geothermal air condition, so that's that that's how.
yeah, well, especially when it's 108 degrees outside not that today, but yeah, exactly Well as a car collection grown at all Nope, no, it's actually shrunk and it'll continue to shrink a little bit as time goes.
So what's that?
about, and what cars have you gotten rid of?
Well, you know, in all the guys that love the 55, 56, 57 Chevrolets and the Thunderbirds and all that stuff, those guys have gotten older and they've sold their cars that they love when they were kids and now the prices of those have come way down.
So if I sit on this 19, late sixties, early seventies stuff too long what I think is cool?
The next generation is nice, but you know yeah, so you got it there's a time to buy.
And there's a lot of truth to that.
We talked to our buddy Woody with Auto Appraisal Network last week.
I think it was maybe four years.
So and that generational change you're talking about this older group.
The younger kids aren't interested in it, so they're selling them off and there's nobody there to buy them.
Well, I think, john, the writing's on the wall.
I think what you need to do is you need to go to all the rice rockets, bring those all in here.
Well, I might do that.
Well, I'm still stuck on triumphs.
That's all there.
Triumphs and.
BSA.
That's right, there's one of them I'd like to have over there if you decide you want to get out of that business.
Yeah, okay.
But you know things that were fun for me, trying to hang on the good old days, what this is all about.
And I tell everybody I've purchased the ability to look after this stuff for a little window and then it'll go on somebody else.
My wife really didn't care about it, or my kids don't really care about it, so it'll go on somebody else one day and it'll be with us.
It'll be what it'll be.
But in the meantime we're going to have our fun while we can do that.
All of us are going to go down swinging.
Yes, we are.
So the clock's ticking on one way or another, we're going down.
But I'm going to go down swinging.
Yeah, exactly.
Well you know, I was telling John off the air before we went on this morning, the trials and tribulations and holding a 23 year old car yes, never been wrecked or anything like that.
I bought it was 16,000 miles on it.
Now it's got 33,000 miles on it.
So I've driven it a bit.
But the problem is now not mechanical, it's electrical.
I've got more electrical issues with the Corvette than you can imagine because the stuff is, you know, hung up.
The latest thing that I've discovered is the telescoping steering wheel.
It doesn't work anymore.
So how do you fix that?
Take the steering wheel off and get down inside the steering column.
Guess what?
It's got an airbag in front of it.
You think I'm going to mess with that?
No, oh heck.
No, I'd like to be there when you do yeah, you would.
Yeah, you could put up a camera about 20 feet away, so you can put the two wires together Boom, boom.
Yeah, I know you.
So the car collection.
So what have you sold out of the car collection?
Well, I had a 66 cornet Hemi.
I sold that.
I had a 1971 triple black Kuda.
There was a 383 car sold that.
There's been two or three Don, but not a whole lot and and.
Do you still have any in the auxiliary barn back in the back?
I have Diane's Packard convertible.
It's really a cool car 56 convertible and a two door.
Suburban you don't see many of those no.
They're rare, my gosh, what is that?
from the 50s, 60, 66 model, really early days of suburban.
They were three door, remember right, yeah and you see those, but two doors are rare.
So to get into the back you had to fold up the passenger seat and everybody climb in.
It's really kind of a weird setup.
But you don't see two door suburban.
Would you like to buy one?
No, Well, I tell you what next time we need to replace the in-wheel time truck that might hook us up there.
It's cool, it's beautiful too.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't want to know how much you want for it, though.
You don't worry about it.
No, I won't because I can't afford it anyway.
All right, so in the hemi hideout you also have a 1950s style diner.
Yes.
Did you steal that idea from an actual diner from the?
50s.
I can't say we stole it from a specific one, but we got.
We caught the flavor, and Shelly Gates are the young lady that did interior design here.
She bought all the fabrics and materials and had the carpenters build it.
So it has the look of a 1950s diner is not officially an old one, didn't you?
tell me, though, that that wasn't in the original plans of the hideout that I things just evolve.
Yeah, I don't think we had plans to put that in, it just happened.
Yeah, and Bill Sight's our friend.
He had a lot of input on all this.
It was four people that put heart soul this initially, and then now as many as 30 people that put Sweat equity into what we've done here.
We all have ownership in this, but bill and shelly would have been the ones that started have ownership in this too.
You do indeed.
We've been friends a long time.
You guys been a big part of it.
Thank you, thank you.
We enjoy coming out here and doing these broadcasts.
It's it's always an experience and a learning experience, to say the least.
Texas Pacific gasoline I see one of those signs over there.
Yes, texas Pacific.
I don't believe that I've ever heard of that, but it does have.
The one thing that I do recognize, and that is the old ethyl Gasoline logo.
That's right, signia Uh in the one that's on the floor back there, yeah and uh, you don't see that anymore either.
No, and Texas Pacific was a railroad that was based out of Fort Worth and they went from Texas to the west coast.
And uh, at first all the locomotives were Wood burners or coal burners Excuse me, coal burners.
And then they discovered oil in thurber, texas.
They bought the land and they mined all the coal out, and then that that's how they fed the locomotives.
And then they found oil underneath.
They converted all their locomotives to oil burners and they produced so much oil out of this field they started their own refinery and gas stations.
So the one you're looking at with the ethyl logo would be a curb sign, a mom and pop gas station, and then the one up above with the tp logo the indian tp that would have been, you know, a fancier sign that hung from a pole or Off the building.
Yeah, sure, um, I I don't.
I don't see anything that draws my attention, but what do you have?
Anything around us here that uh that, besides the ones over here that you uh current?
Let's see.
Well, rebel rebel gas.
Rebel gas is out of ridley, mississippi, and they sold gasoline and and uh, you know the areas around mississippi, louisiana, alabama, tennessee, I'm assuming.
I'm not sure exactly, but only uh 20 some out of those signs were ever made.
So you got the rebel oil and then down there behind that dixie sign it says rebel gas.
There were only 20 something Signs of the gasoline and I think 16 of the oil.
These are rare, so people love them.
We have people.
Sometimes, though, we'll have uh folks that are businesses or want to come rent him behind out and they want me to cover that up and I'm like, no, that's just a gasoline sign.
There's just no meaning beyond that.
Yeah, yeah.
So no, I'm not covering it up or taking it down on it.
Yeah, no, that's a piece of what's going on.
Proud of that, have that absolutely.
And.
I feel the same way.
Yeah, I want to delve into just a little bit about how it was, how it evolved, because you know, I've kind of evolved with you and you've taught me some things about the whole sign collection thing and that was really new to you when you started the hemi hideout and since then, clearly with this collection, that that has evolved as well, because one guy tells another guy and then they tell you oh yeah, john, I know this guy up in such and such and he's got some signs
like that.
You contact him and so this whole network it's kind of like a car club, that's true, and it's a tight circle.
Yeah, it's a tight circle and you know, uh, craig bierman kind of gave me some hints about that with his collection.
Yes and uh, it's, it's amazing the circles that are formed when you get into a hobby, and especially like signs that's right cars, etc.
It's amazing, yeah, when you, when you break into that, you're trying to break into that crowd.
Uh, you kind of have to be, uh, slip under the radar, not be too much of a loudmouth.
You'd have a hard time doing it, dealing with you, I know.
I'm saying you got to kind of have to quietly get into the group and Pop up.
If you go in there beating your gums raising, can you don't get in but, to give you an example that flower, that sourcing Greenhouse sign we're looking at, a guy in Quebec found that it was in Lagrange, texas.
He calls me some man, you need to go take a look at this.
I took off.
As soon as he called me, it took off and I bought it.
So yeah, there's a network of people out there that Help you find so was that?
how did you network the monkeys?
Oh, I bought that.
I bought that.
That was on an internet cell that a guy guy was selling out of Niagara Falls and I know him, he's a dealer and didn't you post something?
you've got a Prehistoric elephant head or something, or what's dinosaur.
Well, there's, there's a t-rex t-rex, so that's a replica.
That's not the real deal, that's a replica.
The turtle in there is 100 million years old the turtle, but the yeah, it's the turtles on.
It's a true.
It's 100 million years old.
You can actually take a piece of the flesh and get within a hundred years of how old it is.
So give or take a million, but if you live to be 80 years old, that's 1,000,250, thousand generations old see you got goals done.
I do have goals, yeah to be to be in part of John's collection.
Yeah.
I'm gonna mummify you and stand you up in the corner.
I'm already mummified, my friend.
Well, it's truly amazing.
So we got more people coming into.
The event officially starts at 1030.
That's right.
That's right, and it's by now.
You have to register ahead.
Yes, she checks the list.
Ten dollars a person, yes, and you match the money to your local Brookshire Charities yes, berkshire, sealy, katie and Folcher, and we have seven charities we try to fund, so very good.
Yeah Well, John, it's wonderful to be here.
Thank you so much and we appreciate it.
We're looking for the other 450 people to show up momentarily.
Yeah, so they're supposed to start coming in around 10 and now and they should be getting piling in here pretty quick.
So you're gonna have your usual.
Let's let me show you a little bit about the hemi hideout on the microphone.
Yes we'll do that at 11 o'clock.
Well, hopefully we can plug into that, okay, and let everybody hear you absolutely.
I'll let Shelley know you want to do that.
All right, very good, thank you, sir.
Thank you guys the host of today's hemi hideout event.
That, I think, is pretty much a sellout at this point and if you're not here, you ain't coming.
Just saying all right Time now for the racing calendar.
We got a break?
Oh, we have a break.
Oh, okay, let's do the break and then we will do the racing calendar.
Is that okay?
Fine with me?
Sorry, hey.
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Welcome back to the In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show Coming to you live in many applications from the Hovis's Hemi hideout out here in Brookshire, texas.
This morning Sharon just came up and said to me that there is a ginormous number of cars trying to get in it's 1030,.
It's that time of the morning and so apparently they're all lined up and they're taking, and Mars is going to take his.
After his review, he's going to take his camera out there and see what he can capture.
We'll see how all that works out.
In the meantime and in between time, before we get to Mars, review of the 23 Lexus LX600, we're going to have Jeff do the racing calendar sponsored by the.
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Challenge you bet.
So right now, tomorrow, you've got the Atlanta Motor Speedway.
They got NASCAR in Atlanta.
That is coming on at 3 pm Eastern time.
It is on Fox.
There's tickets still available, mike, so if you want to go, you better get going.
Indycar Series is starting March 10th, so we got a little bit of weight on that.
Formula One is in Bahrain right now.
Or this past week they've been doing some testing and, of course, they've got another.
That's your favorite, they've got manhole covers again.
They're hitting the manhole covers and they're destroying cars and getting things of that nature.
Why don't?
they attack well, those things down.
It's Bahrain, I don't know it's.
I had something to do.
They're lucky they had.
Tarla, sort of there.
And then March 9th you've got Pep Boys coming up with the NHRA and again back to the racing.
You've got cup practice going on right now on FS1.
10.30
this morning is start.
I refuse to buy FS1.
Ok, and then you've got the truck race today at 1 pm on FS1.
And then you also have the Xfinity race today at 4 o'clock.
That's also on FX1.
Tickets are available.
So when you leave here, get going.
Guess what?
I am not.
I refuse to pay more money for television.
I'm not doing it.
I get you it's not on my Roku streaming, which ABC 13 is on there, or it's not on regular broadcast television.
It ain't happening, brother.
I'm sorry, got you, it's not going to happen.
Lots of money, yeah, no kidding.
All right Time now for this hour's car review.
Mr Mars had a chance to dive not the 24, but the 23.
Lexus LX600 F Sport Go, mike.
I just made yes.
Yes, so this is the fourth generation of the LX series.
This came out in 2022.
So they've been kind of doing some update since.
Is this the one with the weird back door, the way you have to open it to the side?
No, no, no, no, no, they fixed that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it comes in five trim levels.
You got the LX, which is actually a five passenger model, comes in premium F sport handling luxury.
Those are seven passenger and then you get to the ultra luxury, top of the line, very top of the line.
It's actually a four passenger vehicle because it's got no third row and it's two bucket seats in the second row.
So we were driving the F sport LX600, f sport package and so we had the seven passenger model.
So we had the three rows.
That has the large grill up front LED lighting on all around, got the power moonroof inside of it, got a power rear lift gate, roof rails, roll on some really nice 22 inch F sport wheels that are strictly for the F sport models.
And it has the active height control so you can raise it and lower it, making it a little bit easier to get it out of the vehicle.
Typically it shows going off road a little bit.
Yeah, you can, don't get too far and don't get too crazy on it, but you can raise the car up to do that.
Inside we had the leather seating, do you?
know anybody that has ever done that.
I don't know anybody with a luxury SUV to go off roading.
Unless they're running from the police.
Well, I can think some dirt roads.
There's a few places out West Texas.
I would go down in some dirt roads that might.
When it rained, yeah, I could see it.
Maybe If I had 100,000 acres I could do that, yeah.
OK, all right.
Well, you just continue being you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't go changing.
So the front seats are heated and ventilated and the second row seats are actually heated and ventilated on the two outboards positions and the third row is a power folding rear seat that will drop down and make it a little bit easier to put cargo and stuff in the back of it.
It's got a 12.3
inch touchscreen display right up front.
It's also got a large heads up display for the driver, got lots of information in.
It Works really well, even in the daylight.
An interesting note it is a luxury vehicle, so naturally you've got a little refrigerator in the center console, of course, but you can keep your beverages cool, sure.
Yes.
What kind of beverages would those be, mike?
The kind that are in cans?
And you can also have.
I think they have cocktails in cans now.
Don't think?
Yeah, they used to.
I think they still do as a wireless charger.
You got Apple CarPlay, android Auto.
To keep everybody happy, all the kids occupied Got a mark Levenson 25 speaker audio system.
I don't even know where you would put 25 speakers inside this vehicle.
But it fills it up really nice, I'm sure.
Now up under the hood 3.4
liter twin turbo v6 Now it does produce 409 horsepower for a full-time all-wheel drive.
Now, this vehicle weighs six thousand pounds, mind you.
But it will, oh, it will, tow a big old pounds.
Oh so it's got a 10-speed automatic.
Epa says the city should be 17, the highway you should be.
Look for about 19.
So I Got right at 19 across 235 miles.
It's a very nice driving vehicle.
I will say that it feels like it's got a lot of refined power to it.
You don't really notice you've got a twin turbo under there.
It's really quiet out on the highway and I really like the way you set in the vehicle.
You can set up right.
You got a great span of view across.
All the glass that's there Makes it really nice for driving and it's comfortable driving.
The doors they are wide opening doors makes it easy to get in and out, particularly the second row seat.
If you're gonna put child seats in there, you definitely want something like this to help it out.
Now, base model price on the LX 600 is 92 thousand one hundred and sixty dollars.
Now the base trim price that we were driving is 102 thousand twenty five dollars.
Cake.
Msrps tested 108 for sixty.
Now if you look at something else in that category, you know you gotta step over to the Cadillac Escalade Sport Package.
She will have 91 thousand, oh 95.
The Lincoln Navigator has a reserve package that's at 91 thousand nine hundred and thirty five, and the newer Jeep Grand Wagoneer, now the base on that one, the base base, ninety thousand four hundred ninety five dollars.
So you step up into that full-size SUV and this is the largest SUV that that Lexus has, because the Shoot, the bigger one, the bigger boy, no, it's Toyota base and there's one, and they don't bring it to the country more the land, the land.
We're cruiser and Rosa, right, you know, bring it to the country anymore it's out.
So this is the big one.
If you want to Lexus and you want the biggest thing they got, this is going to be it and it's in that luxury and you swear that it doesn't have a rear.
It does have a rear hatch instead of that swinging door.
Yes, it lifts up.
Okay, because it used to be that that model, I believe, was the one that had the door that swung out.
So if you were in a parking spot and you want to load up some groceries, you ain't loading up that way if there's a car in front of you, because you open the door and now you're gonna hit this person's bumper there.
So you got a kind of yeah, okay, so it doesn't do that anymore.
Well, that's good, this one didn't all right.
Well, I'd know that all right, good, good.
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