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04:00
Again, Betty, again.
04:04
Christian, we've been through this.
04:05
No, Christian, we've been through this.
04:08
There isn't a vacancy.
04:09
Will you have to try Salba?
04:12
I don't know what to say to you.
04:13
There isn't a vacancy here.
04:15
I know Andy Cal's turning down.
04:18
There's no Christian.
04:20
Christian, tell him to try the Sky F1 pod.
04:24
Betty says try sky.
04:26
There's no room at the end, Christian.
04:29
There's no room at the end.
04:30
There's no room for you here.
04:33
Love to Jerry. Bye bye.
04:34
Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye.
04:36
It's like the third time he's called me this weekend.
04:40
Andy Cal says he's been chatting to everyone.
04:44
Will dissect that Lando Oscar contact into turn three.
04:47
Say well done to McLaren, who are constructors champions once again
04:51
and talking depth about Aston Martin's determination to entertain us
04:55
with their team radios.
04:56
But we've got to get straight into it because what a Singapore grumpy.
05:00
That was everybody.
05:02
We have got so much to talk about.
05:03
Here is your top 10.
05:04
George Russell dominated the races.
05:06
Fifth win of his career.
05:08
Max Verstappen took second,
05:09
despite a lot of pressure from Lando Norris,
05:12
Oscar Piastri finished fourth.
05:14
Kimi Antonelli fifth.
05:15
Charles Leclerc, sixth.
05:17
Fernando Alonso with his great radios finished in seventh.
05:20
Lewis Hamilton after a five second time penalty finished eighth.
05:23
Oli Berman took ninth.
05:25
And Carlos signed with an unbelievable drive, by the way.
05:30
He overtook five cars in 10 laps.
05:37
This is why the championship is insane.
05:39
This is how the championship looks then everybody.
05:42
Oscar Piastri leads on 336 points.
05:45
Lando Norris is second on 314.
05:49
That's 22 points behind him.
05:51
Max Verstappen is 63 points behind.
05:56
We have six races left.
05:59
This is getting very exciting.
06:01
Hi, I've not said hello yet because we had the phone call interruptions.
06:04
Hi, I'm Christian Hugill and Betty,
06:07
we're chatting later than usual
06:10
because we've both had very busy days.
06:12
You've been doing sport.
06:13
I've been running around the field.
06:14
So we thought we'd have a wine, didn't we?
06:16
Or a drink just to you.
06:17
Well, we were recording late in the evening.
06:19
Cheers, you know, end of the weekend.
06:20
We were recording late.
06:21
You know, cheers, everyone.
06:22
You've all had a nice weekend.
06:24
Cheers, I've got a beer because I'm a lad.
06:27
Producer Will's got a cup of tea
06:29
because he's not as boozy as us yet.
06:32
Looks after his health does, Will.
06:34
Yeah, well, listen, I've run around the field today.
06:37
Thank you very much.
06:38
Well, I've had to watch Aston Villa against Burnley.
06:40
So I deserve a beer.
06:44
You've got a wine, actually.
06:46
Anyway, should we talk about Formula One?
06:47
Yeah, I think we've got to start with McLaren, don't we?
06:51
Constructors World Champions, brilliant.
06:53
We'll talk about that in a second.
06:54
But let's be honest, that has been massively overshadowed
06:57
by that incident between Lando and Oscar on the opening lap.
07:00
That is what everybody is going to be talking about.
07:03
Norris getting up the inside of Piastri.
07:05
Eventually the two went wheel to wheel.
07:08
How did you see it, Christian?
07:09
How did it play out in your mind?
07:11
I'm delighted it happened, for many reasons.
07:14
So week after week on this pod.
07:18
So when I said that Lando should have done more
07:20
when Oscar messed up, I was described passionately
07:26
And then you can get called anti-Piastri.
07:29
So I'm just going to call it as I see it, right?
07:34
If Lando Norris isn't going for that move,
07:36
we can all pack up and go home.
07:39
It's pointless as doing formula one.
07:42
There was a big gap that Oscar left there
07:45
and he was tentative as hell going into that corner.
07:50
And on a slippy track where it's difficult track,
07:53
Singapore, in difficult conditions
07:55
at the start of a Grand Prix,
07:56
Lando without malice at all stuck his nose up there,
08:02
And yes, the car moving in front was slow
08:05
was max because it's the start of the race
08:07
and there was a bit of contact with max
08:08
which ricocheted him into Oscar.
08:11
The contact was slight and guess what Oscar?
08:14
Lando is fighting for a world championship here.
08:17
So I am absolutely delighted
08:19
that to go back to Will Buxton's point
08:20
in our last episode,
08:22
there was a bit of grip between the teeth
08:24
and Lando went, I'm going to go for it
08:26
because I mentioned that criticism
08:28
I got on the last episode for saying,
08:30
Lando, I've just not seen quite enough for me.
08:32
That's what I want from you, Lando.
08:37
We're in a title fight here.
08:40
If I'm going to catch up these positions
08:42
and eat a bloody well go for it
08:43
and he did, I want that aggression.
08:45
You need that aggression.
08:47
It's all very well is going after you, my love.
08:49
After you, everyone's a team here.
08:51
We're McLaren, everybody's lovely to each other.
08:53
At some point it's going to have to go
08:55
into an actual title fight and it did.
08:57
So I loved the aggression and it was fair.
09:02
I really love the aggression.
09:03
Also it's not like he sent him into the wall.
09:06
I think we'd be having a very, very different conversation
09:09
if that's what happened.
09:10
Now on the radio, Oscar was like,
09:12
that's not fair, that's not fair.
09:13
If he has to avoid another car
09:15
by crashing into his teammate,
09:17
then that is a pretty shit job of avoiding.
09:20
It's worth to say though,
09:21
he was a lot calmer about it after the race.
09:23
He said he needed to watch it back
09:24
before commenting on it.
09:25
Well he was, but he still docked the question spectacularly.
09:28
So I still don't think he was very happy.
09:31
Rachel was asking him in the pan all sorts
09:33
and he was just like, I'm not saying a word.
09:34
So I still think he was a bit annoyed.
09:38
from where he probably saw it,
09:40
how it played out in his mind
09:42
without having all of the context
09:43
of what was sort of happening
09:45
with Lando and Verstappen
09:47
and how big the gap is,
09:48
you could probably see why in the heat
09:50
at the moment you would be really frustrated
09:52
and annoyed by that.
09:54
when he does watch it back,
09:56
he's probably going to think, okay.
09:58
I hope so because the whining
10:00
of Formula One drivers on the team radio.
10:02
I'm sure it's always always,
10:03
it's always happened.
10:04
We just hear it now.
10:06
But I hope Oscar looks at it
10:08
and goes, oh, it was nothing major.
10:12
if Lando isn't at least trying that,
10:14
you're not winning the championship, mate.
10:15
We all pack up and go home.
10:17
This is motor racing.
10:18
So I was watching the F1 TV feed
10:21
with them, Julian Palmer
10:22
and David Coulthard.
10:23
You know, they've got
10:23
two very good racing drivers there.
10:24
They both said exactly the same as me.
10:27
That was my instinct was it's fine.
10:29
It's fair. It's hard.
10:31
It's the first few turns
10:33
when we're when we're battling
10:34
for a championship.
10:35
So now it was not unfair to me at all.
10:39
It's exactly what I wanted
10:42
we've quite seen enough of.
10:43
A little bit of grit.
10:45
I was pleased to see it from Lando.
10:47
Having criticized him before
10:48
and got a stick for it.
10:49
That's what I was not about guys.
10:50
That's what I want to see.
10:51
I also think at this stage
10:53
if Lando hadn't done that
10:54
then then his head is not in it.
10:59
He saw the opportunity
11:00
and he had to do it.
11:03
throughout the rest of the race
11:04
did seem a little bit different.
11:06
I haven't quite seen him.
11:08
Maybe like that before
11:10
maybe a little bit down.
11:11
I think is that fair to say
11:13
or am I probably overthinking that?
11:14
Do you think it affected him?
11:16
I don't think you are overthinking it.
11:17
I was really impressed.
11:19
is race engineer is a classy operator anyway.
11:21
He's a fascinating amazing man
11:23
who's competed in other sports
11:25
and Tom was brilliant in.
11:27
Tom doesn't have to do this a lot.
11:29
But Tom was going, OK,
11:31
we control what we can control.
11:34
And Oscar went back again
11:35
and said, yeah, but that wasn't fair.
11:41
I can absolutely understand Oscar
11:43
being a bit not because
11:44
your teammates made contact with you.
11:47
But what we saw from Oscar
11:49
was a bit of a retaliation.
11:53
was maybe a bit stronger
11:55
than we've seen before.
11:57
And he's it was the
11:58
now it's only slight.
12:00
This isn't big criticism.
12:01
I'm giving him here.
12:03
It was the first time
12:04
that maybe we started to see.
12:07
You know, because obviously we saw
12:10
that the heat of the battle
12:11
in the mistakes he made in Baku, right?
12:13
He made big, big mistakes.
12:15
He had an awful weekend.
12:16
But in terms of his demeanor,
12:18
this was maybe the most obvious
12:20
example of the heat of battle
12:21
getting him to him a little bit.
12:24
And I wasn't that impressed by it.
12:26
His Oscar strength is keep calm.
12:31
Do what I can do and move on.
12:33
And he wasn't anything dramatic,
12:34
but he didn't seem quite as able
12:36
to do that after that incident.
12:38
And even his demeanor later on
12:41
it was a bit grumpy teenager.
12:45
Yeah, he told us clean his room.
12:48
It was just a bit grumpy.
12:49
There was one point where
12:53
like what do you think here
12:54
or what do you want to do here?
12:55
I can't remember the context of it.
12:57
And Oscar was like,
12:59
I just don't know you guys say
13:01
and it's just he's never been
13:04
I want to say at this point,
13:06
this is a guy in only his third
13:09
season in Formula One
13:11
who has raced an unbelievable
13:14
season and leads the World Championship
13:17
because he is a phenomenal talent
13:20
doing an amazing job.
13:23
I'm so I'm so impressed by him.
13:25
I'm such a fan of him.
13:29
So I don't want to come down
13:32
but I felt to go through it
13:36
He's been too sensitive
13:37
into those first turns there,
13:39
too, too sensitive.
13:41
Lando's taken advantage of it.
13:43
Yes, there was a bit of contact,
13:46
And then his response to it.
13:48
We see this from Max sometimes.
13:49
So we see it from the best,
13:52
Stop getting grumpy.
13:53
Stop looking for excuses.
13:56
Focus on what you can do.
13:57
And it's the third weekend in a row
14:01
And now here we are in Singapore
14:07
certainly because it wasn't the case
14:08
in qualifying in the race,
14:09
Lando has looked like
14:11
I don't care which of them
14:13
wins the World Championship.
14:15
I just want it to be close.
14:18
I want a title battle.
14:19
And just to just to finish
14:21
what we're seeing here,
14:23
for the title battle
14:24
because let's be honest
14:25
over the course of the first
14:26
two-thirds of the season,
14:28
more often than not,
14:29
had the pace advantage.
14:31
three races in a row now.
14:32
Lando is coming right back into it
14:34
with his pace in this championship.
14:36
When I look at Oscar,
14:38
I think he's had his best races
14:41
when he's been in the lead
14:43
and he's just controlling the race.
14:45
And that's what he's really good at.
14:47
He's really good at controlling the race.
14:50
He knows exactly what he's doing.
14:51
He can stay really calm
14:52
under that pressure.
14:54
But he's in control.
14:58
it's not as smooth sailing for him.
14:59
And this is probably a really obvious thing to say
15:01
because it would be like this for anybody.
15:02
But when he's further back,
15:04
do you know what I mean?
15:05
And it's maybe just that experience of,
15:09
And we've seen evidence of that.
15:11
maybe we have to go back to the fact
15:13
that he has not got the years of racing experience
15:15
of the people he's battling
15:16
for this championship.
15:17
Max Verstapp and Yolanda Norris.
15:19
So it's fair enough.
15:20
Oscar's been phenomenal this season.
15:22
Bloody love the man.
15:23
Just like I love Lando.
15:24
And I'm not sitting on the fence here.
15:26
I just want it to be close between them.
15:28
But that was not like Oscar Piastri's best grand prix
15:33
because I feel like he got in his own head a little bit.
15:36
Feel like he was over cautious at the start of the race.
15:39
I think he overreacted
15:40
to the Lando move a little bit.
15:42
I mean, I would overreact to that.
15:44
Yeah, it's understandable.
15:45
Listen, it's understandable.
15:47
his overall weekend,
15:50
I said in the preview show,
15:51
this is the biggest weekend of Oscar's career
15:55
because of how bad Baku was.
15:58
And because, again, to go back to Italy,
16:00
Lando had had the advantage.
16:01
He broadly responded really well.
16:04
You know, he outqualified Lando.
16:07
The pre-practice sessions were messy anyway.
16:10
This is a McLaren that does not seem to have
16:13
an overall pace advantage anymore.
16:15
I wonder if they've moved some development into next season
16:18
because that sheer pace advantage
16:20
just doesn't seem to be there.
16:22
The evidence, the last couple of grand prix.
16:23
It'll be interesting to see how that plays out
16:25
for the rest of the grand prix.
16:28
this is not a bad weekend for Oscar.
16:30
But if I was in the Oscar Piatri camp,
16:33
I'd be reminding him of his own strengths.
16:36
Oscar, your own strengths are
16:39
when you as a driver just keep cool.
16:44
And I just didn't like the sort of clinging
16:46
onto that Lando incident today.
16:47
When he came back on the radio,
16:49
just move on from it.
16:50
Tom has been really clear.
16:51
We'll have the opportunity to talk about it afterwards.
16:54
And this is not the first time this season
16:58
we've seen Oscar be a little bit cautious
17:01
on the opening few turns.
17:02
Cast your mind back to Imola.
17:04
He was definitely caught napping by Max Verstappen.
17:07
Granted, it was an amazing Max move.
17:09
I forgot about that.
17:11
I'm glad you reminded me of that.
17:12
Yeah, and Max got him
17:15
in order to take the lead
17:16
and went on to win the grand prix.
17:17
So a bit over cautious at the start of the grand prix.
17:21
Made a bit too much of it.
17:22
Got in his head a little bit.
17:24
I want Oscar to just remember
17:27
But listen, overall, actually,
17:30
there's a lot to praise both McLaren drivers
17:34
because they've both had solid weekends.
17:37
Lando deserves great credit
17:39
for making up the places.
17:40
Oscar has bounce back
17:41
from an absolute shocker in Baku
17:42
and it wasn't an absolute shocker.
17:45
You know, a lot to be positive about for that.
17:47
And actually on another track,
17:49
Lando would have overtaken Max as well.
17:53
It's so difficult to overtake in Singapore.
17:56
Yeah, and it's just it's difficult to overtake.
17:57
It's not my favorite grand prix
17:58
of the season Singapore
17:59
because it's really difficult to overtake.
18:01
So it's not anyone,
18:02
it's apart from John Frostles now to be honest.
18:04
So listen, not a horrific weekend for McLaren,
18:08
but I was just pleased to see
18:09
a bit of spice between them
18:10
because actually I think it's inevitable.
18:12
It's a championship battle.
18:14
do you think the fight between these two
18:16
is going to be a bit different going forward now?
18:19
I'll be really interested to see
18:22
because so we're recording this in the evening.
18:24
The only interviews with the drivers
18:25
we've seen have been in the pen
18:27
with Rachel Brooks on Sky
18:29
and on the Jensenbottom podium interviews.
18:31
They wouldn't go into it for obvious reasons.
18:34
I'll be really interested
18:35
come probably media day in Austin
18:38
when we get Oscars viewing it.
18:40
What I want from Oscar is to go.
18:41
Yeah, listen, the gap was there.
18:42
The contact was unfortunate.
18:46
And but and then I don't think
18:47
there will be that much of a change.
18:49
But the flip side to what I'm just saying is
18:51
there's only six races left now.
18:53
It did feel like we came back from the summer break
18:55
and it was like, oh, there's still loads of races left.
18:57
When I was preparing for this episode,
18:59
I was like, Christ, only six left, 22 points.
19:01
That's not a big gap.
19:03
No, Max would have to be a miracle
19:06
because he's got sprint races as well.
19:08
Max, it would be a miracle.
19:10
It's not impossible.
19:11
The fact that he didn't take a big chunk out of them
19:13
this weekend makes it even less likely,
19:15
but still let's imagine it's a Lando Oscar thing.
19:20
it's going to be a bit different, Betty,
19:22
because the stakes are getting higher
19:24
and higher every single race.
19:27
And that's I think we've seen that a bit from Oscar.
19:28
I think we've seen that bit.
19:30
That and also now they've won the constructors.
19:33
Maybe it's like, OK, well now now you can battle it out
19:36
because we've won the constructors.
19:40
I mean, that's yes.
19:42
You're absolutely right, Betty,
19:43
but that's sort of always been the case
19:45
because we've always known they're going to win it
19:46
because they just haven't got any competition for it.
19:49
But yeah, it was it was a fascinating move.
19:52
And for me, it was good, hard, fair racing,
19:56
a little bit of contact sometimes.
19:58
There's a reason we have racing incidents.
20:00
If you're an Oscar fan,
20:01
you're going to be saying, oh, it's outrageous.
20:03
Lando made contact.
20:05
If you're a Lando fan,
20:06
you're going to be saying he had to go for that move.
20:09
Me calling it as I said, don't care who wins.
20:11
I think it was a racing incident.
20:12
I think Lando's got to go for it.
20:13
I think it's fair square.
20:15
Yes, I don't think I haven't.
20:17
I haven't heard or listen to anybody disagree with you there.
20:22
Like any former drivers as of yet, as I say,
20:26
haven't haven't been able to be across everything,
20:28
but I haven't really seen anyone present
20:30
a really strong argument that disagrees with you.
20:34
Don't know if Zach Brown did as much.
20:36
It is worth saying, though,
20:37
that he had a brilliant evening anyway,
20:39
because congratulations to McLaren.
20:41
They are constructors, world champions.
20:44
We knew that that's singular at some point, didn't we?
20:46
It's their 10th overall, which is pretty incredible.
20:50
They've been in a class of their own this season, haven't they?
20:53
It used to feel like if you were going to make big strides
20:56
in Formula One, you would do it over the winter.
20:59
What McLaren have done is really,
21:02
I wouldn't say change the game,
21:03
but maybe change the game in the terms of rates
21:06
of mid-season development.
21:08
We're sat here, Betty, having this conversation in 2025.
21:10
It's our third season of the Fast and the Curious.
21:13
I can still remember our first ever race debrief.
21:17
Yeah, I can, because it was Bahrain,
21:20
and we'd done a lot with McLaren in the build-up,
21:24
And McLaren were dreadful, and it was like,
21:28
and we'd done all this stuff with Oscar,
21:29
and it was all like, oh, you know,
21:31
and they've got this new and exciting driver lineup.
21:33
We were like, we've backed the wrong horse here, lads.
21:36
What have we got on with McLaren?
21:39
Like, the way that, and here we are in 2025,
21:44
and they have turned it round so spectacular
21:49
over the course of the 23, 24, and now 25 season,
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22:07
and has just improved in every single possible area.
22:13
It is an achievement in their turnaround
22:18
that stacks up to anything in Formula One history.
22:21
It is remarkable to have,
22:24
to McLaren have been nowhere for years.
22:27
It's been Red Bull.
22:28
It's been Mercedes.
22:30
Ferrari have been, you know,
22:32
the ones that you think are they going to battle them.
22:34
McLaren have been nowhere.
22:36
And they have, over the course of the last two years,
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22:41
we are back as major forces in this sport,
22:46
like they were when I was growing up,
22:48
Betty watching Michael Schumacher v.
22:50
Mickahacken, and it's remarkable.
22:52
Zach Brown has come in to a team
22:55
that barely had sponsors on the card
22:58
that looked a shell of a Formula One team
23:01
that had lost drivers like Alonso and Button,
23:04
and a single-handedly,
23:06
give it not single-handedly,
23:07
that's unfair, but he's been the one
23:09
that's driven it into having an identity in the papaya,
23:12
attracting the sponsorship,
23:14
galvanizing the team,
23:16
putting people like Andrea Stella
23:18
and Randy Singh in leadership positions.
23:21
Yeah, we love Randy.
23:22
You know, it is remarkable.
23:24
They have done an amazing job.
23:26
And yes, we give them a bit of stick
23:29
for maybe over protecting the drivers in their title fight.
23:34
But look back to Hamilton Rosberg,
23:37
Ricardo Verstappen.
23:40
I could go back to all of these flashpoint moments
23:43
with two drivers that could win races.
23:46
Actually, history tells us McLaren have handled it bloody well
23:49
and that's why they've won Constructors' Championships
23:51
and all right, Red Bull have been up there,
23:53
but they've not been able to keep two cars in contention
23:57
They have been sensational.
23:59
Congratulations, McLaren.
24:01
It's a great point, actually,
24:02
because a lot of people sort of moan and discuss
24:05
about the way that McLaren are handling it
24:07
and papaya rules and all of this stuff.
24:09
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24:11
Maybe this is actually the best for their two drivers
24:14
and they know their drivers better than anyone else.
24:16
And I mean, they've won another Constructors title,
24:21
so it's clearly working.
24:22
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Let's talk about George Russell then.
28:01
It was a perfect race, wasn't it?
28:04
His fifth win of his career.
28:06
I'm so happy for him.
28:08
He did such a good job.
28:09
He was brilliant out there this weekend.
28:11
How impressed are you with him at the moment?
28:16
I think he might win the world championship next season.
28:24
And by the way, we don't know.
28:25
This is wild speculation.
28:27
But the noises coming out of Mercedes for next season are good.
28:30
The point I'm making here is if they are good,
28:33
they've got a title fighter there.
28:36
It just doesn't often feel like George Russell
28:40
leaves performance on the table.
28:43
And obviously the racers like this
28:46
will get the headlines because he's won the Grand Prix.
28:50
But the fact is Red Bull were really struggling
28:53
with their setup this weekend.
28:56
They admit themselves.
28:57
Our car struggles with Singapore.
28:59
Look at how much Yuki struggled this weekend.
29:01
Max, because he's...
29:02
Max managed to drag it into second
29:04
whilst visibly fighting it all weekend.
29:07
By the way, Max lapping Yuki.
29:09
We need to talk about that later.
29:10
Yeah, we'll go on to that in a minute.
29:11
But it summarises the point I'm making.
29:13
We've got McLaren who worked the overall quickest package.
29:16
Ferrari or just Ferrari are not there.
29:18
So it is a weekend where Mercedes have a shot here.
29:24
But whether they've got a shot...
29:25
If they should be getting third, George puts it third.
29:29
If they should be winning...
29:30
Have a chance of winning the race,
29:32
George tends to take the chance to win the race.
29:35
It was only a couple of years ago
29:36
where George was making loads of mistakes.
29:39
I think, you know, go back to 23, 22.
29:42
You know, we'd see George quite crashy.
29:44
I think one of them was in Singapore.
29:46
We don't really see that from George Russell anymore.
29:49
He's matured as a driver.
29:51
He's had a very slow burner of a career.
29:52
You know, he had to sit at Williams for three years
29:54
when they were really uncompetitive.
29:55
Then he moved to Mercedes
29:57
and they've not had a car capable of fighting for titles
30:02
He stacked up so well against Lewis Hamilton.
30:05
There was only one season together
30:07
where Lewis comprehensively beat George.
30:10
And last season George was comfortably
30:11
the better driver of the two.
30:14
George, I could sit here and talk about
30:15
how good George was this weekend
30:16
because he was perfect.
30:17
He had an amazing qualifying session.
30:19
He executed it in the race brilliantly.
30:21
all of these Formula One drivers are superheroes.
30:23
Just look how knackered they were
30:24
at the end of this Grand Prix.
30:25
If you're going to have a good Grand Prix,
30:27
Singapore's the one to do it
30:28
because it is such a physical mental test
30:31
of these incredible athletes
30:33
that we are so lucky to watch over weekend.
30:35
This Singapore sums that up better than any.
30:38
So if you win that race,
30:39
you've had an amazing weekend.
30:41
But what the point I'm trying to raise
30:42
is this shouldn't be a surprise
30:44
because if George has half a chance
30:46
to be there or thereabouts,
30:47
he is, he's ready to fight
30:49
for a Formula One World Championship.
30:51
To me, George Russell is such an underrated driver.
30:55
People do not talk about him enough.
30:57
They do not talk about him enough.
30:58
Until he wins a race,
31:00
then maybe he gets some of the headlines.
31:02
But still like he is brilliant.
31:05
And since Lewis Hamilton left Mercedes,
31:08
he has stepped up into that role
31:10
in Mercedes leading the team,
31:12
which a lot of people questioned
31:13
whether or not he could do, didn't they?
31:15
Remember, a lot of people were like,
31:17
Mercedes have got Kimi Antonelli coming through,
31:20
Is George Russell going to be able to step up in that role?
31:22
And he has, and he's done a brilliant job.
31:26
He still hasn't signed a new contract.
31:29
No, I get a lot of DMs about this.
31:31
Don't worry, George Russell fans,
31:34
George Russell will be a Mercedes driving next year
31:36
and I shall tell you for why.
31:37
They've neither got another option.
31:40
If you look at the driver market,
31:42
it's not like Mercedes,
31:43
even if they wanted to,
31:44
which they don't could come in and go,
31:48
okay, in that case,
31:49
you come in and replace him.
31:50
It's not like there's a, I don't know,
31:53
Lewis Hamilton, Max Verstappen,
31:54
is there without a contract.
31:56
That's not happening.
31:58
George hasn't got anywhere else to go.
31:59
It's not like George, you know,
32:01
George knows the rumors
32:02
about Mercedes engine package for 2026
32:06
and that being a place where you want to be,
32:07
George isn't going to go anywhere else.
32:09
But I think because both sides know
32:10
it's going to happen eventually,
32:11
I think you're probably in a situation
32:13
where I don't know,
32:14
it might be win bonuses,
32:15
it might be commercial time
32:17
in terms of time doing interviews
32:19
and things and working with sponsors.
32:21
Whatever, there's some details
32:22
I've not flashed about.
32:23
I would be astonished
32:26
if George Russell isn't at Mercedes
32:27
next year and the biggest part
32:29
of that is Betty because Toto Wolff
32:31
isn't stupid either.
32:33
he knows that this guy is capable
32:35
of leading his team.
32:36
I, George has been great this year.
32:39
George has had such a good year
32:43
when he was announced
32:45
that he was taking over Valtteri
32:46
because I love Valtteri Bottas
32:47
but you knew Valtteri
32:49
wasn't going to beat Lewis.
32:52
coming into the 2022 season
32:57
and also George could fight Lewis
33:00
for a title as well as Lewis
33:02
fighting Max for a title
33:03
and it was all going to be so exciting
33:04
that you could see George
33:05
fighting for a title.
33:06
We've been robbed of that.
33:08
That's a storyline we've been robbed of
33:09
so I so hope Mercedes
33:11
are up there because I want to see George
33:15
with Lando, with Oscar, with Max.
33:18
Who knows with Charlotte and Lewis
33:19
because he's in that bracket.
33:21
Your driver's capable
33:23
of fighting for championships.
33:24
He's right up there.
33:25
I also love that he's
33:28
unapologetically not very cool.
33:31
I don't even know if he realizes
33:33
he's not very cool.
33:34
I'll be honest with you.
33:35
I don't think he realizes
33:36
he's quite what he is
33:40
Yeah, he I'm a I have always been
33:43
a George Russell fan.
33:44
The first Formula One driver
33:46
I ever interviewed before
33:47
he was a Formula One driver
33:48
he just been announced at Williams
33:50
back back in the day
33:51
when this was old George Russell.
33:52
So yeah, I'm a big fan of George.
33:55
I think he's I think
33:56
he's had a great weekend,
33:58
and he'll be at Mercedes
33:59
next year. Don't worry about it guys.
34:01
I think it's sad that
34:02
he didn't do the Abadabadu
34:03
when he won because
34:04
that's iconic George Russell
34:06
Also, what I love about this as well
34:09
is that obviously F1 Christian
34:11
is such a technical sport, isn't it?
34:12
They use so much data
34:13
they analyze everything
34:15
and but afterwards George was like
34:18
this this performance was so good.
34:20
I don't know where this performance came from.
34:22
He didn't expect it at all.
34:23
I mentioned this at the start.
34:24
I think it's a lot to do with the fact that
34:26
I don't think the Mercedes
34:28
is overly uncomfortable in Singapore
34:31
but I think the Red Bull really is
34:33
and I think the Claren's pace has dropped a bit
34:35
and therefore it sort of leaves the opportunity
34:37
Mercedes has been like
34:38
yeah, we're pretty much as we are.
34:39
I think I could be completely wrong
34:41
with that assessment
34:42
but you know Mercedes are
34:44
that's where they are this season.
34:45
This being their second win
34:47
they're ahead of Ferrari pace wise
34:50
they're about such tracks
34:52
which suit their car better
34:54
you could you could
34:55
it's a half an hour explanation
34:57
as to why certain cars
34:59
suit certain circuits
35:00
don't do that because I don't have time for that.
35:02
No, it's late, but you know
35:04
characteristics of the particular sort of tarmac
35:07
used on the circuit
35:10
configuration of fast slow corners
35:14
all of this factors in
35:16
to whether a car suits a particular track
35:19
and Mercedes their pace is such that they're
35:22
just a bit behind Max in the Red Bull
35:27
so that if either of those are the bad day
35:28
they're going to pick up the odd win
35:29
they're going to pick up podiums
35:30
that's just where they are this season
35:31
what I'm just hoping for next year
35:32
no be a step ahead of that
35:34
Solid weekend for Kimi Antonelli as well
35:37
Yeah, we remember coming back off the summer break
35:41
this was one of the big talking points
35:44
he's really struggled since he got the podium
35:49
he's just not looked like a Mercedes number two driver
35:52
like he did at the stars of the season
35:54
he's really turned that around
35:56
and I think that's so impressive
35:57
and the fact he overtook the Ferraris today
36:00
really solid weekend
36:01
much better from Kimi Antonelli
36:03
if he continues this form to the end of the season
36:05
he's going into a second season in Formula One
36:08
in a really strong place
36:09
and just remember the sort of step up we had
36:11
with Oscar Piastri from season one to season two
36:15
if Kimi ends this season like he's done this year
36:17
looking pretty good
36:18
and then takes a step up over the next year
36:20
all is well for Kimi Antonelli
36:22
I'm really impressed with the way he turned it around
36:24
there's a really another really solid weekend from him
36:28
all is well for Kimi Antonelli
36:31
we've had so many nice comments Christian
36:34
from our last episode with Will Buxton
36:37
yeah people love Will Buxton
36:39
thank you so much for all the lovely comments about the episode
36:41
thank you to Will for coming on
36:43
and lots of people enjoyed us paying tribute to Roscoe
36:46
there was one YouTube comment I saw
36:48
that was like first time I've tuned into this channel
36:50
five minutes of talking about dogs
36:54
if you don't like dog chat this podcast isn't for you
36:56
to be honest we chat about everything and anything
37:00
so it just happens that you tuned in
37:03
and we were talking about Roscoe okay
37:04
yeah I'm fine and listen unapologetically
37:07
Roscoe was a legend
37:09
of course it was a man
37:10
we are we are a big you know big fans of dogs
37:13
Roscoe was the world's most famous dog
37:15
so we also ask for your pet related F1 stories
37:19
boy did we get them
37:20
of course we got the proof that most of our listeners love it
37:22
because my god the inbox is like they were
37:24
I hope that guy is not listening
37:27
mr underscore Dave underscore hill
37:28
I have a very energetic cock a spaniel called one Pablo
37:32
after one Pablo Montoya
37:36
this is such niche levels of F1 drivers
37:40
that's why it's brilliant
37:41
I love a niche name
37:42
also it's brilliant because this guy is in the park
37:47
you'd have to you'd have to call it Pablo
37:52
it still is still amazing to be shouting in the park
37:58
named Russell after George
38:00
and he likes a good pose too
38:01
if you're watching on YouTube
38:03
here is a Russell the Westie
38:07
oh he does love a pose doesn't he
38:09
he is standing proud as punch
38:12
in a green field on a sunny day
38:15
there's Russell the Westie
38:19
and a tools tip before you from producer will
38:24
first pet guinea pig
38:27
after Michael Schumacher
38:29
I just don't know why a guinea pig called Michael
38:31
feels but what's your guinea pig's name?
38:36
Stuart McDonald got in touch
38:38
he said that they've got two year old Yorkie
38:40
called Wolfie after Toto Wolf
38:43
Wolfie looks so cute
38:47
Wolfie's got for those listening
38:49
like a hair bubble in the middle
38:52
it's the least Toto Wolf like dog in the world
38:55
that that is not what I pictured in my head
38:58
when you say a dog's called
39:00
what called after Toto Wolf
39:04
says my son is too goldfish
39:06
he is actually a Lewis fan
39:08
why if he's a Lewis fan
39:09
why is he called them Yuki Max?
39:11
because Yuki's a great name for a fish
39:13
also I think Max will end up eating Yuki
39:16
Goldfish do that don't know
39:17
are we back to f1 chat now or is this
39:24
I didn't say that right
39:25
said Bruce McKitton
39:26
after the McLaren team
39:27
found Bruce McLaren
39:32
after Bruce McLaren
39:36
we've got a picture of what appears to be Bruce McKitton
39:38
asleep in what appears to be a bucket
39:42
you sleep way up Bruce
39:43
cats will sleep anywhere
39:45
but the best one of these
39:47
goes to Natalie fashion
39:49
so this is Lando the Labrador
39:53
and here is his reaction
39:55
to Lando winning the British Grand Prix
39:57
for those listening to us Lando the Labrador
40:00
is sat in front of the telly
40:02
as Lando the F1 driver
40:05
having won the Grand Prix
40:08
just watch and listen to this
40:24
that that is incredible
40:36
but the best one of these
40:39
we've tried to get hold of this person
40:42
our third wheel on this podcast
40:44
who is not on this week
40:50
plugging his new book
40:51
he's also interviewed
40:52
Taylor Swift this week
40:55
Greg sends a message to the group
40:59
on one of his sort of
41:01
you know he's doing these shows
41:03
and he's obviously been
41:05
yeah he's been meeting
41:06
Fast and Curious fans
41:07
so hello if you've been
41:09
and what did we learn from Greg
41:14
that has a dog called Betty
41:20
that didn't want to be arrogant
41:21
and just assume now
41:22
somebody who listens to this podcast
41:24
is such a fan of this podcast
41:26
that they have named their dog
41:30
can we please get this person on the podcast
41:32
and I don't think Greg
41:34
oh hang on is this Claire
41:37
Will I'm going to send you these pictures
41:39
and we can flash them off on the screen
41:46
white fluffy looking dog
41:50
there you go Claire
41:52
shout out to Claire and Betty
41:54
absolutely wonderful
41:56
Betty how do you feel
41:57
let's just get your analysis on this
41:58
how do you feel that
41:59
you've got a dog named after you
42:03
I was honestly astounded
42:09
is it solid dog name I'd say
42:12
I think you know this about me
42:13
I'm not a jealous type
42:16
I am actually feeling
42:18
pages of jealousy here
42:19
for the fact that you've got a pet named after you
42:23
I think that's amazing
42:26
I'm buzzing to be fair
42:27
thank you very much Claire
42:30
just if anyone was watching our
42:32
I think it was two episodes ago
42:35
ended up coming on the screen
42:38
I was at Aston Villa Bernie
42:41
only a few people are going to appreciate it
42:42
and the Premier League
42:44
and I was stood in the tunnel
42:46
and all the players were walking out
42:48
ready to get you know
42:50
to start the football match
42:51
John McGinn walks past me
42:53
and I've interviewed him a couple of times
42:55
but I didn't really think he knew
42:58
I didn't think he'd recognise me
43:00
I mean he'd recognise me
43:01
and let's just say at this point
43:02
your dog is named after
43:03
the Premier League footballer John McGinn
43:05
John McGinn clocks me
43:12
John McGinn knows who McGinn is
43:15
he knows who McGinn is
43:17
I was like oh my god
43:19
is this a bit mortifying
43:20
does he think I'm like
43:22
a massive Aston Villa fan
43:24
like bit of a weirdo
43:27
and I panicked and I went
43:30
John McGinn's people come on the podcast
43:32
please I would absolutely love this
43:38
you don't like this
43:39
the podcast isn't for you
43:40
that was amazing dog content
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we will go back to Formula One stuff
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and we'll do Betty's Radio Radar
43:45
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We're going back to debriefing
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having been a bit distracted
45:55
We mentioned at the start
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that we've been out doing stuff today.
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And Betty rings me when she's on the way back
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from the aforementioned Premier League football match
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and I'm on the way back
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from running around a field.
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have you seen the result?
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but I've not seen anything else.
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So I'm going to go watch it
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before we do the podcast.
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And Betty just goes
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with the most excited tone in her voice.
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Radio radar is amazing
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because of Aston Martin.
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She was so excited.
46:22
before we get to Aston,
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in practice because of Radio Radar.
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if you're new to the podcast,
46:31
we always pick our favorite bits of radio.
46:32
This normally is from the race,
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but practice outstanding from Oscar Piatri here.
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I think Oscar Piatri might have done
46:39
the best radio radar
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out of the whole season.
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I think he might win the award.
46:43
In practice, he said,
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I was going to say the knob is quite stiff,
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but didn't think that would be appropriate for TV.
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you knew exactly what you were doing.
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When you said that,
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you knew exactly what you were doing.
46:57
He definitely had a smile on his face.
46:59
Absolutely stunning.
47:01
And then Aston were just incredible
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you pointed it out to me on the phone.
47:07
Betty told me about this.
47:09
I got attacked in it.
47:10
People attacking me in all of these,
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you need to listen to Alonzo's Radio Radar.
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This feature is getting a mind of its own, isn't it?
47:21
if you speak to me every lap,
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I'll disconnect the radio.
47:24
Absolutely wonderful.
47:25
No, but the engineer was just going,
47:29
Surely you've got...
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They've been working together ages.
47:32
Surely they've got this down by now
47:33
as to how much he wants that.
47:35
Surely he either gets a lap countdown
47:39
then there was Fernando as well
47:41
when he was battling with Isaac.
47:45
shout out to the hero of the weekend.
47:47
Oh, Fernando, come on.
47:49
It's literally what you'd have done.
47:52
back to when Alonzo said,
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if you speak to me every lap,
47:55
I will disconnect the radio.
47:56
He wasn't even saying that
47:58
It was so incredibly dead plant.
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if you speak to me every lap,
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I will disconnect the radio.
48:04
And then I forgot to write it down.
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But the lance stroll one as well,
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which was just made funnier by his accent.
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Oh, did you miss this?
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So I can't remember who it was.
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I'm sorry, I forgot to write it down.
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But somebody was in front of Lance
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and they said his tires.
48:22
I don't even forget the compound.
48:24
But I say this when you're off.
48:25
I'm absolutely crap at doing this feature.
48:27
But Lance was trying to overtake a Formula One car.
48:31
They went so and so in front
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on the so and so tires is struggling.
48:35
And Lance just went back
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in such a loud Canadian way.
48:39
yeah, well my medium tires
48:40
feel like they're shard as well.
48:45
Oh, Lance is never a nice time.
48:50
I mentioned I was watching the F1 TV stuff.
48:52
So I didn't see this.
48:53
But apparently Martin Bundle interviewed.
48:56
This is the best grid walk interview
48:59
that I've seen this season.
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Martin Brundle went up to Lewis Capaldi
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or who he thought was Lewis Capaldi.
49:06
It was actually Lewis Capaldi's brother
49:08
and goes, all right, Lewis,
49:10
blah, blah, blah, blah.
49:11
Lewis Capaldi's brother goes,
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oh, I'm actually Lewis Capaldi's brother.
49:14
Lewis Capaldi has stood right behind his brother
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and it's just like, hi.
49:18
It was just absolutely classic.
49:23
I've severely sympathized in those situations
49:26
I think I've been on the grid
49:27
before a race like four times.
49:30
And what appears so obvious
49:32
on the telly is just not obvious.
49:34
So I have every sympathy there.
49:37
They do look quite similar.
49:39
I didn't see this year.
49:41
But Lewis Capaldi was behind also.
49:43
Why is Lewis Capaldi always sweaty?
49:45
I mean, I know it was hot there,
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but every time I see him, he's sweaty.
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Fast curious part if you can answer that one.
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There's many things I can answer questions on in this podcast.
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That's not one of them, Betty.
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I've got nothing for you. I'm sorry.
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I really like Lewis Capaldi.
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Anyway, should we dive into your cubby hole?
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Because I think there's things that I probably have missed
50:01
on this race that you can enlighten me on.
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I just want to highlight a few things.
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Ollie Bearman had a really, really good weekend.
50:09
His best qualifying of the season, I think,
50:11
in P, and then a P9 finish.
50:14
He also put in an absolutely brilliant move at one point.
50:17
I think it was Alex Albonge during the race.
50:19
Ollie Bearman was absolutely fantastic.
50:21
Also, we've just been laughing at his sassy radio,
50:24
but Fernando Alonso.
50:26
That Aston Martin doesn't look competitive.
50:28
They are struggling.
50:30
They are looking to the new rule changes now.
50:33
Fernando dragging that, granted after a Lewis
50:35
five-second time penalty.
50:37
Fernando dragging that to seventh.
50:39
That was a real weekend of Fernando
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reminding as he's still in this sport.
50:43
And I'm excited to see what he could do
50:45
at the age he's at, if this car got next year.
50:48
And then also, Carlos Sainz,
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who for obviously a second weekend in a row,
50:52
granted it was a podium last weekend now, it's P10.
50:55
But almost as impressive, actually.
50:57
Williams are very good at this.
50:59
They've done this with Alex Albon in the past
51:01
and going, we will pit approximately nine seconds
51:05
before the checkered flag and just making it work.
51:08
And we've seen Alex be heroic in his ability
51:10
to do this in the past.
51:12
This time it was Carlos turn.
51:14
So starting from P18, some brilliant overtaking.
51:16
Excellent strategy from Williams.
51:19
And it's just, because obviously they got thrown out
51:21
qualifying for technical infringement,
51:23
which is all very unfortunate when things like that happens.
51:26
So to grab a point out of that,
51:28
it's just nice that it's coming together
51:30
for Carlos at Williams.
51:34
I'm loving the Carlos success so far.
51:36
I think it's brilliant.
51:38
But I said this last time with Greg
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on the last debrief petty, I always thought it was going to come.
51:42
Like I always had no doubt it was going to come.
51:44
It just seems to be all coming together now.
51:46
So yeah, absolutely lovely stuff.
51:48
And also on my radio radar,
51:50
another thing that I was delighted
51:52
lit up my DMs over the weekend.
51:54
It was lovely because I've been doing other work this weekend,
51:56
which I'll talk about at some point on this podcast.
51:58
But so I've been a bit out of it,
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like not quite as dialed in as I would normally be
52:04
because I've ironically been doing other formula one work.
52:07
But what I've loved is our listeners
52:09
sort of keeping us honest and being like,
52:11
have you seen this?
52:12
And my phone lit up when Leah Block
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won her first F1 Academy race on Saturday.
52:18
Absolutely amazing.
52:20
So we're so pleased for Leah, who's just,
52:22
she is getting better and better and better.
52:25
Like her sheer pace in that series.
52:28
You know, identical cars.
52:30
We've spoken on this podcast before
52:32
about the challenges of going from different race series
52:34
like Leah's done outstanding from Leah Block
52:36
this weekend, really brilliant.
52:38
If you want to know a little bit more about Leah Block,
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we've got her on this podcast quite a few times.
52:42
I interviewed her, it might have been last year.
52:44
You interviewed her very, very recently.
52:46
So just have a scroll back, especially on YouTube
52:48
and go and check it out because she's brilliant.
52:50
Yeah, the last time we had her on.
52:52
So we had her on when she had her first podium,
52:54
but it was for like two minutes.
52:56
But then the last time we had her on
52:58
was a bit more of an in-depth chat.
53:00
And yeah, it's such an interesting story,
53:03
and such an impressive thing to have gone from rally
53:05
to sort of tarmac racing like she's done.
53:07
So you're right, Bessie, absolutely brilliant.
53:09
Anyway, I've finished my glass of wine,
53:11
so we'll finish this episode.
53:13
Next up, yeah, so we're back to preview
53:18
It's not 100% confirmed, so I won't say yet,
53:20
but we think we've got an exciting guest on,
53:22
who I love, who I'm excited to bring on to the podcast.
53:24
So we'll preview Austin and then we'll debrief Austin
53:27
and for the debrief, I'll be there, which is always fun.
53:29
No, it's really exciting.
53:31
Well, for you, it'll be late night again, like this one.
53:34
You'll be doing late night podding.
53:35
I'll be doing mid-afternoon podding.
53:37
And I bloody love Austin.
53:39
It's brilliant, so I'm excited to talk to you from Austin.
53:42
Brilliant, I'm very much looking forward to it.
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Betty's ringing again.
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I'm not even going to answer it.
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It's just, it's speaking of beggy.
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It's embarrassing at this point.
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