Clean Cars & Dirty Truths

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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, America. You're listening Let's Talk Cars Radio on

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with Camrachaos and AVB. Hey. As I always tell you, guys,

it is a great day for a radio show. Hopefully

it's a great day for a car show where you're at your weather's holding out like normal. Uh, we've had

some mixed weathers around here lately, as normal as if you guys live in hamm Rose area, all you have to do is just blink and the weather will change, for sure.

Speaker 3: But it is there's nothing normal about it.

Speaker 2: It has been hot and then we've had rain, and then it's been hot.

Speaker 3: And we had hail.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know I text you, He's like, hey, move your car because of the hail. I was like,

I literally I when they told me it was hailing where they were at, I was like, I go outside and put everything in the mega garage and I looked outside and I went, I think it's gonna go on. Bias, Well,

we got the rain. I didn't get the hail, so

but uh yeah I didn't. I didn't have to have

the hail. Apparently they got the hail. So Nathaniel was

worried about the mustand because he's like, we'll get hailed on.

But uh so with the weather, this is funny how this comes around, right, So, uh one of the topics of the show literally comes because of weather this week.

So every time it rains, I'm one of those guys that once I think the rain is gone that I want to take my bi go and get my vehicle washed.

Speaker 3: You know.

Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, okay, and I told you guys, I like wash my own vehicle, but you know, I'll run it. So while I'm getting my vehicle cleaned up,

I am for whatever reason, I'm on my phone reading some of the news articles. I told you guys, we

get a lot of stuff sent to us through email for the radio show. And then I kind of picked

through stories. Well, somebody has sent me a story and

it was about having your car washed, car washed, And this one takes a little weird twist to a certain degree because I would have never I don't know why I would have never thought about this, but it was like, do you know how bad it can be for you to take your car or car wash? Now most of you,

all Nathaniels, are shaking. It said, okay, Nathan, before I

get into this, hold on, so you you you're a mile guin me, pig, why do you believe it's bad to take your car to the car wash?

Speaker 3: Well, car wash? There's multiple car washespot free car wash,

you tell me. So, Like I don't personally like taking

mind to the car wash. I get like the spotless

you know, right, non talking on, but still I don't like taking to a car wash in general, because when do you ever think they really start cleaning those car washes?

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 3: So the car after a while, so it gets dirty, like you know, me and Karen, We've taken Camera's card to a car wash a couple of times, and you know, you always feel like your car isn't getting clean enough because the brushes whatever the brushes or you know, like the soap, I don't know what you call those, the bos box and stuff. I mean you can you know

they hit the windshield well, getting stuck in the stuff exactly, and then not washing it. I mean a many times

you go in through the car wash and you can see just the dirt just dripping off the seen I've seen it, rightly, and like you said, the gravel, you don't really know what's kind of like tangling up and there.

Speaker 2: Little yeah, because you.

Speaker 4: Know all that stuff.

Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just you know, personally, I prefer hand washing it, even if I can't get to it, you know. Unfortunate, yeah,

the touchless, but even the touchles I feel like don doesn't do a great job as well as you know what kind of kim you know, you never know, really know what kind of Kimbo are putting into it, right.

I mean it's not cheap either.

Speaker 2: It works.

Speaker 3: Car washes are not cheap anymore. I mean you're paying

twenty sometimes forty dollars just to get your car.

Speaker 2: I saw a specials wash. I saw a special two

or three days ago. I was driving it. Seven dollars

for the ultimate car wash. But it's like if you

signed up for like a two month membership or something like that, but.

Speaker 3: Then you got to ask yourself, how is how good is it really for seven dollars? Like I think, I

think right, I mean, come on, like back in the day, I remember like pulling up to the car wash, people taking pride and washing people's car, shining, buffing tire, you know, tires, shine, armorole everything.

Speaker 2: That's because you missed triple Yeah great.

Speaker 3: But so was Audibell did great when they first came to the area. But as time goes on, people, you know,

employees change, right as I say, employees change people.

Speaker 2: I've gone at I've gone to autible. We're throwing names

out there. I wasn't going to, but he did it.

I've gone to auto belt and I've had a very good experience for what it is. I understand what is right. Yeah,

had good experiences and I usually try to tip the guys well when they take care of the vehicle. But

I'm not taking like it's it's that's my daily driver, my truck, you know, I mean, you actually know I love my truck. But I'll i will take it there

and let them wash it. I'm not too worried about,

like you know about it. It's not like I'm taking

the bad am there. I'm definitely not going to take

white noise there. I'm not taking you know, I don't

even take the camera there, to be honest with you, because I just don't you know, I.

Speaker 3: Mean, you just don't know what you're getting, right.

Speaker 5: I wish so I've taken my car. I'm the type

of person I'll take my car to a car washing.

Speaker 4: Was you just put some you can't see it's fine, scratches, it's not look if they scratch it.

Speaker 2: Before scratches what you don't really know?

Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what. But I'm my car is a daily driver.

Speaker 5: It just goes a B C. You know sometimes sometimes,

but I'll take it to it like a car wash.

And sometimes even though how heavy those brushes are going against your car, sometimes it rolls right out the door and I'm like, can we run that back.

Speaker 4: Through it again? You know, I'm like, there's still bird

crap on the window.

Speaker 5: I just pay two dollars for this car wash for for that to still be there?

Speaker 4: Can I I wish they sold like I package for that. Yes,

I would purpose.

Speaker 5: I purposely would pay another like two three dollars just to be like, set it through again, you know right right, it's a double wash, you know, like because now and I'm on the side taking the spray spray in the window tapping.

Speaker 4: Promotion special? What's the bird crab special, sir?

Speaker 5: Where I can run this through two different times because apparently it's gonna take two times to clean that bird crap off the window?

Speaker 2: I don't like, right, So I try to park my cars away from you know a lot of things, right, But for somehow I end up getting some type of it's either plant sap or tree sap.

Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm four seen.

Speaker 4: I'm like, where did this come from? White's?

Speaker 2: And it will go through the car wash and it's still there, and then they're handing me back my car and I'm like, you didn't seem like a car wash, right, They're like, well, then you know the car wash doesn't take care of that.

Speaker 4: Okay, I understand special.

Speaker 2: Special, it wouldn't work, But I'm like, I still see like and I can go to my like up to the car my finger.

Speaker 3: It should be called it shouldn't be called a car wash.

It should be called like the car rents because it rents it.

Speaker 4: That's probably a better it might be.

Speaker 3: Or the touch up, you know, just car touch up.

Speaker 2: Okay, right, so here I'm gonna mess you all up.

I got you guys all loaded up on car washes.

This is the whole reason why I have This wasn't even what the conversation really was about. It was about

car washes, but not for the reasons you guys.

Speaker 5: I don't like the packages, you know, I wish it was just one fee you get everything. Why is it

seven dollars for a basic wash? And then it's like

twenty dollars for half of the features. And then it's

like when I put into a car wash and I see all those lights light up stuff, right, So then I start so then I started thinking this, right, so you know how they have three different lines and everybody's picking a different package and everything. I'm like, but but

but how can you tell that that that's my package?

Speaker 4: Getting the package?

Speaker 2: I got one for you. I got one for you

missed the fight. I went and ran I won't see

where I went. But I ran my car through a

car wash. So I go there and I'm like, he's like,

can I help you, sir, I'm like sure. I was like,

I just I want to wash. I want the inside

wipe down. And I said, I kind of, I said,

I told you guys a lot of times. I'll go

to the car rents. I'm like, and I'm not gonna

re call a car wash against and uh, I'll let them go ahead and just kind of do it. And

then I bring it back the house and I do the and they've seen me do without, and I do like with the real washes on, like I'll go and hit all the touch up, and if there's the tree sap on, I have tree sap remover and I'll touch it and let it sit and I wipe it and it comes off. And I go in the interior and

I really do the interior the way that I want it done. But so I go to this place and

he gives me the whole spiel where there's like seventeen different things to choose from.

Speaker 4: Do you want the mean you know?

Speaker 6: You know?

Speaker 2: And I want to say, I just need the inside wipe down. Hit a little arm or whatever, you know,

whatever you' all going to do, just wash it outside, hit it with the wax. And he's like, okay, sir,

what seventy nine dollars? And I was like, I know for.

Speaker 4: Me that okay is like what I mean. I didn't

even think about it.

Speaker 2: Didn't be honest with you. It didn't even register what

he said. I was just like afterwards, it did. So

I just handed my card.

Speaker 4: I was kind of right diletating.

Speaker 3: Wait did he just say?

Speaker 2: I was like, so, I just handed my card. And

then I was sitting there as they're doing the car, and I got to thinking about it.

Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I really for seventy What was seventy nine dollars?

Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever spent seventy nine.

Speaker 3: Dollars a fresh.

Speaker 4: No, the car, here's the thing I got.

Speaker 2: No, I got it, got done. I got in the car,

I tipped him. I'm driving on the road, and I

really got to thinking about it.

Speaker 4: Dollars no.

Speaker 3: No.

Speaker 2: I was thinking, right, you're right with what you knew me well, which I tip well, and I just realized what they're doing isn't is I don't think it's the easiest job they do. But I'm driving like, I don't

what was seventy nine dollars? I'm like, I don't know,

who's the breakdown. Well, then I realized and remembered that

the receipt was on the window, and I pulled it off and it was it was laying in this set and I he ala card me on everything like normal package, so like I paid for the package, which then comes with that all this like stuff, and then he ala card me additional calls for other like the things that already would have been in the package. I was like,

and that's how because I didn't mess up, because I went back like into my head and I went back like two weeks later. I just wanted to we had

a rainstorm. I wanted to run the trust the theory,

and I did. I asked the same thing and it

was like thirty nine dollars. I was like, yeah, I got,

I got. So I have I have a friend whose

son works at one of the car washes. He's in

high school and he goes there and that's his his after school job. And he told me something. So I'm

gonna tell you guys, take a look at this.

Speaker 4: Just see if it.

Speaker 2: Happens to you, so they'll ring through.

Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying everybody does it, and I'm not saying.

Speaker 2: Who it is or whatever. You guys can figure it,

figure out who you go to whatever. There's a bunch

of our area, but it could be anybody. It could

be a personal one. I'm just putting.

Speaker 4: Out amission forever.

Speaker 2: No, they don't, but they can go back and take off things and then but they already have the money and then it's wrung up as a tip.

Speaker 4: Ah.

Speaker 2: I was like, get out of here. I was like,

there's but this is not the first time we've seen this done this in this industry. This first time.

Speaker 4: Because I go to multiple car I go to multiple.

Speaker 5: Car wash companies one either searching for the deals, the app deals and stuff, you know. And but that would

make sense because I have gone before. And then they

hand you like that little tip card and then you're like, but I didn't put a tip on, so how did you How did you give me a tip card?

Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I didn't think about that, But I guess if you go, if you if you have manager access or whatever access you need, and you go in and you rewring it and then you just and you can put it through as the tip. Then

nobody's going to ever write. Absolutely So, while I was

sitting there having the car washed, and I'll get back to it in the stories. The reason why I brought

up about cars and being washed and how your guys has thought about it is there's one thing that you guys that probably you have never thought about. Do you

know just how dirty a car wash really is?

Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't put a number on it, but I can guarantee it's pretty dirty.

Speaker 2: In the way you think. I'm not talking about what

you were talking about with the dirt pouring offs of things.

The hodes that they used to vacuum cars has been somebody sent me the story. Do you know that one

of the number one things that they find on the end of that hose when they test it, what fecal matter?

Really and they keep using it in your car that may be a clean car, and they're using that hose and they hit it the car wash your you would turn over and over again.

Speaker 5: You think you would think that the sant like you know, like how restaurants have a sanitation company a sanitation bucket, You would think that they would have to dip that hose into a sanitation.

Speaker 2: Tested car wash places and did swabs them. And because

people are dirty and they have animals, are they are, then themselves are dirty and they're rubbing it across it and vacuum it up, and then it spreads equal eye and all kinds of like diseases and stuff into your car that you made cleaner before it was.

Speaker 3: Am I look clean?

Speaker 7: Like?

Speaker 4: No?

Speaker 2: Wait, now, let me boggle the mind even further. I'm

not even get you even further. So equal eye thing

that right right? What do you think if you had

to think about how even this discuss it is? Because

you guys, I don't do well with like at all.

But all the body fluids that they are vacuum out of cars and it's on that hose and they keep on going. You can't tell me that hose gets wiped

down after every car.

Speaker 3: Put it.

Speaker 2: Something something that kills it something, but they don't. How

does that affect you think about it? Other than the

fact that this your car has now been contamidated. This

one's going to blow your mind. What is the number

one thing cars are used for nowadays? I'll hold that thought,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars. You're automotive specialist. Now

back to your host, Dave Polach.

Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So before I went to commercial break,

I was asking what was the one thing with going to the car wash that no one can talk about.

They talked there was a whole article about how dirty that the vacuums are and stuff at car washes, and just how you may be putting stuff in your car that was never in your car in the first place.

And I said, the one thing that cars are now used to that people don't think about, and how this is crazy when you put it all together.

Speaker 4: I'm thinking groceries. So that's what I said on there.

Speaker 3: I think the grocer is a pretty good guest, honestly.

I mean, if I'm thinking maybe eels may like people like sleeping in them time to time.

Speaker 2: You're you're close, you were you were on the right track. Okay,

so think about it. You were going to the car

wash and having your car wash because you wanted to look all nice and right exacum right, and they when they back the vacuum and stuff. But your part time job,

I was, oh.

Speaker 5: Uber eating, You're bringing it into other people's homes, not just your own.

Speaker 2: Well, like that could be any any and it could be not just not to say it's just too reads, I mean any food and it could be any of them.

But like it's that's crazy when you start thinking about you're like, oh man, I'm putting like my food. Like

you go to the grocertoy, you just go grocery shop or whatever, and you have groceries. Are you know in

your car your groceries you put you're putting them where somebody may have now put something in your car, like like the people go and something I was talking about people like, well people have their dogs in their car and they scooch their butt on the seat and then they go get grocery. I'm like, yeah, that's that's that's

pretty gross too, like like it still falls to the grocer range, and like you didn't make it better, and I have like, like I told you I don't do body flu stuff like that. You guys are We told

the people I see pick their nose in their car, and I wonder what they're gonna do with it. Like

I have a problem with like bodily things, so it grosses me out way over the top. Now I'm just

like h And then I got to talk about car ride share programs, all the different ones. I'm not gonna say

all the names. We just named them all. But you're

getting in these cars and you're like, oh, I'm getting in a car. It's nice and clean here, But what

what rag did you use to clean your car with?

You know what I mean?

Speaker 3: Like that's a good point. It's something you never really

think about.

Speaker 2: I would have never I would have never thought of it.

Speaker 3: But then again, it's like, you know, it comes down to like decency. It's like people are using like other

people's stuff to clean, you know, like and you're not like having the respect to like you know, may pick up your own dog crap instead of using like the general hose that everybody's using the vacuum right right. I mean,

it's just like it has a decency thing, dude.

Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Like I was grossed up, and I was like, I never thought about it, But now I'm like just overly then slightly grossed down my house. I

got the steamer all.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 3: But you know sometimes you stop and.

Speaker 4: Think about it.

Speaker 5: I'm like, well, think about like how many times people just dropped to drink in their car and they just go to like the car cleaner and then they use that hose to suck out there.

Speaker 2: We were talking about back when I was in the car industry and stuff, we had loaner cars, and we got to talking about this week about all the loaner cars that we used to loan out to people and stuff, and how they came back, and you got a really good look at how people live in life and how much they just don't care about anything. Right when you

got your loaner car back. Now you loaned them a car,

you didn't run it to them. I can't imagine what

rental car companies go through. It's got to be horrible.

But these were loaner cars that we loan to. People

didn't charge anything to let to take cars, and we would get them back and they would be just disgusting.

See I mean, just just burn it down, just set it on fire. I ontly want to back. Just set

that car and fire. We don't want that car back disgusting.

Speaker 4: I mean the neytime I've.

Speaker 5: Gotten a rental car from my insurance company, I've been the type of person to take a rag and go clean everything and stuff.

Speaker 4: Cars is the car wash.

Speaker 3: And we had the whole conversation about, you know, rental cars just start having products and the trunk.

Speaker 5: Right, we should have like a a cleaning pass where you're able to, like let's say you do have a rental car for a week, they should have a clean pass.

Speaker 4: Might not at least for people like.

Speaker 2: No one's gonna use it, because if you're so disgusting that you leave the car that nasty, you're not taking the time and run it through a car.

Speaker 3: If you're if your car then you just dropped off, looks really bad and you bring it back decimated, Why do I think you're gonna actually clean?

Speaker 2: Hold On, we were talking. We got a loaner car

back and it smelled like baby throw up in It's so.

Speaker 4: Bad, and I don't think that's what it was.

Speaker 2: We all came to the determination. We're pretty sure that

it was milk, like like people spill maybe that kids, and the milk spilt in the car, and then it sat in the hot sun for like the whole two weeks they had the car. I wanted to burn that

car to the ground. It was so bad.

Speaker 3: You're like, I wondered why she brought it back so early.

Speaker 2: We took a pressure washer to that vehicle. Look to

the interior of the car. I know you see weird

videos of that, but we literally put soap on it and took a pressure washer to the interior of the car to get the smell. Nothing would cut the smell

in the car. We finally got it out, but that's

what it took. It took putting soap in it and

pressure washing the seats with a pressure washer in the carpeterals to get the smell out of it. It was

so bad, and I know everybody's gonna go, well, then water went down into the jew Now, if you get an extractor out and you suck it out and stuff like that, then it is, but you couldn't like nothing.

I tried the steamer on it, and steamed it. I

tried my commercial carpet cleaner on it. Didn't take it out.

The only thing that took it out was hosing that car down with a pressure washer and with a lot of soap over and over again and watching it to the point where the soap was foamy and took the seats out and pressure washed the seats. I mean, like

the only way we get the smell out of that car.

And it was a loner, like it's not even.

Speaker 3: Yours, you have to return it. That.

Speaker 2: I always knew we were in trouble when people like just set the key on the counter to the Lorner car and never like hey, thanks for letting us use the car or anything like that. When they just set

the key on it and got there and they dashed real quick, I'm like, I got a take a look at this thing. This is gonna be bad. This is

gonna be it's gonna be really bad. And sure enough,

I'm gonna say probably eight out of ten times it was if they set the key down, just slid the key in your direction, filled out their paperwork, and took their car back in the day. I'm like, this is

gonna be disgusting. I'll guarantee it's gonna be gross. I

mean fast food that they ate. They just sat in

the car in the bag the whole time they.

Speaker 5: Have I can only imagine, for like the rental car companies, how worse it is because you don't even have to face anybody.

Speaker 4: You just put it in the you know.

Speaker 2: Something might tell me, is there if you rent a car and you leave it that discussing? Is there a

that's that's to say how much I take care of a runner car.

Speaker 4: I've never been charged a feed like that.

Speaker 3: I don't know there is. There's so many fees that

come with the round cars, you know, not having the gas and left it, you know, if you leave it destroyed as a cleaning.

Speaker 2: Fee, destroyed feed. But I'm talking like because I was

just a dirt bag and left. Yeah, no, there is

there is a I'm an I can't say the word, but am I an asked, do you know what fee?

Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

Speaker 3: Like, that's what surprises me when people actually leave their car destroyed. It's like, do you just not care about

having to pay that fee?

Speaker 2: Or are you you don't even realize you're that disgusting.

Speaker 5: Right, They probably don't care about paying the fee because as much as it would cost them to clear out of the car walls.

Speaker 3: I like you I'm doing I'm doubly charged.

Speaker 2: What if you made the fee like crazy? Right?

Speaker 5: I think it is like two hundred and fifty bucks in the car. I think it's two fifty pultiple, we

had to make the feed, like make the feed like something just astronomically cristy.

Speaker 2: Every every piece of garbage we picked, we charge you twenty dollars story piece of garbage I got to pick up out of the car like, then you put maybe we wouldn't do it, Like I said, these were things I don't know. Like I said, I get weird conversations

with people. It turns into this show. But it was

like the start off with the car washing, and there was a conversation and I start remembering how people brought our cars back to us and I was just like, oh, yeah, I guess. And then you start thinking about what did

they use your car nowadays? Like I would be worried,

like the car business loaning cars because things have changed, and I'd be like, well, what did they use the car for. I mean, think about like people they do

all the ride sharing services and stuff. I'm like, did

our car get used for that? And think how many

people were in and out of it?

Speaker 3: In the trash and oh, and like I'm not put on it.

Speaker 2: Look, if you're a driver in a service and you've got some create set them into me. I'm just curious

the things you guys had to go through and the things you have to do with Like I heard, like I have friends who have kids who did ubering and stuff like that, like you know, and they were telling me about people getting sick in their car and stuff like that, and that already was like, Nope, the time.

Speaker 3: That happens, that was it.

Speaker 2: That was that'd be the end of it. The first

time I picked somebody up and they threw up in my car, I'd had to burn my car. Like I

already told you guys, like I have some rules, like if you do some weird things, I want a new car.

I just don't even want the car anymore. I mean,

call me strange, but if you do some nasty stuff my truck, I'm not gonna want to drive it. I'm like, no,

I don't want that I'm good, I'm gonna sell, I'm get me something new. I'm I'm not owning that vehicle.

I mean, it's bad enough. You guys heard me say,

like you're laughing, but you know it's true, you last.

Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely true.

Speaker 5: It ranges, so they don't really so they say that they don't have a cleaning fee, but if it's more than like the where what they claim as where and tear of what a regular rental car should go through, it can range anywhere from like thirty dollars all the way up to five hundred dollars. One of the things

that they do point out though, is pet here. So

if you have pet here in the car, they're gonna charge a clean fee for that. So you know, I'll

name some of the companies because it is what it is.

But Budget will charge you four hundred and fifty dollars for a cleaning car here, just cleaning the car just if there's like it needs it bad, like very very bad.

You know, Enterprise will charge a detail fee.

Speaker 2: Insurance, So if you insureance, does it cover all that you got that additional insurance? Like you know that you

buy from them. Yeah, you're saying the car was destroyed.

Speaker 5: Technically, you can light the car on five air left the car in shurts.

Speaker 4: You used to ye used to be able to think things that changed.

Speaker 2: By the way, why boys fixed that.

Speaker 5: We're not looking to a rental car for seema. We

do have car insurance. I'm seeing that message hair now

for cars, right.

Speaker 2: It's it's this rag and I've seen it and you wipe it and pulls the pet hair up off the seats.

Speaker 5: And there's a sticky brush one like that company as a rag or something.

Speaker 2: I saw it and I was curious. I don't have

that problem, so I never really needed but I like to buy it just to see if it works. I've

seen it advertised. You know, why do you make the face?

You know I own so many weird things. I understand

car because I just want to see if it works.

Speaker 4: He wants to try. Where is going to get a dog?

Speaker 2: Because Yeah'm gonna be the weird guy. Excuse me, sir,

your dog for a second. You let him roll around

the cars. Here's the weird one now standing on the sidewalk. No, no,

it's not what you think.

Speaker 3: Really, I just you don't want to take a ride in my car.

Speaker 2: Hey, sir, could you mind if I take your dog for a quicker ride?

Speaker 4: I got.

Speaker 2: You become the weird guy. No, I'm not gonna be

that guy. I'm just saying I was curious. It works

like that, and the sand thing works. If you've seen

the thing where they take I use my my orbit sander.

If you take the sandy disc off it.

Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all vibrate.

Speaker 2: Yeah, the sand does come up somehow better with the vacuum.

I've done it. It works. And now somebody told me

they have actually have a vibrator that that for that that you drop down. It librates and it makes it. No,

I didn't know. I didn't know that. Like somebody told

me about it. I was like really, I was like

I've always just I saw it and I used it and put it on there, and I don't know. Before

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, man. I tell you what these fools they

try to get you in trouble. Why are you on

their wasn't having you all know where it was going?

So I was I was being good. H I gotta

spin in a whole different direction. Right. We will all

agree or agree to disagree, maybe that video games are pretty off the hook when it comes to car chases and stuff we talked about on the show. Like I

feel like some of the games.

Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I here kids for Like do you feel you's like games have kind of like cut back a little bit? Like you don't think so all?

I think I just like general, like you know, like we haven't had like something like crazy in a while, like you know, like and like I say, like two ten made like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, like you know, we had.

Speaker 2: A I mean mass of like Hot Pursuit was one of the games.

Speaker 3: Right like he wasn't really coming out anymore or like you know, GTA, you know the new ones better come out, but it was you know, it's been fifteen years since they came out to the new one. So I feel

like you feel like they've kind of like cut back on some of that stuff.

Speaker 2: So I would agree with you, But I don't have kids of a certain age anymore. Okay that I that

that's really thought. But I okay, I got I told you,

I get weird conversations. I got in a conversation weeks

ago and I was talking with somebody, uh that as a friend of mine who has kids of like eight to ten, and I didn't think about it at that time, but I thought about it after the conversation and we were talking about video games and how because we used to play video games together online. So that's how the

conversation came up. And he was like, well, you know,

my son, he doesn't really play the game. He doesn't

play the missions. And I was like, oh, really, he's like, man,

he just drives around, just jacket people and stealing their cars and stuff. That's he spends I'm like, oh, all right.

And I didn't think about it and I went and it was after the conversation I was like, that's what we were talking about on the radio show. I'm like,

that's that's so it is the problem. I'm like, so, basically,

you're saying your son spends like.

Speaker 10: Four hours playing the video game, never doing the missions, never doing anything at all that has to do with what the game is based for. He just goes and

drives around and robs people at gunpoints, steals their car.

Speaker 2: And goes drive around crash into people for hours on end.

I'm like, yep, that's how we have some of the problems these stories we see that we talked about it and taking it on, you know, on the air.

Speaker 4: I'm like, this, that's how this comes around.

Speaker 3: That's all Cameron does.

Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Sometimes I won't do some of the missions,

but it is fun just.

Speaker 5: You know, drinking a car, pouring them out of the he's taking their car back to the shop.

Speaker 2: He's like that son does like he goes, so he goes into the office world and he goes. He just

spends his day message hormation. People like, oh, so, then

I there's that right, And you're like, okay, I I kind of see how that's fun. But I start to

understand how like people are growing up and they're like stealing guards because the.

Speaker 4: Doing that too long.

Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's what his sone's doing, but I but I get it.

Speaker 5: And then hold on, well, I do just kind of see where Nate's coming from though, because you got to remember some of the games back then you go try to steal a car and be like all right, now, let me show you how to pick this luck. You know,

the rake and like we were just talking about Hot Pursuit.

Hot Pursuit, you had to hit into the police to be able to you had to get out away from them.

We haven't seen a game like that come out for ten years or so.

Speaker 2: What I want you to do is, when you have some time, this is a story you got sent to me, go onto Amazon and look up. I think it's underneath

uh Cops and Robbers, or maybe it's under Hot Pursuit.

There is the Power Wheels.

Speaker 4: I don't even know what you call it.

Speaker 2: I guess you're calling the Cops and Robber edition. That's

not what I would call it. Where they're selling the

police car version of the power wheel and then the getaway car version, and they sell their something like a set somebody something.

Speaker 3: That it's such a father and son thing.

Speaker 4: That was awesome. Das like, that's not an awesome thing.

They were teaching on kids the wrong, you know.

Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, I would I would be the adult in the police car with the megazone going.

Speaker 3: Rather a power wheel, right, your kids already a menace behind the wheels.

Speaker 4: You you right, the.

Speaker 3: Battery, you as your parent is you know you're the cop.

You can pull them over, you know, give them you know the talk.

Speaker 6: Can you know? You know, you guys are crashing into

each other. There ain't no talk going on. Somebody sell

me story and I'm like, there's no way. And then

I look and I'm like, it's it's a real thing.

Speaker 2: And as I guess as I was kind to be maybe judgmental just a little bit, then I remembered and I told them. I was like, well, you know what,

I did have the Chips edition big wheel that had the siren and had the megaphone on it where you're like, pull over, and I had it, and I spent time chasing my friends and their big wheels because we didn't have power wheels. Guys. That's oll the generation I can

we had big wheels and so then. But I think

times have changed from then to like now, Like you didn't hear about people stealing cars like left and right, and you didn't hear about kids like stealing cars like the kids.

Speaker 3: I feel like that was still a thing. Is you

didn't really care about it.

Speaker 4: It could be you could.

Speaker 5: They didn't have news back then. It just it just

came in the morning and you had knock on.

Speaker 2: The door morning.

Speaker 4: You didn't get a knock on the door.

Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, the newspaper.

Speaker 2: I probably never told this story. So I delivered newspapers

for a very short period of time when I was a kid. Is that chased and no, I realized. So

they kept trying to get you take on more table, more and more and more. And as a kid, I'm thinking, okay,

with more money. By the way, it didn't pay very much.

It was horrible, Like my paycheck for delivering papers was awful back then. I'll keep in mind I was in

sixth grade. I was doing it in sixth grade.

Speaker 3: I made way more money selling candy box.

Speaker 2: I did way more money. And if I never told you,

I saw candy door to door for a company called United Teens. I think they're still around. I don't look

it up. And I made a lot of money doing that,

but newspapers, no. And then I got smart and I

was like, okay. I had a go cart and I

was like, I this will make it quicker. No, do

you know how hard it is, like try to like slide your like go cart up in someone's front. You're

to get close enough to be able to like from a go cart throw the pape. It was more work

than it was. It wasn't a job that lasted in

my mind. It was so much cooler.

Speaker 5: Because you know, when I was a teenager, so I thought I was like, you know, I could go build a hand cannon and just have somebody drive.

Speaker 4: Around, just like we had to.

Speaker 2: Like we had to take the newspaper and roll it up and put the rubber band on like they got delivered to us. They were not. We had to roll

our own and put them all together. We had to

put the inserts inside of them and all that kind of stuff before we rolled them. And if it was

rained and you had a bag them and stuff in this ring, it was Look, it was more work, literally than what I thought was gonna be all I in my mind, I picture racing around on my go cart, you know, just whipping papers. You know, I'm like.

Speaker 4: Nothing to it now. It's the first job you never quit.

Speaker 2: I think that was the first job I ever quit.

Speaker 3: You gotta get them at six in the morning, bag these bad boys up, and then go.

Speaker 2: To your tour four forty five so you could rat.

I had a lot of papers. There's a lot of

people in my route. We had a pretty big route.

We had a big neighborhood so and and then you had and then on top of it, which I didn't realize, you were responsible for collecting the money. Like if you

didn't get the money collected, you didn't get paid. Like

that's how you got paid, like because you paid for your papers up front, like you got to pay, so you paid a fee for your papers, and then they paid you, and then you deducted the money. And you

guys know, if you ever don't know how to go, look it up. But like in my mind it was

hot rod dreams. In my mind, I'm like, I'm just

gonna race around on my go cart and do all the kind of stuff. But now you've.

Speaker 4: Got power wheels being sold to kids.

Speaker 3: It's a great idea. The promotion could be the son

and dad duo.

Speaker 10: I don't know.

Speaker 2: If I don't think you can buy them in the store.

I think you had to buy I think somebody has done together like they like did it and they're just selling them like their own set or something maybe like that.

I don't know. I don't I still think.

Speaker 5: It would be cool too, because I would be like the father that's pigging the other vehicle.

Speaker 2: Like there's no doubt, like you can't take us and put us on go carts without us like tearing go karts up. So I can only make like I can't

wait to be a grandpa and my grandchildren and just show them all the stuff that's gonna annoy my kids, like that has that's automotive related, like have to have life insurance on my own kids. Telling you, I can't

wait to get to that point. But I don't know,

you guys, the jury's out. You tell me, like I said,

I saw it. I didn't have the reaction I think

most people did. I went, oh, I don't know if

that's a good idea. And maybe because I'm just I

I get all these news stories that you guys don't know see, and you.

Speaker 4: Said, dude, this is amazing.

Speaker 3: You know. Maybe maybe because like he said, he doesn't

have kids of that age anymore. But maybe back in

the day he'd be like, oh, I'm donally getting these.

Speaker 4: No, maybe I.

Speaker 2: Think I'm not getting to vehicle get so many stories sent to us through through through the radio, shooting through a different eye, like all the kids like stealing cars and then being you know, and then they ran out chased by the police and they gotta get right ouf the road, and I think maybe I'm thinking about in that light and I'm thinking the wrong way. So I

just kind of go maybe when I was twenty five, I'm like, that's awesome. I'm getting I'm the guy who

was twenty five years old that bought them remote control fire trucks when they were babies and thought that was a great idea of why because.

Speaker 4: I'm a car guy.

Speaker 2: And I was like, and then and then I bought them each one hundred hot wheels and they were at one years old.

Speaker 4: And I held on that fire truck for a while. Okay,

we talked about it, and we talked about.

Speaker 2: It, so I'm not going to say I've always had the best ideas when you were a young dad, because I they had so many radio control cars they couldn't play with them. I think I really bought it for me, uh,

and then I just said that was for them. I

think that's probably what happened. I think most car guys

probably do that now. If I could do that in

the adult world now, where I could just keep buying muscle cars and just tell them, like, you know, they're for everybody else, they're not for me. But they're really

for me. That was really great. If you want to

buy me a Corvette, I'm all about it. I don't know,

like you guys tell me, is this a good idea?

Is it a bad idea? I mean, I understand we

all play Cops and Robbers like I get it, like I played it. I'm sure you guys played. Everybody played it.

I just in concept. Sure, I think it's a great idea.

I'm just worried about the actor, Like, you know, what does that transition into. I don't know, maybe maybe I'm

were too worried about you guys are look at You're like, no, this is awesome. I'm sure it probably is. I'm probably

looking at totally in the wrong, like it probably is supposed to be, Like, let's go buy the row. His

mind is like, can we can we get a set like now I can just start playing with them? Or

can we build go carts? Make them Cop and Robber

go carts? Like I see the wheels spin it in

your head. He's like, we already talking.

Speaker 3: About you know, I want to get a race car.

You know, we can have a cop racecar like we did back in the day, and then we can have a robber cop car.

Speaker 5: I mean we'll race car because let's go let's go buy I mean, hey, wait a minute, let's go buy five hundred dollars cars and create bashup cars.

Speaker 2: I mean that would be fun.

Speaker 4: For that.

Speaker 2: There's some crashing them about in the back of the on the back field.

Speaker 4: That might be something.

Speaker 2: I don't know. You guys don't know what you think

good idea about idea. I'm curious what you guys think.

I got to take quick commercial breakwinkme back. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: Yay's welcome back. So here's an interesting one for I

told I got a bunch of stuff sent to me and some stories and stuff, and the listeners send me things and things come to the news I had. It's

a news story that was by somebody else that got sent to me. So and sorry if I it's your story. Hey,

it was a good story. I read it and it

brought me a reason to talk about it. We've talked

on this show many different times about technology and cars and how I believe some of it's good, some of it's bad, ideas and stuff. One of the things that

I didn't realize until I read this story this week was the safety young cars and how behind we are as American cars and cars that come to the US and stuff like that. That there's a lot more safety

that could be out there in cars that we have either we have a technology have instituted in cars. Uh

in the and then he goes, well, why not, I did not understand that your highway traffic I can never get it. The Highway Traffic Control Board administrate, I didn't know.

They're kind of independent and the federal government and those two work independently from each other, and they're the ones that make independent decisions of what they believe is best to go into cars. And we're way behind the times

what we believe because technology has advanced so quickly, but we haven't advanced the technology into cars as quick as technology has advanced. Does that make sense? Like integrated headlights,

all the different stuff, all the different things they could be doing with cars to make them safer, it is wrapped up in red tape. It's wrapped up in the laws,

and a.

Speaker 3: Lot of European cars have it, where cars like you're talking about the headlights, you know, the headlights were integrate a way.

Speaker 2: You know, for a while hearing in the United States still full integrated headlights that make a bunch of decisions based on UH. The car itself makes a decision for

you how the headlights rather, how bright to make them, how dim to make them, all that kind of stuff, and everybody goes, well, I have an auto dimmer. It's

not the same thing I'm talking about. It's smart headlights,

Like they can do a lot of things we don't.

Speaker 3: Like being w like being w headlights, and they when someone's driving towards you, their headlights actually move away so it's not blinding the other driver.

Speaker 4: Right.

Speaker 2: So the technology that's out there just in that. So

we talked about smart wintrows before that technology. I think

the reason why that hasn't moved forward. I keep on

talking about, like, look, I saw it live and in person, the way it works, and it has so much safety stuff in it. I'm being told now the reason why

I keep questioning it and it comes up on the show a lot because I thought was a great thing.

And the reason why we haven't seen installed cars is it's literally government red tape between one independent company that tells the government what they believe is the safest thing, and the government has to have laws and regulations that institute that stuff, and nobody's writing new policy on that. Therefore,

we can't move forward with technology in the cars in safety because because they want to govern it right away somewhere so as to be governed through And that's the reason why we can have safer cars. And I'm like, really,

like is it which is iestally that's simple being the reason.

Speaker 3: It can be a good thing and a bad thing.

Like you said, it's a good thing because you know, you want anything to work the way it should work.

You don't want any you know, I think any bad things that happen. At the same time, it does slow

down progression.

Speaker 2: Which is wasteful. We are so behind the times in

progression on and I'm just talking safety guys, like we're not talking about Like I told you, Level five H technology for autonomous vehicles exists, it's been around for a while.

We're not using it because there's no law that regulates it.

Level four. We're not really using level four in any

car at this point in time because there's no law and no regulation for it. I think BMW is the highest.

Maybe Miss Mercedes, I think that's using level three. They

use level three autonomous. But when you get to four

and five, that's when you start losing pedals and steering wheels and all that kind of stuff. You don't need

any of that. You are literally just in a box

in a box that.

Speaker 3: There's a car out there that does use Level four, but it's only in certain guidelines, like it's restricted right now, we're talking about like it has to be like you know, certain highways or certain speeds.

Speaker 2: We have all this power, right like, we have all this technology, and we have all these there's good lawmakers to lawmakers, but we have all these people that are in government to make laws. Like you would think we

would have progressed this, but for the fact that a lot of stuff weighs on independent to tell us what they believe, and they're don't have their act together quick enough to advance it. And I told you I fell

into this. I already know it, so I probably shouldn't

be surprised because I told you about when I got the ticket, and it fell into the reason why I got that ticket because there's no law governing self driving features and cars yet, and that's how I end up getting my ticket first ticket twenty five years So I guess I should have, but I didn't think. I was

more upset about the whole self driving feature and that not being recognized. I never even thought about the fact

that we are paused to a certain degree on safety because of rule and regularly to you how bad that that is.

Speaker 3: Do you think that it's paused or red tape because we're trying to find a the best way to govern it?

Or do you think it's because.

Speaker 2: I think it's older much red tape?

Speaker 4: Okay, I say.

Speaker 3: Or do you think it's because you know a lot of technologies made by you know, younger people or you know, middle aged So I know you don't know you, I know you go there, so we know some people are just kind of stuck in their way.

Speaker 2: This is our conversation that you and I. Camera doesn't

weigh in on this too much, but Nathaniel and I bounce back and forth on this a lot. There's a

lot of topics that him and I, uh we come to a medium on because and I agree with them on some things.

Speaker 4: I do.

Speaker 2: I believe a lot of things that we have problems with between my generation and his generation is stuck in our ways. Uh, old technology, that's just the way it's

always been, that's the answer. Well, that's because that's the

way we always done it, right. I hate that term,

but I also get that's the reason why their generation has issues with our generation on certain things, because instead of sometimes opening in our eyes and seeing a new way, we're just settled in our old ways and we just accept that to be what it is. And I agree

with him on a lot of things, certain things he throws in the mix with me that I that that doesn't apply to and then him and I argue back and forth on I'm like, now, I don't think that one applies here. He's like, ah, Dad, I think it does.

Speaker 5: The phrase that they keep using is well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 4: Some things need fixing, all right. You see, I don't

use that one.

Speaker 2: I don't use that one because I believe that I as a person, I'm open minded enough to hear, here's the thing. So my philosophy is a little different on things.

And this goes in the car world, but it doesn't when I'm working on cars, and they know, when I'm working on a car there may be a better or quicker way to do what I'm trying to do right that second that they may know or they have come up with the worst time to tell me that is in the heat of things, when I'm frustrated, like it's the word I just know that about my personality.

Speaker 4: Is the worst time.

Speaker 2: To tell me about a better way of doing things is when I'm frustrated and already like fighting something. You

probably I am not gonna get the best response out of me.

It probably any guy really or a girl that works on cars. It is probably the worst time. My philosophy

in life is I'm okay with there being a better way, and I'm up for learning a better way to do something.

But to me, there's a time and place to bring that up, and it's usually probably not in the heat of the battle. I'm being frustrated right that second, at

that current. Whatever it is, it's cars, life, whatever it is,

I can be taught new tricks. I don't want to

be taught the new trick in the heat of the battle of doing the trick that isn't working right this second.

Speaker 3: For me, the best things are forged in the fire.

Speaker 2: Though.

Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, some some battles are ended by treaties.

Speaker 4: You know. Sometimes all the time.

Speaker 2: Is you don't need to win the battle, you need to win the war. At this point in time, it's

a battle. I can't set down my weapon to hear

the reason why you want me to uh discuss the battle with you during wartime.

Speaker 4: That some of our weapons are grenades. I'm just so

much about fire while you're having the worst day ever.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good at that, and I've I've gotten better over the years. But I am look like I said,

I can hear anybody out on anything. I will listen.

I have a hard time listening when I am already frustrated and I'm in the middle of that is not the time to tell me when to how to reinvent the wheel. I don't want to know how to reinvent

the wheel right that second. I'm just trying to get

the wheel stay on the cart. I don't want to

know about the new way of putting it on. You

can tell me about it later and I'll go, you know what the next time. Yeah, I probably would be

a better way battles not a time.

Speaker 3: Those guys, though, they're like, well, should have told me, You're like.

Speaker 4: I probably am that guy sometimes too.

Speaker 2: I look, one thing I'll tell you about I'll own my bs like a thousand times over. I know what

I am. I realize I can be frustrated, just like

any human can be but if I'm frustrated and you end up being in the line of fire, I know how to go a man, I'm sorry, and and own my own bs like I know how to own up to him and be like, yeah, I probab couldn't that Differently, A lot of people can't do that. But it has

taken me a long time to grow into that. I

can tell you that when I was younger and the kids were younger, I probably I was capable of doing that, but not as quickly and as easy as I am now.

Cars are frustrated. I have I have the flag that's

hanging in my garage. It says cars are pain and

that one percent they are. I have never worked on

a car that hasn't frustrated me, and I'm getting ready to be frustrated all over again because we now have two projects in there we are trying to get finished up, and I just know the frustration that's going to come with those. By the way, yeah I know I heard it.

I saw it. Yeah, white noise, right, we have Look,

I am trying to push that through to get that done.

I got to find somebody that wants to do the things I need to be done. That I do not

have time tooling to do, and that's I want to tove that vehicle, and I just and the way that you want, the way that I want it done, and then the timeframe I want it done to. I don't

want the car sitting around some places somebody's shop just waiting to be the next car to get to it four months from now. I just I bought it so

we can enjoy it now. It's just it's a thrown

on my side right this secon because it's just the next car that I feel it's just gonna sit waiting, and I hate that feeling.

Speaker 4: You're sending me on a quest. It does doesn't exist, right.

Speaker 2: I'll let you guys know how that works out. I

still have been talking to people trying to get it in so we can get it going and get that finished up, because there's there's still stuff that needs to be done to the car, and it just I don't I'm not doing that portion. There's all the other stuff

I can do, like I'll rip the interior out and I can send that be fixed and stuff like, I got no problem. But some of the stuff that needs

to be done, something's gonna have to do it. I

just I'm not equipped to do that, so hopefully that works out. But I don't know technology. You guys, tell

me what you think are we Are we lacking technology?

And what can we do to progress that forward? And

you know, if I can find a button I could push to let somebody go ahead and tub the rear of this car in technology, it'd be great. But how

you're gonna happen? And no, guys, it's the end of

the show. Hope you guys enjoyed the show. It has

gone by quick. Literally, we were talking to our commercial break,

We're like, is this the fourth segment already?

Speaker 4: Wow?

Speaker 2: It went by really quick, but it is. I hope

you guys enjoyed it. Enjoy your guys. Weekend It is Saturday.

Sunday is right around the corner. As I always tell you, guys,

make sure you unplug, spend some time with your kids, hide their cell phones, spire with a barbecue, playboard game with them. I don't care what you do. Just make memories.

Take into a car show. They'll love it. There's always plenty,

And if you can't find one in your area, you're not looking hard enough. Because like every weekend, there's five

in our area. You can go too, So yeah, spend

some time with your kids. They will make memories with

you and you will love it. And that note, we're

gonnae and get out of here and enjoy guys' weekend. Guys,

got anything before we get.

Speaker 4: Out of here?

Speaker 3: Joey weekend?

Speaker 4: Nice?

Speaker 2: All right, we're out here and we'll talk to you soon

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