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Fellow by the name of Blair Deffenbaugh is the SCCA spokesperson.
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Blair, good morning.
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It's great you didn't know what you were doing today.
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Well, we're doing very well.
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And are you at an SCCA event?
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I see you're in a car.
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I am kind of part-time in this just a little bit at an autocross event.
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Welcome to the back of my wife's car.
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It's the back of the wife's car.
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So the backseat has another purpose at this point in life.
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It works well for a lot of things.
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We're about to find out what else it works.
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You know, now I'm a Corvette guy.
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Now I don't know as if I've ever been to an SCCA event with the Corvette, which certainly
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not the current one, but you know, there are events for Corvettes only, but I have
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to tell you that the SCCA events are pretty attractive to me because now I can see other
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people that really like to get out there and race through the cones for time without
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banging up my car and ruining my car.
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And I can ruin it as much as I want to, depending on what all I've got going on.
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You keep pointing at something.
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I have to tell you, I'm attracted to it, but I don't know too many people that
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are in SCCA locally, and I know that they are.
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But this seems to be some sort of a disjoint here when it comes to promoting advertising
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So I, where are you currently?
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Currently I'm in, I'm in Sylvan, North Carolina.
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We're near, I live near Asheville.
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SCCA is actually based in Topeka, Kansas, though.
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And you're in NASCAR country, and I assume that you do some NASCAR events once in
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a while, maybe a road trip there or something?
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I like to keep my motorsports interests spread pretty wide, even though I do work for SCCA.
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But at SCCA as a club, we don't do any kind of, we don't do any oval track or anything
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After all, we're doing all sorts of road racing, all sorts of autocrossing as well.
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You know what we do.
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And that there are some road racing events that are actual at designated road racing
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tracks, like that there's one that's south of Houston here that's very popular for road
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And you're probably familiar with it.
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MSR Houston is a good, that's a wonderful racetrack.
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But you also do parking lot events.
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Well, I don't, I don't con us.
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I mean, there are different names for them.
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But for me, they're a parking lot event.
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But I don't want to make it sound like it's something less than what it really is because
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that's my first event was a parking lot event through the cones.
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And let me tell you something, it could be very challenging depends on how it's set
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Autocross is a beautiful place to start.
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I always say speed is low and confidence is high.
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And so when you're running around those cones, you know, a Corvette is going to
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be doing, I don't know, most sort of regional style courses.
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They're going to be doing 60 miles an hour maybe, top down.
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But boy, howdy, let me tell you, that car is on edge and it's fun to drive.
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Autocross is a beautiful way to get started driving.
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And you're really thankful for the course workers because you knock down more cones
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At least at the beginning.
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Well, I try to keep that from happening, but you're right, it does happen.
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And the one that I started with was a first gear only course.
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And that's a great place to start because you're not throwing that car around.
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You don't have to worry about shifting it because, you know, you're not going to
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get it up that high of speed, but it's a timed event.
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So you're out there by yourself.
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SCCA has not to get to spokespersony, which by the way, don't tell my boss you
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call me that because I don't know if that's part of my job description or not.
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But we have a little over 2000 events a year from California to you guys to the
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East Coast where I am.
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We've got anything from, I mean, that's kind of the beauty of the thing is if you
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want to get started in competition timed driving all across the beautiful place to
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start, if you want to go on track, not against the clock, we've got track
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If you want to go on track against the clock, we've got a great Tom
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Charles program that runs, you know, nationally, SCCA has all sorts of
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places to get started.
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We even have a, I'm interested in to know if you guys know what road
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I know you're going to tell us about the road rally program.
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I can tell you about whatever you want.
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Tell me about the road rally program.
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Road rally is a great program.
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That's kind of the joy of driving.
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There's a few different types of road rally, but it's all done on the
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Most common is what's called a time distance rally TDS.
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And it's basically you set off at a time you're given a start time
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and you have to hit certain checkpoints at specific times along
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And they plan this route.
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Sometimes it's about driving through the country.
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Sometimes it's about covering distance, you know, and seeing your
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area of the state or whatever.
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It's cool because you get to drive.
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You can drive literally anything as an old legend about a guy
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who would win his local rallies just every single time
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reliably first place time and time again.
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And somebody said, Oh, well, sir, you own a shop.
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You build cars for a living.
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Of course you're winning.
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And he says, I can come in with a concrete truck and I still I will
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still win this rally.
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And so the next time he showed up, he borrowed his buddy's
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concrete truck and won the rally in that you can do it in quite
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literally anything at all.
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And it's a great way to just enjoy the car that you already
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sounds like he cemented the competition.
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He submitted the competition.
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I actually have to top off guys.
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Let me let me get out of here.
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How much does it cost to join the SCCA?
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And I assume that there's a Houston area chapter.
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So SCCA is broken up into our division.
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And then there are regions even smaller than division.
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So you kind of you're in a division of Texas is in the
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Southwest region, I believe.
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And then you're broken down into regions in there.
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I think there's a few different regions in Texas.
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There's so much land area to cover.
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We have a few different regions there.
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As far as costs, I mean, if you just want a straight up SCCA
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membership, you can be in for $30 a year, really.
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As you go through a license, if you want to go road racing,
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your costs go up a little bit because you have to go through
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that licensing process and get that license.
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I think I'm paying $100 a year, I think, everything for the
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As money as we spend on cars, $100 a year is nothing.
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You find that in the couch.
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You probably find that in the back seat of the car you're
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Yeah, it's not a lot.
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So what do you get for the $30 a year?
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You get a magazine?
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You get information?
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How does that work?
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We have a number of partners.
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We've got a whole bunch of partners that we work with
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that extend certain discounts to you.
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Everything from rental car companies to Summit.
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It has a discount program with us as well for SCCA members.
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You get cheaper access to a lot of the events.
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So what you'll find as you go to, we've been talking about
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Autocross, if you go to Autocross regions, they will have a
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member price and a non-member price and you'll pay the lower
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You get access to any of our events, whether it's road
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racing or not, we're heading into what we call a
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championship season where our road racing, our Autocross
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and our time trials program all have national championship
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And with your membership, you can get into any of those and
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That's one of the things that I wanted to drive home to our
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viewers and our followers is the fact that this is
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something that everybody with a driver's license can do.
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And there's no reason to be intimidated because once you
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get to an event, you're welcome to the event.
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You've got like-minded people, car people there that'll help you
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I don't have any clue what I'm doing.
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And you know that there's every driver that shows up
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there is willing to help and really welcome you in.
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Or if you get to a parking lot event, you're going to
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say, I'd like to do that.
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And then you get your mom's Buick out there.
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And you can get mom.
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Get mom to drive her own car.
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That's the beauty of SCCA is I'm actually a second
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I've been a member since I was born, quite literally
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And my dad had been racing since the early 80s.
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So I'm actually a second generation member.
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I've been around the club my entire life.
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And that is one thing all when I count up all of my
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greatest friends, almost all of them are SCCA members.
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We all have the same disease.
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We just have to get money out of our pockets as quickly
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as we can, I think, is the real goal for that.
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But the beauty of SCCA is you can really choose your
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level of commitment and you can choose your level
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However deep you want to go, we've got something for you.
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What are you driving in the SCCA?
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What is your forte and does your wife have one, too?
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She does not drive.
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She mostly watches me spend all of our money.
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But I am a road racer at heart.
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And so I race in a class called B-Spec.
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And it's aimed at as affordable as road racing can be.
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It's all a subcompact.
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So I drive a 2010 Honda Fit.
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The B-Spec class is comprised of Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Chevy Sonic, base model Mini,
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Fiat 500, all those sort of small subcompacts.
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And we have a pretty modest bolt-on list of parts.
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So you get one of these cars.
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You add a cage and a little bit of safety to it, bolt on some parts, do an ECU tune, and
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you're off to the races.
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And the affordability of the class really is what attracted me to it, personally.
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But I said $200 set of brake pads will last me the whole season.
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So it's a pretty economical way to go road racing.
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Do you drive the car there?
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I've got to pick up truck and a trailer.
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I was wondering if you put it in the bed of the truck or you could have it on the
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Depends on the size of the truck.
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No, but I like the idea of the smaller vehicle because they've got to be a blast to drive.
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I mean, it's like driving go-karts, I would think.
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It's so fun to drive.
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The bolt-on list that we're allowed, it's a spec series or spec class.
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And so we have a set of parts that we're allowed to bolt onto the car.
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Everybody pretty much uses the same parts.
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We all use a Bilstein D-14 coilover kit, so we're all in the exact same suspension.
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We're on the exact same tire.
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The only time it really differs is your choice of brakes.
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And I personally have a rear sway bar on my car and no front sway bar on the front.
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And so some other people make some different choices around that.
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But there it's so it wakes the car up in a way.
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People look at you funny when you tell them you raced on the fit.
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But the between the sway bar and the coilover kit and the tune and the exhaust work
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and the intake work, it wakes the car up.
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It's so fun to drive.
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Everybody's doing the exact same speed, so you don't really feel like you're going
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all that slow because you're doing it, you know, six inches off the other guy.
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It's it's a it's a blast.
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It really is. So this this is a competition that's door to door.
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Yes. Yeah. Road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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When I yeah, that's a good point.
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When I say road racing, I do mean wheel to wheel racing.
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How fun. So do you have capabilities of taking a passenger with you on this
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or is it just a one seater?
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Not in this, not in this, not in not in road racing.
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There are certain there we do have programs where you can have passengers.
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But in wheel to wheel racing, the I'm going to call it risk is enough
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that we do not allow passengers.
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So on the park on the parking lot runs, do you have a teacher or somebody
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to guide you through telling you how to drive the car like an instructor in the beginning?
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You can. We have, you know, lots of regions have autocross schools
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and we can put you in the car with an instructor.
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You can go out and learn.
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We have we actually have a program called the starting line where you can go.
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It is a it is an autocross school.
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It's a multi-day autocross school where we put instructors with you.
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There are classroom sessions.
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We really teach you the ins and outs of autocrossing.
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And and and is there a fee for that?
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No, no, just an entry fee.
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Most autocrosses are, I don't know, between 30 and $100, probably.
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Yeah, because the one that I went on was like that.
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I don't remember the exact price of it, but I had a very talented guy
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that had a Corvette that was set up for autocross.
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And let me tell you something, he spared no expense.
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I mean, you look underneath the car and the suspension work is amazing.
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And you're going, I don't have that kind of money.
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Obviously, obviously he was in a different class when it came down to the timed event.
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But it was an eye-opener with him sitting next to me
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and teaching me where to make the exits of the turns, how to make the apex,
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all of the things that go into getting through the course quicker
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without knocking down half the half the cones.
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We call we call them aliens when they are proper.
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When you go to our championship event for solo is which is autocross
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is coming up in Lincoln, Nebraska in September.
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I think I get on a plane in two weeks now, something like that.
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There are there are people out there who make a car, do something.
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I've doing this all my life.
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Even I cannot believe some of the stuff that they're doing.
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And we call them aliens because the way the the way they can process
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the information coming in with such a quickness and make the car react
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and then make the car do what they wanted to do.
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It's it's incredible to watch.
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Yeah, it's it's it's the whole seat of the pants thing.
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You get feel it in your butt when when it's right, it's right.
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And it takes a little time to learn that to be able to pick it up,
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have the senses go down there and you're thinking, oh, that doesn't feel right.
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And you do it the next time and you make a little correction.
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You do it a little bit better and you think it.
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Yeah, I'm in the right direction.
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And that's what you're talking about.
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Yeah, it's you know, I I go back to that that.
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That parking lot race for lack of a better term.
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And I go back to that.
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I'll never forget it.
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It was a one weekend thing and it was over at the parking lot
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at the Budweiser Brewery here.
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And it had a brand new asphalt and somebody spent a ton of money on cones.
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And we use the whole we use the whole parking lot.
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There were no curb stops in it.
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Obviously, there were parking spaces, but that forget all that.
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We got out there, got lined up and you start talking to people.
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I have never done this before.
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And you know, somebody that can help me.
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Oh, yeah, go talk to Bob and and so go talk to Bob.
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I'll ride along with you.
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There's always somebody there to help you out.
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The fee was nominal.
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It really didn't cost that much.
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You sign a little waiver and off you go.
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And that's why I say autocross is such a good way to get started
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because the commitment level is super low.
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Take your car however it is.
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As long as it's got breaks and it's safe.
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Take your car, pay the entry fees are typically really, really low.
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And you can try it out.
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It's oftentimes you can enter a single day event.
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So if you don't want to commit your entire weekend to it,
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go out there for a Saturday, go out there for a Sunday.
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We have regions who are starting to have events in half day formats as well.
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So if you have Sunday morning, but you don't have Sunday afternoon,
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you can go and do it and you can check it out.
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And you can learn a lot about yourself.
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You can learn a lot about your car.
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And it's a it's a fascinating, fascinating thing.
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There are probably a lot of people that are watching
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or listening to this, following this and going,
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well, I don't want to tear up my car.
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Well, really, you don't tear up your car.
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Well, I don't want to tear up the tires.
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You're not going to do that.
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You're not going to do that.
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Or and that's that's where autocross comes in is it's not only
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is it low commitment and low barrier to entry, cheap to get into.
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You know, the speeds are too low for you to tear the car up in any real way.
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You'll get a little bit of wear here and there.
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But it's it's just not much.
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You're not going to hurt the car at all.
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Blair, Blair, we I'm not going to say that out loud.
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Yeah, Blair, we we we certainly appreciate you taking the time
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to get us all indoctrinated and SCCA.
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Oh, yeah. Let's stay in touch.
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You got a big event you're going to go to.
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Let's call in and have a conversation about it.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'd love that. That'd be great.
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Blair, again, thanks so much.
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Blair Duffin ball with SCCA.
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Thank you, sir. Just ahead. Thank you.
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Jeff has the racing calendar.
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Yeah. And Morris has this week in auto history,
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sponsored by the Texas Muscle Car Club Challenge.
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Thank you for that.
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Hey, listen, NHRA is off to coming back on the 27th.
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Formula One is off and they're going to be out in two weeks coming up.
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IMSA is off for a week or so.
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The Indy Racing League, they crowned a champion last week.
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Award came in second.
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Dixon won the race. No, it wasn't Dixon.
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It was Powell Powell.
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Power won the race last week to end that season.
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So Nascar Crestman Truck ran yesterday.
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I watched a little bit of the time trials.
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Didn't really see the race, but that was yesterday.
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Big crashes. I did not.
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I don't know. I don't have no idea.
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But that was at Richmond.
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The Xfinity Race guys, they are off.
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They're coming back on the 22nd.
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They're going to be in Daytona International
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and there's a lot of hoopla and big event going on there at Daytona next week.
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And then the Cup guys tomorrow are in Richmond.
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It's on USA Network at 730.
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So if you got the channel, be there.
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And like Blair said, support your SCCA groups.
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Go out to your local tracks, have fun, get a hot dog,
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grab a beer, whatever the case.
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They might even let you drive. Who knows?
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The license plate fell off the wall.
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See, we're moving because our house is falling down.
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All right, Mr. Mars, it's time now for this week's auto history.
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This week in auto history found several little informational things
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that seemed interesting.
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For example, in 1897.
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I remember it well.
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The automobile club of Great Britain and Ireland.
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I think you remember number one was founded and established
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as one of the earliest auto advocacy organizations.
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It later became the Royal Automobile Club
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and kind of set a precedent for related social legislative
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engagements worldwide like auto clubs get involved with
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supporting the automotive industry and clubs
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just like we were talking about.
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Also, in 1899, did not know this,
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but Henry Ford actually was working for the Edison Company.
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And so he quit the Edison Illuminating Company
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and to focus on his full time building of his automobiles,
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which is what led to the foundation of the Ford Motor Company.
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I just always assumed that he was with Ford from the beginning
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and he was doing something else.
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Edison is still in existence in Detroit.
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Yes, now it's con in, I believe, a multi-billion dollar thing.
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Also, 1902, this is blew my mind.
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The birth of Felix Wankle.
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We don't normally talk about verse, but the Wankle Rotary Engine.
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You can't say that on any broadcast media
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because he goes directly to FCC.
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Yeah. But that's a Wankle.
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Oh, he's got a cute Wankle.
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And it's a cute Wankle.
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Yeah, I always whenever I always thought about the Wankle Motor,
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I thought it was like in the 60s or something, that somebody came up with this.
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But this was in 1902.
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This guy was born and came up with this motor.
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Just it's an odd, odd thing.
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Yes, it is. You'll go blind if you use that Wankle.
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In 1966, the first Chevrolet Camaro was produced in Norwood, Ohio.
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Of course, this was done to challenge the growing pony car market
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that was done by Ford's Mustang.
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And it literally became a cultural icon right there until the new one
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that I've seen pictures of is going to be like the new Mustang.
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Is that got the V8 in it?
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Is that the V8 symbol?
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Because those are the original hubcaps that the car came with.
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And we thought, golly, those hubcaps are just terrible.
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At the time, they were state of the art.
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I mean, they were, well, they are, yeah, and they're expensive now.
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Also, and the next one, I was this is one of the things
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that I've always wondered about, John DeLorean was acquitted in 1984.
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Now, he was the founder of the DeLorean Motor Company
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and he was found not guilty of drug trafficking charges.
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But the entrapment that followed, they put him in that position.
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It literally ruined his career.
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And I wasn't aware that he was involved with the Nova.
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The G I knew about the GTO and I did not know about the Vega
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as well as DeLorean.
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These are all cars that John DeLorean was involved with.
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They're producing. Yeah. Yeah.
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And if they hadn't run him in the ground, it's a wonder of what he would have done.
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Yes. Just some of the things that we found this week in automotive history.
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Well, I want more, more, more, more.
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How about you have any more?
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I don't have any more pictures because I couldn't find a picture.
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But have you ever heard of the Ford Contour?
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Yes. Yes. And the Mercury Mystique.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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They began production in 1984.
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And it was part of Ford's World Car Initiative,
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but basically the same car.
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They just different badging.
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And that's what they built their World Car thing on.
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And they're gone now, but they were started in 1984.
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Well, that should be part of your cars
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that are no longer in existence in his names.
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So that's this week in automotive industry.
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Well, thank you, sir.
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An insurance company is blaming Nissan North America
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and Newark Delaware dealership
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for an engine compartment fire that caused more than seven hundred
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thousand dollars in property damage.
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The June twenty twenty four fire began in the engine compartment
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of a twenty seventeen pathfinder parked in the owner's garage.
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A neighbor noticed smoke and fire coming out of the garage.
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Alerted the homeowner.
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The fire department put the blaze out,
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but it rekindled less than twenty four hours later,
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according to the Delaware Superior Court
27:08
complaint filed by the neighbor's insurer, Trumbull Insurance Company.
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They quickly spread and golfing the owner's home
27:15
and causing extensive smoke, water and fire damage
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to the next door neighbor's house and a twenty sixteen
27:22
accurate that was inside the garage there.
27:25
The pathfinder had been the subject of a November
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twenty nineteen safety recall notice for twenty sixteen
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to twenty eighteen maximas, moranos and pathfinders.
27:35
The notice warned that the Adiloc break actuator
27:39
may leak fluid that could create an electrical short
27:43
and potentially lead to a fire, according to NHTSA.
27:46
The owner took their pathfinder to Nissan Sheridan,
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which, quote, informed them the required parts were unavailable.
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Sheridan Nissan never followed up, sourced the required parts
27:59
or concluded the repair despite multiple service visits.
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The July twenty eight complaint said insurers complaint
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named Nissan, the dealership and the pathfinder's owner
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as defendants. That does not sound good.
28:15
That's not going to wind up good.
28:17
And it's not unusual for a customer to sue a dealership.
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It's rare to see a dealership sue a customer.
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But that's what happened in New Mexico, where a Chevrolet store
28:27
is taking a purchaser to court over allegedly refusing
28:30
to provide a good title on her trade in.
28:32
In May, Mary Ann Ferry, what a name,
28:36
bought a twenty twenty one Silverado thirty five hundred
28:39
for seventy one thousand five hundred fifty dollars
28:41
from reliable Chevrolet and Albuquerque,
28:43
according to the federal complaint.
28:46
She traded in a twenty one Silverado fifteen hundred
28:49
and received forty thousand dollars minus
28:52
the seventeen thousand seven hundred dollar payoff on her loan.
28:56
After returning over the pickup to Ferry,
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after turning over the pickup to Ferry and paying off her trade,
29:02
the store discovered she didn't have the legal right
29:05
to unilaterally transfer the title.
29:07
The August fourth complaint said.
29:11
The suit characterizes Ferry's alleged misrepresentations
29:14
about ownership as reckless, willful, knowing and intentional.
29:18
It asked for compensatory and punitive damages
29:21
for breach of contract and fraud for knowingly misrepresenting
29:25
her ability to transfer the title.
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So the bank owned it. She didn't. Apparently.
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Well, man. And so she thought she was being slicked.
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I think you call that fraud. I think so.
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That's what they used to call it.
29:42
They don't maybe don't call it that anymore,
29:44
but in my book, it's called fraud. Yeah, I think it still is.
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Well, I've got more headlines and we're going to get to most of them
29:53
coming up in the next hour.
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