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Big DADP hanging out with Camera Chaos and natevb Oh my goodness. So man,
lets bringing me back to Kurt. I kid you not, I swear
that I'm hanging out with Kurt. So Nate is in his chair and for
some reason, his chair today has decided to decide to get a squeak, and so I'm trying to come live on the air, and he's moved around his chairs, chairs going run and I remember, like it had to be what seven years ago, Kurt had a chair that we had in the studio that developed a squeak live on the air, and it wouldn't go away, and it was the loudest squeak. And I was telling Kurt, you guys,
sit still, man like because you could hear everything in a studio.
It was driving me nuts for the whole broadcast and in between the every like commercial break, we were trying to find something to do with a chair so it wouldn't squeak. And so it's like it just brought me completely back.
I started, I started giggling right before we came out of the air, So I apologize because it's funny. Anyway, guys it it's been a crazy
week last week. If you didn't see, we were out and about.
It was a really really good week for us, trying to hold everything down and get out to car shows, trying to fight off the weather. But
once again we managed to tackle it and had a great time. The pitchers
were up, you guys see, what a great, great event. And
here we roll around once again. The bb Memorial Car Show is in effect.
I mean it's we're rolling strong. So right this second it is going
on, so it is not too late for you guys to get your butt out there, weather permitting, with everything. Hopefully the weather is holding off
and everything's great. Um, so get out their huge, huge event.
This is the VB Strong Memorial event to help support and the charity for the mass shooting that happened here in Virginia Beach. And you guys are gonna want
to come on out. So if you have not gotten the chance to get
out there yet, let's right, we're back here in the studio, so we can google ahead and do the show and you guys will find us out there. So uh, like I said, you're gonna want to get out
there. Pack kids in the car, come out there. This is a
great event usually has a huge, huge crowd that we pulled out for that.
And then right after that you have the cruise in. So if you
didn't get a chance to hang out with us at the event, there's a cruise in right after that. And then right after that you have the wheels
and reels I think, and what pulld up what they're showing Maverick, right, isn't that the beliefs believe, right, the new Maverick, the new Top Gun Maverick. Yeah, not the only the already did the old one
there showing the new one. So well, yes, they're playing the second
Top Gun Maverick. So come on and get out there and last so tons
and tons of events. So as I've been telling you guys, and I've
been pushing and pushing and pushing, try and tell you guys, so if you will to do something cool and you want something really really neat to do, we're bringing back drive in theaters and we're doing it out there at Landstown.
We have a setup where you can come and you can tailgate, you can sit in chairs, and you can watch movies just like you used to do in the old drive in kind of set up. It should be a
really great event, something really cool for you guys to be able to do, and we're trying to bring that back, and we're trying to run it through the season. So we're kind of catching a couple of them before the
hot season. Then we'll lay off in the very hot in summer, and
then we're ringing back as we fall towards the end of summer and start running them back again. I think they have one now they add it. I
think they add it one. Howd to look but don't quote me. How
to let you guys know. I think they add it one end of July,
and then we have August, and then we'll have September. October,
we have one of our events in October. No cameras can try to look
up for you. But like I said, we're trying this. It's a
really cool family event. You guys can bring your kids out, like I
said, you can set up your chairs. They have popcorn. We have
something set up with Mulans out there and firehouse subs so you can have food to snack on everything and just sit, relax, meet new people. Man
get out. I keep on telling you guys, keep on getting out of
these events. And hey, big shout out to a lot of our sponsors
have involved with this. You know you have Liberty Transmission, You're gonna have
Speedy Automotive, the hepcat honeys are out there doing some things. There's a
lot of people are gonna be involved with putting all this on. The Car
Club Council of Hand Roads is heavily involved in this. That's a big,
huge club that we belong to, which brings all the different car clubs together.
They keep on putting on these events. So you guys are gonna want
to be part of this event. I'm you can tell I'm really excited for
the fact that we're trying to do this because I like anything that brings family together. So yeah, I mean, load the neighbors kids, load the
neighbors up, you know, put everybody in a van, drive them all down. And as long as you're not trying to get away free candies,
you know, a bunch of kids, you don't know, you're all right, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. But yeah,
definitely cool. You definitely want to get out there. And like I
said, if you're here, not out there listening to us right this second, make sure that you get out here to the VB. Strong Memorial event.
Like I said, it's a lot to see. We put a lot
of effort into it, and there's a lot more shows coming up. Like
I said, make sure you pose with the heppcat honeys, give them a good donation, Like I said, throw some money at the event. Everything
you can. We're trying to collect as much money as we can for this
event. So moving on, I know everybody's been waiting to hear what happened.
If you guys don't remember, I've been kind of keeping along. I
got my first ticket in twenty five years. No party, yeah no,
no, Well, hey, do you want to come join the club?
I don't ca club for those that haven't, don't joke me, man, I got another ticket. I need to go fight. So uh, you
guys guess I've made the decisions on fighting mine. I do. I do
not promote tickets. And here's the thing, as I explained to you guys,
and I'll give you a little quick recap on what happened. So U
back in. What was that was that March? March? March maybe yeah,
maybe March close enough somewhere anywhere, Yeah, I think it was March.
So I got pulled over. The car that I was driving was our
car, and it it was in self drive mode. It was driving,
it was doing the speed limit, and I'm you know, look, if I get a ticket, I tell you guys, I take responsibility for my actions. But the car was in self driving mode. It was obeying the
speed limits. When we pulled the report on the car, the car showed
that it was driving and obeying the speed limit. It was actually going two
miles over the speed limit because it was on a downhill run, so it was doing what it said the speed limit was for the area. But I
will be the first one I tell you on those cars anything, if you use a self driving feature, so as it transitions between speeds as you come through different speed areas. So if you go back up the road we were
at, it was a fifty five and it was coming to a forty five where the speed traps are there in Acclamack County. YEP. I'm going ahead
and call this out now because since since it's done, I didn't give a whole lot of information on it first because I was trying to be respectful.
So as we weren't through Acclamack County, it goes from fifty five to forty five, so as we're coming down and it's not a huge downhill run, but it's a little bit of a downhill, So the car was switching from fifty five to forty five. You can see on the data that we use
where the car had transitions and speeds and everything else like that. The car
was going forty seven miles an hour to forty five miles an hour. That's
two miles an hour, guys. It's not a huge deal. As a
car was making its transition, you can look at the datalog and look where the car had followed the speed and transitions a different speed. That's new technology,
guys. I mean, that's the whole point of having these cars.
These cars drive safe. What is the point of having a car that has
all the new technology in it and it is capable of doing all the things and driving safe? Of having an advanced driving system inside of a car that
can drive safe and do everything it's supposed to. These are safety features.
If you're going to buy a car that has all these safety features in it, what's the point of having them and then being capable of doing all these great things if they cannot be recognized for having these cars with safety features.
So what I mean by that is, so I go ahead and I take my information from my car that's capable of giving me the information. You can
print it out and have all the information. Now, keep in mind,
the car has a the original system inside of it, and then we use a secondary system for the car, which is a complete, separate tracking system that's independent from the car. That is, by the way, a service
that I pay separately as a secondary service. Now, I do that because
I know that the car has its own system, and then a secondary system is a backup system just in case I ever had to prove in the court of law that I have not tampered or anything else with what the car is saying. That way, I have two different forms of proving my case.
So I do that. So I go to court, and while I'm in
court, and I go ahead and decide to show my case. By the
way, here is the caveat to this story, which is absolutely awesome, guys. So as I'm sitting in court, the judge, which nice guy,
I mean, you know, I don't I don't take issue with police officers and or judges, just so you guys know, I very much believe that they are doing their job. If that makes sense. They have a
job to do, and they are doing their job. So if they have
a job doing, they're doing their job. I respect the fact that that's
what they're doing. I know a lot of people take issue with judges and
police officers and stuff like that. I'm just not viewing it that way.
I don't I believe that if you're a you know, a burger flipper or you know, work at home depot or whatever it may be, that's your job. You just go to work and you're doing your job, and you're
just gonna do your job. I don't care if you're a lawyer, if
you're a doctor, whatever, you go to work and you do your job, and we're all just men and women at the end of the day.
If that makes sense, you understand where I'm coming from. That, you
know what I mean. So I don't I don't view you in any different
light other than the fact that you're just a person. So I don't have
any acts to grind with you. So the police officer talks. We all
know how this works. He tells his side, and he says, you
know, and he was. He said, you know, mister Pilots was
extremely respectful when I pulled over, which I was, because I don't have any astaground with you. I don't care. He came up to my car.
I did everything I tell you guys to do all the time when you get pulled over. My window was down, my vehicle was turned in the
off position. I had all my paperwork ready when he walked over the car,
and I had my hands visible where he could see them to make his job easier. That's what I should be doing. So I did all that
stuff. It makes sense to do all that stuff, you know. I
said, good evening to him. When he walked up to my car,
he asked me, do you know I pulled you over? I said,
I don't have a clue, because you're supposed to tell me. Well,
no, because I knew I wasn't speeding. I mean, I was shocked
when he pulled me over. I was just I know, no idea.
He pulled me over for speeding because I knew I wasn't speeding. Then he
informed me that I was speeding. He's like, well your speed, you
were speeding. I got I got you at nineteen miles an hour over and
I went, I don't exactly what I said in that tone not you know, a bad tone, but I went, I don't think so I was like, because I knew differently, I looked down at the car. The
car shows me that I wasn't speeding. I identified it to him. I
said, just so you know, my car is in self driving mode.
It's on, it's locked in it's you can it's locked in and nos this.
I showed him the car knew the speed limit. He ducked his head
kind of looked in. He went, and I think I've told you guys
the story before. I don't just recabin. Just so you know, I've
been doing this for twenty thirty years, I've heard it all. At that
point time, I stopped the conversation with him and said, Okay, we're not gonna get into where. I just wanted to use it to reference it
later on in court. That's the only reason why I was informed him that
he could reference the fact that I informed in the car was in self driving mode. I just wanted it so when I run for sit in court.
Here's the thing. If you don't reference things, guys, then it's hearsay.
To the point of, you know, he can say that we didn't you know, we didn't have that. You know, he doesn't remember having
that conversation. I wanted to make a reference to the point, especially if
a body camera was running, that there was a reference point that we could go that, yes, we did have that conversation, if that makes sense.
So I was just trying to make sure I put my ducks in the road to be able to say in court that I said informed him that it was running, and then he could say, well, we never had that conversation, or he would say, yes, we had that conversation. He
didn't. When I was talking to judge, he didn't say no, we
didn't have that conversation, because obviously he remembered we had that conversation. Not
that I was trying to set him up anything like that. Nice guy.
You know, he's just doing his job. I don't, I don't,
you know, don't care. I'm not trying to. This is one of
those things where people pull cameras up and try to record the police officers.
I'm not that guy. I'm just trying to make a reference point for later
on. When I knew I was gonna be in court, which I clearly
did, it made sense to people to do that, right, So we're doing that. We're yeah, but I look at Cara's hold has killed his
cell phone up trying recording me while I'm talking to you guys. That's pretty
fun. So but that was my purpose of it. So let's jump forward.
I mean court, I'm telling all this to the judge. The judge
says would you have any document proven that you you know you were, And I said, absolutely do Here's the recording from the vehicle. Here's all my
paperwork showing that the vehicle is pinpoint it from the time that I was driving to the time to indicate when he pulled me over, because the you can show when the officer activated his lights, when he pulled me over, the vehicle being pulled over the side of the road, the pen where I was pinned at. Yeah, so I pulled the reports and I can actually see,
like so basically his tracking record shows the exact road and you can drop a PenPoint from one location to another. So like every five minute interments,
it records his speed and it shows me that it took him five minutes to get from one area on the highway and then he came down to a stoplight and you can see the stoplight and it only says he did forty seven miles per hour. By the way, and the first time in the assistant driving
was activated the whole time. Yeah, so I can see and it tells
me that. So like it tells and it shows me the speed limit that
it's following. So obviously it was going downhill because it didn't turn the speed
limit sign red like it would. So's so there's the problem with it is
is so I bring the evidence and I give the evidence to the judge and he's looking over the evidence and he's like, okay, he's like, do you have this? I said, sure, I said, I also have
a travel log shows where I started my trip from, because we were in New York coming back to here to hamp Roads area, and I had not broke over four miles an hour for the whole trip. So you guys understand,
and that's collectively. You don't understand over the whole long trip on a
whole you know, basically, if you take it at it all out, the car had not collectively broke over four miles and the trip from New York to here, he only made sixty eight miles per hour, right, And that's because obviously you're you're on the turnpike and all that kind of stuff.
So you guys understand how it is. There's a little bit more to the
story and it goes deeper, and this is where it gets funny, and laws need to change, and you guys are gonna want to hear this whole tight. I can take commercial break. I'll be right back. You're listening
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back to Let's Talk Cars Radio, your automotive specialist. Now back to your
host, Dave Palatch. Hey, guys, welcome back. So the continuation
of the yeah, that was Nathaniel's chair. I'm just glad. How do
this? Michael? I don't know why else I was make of that noise.
I think it's because this is a camera's chair and he didn't really move.
Remember when I told you I said, Hey, this isn't my chair.
I said, I know, this isn't my chair. I'm sitting tall.
So back back back to the court thing. So is this ain't my
chair? Here's the thing. So I give the judge and like I said,
so remember this guy's because it's crazy that we're this is what we're dealing with. Like, I'm shocked. I'm still utterly shocked because of how this
plays out. So I give him all the stuff. He has the data
loge from the car showing that I wasn't speeding. It clearly shows I was
not speeding. There's no if answer bus about it. There's no question.
Then he has the report showing that the full trip that the car never broke over four miles an hour for the whole trip, right, okay, And it's clearly written. It's not We're not just talking about like a little map
thing. It literally is written out at the bottom that shows the car never
broke over whatever the speed limits were, the car maintained the speed limits.
Okay, So then he has that. Then he asked me if I if
I've had anything, if I've had any the car calibrated. So yes and
no. So I understand where this becomes a little tricky and the car.
You don't do calibrations really on the cars anymore like that. Are everything's digital
on understand I gotta understand if it was an analog sphenometer, but it's digital.
But the answer to that question is yes, I have but no, I haven't. The car had just had a state inspection on it fifteen days
before the trip. If there was a problem with my advanced driving system,
it would have been caught because it's a safety feature. Why it had a
state inspection. You would have had lights on indicating that it wasn't working.
You know what I mean, that something was wrong with that feature, and it would have been caught and I would have been told about it during that inspection. Okay. He informs me that that's not required within a stafety within
a state inspection, you know, for VA state inspection. I respectfully disagreed
with him. And you're in front of a judge, so you're trying to
be right. But did you did you? I said, I acknowledge the
point that this is the field that you're in. Yes, I said,
I explained to him when I explained my qualifications, I said, well, I respectfully disagree with you. I said, although it's not required withinside a
states state inspection, it is for the fact that that is a safety features.
And I had they found something wrong during state inspection where my you know, self driving features were not active, they would have informed me and there would have been some type of documentation withinside the receipt telling me that that something needs to be done. Consider the fact that it was done at a triple
A location, right, you know what I mean? They're not gonna put
back on the road and say, hey, by the way, you know, when your safety features aren't working and one of the most vital ones on a self driving car is not functioning correctly, and have a nice day, you know. I mean, that's just not going to happen, guys.
And he says, that's that's not viable, it's not acceptable evidence in this court. Which did you ask what he was looking for? Then he's like,
you would have had to have it taken to a calibrations center and make sure it was calibrated. I said, well, you're not really gonna you
wouldn't calibrate this right right, there's no, there's nothing to calibrate. But
there is, so everybody, if you've never heard the term you form you use it on the show, But you're talking about the AIDOS system. Advanced
driving System is your AIDOS system. You do have to make sure nowadays,
and I know that they are doing it, that your AIDOS system is calibrated.
If I've told you guys, before even changing a windshow wiper on a vance driving system, you have to make sure that the calibration has not been shifted on it, because a car drives by the light ar and a camera system. Okay, so people and technicians are being trained in this nowadays and
know that you have to make sure that that light is still on track, is still functioning. So yes, I can tell you right now, if
you are messing with a car that has a self driving system, you're making sure you did not mess anything up while you're messing with that car. Our
car is equipped with that. As X try to explain to the judge,
and he argued the point with me as if it's not and they're not having doing it. I'm like, no, they are for the fact that it's
not on the Virginia lawbooks yet of and that's just how it reads. Rather
I'm right or I'm wrong, guys, or you're right or you're wrong.
The Virginia lawbooks are not written yet for them have to recognize these cars being as smart as they are yet, and it doesn't matter. Unfortunately for me
that I am one hundred percent right doesn't matter. And he's arguing on the
knowledge that he has okay. So the only problem with that, though,
is is that it sounds like he's getting his conclusion from the fact that he doesn't know if it's adjusted or not right, but he's he's he's arguing.
But my question would be, is okay, if I did get it inspected, if it was cabureted or not, would that affect your decision then well?
And that's so that's the question leaves me because I've done everything that I to do with being a car guy understanding how an AIDOS system works on a car. Okay, I know Truyota would have Toyota's car would have automatic and
car and it had I known that that was such a big deal. My
car was at Toyota within fifteen days before my trip, and I know Toyota went through everything because it was just there. Had the oil change, had
a tire rotation. If you take the tires off, you mess with the
tires and stuff. You also take the chance when you mess with the alignment
of messing up the AIDOS system. It's clearly written that it's written if they
touched the tires or making the tires to absolutely a rate the AIDS. So
I am I know I'm one hundred percent right on this, but it's not written into the books yet, where a judge court a law who may not be a gear head or a car person understands because it's not written into law yet. So since it's not written a law clearing precise for him to understand,
he cannot recognize it in Virginia state law and make a ruling in my favor because it's not written into law yet. Even though I brought all this
stuff with me, it doesn't really makes no sense because you don't have to prove that it works. You just you have information that show it's not written
into law. Since it's not writing the law, he he runs by the
written law of Virginia only really recognize that. But I got you and so,
but you're showing evidence upon what the case. So let me go,
let me go, what what are you going to write in the law book to let that it has to be written in law? What does though,
that that that in Virginia State law that it is aidoss and all that kind of stuff is inspected. So you have to have you have to have it
showing that it is in Virginia state law. They're gonna when the cars state
inspect or something like that, that they're gonna check the aid of system to make sure it's calibrated, or that's what I'm saying that now. But he
deliberated the case on that he doesn't know if it's calibrated or not. But
that's not what the case is about those about speed. Okay, So that's
my burden approof to show. I was using that that the car had just
been inspected at number one because he asked me for calibration. How do I
know that your systems calibrated? Right? How do I know that your advanced
driving systems working? Course, that's why I gave you a second piece of
information. It has nothing to do with system number two, all right,
So like I could argue pretty well inquiry all right, son, you know so obviously, So here's the thing. Let's back up. So it's like,
all right, so you say that, so let me now ask you this right right right? So you got pigeon all these people sometimes and he
did. He backed me right up in a corner because I said, okay,
well you have the other burden approof. I was like, here's I
give you all the stuff. He goes Virginia state law does not allow me
to let you enter into evidence any piece of material that's GPS, GPS driven or recorded. And since my secondary system and the primary advanced driving system data
records using a GPS drip in system, it's not allowed in court either, because that's how smart cards works. And so what you're saying is everybody just
needs cameras in the car. Well, no, it doesn't matter because all
that even that, but it because it's wired to a GPS driven systemsiness going is going back out to satellite and coming back in, and it's basing that information and it's pulling it, and it's hooked to a GPS driven system because that's how it's pinpointing the car and as it moves along, and how it's keeping track of how fast you're going based on a GPS platform, which it really isn't because it's using Wi Fi. Right, But because there's no law
written yet that these smart cars that run on self driving systems and because they're hooked to a computer that's using GPS and wireless technology, and there's no law written that allows you to enter documentation improof to prove your case that allows you to use that type of information. My information I brought hold on, my
information that I brought with me was not allowed to be evidence in court.
Let me ask you, did you ask about Okay, well, how do you know if the fellow officer's gun was calibrated or if his was calibrated because before, Because then if you can't prove to me, then you can't prove that I'm wrong either. It's a it's a wishy watching. I know I
know enough to go that far. But the gentleman in front of me asked
for a calibration report on the light ar that he used, and he was able to present it, so I knew not okay. He was already knew
I would here he had in movie. I was gonna ask, and I'm
glad I didn't because you're just You're just ask for it, which was a lawyer. It was pleading case for somebody that was there. He said,
can I please see the calibration report on the lighter and the officer was they were pulling it out in hand. I'm like, okay, I know in
the first time. The first guys had that question, right, so I
knew not to ask that question, and I knew they were gonna ask me for mine, right, because mine's a light mine hands light on it.
So I knew as soon as I said, so, if you would have got a calibrated here's the ahead time, do you think it was favored in you you're not calibrating my light ar you understand, there's no, you're not calibrating. You're showing that it works. Obviously, no mine works because when
my car was was from an inspection, it wasn't. There was no There
was nothing saying that my my advanced system didn't work. There was noe.
So did he say did he say at all if you would have had some evidence of it working, that he would have favored in your style. He
didn't. He just said that all the information that I brought and I was
trying to use, which I proved my case, I proved my case, but none of my materials allowed in the law because it's not written to law to allow that information yet, because the cars are too advanced and no law has changed yet. Then my question would be like, well, how can
you right, how can you prosecute me on old law right? Right?
When you like you're ear acting like this is that it's old car, right, My obviously, guys, our cars are too advanced, which I already told you guys, I've been talking about this. How Cameron, how many
years am I talking about this stuff? I've been talking about this for years.
I said that law isn't written yet to accept all self driving cars, and we're gonna run to this problem the laws. We're gonna we're gonna run
into the problem where we're trying to use the We're trying to use all the information the cars given us, but yet because the law is not written yet, and that's why they're scared of That's the reason why they're scared of self driving cars, because there's no laws to govern the cars. The cars there's
too smart, quicker than the laws can catch up. I said, well,
this was gonna happen, and here I am with it happening to me, So you should be like, right here, you can take a stand and make a president. That's funny. So he literally said that if you
guys haven't figured out why I'm wearing the shirt that I'm wearing today, if you're if you're watching them on Facebook, if you're not watching on Facebook and you're just listening on the stream, or you listen on podcasts. The shirt
I have literally has sorry You're wrong written on it, and there's a reason why I was wearing it. That's the reason why the title of the show
is what it is. And I know, guys, I got to take
quick commercial break. When we come back, we'll jump in a little bit
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Now back to your host, Dave Palach. Hey, guys, welcome
back. All right, So you've been falling along which telling me about my
my tragic court case. I'm not even got a ticket after twenty years,
twenty five years, and it is now on his record. Go look him
up, Go look him up. It's now on the look. I think
you think it's funny, but I don't. I don't find the humor in
it. Like, here's the things years if I did something wrong, like
cool I did something wrong, Like the fact that I didn't do anything wrong, and like I said, I'm not even man that he showed up, he had evidence and they still didn't take it. I feel like I'm not
mad at all. I'm just I'm just I'm disappointed in the way that the
system works. Um. You know, Nathanie asked me on the commercial break.
He said, uh so, you know, did you like ask ad judge to rethink his decision? And I and I did so he got done
talking. Because I'm always just respectful. I like to be respectful because it's
the right way to handle it people. I've seen people get mad and stuff
like I just don't do that. And he got I've done talking. And
he told me the reason why he couldn't consider my evidence or whatever, and I did. He got done talking. He said, do you have anything
else? And I said, you know, would you rethink even with the
evidence. I know that by law, I guess you can't consider the evidence.
But you've seen it, You've heard what I've had to say. You
can obviously look down at the evidence and know that. I mean, it's
there. Rather the law lets you consider it or not. You can obviously
consider my story, right, I mean, that's you know, he's not the officers not disputing anything, but you, as a judge, says the president. You know what I'm saying. So right, why don't you be
the first one to recognize you, to recognize the you know, the president change here and the change of what's happening. Because okay, I got it,
But why don't you be the first one? Said? So? I
asked, you know, I did, I said, And then I could see that he it seemed like he was he switched to being just maybe he's just a little annoyed because he's he paused, he kind of pushed himself back and seat, and then he leaned forward and he kind of like turned his head and he was he was like, I made my decision, and at that point in time, I knew and I just kind of put my hands up and I went fair enough. You think it because it was such a
small charge, that's the reason why he didn't want to mess with it.
It could be you think that he was just like you, you should just pay your two hound dollars. Maybe that's what it is. But for me,
it wasn't a small charge. A guys, five years of me driving
the way you should the way you should beating off. Have I deserved a
ticket for maybe and have not got it? Absolutely? I'm not gonna say
I'm not. I'm not perfect by any means. I mean, you would
be almost seventy until again. But twenty five years is a long time to
go. And and what did you ask him to uh to use your record
as clarity? Yeah, I told me it's been twenty five you're Innaclingmack County
guys. If that says anything, And I'm not I'm not trying to down
them or anything like that. But they generate a lot of money. It
is, I mean they don't. They generate a lot of money others being
tickets. Just is what it is. The officers take the judges out toy
because they're going to play golf right outdoords. I just like I said,
it is what it is. I thought you're gonna start the story off with
the officer was the judge's son. I've been in towns like that. I've
I've I've been in towns like that. I told you about some places I've
lived that were even worse than those. Those stories are what they are.
But like I said, I just, um, I'm disappointed. I'm not
mad. I'm disappointed because I had burden and proof. My burden approof was
not allowed to be used, and I kind of felt like it just didn't want to be It felt it fell upon deaf ears, and I just think that we need to change that for the judge. If you're listening, you
heard what my radio show was. I told you about it. You.
I hope you're listening, and I think that easy mystery. Maybe I should
send you a copy of it, this this one so you can listen to it. If you're not, um, we need to maybe you should be
a better advocate, and maybe you should work a little harder to change some things so this doesn't happen. Because this is I'm not gonna be the first
and I'm definitely not going to be the last this has happened to. The
burden of proof was there. You can obviously see the car was traveling at
the speed. And here's so here's one of the things that I'll tell you
that irritate me a little bit. So I understand how lightar works. And
he was trying to explain to me that I was wrong on how lightar works.
I'm not so lightar when you shoot lightar. So, first of all,
lightar, if you guys don't know, it's most accurate at closer ranges.
Okay, it's starts to kind of break up the further it goes out.
It's max's distances a thousand feet if you guys don't know, Just in case you ever need this for court, I know, I've known this forever.
I've taught the boys, you know a lot about how it works.
So lightar shoots a beam and it's out. It's a little pinpoint beam,
and at thousand feet it's not very accurate past a thousand feet. The distance
that he hit me at was about eight hundred and nine feet, I think is what he hit me at. So at best it's already getting close to
its most outreach outreach as it is, okay, lighter Also, it's accuracy as far as pinpoint thirteen inches to the left, thirteen inches to the right, you know is outside of it if it's reached. Okay, So when
you pin it on something, if anything, And this is where he's like, no, that's not the way it works. It is, it's been
proven. I understand you can read a bunch of stuff up on it,
and so have I. I've also watched where this has been tested and it
has had some failure rates in it. Does it feel all the time,
know it doesn't, but best conditions. So you guys gotta understand everything has
tested in best conditions. Best conditions. Okay, so not with glares of
lights of cars and all that kind of stuff. All a lot of different
things make differences and things, and like I said, and we can argue upon this all the different time. But I've watched a lot of different reviews
where they've tested it in all different types of conditions and stuff, and where there's been some some problems when you shoot it. If you're trying to pin
an object, when you shoot it, it's just grabbing the object where you try to pin it. Now, there's human error in everything. I'm not
saying nothing on the officer don't have no access to grind with or anything like that. But when you shoot it and you pull the trigger, if you're
pinning on an object and there's a larger object moving at a higher rate of speed, it can and will try to grab that larger object. Sometimes in
my defense when I was pinned, because I know how it worked for me.
There was a car in front of me, Okay, it was traveling in front of me, about two car lengths in front of me, and the side of me was a very large tour bus that was blowing by me.
And I have video of the tour bus as well. So if I'm
driving at nineteen miles an hour over the speed limit, there's car. This
is just simple, Matthew. That's the reason why we do math in high
school. Guys. If there's a car two car links in front of me,
and there's a tour bus on the side of me blowing by me and going past me right, and I'm going nineteen miles hour over the speed limit, and a y you're gon be going really fast and you pin me.
No, just this is simple, just simple. If you just draw this
out and you pinpoint and you draw lines of how this works, I would have had to swing out until I was in the right hand lane. I
would have had to swing out into the left hand left hand lane to avoid from smacking into the car in front of me. If I'm going nineteen miles
an hour with speed limit, right. Well, that's why I tell people
all the time. I'm like, you know, at twenty miles if Peter
don't really have at twenty miles, you're passing cars. You you are four
past cars at you know you're you're going past cars at a pretty good clip.
Okay. So, as a judge once told me, you know when
you're speeding and when you're not speeding. If you're flying past cars, you're
probably So keep this in mind. If I'm going nineteen miles now let's just
call it twenty because but nineteen miles an hour with the speed limit and there's a car two car lengths in front of me, I would have had a whip into the left hand lane to keep from smacking into the back of it, which I couldn't do because there's a tour bus fly and buy me on the side of me when you pin me. As you said, there's it's
impossible. I would have went right up the rear end of the car in
front of me, because he was only two car links in front of me at twenty miles an hour. The gap distance that I would have closed in
on him, I would have went right at the back of him. And
the police officer would have been like, Holy Kyle, look at this crazy driver, and I would have had a slam on the brakes or something, and I would have been I would have been right in his rear end with no inches behind him. I mean, none of that happened, because none
of that's reported. You know what I mean, Like that didn't happen that
you know. That's you understand I'm trying to say, so right right,
just like my speeding obviously didn't happen. It's just my point. Nothing against
the officer. I believe when he pulled the trigger to try to pick me,
it grabbed that bus. It didn't grab me because that bus and I
have video of it was flying past me. I think when he pulled the
trigger, it grabbed the bus, it didn't grab me. Yeah. Fortunately,
there's no there's no evidence. I have video, but you couldn't bring
it. You can't bring yourself on in the show video. There's no cell
phones lit in court, else I would have had that as additional no sense.
So it's just like I said, I'm not mad, guys, just soon understand. I'm just very disappointed in the way the court system works because
you can't enter. Any of the stuff that your car building, all the
safety equipment in is not is not being recognized in the course how much?
How much? I really when I had to go to court, I wanted
to print out all my photos and big poster boards and walk in with like one of those construction things and set it up and be like you want to hit a button? I got something to make the music and goes no,
I'll have firework crackers on the back of it, be like like you're in like an old eighties concert with a little flame thing. I'll walk up to
the officer if a mic and be like mic drop, that'd be great.
No, I just like I said, I mean, we're not trying to harp on it. But I thought it was interesting that we talked about on
the show today because, like I said, there's no way this is the first time this has happened, and I know it's not gonna be the last time it's happened. And it's just so when when you're in court, things
are so just so matter of fact from the from the judges and the court side of things, you have to everything is so matter of fact. No,
it's what it is is it seems like when they say you're prove you're innocent until proven guilty. No, you are guilty and proven innocent. It's
just looks and it seems like whatever the officer said. And look, I
love every officer out there. I always support the blue except one guy.
But you know what I'm talking about. But it seems like when I go
to court, or when we go to court, whatever the officer says is true until proven unless you can absolutely absolutely prove that he's wrong. And then
anything that we say we're wrong until proven right, It is, guys, and it's that's the most annoying thing. Hey, guys, I can't believe
we blew through that. I gotta go ahead and take another commercial break.
When you come back, we'll sum this up. I got a couple things
I want to talk to you guys about as well, So hold tight and I'll talk to you soon. You're listening to Dave Colach on Let's Talk Cars
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Dave Watch. Hey guys, welcome back. So this is the story
of Dave's speeding ticket. Uh, how it just doesn't always go your way.
How it just doesn't really go your way. It doesn't matter what I
say, but I could say, uh, sorry, you're wrong. I
mean that's just kind of how I feel about it. Like I said,
no hard feelings. Um, like I said, I'm not mad, like
I said, I just kind of I really am just kind of disappointed because I really feel that we've gotten to the point when it comes to tickets and you guys as you guys know, you know the boys that got tickets as they grew up, and I had to go to course to judge. I'm
not mad, I'm just disappointed. Well really would have changed anything? Yeah,
yeah, Hey, I just think we need a different way approaching things.
I feel as if we go to court, we don't fight the officer.
I feel like the officer should have to meet with somebody else explain his story, and then he's the mediator that comes to court, and then you have to judge is really supposed to be he supposed to be non biased, but I just kind of feel like we're not. It's not non biased.
Does that make sense? I feel like you are one hundred percent guilty and
to prove it innocent. Because the police officer talks first, he says it,
and then he says, what do you have anything to add to that?
Wait a minute, do I have anything to add to that? It's
not add to it? You should. We wanted to hear what I have
to say, not add to it? Does that make sense, right?
I mean they do. They all use the same line because they sometimes I'm
I've heard definitely. Hey, if you guys haven't seen the photos before,
you know, I just feel like that's kind of like, you know where we are with it. It I just okay, So I've known that.
I feel like the system has been broken for a while. And I don't
mean that as a slight to any police officer or any judges or anything like that. It's not a slight. I just I feel there's a different,
in a better way that we can handle it. Whoever's on the other side
has to really fight, right, and this isn't new, guys, it's not like we're talking about something that's new or it's something that we do emails and messages like Dave, this isn't new. I know, this isn't new.
I think it's just something that we all go through that we're all really I want to say afraid, but don't want to touch up on it because they just t tackle it. Yeah, because they know there words. You're
only going to go to one place and that's about it. I mean,
that's what is. It goes to one point. I just the fact that
I go. You know, I don't have to go to court a whole
bunch of times, but I did have to. Like I went with the
boys when they were younger, and I usually did very very well in court.
I'd say I have a pretty good track record. We're going with them
because you could present evidence and as long as you know how to present it as the right manner, usually if you get the judge, they'll listen to you. I'm not saying I didn't get the right judge this time. I
just think he was ill informed on some of the ways some of this new technology is and the fact that if you go right by the letter of the law, I understand that they don't let you present some of the stuff as evidence. But but it wasn't really proving me wrong. It was just saying
that my evidence isn't sufficient enough for you. Well, here's which is kind
of proved me right. You could have looked at that and said, okay,
so there's here's evidence here obviously saying exactly what you're saying is truthful.
Your account of the events are truthful. You could say, okay, I
can't. I can't enter that into evidence. But your account, your account
of the of the evening, this collaborates. I can't take it in evidence,
but I can definitely say it collaborates your account of the evening. So
I don't know. That's just where I'm at with it. I was meant
to say something double barrels loaded, and all of a sudden, figure nothing happened. I saw it. But like I said, you guys, Like
I said, you guys, tell me what you guys think, because I just think that we're way behind on it. Um. I had a story
that got sent to me this week, and I thought it kind of felt fell in line with what we're talking about. Do you guys see the new
thing? It's not. I've seen a couple different times, but it's becoming
really popular where people are drawling around the tesla's with chalk, yeah, and seeing what the tesla's would do no, whether they're like no, they're they're like tricking the censors where they're making it think that there's something around it, well so they can't drive, and then they're doing like crazy messages like you think you're too good for people and stuff like that, like basically tesla shaming people, which is weird. So the Karen's found something else that could plain
a bit. I hate that term, but yeah, that's basically Susan's.
Used to be called Susy. The term Karen's. We went from feel bad
for people actually have the name Karen that are nice people, So I kind of feel bad. I think that's weird, I understand, but you also
got to think it used to not be Karen. It used to be called
Susans. I don't know, yeah, old uh old lady Susan's. Yeah,
I used to say that all the time. Really, so like I
feel like name caring that it might be a nice person. Now it's kind
of funny because I do know some Karen's that like it fits them, which is that even weirder too? You're like, wow, why how is it
that your name's Karen and that really kind of fits? But maybe but not
all Karen's. I mean, I'm just saying, but I just why why
do people? Why do people care so much what you drive? Like if
you have the money to go buy yourself a self driving car and it's cool and and maybe that's what got me in trouble, was that we had a nice school car that has that technology. And maybe the judges hated the fact
because he's not he's not a self driving car guy. Maybe it a term,
isn't it a term? Sally Susie, Sally Susie, Yeah, Susie
sur Susie or maybe I don't know. I feel like, well, that's
like another thing that bothers me. Why are and that's gonna sound mean,
but why are all judges just up in their age? No? This this
guy was and I would say this guy was probably in his early fifties.
And by the way, so I ran into him in the parking lot to make sure I was in the right place when I got to court, because their courthouse is kind of smaller courthouse, right I wasn't sure I was in the right place, and so it just so happened to be the guy that I asked if I was in the right place, and he was very nice.
He was like, yeah, this is the place. You go through
the front door and it's downstairs. You'll find it pretty very nice guy.
Like I said, he's just a guy, like you know, that's why i'm you know, I mean, there's just people. So he was.
I just I think in his in his defense, by the letter of the law, I understand the laws written, he's gonna go and he's not gonna deviate from that, and he's made his decision. Now get out of my
courtroom. Like, now, go back up the stairs. I know I've
never understood that too. Why do you have to walk out the courtroom to
be able to get to the County clerks office? Right there's Convenia there's right
there. So there's pretty not Virginia Beaches, I mean Virginia Beach. Last
time, as your gifin, I had to pay your big one. Uh
it was right there. You came out, sir, and uh, you
around the corner and it wasn't too far away. It's still pretty clol because
you went downstairs and on your way out the door the payoffices right there.
The only biggest one was seven hunt eight right right. It was big enough,
buddy. But anyway, like I said, it's it's it's just it's
one of those things guys, Like I said, back to the Teslas, So you took about things I don't. I don't. I don't know why
people keep on messing with Tesla people. The fact I saw one something something
that picture that's going on internet right now where they were like a bunch of mean things around the Tesla and Choco. So first of all, are you
carrying chalk? Like do you have chalk like in your trunk? Got kids?
Maybe just so you can, yeah, but just so you can draw things around Tesla's Like like when you see one and mean things around. I
still understand, Like why you do that? It starts. I okay,
No, I don't know about walking out a people's houses and just drawn park stuff like when they're parked on the wall and stuff like that. They're they're
drawing around. Look, I'm not you're not able to like, so if
you're all a line a certain way, the car will think there's something in front of it and not allow the car to pull out of the parking.
That's funny, that's not it's just it's messed up, but it's funny, but funny, you find it funny kind of. He's like, I don't
know, man, Well, I magine you just trying to go home.
You're like, why aren't well this thing back up? You're like, what
is that weird line? You probably won't notice, don't even like when car
is broken you call on Triple A just find out. I didn't think about
that way. I don't know. Oh, that reminds me, man,
Thank thanks for saying that. Um, what about what do you guys think
about like these tesla's and everything in the electric vehicles? What do you think
the fire departments are going to have to change about it because they can't put water on it. Yeah, they're already running of that problem. I don't
know. There is some solutions for that, but they still some aren't caught
up today yet. I mean, because let's be on some of this like
out here in the country. It's not like we have a whole bunch of
them right probably like some foam I'm guessing like a phone can. They're gonna
have to get up with it. I don't know. Guys, tell us
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we posted. Get out there, watch a drive in movie. It's a
really cool event. We want to start packing that. I want to see
hundreds of cars to come out to that event and pack it in a really cool event. So look for all the different postings of those. Like I
said, BB Strong is still going on for a while and they got the cruise in so come out, don'tate some money. All that goes to the
real fun for the mass shooting out here in Virginia Beach. So make sure
you guys come out and spend a little bit of money. That look all
yearlong for all the different events is going on with the Car Care Counsel and seven five seven Auto Events and truly us as well. You'll see us pop
at all different events throughout Hanton Roads, So keep an eye out for us.
We love when you guys come out and hang out with us. We've
hit a lot of great events. The season has just started. So on
that note, like I said, a lot of different things going on.
I don't think I'm missing anything. Have I got it all that's going on.
I checked out seven five seven Auto Events for all the updates. Yep,
yep, definitely check out Mark Like I said, that's going on.
There some other stuff I want to talk about, but I mean I can't remember. I think if I forgot anything, I will update you guys as
time goes on. Like I said, we've got a lot of things going
on. I got lots of stuff on my mind. I go a little
bit of migraine today. I think I did pretty good trying to get through,
but man, it has beat me up. So we're gonna keep on
pushing on. But like I said, make sure you come out and you
see us and spend some time with us. All these different events we're gonna
be out there on that. No, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and
I'm gonna get out of here. We're gonna push on and try to have
a great weekend. Make sure that you guys unplug once again. Enjoy your
Saturday. Sunday's right around the corner. Spend some time with your kids.
Hide their cell phones, put them running the cushions, play a board game with them, fire up the grill, have some burgers, have some food.
Enjoy your time with your kids. It goes by fast. Guys that
keep on telling you that note r out of here, and I'll end up talking to you soon.
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