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Let's brew! What's going on Car Guys and Car Gals? It's Lou Ramirez and it's Fred Lenards and we
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are Brewing Solutions on the CarGuy Coffee Podcast. Excited to be brewing with you and in the end of
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2025 we are really getting live with some awesome awesome friends and we are so excited to bring
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you this entirely new show. Welcome to Dealer Pay Live! Yes we are excited. This is a new show. It's
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going to be a monthly show that you're going to be seeing dropped around this time of month every
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month. We'll have a full schedule for the year coming up soon so to share with you all keep
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in mind that we may have to make alterations throughout the year in case things happen you never
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know. Our allergies all kinds of crazy stuff may go down. Travel delays so just be aware that we're
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going to make sure that every month we update it to make sure that it is going to be that day so be
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looking for that very soon. Super excited. But folks it is holiday season right now. It's Christmas
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time. It's the holiday season. It's the new year coming up so people got new goals new ideas and
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they're ready to go to the new year. If you're an automotive we're looking forward to the next big
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show. The NADA show. The biggest show of the year literally the automotive Super Bowl. So I'm super
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excited about that. I'm super excited to bring on our new co-host right. We're going to be having
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fun with her throughout the year. We're going to be hanging out with them. I'm sure you guys will
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see us in our pictures and all our stuff as we do our travels. They're based out of St. Louis
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where she is. I'm excited. They've teamed up with some really great companies over the last couple
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months years really and they're just building something big right now to bring to you dealers
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to make sure that your clients have access to better ways to be able to buy and I'm excited.
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And today's show is a huge topic. It's a massive topic. It's all about customer experience and
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one of the things and one of the places we actually got to meet our co-host is at this event. It was
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now is non-negotiable and I love that it's a it was hosted by Katie Mayers and our good friend
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Allison Rank and it was a great place to be. It was in Denver, Colorado. There was people there.
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There were speakers there and it was all talking about how to treat people and how to make sure
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that they feel something that they've never felt anywhere else so that they get an experience that
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price just exceeds everything. It doesn't matter. They're like, oh, experience was so good that the
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price doesn't matter anymore. And that's literally what we want to make sure every customer feels
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because everyone thinks, oh, it's about the price. No, it's not. It's about how they feel.
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So, well, we are all about making sure that people do enjoy how it is that we feel and we
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got to get this cafe filled up with some serious solutionaries that are ready to feel something
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special because once again, it is the holiday season. So that's one of my favorite Christmas
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lines. I absolutely love that line. I'm excited about that. But right now we are pumped up because
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yes, it did always just come down to numbers. All right. All right, then you need to have a smooth
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way to pay. And we're going to talk more about that and about this solutionary that's bringing
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this forefront solution to the industry. And we are really excited about it. But remember,
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this show is not about perpetuating problems. It's about brewing solutions. That's right. And
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we are pumped up for this guest, our new co-host of the show to jump in with us. So help us to make
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welcome from Dealer Pay, the one, the only Julie Douglas. Welcome to the party. Hey, so happy to
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be here. Look at you looking all festive, folks. I love it. Christmas time is here. I got to just
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say, look, we got to put up so that everybody's feeling it right now. I know that I'm feeling
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the season. I have so much gratitude in my heart and I'm just happy to have family around me right
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now to be able to share this time of year with. We all have blessings that we should be thinking
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about whether you thought it was the best or not. There's so many things to have gratitude for
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and I have gratitude for you too. I'm so excited to have this show started and excited to share
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this with the whole world. Let's go. Let's go. Welcome to the party, Julie. For those that do
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not know inside of our audience who it is you are, what it is that you do, go ahead and give us
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about maybe a two to three minute brew on you. Sure. So my name is Julie Douglas, president,
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CEO of Dealer Pay. Sometimes referred to as the sales lady extraordinaire, but I founded this
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company just under 15 years ago and so excited to continue growing it. Dealer Pay is a payments and
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point of sale slash financial platform and what we do is only for dealers. So we work with them
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on various levels and all their departments to make sure payments flow, workflows are in check
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and ultimately they get paid. I love that. Absolutely love that. One of the things that I
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know in your heart when it comes to just getting back onto that customer experience thing,
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to talk a lot about workflow and how important that is. I'm looking forward to dig more into that,
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how things are being passed around in between team members to make sure that experience is
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so smooth because when there's a smooth workflow, the customer feels it and they know that there's
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no kink in the armor and I love that. Absolutely. You bring that up because everyone always thinks
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it's about, hey, giving somebody a coffee, right? That's part of it. It is. Don't get me wrong.
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That workflow matters so much having that confidence of being able to get people from
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one step to the other. It's like a good transmission, but you could tell when it's bad,
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right? So if it has a good workflow in a sense, it's smooth. It gets right through and you get
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to the next gear and you just keep moving. I love it. Getting to the next year and keeping
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things moving is something that has to be intentional for any business. Simple, we encourage everybody
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when you're trying to set up an atmosphere for your customers, setting that experience up as
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professionals. We have to make our job or make their job of actually acquiring what they want
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easier. That's why people deal with this, but where we did get the chance to meet was discussing
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about that experience. Where is it that you feel like so many dealers actually get that experience
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wrong? That's a great question. I think there are just too many products and too many departments
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that aren't connected. The customer, they don't know what systems that the dealership has in the
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background. All they know is how their experience was. If that particular user or let's just say
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workflow, then ultimately they're struggling to make the user experience as optimal as it
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could be. I think what's exciting about what we've done over the last 14-ish years is we've
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showed dealers, there's something else out there that they didn't know existed and it really is
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helping to connect the systems and make the workflow faster, easier, more productive, all those good
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things. It's like a good brew, right? You get a good sip of coffee in the morning. You're like,
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yes, I agree. We appreciate you dropping really a special brew for people today
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and bringing this information. This show was created so that you can help people be able to
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see the light in a sense. You want to keep giving. This is your gift to the automotive industry,
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your gift to dealers, your gift to so many people. I'm excited to be part of that gift.
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The energy matters inside of that. When it comes to a workflow, it's a real driver and customer
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experience. Why is it such a big driver? Let's be honest with you. Let's even talk about the
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month of December. It's frustrating for customers already to know they have to deal with a vehicle
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repair, for example. They're in the dealership. If their experience while they're there in an
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intimidating month as it is not optimal, then I think it really does escalate all the way through
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the experience for them. If they're going to come back, how they're going to manage it,
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are they going to spend the money? There's just so many factors that go with customer experience.
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I have been lucky to be in this industry for a very long time. I've dealt with all the departments
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from the front of the house to the back of the house and even the accounting pieces. I think
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what a lot of people in the dealership space miss is what that interaction is with the consumer
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and all the little baby details that go into making it as best as it can be. Again, when you
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talk about systems, and there's a ton of great systems out there. I've been lucky to work with
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some really great SaaS and software operators, but you know what? A lot of them are singular
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solutions and they don't flow. If you've got, for example, one system here and you have an
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antiquated payment solution and you have to walk that customer down the hall around the corner to
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the cashier's office to make payment, and then maybe there's a line or maybe there was something
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wrong on the repair order. Now we got to go back to the advisor. This one person's going to the
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bathroom or they're at lunch. All of those reasons, yeah. Yep. So I just think that in modern times
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with all the technologies we have, it's important for dealers to embrace systems that make them
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more productive, efficient, because that's what the customer is going to feel. They don't see it.
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They're going to feel it from the experience they have. Wow. I love how you described that
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December is a month that reveals a lot about that experience for a customer and it truly does.
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December is a month that's revealing to a lot of people. It helps people reveal whether they
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still want to be in this business, reveal whether they want the people that are on their team.
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There is so much that the month of December and just what the season itself does, right? There's
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so many distractions. There's so much that's happening and a lot of it is good distractions,
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right? Good. Christmas time is good distraction. I like it. I prefer it, whether it's Christmas
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lights on a house or it's just how the actual feeling flows inside of a store for that time.
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That is December, but being able to see where it points out a couple of your pain points,
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that is very insightful. We love that. But for the next year, as we're going into 2026, why does
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that matter and why is that so important from your side? Just what you said earlier, everybody
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wants to go into the new year new, like refreshed, better, right? Even customers that walk in the
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dealership, they want to have just the best experience. Hopefully they're buying cars with
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the big red ribbon on them, right? But if they're not and they're in service, this probably isn't
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the best month for their car to be in the shop, right? There's a lot of stresses on consumers,
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financial stresses, time stresses. So all of that is what the dealership is feeling,
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but it's how they deal with it is what's going to matter. And then further from that,
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how they're going to fix it if it's broken going into 2026. 2026 is going to be a great year.
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It is going to be a great year. Y'all definitely need to take a look at what it is that you're
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brewing inside of your store as far as technology, as far as your processes, as far as how it is that
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you do business and keep your experience customer centric. Of course it always should be, but keeping
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it smooth and easy, the easier it is, the simpler it is for your employees and for your customer
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is ultimately going to set the trend that we are going into an age where things are rapidly changing,
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rapidly upgrading. And it's very important that we upgrade ourselves and our thinking
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as we go into that. We should be upgrading a lot of things. One thing that I do know
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after speaking with you, seeing you on many interviews now, I've done some research, right?
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I checked out who you are as we partner up with people. We want to make sure that we're aligning
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ourselves with, and we realize that really quick because I love your language. When you talk about
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customer experience, you talk a lot about the customer. And I really love hearing that. When
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we were, Katie talked about it at the event there too, when you talk to anybody like a,
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when you're talking to high grade people who have great experiences at their businesses,
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whether it's automotive, restaurants, everything is about that one more thing that we can do for
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somebody, that plus one, right? And it's a big thing. What does that mean in practice to you?
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I talk to my team about this all the time. We can do a great job to market to the dealer. We can
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do a great job to demonstrate what our solutions do. We can even get the deal, right? But then
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what happens? What happens after the sale? So we've spent just a ton of time and resources making
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sure that our team does something that's not common anymore. We actually show up at the dealership
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to do implementation and training. We actually walk them through best practices. We're like a
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human being in a world where it's not as common. I'm not going to name the cell phone provider that
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I recently left, but I couldn't change my credit card on my bill for three months because I could
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not get a person to help me. So I finally just stopped payment on it and went to a different
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provider. Can you imagine? That's rough. So from a business perspective and how we work with dealers
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is ultimately the same concept because they're working with customers face to face in the same
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fashion. So I think when you talk about the plus one showing up in person, in my opinion,
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that should be a given. But the plus one would be showing up with that coffee or showing up
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with doing your research on the dealership. Maybe there's something special about what they've done
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and how they run their business that you can accentuate or tap into. I'm a big fan of just
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making the experience personal because I think that is the plus one. It is the plus one. Especially
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in today's world, we came off of a time in automotive in particular where it became very
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transactional because inventory was super low. People were desperate and they were just buying
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whatever they could find. So they didn't even really care about the experience, even customers.
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So it went both ways. It wasn't just one way street there, two way street, because if you're
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like, I need that car, I don't care. Just whatever I have to go through to get it, give it to me.
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So that became a lull when it came to how we treated customers because it just was an opportunity
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to get better there. Now we're back in the age of inventory is out there. We're back in the spot
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of we need to move metal where we're starting to hold onto inventory too long. So it's, hey,
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how do I give people an experience that's above and beyond? And that plus one so much matters.
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Giving somebody a personal experience. Again, we talked about the top of this show. It's,
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if you do something like that, the price doesn't matter anymore. Not that we get them,
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not that we get an over on people. It's just that it becomes like where it doesn't matter
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if you're the best price in town, you're the best experience in town. I want to come see you.
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Yep. And it's a convenience. Everybody's running. I'm sure you guys run. I run every day. I've got
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two kids. I manage a business. I'm running. These consumers are no different. If antiquated systems
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are in the dealership that slow things down, how would you feel waiting in line a couple days
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before Christmas to get your car? Because the systems in the dealership weren't keeping up.
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Come on. And that's what so many people need to just analyze real quick. Jump on your customer
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side of things and see what does that actually look like. Let somebody walk through your showroom
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and tell you whether or not you're actually hitting that point. There are a few things that are
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key givens, but we are never going to stop encouraging everybody to understand that the
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only time to wow your customer is now. It's very important that you find different ways to wow your
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customer. And sometimes it's not doing anything extravagant. Doing the things that have to get
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done simpler, easier, smooth and transition, putting a wow on their face of, man, that was
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actually pretty easy. And those things stand out because for anybody that's bought a car more than
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two or three times, they know some of the glitches inside of the system or some of the things that
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slow it down and the frustration. And we encourage sales pros all over the country to recognize that
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time and confusion kills car deals. It's those two things together that makes a customer not feel
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comfortable being where it is that they are. And we've heard you say before that leaders
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shouldn't necessarily just pay attention to having friendly people. That should be a given.
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That should be happening. You should be smiling. You should be nice to the person that's trying
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to give you business. But why is it that you feel like, or why is it that you feel like right now,
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this shift is so important to make sure that we are giving them systems that make them great
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at what they do. We're equipping them to be great at what it is that they do.
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Why is that such a big shift? And why is that happening now?
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Because nobody has patients anymore. I don't have patients. I'm pretty lucky though, because I've
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been in this industry so long that I know the ebbs and the flows of things. But new consumers,
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younger folks in the space, they're transactional as well. And just being in the transaction
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business payments, that's the last spot. That's the final thing that happens is when someone
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pays. And if it's not convenient, it's slow, it's broken, maybe they don't take the kind of payment
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I want to pay with, then it's frustrating. I'm not trying to call out the details of our economy
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right now, but there's financial strain with a lot of consumers right now. And dealerships have
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to be cognizant of that in the systems that they use as well. Because if you want the business,
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you've got to be able to accept the payment that the customer wants to use.
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That's so true. Meet them where they're at. It's no different than how they communicate. We coach
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really hard inside stores on communicating where people want to communicate. Not everybody picks
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up the phone, not everybody texts messages, not everybody emails. Some people do a little bit
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of everything. Some people only talk on social media and use social media messengers, right? So
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knowing where people are at, being able to provide a place where they can feel like I can make payment
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any which way I need you to be able to help me. I need Bitcoin. I got Bitcoin, can I buy a car with
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Bitcoin? We can do that. Exactly. Yeah, we can do a car with Bitcoin. It's an amazing experience.
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Julie, I'm going to go off script a little bit. I got to ask a customer experience with what you
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do. I'm sure you have a success story, something that you can share that was something similar to
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this where somebody wanted to make a payment and because they had a tool like dealer pay inside
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their store, they were able to provide a service that most places don't have yet. Yeah, absolutely.
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And it goes back to, like you said, how do they want to be transacted with? Do they want to send
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a text to link with a payment in it so they can quickly make payment? Are they a repeat customer
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where I've already got their payment on file and I can just build them? I'm a modern consumer. I don't
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want to have to get my card out. I don't want to have to call anybody on the phone and give them
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my credit card number. That is so insecure. Sending a payment link, guys, is it's more secure than
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any of that. In some cases, more secure than even them right in front of your face. December, yes,
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it's a sensitive month, but it's also the highest fraud month. And dealers are not protected when
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it comes to a lot of that stuff. No, they're not. Wow. The knowing that your system and your tool
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is evolving towards the need specifically for the dealer. And this is what's awesome about
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one, just the awesome opportunity we have inside of a country, inside of a world, inside of an
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industry where we can modify our solution to the need of today. I'm sure that over time,
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you've evolved what it is that you've been doing. You don't get where it is that you are,
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especially inside of a dealer world, without being able to shift and be adaptable. And the core key
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actual value of a solutionary is to be adaptable. And that's what I'm describing. You've probably
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seen a whole lot of things. What were some of the things that inspired you to continue to evolve
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this dealer pay tool for your customers? Like what dealerships, if you want a specific give names,
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and you don't necessarily have to, we're not afraid if you do, but what types of systems and
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customer experiences at stores made you say, Hey, we can take that and we can hope to model that
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to some of these other dealerships. What were some of the inspiration that you were able to receive
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inside of developing it to where it is today? Sure. I mentioned that dealer pay has been in
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existence for about 14 years. I've actually been in the industry for 25. So I used to be a sales
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person that worked for a large conglomerate. So I used that early experience in my life to
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pay attention. When finance managers are calling at nine o'clock asking this guy wants to pay with
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his AmEx, how much is this going to cost me? Or an office manager calling saying, I can't reconcile
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my batch. Where's this transaction? I have 10 transactions for 102.50. And I don't know which
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customer it goes to. And this is crazy, but even crawling on the floor of these nasty dealerships
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early on, because their wires weren't even plugged in, their terminal didn't work. There's just so
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many examples of all those crazy things. And I just paid attention and I tried to develop a solution
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that would fix those problems for the dealership. And that challenge is ever changing.
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So it's really neat to be in my shoes. We almost enjoy when a dealer calls and says,
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hey, I love this, but can it do this too? And there it goes. And then I'm calling my developer,
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hey, can we make that happen? And most of the time we do. I love that. And that's what it is.
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That's what it's like. The experience, your experience being out in the field throughout
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the years, 25 years. Congratulations to you. And what a success story to constantly grow and evolve.
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And I love that. Super impressed. Our key mantra is forget, focus, fly, and keep growing. You've
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done that so well. And I love that you literally been on your knees crawling in it. I know what
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it's like, the dealership floors are disgusting. Nasty. Anything underneath desk, man. It's crazy.
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I know what it's like to go underneath there and have to figure out how to pull the plug.
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Why isn't my printer working, right? All this stuff. And so I thought you're being that person who
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paid attention and saw that there was something that needed a solution. You saw problems, but you
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didn't, you didn't percolate the problems. You grew a solution there. And we appreciate that. It's
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what a true certified solutionary does. And we absolutely love that. Thank you for sharing that
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story. And that's good to hear that about you and people, you should hear that. This isn't
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somebody who's just only been a CEO, right? Or a founder. This is a car gal who's been inside
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stores and seeing the things that needed to change. It was out in the field. I love that.
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That's like a soldier out there that came up in the ranks and now as an officer.
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That definitely builds credibility amongst the dealer landscape, right? If there's anything that
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car guys and car guys want to be able to know and have a connection with somebody that knows what
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they're going through and knows how to speak their language. If there's anything that we try
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to make sure that we do for the different vendors that serve dealers is help them speak
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car guy, help them speak. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Thank you for talking about it. And from your vantage point of having the experience that you
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have, that definitely brings a bit of credibility to your conversation and
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people leaning into the wisdom that you're giving, right? Say, guys, do you see this?
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You look at this every day and you probably didn't even notice how dirty this is. Or you'd
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look at this every day and you probably don't know how much this is slowing down your business
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and is a headache for your customer. But you just do it every day. Remember,
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people don't realize that the funk is in their face once they're sitting in it that long,
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but we everybody get the funk out of my face. We are jumping into this. What's up, Stacey?
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Welcome to the party. Best in the space. How are you? She's all right.
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Applause to that. Thank you. Hey, keep in mind, we'll be doing the show every month. So
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stay tuned for the next episode coming up soon. Stacey, this is a show good for a year. So let's
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go. We're excited about that. And when it comes to everything that we're learning and everything
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that we're trying to do here, we're always trying to figure out something to take it to the next
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level. We're always trying to figure out and team up with people who do big things. And
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that's something that we definitely want to say that about you, that you are taking it to the
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next level. If a dealer leader only remembers one thing from the show, if there's only one
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thing that they could take from the show and be able to go back and make a difference, what would
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that be? Don't be afraid to change. Because not changing can be worse than changing in the industry
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we're in. So true. We've been to events where this company was on top of the world and five
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years later, they didn't change. They rested on laurels. And in today's world, with all the
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technology, let's not use the bad word AI, I'm going to say, I just said it. So it's a great
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word. I love it, but it's used so much right now. But at the end of the day, it is awesome
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intelligence and it does speed things up and it does make things a little bit better. But with
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that tool even being out there, if you're not changing, everyone else around you is, but most
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importantly, the people buying cars are changing. And if we're not evolving to where they're going,
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then we're going to definitely be faded out. And I don't want to be, I don't want to be towards RS.
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I don't want to be Sears. I don't want to be all these. I want to walk buster walk busters.
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Opportunity and they passed on it. And that's so sad. Yeah, it is. And that's why it's so important
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that us, us people out here who really want to help our dealers look for change every chance you
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can. And don't be afraid to be uncomfortable. That's such a great point. I appreciate you sharing
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that. Absolutely. The Santa hat is purposeful today. I'm actually going out to see Santa Julie
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today going out to see some of my dealers and spread some holiday cheer with them. But also,
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this is also a great time of the year for me to thank these dealers. I've had some dealers with
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me for 25 years. And these guys are not just business partners with me. These guys are my
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friends. And I just, I love this space. And it just makes me happy to be able to go out to their
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stores and bring cookies and little bottles of booze and all kinds of things.
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So I do miss being at the store and getting the gifts from our good friends, the vendors,
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the people who really helped us take it to the next level. It was always a good time to see
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them to thank them at the same time. I want to thank you for all the things that you do for
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your dealers and also for this automotive space. And also thank you for wanting to share information
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for everyone out there. This is free. This just takes time, folks. Just get on here, listen.
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We're going to be sending out a lot of, this is going to be replayed. This is going to be on
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podcast. So if you listen to podcasts and you want to hear it just on the sound and go back,
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we're going to be having this out very soon, folks. Be looking forward. It's going to be two to
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three episodes based off of this one. And then we also are going to be dropping little shorts for
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you guys and some reels so you guys can enjoy some of the sound bites from the show that were
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just phenomenal. We look forward to sharing the great news, being able to share great information
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and edutainment so that you can go out and be better than you were in 2026, my friends.
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And 2026 is going to be the biggest year and the biggest tip I can give all you all is listen to
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the show. Jump on here and learn some things. That's right. Let's go. Car guys and car guys
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out there that are seeing the show that are hearing this on the replay, watching it live
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or what have you. Use that comment section. Drop a name. Tag a car guy. If you're a customer
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of any dealership anywhere and you're like, they need to probably take a look at maybe a
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growing a solution in this particular section and how people render payment for a product,
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please tag them. Drop them in the comments. If your dealership needs it, tag your store,
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highlight it, make sure that you do scan that QR code right above my head. You guys have been
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seeing that the whole show, but there we'll actually take you to book a demo on their webpage,
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folks. Go book yourself a demo. That costs nothing, but it can gain you everything for your clients.
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It could speed up the process and also make the workflow better, which in turn gives you a great
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customer experience. And then all you got to do is do that plus one and you are magnificent,
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my friends. You keep growing. Easy tip to give you to get the year moving. That's simple. Let's roll.
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We are so excited. Love the festivities. Love the joy that you're going to be bringing.
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Bring that energy. Bring that car guy coffee energy. Now that you've been brewing solutions
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with us, you are officially part of the family. We got to make sure one last thing really knows
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you got to drop those f bombs. Oh, we got to forgive. We got to focus. We got to fly. But
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before we do that, I do want to say one thing. Is that dealer pay and our good friend,
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Julie Douglas is 100% CGC approved, my friends. And you guys give me so much to go there,
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but let's get out of here with some forgive, focus, fly. Julie, if you don't know the moves,
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they go wipe off the weight of unforgiveness. We're going to focus. We're going to reach out
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and fly together and keep growing. We're going to do it on a count of three. Let's have some fun and
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let's roll out. Here we go. Roll out on three, one, two, three, forget it. Focus, fly and keep growing.
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Thank you so much. Car guys and car guys. You have been brewing solutions on the Car Guy Coffee
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podcast. I'm Lou Ramirez and I'm Frelin Arts. And you have been with our guest today, the one,
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the only, Julie Douglas. From dealer pay, get you some, spread the joy.
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Spread the joy, everybody. We will see you soon. Keep brewing solutions. We're out.