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Welcome back to Switchcast Season 6.
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I'm your host, Doug Tabott, here with my co-host, Tyler Sanders, and we are the
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03:17
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Assistant to the assistant to the regional manager, getting deep into office references.
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What is fueling this podcast tonight?
04:11
It's not what the bottle that Tyler is holding in his hand is actually cinnamon rolls, which
04:19
my wife made for her birthday.
04:22
Yeah, it works that way.
04:27
She forgot the egg, though, but guys, what's the ruling?
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Absolutely delicious.
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Yeah, these are good.
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I think if anything, they're slightly, they're like a little more dense, not as airy, which
04:42
I think the egg could bring, but the flavor's there.
04:45
I thought you were talking about blonde people.
04:50
I'm also drinking whiskey after the cinnamon roll.
04:53
I'm not trying to, I don't think they'd go well together.
04:56
Let's see, warming up on our warm-up lap, that's right.
04:59
If you ever get out on the racetrack, you need to make sure your tires get warm
05:02
and your fluids, et cetera, before you hammer on your car and, you know, put it into a tire
05:08
wall because you're on cold tires.
05:10
My fluids are warm.
05:14
Hurts, according to AutoBlog, Hurts has been in the news quite a bit after, lately, again,
05:24
after receiving customer complaints based on the AI damage estimators are using
05:28
drive-through cameras and stuff because they're not using employees to validate the estimates
05:37
prior to sending bills to customers.
05:40
So, you know, there's an article on AutoBlog, but, you know, what's, it's nothing new
05:47
They've been in the news lately for all sorts of questionable business practices.
05:54
The last couple of years have been crazy.
05:57
When I think of Hurts, I can only think of the, didn't they have the Mustangs?
06:03
That's all I can think of.
06:04
So, that marketing worked because I'm like, oh, they had the black and gold Mustangs.
06:07
Yeah, for you, but the last couple of years has been a number of articles that are not
06:12
a good look for them, but anyway, according to this article on AutoBlog, it's Congress
06:16
wants answers from Hurts and, you know, it's all well and good, but, you know,
06:23
I don't understand why Congress is getting involved in this, right?
06:27
They're kind of hypocritical.
06:28
Like, we want answers from Congress.
06:30
Congress is overspending and, you know, they're, they're, they have questionable
06:36
investments, right?
06:37
All these Congress people getting rich off of their investments.
06:41
They're not questionable, Doug.
06:42
They're just very conveniently timed.
06:46
So, I just, I thought that was ironic.
06:49
That's like, oh, Congress wants answers from this company.
06:52
And it's like, let the consumer system work itself out, right?
06:56
Like, this does seem like an odd thing for Congress to be involved in.
07:00
They're not like, what are they?
07:03
Also, they can barely make the tech companies like follow the law.
07:08
What are they going to do to Hurts?
07:12
I thought of a incredible marketing thing for Hurts, though.
07:18
I can't believe they haven't done this yet.
07:20
Is it gold and black Mustangs?
07:25
Repurposing the song.
07:27
Love Hurts like an ad for them.
07:30
But like, instead of Love Hurts, it's Love Hurts.
07:34
And like, I, I feel like that could be their main marketing campaign.
07:39
I, there, now I find it so hard to believe that somebody wouldn't have tried that
07:44
already and the band that or the company that owns the like copyright to
07:48
that song said, no, you can't.
07:49
No, they license it.
07:51
You just buy the license to it.
07:53
Well, but they can say no.
07:56
Maybe the whoever likes that they would want that cash.
08:10
No, you don't like that one as much.
08:11
That I mean, I feel like Love Hurts is a more just like, it's like a command.
08:16
You're telling someone.
08:17
Love can go both ways.
08:19
Love does hurt or you must love.
08:24
So this is why I don't work in marketing.
08:29
Follow up to our last podcast about swerving to avoid pedestrians and animals
08:35
where we said it's not a good idea to serve to avoid animals.
08:38
There have been a number of accidents caused by that that were far worse
08:42
than the running over of the animal itself.
08:44
Well, sure enough today and this is not.
08:48
Please don't take this as a see I told you so moment.
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That's not what I'm trying to say here, but it's just it it happened again.
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The seven three liter power stroke group on Facebook's very specific group.
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Boy, they really just narrow in on a on a great engine.
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There was a bad accident.
09:05
One of the members, they were towing a truck on a trailer with their truck
09:10
and they served to avoid a deer, which is not a choice I would probably make.
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If I'm towing a trailer, but they wrecked hard and landed on a train track.
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Everyone is OK, sort of.
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There were some pretty bad injuries, but like everybody's mostly good now.
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Our thoughts are with them as they recover.
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And our reminders are with you, the listeners hit the dang deer.
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I was personally involved in an interesting interaction this week,
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and I'm going to do my best to present this to you as a podcast host
10:42
versus the dealer who was allegedly wronged in the scenario.
10:47
But it certainly went viral on the internet,
10:51
and it was basically just a dispute over nine hundred dollars.
10:55
So why did a dispute between two dealers over nine hundred dollars go viral?
11:00
And I think along and short of it is because people are absolutely
11:04
sick of being treated the way I was treated by car dealers.
11:09
Period. And they identified with it.
11:11
So let's give you a rundown of the scenario,
11:14
and I'm going to play the actual recorded calls of the interaction.
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Switch cars, a dealer in Ohio,
11:24
contacted Craig and Landrith cars, a dealer in Louisville, Kentucky,
11:29
not to be confused with the Craig and Landrith Inc. in Indiana.
11:34
Separate corporations. We'll get to that later.
11:37
And they had a 2010 portion, 9-11 advertised on their website
11:43
on Craig and Landrith cars website, craigsbestcars.com.
11:47
So advertised for fifty two thousand five hundred.
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Switch cars buyer said, Hey, we're a dealer.
11:53
Can we buy this for whatever?
11:56
Fifty one to fifty is the price they were agreed upon.
11:58
I don't want to quote the negotiations because I wasn't there.
12:03
Said we want to buy it wholesale.
12:07
The salesman said, Let me see how to get this done
12:09
because typically salesmen do retail deals.
12:13
Wholesale deals are handled with somebody else,
12:15
use car manager, whatever.
12:17
But, you know, really doesn't matter.
12:19
The salesman gets a commission if they sell the car.
12:21
So said that the the chief operations officer
12:26
and the owner are having a meeting tomorrow morning.
12:30
Have to ask them how to do it.
12:32
And after that, they sent us back a purchase agreement
12:36
for the price of fifty one to fifty plus
12:39
an additional dock fee of five hundred eighty nine dollars and fifty cents.
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We'll call it six hundred bucks.
12:45
We pushed back and said, Hey, we thought this was a wholesale deal.
12:48
There shouldn't be a dock fee on a wholesale deal.
12:50
And the salesman said, Nothing I can do hands are tied.
12:53
We didn't really want to pay six hundred bucks more
12:56
than we had agreed to.
12:57
But we're like, Whatever, I think the deal's worth it.
13:00
So fine, we'll sign on the dotted line.
13:04
We signed a purchase agreement.
13:05
We signed a form for a non refundable deposit of a thousand dollars.
13:12
The reason we did not finalize the deal immediately and fund them in full
13:17
is because they were fixing a part on the vehicle.
13:22
I think it was a front shock had to be replaced.
13:24
The part was on order already.
13:27
That's an important detail because we had offered to buy it
13:31
just without the service being done and say just like discount us
13:35
the amount of that service.
13:36
And they said, No, no, no, we're going to fix the car.
13:38
We already have the part on order.
13:41
So we said, Fine, put the deposit down with the intention of finishing
13:45
the deal once that part had come in.
13:54
They called Brian, the buyer at Switchcars and said, Hey,
14:00
there's a problem with this deal.
14:01
Essentially, we were told to charge you for the service, which is 900 bucks.
14:08
And that was not OK, because, one, we had already agreed on a deal.
14:13
Two, they had already increased it by 600 bucks, but we had signed
14:17
contracted deal deal, given them a deposit for a certain price.
14:21
So I said, OK, well, have the owner call me.
14:25
Because I'm thinking dealer to dealer owners talk.
14:28
My intention was, since we had not done business with them before,
14:34
I figured, Hey, they don't know who we are.
14:38
I can say less than I think there's a pretty good potential relationship here
14:43
because I value industry relationships a lot.
14:47
We would not be anywhere without fellow dealers that we trade cars back and forth.
14:55
And I thought that, you know, maybe there was something to be said there
14:59
that would inspire him to want to just, you know, forget about the 900 bucks.
15:07
So you would trade cars back and forth with other dealers
15:10
because somebody might have a client or a market that could handle a car
15:13
that maybe you couldn't and vice versa. Exactly.
15:15
If I get a Hummer on trade, I probably don't want it.
15:19
Craig and Landryth cars, they specialize in those types of things.
15:23
Wholesaler that I know sells them a lot of cars.
15:25
It's always lifted trucks.
15:26
It's stuff people in Kentucky want. Gotcha. Right.
15:30
Doesn't look like they do a lot of Porsche 911s.
15:32
We do a ton of them like, you know, specialization of labor,
15:37
selling to your demographic like you.
15:40
We don't do stuff above like 250 K on a frequent basis.
15:44
So when we get that stuff on trade, we don't want to buy it.
15:48
We have other dealers that we have a good relationship with, you know,
15:51
everybody scratches each other's back and it makes the industry work.
15:55
We're not islands. Anyway,
15:58
apparently he did not see things the same way.
16:01
And this is where it gets interesting.
16:04
So he called me and left me a voicemail,
16:08
which I have recorded here and I will play for you.
16:16
Hey, Doug, Joey Craig with Craig and Landryth cars return in your call.
16:21
Thank you for calling me.
16:23
But the the deal is, if you all want to buy the car,
16:28
what I instructed the manager as, and I hope you don't want it.
16:34
So you can call me back if you want, but you're wasting your time.
16:41
Now, that was quite surprising to me, not the professionalism I expected.
16:47
Sounded like he kind of came out of the gate swinging there.
16:50
So I called him back a little less confident that we could come to terms,
16:57
but I still at least wanted to try because we had made a deal.
17:00
And I thought that that was only fair.
17:03
And this is the call.
17:05
The entirety of the call unedited.
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Good. I'm wondering where we went wrong here on this deal.
17:18
What? Why do you not want?
17:20
Where they where they went wrong, as they shouldn't even have sold it to you.
17:23
But it's pretty simple.
17:24
I told I told the manager, if you all wanted to pay that,
17:28
I'd go on and sell it other than that.
17:30
I'm not interested in selling it.
17:32
OK, well, let's back up.
17:34
We have a contract and a deposit.
17:36
Hey, let's let's let's do this.
17:39
Let's do this. OK, it's real easy.
17:41
We you you don't have shit. OK.
17:44
You're just like me.
17:45
I got a thousand dollars that you give us on a credit card.
17:49
If you decided you weren't going to come, I wouldn't have shit at a price.
17:53
Yeah. OK. Yeah. OK.
17:55
But it's real simple.
17:56
If you want it, let me know.
17:58
You all are going to pay that much for it.
18:00
You don't want it at the deal that we agree to that that you're
18:05
a certain that's not happening.
18:08
That's not happening. OK.
18:10
So you're going to violate a contract.
18:13
Yeah. Yeah, I'm overrated.
18:15
Why? Over over nine hundred dollars.
18:20
But I don't want to sell the car in the first place.
18:22
OK, they shouldn't have sold the car.
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But I'm going to I'm going to I'll be glad.
18:28
Why do you want to sell the car, buddy?
18:31
Let me take some. OK, this is the last thing I want to be doing
18:34
is talking to you about this. OK.
18:36
I don't care if you buy the car.
18:38
You can buy the car for the nine hundred dollars more
18:42
or whatever the number is, is what it takes.
18:45
If you don't want it, it's OK.
18:47
OK, Craig, on your website,
18:50
it says we believe fair prices, superior service
18:52
and treating customers right. I don't want to do me a favor.
18:56
OK, I don't want to hear all that shit.
18:57
OK, you're buying the car wholesale.
18:59
Do you want to buy the car or not?
19:01
This is your website.
19:02
I would love to buy the car at the deal.
19:05
It takes it takes what I said to buy the car. OK.
19:08
Whatever whatever the manager has told your guy,
19:12
that's what it takes to buy it.
19:13
If you don't want it, please don't.
19:14
We have in writing what it takes to buy the car.
19:18
You have a piece of paper.
19:20
Are you sure? Are you seriously wasting my time?
19:26
No, you really want to know I'm not right with me.
19:30
Yeah, let's do it. OK.
19:33
Let's do it. You ain't got shit. OK.
19:35
Now I'm not going to even show you the car. OK.
19:37
So have a nice life.
19:40
So that is the Craig and Landryth
19:44
car's definition of treating people right, apparently.
19:52
Yes, now. But he called your buddy.
19:55
I'm not. Hey, I'm not your buddy.
19:58
It gets spicier from there.
19:59
But before we get too far down the road,
20:02
because we posted that on social media, it went crazy viral.
20:07
People were review bombing the Craig and Landryth cars,
20:11
Google page and other pages,
20:14
which is side note, not a practice I agree with.
20:17
I don't think it's right for anyone to leave a review
20:20
for a company that they have not interacted with
20:23
because that sort can cut both ways.
20:26
And it's just ineffective, right?
20:29
So they have gotten all the reviews removed.
20:32
Not sure how, but anyway,
20:35
that was an unintended consequence
20:38
of publishing that phone call on the Internet.
20:42
So one thing I wanted to ask is,
20:45
did you have a counter signed contract?
20:51
No. OK. But and that is
20:56
that is the most common objection
20:59
to our case, essentially, or our cause.
21:05
That came up on the Internet as people agreed
21:08
with Joey Craig and said, you don't have an agreement
21:11
because it wasn't signed by the manager.
21:14
And that's what Joey Craig said as well.
21:15
He said, you don't have crap.
21:18
All I've got is a deposit, which I want to clarify.
21:22
Him saying all I have is a deposit.
21:26
In my opinion, implies that there is an agreement
21:30
because I signed an agreement that said it's a non refundable deposit.
21:33
And he admitted that if I didn't show up to do the deal,
21:37
all he would have is a thousand bucks,
21:39
but he would have a thousand bucks, which is damages.
21:44
Right. Like to me, that's implied damages of,
21:46
oh, you didn't honor your side of the deal.
21:49
So I'm keeping your thousand dollars.
21:52
But I, as the buyer, am not allowed to have damages.
21:55
I don't have crap because they didn't sign it.
21:58
So he wants it to be one sided
22:01
the enforceability of the agreement
22:02
where he's got a deposit in case I walk,
22:05
but I have nothing in case he changes his mind.
22:09
Yeah. So does them taking the deposit mean anything?
22:13
Well, let's call up our friend Kevin Burton
22:16
from the Rubenstein law firm, who is an attorney
22:19
and he can shed some light on this
22:21
because this is the most common objection to
22:28
That was what most Internet legal experts said
22:31
is you don't have an agreement.
22:34
Hello, Kevin speaking.
22:35
Hey, Kevin, you are live on Switchcast
22:37
and my co-host here just asked what everybody else
22:41
has been asking is because our agreement
22:44
with Craig and Landryth Kars was not counter signed,
22:48
did we have a real agreement?
22:50
Is there any enforceability to the contract?
22:55
Well, let me start by saying this.
22:57
All right. And you know this,
22:59
but I'll just explain it to everybody.
23:00
I'm a Michigan attorney.
23:01
I'm not an Ohio or Kentucky attorney
23:04
where your dispute is.
23:06
However, they all lie in the Six Federal Circuit
23:09
and they all generally apply the same principles
23:13
You paid the thousand dollars, as I recall, Doug,
23:16
from our conversation towards the vehicle
23:18
and you haven't received that back, right?
23:20
We did receive the deposit back.
23:22
They voluntarily refunded it
23:24
after they canceled the deal.
23:28
Still going back to the issue
23:30
of not having a counter signature on the contract,
23:33
and I mean, I don't wear a black robe, I'm not a judge,
23:35
but my opinion on it would be
23:37
that you paid what's known in contract law
23:40
as valuable consideration for your deal.
23:43
You tied up a thousand dollars
23:45
in efforts to purchase this vehicle
23:47
for the agreed upon price.
23:49
So the fact that they didn't counter sign
23:51
the agreement doesn't mean anything.
23:52
And I don't know how familiar you are
23:54
with the term statute of frauds.
23:56
Have you ever heard of that?
23:58
So statute of frauds basically is something
24:02
that typically applies in dealings
24:05
where both parties have to sign the agreement.
24:09
Most states wouldn't find that this transaction
24:12
that you had falls under the statute of frauds
24:15
that requires it to be signed by both parties.
24:18
There just has to be some kind of consideration
24:20
that's tendered, a.k.a. your thousand dollars
24:23
towards the purchase of the vehicle.
24:26
So my thoughts would be,
24:27
yeah, regardless of them not signing it,
24:29
I think it's still an enforceable agreement.
24:35
What are your thoughts?
24:36
So I mentioned what is not a legal term,
24:40
but essentially like implied damages.
24:42
So I signed the agreement that says
24:44
it's a non-refundable deposit.
24:46
And Joey Craig admitted that if I didn't show up
24:48
to do the deal, he would have a thousand dollars.
24:52
So they're basically saying,
24:54
well, if you don't come through with your end of the deal,
24:57
we keep your thousand dollars
24:58
because that's our damages for you
25:00
not upholding the agreement.
25:02
So it's like he wants it one way, but not the other.
25:06
Yeah, so in terms of your question you're asking to me
25:10
is in terms of what your damages are
25:11
for not getting the vehicle, right?
25:13
As I understand it.
25:14
Right, and just kind of like he's admitting
25:17
that he has damages if I don't go through
25:19
with the agreement, which to me says
25:21
that he actually is validating the agreement
25:25
because he's keeping the thousand bucks
25:27
if I don't go through with it,
25:28
but then he's saying if he doesn't go through with it,
25:31
I have nothing, I have no grounds to stand on.
25:34
Well, yeah, absolutely.
25:34
His statements to you.
25:35
And I mean, I actually just about an hour or two ago,
25:38
I just watched the video and then I got to say
25:41
he was wildly unprofessional in my opinion.
25:44
But aside from that, you do have like
25:49
an opportunity cost lost here
25:51
in terms of what you could have sold the vehicle for.
25:55
So there is consequential damages is the legal term for it
25:59
and it flows naturally from the breach of a contract.
26:03
And I agree with your point that you just made.
26:05
He did ratify the existence of the contract.
26:08
In fact, you even asked him in the video,
26:10
he said, are you going to violate this agreement?
26:12
He said, yeah, I'm gonna violate it.
26:13
So right there, him saying that acknowledges
26:15
the existence of an agreement.
26:17
I mean, that would be,
26:19
if it were to play out in court,
26:20
that'd be a pretty crucial fact
26:21
and that'd be a pretty crucial fact
26:23
that in my opinion favors you.
26:26
Well, I appreciate the opinion.
26:28
It's always good to have real professionals on our podcasts
26:31
as opposed to us just spouting things that we think.
26:35
So I greatly appreciate that.
26:38
And I think our listeners will as well.
26:40
And that'll help me as well responding to the internet,
26:44
the TikTok attorneys.
26:47
Well, thank you for having me on.
26:48
I appreciate the opportunity to come on
26:51
and speak about it a little bit.
26:53
And you guys have a good night, all right?
27:00
I will admit the, yeah, I'm gonna violate the contract
27:03
is pretty in my non-legal opinion damning of like,
27:08
well, if there wasn't a contract,
27:10
why did you say that you were going to violate it?
27:13
Now, a few people, I saw this comment too.
27:16
And I am incredibly outside of this world.
27:20
So I'm not taking the side,
27:21
but outside of it being a one-party signed contract,
27:26
some people said that you can back up up until the point
27:29
that delivery of a vehicle is taken.
27:32
Is there any truth behind that at all?
27:34
There could be in certain states laws
27:39
that protect the consumer in that regard.
27:43
But I don't think it applies to contract law.
27:47
I think it's talking about specific,
27:50
like when I look at the rules that govern finance contracts
27:56
and delivery of vehicles,
27:58
there are specific laws state by state
28:02
that govern the dealers in the sense
28:05
of we have to operate fairly.
28:08
But I'm not aware of anything that,
28:11
like any principle that overrules contract law
28:14
that's like, oh, well, until you physically have the car,
28:19
because you could fully pay for the car,
28:21
contract it and say, hey, I'm gonna pick it up in a week
28:23
because I'm on vacation.
28:25
They can't just like send you your money back
28:29
So I don't, I think again,
28:31
that's just TikTok attorneys being TikTok attorneys.
28:35
The crazy thing is post posting this
28:40
after posting this,
28:43
the dealer doubled down
28:45
and have been sending me crazy messages
28:50
or responding on social media with some really crazy stuff
28:53
and have done anything except take responsibility
28:59
for just breaking a contract.
29:02
I mean, Joey Craig said, oh, it's real simple.
29:05
I'm saying, no, it's real simple.
29:07
We had a deal, all you had to do is stick to it.
29:10
But you wanted 900 bucks more
29:11
and now we have this whole debacle.
29:15
I got an email from Austin Fox
29:19
working for Craig and Landrith,
29:21
sent from the Craig and Landrith company email.
29:23
The email reads in its entirety and I quote,
29:27
Doug, unfortunately for you,
29:29
you do not have a signed contract.
29:31
I understand in judging by your inventory
29:34
and pictures of your quote dealership,
29:37
you probably don't have a lot of experience
29:39
with actually selling cars.
29:40
So you are probably unaware
29:42
of what a actual signed contract is.
29:44
If you and your dealership want to continue
29:46
to play stupid games like uneducated brats
29:49
that you obviously are, period,
29:51
you will win stupid prizes.
29:53
Just know we here at Craig and Landrith
29:55
are rooting for you guys
29:57
and we hope you can recover
29:58
from losing probably the only deal you'll have this month.
30:01
Stay in there guys, have a blessed day.
30:05
I love to have a blessed day at the end.
30:08
They're just like I am in the right and better than you.
30:11
It sounds like professionalism runs
30:14
from the top down here.
30:17
Austin Fox then sent me a follow up email.
30:20
I think he went on chat GPT to get his law degree
30:26
and sends me this email cease and desist.
30:32
Final notice regarding online activity and legal claims
30:35
is a subject of the email.
30:37
Reading it in its entirety and I quote,
30:40
Doug, this will serve as formal notice
30:42
that the ongoing public commentary
30:44
on social media and Google reviews
30:46
whether by you or individuals associated with you
30:49
must cease immediately.
30:51
These actions are not only could be damaging
30:53
to the reputation of our business
30:55
but are also could impacting the livelihoods
30:58
of over 100 employees and their families.
31:01
We take these matters seriously
31:03
and we'll take all necessary steps
31:05
to protect our business interests.
31:07
If you believe you have a legally binding contract
31:09
we encourage you to pursue appropriate legal action
31:12
through the courts.
31:13
However, based on our records
31:15
no such enforceable agreement exists.
31:18
This communication constitutes our final warning.
31:21
Any further attempts to damage Craig and Landrith's
31:24
business reputation or interfere with its operations
31:27
may result in legal action.
31:33
Definitely didn't proofread any of that.
31:36
Chad GPT would never make those grammatical mistakes.
31:40
No, but it would have dashes.
31:41
It would have a ton of dashes.
31:42
It would have a ton of dashes.
31:46
And it would explain oddly what a cease and desist is
31:49
somewhere in there as if you asked it.
31:52
So again, they are unwilling to simply admit, hey guys,
31:59
our bad, we should have sold you the car
32:01
for the agreed-a-pron price.
32:03
So what if the, so I don't know and I don't know
32:08
if much of the audience knows like how a wholesale deal works.
32:10
Like I can't just call up a deal.
32:12
I can't call up switch cars and be like,
32:13
yo, I'm a wholesale dealer.
32:14
Sell me this car at wholesale.
32:15
It'd be a pretty sweet hack if that worked.
32:19
What if the, like, does the sales associate or manager
32:23
you talk to even have authorization
32:24
to do a wholesale deal to sell at such a discount?
32:28
What if they were taking a loss
32:29
and this is all a huge thing?
32:31
They didn't get the right approvals.
32:33
That's a valid question.
32:36
And I'm not going to answer you legally,
32:39
but to the best of my recollection,
32:42
talking to attorneys about this is the salesman
32:46
is acting as an agent on behalf of the dealership.
32:50
So yes, they do have some sort of authorization
32:55
to make deals, but that is irrelevant anyway
32:58
because he said in his text messages
33:01
that he had to ask the COO and the owner
33:04
after their meeting about this deal.
33:07
So he said, I've got to essentially go get authorization
33:12
to then send you a purchase contract at this price.
33:15
And it was not a stunning discount.
33:17
It was 1,250 bucks off of their asking price
33:21
plus a $600 dock fee.
33:22
So it wasn't this massive discount.
33:25
It was a fairly small discount.
33:29
I think they just realized maybe that they underpriced it.
33:33
I don't know what motivated them to want to change the deal
33:36
other than in my opinion, straight up greed.
33:40
Because we've made mistakes.
33:42
We have undersold cars before and we knew it
33:44
before the deal was finalized.
33:47
But because we had a deposit and or had signed a contract
33:50
and given our word, we honored it.
33:52
And it cost us money.
33:54
And we said, oops, we need to learn from that mistake
33:57
and not do it again.
33:58
Whether it's pricing our cars better
34:00
or not making a typo on a sales invoice, which we did,
34:04
like he had authorization to make this deal.
34:11
And at no point, well, I'm sorry,
34:13
in one of the phone calls, which was not recorded on our end,
34:18
the Joey Craig Jr. did say,
34:20
oh, the salesman wasn't authorized to sell it for that.
34:23
Which in my mind is a bold phase lie
34:26
based on the text messages that we have.
34:28
And speaking of lies,
34:31
the representatives of Craig and Landreth cars
34:36
in various capacities and in various places
34:38
around the internet have continued to double down
34:42
with untrue things in response to this.
34:46
In response to the Google reviews
34:48
that people of their own volition left them
34:52
and were all removed as of this filming,
34:57
we did not in any point say that people should do this,
35:01
imply that people should do this,
35:03
but they responded to multiple reviews
35:07
saying that Switch cars has paid people
35:09
to leave negative reviews for Craig and Landreth, paid.
35:14
They've said in multiple places
35:16
that the contract is not binding.
35:19
A couple of their sales representatives
35:21
have posted places that we illegally recorded the call,
35:28
On a number of counts,
35:29
one, Ohio is a one-party state where I called from.
35:32
Kentucky is a one-party state,
35:34
which is where the other side of it is.
35:37
They were recording the call
35:39
and when I hit to record,
35:41
it sends a notification to the other party
35:43
in audio recording saying this call is being recorded.
35:46
So they knew it was recorded because they recorded it.
35:50
I told them and I didn't need to tell them in either state.
35:53
Wait, so that, okay.
35:55
That dude knew he was being recorded
35:56
and he still acted like that?
35:57
He was on his recorded line.
36:01
And I told like, unless the iPhone thing didn't work,
36:05
I hit the button after we started the call
36:08
and it says audio prompt being sent in three, two, one.
36:16
They have posted that we had called them multiple
36:21
or gave them multiple harassing phone calls
36:24
prior to this interaction, which is not true.
36:28
They have posted that the cost of the service changed
36:31
hence why this deal changed.
36:36
I mean, it's just, it's excuse after excuse after excuse.
36:40
And it's really pretty ridiculous.
36:45
We did get a notice from an attorney today regarding this,
36:49
regarding this deal though,
36:51
representing Craig and Landerth cars.
36:55
But not the Craig and Landerth cars in Louisville, Kentucky.
37:00
This situation has gotten so much attention
37:03
that there is a different company,
37:06
Craig and Landerth Inc. and Craig and Landerth
37:08
pre-owned that are Indiana corporations.
37:12
Now way back when they were the same corporation
37:15
but when the original founders sold the companies off
37:19
sold to two different owners.
37:21
So the companies in Kentucky, the Craig and Landerth cars
37:25
with whom I have the dispute is not the same
37:29
as Craig and Landerth Inc. in Indiana.
37:31
And they wanted to make darn sure
37:33
that they were not associated with them.
37:37
And the attorney basically said,
37:40
they should have changed their name a long time ago
37:43
but it's never been a big deal until now.
37:46
So it's kind of humorous
37:48
and the attorney was very professional, great conversation
37:51
but it is kind of humorous that even the other Craig
37:54
and Landerth is like, no, no, no, this isn't us.
37:58
Please don't, you know, wrap us in with them.
38:02
I do really like that their website says
38:04
now you're thinking smart.
38:06
It just doesn't, woof.
38:07
And the car is still there as of recording.
38:10
But Doug, I gotta say,
38:11
I gotta really just be honest with you as a friend
38:14
and as a co-host, the website clearly says
38:16
Craig's best price and you violated that.
38:20
It's there on the website.
38:24
I don't know what you wanna do is right there.
38:28
Podcast over, I don't know.
38:31
You know what, one of the funniest,
38:33
speaking of the website, one of the funniest
38:34
and this is just semantics
38:36
but one of the most frustrating things to me
38:39
as someone who works with websites
38:41
with this conversation was you reading
38:43
what I'm assuming like core values of the company
38:47
and him brushing them off, referring to them as BS.
38:51
It is absolutely insane.
38:53
Yep, that's all I gotta say.
38:56
And there's so much more.
38:58
We could be here all night reading comments
39:01
on my social media, directed at me,
39:04
what I view as kind of underhanded personal attacks
39:07
by their employees and or ex-employees,
39:12
one of them even accusing us in a Google review
39:15
of being bigots and discriminating against this person,
39:21
this man and his husband
39:23
and basically playing the LGBTQ card.
39:29
Falsely, we found the person
39:31
and they had never inquired on a car
39:35
but they accused us in the review
39:37
of doctoring pictures, of being fraudulent,
39:40
all this different stuff.
39:41
I mean, it's crazy the attack that they're taking
39:44
but the long and short of it is in all of this,
39:48
the organization is refusing to take accountability.
39:51
Every message posted, every comment from their team
39:56
has been blaming me for posting this stuff
40:00
instead of taking a look at the root cause
40:03
of people's ire, right?
40:05
People on the internet identify with my situation
40:08
and they can't believe how I was treated.
40:10
I simply published the facts of the situation
40:12
and the recorded call.
40:13
It totally could have backfired on me.
40:15
I remember telling Ethan when I sent him the files,
40:18
I'm like, this might not go the way I want
40:21
because people might just say like,
40:23
oh, whatever, you're a dealer who cares
40:25
but it was the truth, we're gonna put it out there.
40:29
So if the internet decided that I was being a troll,
40:32
it could have backfired
40:33
but people made their own decision
40:35
based on what they heard
40:37
and that's what inspired all this backlash
40:40
against Craig and Landrith.
40:41
It's because of Craig and Landrith cars
40:44
not because I published it.
40:46
It's like getting mad at the police who chase criminals
40:50
because the criminals crash
40:51
and cause injury during a police chase.
40:54
No, the criminals caused the crash
40:57
because they ran from the police.
41:00
One thing that I did wanna mention that I did see though
41:03
was they, at least maybe it's just my service
41:07
down here isn't great
41:08
but I think they may have deactivated
41:10
their Instagram account or something.
41:14
And I don't know if this is the cause,
41:15
this is entirely speculation on my part.
41:17
I do not know if this is the cause of it
41:19
but while this was transpiring
41:22
and one of our videos was gaining traction,
41:24
people were commenting at Craig's Best Cars
41:26
or whatever his Instagram handle was
41:28
like, is this how you do business?
41:30
So the link to his Instagram profile
41:32
was readily available in the comments on these videos.
41:34
So people could find it and people went there
41:36
and I did notice on some of the most recent videos
41:41
they had posted where they had just dealership employees
41:45
and young women just walking around with a microphone
41:48
talking about what's in the shop
41:49
or not what's in the showroom, stuff like that.
41:51
And people were saying some of the nastiest comments
41:57
directed toward these women in the comment section
42:01
on these Craig and Lander with Instagram reels.
42:04
Some vile things, some of the most vile things
42:06
I think I've seen recently.
42:08
It just seemed like there has to be a line somewhere.
42:11
That's like writing the Google reviews
42:13
having that be the take away is,
42:15
I guess that's maybe one thing again,
42:16
we don't condone that but like just verbally going
42:20
after someone like having that be your action
42:25
coming out of seeing a video like this
42:27
seems incredibly inappropriate.
42:31
Well the reality is there are some great people
42:35
who are working at that dealership
42:37
who don't necessarily identify with these practices.
42:42
They're just there to do a job
42:45
but personal attacks of any kind
42:48
in relation to something like this
42:50
are unconscionable in my opinion.
42:55
Like we're getting some and I don't think that's fair.
42:59
I think it's right to address the truth of the situation.
43:03
When we posted our video,
43:04
it was here are the facts of what has happened, done.
43:08
I didn't call anybody any names.
43:10
I didn't ask for anybody to do that
43:12
and it is an unfortunate, I guess, trend.
43:17
This is just the internet, right?
43:18
As people hide behind the perceived anonymity
43:22
to throw insults and say absolutely terrible things
43:25
about people that are not justified.
43:30
You know, like I don't think Joey Craig
43:34
is a good business person.
43:36
I haven't said anything about his personal life
43:41
or like I just, that's a line that shouldn't be crossed.
43:46
This dispute is about the fact that he showed
43:51
a complete lack of integrity in business dealings
43:54
and doubled down on it by verbally berating me.
44:00
I think that shows a lack of character
44:02
that may translate into other areas of his life,
44:05
but that's not what this is about,
44:07
nor am I gonna attack somebody for that,
44:10
let alone unrelated employees.
44:13
That's not, that's not cool.
44:17
What I think is, so this went so viral
44:20
that I again had a couple of people like text me
44:22
a TikTok link and be like, oh my God,
44:24
look at this, a buddy of mine texted me
44:28
and said that he has had two situations
44:30
where cars have been sold out from under him
44:31
and one of them even, the salesman told him
44:34
when he said he had a signed purchase agreement,
44:37
the deposit was taken and the salesman said,
44:40
hey, we gotta cancel the deal,
44:42
the service manager bought the car
44:44
or the sales manager bought the car
44:46
or something like that.
44:47
It's like the same situation you were in,
44:49
but then somebody from the dealership
44:50
just comes in and buys it anyway.
44:52
So this, like shady but still kind of legal
44:58
or not worthwhile to pursue it kind of situation
45:00
seems to be happening all the time.
45:03
And it comes down to that,
45:04
it's usually not worthwhile to pursue it
45:06
and the dealers know that
45:08
and that's why Joey Craig was so arrogant about this
45:11
is because he goes, I don't really care
45:12
if I'm breaking a contract
45:15
because you're not gonna sue me.
45:16
And I've been told that before by dealers
45:18
on way bigger deals than this.
45:22
But there are situations
45:24
where dealers need to get out of a contract, right?
45:27
Like I've heard of valid scenarios
45:30
where a dealer legitimately expects a service bill
45:33
to be two grand and it's 20.
45:35
And they go, hey, listen,
45:37
you know, we didn't have the right contingencies in place
45:40
but we can't sell you the car for this money.
45:43
And the customer could absolutely enforce that
45:47
and say, you have to sell me the car
45:48
but sometimes there's a reasonable interaction
45:52
where you go, okay, I get it.
45:53
Or you have the car listed in multiple places
45:56
and somebody clicks by it now on eBay
45:59
while a salesman's making a deal and takes a deposit.
46:02
You have two legally binding agreements
46:04
that you didn't intend on having at the same time
46:08
but there's a reasonable way out of it
46:09
for reasonable people.
46:11
And for somebody to want out of a contract
46:14
but then to verbally berate the person
46:17
who's calling them out on it
46:19
that I think is what,
46:21
like that was the spark that lit this whole fire
46:25
is it wasn't just like, hey, listen,
46:28
we sold the car too cheap, I'm really sorry.
46:30
It's screw you, you don't have crap.
46:34
And that is an unbelievable arrogance to me
46:38
in response to violating a contract.
46:41
It's really incredible.
46:43
And that's I think what people identified with
46:45
is they just see that all the time with car dealers
46:48
and that's par for the course, unfortunately,
46:52
but that's the car world for you.
46:55
They also, and they're definitely afraid of the truth
46:59
and transparency because I responded
47:03
to their allegations about me,
47:05
their false allegations on their Facebook page
47:08
simply with facts and they deleted my comment,
47:12
blocked me from their page and turned off comments
47:14
for all their recent posts.
47:16
So they're really doubling down here
47:20
instead of just facing the situation head on
47:22
and facing it with truth.
47:25
So with that, boy, let's go to the shrew negotiator
47:31
appropriate sub-segment here.
47:35
There's a heavily modified Lamborghini
47:38
on Facebook marketplace.
47:41
Some friends tagged me in this one, it was great.
47:44
The Lambo, the model is listed as IDFK.
47:49
Let you figure that one out.
47:51
It's for sale for $100 with the description,
47:55
quote, I just need drug money.
47:58
Honesty is the best policy.
48:00
Right, but based on the wild
48:02
and in my opinion tasteless mods,
48:04
I'd say he already spent quite a bit on drugs.
48:07
So that description might be correct.
48:15
I think you gotta be a little bit high
48:17
to even find that car attractive,
48:19
but I guess whatever,
48:21
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
48:25
The Sheffield brand was recently revived by Jake Turkbus,
48:28
an owner of an original Sheffield All Sport Diver
48:31
he received from his parents in 1970
48:33
when he was just 11, beginning his love of watches.
48:37
As an adult, Jay used his extensive expertise
48:40
in product development and marketing
48:41
to revive the brand that started it all.
48:44
He set out to develop watches with a high level of quality
48:47
and specification at a value price.
48:50
His first effort and a successful one on July of 2023
48:53
was the debut of the Sheffield All Sport Diver 1.
48:56
It had the kind of build and movement
48:58
that much more expensive watches use
49:00
and his debut price of $108 was equivalent
49:04
to the $13 his parents paid in 1970.
49:07
Since that debut, Sheffield has expanded
49:09
to a wider range of automatics and chronos,
49:12
many designed around vintage Sheffield dials of the 60s.
49:16
The Sheffield well of clever and unique design
49:19
remains his inspiration as well as maintaining
49:21
the goal of high quality,
49:23
very affordable range of automatic and quartz watches.
49:27
Sheffield watches value on merit, not just price.
49:31
I love mine, so get yours at sheffieldwatches.com
49:34
and be sure to mention you found them on Switchcast.
49:36
Let's try to make this one light.
49:46
That was a pretty funny story.
49:50
Yeah, as funny as a priest stealing money
49:53
from a Corvette raffle can be.
49:55
But that's what happened according to the Catholic
49:58
newsagency.com and youriri.com,
50:01
the sources we used for this information, this news story.
50:06
The Pennsylvania priest has been placed
50:08
on administrative leave after he confessed
50:10
to local prosecutors last month to falsifying the results
50:14
of a high level fundraising raffle at his parish.
50:17
Father Ross Michelli allegedly admitted
50:21
to publicly falsifying the results
50:23
of the grand prize winner of a raffle
50:25
for either a Corvette or a 50k cash prize
50:28
at St. Jude the Apostle Parish in Erie.
50:32
I did look him up or try to look him up on their site
50:36
to see if I could get some recent sermons to see
50:38
if he preached about greed or love of money
50:41
or anything like that.
50:42
But he has been removed from his job there.
50:45
He's no longer on the website.
50:47
And I really didn't have time to go back
50:49
through a whole bunch of masses to find him preaching
50:53
on something that made him a hypocrite.
50:55
I'm sure it was there, but.
50:57
You know, I wonder if when he did the confession
51:00
to the authorities, if they had to put him
51:02
in a dark room with a screen between them.
51:12
The Catholic parish hosted the Winnevette raffle in 2024,
51:16
allowing buyers to purchase $50 tickets
51:18
for the chance to win a Stingray 1LT Corvette.
51:22
I don't know if it's a one of one, but.
51:25
It was the one made on the Wednesday.
51:27
It's the only one that's ever been raffled in the 2024
51:31
On Christmas 2024, the church announced
51:34
that Martin Anderson of Detroit had won the grand prize.
51:37
The reported winner chose the cash option.
51:41
But there were some concerns about this,
51:44
and warrants were issued, and the county prosecutor
51:49
got involved, and the priest reportedly
51:51
admitted that he fabricated the grand prize winner's name.
51:57
Yes, he allegedly committed the falsification
52:02
after a, quote, problem with the raffle system
52:05
left the grand prize without a winner.
52:13
What's weird to me is there's a huge gap in between the lake.
52:16
Well, this happened.
52:17
People thought something smelled fishy,
52:19
and then warrants were issued.
52:21
But I can't really find details on how.
52:23
So I guess there was some sort of somebody
52:25
within the church might have known something, and rumors spread.
52:29
There was an employee at the church
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that suspected something and said that the priest confessed
52:35
to him, which, hence, the alleged, right?
52:37
Because it's not recorded or whatever.
52:40
Another confessional, yes.
52:42
How the turns of table, Mr. Father.
52:49
No, it's how the turntables have.
52:55
Make me short circuit over here.
52:57
A search warrant, let's see.
52:59
He allegedly also confessed to awarding some smaller prizes
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to favored parishioners and friends.
53:06
Sounds like a mob boss.
53:07
A search warrant executed at the church office
53:10
in Rectory in February uncovered high-end electronics
53:13
and new Tesla brand name sneakers.
53:17
Which those are expensive.
53:19
Well, getting sneakers is as hard as me finding a GT3,
53:22
I mean, they had to have been New Balance, right?
53:28
And Disney collectibles owned by Father Michelli.
53:32
Look, I mean, you do what you got to do.
53:34
The affidavit also mentioned the discovery
53:36
of high-end resort cards and casino membership cards.
53:47
What was the name of the fundraiser again?
53:50
It's their Corvette raffle.
53:52
Isn't it like Winivette or something?
53:53
Oh, yes, Winivette.
53:55
Could be Steela Check, Roba Church.
53:59
That's all I came up with.
54:01
That should have spent more time on those.
54:05
Ethan said, not bad.
54:06
We're doing all right.
54:07
Just because I didn't say them.
54:12
Like, I wonder where that.
54:13
Oh, one of the accounts stated that the church
54:17
is trying to sell the car back to the dealer
54:20
that they bought it from, which doesn't make sense to me
54:23
that if you have a $50,000 cash option or a Corvette
54:27
that you would buy this Corvette in advance
54:31
or after the raffle for that matter
54:33
if the winner chose the $50,000 cash option.
54:36
Yeah, that seemed a little odd to me.
54:38
Wouldn't you partner with the dealership
54:40
to have them like reserve it for this purpose
54:42
or something so then they could sell it out?
54:46
You would likely get an insurance policy for this raffle.
54:51
But you don't buy the car in advance.
54:54
It seems like poor planning.
55:01
Well, maybe this guy was driving the Corvette.
55:04
He was driving a Tesla.
55:07
Well, if that wasn't one giant flop,
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Can't wait for the guy like two years from now
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It's going to happen.
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Ethan, my guy, time for you to go shopping at Doug's best cars.
56:27
I mean, speaking of our 25 for 25, that was on our list.
56:31
I mean, it was the M, but I'll take the 3-liter SI.
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Ethan, you could have it for $19,900.
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That's got to be Doug's best price.
56:43
It's plus the Doug fee, that's right.
56:46
Hi, Tyler, what's our flop of the week?
56:48
Alrighty, so we have learned that Volkswagen is locking horsepower
56:55
The specific article I've got in front of me right now
56:57
is from motor1.com, and it goes on to explain that in the ID4,
57:02
I believe ID3 Pro, they're essentially shipping the same car,
57:08
but if you pay a monthly subscription fee,
57:11
you can get access to additional horsepower
57:14
in terms of new software for your car to go faster.
57:18
It's in here somewhere.
57:20
Oh, God, we're at a no-show.
57:22
20-something, right?
57:22
It's like, yeah, it's not a lot.
57:28
And what's the subscription price?
57:30
The subscription is 1560 pounds per month.
57:33
Oh, goodness, I'm on a European website.
57:35
I don't know the conversion off the top of my head.
57:39
But outright, I think it's like $800.
57:43
You can do a one-time fee price, whatever, of $800,
57:46
or it's 20 per month or 200 per year-ish,
57:51
which is ridiculous to me, because that
57:54
is, in the purchase price of a car,
57:58
this car, allegedly, per this article costs around $50,000.
58:02
That's a rounding error, in my opinion.
58:04
You don't care about that kind of additional cost,
58:08
so just put it in the car.
58:10
But in my opinion, this is just a way for Volkswagen
58:13
to extract more value for their shareholders out
58:16
of people leasing cars or not really knowing what they're
58:19
getting themselves into.
58:20
The you will owe nothing and be happy to have a deal.
58:23
God, this is like, who do you think?
58:25
This didn't work out well for BMW.
58:26
Yeah, didn't they do the heated seat thing?
58:28
I think it was a turn signal subscription
58:31
No, don't need that, not the BMW.
58:34
I hate seeing something I love drawn to the same kind of BS
58:38
that like DLC and video games has created,
58:41
where you don't buy a full game, you buy a thing,
58:43
and then need to spend two or three times as much money
58:45
to get the full thing that you paid for.
58:48
OK, prop of the week.
58:52
Volkswagen allows you to purchase extra horsepower
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for $31 per horsepower.
58:58
What, Doug, that was that we've just done the flop.
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Yeah, and I disagree.
59:04
That is actually darn cheap horsepower.
59:07
They allow you to purchase it outright.
59:09
They don't make you pay for it monthly.
59:12
You can just buy extra horsepower and 31 bucks a horsepower
59:17
because 877 bucks or whatever for 28 horsepower
59:20
is incredibly cheap.
59:23
As anybody who's modified their car can attest to.
59:26
But let's look at a couple other comparables.
59:29
The Mercedes-Benz 212 E63, the P30 package,
59:35
adds 32 horsepower.
59:38
What did they do to add that horsepower?
59:45
You also get sport suspension.
59:46
I'll give you that.
59:47
Well, that's probably 32 horsepower, 28 horsepower
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from Volkswagen for 877 bucks.
59:54
Any idea how much 32 horsepower costs from Mercedes?
59:58
$7,700 Porsche 911 996 Turbo X50 package.
00:06
You get a bunch of extra bits with that, though.
00:08
But it's all to make the extra horsepower.
00:11
It's required in order to give you 31 horsepower.
00:16
With the Volkswagen situation, the stuff is there.
00:19
The stuff is all capable of it.
00:21
The E63 is all capable of it.
00:23
I will give you that one.
00:24
You can do an aftermarket tune that gets you more than 550
00:28
Turbo X50, $17,800 20 years ago for 30 horsepower.
00:36
Adjusted for inflation, that's $2.4 million for 30 horsepower.
00:43
See what you did there.
00:44
I disagree very strongly with the Porsche one,
00:46
because there were so many other bits
00:48
that they put on that engine to do.
00:49
Even if the end result was that horsepower,
00:52
it still was extra bits that are
00:54
different from the stock car.
00:55
This is the same Volkswagen with a fancy tune.
01:01
I am calculating this right now.
01:03
This is really important.
01:06
$593 is the price per horsepower in 2003,
01:13
which is when you could get an X50 package.
01:16
That is $1,034 today.
01:19
That means it cost you more for one horsepower on a Turbo X50
01:23
package than the entire 28 horsepower from Volkswagen.
01:28
I feel like you're missing them.
01:29
So they're giving you a deal.
01:31
I disagree very strongly.
01:34
The Mercedes, the tune package is sure.
01:37
The tune is just fancy softwares.
01:38
Just look at it as a tune.
01:41
Don't they put a different oil pan,
01:42
and there's different heads or cylinder bits on it?
01:47
The X50 was a whole thing.
01:50
Turbo, intercooler, tune.
01:53
Those are all parts.
01:54
That you have to do that to get the horsepower.
01:57
So you're getting bits.
01:58
You're getting stuff.
01:59
You're getting it's a different car.
02:02
But you can't tell that you're getting the bits.
02:04
You're going to tell me you can look under.
02:06
You've got to tell everybody.
02:07
Tell the difference between the K20 and the K24 turbos.
02:10
No, what you've got to do is what everybody on Facebook
02:13
does is do, I've got a 2003 911 Turbo X50.
02:16
Oh, I thought you were going to say put
02:17
a mirror under your engine bay at the car show.
02:20
We're getting there.
02:21
Not quite Corvette.
02:23
I'd love to say 911 people should start doing that.
02:29
Look at my split case crankcase.
02:34
When I get my GT3, I'm going to do it.
02:36
I'm going to just sit there and look at it.
02:37
Be like, no, look at that dry sumps.
02:41
I've wanted you for so long.
02:42
Look at my non corroded engine bolts.
02:45
Look at my working IMS barrier.
02:48
No, mine's working now.
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