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On this episode of Kevin Harvick’s Happy Hour, Kevin Harvick sits down with Hamlin to discuss how his season has unfolded so far, what made the Las Vegas victory so meaningful, why his current team has been so effective, the early success of 23XI Racing and Michael Jordan’s impact at the track, what still needs to improve moving forward, and how he views the future of NASCAR as the sport continues to evolve.\n\n0:00 - Intro0:33 - Denny Hamlin Joins The Show!1:57 - Emotions At Las Vegas4:24 - Deciding When To Retire7:46 - Experience Vs. Youth In NASCAR9:38 - Relationship With Joe Gibbs12:22 - 23XI’s Hot Start16:49 - Michael Jordan’s Influence On 23XI18:54 - NASCAR Ladder System22:15 - NASCAR’s Next Challenge\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices"},"annotations":[{"startTime":207.0,"endTime":214.2,"type":"concept","title":"off season","url":"/glossary/off-season","quote":"A lot of that was not racing at all, but you just don't know. 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