Denny Keeps Delivering, Love To Wood Bros, Buescher Back In 17, San Diego Weekend Preview

Denny Keeps Delivering, Love To Wood Bros, Buescher Back In 17, San Diego Weekend Preview NASCAR Weekly Podcast · Jun 18, 2026

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Car

Ford Orion

The Ford Orion is a Ford car model name. In the podcast, it sounds like they’re using it to talk about a specific entry or possibility for who might drive what. Without more details, the main takeaway is that it’s a named Ford model in their discussion.

Term

25 point advantage

This means the driver starts the playoff with extra points because of their seed. Having that cushion makes it easier to avoid needing to take big risks right away.

Person

Danny Hamlin

Denny Hamlin is a NASCAR driver who’s been winning races for years. In this segment, they’re saying he’s on a roll and has a lot of career wins already, which makes him a strong title threat.

Term

intermediate tracks

These are NASCAR oval tracks that are in the middle size range—not tiny short tracks and not the biggest super-fast tracks. Because of that, teams usually tune the car for a balance of speed and stability for longer runs.

Place

Martinsville

Martinsville is a famous NASCAR short track in Virginia. It’s known for close racing and lots of braking, so the car has to be set up to handle slow corners and tire wear.

Term

road courses

Road courses are tracks with lots of different kinds of turns, not just left turns on an oval. NASCAR cars behave differently there, so teams and drivers often need different setups and skills.

Person

Denny Hamlin

Denny Hamlin is one of NASCAR’s most successful drivers. Here, the hosts are talking about how many races and wins he might still add before he stops racing full-time.

Term

next gen era

“Next gen era” refers to NASCAR’s newer generation of race car rules and design. The change is meant to standardize performance and change how teams set up and race cars compared to the previous generation.

Place

Talladega

Talladega is a major NASCAR track. It’s famous for fast, close racing where lots of cars can be bunched together, so races can swing quickly.

Term

chase

In NASCAR, the “Chase” is the playoff-style championship segment where top drivers compete for the title. The hosts are framing how many strong runs Hamlin could produce during those playoff races.

Term

over runner

An “over runner” sounds like a bet where you expect the final number to be higher than the prediction. In this context, they’re talking about whether Hamlin will beat a win total line.

Term

save fuel

“Saving fuel” means the driver has to drive a little more gently so they don’t run out of gas before the finish. It often changes how hard they can accelerate and how aggressively they can race for position.

Term

white

In NASCAR, the “white flag” means the race is down to the last lap. When they say “come into the white,” they mean the driver is reaching that final-lap moment.

Term

Hail Mary

A “Hail Mary” is a last-ditch attempt to pull off something unlikely. In racing, it usually means trying a bold strategy late because you need a big result.

Term

road course races

Road course races are NASCAR events on tracks with lots of corners, more like road racing than an oval. Cars and drivers often have to drive differently—especially with braking and turning.

Place

Mexico city

Mexico City is where NASCAR runs a race at a well-known track in Mexico. It’s a tough event where turning and braking skills really show.

Term

cautions

Cautions are when the race slows down because of something on the track. During cautions, strategy changes because you’re not racing at full speed and teams can plan their next moves.

Place

road America

Road America is a well-known race track with lots of turns. The hosts are using it as a reference point for how slow the race can feel when cautions come out.

Place

Pocono

Pocono Raceway is a NASCAR track in Pennsylvania. The hosts are talking about what happened there before to predict how this weekend might go.

Brand

Toyota

Toyota is a car brand that competes in NASCAR. The host is saying Toyota did well in the Pocono results they’re referencing.

Car

Hendrick Chevy

That phrase means the race team Hendrick Motorsports, driving Chevrolet stock cars. In NASCAR, the team and the car manufacturer can change how fast the car feels on a track.

Term

led some laps

“Led some laps” means the driver was in first place for part of the race. It usually suggests the car had good speed during those stretches.

Term

bigger tracks

“Bigger tracks” means larger NASCAR tracks that are typically faster and longer. The question is whether Hendrick’s cars are getting better where speed and tire wear are more important.

Place

Michigan

Michigan is a specific NASCAR track. Different tracks reward different car setups, so the conversation is about whether Hendrick’s cars are improving there.

Place

Walkins Glen

That’s Watkins Glen, a well-known race track in New York. The hosts are talking about a past win there to compare how the team has been trending.

Person

Eric Jones

Eric Jones is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are talking about how well he’s doing this season and whether he can qualify for the NASCAR playoffs (“the chase”).

Term

restart

A restart is when the race starts moving again after a caution. Getting a good restart—like choosing the right lane—can help you gain positions right away.

Term

points ladder

NASCAR keeps a season-long scoreboard based on points. If someone is “falling down the points ladder,” it means they’re slipping in the championship standings compared to other drivers.

Place

Sonoma

Sonoma is a race track in California with lots of turns and elevation changes. Road-course races like this can feel very different from oval tracks, so teams have to set up the car for it.

Place

Chicago land

Chicagoland Speedway is an oval track NASCAR races on. Even if it’s not new, the track surface can change, so the car setup and driving feel can be different than what teams remember.

Place

Atlanta

Atlanta is a NASCAR oval track. When they mention it right after other races, they’re basically saying it’s part of a tough stretch where you need to keep the car clean and finish well.

Term

survival

Here “survival” means the next races are so important that you can’t afford to crash or wreck the car. The goal is to finish and protect your points instead of going for maximum risk.

Car

Ford F-150 Lightning

The Ford F-150 Lightning is a pickup truck that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s built to do the same kind of truck jobs, but with an electric motor. The podcast mentions it as a quick topic in their segment.

Concept

going from two to one date

They’re talking about changing the NASCAR schedule so a track hosts one race weekend instead of two. The idea is that it might make fans more excited and improve the overall event.

Place

Daytonas

They mean NASCAR races at Daytona. The conversation is about whether some tracks should have one race date instead of two.

Place

Phoenixes

They’re talking about NASCAR races in the Phoenix area. The hosts are debating whether having fewer dates there would make the event better or draw more fans.

Place

Bristol's

They’re talking about Bristol Motor Speedway. It’s included in the list of tracks that get two races, and the hosts are debating whether that should change.

Place

Kansas

They’re talking about Kansas Speedway, a NASCAR track in Kansas. The point is that the fall race tends to feel more exciting and draws a better crowd than the spring race.

Person

Ross Chastain

Ross Chastain is a NASCAR driver. They’re mentioning him because he was involved in a memorable race they’re talking about.

Person

Noah Gregson

Noah Gregson is a NASCAR driver. They’re bringing him up because he was part of the race they’re remembering.

Place

Bristol motor speedway

Bristol Motor Speedway is a NASCAR track famous for loud, packed stands and exciting racing. The hosts are talking about the night race there and how it used to feel like a must-watch event.

Term

next gen car

The “Next Gen car” is NASCAR’s newer race car design. The idea is that it can make racing more similar from team to team, so the track’s characteristics may not dominate as much.

Term

super speedway racing

“Super speedway racing” describes NASCAR racing at very high-speed superspeedways, where aerodynamics and drafting dominate. The host implies that, compared with other formats, it’s less engaging to them and that the visual presentation (like grandstands) doesn’t feel as strong as before.

Brand

Kyle Larson

Kyle Larson is a NASCAR race driver. The hosts are talking about how NASCAR tries to make certain drivers more famous to regular fans.

Brand

Ryan Blaney

Ryan Blaney is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are saying NASCAR wants fans outside the core audience to know his name too.

Company

Hendrick Motorsports

Hendrick Motorsports is one of NASCAR’s major racing teams. The hosts are pointing out that it’s still important in today’s NASCAR, not just in the past.

Topic

Earnhardt docu series

They’re talking about a documentary series about Dale Earnhardt. The point is that it’s entertaining, but the hosts think NASCAR fans sometimes focus too much on the past.

Topic

Fox

They mention Fox as a TV network that has done NASCAR coverage and specials. The hosts are using it as an example of how broadcasts can help shape what fans focus on.

Term

pole

The pole is the best starting spot—right at the front of the race. Whoever earns the pole starts first, which can be a big advantage.

Term

gutter

The “gutter” is the thin strip of track near the inside edge. It can be slippery or less grippy than the main racing line, so it’s not always a safe place to run.

Term

O'Reilly championship

O’Reilly is a sponsor name NASCAR uses for one of its major series. The hosts are debating whether winning that series’ championship should count a lot when deciding who belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Term

Cup series

The Cup Series is NASCAR’s main, top-tier racing series. In this discussion, they’re saying being great in the Cup Series is one way to measure whether someone is truly elite.

Term

Hall of Fame

The NASCAR Hall of Fame is like a “career achievement” award. The hosts are arguing about what kind of results—like championships and being the best in your series—should earn a driver a spot.

Person

Justin Allgaier

Justin Allgaier is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are talking about whether his results—especially championships in the Xfinity-level series—should be enough for Hall of Fame consideration.

Person

Sheldon Creed

Sheldon Creed is a NASCAR driver. In this segment, the hosts are debating whether he can start winning more races based on how he’s doing in the standings.

Place

Richmond

Richmond is a NASCAR track where cars race in tight spaces. NASCAR is changing bumper parts so that contact can have more meaningful effects during races there.

Place

North Wilkesboro

North Wilkesboro is a short NASCAR track where cars run close together. NASCAR is changing bumper parts for races there so bumping can matter more in the race.

Term

bumper struts

Bumper struts are the rigid supports behind the bumper that help hold it in place. If you reduce how many there are, the bumper can flex and get damaged differently when cars bump each other.

Term

bumper foam

Bumper foam is soft, crash-absorbing material behind the bumper. If NASCAR removes it, the bumper area can get damaged more easily during contact, which can change how aggressive bumping feels on track.

Concept

bump and run

“Bump and run” is when one car lightly hits the other to make it lose momentum so the passing car can move ahead. NASCAR is trying to adjust the cars so that this tactic works better on short tracks.

Place

San Diego

San Diego is where the NASCAR 26 cover reveal event is scheduled. It’s just the location for the announcement.

Topic

cover reveal for NASCAR 26

They’re talking about the marketing reveal for NASCAR 26, likely a racing video game. It’s a promotional event, not a technical change to the real race cars.

Term

defending O'Reilly series champion

It means Jesse Love won the O’Reilly series last year, and now he’s coming back to try to win it again. Winning a championship usually shows he’s been performing at a high level.

Term

top 30 in points

In NASCAR, “points” are the season-long scoring totals that determine standings. Finishing “top 30 in points” is used here as a benchmark for whether a rookie is performing well enough to be considered successful early in the year.

Person

Jesse Love

Jesse Love is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are talking about how well he might do in his first season and what results would count as a good start.

Term

top 10s

A “top 10” means finishing a race in the first 10 spots. The hosts are using it as a sign that the driver is regularly running up front.

Term

top fives

“Top fives” means finishing in the first five spots. The hosts are saying that if a rookie can get results like that, it’s a strong sign they’re ready for the higher level.

Brand

Wood brothers

Wood Brothers is a well-known NASCAR racing team. The hosts are saying the team has had some drivers leave sooner than expected, and they hope Jesse Love’s situation works out better.

Brand

Penske

Penske is a big NASCAR team. The hosts are wondering if their strategy is part of why Jesse Love is getting this opportunity, and whether the expectations are being managed properly.

Company

Richard Childress Racing

Richard Childress Racing is a NASCAR racing team. The discussion is basically about which team environment the driver came from.

Term

top 10, top 15

“Top 10” and “top 15” mean finishing near the front. The host is using those numbers to describe how strong the driver was when he was younger.

Term

rookie of the year

“Rookie of the Year” is an award for the best first-year driver. It’s like a “best new driver” title for the season.

Term

next gen time

NASCAR’s “Next Gen” is a new race car. “Next gen time” means how long it takes drivers to get used to the new car and become consistently fast.

Term

gen six

“Gen six” is NASCAR’s name for a particular era of race car rules and body/vehicle design. When NASCAR moves to a new generation, the cars drive differently, so drivers often need time to adjust.

Company

RCR

RCR stands for Richard Childress Racing. It’s a NASCAR team, and “getting an RCR seat” means being hired to drive one of their race cars full-time.

Person

Carson Brown

Carson Brown is discussed as an RCR development driver who could earn a seat with Richard Childress Racing. The hosts also note he’s about to turn 18, which matters because NASCAR teams often align driver opportunities with eligibility and long-term development plans.

Term

development driver

A development driver is a driver a team is grooming for the future. They usually don’t start as a full-time main driver right away, but they’re building experience to earn that chance.

Term

ARCA late model

ARCA is a racing series that can help drivers work their way up toward NASCAR. “Late model” is the type of race car they’d drive in that kind of competition.

Company

RFK Racing

RFK Racing is a NASCAR racing team. When they “confirm” a driver, it means they’re officially saying who will drive their car next season.

Person

Chris Buscher

Chris Buscher is the driver RFK Racing says will stay in their No. 17 car for multiple seasons. That’s a big deal because it means the team is planning around him long-term.

Term

multi-year deal

A multi-year deal means the driver is signed for multiple seasons. It helps the team plan ahead instead of having to replace the driver every year.

Term

charters

In NASCAR, a “charter” is like a guaranteed spot for a team to race in the Cup Series. If a team doesn’t have enough charters, it can be harder to enter every race with the cars it wants.

Term

Xfinity series championship

The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s “second division.” Winning the Xfinity championship means you were the best driver in that series for the season, which often leads to bigger opportunities.

Term

road course top five finish

They’re predicting that Michael McDowell will place in the top five in a road-course race. A road course is a track with turns like you’d see on regular road racing, not the usual oval.

Car

Hyundai Sonata

The Hyundai Sonata is a regular passenger car (a sedan) meant for daily driving. It’s the kind of car people use for commuting and family trips. The podcast is likely talking about it because it was a common model during a certain time period.

Person

Josh Berry

Josh Berry is a NASCAR race driver. The hosts are talking about where he might rank among the sport’s most notable drivers, and they mention him in connection with the “two car,” meaning the car with that race number.

Person

Dale Jr.

Dale Jr. is one of NASCAR’s biggest names. The hosts are using him as a reference point for which drivers fans consider legendary.

Person

Matt Kenseth

Matt Kenseth is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are debating whether he belongs on a list of the sport’s most notable drivers, depending on which time period you’re talking about.

Person

Casey King

Casey King is a NASCAR figure the hosts describe as well-liked by fans. They’re talking about his personality and image more than car mechanics.

Person

David Reagan

David Reagan is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are saying they don’t hear much strong dislike for him, and they’re debating how fans generally feel about him.

Person

David Ruderman

David Ruderman is another NASCAR-related name the hosts bring up. They’re basically comparing how fans tend to feel about him versus other drivers.

Person

Trevor Bain

Trevor Bain is a NASCAR driver. The hosts say that winning a “500” was memorable enough to make him more well-known to fans.

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Howdy, howdy, everyone.

Welcome back to NWP.

I am your host, your MC for tonight's activities.

Joined as always to my left stage right by Jared Lundberg,

also known as the Iceberg Jarrett.

How are you feeling this fine Wednesday night?

I'm great.

I'm absolutely great.

Got the kiddo in the other room.

I think I told you before, we are officially a Wiggles and Sabumu Fu house.

Sabumu Fu.

That is a throwback.

That's pretty sweet right there.

I love that.

As fans watching at home can see, we are one, we are Sans Danny B.

We're down one man to start the show.

He got caught up at his day job, but he will hopefully be joining us in the second half of the show.

Just in time to talk about San Diego Naval Base Coronado.

We'll preview this unprecedented NASCAR event at the end of tonight's show,

but we've got a lot to get to first, before then, between now and then.

It's great to see everyone in the chat.

All our usual friends in the chat here from Spencer to TVP to Peter Strada.

Good to see you, Peter.

Pac-Mac, I like that.

It says I'm on a boat MF for Wow.

All right.

Hopefully, hopefully nobody goes overboard on track this weekend, but there it is.

Good to see you all.

Good to see everyone.

We've got a lot to get to tonight.

So I think we should just get to it.

We do have some silly season news from the past two days to break down here midway through.

Love that.

People are always rocking that the Texans logo.

Don't see a lot of Houston Texans fans in the wild, especially in the middle of the summer.

So it's always brings joy to my heart.

I see a like-minded individuals.

Yes, Astros won today.

Saw that.

That was good.

Good.

It's been a good sports week for me.

My wife's a big Oklahoma fan.

She's got me on the bandwagon.

Their baseball team is like one win away from the College World Series finals, I think.

And they were like an unranked team going in.

So I don't know what the heck is going on.

They're just, they can't lose all of a sudden.

So it's been a good sports week for yours truly.

It's been a great sports month for Danny Hamlin fans.

I think that's the understatement of the year.

Jared, let's just dive right in.

Third win in a row for Danny, his eighth at Pocono.

I mean, what else can we say at this point, right?

I mean, I think we're probably what, a five minute shower away from him winning the 602

possibly.

I mean, the dude's on fire.

And, you know, we'll look at the points later, but he has officially run down Tyler Reddick

and had to be about damn near perfect to do it.

This time at least he didn't have to go to the back to do it.

So I guess that's a positive, but I mean, you got, I would say that the, he's at his

absolute best.

He's been in his career.

His team is hitting at just another level, even with the changes with the team.

On top of everything coming into this year and how he said he wasn't focused going in,

well, he's focused now.

And if Danny ends up with that one seed, the field is in trouble.

Yeah.

It's, you know, I talked to him this week and he kept bringing up the Hendrick cars and

he think he brought this up on his podcast too.

He's like, oh, you know, some of those Hendrick guys, Chase looked fast, Larsen would go

to Byron at the end at some pace.

And then he told me, he's like, you know, hey, don't look now the Hendrick cars.

They're getting there.

So I won't, I don't think like this championship, everyone's obviously has Hamlin and Reddick

pegged as the favorites and they deserve that at this point, but still a lot of racing to

go.

We're not even halfway through the season at this point.

There's still a lot of room for the Hendrick cars to improve, maybe Orion Blaney, maybe

someone that we're not thinking of.

So this championship, it's not a foregone conclusion, but I'm with you.

If Danny Hamlin, even at the two seed, but the one seed, especially with that 25 point

advantage he'd start with, all those intermediate tracks, plus like Martinsville, there's no

road courses in the chase this season.

Like that final 10 race stretch shapes up real nice for Joe Gibbs racing and for Danny

Hamlin specifically.

So yeah, he's got a ton of momentum right now.

And I don't think there's any reason to believe that momentum is going to fade in the fall

might fade the next couple of weeks with back to back road course races on the West coast.

But you know, Danny Hamlin just a, just incredible.

He's at 64 career cup wins now.

He's now stands alone, ninth all time.

Jared, assuming he retires at the end of 20, 27, which still seems to be the plan, at

least retires from full time racing.

I don't know.

Do you think he gets to 70 or what, what win total right now are you willing?

Are you confidently picking Danny to get to for his career?

I mean, I think I said last week I was confident in 70 and now I'm even more confident.

Um, six away.

He's got if he retires 56 races to do it in.

I'll say, I think I could see him getting 72 if he keeps this pace up next year.

Um, I mean, he's got four wins so far.

We're not even halfway through the season.

The end of the season is like, I'm outside of Talladega, which is kind of crazy to say

before the next gen era.

It's a murderer's row of just awesome Denny Hamlin tracks the rest of the way.

So even if the Hendrick cars are on pace, he's still really damn good at, you know,

a gateway, a Martinsville, all the inner meetings.

There's four mile and a half tracks in the chase.

So I could see him ripping off three in the chase alone, let alone the 10 races

beforehand where, you know, I'm still waiting for him to and right.

I'm placing an over runner for that runner.

71 and a half for his career, something like that.

So I think 72 is a fair number.

I would probably take the over though.

I would lean that direction.

I mean, let me put it this way.

He's on a nine win pace for 2026.

Like he's on pace to win five more races this year.

If he did that, he would be at 69.

Nice.

Going into what would be his final season.

Very nice.

So if he ends up at, let's say he ends up at 67 or 68.

He ends up at the other funny number at the end of this year.

Can he win 56 races next season?

I absolutely think so.

But there's a lot of variables at play.

I, you know, Toyota is top of their game right now, but Chevrolet is going to keep improving.

Hendrick will keep improving and Ford's getting a new body next year.

Do they have any life still left with them as an overall company besides just Blaney, it seems.

There are a lot of questions that still need to be answered, but I asked the chat just a

moment ago.

It's kind of hard when it's only the two of us because usually I can toss it to Danny and

have him talk for a minute and write this, but I put a poll out.

I'll end it now.

Our chat just voted how many career wins will Danny end up with?

51% said he will end up in the low 70, 71 to 75, 38% said he'll end up with 70 or less.

And only 11% believe he will catch or surpass Dale Earnhardt's 76 win-tales.

So it sounds like most everyone's kind of there in the realm or the majority are in

the realm, the zone you and I are in right now, Jared, but there's a more balanced

poll than I was expecting.

Appreciate y'all voting on that.

Danny Hamlin had to hold off William Byron in the final laps.

He also had to get past Christopher Bell, one-handed Christopher Bell, basically trying to

to save fuel, ran out, come into the white.

I think he ends up finishing 26th.

They didn't have a great run going before that.

This was sort of a Hail Mary to make something happen, maybe steal a top five.

But Christopher Bell, the struggling spring, these rough finishes continue.

What's the outlook for Bell now?

Because I know we'll look at the points in a minute, but he drops or he's still 10th.

He's holding on to 10th, but you know, going into these road course races, health.

I mean, how do you feel about Bell?

There's just another kind of brutal loss for the 20.

I mean, you know, I guess a little cheating on the point side.

I mean, he still has a pretty big gap.

Yeah.

I, I feel like it's counterintuitive to say this with him having, you know, these

injury issues, but I feel like they need to just be conservative.

I don't feel like they need to bite, try and bite off huge chunks and try and

gain a bunch of points on crazy runs.

Cause, you know, he probably finishes a bit better than 26th.

Then we know that each point matters.

He's going to be hobbled for a good portion of the rest of the regular season.

I mean, you know, he was racing one handed and that was Pocono.

And now you add in two road courses in a row.

Brent crews on standby.

I just, I feel like them taking a breath and staying calm and just being

conservative and being as weird as it is to say, okay.

With 15th to 19th place finishes for a week or two, maybe three, I think is all right.

I don't think that they need to panic yet because they have a big enough gap.

Right now it's survival.

Then see where you are after Atlanta.

And I generally agree, although my only pushback would be, I still think making

the chase isn't good enough for this team.

Like finishing, like going in as the 11th to 16th seed would feel like a failure,

I think for the 20 team, especially with how fast they've been and how fast his

teammates been this year.

So I do think, yeah, I agree.

You don't want to push anything right now with that wrist and the condition it's in.

So you do have to be smart there.

But, um, yeah, I think the fuel gamble was great because they were probably going

to finish 20th anyway.

So the gamble they lost, what, maybe six or seven points when it's all said done,

but they had a chance at gaining 15 that they otherwise wouldn't have.

It was a fair gamble, but, but I'm with you in general.

Top 10s right now would go a long way because there's a lot of, there's been a

lot of attrition the last few weeks.

So if you can just string together top 10s, like Ryan Blaney has done, like Blaney

hasn't been spectacular in a month, but he's still third in points because he

keeps finishing 10th.

So if you can just consistently churn out solid finishes, it could go a long way.

You mentioned Brent Cruz a moment ago.

Sorry, go ahead.

What do you got on the Blaney front?

This blows my mind still.

He only has three top fives this year.

That is surprising.

Yeah.

We're about 16 races in.

Yeah.

Three top fives and 16 races.

He still has a ton of top 10s, but I mean, he has the same amount of top fives as

William Byron and Shane Van Gisburgen.

I was not expecting that coming into the year.

That is surprising.

Well, uh, back to bell for a moment.

You mentioned Brent Cruz on standby for him at San Diego this weekend.

I just asked the chat, should Brent Cruz sub for Bell?

Should he get in the 20 car this week?

And he's only 18 years old.

He's finally making his first splash in the O'Reilly series.

Could they put him in a cup car?

Uh, the majority of fans, I think agree with what I think is that yes, they

should put Brent Cruz in the car this weekend, but during the first caution

period or first break in the action that they, they get, um, 30% say no.

Presumably he's not ready.

Let Bell ride it out.

24% just say yes, that he should sub immediately.

I don't think that makes sense.

I think if Bell is at all good to go, you want him to start the race and

collect as many points as possible.

But, uh, I would not be opposed to seeing Brent Cruz get a little taste of the

cup series this weekend.

He's a really good road.

He's kind of cut from the same cloth as a Connor Zillich.

Just not putting that pressure.

He's not going to go out there on top five likely, but he can hold his own.

Like he'd probably do better.

No offense.

No, I hate to put this guy on blast.

He'd probably run better than Ryan Trux did subbing for Danny at Mexico city

last year, like Ryan Trux, not really a road racer by trade.

Yeah, that was a tough spot to put him in.

I think Danny even brought up in his podcast that, uh, that like they've been

leaning on Brent Cruz for road course stuff, like even on the cup side.

So it's like, yeah, you'd want him to be in there.

Cause these cautions are going to be so long.

You don't even have to really be in too big of a hurry.

I mean, the tracks like what over three miles.

So I mean, you were there with me at road America and that tracks a bit bigger,

but those cautions took an eternity and don't know how hard people are saying

it's going to be this weekend.

Just put her around in the back for a little bit, play it safe, let him jump

in the car and have damn near full race to make up a ton of spots.

He, I could see him getting the top 10 if he stays out of trouble.

I mean, it's probably going to be a survival race.

So give him the opportunity to earn you points that otherwise you're probably

not going to get.

Yeah, I fully agree.

Uh, we're looking at the, the points are on the screen right now, but I will

mention again, if we look at the finishing results from Pocono, it was a Toyota one

two with any Hamilton and Tyler Redick, the two best guys in the sport this season.

But then you get a Hendrick Chevy and William Byron.

Kyle Larson was fifth chase Elliott, I believe led some.

Yeah, he led some laps finished 11th.

Do you feel like the Hendrick cars are making notable gains on these bigger

tracks Jared, or is it still a pretty big gap?

Between them and the 11 and the 45.

It's a decent gap, but I think that they're visibly getting faster.

Uh, you know, I would say at Michigan, uh, you could argue that chase Elliott

might have been the one who should have one had he not gotten crashed.

I don't think you can say that at many other places about the Hendrick cars.

Kyle Larson was at the start able to get out in front of Denny Hamlin race up in

the top five a lot of the day.

William Byron had a lot of speed ran Denny down and based on what Denny was

telling you, he ran him down off of speed, not just because he was minding a gap.

So they're getting closer.

They're nowhere near that dominant Hendrick that I think any of us are used to.

But I mean, this just reminds me of the second half in the middle of, of 2018

where chase Elliott started coming on the Hendrick cars are getting from top 15

to top 10 to top fives.

And that's what they're doing, except they started out in a way better place

this year.

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause chase Elliott won that race at Walkins Glen

second half of the season and then went on to win two more races that year.

If I'm not mistaken, right?

He had three wins.

So yeah, to your point, second half of that year, Hendrick had more firepower

than the first half this season could be shaping up very much the same kind of

way.

I agree.

I agree with everything you just said, uh, legacy motor club.

Just when we thought, you know, there weren't enough Toyotas up in the top five.

Here come two more with John and a Nima check fourth and Eric Jones, uh, six, Eric Jones.

This is like a month, month and a half now of consistent top 10, top five

performance Nima check.

Good to see him finish a race, have a relatively clean day.

What surprises you, are you surprised by legacy?

Their sudden turnaround.

Do you think this is sustainable for an extended period of time?

I am surprised.

I know we actually, I think we talked about this on the show maybe a month or so

ago and you were bringing up like, you know, if legacy gets it turned around.

I think both Danny and I are like, if they get it turned around, but usually

it's like way later, but, um, I am surprised, but I will say Toyota as a whole is

definitely at another level right now.

And what I, but what I like, I will say is that it's not just one car like it was before.

Like a lot of times in recent years, it's like Eric Jones will run top 10 and then

it's like, Oh, John, her name check, where's he at?

No, he's 34th.

And then the next week, John, her name, a check is running 10th, barely in the top

10.

Where's Eric Jones?

He's 27th and five laps off the pace.

Like both of them are on the same page.

They're running pretty damn similar.

And the, the only thing that was getting one ahead of the other on the restarts was

just who got the best restart and whatever line they were in basically.

I mean, it was a toss up, which I can't say I've seen from legacy.

Probably ever since they've been under that banner, at least with, with both cars.

No, and, uh, you know, Eric Jones, I think are in 10 stage points, Nima check eight.

So they were like, yeah, to your point, they were up in the front, in the mix.

You know, they, they were part of one of the leading strategies pretty much all day

long and could hang with the best of the best.

So it's pretty cool to see how sustainable is it?

I still feel like this is a volatile team where if they have those setbacks, if they

have an issue on pit road, for example, like.

Like Denny Hamlin, we've seen him go last to first a couple of times here in recent weeks.

I'm not sure I buy that the 43 or the 42 are at a position where they could do the

same.

They've qualified better.

They've held on to their track position and, you know, at a track position race

like Pocono, that's enough.

So we'll see how long it lasts.

I do think they clearly made an improvement, but I asked the chat, will Eric Jones, who's

currently tied for the final chase spot, will Eric Jones make the chase this year?

77% of our live chat here say yes, he will.

I mean, I think I'd lean yes at this point because they seem to be ascending at the

right time, but I mean, he's got to hold off Joey Logano, Austin Zindrick.

I mean, there's some really good drivers and teams right around that bubble with Eric Jones.

Brad Kaczlowski, Ryan Priest.

It's going to be tough.

It's going to be a dogfight, but this is a new character that a month ago, I don't

think anyone expected to be part of this conversation.

So good for him.

To his benefit, though, the Fords are in such a bad position the rest of the year.

I mean, from Brad Kaczlowski saying they basically need a new body for any major

improvements at this point.

And you're seeing them fall down the points ladder.

I mean, the three following or the four behind him are all Fords.

And then there's one outlier, which has been the outlier for a couple of years now

as Ryan Blaney.

So that at least can be in his benefits.

I just, you know, I didn't, I saw it a bit coming into it, but hearing the drivers

talk about San Diego, seeing that we have Sonoma coming up, Chicago land, it's not a

new track, but I mean, it might as well be.

It's been so long.

We've never raced on it with this car.

We've, I don't think we've since auto club, I think that was the only time we've ever

raced on a surface as worn down to Chicago land will be.

And then Atlanta right after, I think the next four weeks are survival at this point.

If, if you can go three of these four races without a catastrophic finish and keep that

speed, I'll feel really, really good about Eric Jones.

My concern, because your point about him being surrounded by Fords, I think

that makes sense, but I actually think Ford is due for kind of a bounce back because

I think these last few weeks, these big ovals, that's not their strong suit.

Later this summer, we've got to run, I think of like Iowa, New Hampshire and

Richmond back to back to back.

Like that's where, that's where the Penske cars might shine.

And, and Chris Bushers or Chris Bushers, I guess he's ahead, but like approves RFK

can win at short.

I mean, Brian Priest, one of the clash at Bowman Gray this year.

So, you know, I do think in Atlanta throw that in their center, it could get a lot

of stage points.

I actually think some of these tracks later this summer might be more in Ford's

wheelhouse.

That's another reason why I'm a little surprised.

Nearly 80% of our chat said yes to Eric Jones.

Like I, I'm not saying this is a flash in the pan.

I'm just saying he's going to have to hold off some heavy, heavy hitters who I think

have a, a, a bigger, larger track record than, than the 43 does currently.

But it is, it's exciting that legacy has taken a step forward.

Clearly, Jimmy Johnson was excited about it this weekend.

He, he took some time to celebrate.

You'll know what I'm talking about.

We can, uh,

I'll show that one later.

How about that?

That'll be the street for those who make it through the lightning round.

Okay.

Sounds good.

Well, a couple more things about Pocono.

This race was moved up two hours earlier than its initial start time due to

threat, threat of rain, threat of weather in the late afternoon.

Pretty cool prime video.

It's one of the perks that they're more flexible with their TV windows.

They're willing to work with NASCAR to move because typically the precedent is

they can move it up one hour, but prime said, Hey, we'll, we'll go to, cause

they looked at the forecast as well and said, this doesn't look great.

So that was cool that we got the whole race and fourth straight sellout for Pocono.

Um, I believe that's, uh, four races in a row, but I just like the last four,

like Michigan was a sellout, Charlotte Nashville was a sellout.

I know the grandstand, the capacity is all very pretty wildly, but that's

pretty exciting.

Some early summer momentum, four straight grandstand sellouts.

And I think I saw San Diego, at least a general admission is sold out Saturday

and Sunday this week.

And I'm not sure about the grandstands.

Um, so that's a good moment.

Important thing about Pocono too is, is, you know, with them hitting, so they,

I don't think, I think they said it's a fourth straight year of a sellout, right?

For, for Pocono.

I believe, and I went back and look, cause they had said it was the most since an

X amount of time.

It means that there were about 105 to 110,000 people there when you include

infield outside camping grandstands.

I think that I want to say that the governor of Pennsylvania said that, like,

he loves coming here with his family because it's always the biggest sporting

event in Pennsylvania all year, which is just incredible.

But you know what I think this is, it's another benefit and we're seeing it

play out over now the macro rather than the micro one date for each track working.

It worked for Michigan.

It's worked for the longest time now with, with Nashville to smaller capacity.

It's now working with Pocono and Texas.

Texas.

Yeah.

Texas.

I mean, it's, you know, people might say, oh, the corners are a little sparse,

but it's like that's 80 or 90,000 people in there.

So that place still holds a massive amount of people.

Um, I mean, even if you technically, obviously there's a second

date, but the roval fell out so much, Charlotte with the oval and having no

all star race is like a pseudo one date track.

And you have a 100000 people every year showing up to that one.

So, uh, I, I'm gung ho on the 11 date per race track outside of like a

very few amount of others.

I think this is, it's a great way to make the dates really matter for those at

the track and I'll set home too.

It's like, if you're going to Pocono, like, remember when we started

watching you go to Pocono like twice in six weeks, you're like, God,

we're back at Pocono.

What the hell was brutal?

It was like that, that summer stretch.

It was like Pocono, Michigan, Sonoma, Oh, a bright spot with Daytona,

Chicago land before it got good, New Hampshire, Pocono, Indianapolis.

And it was like, how was it then?

Oh, it was bad.

And sometimes those Pocono races were 500 miles.

They were up until 2012.

They were.

And like, I mean, I mean, hell, I mean,

at one point, even if you want to go a week before though, that's where I

started with the Dover races used to be 500 miles a long time ago.

And then you had that.

It was the summer used to be a rough spot.

But long, long spiel shortened.

I really, really like what we're seeing play out with these racetracks.

We're a, that just just came to me.

We're about almost half an hour into the show.

And I don't think either of us have given like a real spicy take.

I feel like our viewers need something to chew on, something to get them riled up.

So I'm going to ask you this, Jared, is there a track out there?

Just off the top of your noggin here, is there a track on the schedule

that you still think could benefit from going from two to one date?

That we have two Phoenixes, two Daytonas, two Talladegas, two Atlantis,

two Martinsville's, two Bristol's.

I got one.

What is it?

People aren't going to be happy with me for it.

I that that's why I'm asking the question.

I got, I can say 12

So it's not, I'm not just going to put it on you.

What do you got?

So some of these tracks, I think can benefit from the car being better.

And I think people will show up because of the racing.

So I, there's a few, I'm not going to say, but Kansas, I know it is the best

racing on average.

Whoa, that is not the one I thought you were going to say.

Yeah, but it's, it's a spicy one, but I'll say Kansas.

I've been at both races.

The fall race has a lot more energy and maybe that's because it's in the post

season, maybe it's just because that's your traditional date.

I mean, when I was at the one where, where, uh, Ross Chastain, Pudge, Noah

Gregson, looking like dumb and dumber, that was it.

I mean, that and the finish, like the stands were sparse and that was probably

the best crowd in like four years.

Nobody really shows up to that one because it's either moved to where it's

really chilly in the schedule in April, or then you move it to May and you get

a hundred degree heat wave.

I think Kansas would benefit long-term from it because we're seeing the

racing is already starting to diminish a little bit in quality.

The stands already aren't there.

I think you could get 80,000 people in Kansas again with one date.

And you'd probably have better racing because you wouldn't, you wouldn't have

to use that spring date that can be hit or miss anymore.

Yeah.

I mean, I would not, so I first off, I think Kansas of the tracks I listed is

one of those that does, I think struggle to fill its grandstands twice year.

I think you could also put Las Vegas in the exact same category, but I hate to

take another race away from our West coast viewers.

Same.

I also hate to take another race away from anyone up in the northeast.

Are there any, are there any double headers in the northeast now?

Cause Pocono, New Hampshire, Dover are all one race.

Hmm.

Richmond's like, no, Richmond's one race too now.

And that's not going to be northeast.

So I hate, let's, oh yeah, I guess there are no options up there.

I'm going to look at, and it's, you know, I'm going to piss people off.

I'm going to actually piss people off.

I think everyone's just like, Kansas.

I feel like, you know, okay, let me put it this way.

Bristol motor speedway has always been, what's the selling point?

It's electric.

It's the last great Coliseum.

Oh, the night race.

You have to get on a waiting list to get a ticket back in its heyday.

Meanwhile, the spring race comes nowhere close to matching with the fall race used

to, I do feel like that spring date, there's an opportunity maybe to, to explore

other venues in the springtime at Bristol.

The weather's been very hit or miss over the past decade or so in the springtime

at Bristol, people are going to hate taking a Bristol date off the track,

but even the track itself doesn't even matter if it's the next gen car.

Those O'Reilly races aren't always bangers anymore either.

It's a temperamental race track.

I think if you just kept the Bristol night race, maybe for a year or two,

might build that back up into the, the kind of can't miss event that, that we used to see.

But, and it's not a big ratings winner in either race.

So I'm not sure the networks are going to, you know, the network, because

I was thinking about when I started this segment, I thought about saying Talladega.

I thought about saying one of the Talladega races could go because I don't

really like super speedway racing right now.

And the grandstands don't always look as good as they used to.

They've been better, I think the last year or two.

So that's why I didn't say Talladega, but also the networks would never

get rid of Talladega at this point.

No, that's why I thought maybe Bristol, that's my hot.

I mean, I'll go a step further.

So I had said how that was really pissing people out.

I didn't do it.

Let's do it.

Um, you know, I said the other week that I am okay, not even okay.

I'm fully endorsing moving Bristol back to August, doing it like that most years,

you know, like next year, I believe Darlington's going to be the cutoff unless

they cut a bi-week, which the industry is probably going to say hell no to.

So the, the run, this would be the run to the chase.

It would be three races.

It'd go Bristol, Daytona, Darlington, those three, all three

night races heading into the chase.

But I will say if, if you can't do that and you want to make it special still,

make that one your traditional one date, fourth of July weekend night race.

Move Bristol to July, Bristol, July fourth.

Ooh.

I don't know how the Tennessee locals would feel that that's when I'd

want to consult with the Tennessee locals to know how they'd feel about that.

But if they're on board, I'm on board from all the way here in Texas.

That sounds cool to me.

I mean, I'd be down with it.

You do.

If, if the fourth of July is a Saturday night, it's a Sunday night

race that you started at like six o'clock Eastern, you know, and then maybe

you have to do a day and a night a little bit on it.

But if, if not Saturday night, fourth of July weekend, make it a huge thing.

It's the, I mean, you could sell it as the biggest sporting event attendance

wise in the country on the most patriotic weekend of the year.

150,000 fans have that place with all the people holding those signs up with

the American flag USA like they used to do in the heyday.

It'd be an iconic photo that you, you plaster everywhere.

It'd be in all those edits.

On a big fireworks show.

Do they already kind of do.

Yeah.

They, they have like the pirate techniques before you might as well have the

big ass fireworks show right after the fact.

I mean, we keep trying to figure out how to make it special.

If it's not going to be Atlanta, why not Bristol?

I like it.

All right.

Sorry for that tangent chat.

Although I noticed we gained about 60 concurrent viewers during that tangent.

So I knew we needed to spice things up.

I could just tell, you know, everyone's it's, it's middle of the week.

You're going to, you had it.

We're going, we're all ones already on West coast time kind of laid back.

I needed to, we need to inject some spice into the show mission.

I said it on, on my post-race stream.

I mean, after even, even honestly, even after Ron Nashville or so getting

through that, like all the folks has been San Diego, right?

Michigan was still good.

So like that got us at least a little excited there.

But like this was a Pocono race.

Like it, that's the best description.

It was, it was a Pocono.

It was five out of 10.

Last year average.

I guess much better than last year.

But like everyone's focused on San Diego at this point.

I think so.

Yep.

And San Diego, Sonoma, we're coming up on Atlanta.

Summer here in a few weeks, like the Chicago lands return.

There's some other attention grabbing races coming up.

But before we move on, Pocono completely.

Well, what's that?

Where are you going?

Thanks to prime.

I go, that's how we started this whole segment was thanks to prime.

And all the great photos we got.

Oh,

Corey, he immediately, he immediately identified it for those for the

uninitiated at home, but his face there looks very unamused.

He sent me free.

Actually, that would have been really risky.

Give him a mic.

Oh, and then we got more.

I do love that they've captured the college game day feel better than the

other networks have that sign.

Man, I saw that.

I'm like, oh my God, I'm like, I guarantee you somebody's going to make

him take that sign down and like within 10 minutes, sign gone.

Well, hey, prime video.

I don't know what, what sort of like, uh, is it, is it at the FCC?

I don't know what sort of regulations prime has to follow because they're not

on network TV.

They're not even cable.

They're whatever streaming falls under nowadays.

I don't know.

Maybe they're allowed.

I don't know.

NASCAR probably wanted them to chill out a little bit.

Uh, yeah.

Um, before we move off, Pocono completely, quick look, do you have the points

that we can look at, Jared?

Cause there were a couple of bubble drivers who ran into big trouble at Pocono.

We didn't talk about either the, any of the big crashes.

Um, but first let's look at the top 10.

No big changes here other than Denny is only 19 points behind Tyler Reddick.

And then it's a mile and a half back to Ryan Blaney and third.

Um, but Daniel Suarez, Carson, host of our Chris Busher, like they've cemented

themselves as legit top 10 points guys this year.

So that's been, that's been pretty cool to see.

Yeah.

And I want to say, I think when you say mile and a half Blaney is closer to

Bubba in points who's in 13th than he is to Denny and Tyler.

I mean, it's just insane.

But I, I really think at this point, unless Busher really makes a run at it or

bell heals up quickly, or maybe Byron, he's like just off this list.

If they make some kind of big run, I think the only one really that could

challenge these top six into whatever order they would be, would be Briscoe who

has actually ascended a ton in the points.

I mean, these six seem to be the ones all year.

We're talking about getting good finishes, being consistent.

All of them have, I believe, I want to say eight or more top 10s on the year.

Uh, tons of laps led all, all of them have triple digits in the laps led

department, which not many others can say in the field.

So, uh, all, but one of them, Kyle Larson is the one that isn't have won this year.

And these are your class of the field.

Yeah.

I would agree.

I think these top 10 are pretty clear, but I'm with you, Byron Briscoe.

They're the ones closest to breaking through, I'd say for sure.

If you flip it to the bubble, this is where I wanted to talk about a couple guys.

So Brad keselowski, the free fall continues three straight weekends in the

garage this weekend, just caught up in a big mess.

Uh, when Austin Hill squeezed, I think it was SVG and Josh Berry squeezed them off

a turn three huge wreck.

I think keselowski, like T bone bubble Wallace or something on the middle

of the front straight away.

So once again, another bad points day for Brad, he's down to 17th.

He's now four points out.

Um, Joey Logano caught up, got a piece of that wreck as well.

He's still 21 points back.

So, I mean, SVG, he's plus 10, but he were going to his two of his best track.

So that gap will probably widen.

Eric Jones has been able to take advantage.

Austin Cinder, he's been able to take advantage, but I mean, Jared, do you have

any thoughts, observations, what you're seeing here on the bubble?

Ah, those 25 points would have really come in handy right now for Ryan

priests to stay in the fight.

Yeah.

He could certainly use those right now.

He'd be a, he'd be a lot closer than he is now.

I guess some of the others, um, you know, cause that's VG.

I'm, everyone's penciled, not even penciled.

They've like written in fine calligraphy and ink that he's going to win these

next two races and he probably is, but it's like every time we say that

about somebody, you know, some crazy things happen.

Like I was saying in a chat earlier today that like, we're going to say all

this stuff happening and then Shane's going to get taken out during a strategy

run, like at the end of stage two by Josh Berry or something like that.

Like it's just, you know, or, or, or Stenhouse or host of ours, like somebody.

But I would say this bubble is in serious danger of spots drying up quick because

SVG, we know is going to do well.

Even though he doesn't win, he'd probably be top two or three and get tons of

stage points.

Bubba's improved at the road courses a good amount.

Briscoe and that team are clicking a lot more again.

Byron and Bell are almost a full race up.

I mean, you could be looking at a 15th place and 16th place battle of those

ones being the only ones open here.

And I will also say 20th and 21st in points just off the screen, 49 and 54

out for McDowell and Almond Dinger.

These two races, if they don't perform, I think their season's done.

Like I don't think they make it up.

They have a chance to get back onto the graphic in the next two weeks.

And then there's also the chance that they will be permanently off the

graphic the rest of the season.

It's kind of pretty much break point for them.

I'm with you on SVG.

It's a lot of pressure to put on Shane these next two weeks, but I mean, he's

risen to the occasion so many times more often than not, even when he's off, he

still finished a second like he did at Kota in the spring.

So, um, but it is a lot of pressure.

Uh, like, you know, he's getting been caught up in some wrecks stuff.

Like he's, he's had those top 15 oval runs where we all go, whoa, he's figuring it out.

And then we'll have a 35th place run and you'll go, oh, can't afford to lose those

points.

So he's kept himself right there in the, in this, in the danger zone to where

San Diego and Sonoma back to back are, are hugely, hugely important.

Um, but there's a good look at the points.

I just asked the chat real quick.

This one was, I knew this one would be closer.

I asked the chat just now, Brad keselowski is in a little bit of a slide.

Will he still make the chase 59% say no 59% of our live viewers think it's likely

over for Brad, but that's a pretty close vote.

That's, you know, 59 to 41, you know, the recency bias.

Yes.

Certainly he's on a downward slide.

So that's about the number I was guessing.

Um, I had Brad missing to start the year, but I had that because I thought he

would start slow with the injury and then get better around this time.

The exact opposite has happened.

So, but I might end up being right with my playoff prediction when it's also

undone anyways, uh, Jared, before we get off the cup race entirely, we got two

final things here, the ratings.

Uh, actually I should spoke too soon.

We don't have the cup series ratings and we do have the O'Reilly series,

Pocono ratings, another huge win for them.

A 1.3, sorry, I don't have the rating.

I had their viewership 1.1 million viewers, a 28% increase from this same

weekend a year ago peaked at 1.3 million at the finish.

This is the 17th straight O'Reilly auto parts series race to get over a million

concurrent viewers at some point.

I think 16 of those 17 had averaged over a million.

I think there was one just under, but they still peaked over it.

Really good numbers for the O'Reilly auto parts series.

We'll talk a little more about that race in just a moment, but back to the cup

race, last thing we need to do the famous iceberg poll.

Jared, do you got the results?

I'll let you read the results to your poll.

You can go and read the results this week.

Let us know.

Yeah.

So about 10,000, you all voted.

At least that's what my studio showed the public view.

It's weird.

Polls are weird on all social media right now.

I know it's like Luxe polls, having issues.

Ours is a little bit with counting everything right, but it said 10 on my end.

I'll put a poll in our chat or live chat right now and just ask them if this poll,

is this poll weird?

See what they vote.

Well, 12% said this was a great race.

60% said good 72% net positive.

And then 23 average and five negative.

This is 6th of 11th, 6th of 11 pold, Pocono races.

It's actually the same mid.

It's actually the same percentages net positives last year, which I think is

wow, way off.

I don't know how they were so positive about that one.

Yeah, this is a better race than last year for sure.

10th of 18 pold, 2026 races, including of course, the all star race in the clash.

So on the lower end on that side of it, we kind of knew coming in, but interesting

note towards the poll numbers so far on the prime side of it, this is the lowest

one of the prime side.

The prime, the prime bump is real.

Honestly, I really think it is.

I mean, so don't get me wrong.

I thought three races before this were pretty damn fun.

88%, 92%, 88 and 72.

I don't think we've had a stretch of four straight races going more than 72%.

Since like that run last year where we had like that Kansas race, the roval, like

we have not had that this year until prime came on.

So definitely plays a role for sure.

Yeah.

We're looking at the comments.

Positive negative or meme on this one.

First comment was from law pug.

I've been on a roll with these.

I'm going to say this was the first comment, correct?

Yes.

I'm going to say, say negative.

It's a quote says, hey, that's just triangle racing.

Denny Hamlin.

That's a meme.

Dang it.

I should have known with a name like law pug.

What else should I have expected?

All right.

I did ask the chat, by the way, if this, if this poll was weird, 74% said yes.

So it's not just your poll.

It's even the YouTube live polls apparently.

All weird.

The top voted one from the cloud creation, a bit of a long one, but says, man, we

just got nearly 45 minutes of uncut live racing with no commercial breaks.

Prime has an undercover boss spin off with Ryan Blaney, the Larson double and

more shows about NASCAR and constantly knocks it out of the park with these

pre and post race shows.

It feels so good to have a network that actually cares about this sport that I

love so much.

Even middling races at tracks like Pocono become enjoyable experiences when

the people covering the race actually give a damn.

Can I add to that?

Cause I had that exact thought.

I watched the Ryan Blaney undercover special last night and it was good TV.

It was Sodom.

I've seen a few of those in the past.

You know, I'm adding in them to a, it's a fun little show, but no, I had that same

thought.

I'm like, man, prime video has poured so much money into this NASCAR partnership.

They also did, I don't know if you mentioned it there, did they, they did the

Le Mans documentary as well for garage 56 and the Earnhardt one too.

So they've done garage 56.

They've done Earnhardt.

They've done Kyle Larson, now a Ryan Blaney special.

Also the NASCAR versus the Navy 30 minute mini movie.

That was a prime exclusive.

I contrast that with our other broadcast partners and Fox Fox, they put some

effort into these in the past, but the best we've gotten from Fox the last

couple of years was another, the day we lost Dale Earnhardt, the doc you say,

okay, like it is almost self serving.

It felt like that because that was our first race and everything, you know,

just the difference between prime, not only their live broadcast, but their

original content spotlighting current drivers, like trying to turn Kyle Larson

into a superstar, trying to turn Ryan Blaney into a household name.

Le Mans had, you know, Gordon and Johnson and Hendrick Motorsports, who's still

very much relevant today.

I'm all for these, you know, the Earnhardt docu series was great.

Even the Fox thing they did about, you know, the 25 years later, both great as well.

But it's really cool to have a current partner that is spotlighting what is

happening today.

NASCAR is a rich, colorful, amazing history, but sometimes I do think NASCAR fans

live in the past nostalgia.

I think clouds much of our perception of what's happening today.

And so it's really cool to have a broadcast partner that's really focused

on the here and now in the future.

So I wanted to add to that.

I'm glad you mentioned that in the comment there because I wanted to get

that off my chest tonight.

Well, and even with the Earnhardt doc, like it was very good.

We had said before it was announced, we're like, are we kidding me?

Another damn docum, a documentary on the same damn thing over and over.

And they actually brought up stuff footage that no fan had ever seen in 40,

45 years or ever.

Like they brought something new to the table.

And I think what it, what it really shows and like you can compare it to is

when Fox was the new kid on the block for sports in general.

Look at, look at the innovations back in the day.

Like the scoring ticker was a Fox innovation for the NFL back in the 90s.

Nobody else had it for the entire game until Fox Sports and some of these

other new ones like ESPN, who needed to prove themselves versus like the old

guard came in.

That's prime right now.

That's Apple.

That's Netflix.

They know they have to actually win the viewer over.

And that's what Fox used to be like in the first probably 10 or so years.

They were trying to win the viewer.

I think it's just, it's this comments perfect with it.

What you said is, I think perfect as well is it's the first time that we've had

something new, but it's the first time that we fully feel like we're not being

taken for granted that, oh, they're, they're NASCAR fans.

They'll show up.

We don't have to give them anything.

Dangle the three car in front of them and they will, they will bite.

It's like, no, like I do love that they're giving Blaney and, and Hosevar and, and

Larson and others, you know, they're, they're time in the sun as well.

It's just, it's cool.

It NASCAR feels like, uh, like a trending thing again.

Whereas again, sometimes I think it's, you know, other broadcast partners, other,

you know, a lot of the NASCAR discourse in the amongst the general public is

heavily shrouded in nostalgia, which is fine, but it'd be nice to also be

looking towards the future.

Look out the windshield some two, not just the rear view mirror, so to speak.

Sorry, Jared, but I hijacked the pole, the, the, the gutter and all that good stuff.

What other comments you got?

Uh, Brendan says Hamlin v.

Redick, the new Mark Martin v.

Gordon 98 might need to get a few more wins, but the, the, they're, they're on a

toward pace right now.

You do them get to 10 wins like, uh, cause Gordon had 10 plus wins that year, didn't

he?

Oh yeah.

He had like 13.

Yeah.

Was that his 13 wins?

Yeah.

Uh, I don't think anyone gets a double.

This year personally, probably not.

I think six is, is still the high for the next gen car.

Right.

Wasn't that Danny last year?

Six.

Yeah.

And I think that's good.

I think that'll get broken this year.

I think like somewhere between, I think eight or nine is where we're going to peek

out.

Like I think we've, I think we've finally gotten past the parody age of the next

gen fully.

And now we're in the, the best teams have it and those affiliates.

Uh, Danny Alex says props, a legacy motor club.

They're clearly making gains these past few weeks.

It's pretty sure about football.

Palooza says I was at the race and I about fell asleep.

Well, can't please me.

It's Pocono.

I mean, it happens.

Yeah.

Uh, and brah.

I'm a pigeon says this point system is the best one our sport has had.

Now I love what we're talking about looking forward.

And I'm going to be like, I think it's, I think it's good.

I'm still, I will talk about the points for the O'Reilly series, especially that's

where I'm like, man, this dude deserve it to be reset.

Like just like, yeah, but I had to admit the, the, the points battle.

I didn't think was there.

And I'm like, Oh man, everyone's going to be dunking on people like me that want

to go full season.

Now I'm like, damn, this would have been really fun.

If it were like for all the marbles later on this year, but either way, I think

it's a massive improvement.

Uh, I don't want to take away from that.

I agree.

Twister had the gutter comment.

I'm shocked because I think Twister shows up here more than anyone else.

This was hands down the worst NASCAR race of all time.

And this is hands down the worst NASCAR season of all time.

I feel like it's either somebody who's just irrationally angry or is really,

really good at trolling everybody and everyone just falls for it every time.

I will say, I use, we all see the discourse, the anti Toyota, you know,

they've obviously got, it's something, they got something illegal in their cars.

It's all Hamlet's all red.

Again, there's, there's a large portion of the fan base that doesn't like Toyota.

And I get that.

I completely understand that.

You know, I'm thinking it's good that we have like actual manufacturer loyalty

in the sports still to this day.

I thought that was dead and gone, but apparently not.

That's great.

But I do notice folks are surprisingly quiet about Justin Allgaier and Junior

Motorsports is dominant, highly serious by comparison.

So I will say I do occasionally notice a slight double standard,

at least in the volume of the complaints.

But I get if you're not a Toyota fan, yeah, this has probably been a really rough

start to the season.

I don't know what of those two OEMs they drive for only one is made the most

part in America and it's not Chevrolet.

I think they're building a whole new like Toyota factory line somewhere in

San Antonio, Texas.

I was open it up in the near future.

I'm not from not mistaken.

I could be wrong.

But I are some of them big women.

I it's fine.

Where I live up here in North Texas, when I moved here a couple of years ago,

I'm like driving down the highway five minutes from my house and I live like

five minutes from the Toyota North America headquarters.

It's this huge building, big fancy like graphics, like they have like a screen

going on.

It looks kind of like airspeed a little bit from the outside.

But anyway, so that's up here in North Texas.

I just see it all the time.

I'm like, damn, like that is like the Toyota that other than the Japan Toyota.

I kind of intense.

I I give them credit.

They make good cars.

They're reliable.

We give them that.

And right now they they seem to have the most aerodynamic body in the cup series

right now. I don't know.

I don't know what the deal is, but anyway, that was the poll.

That was the cup race at Pocono.

Unlike that one fan who apparently fell asleep in the grandstands.

I hope nobody fell asleep during the first hour of our show here.

Super chat stage break coming up in just a moment, but let's talk about the

O'Reilly series race Saturday's race real quick.

Again, speaking of dominance, Denny's been great on Sunday.

Justin Allgaier on Saturday.

He just got his fifth win of the season, which already matches his career

high of five wins a 250 point lead.

Goodness gracious.

Nobody more patriotic in the garage than Justin Allgaier.

Apparently one point for every year.

The United States of America has existed.

That is Justin Allgaier's MO this year.

I mean, what do you make of this, Jared?

I mean, it's another impressive victory all around, right?

I mean, it's insane.

It's insane how far ahead he is.

I get that the field is definitely weaker this year, but I don't think anyone

was expecting somebody to go.

I think I made like a, I don't know how the math is working unless it's just

the amount of drivers in the race or whatever, like each week.

But I don't think anyone was expecting that by June 14th, anyone in any series

would be clinched into the chase yet.

Like NASCAR announced it on social media.

Apparently Justin Allgaier has enough points.

He's clinched into the O'Reilly chase counting.

Let's see.

Oh, 1234567 or eight races before.

No one expected that at all.

Um, new crew, as well.

I know he's working like he's a familiar name at JRM, but this is his

first year working with Allgaier specifically.

He is really, really, I think he heard us talking about that whole hall of

fame debate and took it personal.

So I just asked the chat.

Oh, go ahead.

What's your question?

Does he catch Edwards and or Kasselowski this year, AKA does he get five or six

more wins this year and catch them for, was it fourth and third on the wins list?

So he's sorry.

What he's at 33 for his career now.

He's at 33 five behind Edwards six behind Kasselowski.

No, I don't, because there's how they only have 16 races left.

They're more than halfway through their season.

He'd have to win at least five of the final six.

I mean, well, I will say once the chase begins, you won't have any cup guys

dropping down.

I don't know that may not apply to like Zillich.

He might still be allowed to race some because he's, I think there's a limit.

You have, it's only if you've had three or more years of cup experience.

I think is the cutoff.

I don't know if that's the road courses.

Yeah, no road courses.

And I think I did hear Zillich on Dale Jr.

Just show today.

I think only said he had like two more races playing this year.

So he's, he's had, he's won five and 17.

Can he win five or six and 16 with less cup drivers in the field?

Oh, that's.

I'm going to say no, because I think we're seeing like, well, that's a terrible

example of that to make.

I was about to say, we're seeing these young guys get better.

And I was going to say, you know, Brent Cruz, I think he's going to snag a win

or two before the end of the year.

I think that would not be a surprise.

And then I was going to say Corey Day starting to win races, but this is a

bad time to glaze Corey Day when he crashed on lap one once again, just a few days ago.

So, but, but I do think Corey Day is getting better and will probably win again this year.

You know, your guy, Taylor Gray is always improving.

William Sawalich is always improving.

There's the Sammy Smiths, the Carson Quapols.

You never know, maybe Rajah breaks through one of his, one of his races in the 88.

I think these young guys are going to keep getting better and going to put some

pressure on Justin Allgaier.

I think five and 16 continuing at that pace.

Again, before this year, his career high was five for a whole season.

So to suggest you're going to get 10, I don't know.

I don't, I don't buy that.

I'm not ready to go that far just yet, but I think you're the champion.

It's your favorite for sure.

Yeah. Where does it get then?

Oh, I think he wins at least three more.

I can see him winning three to four more races.

Five is a hard, that's a hard line to hit.

I think that's getting to 10 is going to be tough, but I can see him winning a couple more.

No doubt.

Jesse Love doesn't have a win yet this year.

He's going to win probably, even though it's a little bit harder.

It's lame duck now.

Me, I don't know.

He's probably going to win.

Where am I?

Where am I here?

I had the poll.

I did put a poll out there to your Hall of Fame point.

I asked the chat is Justin Allgaier a NASCAR Hall of Famer.

I just asked them this.

We got a over a hundred votes.

65% said yes.

He is a hall.

They're joining my side.

I feel like they're on your side to start when we had this debate in like February.

I feel like it was still kind of 50-50 more positive at that point though.

65% yes.

50, 15% sorry.

Say yes, but needs another championship.

That's the side I'm kind of on.

I think he wins the title this year.

I don't care how many more wins he gets.

If he wins the title this year, I'm ready to have the converse.

He should be on the ballot.

He wins another championship.

I'd put him on the ballot.

11% said maybe only 9% say no.

Say he's not there yet and likely won't get there.

I told you my side.

Danny B joins us now halfway through the show.

Danny, glad you could get away from your day job and join us here tonight.

It's great to see you, man.

You're jumping in right as we rehash the annual Justin Allgaier debate.

Is Justin Allgaier Hall of Famer Danny B?

Yeah, you're wrong.

I'm wrong.

Or the chat's wrong.

Who's wrong?

You over here saying he's not.

First, he just needs another one more championship and he's on the ballot.

I feel like that's fair.

I'm on I'm on Jared's side.

We can't be we can't be awarding a guy who has won O'Reilly championship

and 30 something O'Reilly wins no easy Travis backup a little bit.

Well, I'm not saying I'm saying he wins one more O'Reilly championship

and he's on the ballot.

Again, my take is if you're not a great cup series driver, a Hall of Fame

caliber cup series driver that doesn't disqualify from being in the Hall of Fame.

You just have to be elite in whatever series was your specialty.

And I think until this year, nobody would have called Justin Allgaier elite

in the O'Reilly series.

But if he wins another championship as to maybe gets a 31 day,

then I think we can have the discussion.

So I'm just saying, don't jump the gun.

It will be everyone's been a little too prisoner of the moment over here

because all guys having a good season, a great season, I would say.

I just I just call it how I see it now, how I've seen it for the last

however many years now.

Fifteen years and he's got less wins than Kizlowski and Edwards and Mark Martin.

I don't know.

Well, I'll say, though, I mean, that the competition, I think,

is going to get better as the year goes.

But unlike Cup that improves so much more in such a shorter amount of time.

I don't know.

I would say I know it doesn't.

I know it's a bad week, like you said, to say, I think the only one

that I think could rise to the occasional BigQuery day because he's high enough

in the standings.

But even then, I mean, I'll pop him on screen.

The the standings right now, they're really close from like second.

Second on back.

Yeah. Basically.

Yeah. Basically second on back.

I mean, it is it's a pretty close fight.

And if you have another bad day like love or day did of wrecking right at the start,

especially with super speedways on the way, a Creed, a Jones, who's been consistent.

Hill, who's good on super speedways.

Eventually Carson Quapo, we think is going to get a win.

Like these are guys that could definitely jump on them and shake that up.

So if they if those two fall out of the top three, I'm I'm worried about

their fight against all guard, because sorry to Sheldon Creed and Brandon Jones

and Austin Hill, but they don't they don't have a chance unless all guy

or blows an engine.

Sheldon really been pretty darn good.

I mean, I know he kind of hosed his teammate on the final restart at Pocono.

But I mean, Sheldon Creed's been pretty good this year.

I wouldn't pick him, but I'm saying don't I wouldn't rule him out as quickly

as you're ruling him out.

But if we're going to talk about all guy are not winning enough, even though we

have 33, what about Sheldon Creed and his one win total ever?

And it's at Atlanta.

I'm with you.

I'm but we're talking about this season and Sheldon Creed's win happened this season.

So I'm just saying I think he's you know, he could get hot for 10 races

and fall guy or a couple bad ones.

If luck bad luck catches up, I'm saying I just wouldn't rule him out as quickly.

You're like, no, no chance.

No, Jared.

Well, a chance.

Drop drop the standings for a second.

This needs to be said about the standings in front of us.

Uh oh.

Look me in my eyes and tell me again that Sheldon Creed could get hot.

I need to hear you actually say that again.

He's fourth in points.

You could argue he's been hot.

We're talking about getting hot meaning he starts winning, right?

I think he could win another race.

I don't think he needs to win five.

He's not going to enter the chase tent.

Another race is not getting hot, Eric.

Well, if he strings together a bunch of top fives and he's, you know,

remember there's a reset.

He'll be 30, 40 points behind all guy.

Yeah, he's a reset while all guy keeps winning all the races

and dominating the championship.

All right.

Well, let's see.

Wait, did Danny was Danny on here when we asked how many wins all guy

are we get?

Do you think Justin all guy will end up with 10?

He's at five.

Do you think he gets to 10 or more wins this year, Danny?

I'm going to say just missed.

I'll say nine for the year.

All right.

So there we agree.

We agree on that one at least, Danny.

We both agree he'll end up around nine wins this season.

Goodness gracious.

Danny coming out swinging.

Yes, I am spicy tonight.

I had to work extra late, but just so we're being clear, it's a whole

up better since my day job now involves me being at the same computer.

And not like back in the day when I was at a car dealership and that made

things a lot more difficult.

You all remember that from like one season to Danny B.

Now that was a interesting period for sure.

I just, I got to take Danny's role here and actually just sit down and

eat some popcorn and listen to you guys.

I was having fun with it, man.

I can't believe you made me, made it sound like I'm defending Sheldon

Creed.

I used to be the Sheldon Creed hater.

And now you got me just because I said he has a chance a year ago.

All three of us said we were completely out on Sheldon Creed because we were all

we all would.

We had to be.

But that's why I'm right to say you think he's going to get hot at the right time.

I said he could.

I Jarrett just said it was Jarrett was over here like the dude.

Like the moon right now.

Oh shoot.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

This is a lot of spice.

It's been a spicy evening.

Yeah.

I'm I'm late because out of context, Danny B blame JD Vance.

I agree with Wyatt though, down here in the comment.

I do.

I agree with Wyatt.

I appreciate you coming in here swinging the show.

If you missed the first 20, you fished the first 20 minutes, Danny.

Jarrett and I were like, we were kind of falling asleep here.

So we started arguing over which track should lose a date and that got everyone

fired up.

So you were just, I was watching that while eating my dinner.

You're just throwing gas on the flames.

So this is this is exactly what a unit needs.

I was waiting for Danny after saying that to come on here and be like, Martha,

no, Martha, wait.

And you pay.

Well, meanwhile back on the ranch.

Yeah.

Well, I think that's it for Pocono.

That's, you know, final restart.

I felt bad for Sam Mayer because I thought he had a top 23 car.

And I think he finished fifth, which is still good, but Sam wasn't on that graphic.

You should have a second to go Jarrett.

He's like around 10th in points, I think.

So he's on the other graphic.

He is ninth.

Okay.

He's ninth.

I sold him short, but yeah, there's a look at that for our viewing audience.

I look at the O'Reilly series chase still close.

Brent Cruz, Taylor Gray, Raja, fighting for that final spot.

Raja had a great run in that 32 car.

Top 10.

Top 10 for sure.

Good stuff.

But that's Pocono.

That was the tricky triangle.

And that was the first half of our show.

Want to thank everyone for hanging out with us.

We've got our first super chat stage break up next.

We'll just dive right in here before the show.

We got some super chats.

Really appreciate the support folks.

First up from Irvin Alvarado.

San Diego is a lovely city historically views of Pacific and lovely seals at La Jolla.

Look at the majestic blubber go.

Oh, NASCAR.

Yeah, cool.

Seals.

San Diego.

I don't know about what I call us that use that word to describe seals, but seals are fun.

Hoping to see some seals this weekend.

McGrewber, thank you for the for the five.

Can we please stop the Hendrick is catching up to Toyota junk.

They are not legacy is outrunning them.

Larson Byron won't win this year at all.

I think they're coming on a little too strong there, McGrewber.

I don't know.

I don't know about that one.

I think the Hendrick cars are showing improved speed.

I mean, Chase has two wins this year.

He beat Denny straight up at Texas, so it can be done.

It can be done.

And it might happen again more and more often here in the future.

Palm tree with a couple back to back says, Ty and Austin must have changed

grandpa's Twitter password that love.

Thank you.

No, it was pretty tame and I'm honestly disappointed.

Great.

Yeah, it was actually a good professional statement.

And then he says either way, can't watch live tonight, but hopefully get

to see some NWP folks in San Diego this weekend flying down from Idaho.

Super, super excited.

Have a good time there.

Palm tree.

Maybe we'll cross paths at some point on Sunday.

Then a few here from Jeffrey King.

Eric Jones after Walkins Glen was minus 69.

Now he's plus four on a roll top eight through 10.

Have a chance in the chase due to point swings.

Eighth, 10th.

I don't know.

You'd have to get real red hot.

Then to Danny's point, you'd actually have to win a bunch of races.

If you're going to jump from eight and win a championship.

Then also Hamlin should beat Reddick if he nails the next two.

If Hamlin can get top 15, he's in good spot.

Hot take.

I like Jesse Love, but he isn't elite.

Jeffrey King says, we'll talk about Jesse Love in the second half.

But I think Jesse loves good.

I think he's pretty.

Uh, Jeffrey then says, all guy is greater than Eric.

All guyer is Hall of Fame worthy.

This is my live, live Eric reaction to that.

Moving on.

Couple from Jensen.

I was thinking with the 21 team acting as a development team for Penske could RFK

adopt this approach to solve their third car issues.

Could medium sized teams use this as a way to expand and keep cost down.

So like RFK work with, well, they're now, they're no longer a Ford team, but maybe

you would have said work with Rick Ware to be like their single car development

team, or are you suggesting RFK?

You can't have four charters now unless your grandfathered in.

So I don't know, like treat the 60 car like a development car.

I feel like the 60 cars proven that they can run as well as the other two.

So I don't know that RFK needs a development car, but we'll see.

Maybe I'm maybe I'm missing the point of this comment.

Then it says a follow up.

I wonder if this is the future.

No unaligned single car teams anymore, only medium sized teams with a smaller

development team to compete with the standalone mega teams.

So it sounds like Jensen's suggesting RFK does absorb a Haas or Rick Ware, which

would be interesting because again, those are not Ford teams anymore.

And then Jensen says, enjoy the San Diego race, everyone.

Aloha.

Thank you for the support.

Thank you for the super chats.

Jensen will do a few more here before we get back into it.

Joshua Boston, very generous tonight, sent a couple of super chats says first,

if you ask me, I find it insulting that Jesse love is with the wood brothers.

Given their performance in the next gen era, I feel his talents are going to be

wasted in the 21, which is basically penske scraps.

And then Joshua, the very generous super chat says, in case anyone's interested,

Toy Story 5 comes out this weekend.

I have modest expectations, but we'll still give it a chance.

Plus or not, I've got Buzz and Woody to keep the toys in my collection in line

and in good company for Infinity and beyond.

I think it is this weekend.

I'm looking forward to it.

They've not made a bad Toy Story yet.

I mean, it might, it might seem like pointless to make it just like it's

pointless to make Shrek 5, but I'm probably going to watch them.

Well, Siri should have ended at three.

I wouldn't have been mad, but also the fourth one was pretty good.

So like, I don't mind that they made a fourth one.

The fifth one, hopefully it doesn't ruin that.

Yeah, I feel like that's what we said about the fourth one.

And then it was going to be out cards for probably before we know it.

Now that I am all for a shameless cash.

Owen Wilson needs another payday with Laird a cable guy.

Please, please, please, please.

Joshua's first comment about a Jesse Love.

Don't worry, Joshua, we will debate Jesse Love Wood Brothers here in just a few

minutes. So appreciate the comment.

Barncat, I'm going to drive fast and turn to the left sometimes.

Eric Cartman.

I don't have a good Cartman voice.

I'm not even going to try.

I'm going to drive fast and turn to the right.

I don't know.

I know it's more.

I just as dumb and I'm just as stupid and poor as the rest of them.

Bring it on, Erdhart.

Was that you in that inflatable suit on the prime?

Yeah, I managed to run back and forth between Longpaw and Pennsylvania and up

here in central Tennessee.

Nice, nice.

Getting your steps in.

Last two here for this super chat stage break at least, both from Robbie

Racers says Eric during championship week in Phoenix, you recommended a great

Italian spot returning the favor.

Try the taco stand in downtown San Diego best tacos this side of the border.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed the my Italian restaurant recommendation.

Great Calzone over there at a thing.

It's called Taste of Italy in Goodyear, Arizona.

I will be sure to stop by the taco stand.

The one and only it sounds like I would love some good tacos and then says,

if San Diego draws well, do you see NASCAR returning to Southern California long

term or should I expect Vegas Phoenix for the foreseeable future?

I say one and done just kind of like the UFC thing, kind of like the Indy car race

at DC, it's all patriotic love America, baby.

Yeah, this won't be a permanent staple on the schedule.

The only permanent presence NASCAR has down there right now is what's left of

Auto Club, but what's left ain't much.

So they just need to bulldoze the rest of it.

So sad.

I think the pros at this point.

Yeah, I remember wasn't there rumors a couple of years ago, they might try to

attach themselves to like to like the Long Beach Grand Prix or do their own race

out there. I don't know how realistic it was.

Yeah, something like that.

I do know at least no, granted, it's been a few months since I've heard anything,

but I do know that there's more than one project they're trying to work on out there.

I don't know exactly if they've gotten off the ground with any of them,

but it's not like the West Coast, especially in California.

It's not like that.

That is dead by any means.

Looking back on it, I can't believe we actually all fell for the short track

crap looking back on it.

That was never going to happen.

I think you're going to be putting in a compilation if it does happen.

I have been putting I've been putting more than a few North Wilkesboro

compilations and it's happened.

So I'm I'm going to just say it's not

on every side by a data center at this point.

It looks ridiculous out there now.

You know what?

Soon all of us will be flanked by data centers on either side.

I don't believe it was ever close to getting green lit, but I think there was always like

and maybe still is in the back of their minds the hope that maybe they could get

that project going, but I guess it would have to.

I think NASCAR wants to be in LA wants to be in Southern California, but it's

just hard to make dollars and cents of it, most likely at this point.

Thank you all for that first round of Superchats.

We do really appreciate the support.

We will get to the remaining Superchats at the end of tonight's show, but we've

got more news here.

San Diego talk in the second half first though, Jared, I think it's time for the

one and only NASCAR weekly podcast lightning round.

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Okay.

There's a lot of weather happening in Illinois right now.

Luckily not my old neck of the woods.

So it's just, it's like right in that perfect middle ground for now.

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Uh, for those asking about signups, they will be up sometime probably in mid to

late July, if not maybe earlier.

So that I just want to cover that now.

Uh, for next year, kind of off topic, but at least showing it's still going to be,

uh, doing stuff no matter what happens with the schedule, Chicago land

Speedway is doing a four day EDM festival in June.

So a July 4th weekend, even if it comes back is probably highly unlikely.

I don't think they're going to turn around in three weeks after having a ton

of people at a music festival.

Um, so if you want to take a little kernels for the schedule, there's that.

Warner Brothers and Paramount have merged our an talks of possibly moving

around sports properties as TNT sports might be completely dissolved over time.

Uh, currently the only one named is NHL games.

I believe TNT has some of those.

We'll be moving to CBS, uh, the main CBS station.

Uh, maybe this could happen to NASCAR.

Maybe they completely bail.

We don't know.

It's just, there's going to be some, uh, nothing will happen this year.

Obviously seeing how TNT's first race is a week and a half away, uh, and probably

nothing really for 27, but 20, 28 and beyond might be a little question

with the NASCAR TV schedule on that side of it.

Speaking of TNT, they made major changes.

Old Jim, jam, Jimmy Johnson is going to be in the studio for, uh, an analyst for

them for Sonoma, North Wilkesboro and Indianapolis.

Well, Jeff Burton gets cleaned up for Atlanta and Chicago land.

Marty Smith and Dale Jr.

We'll host the pre and post race show, uh, with, with, uh, Marty Snyder, Shannon

spake and Danielle Trotta, Pitt reporting, joining Dale Jr.

And Marty Smith in the pre and post race shows will be Steve

LaTart and Jamie McMurray.

So I think they, they probably heard some of the complaints or, or critiques

that a lot of people had.

And I got to say, unlike Fox sports, they're actually acting on it in, you know,

more than three to five business years.

Uh, NASCAR is going to update the cars for Bristol, Richmond,

Martinsville and North Wilkesboro, removing bumper foam from both the front

and rear, as well as cutting the number of bumper struts in half for these races.

Uh, this is done mostly in a, uh, aim to one, have more damage for just slam

bumping people that normally doesn't do anything, but also trying to make the

bump and run more effective at the short tracks.

Sure.

People, if it works out, be happy with that.

And the cover.

Yeah.

It is a big if, and the cover reveal for NASCAR 26 will be tomorrow night in San Diego.

So if you're out there, uh, I don't know if they're doing it like on the stage or

whatever, but I think they're streaming it on YouTube.

If not, it'll be on social media.

I really like a lot of directions.

I can go with that.

Yeah.

I, I don't know who they're going to pick at this point.

Obviously it probably won't be Kyle Bush, just cause of the quick turnaround and a

lot of sensitivity around that.

I know a lot of people have been saying that, um, I wouldn't be surprised if it

were like Radek, Josef, or Larson, honestly, but we'll find out.

I won't roll out the possibility of Kyle being there undercover.

They even, it was like a faded like, you know, car image or, or like a later

legends edition or something like that.

But you never know.

That's what I could see as like a later special edition deal.

But last year, if I remember, it was Byron Blaney Bell and they had Chevy Ford

Toyota drivers.

So you imagine if they're going to do three again, it will again be a Chevy Ford

Toyota.

I would go Lugano out of Ford.

There's my prediction.

Lugano from Ford.

Larson from Chevy.

Ooh.

Do you think Danny, do you think they put Danny on the car?

Do you think 45 year old Danny Hamlin selling video games?

Tyler Redick had a lot of momentum at the start of the year though.

I think it's, be Tyler Redick would make a lot more sense.

I think Redick Larson.

They're trying to find Michael Jordan.

What are we talking about?

I just, I doubt.

Yeah.

I, I, I agree.

I think that's probably makes the most sense.

Those three.

What if you just do the three defending champions from last year?

Like you do Hyme, Love, and the big one is Larson.

I don't, I don't want to say this.

No disrespect.

I know all three series are a big part of game, but did a lower series

chances that really going to push the needle?

That's my only question.

I mean, outside of NASCAR fans, who's really going to care what driver

it is, is kind of my thinking of it.

Can't even buy a game on a shelf.

So really, the cover doesn't even matter anymore.

Kind of screw it.

You're pretty right.

That's not a, you just go PS five.

Oh, there it is.

Download game.

Oh, what are they doing?

Okay.

Cool.

We should start calling it a thumbnail at this point.

It's more, it's more like a video thumbnail than anything else.

I kind of like that, honestly.

Yeah.

Oh, it says it's cleanest.

Oh, God.

If Fox sports is running it, sure.

I, if it's all, if it's all digital and thumbnails now, you can literally

just have it like literally program where it's a new person every single day.

Yeah, you can have it like every single time you open up the PS five or scroll

over, oh, new driver.

Oh, here's the Bowman cover.

Oh, here's the cleanest cover.

Here's the host more cover.

Customizable covers.

You can personalize it.

I'm just thinking it's like, oh yeah, we got our new NASCAR game.

Who's the cover athlete at Arca driver?

Next week, we will be on Danny's channel, June 24th.

And that should be a lot of fun.

APM Eastern time the week after on mine will be joined by special guest, Michael

Mertz, who I'm sure will be primed and ready to go for random driver.

You know, he's got some, uh, he's got some redemption coming his way.

Hopefully.

I don't know if we have to mute ourselves for this to work perfectly

because we might laugh a little bit, but in honor of, of Mike will come in on.

Why don't we play old Jim Jam for him?

Little, little 48 seconds or so.

The morning.

Hey, why are you?

I'm doing great.

I'm so happy to be here.

And what a incredible experience.

I was here in 23 driving, but to be here as a fan and soak it all in such a special,

special weekend.

What do you remember about driving here through the night?

Most on straight.

Can't see much in the distance.

You can see the corner, you know, for the chicane that's there in the history

that's behind everything that it deserves to be.

And, and like being a kid, I felt like a kid in that moment living it.

It's just the most incredible thing.

I'm going to be greatest lightning round finish ever.

That's funny.

It's too bad that that was a radio broadcast and not a TV interview.

That where we couldn't see him.

Cause you already know he was doing the interview like, like this doing the

hiccups and everything probably.

You know, you know, if you've ever been absolutely wasted where you like get a

phone call and you're like, I sound fine.

And you're, you're just talking in perfect English in your head and you're

hearing it.

And then like the, on the other end of the line, it's like the Kweilud scene in

Wolf of Wall Street where it's just like, do you know how drunk he was during that?

Uh, probably more drunk than I was on your SIM rig playing the SRX game.

Hey, I don't know.

You were pretty bad.

I'd say he was easily on levels of God job, Bard.

Oh, that's, that's a reference.

That's a good reference.

I didn't have many Twitter followers in 2018.

I'm glad I was on Twitter in 2018.

Cause I was sitting, I was sitting next to my dad at our fancy draft around

2018 Darlington race, man.

It's one I'll never forget.

Take his phone away.

I can't remember much, much about it.

I just remember what I was, what I did.

You better double check cause X has been glitching out lately and deleted tweets

are reappearing.

So you better double check and make sure they're deleted.

I never said it in truly bad.

It was just funny.

No, you didn't.

It was just, you know, really good time capsule of a more innocent time.

Can you blame Jimmy for being, uh, being, being in a good mood?

His, his two cars finished fourth and sixth Sunday at Pope.

It was a good weekend.

It was a mulsanne strain.

It was just great.

It sounded, that didn't even sound like him.

That sounded like, like an AI voice version of Jimmy.

So like some of the words were still slurred like awkwardly.

Like that was what it is.

Like he's drunk, but it almost sounds like he's trying to, almost sounds like

he's trying to mimic their accent as well.

Yeah.

What I love is, so I couldn't get the clip to actually show for some reason,

it wouldn't load in in the clip.

There's just this old dude in the front of the screen, just slowly peeling

a banana, like evenly on each side.

And I'm just the whole time I'm listening to Jimmy being like, what is

that dude doing to that banana?

That's a great clear way.

That was good.

Time for some headlines here on, uh, on NWP.

We've got a couple of, uh, somewhat related stories.

I've heard over the last few weeks, this is going to be a slow, silly season.

You know, hosts of our signs and extension, Larson

red excites.

It's like, okay, is anything going to happen?

Like are any of the drivers, any of the, any of the real like interesting

free agents going to do something?

Well, you know, we know about 2311 replacing Riley Herps with Corey Heim.

Now we know that the Wood Brothers are replacing Josh Berry with soon to be

NASCAR Cup series rookie, Jesse Love.

Welcome to the Sunday show.

Jesse Love, the defending O'Reilly series champion will drive the famous number

21 Ford full time next season.

Jared, I will start with you.

Uh, expectations for love.

Do you feel like this is a great fit?

How you feeling about today's announcement?

Uh, measured, uh, as an infant, so he deserves it.

Right.

And I'm going to sound like I'm, I'm contradicting myself and saying this.

I do think it was actually a positive signing for both sides.

So for the Wood Brothers, you get a talented young driver, wiped a slate clean,

maybe even somebody that could get the IAPN ski, depending on if, you know, one

of their drivers either needs to be, you know, stepped down or needs to be taken

off or whatever.

But for love, you're going somewhere that I think at this point, nobody has

expectations for, you're not going to have these enormous expectations placed

upon you that you got to be competing for the chase and winning multiple races.

And kind of all the things that Conor Zillich had this year going in.

Uh, so you're not going to have any of that.

You're going to be in a situation where even if you struggle, you're still going

to be able to learn in this car and you're young enough that even if it goes bad,

you have plenty in the future that, that you can bounce back from.

And if you do run like 20 second points, we're all going to be amazed.

So to me, I think there's a ton of upside for both sides with this.

I am not expecting anything to change though, because I think that the

Wood Brothers, especially once they switch to the next gen car have just not

been the same team as they were in the gen six era.

I think the important thing you said there is, is the word measured is I think,

I think you have the right expectations for next season.

My question is, will the rest of the world industry garage have those same expectations?

Because I still think there's this perception that the 21, it comes out of the

Penske shop.

You know, at worst it should be on the heels of where the two cars running with

Cindrick, you know, like this should be a top 20 team, flirt with the win every now

and then like this should be a contender.

Like when Matt Dabinadetto drove it, he didn't win, but he was in the playoff

conversation every year.

Paul Menard, he didn't win, but he was still in the playoff conversation, you know.

But I think that I agree with you.

Like I think at this point, the last five years have been so rocky, so up and down,

more down than up, very inconsistent.

I think now we can't look at this car like it's simply a Penske car.

It is a development car where a lot of the best people often get plucked and put on

the 12 or the two or the 22.

So I do think like expectations next year to use your word should be measured.

I think if he's top 30 in points, a couple of top fives, some nice top 10s, flash here

and there, I think that's a solid rookie season for Jesse Love.

I think expecting him to be running where Blaney, Lugano and Cindrick are is unrealistic

off the bat.

You just hope to see growth because that's the problem is the Wood brothers these last

few years, you know, Paul, you know, Dabinadetto is a better example.

He only got two years in this car.

Harrison Burton got three because he brought some funding, but even after winning a race,

he was still out, you know, and he was Daytona super speedway.

And then Josh Berry, he won a race less than 18 months ago and he's out.

So my question is Wood brothers Penske.

I hope they have realistic expectations for Jesse Love because all those three drivers

I just mentioned, Barry, Burton, Dabinadetto, their careers all kind of sort of hit dead

ends.

It felt like once their time with the Wood brothers was up and I hope and I don't think

but I hope that doesn't happen to Jesse Love in this case.

That's my only apprehension.

But if we have measured expectations like you just said, Jared, I think Jesse Love

could fit the Wood brothers for sure.

Danny, what do you think?

I think for Wood brothers, it's it is refreshing to finally have a younger guy coming into the

fold.

But I do wonder how much of this is strategic on the part of Penske to want to at least get

a young prospect like Jesse Love in the door and things like this.

Jesse Love has just been sniped by like everybody.

He was a Toyota development driver.

It's not by Richard Childress Racing and kept there for a few years and now sniped into the

Ford camp with Wood brothers racing slash you got to believe that, you know, Penske's

got their eye on him.

I mean, I mean, Joey's no old guy by any means, but he's been around to sport for a

long time.

I don't know what his future really looks like.

And I don't even know if Ryan Blaney might be a guy to watch for for a potential future

open ride to you just never know anymore in these days in NASCAR.

So you never know what kind of opportunities might come along that you need a guy like a

Jesse Love to be in a mix.

Yeah, I agree.

I think hopefully this is a good partnership for at least the next give him a couple of

years to show you improvement before you make a hard decision on where he goes next.

Hopefully he can bring this 21 back to where it was in the mid 2010s, late 2010s when Ryan

Blaney was a pretty formidable threat.

He was a solid top 10, top 15 guy in this car when he was young.

So maybe that could be Jesse Love's ceiling here in the next couple of years.

I put two polls in the chat.

The first one was a bad one.

I knew it right away.

I asked who wins rookie of the year next year, Corey Haimer, Jesse Love 90% said,

Hi, I'll do respect to Corey.

I'm I think a lot of that is car.

Everyone just says 2311 probably going to be better than a than a fourth Penske car slash

Wood Brothers car.

So I asked a better question.

Who do you think has the better 2027 season?

Jesse Love or Connor Zillich?

75% of the chat says Zillich.

Do you think that you guys agree that Zillich will have a better year next year with track

house?

Yeah, presumably with track house.

Yeah, I think it all has to do with next gen time.

And I mean, they talked about it up with Dale Jr.

It's so different than just the O'Reilly car, let alone the gen six.

I mean, it's I mean, we saw veterans like Kyle Bush, you know, yeah, he started off

well, but struggle with this car.

Yeah, we saw other guys that that we thought were immediately going to hit it off struggle

with this car.

So I think that for a young driver like Love, yeah, he's going to struggle.

Danny, do you agree?

I because I think I agree.

I'm a little surprised it was 75-25, but I think I agree that Zillich, that year of

experience goes a long way.

I mean, yeah, you would think so at least, but I mean, I just don't know, you know,

because we saw Ty Gibbs struggle for three straight years and now he's consistently a

top five driver.

So I don't know what to expect on a like Ty Gibbs, for example, we saw him get worse

his second season compared to his first season.

So I really don't know what we can or can expect out of these guys anymore, you know.

That's a good point.

I think it just the ebbs and flows of the car obviously make a huge difference.

We'll see if Trackhouse can pick it up.

If Penske slash Woodbrothers can pick it up, because I think we mentioned earlier, like

they'll get a new body next year.

Is that the turnaround they've been looking for?

So we'll see.

This could be a better situation.

Yeah.

We're giving them we're giving the Woodbrothers credit for it, but it's I was pushing for

that bowman to Woodbrothers.

But at the same time, back in my mind, I was thinking this car is going to suck.

Still ain't it?

I mean, I think it's fair to be concerned because they have been very inconsistent

the last five or six years.

So I think it's fair to be a little wary of them putting another rookie in that seat.

I mean, you know, the last few rookies, I mean, Barry was almost a rookie and it didn't

work out great.

Harrison was a true rookie.

Didn't work out great.

So I just we'll see if Jesse, the third time's the charm, maybe.

I guess that's I guess we'll move on from Jesse.

Love, I was going to talk about like, you know, who could get the RCR to, but I think I've heard

Carson Brown is likely a candidate for that seat.

He's an RCR development driver.

They signed like last year or the year before that.

I think he's done some ARCA late model stuff.

I don't know much about him.

I know he's about to turn 18, so he'll be 18 next season.

I would not be shocked, especially if Austin Hill, there's a chance you never know.

Austin Hill could end up in the 33 full time.

I don't know of that.

That's certainly probably an option.

So they have multiple seats to fill for sure.

I think Carson Brown will get one of the RCR O'Reilly seats, but otherwise,

I'm more going to have a NASCAR.

That's a good point.

Carson, we're in the Carson's and Austin's in the sport, aren't we?

Yeah.

Now we just need a Carson Austin.

Like somebody with that name, both names.

No, it's not too much too much.

But we can move on because there was one other notable driver announcement,

driver team announcement this week.

Yesterday, RFK Racing confirmed that Chris Buscher will be back in the 17 on a multi-year deal.

I don't think there was any like real concern Chris Buscher is going to leave.

There were a few reports out there from like the athletic, I believe, who said that there were a

few teams that had, you know, had some interest in Chris Buscher potentially.

We know RFK is in a sticky spot with the charters.

They only have two charters, but three cars next year.

So that, you know, wasn't 100% certainty.

Buscher would be back, but at least from my perspective, I think this is a really great fit.

Buscher has been with Roush.

They have a relationship going back like 15 years.

They want to know Riley championship together in 2015.

Since the next gen was introduced, Buscher's been their best driver by far multiple wins.

So I'm glad to see this pairing continue.

But what do you guys think?

You guys surprised at all by this news?

No, no, I mean, he's the franchise.

He's the franchise driver.

I mean, he's carried this team.

He's borderline been top five in points this year.

He has at times, a few years ago, he was running like fourth or fifth in the standings

when this team probably had no business being there.

If RFK is stable, he's a threat.

It's always been home.

Remember, he won his Xfinity series championship there.

He did go off to, you know, do separate things, but he eventually found his way back.

He found his way back before Brad Keselowski even became a part owner.

And now that Brad's there, Brad recognizes that, hey, as much as it is his team,

this is Chris's team too.

Yeah, Busher five wins in the last few years.

I think the rest of RFK has just that one win at Darlington with Keselowski a couple years ago.

We'll never forget what happened to you, Ryan Priest.

You want to, you want to clash.

Yes.

Priest want to clash.

So that counts for something.

In a car with a Coca-Cola that Lionel can never make correct.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, that's a sadly very blank die cast.

I saw the very red, bright red car.

It's pretty red.

Nice shade of red, but yeah.

Yeah.

So I think we're all in agreement.

Chris Busher, great fit with Jack Grouch, Brad Keselowski.

Good to see him back there.

You know, I was looking at the points or he looked at the points earlier,

but I was, I noticed this morning there are only two Fords in the top 15 in the standings right now.

Ryan Blaney, third and Chris Busher, seventh.

Like, and I think both those drivers got extensions recently.

For good.

As they should.

I hope they got paid.

I hope they got paid handsomely for their work.

Well, gentlemen, this has been fun, but I think it's time to get into our special fun weekly segments

here on the NASCAR Weekly Podcast.

That sounds good.

Let's start with our accountability segment slash prediction segment.

Every week we each make two NASCAR motorsports or show related predictions.

We keep track each week in our accountability session.

And we try to keep our predictions concise contained within a few years.

Do we have any coming off the board this week?

Jared, hey, I went one for one.

I said, Danny would continue his streak of top two finishes at Pocono.

Maybe that was a layup.

I apologize, but I did predict that before he won the poll.

Once he won the poll, I'm like, yeah, I think I got this one locked up.

Good for me.

Who's next?

Oh, Jared, three for three.

Look at all that green.

Said Larson's win this streak would hit 40.

And you made that a couple of like a month or two ago, I think.

I think it was like 33 or 34 at that point.

So he had a bunch of good tracks still coming at that point.

Yep.

And then you said the winners of both the Cup and O'Reilly Pocono races

will not start from the rear of the field.

All right.

So we matched out on the layups on our end on that one.

Yes, I think so.

And then said, Brian Vickers will make another social media post.

I did not see this one.

What did he say?

Him and his wife or not wife, new girlfriend, fiance, I don't know what the hell they are.

They were posting stuff on their Instagram stories,

like I think from like a Dave and Busters or something.

The story count is a post though.

I mean, they posted it.

I post a weekly promo on my stories.

My bigger question is, Jared, why are you on Brian Vickers Instagram stories?

You got to stop him for prediction.

Well, I mean, you see, he was part of these files.

So you get to just make sure you keep tabs because you don't know who you'd be friends with.

That's on files.

That's fair.

All right.

Danny's predictions.

Zany off the board for Danny.

Hey, what?

This was a good week for the show.

Holy crap.

Danny won for two, said Hamlin will win at least three straight races once this year.

He did it first time in his career.

And then said Alex Bowman would race for the Wood Brothers in

it was where the shot shot unfortunately missed, but still one for two.

That's pretty good.

Maybe last waking got him right off the board.

If you look at those, if you look at our year long standings,

you can see we're at best around 50 percent.

Jared's at 60.

Good for Jared.

Really strong week this week takes the lead.

I'm at 58 percent correct.

Danny at 32 percent correct.

But say it was a good day.

Everyone moving up all time.

Jared's at 40.

I'm at 35.

Danny still at 32.

Danny, you're very consistent.

I will give you that very, very.

That 40 for Jared all time just feels a little untouchable now.

It's going to take some time to catch up.

He just had a three for three week.

That's what now we need our own three for three weeks and it starts now.

I've got some good predictions for this one.

But I get to lead us off now.

Shoot, you do.

Okay.

So let me know if, if based on, on reports, if this is too layupy,

but I'm going to make a three item parlay for my silly season prediction to start out.

Gregson, Gregson in the 33.

Herbs in the 84.

Bowman, and I will add to this Bowman for sure in the 48.

So that if that's too layupy, I,

I, you're banking on three things coming right.

That is perfectly fine in my opinion.

Okay.

Cause I, I want to make sure we're a little more strict on it and especially for me.

There's been plenty of, you know, speculation and rumors, but nothing,

nothing's just been concrete set.

So I got no problem with that one.

Yeah.

I think two of those three are very, very likely.

I think the Gregson one is a little more 50 50, but I think because you're going three,

trying to get all three, that's, that's a fair prediction.

I'll give you that one.

Uh, my first prediction, Michael McDowell will get his third straight road course top

five finish this weekend at San Diego.

You're, you're trying to double dip on this one.

Did I make, what did I have already made a McDowell prediction for San Diego?

You said he, you said, well, you said he would get a top five in every road course race this year.

Oh, I did make that prediction.

All right.

Give me a second.

I think I'm up with a better one.

Give me, come back to me.

I'll, I'll, I gotta come up with a better one than that.

Okay. Well, you're thinking I'll go ahead and use one of mine.

It's kind of goes back to something we were just talking about earlier.

Kyle Bush will be featured in the NASCAR 26 cover art in any capacity that doesn't necessarily mean

what's coming out tomorrow.

I thought that's kind of what I made too.

Well, did you, the way I'm worried that he could be in like a deluxe edition.

I'm just saying he could be in any.

That's, that's, yeah, we talked about it last week that I could,

he could be in the deluxe edition or a special edition.

Okay. Well, then come back to me.

We're after a great start with these.

All right. I got another easy one.

I'll just say Connor Zillich top five, first career top five this weekend at San Diego.

I don't think that's a layup because no, I don't think so either.

He's never done it goes wrong.

Everything goes wrong for him this year.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's a layup that he'll run top five at some point,

but I don't think it's a layup.

He finishes there.

Okay. Well, then I'll go with this one here.

Flyover for Sunday's race will feature Morden six aircraft.

Oh, I like that.

Because it doesn't even have to just be in one formation.

It can just be like a crazy ass thing that they do.

Like here comes a line of helicopters.

Here comes a line of jets.

There come, you know, as long as it's more than six aircraft, I'm good.

If it's capped off at six, I'm screwed.

I like that.

I mean, they have so many.

There's got, this has got to be a huge flyover for this one, right?

They have to.

They've teased it when they first announced it.

They teased some like huge flyover.

I don't know what's what's standard.

You might say three to six jets.

That's what I'm saying.

More than six for this one.

Yeah. It's a good prediction.

I like that.

That's a good one.

Yeah. Um, all right.

This could come off the board this week or next.

Denny Hamlin will have at least one top 10 in the two road courses

in these next two races, either San Diego or Sonoma.

He's going to get at least one top 10.

He's, I don't, I don't think he's going to run there all day,

but I think he could finish there.

That's a good one.

That is a good one.

You know, they were not in Hollywood.

We're not in Los Angeles, but close enough, still Southern California.

A lot of nostalgia these days, top gun maverick top all kind of based around this,

uh, this whole area where, you know, there's a theme going.

When days of Thunder 2 gets made,

because I think there's a great chance it's going to get made here in the next couple of years.

My prediction is Jeff Gordon will have a producer

credit on days of Thunder 2.

I like that one.

I definitely think so.

I wonder who, if anyone makes cameos, even if it's just their cars.

And I'll even go a step further.

If they want to do the same thing they did with the first one,

do you think they would allow them to have like two or three show cars that ride around the back

of the pack, like at the start of the 500 or on the grid?

Oh, I hope so.

In the pack, like in the pack before behind the pack,

like if they go green for a few laps or they'll do what they did.

When they did the shot, the crew, didn't they put a show paint scheme on like a

the live fast car or something?

They did race and they changed the change in number or might have been Rick Ware.

I can't remember which one.

Yeah.

It was, it was one of the, maybe it was like premium, but where they still, I don't remember.

I mean, they'll probably get someone who lets me realize not going to be too much of a consistent

for like a coal custer or something like that.

Oh, it was a fire car.

It was the 77 back when the 77 was.

Oh, that's right.

That's when it was re-sorrencing.

Resorrencing, remember.

Wow.

Resorrencing drove it.

Okay.

One last one for me.

I know there was, there's talks of him being ready if needed.

I'm going to say that Brent Cruz will jump in for C-Ballet Sunday to go this weekend at some point.

That's also a solid prediction.

All right.

We rallied.

We regroup.

We rallied.

Put some good ones on paper this week.

We'll see you.

Stay tuned for future episodes to see how we do.

My days of thunder prediction, unfortunately, Jared might sit in your notebook for a couple of years.

Yeah.

I have a feeling that's going to be one that sits there for like four or five years.

I try usually, I usually keep mine very contained.

I went with a long shot, a timing long shot, distant future long shot.

All right.

Thanks for playing along, folks.

Now it's time for the chat to really play along.

It's time for random driver of the week.

Right, Chad.

Danny and I will not be looking at the chat.

We're going to try and guess Jared's random driver this week.

I need to get on the board.

I've had a rough month.

Tell us how good I've been doing, Jared.

Danny's up 44 to 40 all time.

Biggest lead we've ever had, which I think shows how even you guys have been, but Danny's on a heater.

So in the last five, Danny has three with James Buescher, Austin Cintrick and Danica Patrick.

Eric has like speed and I got you guys on Jim Roper.

So let's, let's get it.

I'm locked in this week.

I'm getting it.

Are you?

Should I make it a prediction?

Let me make sure I get the things ready, the sounders ready to go for you guys.

Correct.

Thank you, Jared.

Yes, I knew it all along.

All right.

I'll start off with an odd one.

R slash alignment chart fills rank this random driver as a driver fans feel indifferent about.

Indifferent about?

Indifferent about.

What a clue.

No, it could go anyway.

Well, what's the Reddit?

R slash alignment chart fills.

Okay.

I know the, I know what an alignment chart is like, chaotic, good, you know, neutral.

And they feel indifferent about this driver.

Yeah.

Okay.

This random driver and this kind of, it's kind of topical with the,

granted it's a different one, but with the 41 car this week,

this random driver actually was written about and has a profile in the archives of the George W.

Bush administration.

What?

They're indifferent, but they know HW somehow.

No W.

As I said, it was the other Bush.

They know W.

This is, these are the two most out there clues you have ever let off with in the history of this.

Yeah.

I'm expecting to sit here like he's from Canada or something like that.

Well, he did make a start in the Canada series.

Oh my gosh.

No clue, man.

Got a win there too.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Sweet.

This random driver is a huge Metallica fan, even naming the family cat Lars.

Oh, it's Matt Kenseth.

If it's not Matt, you just, it's thank God.

Yes.

Well, he had to do anything you could to throw you off.

I actually planned this one way in advance because look at the date.

I should have known the moment.

Oh, that's a good one.

It's Roush Day.

And yesterday, I believe it was, well, yeah, yesterday was it 100 and was it 23 years ago?

Was when Ford was certified as a company.

Good stuff.

Thank God I didn't choke that one.

Oh my goodness.

I was wondering if I did Matt before.

No, trust me.

I made sure I would save that one for like down the line or when I was in a slump.

That's what that wasn't the plan, but it worked out for you.

Oh, thank goodness.

People feel indifferent about Matt Kenseth.

On Reddit, I guess, but I mean,

they're not not not that one day at Martinsville in 2015.

They sure didn't know I was there.

They did not feel indifferent.

They did not.

All right.

When I heard indifferent, my mind initially went to Paul Menard.

I went to Todd.

No, I'm sorry, Todd.

We need to have the three of them just on a panel, the panel of indifferent drivers

with yellow fire suits.

I had a boy.

You were talking earlier about watching that, that Ryan Blaney undercover thing.

And there was a guy who was wearing a Michael MacDowell loves fire suit,

but he looks just like Todd Gillin if he had long hair.

I know.

I thought that wasn't him in disguise.

I don't know.

Maybe it was.

I tweeted.

I was like, watching the Ryan Blaney undercover,

but who the heck is Todd Gillin trying to fool here?

Do you want to hear how many times you get, we have tweeted about Matt Kenseth?

Wait, I actually am curious to hear some of your other Kenseth clues,

because they can't be obvious.

Well, so I tweeted three times about him, Danny Six, Eric 104.

Comically large gap.

It is like amazing the amount that we're like.

You had to go through and count all the tweets.

2019 on back.

I was going to say like, is he even raced in six years?

Yeah, but it was like the, the, and it wasn't like it was, you know,

even like late 2019, like you could tell this is like where everything's,

got to talk about what's actually on topic here.

So it's like from like May of 2019 on back, it is just a Matt Kenseth fest.

And this probably came through the searching specifically the terms Matt Kenseth.

If you just searched Matt or Kenseth by themselves, you might have found even more.

Well, so they do separate like you can have one of the two routes in.

Gotcha.

Let's see what else do we got here?

One of them was this random driver did not choose to retire from NASCAR initially.

The initially part is where I get you.

Holds the record for most slinger national wins.

Oh, that would have gotten that.

I think he's got eight.

Known to travel internationally.

He's run like the London marathon.

I think he's run maybe the Tokyo marathon.

Yep.

That was that was the one I saw at first.

One of 12 Iraq starts.

He won the.

Did he win?

Yeah.

And he won a championship.

Yeah.

And oh, four, right?

I believe it was never started the truck race.

New that.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then I had to make it a little easier, but one of them was nearly one in a

Riley title, but never had a couple of clues.

Dale Jr. got him.

Bested him back in those days.

I had a little like kids like book about Mackenzie as a kid.

And all I remember was like the back page had fun facts about Matt and it was favorite band

Metallica, favorite food Italian.

And I went, man, this guy is no wonder I'm such a fan.

He speaks to me.

We are cut from the same cloth at least on those two answers.

I don't remember the other answers.

I knew the Metallica one.

I was like, that was going to be my litmus test on how much of a kentus sicko Eric was.

I knew he had a cat named Lars.

I wonder, oh man, this is sad because he's had Lars forever.

I wonder if Lars is still with us.

I hope he is.

I don't know if he is.

I don't know how old that cat would be, but I knew he had a cat named Lars.

Matt, if you're watching, I hope Lars is still living or had lived a very happy and full and

headbanging life.

I mean, I put, because, granted, I will admit, I don't know your guys'

attendance history verbatim like off the top of my head, but one of my clues was

one of the hosts has seen this random driver win in person.

Yeah.

I only saw him win slinger.

His last, I think it was his last slinger win 2019.

Beat time, Majeski, last lap, kind of doored him a little, a little dirty, but I didn't give a shot.

I was like, I was my only chance to ever see him win in person.

Do what you got to do.

I saw him win that race that went to like 1130 at night local time at Chicago land,

and it was 30 something degrees, like high 30s, low 40s, raining all damn day.

And I was, I sort of got, I was the only Viking fan in the infield, and they lost at the last second

to the Bears that day in Chicago.

I was just like, this is, uh, at least can, and this is when I've still hated Kyle Bush.

And so I'm like, at least Matt beat Kyle, you know, like,

because I've seen Kyle win so many times too.

So yeah, there are a few other good ones on there.

Win percentage was on there.

I was going to see if you knew his win percentage.

Oh, I don't.

I want to say it's like 11.

No, that's not 11% is way too high.

It would be like 7%.

You got a guest, Danny?

I don't have a real estate guest.

I apologize.

5.6%.

Oh, of course.

Of course.

I was a little scared.

I would have said something like higher in here, because I didn't really have a good guest.

697 cup starts.

Oh yeah.

He got up to almost 700.

He's got to come back and get to 700, man.

Three more starts.

Just hop in after Casey Mears has done in that car.

Hey, hey, if he still works at legacy before, before it goes full time,

put him in the 84 for three races this year.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Or if, yeah, he'll die.

He can get five cup starts this year.

Can that, can that get three?

Yeah.

He just has to put her around the back and get to 700.

Do short tracks.

Take it easy.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Well, Jared, I appreciate you throwing me a bone on that one.

I needed it after a few rough weeks.

I would have been, now it was a risk, because if I had somehow let that slip through my fingers.

I, we might have ended the stream.

I can't remember what they were, but I had to go back.

It was like a stream or a video you put of like 20 questions about Matt Kenseth.

And I had to make sure.

I think I got 17 of those right.

I had to go back and make sure that none of my clues lined up with those,

because I knew that any of them that you got wrong, you'd remember.

And I'm like, I'm like, I need to try and make this an actual match.

That video is like seven years old.

And I do remember some of, I got one of the questions I got wrong where like number of top

10s he had his championship year.

I was off by like one.

I do.

I do remember some of the questions I got wrong.

And that was a set.

That's a seven year old video right there.

All right.

Enough about me.

Enough about my somewhat borderline obsession.

Let's get to San Diego.

Gentlemen, I will be, I will be at San Diego this time tomorrow night.

I can't wait.

Going to be there for a few days hanging out.

Going to visit with some family as well.

Amelia's coming with me.

We're going to go to the zoo, see some cuddly animals.

Also some probably slithery and creepy animals.

It's a zoo.

And then we're going to go to the race Sunday.

Going to vibe.

Going to take it all in.

Going to enjoy the scenic views.

Hopefully some great racing action.

Let's talk about said racing action.

Some notes going into the weekend.

NASCAR made a note this weekend.

They said they're going to try to speed up cautions this weekend to minimize the amount of time spent under caution.

Long laps, of course.

Brent Cruz, we mentioned earlier is on standby as Christopher Bell's relief driver.

Corey Hime, Jimmy Johnson and Kevin Magnuson will all be in the cup series field.

In the O'Reilly series, it's Carson Quaple in the one this week.

Austin Green back in the 87.

Rajas in the 88.

Jesse Awooji.

He's Navy, right?

The Navy man himself in the 91 for DGM.

A popular driver and Irysson.

Remember when the military came free for him guys?

And it is a triple header.

So in the truck race, Jimmy Johnson is also in that one in the number one for TriCon.

Adam Andretti is in the five.

Connor Mozak in the seven.

Brendan Gahn, this still such a random announcement.

Brendan Gahn is in the 20 for McEnally.

Jamie McMurray back in the saddle in the 25 for Ram.

Kligerman is in the 75.

And Justin Marks is in the Spire 77.

What a wacky entry list.

I just hope no one no one catches the back end of Jamie McMurray on camera this time.

Yeah.

Yeah, pull.

This is the first weekend all year that all three series don't have full fields too.

First time all year.

It's 35 trucks.

37.

For any lower series to get to.

Let's be real.

All three series are only missing one to make it a full field.

Interesting.

Well, I did.

I was curious, like, would the purse be higher for this race?

Like it is for Daytona and it didn't look like it.

It looked like the purse was pretty much standard as most other races on the schedule.

So I guess that makes sense.

It's a long trip.

All right.

Triple header, like I said, the truck race is the Navy 250.

It's a 50 lap race.

12 12 26 or the stage length starts 7pm Eastern.

That's 4pm Pacific on Friday.

FS one MRN.

It's inaugural event.

It's exciting to see who wins this first one.

O'Reilly series race Saturday is the United rentals driven to serve 250.

This is a 60 lap race.

15 15 and 30 are the stage lengths.

It's a 5pm Eastern start.

That's 2pm Pacific on the CW MRN series XM.

And the cup race is the I don't have to pronounce this the and drill

250.

Is this are they all the 250?

Is it just because America 250?

Yeah, because it's not 250 miles.

75 laps for the cup race.

20 20 35 or the stage links.

4pm Eastern start.

I believe that's 1pm Pacific time on Sunday.

Prime video MRN series XM.

That's the information going in.

This should be a short segment this week.

Our friend Jeff has the the forecast and yep.

Just what I wanted to see sunny in and 70s every single day.

Danny, does he have any other details this week?

Yeah, I mean the graphic pretty much does it justice for this.

He says Southern California will give the NASCAR fans a break from rain.

Very short and sweet.

Difficult morning June bloom gives way to afternoon sunshine based on what Jeff's seeing.

It's the usually low clouds at around 1000 to 2000 feet rather than the fog that can plague

Southern California.

Expect a consistent light west wind in the morning with cooler temps and higher humidity

allowing the clouds to develop.

Winds turn northwestern Lee each afternoon and as temperatures warm clouds dissipate.

Morning lows will be around 60 afternoon highs will be around 70.

I mean this is just weirdly pleasant for California in June.

I was talking to my dad and he used to live in San Diego and he was like,

I wish we were able to make it because it's just the weather's perfect.

I'd visit friends and we could go to a race and then the beach after and it'd be 70 the whole time.

So a guy I work with every day his name is Raj.

He work he lives in San Diego and he was telling me when I told him I had some storms here last week.

He said he was kind of jealous because he he went to he grew up in Ohio went to Ohio State University

and you know he would get storms there just as you know we do here and he says as much as he

loves that he also hates living there because the weather is just always so perfect in San Diego.

It's so consistent.

I guess you can get dry right maybe that's you know yeah bring moisturizer for your skin.

I don't know haven't spent that much time in California.

I'm looking forward to it.

I I'm so jaded after that inaugural Chicago Street race weekend the excitement going in

only for Chicago to experience its worst weather in a hundred years literally like it was unbelievable.

So I'm glad NASCAR is catching some good weather here for San Diego.

Let's look at the pick points.

Do we have those ready before we get into making our selections for this week.

I believe we have is it a new leader this week.

Is this is this up to date.

All right I guess it is.

Wow I didn't know what they were because you didn't update it in the Google Docs.

I really kind of forgot.

Hey this is I didn't want to.

The chat has a big lead.

299 points on the air.

I'm 17 back.

Danny is 20 back.

Jared is 22.

The chat did they get a sweep.

How did they get such a huge lead.

Uh I have it somewhere on me.

I basically like got a really good pick in the O'Reilly race.

And then everyone they needed to fall behind did and they yeah they got a sweep.

That's about I didn't want to say it but they got a sweep.

It was wow well it was rough.

Side note we are very Matt Kinza for points back.

It's 17 back for Eric 20 for me.

And then we're throwing in his old nemesis for Martinsville 22 in there just because.

Very nice very on brand for my for my channel tonight.

Yeah congrats chat but you know a monkey could have picked Justin Allgaier and Denny Hamlin at

Pocono the way they've been running lately.

Just saying but now you guys get the fourth pick for a road course.

That's uh that's not the necessary place you want to be in.

First pick is Danny.

So let's start with the truck race.

Danny who is going to win?

No it's not me.

Oh no I didn't update it.

That ended up my bad.

And Google Doc has not been updated.

So I am going on.

Did you pay attention?

It is me.

Is going first.

Thank you Jared.

Update the Google Doc next time I won't skip you.

That's all I'm saying.

You know what you guys proofread the Google Doc and we won't have to get in this predicament.

You know I can't read Jared.

How dare you.

I put down four picks because I thought I was still a points later.

Gordon at Google Doc so.

I made you guys do research.

I'm going to go Lane Riggs.

With the first pick.

Okay he did win St. Pete right?

Was that Lane Riggs?

That was literally number one.

No no.

One St. Pete and was the only one that stayed up at Lime Rock with Corey Heim before getting

taken out late.

These first attempts at road courses he's pretty damn fast.

Shay it's not.

Stop saying 11.

I've already got Caden Honeycutt guys.

Oh I was hoping he would fall to third.

It's a good pick.

I feel like I'm picking scraps after that.

I don't know.

I don't feel like there's anyone I feel good about after those two personally.

Third pick.

I'm going to take.

God it would be so funny to take Jimmy Johnson.

But I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it.

I had him wrote down but.

I don't know.

I can't.

That'd be so fun.

That'd be so fun if he was actually competitive.

He could be.

He had a good truck.

I mean Heim's won that one a lot.

We said that about.

I think it was the chat pick for Dario Franckini and then he ran like top seven all day.

He was pretty good that day.

Man if it was rainy, if there's any rain in the forecast I would take Justin Marks.

But instead I think I'm going to go.

I don't feel good about this and after a way he threw away that St. Peter's Bergwind.

But I'm going to go tie Majeski.

Well chat is going Justin Marks.

I see a ton of 77.

Oh yeah.

All right.

Y'all can have Justin Marks.

We'll see.

We'll see if he still got it.

Oink still got it.

Let's see.

Let's find out.

Let's see together.

O'Reilly series win pick.

I'll get the order right this time.

Jarrett who you got for Saturday.

Well a lot of those main guys of competition around the way.

I think he finally breaks through and wins it.

Brent Cruz.

All right.

Good.

Good pick.

Good.

Good deal.

Danny.

That was my number two.

So I'll just go with number one.

Justin Allger.

I'm going to go out on a limb a little.

I'm going to say Sam Mayer.

He was my number three.

So I don't blame you.

He's a good little road course racer low key.

Yeah.

Let's see if the chat swallows their pride and takes the one I think they should.

I don't think they will.

Are you thinking they should take a big bully?

I think they're going to.

I think they're going to Jesse Love.

There's some big bullies.

The boy is getting a fair amount of votes but I see the two more and I do 21.

Same.

Yeah.

It I think is love all the way.

The tunnel of love says the braid and bunch.

Okay.

Suck picks for the Cup Series Race.

We're moving on to Sunday now.

Brand new track.

They say it's rough.

I've heard from I talked to Brent and Poole the other day and he was like,

yeah the Sim and I racing both have slightly different configurations.

So we're not really sure what to expect.

Jared, who's going to suck on Sunday?

Don't say.

I don't like picking on him on these down by C. Bell.

Oh, that's not who I thought you were going to pick.

Okay.

Danny, how about you?

This one just screams awful experience for him.

No, Gregson.

I hate to say it but you're probably right.

I was going to go Brad.

Brad Kizlowski's been in the slump.

Not a great road racer historically.

Chats.

There's a good amount of 11s in the chat.

Some noes are coming in.

That was a good pick, Danny.

I think it's overwhelmingly Denny Hamlin.

They're going to sacrifice picking him to put him here.

Denny Hamlin is the chat suck pick.

Okay, chat.

All right.

Dark Horse.

Dark Horse pick for Sunday.

Jared, how you got?

It's going to be a weird race.

It's going to be a weird guy being the Dark Horse.

And he's actually going to end up probably with a good finish.

Alex Bowman.

I am in 100% agreement.

He's the only guy at an SVJ that won on the Chicago St. Course.

That's a good point.

That's a nice one fact.

That is a very nice fun fact.

I'm going to go AJ Almondinger because I think the years of him showing up and

winning these road races on speed are over and done with.

I think some of that's just Collig.

But he's been consistently in that top 10 the last couple of road races.

I think he could get in the top five.

So I'll go AJ.

That's going 91, Kevin Magnuson.

They're going to go Kevin Magnuson really.

Okay.

I say 171, but I saw quite a lot of 91s earlier.

Yeah, I'm starting to see more McDowell's.

I mean, either way, I don't think you're picking either of those guys.

So when you might pick McDowell, I should say there's a chance you could get a 3 in a row for 91.

No, 3 in a row for 71.

It's 10.

It's 9 years.

We're not holding you guys for underdog.

We're just picking up.

I think we'll go Kevin Magnuson.

It's a fun pick.

You'll probably never get to pick him again.

Probably not going to want to pick him for the win.

So put him here.

Yeah.

Kevin Magnuson.

We'll see how he does off the record.

How do you guys think he'll finish former F1 driver?

Sports done some sports car stuff lately.

How do you think he's going to do, Jared?

20th.

It's such a different curve of learning as well as the chaos factor.

And I think it'll be like just mid-pack.

Yeah, I kind of have to agree.

SVG brought so much to the table when he came and did this

that he was literally driving a car that was so similar to it already.

I'm going to say 15th.

That is if he keeps it clean, which there's a great post.

Like Kimmy Reichenan was running 15th, 20th,

and then got caught up in a wreck when he made his Walken's Glen debut.

But I think top 15.

I'll go 15th.

I'll go a little better than 20th.

Then who's going to win?

Let's get to it.

Main event.

Who is going to win the inaugural Cup Series San Diego

Street Race on Naval Base Coronado?

Do you guys hear that?

Do you guys hear what I'm hearing over at Jared's place from here?

It sounds like some monkeys or something like that.

Yeah.

SVG?

It's going to be Shane Van Kisberg and man.

I know he's the main man.

Yeah.

The only thing I'm pissed about of having to pick Shane this week

is that I couldn't pick him or Connor in the other two series.

Yeah, this is the one referee course to go first.

I was like, damn it.

Why are we playing fair this week?

Well, I'll go if the only other guy who's won a red course this year,

Tyler Redick.

You said the check.

Sniped him.

Got him real good.

I'm really feeling risky this weekend.

I don't know what's in the air.

I don't think this is a super risky pick, but it might sound like it.

I'm going to go chase Briscoe.

Chat thoughts.

Oh my gosh.

Are they going Macdowell?

They didn't get him for underdog.

I think they want him.

I see a lot of 88s too.

There's some zillich.

There's some board suddenly got a lot.

There's some tie gibbs.

But that's a lot of 71s.

I think it's Macdowell.

Overwhelming like 71.

I don't even think we polled this one.

No.

I can pop it on screen and you can see it there.

Oh, look, there it is.

A little tiny chat.

Oh, hi, guys.

A little tiny chat.

On air production means, should I just do this each week when we're doing the picks

so that they can see themselves on screen with the picks?

But not the whole show, but just for the picks.

Right there.

Yeah, I guess they're taking Michael Macdowell.

Yeah, go for it.

All right.

That's not a bad pick.

He's been top five in both road races this year.

Remember, he was leading the first 30 or so laps at Chicago last summer before the car broke?

Or else maybe he had something for Shane that day.

So something to keep that.

It's not a bad pick.

I'm just surprised it was that clear and concise.

Yeah, I'm surprised they all.

Yeah.

Everyone on the same page for a change.

Well, they're saying they're not.

I love it.

Oh, no, you guys.

Okay.

Well, well, take it up amongst yourselves.

And we saw like 971s in a row.

So I don't know.

I mean, I'm just being real.

If y'all, I think y'all made the better choice over Zillich right now.

I'm just going to be 100% honest with you.

Well, with that being said, we just crossed over the two hour mark before we're getting

to our final super chat stage break.

I just want to say thank you everyone for hanging out with us tonight.

This was a fun show.

It's a fun week looking ahead to a brand new exciting events.

There's just like this extra tension in the air, you know, a little bit of, you know,

emotions are high anticipation is building.

So it's great to spend a Wednesday night with all of you folks.

And once again, next week post San Diego, we will be on Danny B's channel June 24th.

That's 8pm Eastern time beyond at Danny B talks.

And the week after July 1st, I believe we'll be on Jared's channel with Michael Mroots on the show.

So exciting couple of weeks lined up here on the NASCAR weekly podcast.

Let's wrap up with the final super chat stage break.

We left off here, Bailey Riker says, I guess the Eric and Reddick show got replaced with the

Denny and Eric show.

It's been a lot of Denny Hammond reruns the last few weeks.

Calypso sent a few super chats.

I'd like to give Danny a big screw you for winning with those little yellow morons known as the Minions.

Wow.

Here's a little game for you.

Minions 3 is the 10th movie to sponsor a winning cup car.

What do you think the other nine movies are?

We know Dark Knight.

Dark Knight Rises.

Rises.

I'm sorry.

I'm fine.

Hold on.

Far Cry's movie?

Superman Batman versus Superman one right with Jimmy.

Yep.

And then there was the Smurfs one with Ryan Newman.

Did we say Madagascar 3?

I wasn't listening.

No, we did not.

That's one.

The clown wig.

Three.

I'm not thinking about it.

Did Trek II with Tony Stewart or no?

I don't think so.

It might have.

Might not have.

I don't know.

What's that?

When there are Star Wars episode 3 as well.

Yes.

The Yoda car.

Jeff Gordon.

Oh yeah.

I'm looking.

I'm cheating.

I'm looking at the chat.

Cars 3 was on Larson's car.

That's right.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

Now I'm cheating and just reading them all.

But we can just keep cheating and reading.

It's going fast.

We're almost done.

Wasn't it Indiana Jones with Kyle Busch,

the craptome of the King Kong skull?

I can't remember that one.

Hair is the one we would have never gotten.

Click the Adam Sandler movie.

I was at that race.

That was my first race.

Who drove that?

Casey Kane.

Oh my God.

It was a rain out.

It was 129 laps, I believe, rain out.

The same one that Dale Jr. did the throwback to Ralph Earnhardt.

We could have just scrolled because I see Calypso

then gave us the answers in their next super chat.

And I think we've gotten just about all of them here.

I don't think we missed.

It's still fun.

Oh, Jurassic Park, the T-Rex car.

We missed one.

We are not on our game tonight, man.

No.

That's I think that's the only one we missed though.

We're too busy throwing barbs at each other

to be on our games tonight.

Well, we got most of them.

Good job.

Group effort.

Boomerang says no power in central Illinois

watching NWP on YouTube by candlelight.

Going to pioneer.

For real though, it has been scary in that part of the world.

I've on my other screen here, I briefly looked at

Blight's room at Brandon Coppock, the storm chaser for a little bit.

And he was somewhere in the middle like Illinois, Indiana,

something like that.

And there was literally like a home in the middle of a road.

It was that it was that bad.

Geez.

I couldn't tell if it was like a regular home or trailer home,

but eight or way, very scary situations over there.

Somebody got forcibly moved.

Hope everyone's doing all right out there in Illinois.

Thanks for the super chat though, Boomerang.

Hope you're doing okay if you still have power in your phone,

if you still battery.

Speedy Turtle says the pit crew should be able to earn points

for the team as well, like the fastest lap,

a bonus point for the fastest pit stop.

I think they earn points for the team

by getting them out front on restarts.

I think that's the shit.

That's their job.

Yeah.

I think it's okay the way it is.

Because I feel like there's no,

we've been fighting to get away from gimmicks for a while.

We don't need to add more.

Yeah.

Cutter Guard says, what can you attribute Swar is a success to?

He's had more resources at JGR,

was originally the flagship trackhouse driver

and Stuart Haas had great equipment.

Best season since Carl retired for me.

I'm glad you've been having fun watching Cutter Guard.

I really don't know.

Sometimes it just comes down to, you know,

you get the right crew chief driver combo.

I know Swar is always,

I feel like he always had a chip on his shoulder

because he never felt like he was truly,

like his input was truly being valued.

And I think at JGR, that was probably true

because he was the fourth guy.

And Stuart Haas, he was probably the fourth guy.

He was only there for a year.

Trackhouse was weird just because it was,

you know, they were a new team.

You know, I don't know.

I think it is weird that he was so far behind Ross, it seemed,

because I think we all agree Ross is great,

but why was he so far?

Yeah, we kind of just forget about that year.

It's, it just must be a good fit.

I think at the end of the day,

Swar isn't got brothers as like when the Clint Boyer was with Turner Scott.

Well, I'll say, I think probably there's a bit of a weight lifted off him when

you're not having to live up to anything.

You're not having to live up to JGR or SHR or Trackhouse.

You go to Spire.

I mean, we all this year were like,

yeah, he'll be lucky to get a top 25 in points and he's just holding a seat for

you name the free agent, right?

And true, true, guilty.

He's got that off him.

Now he's going to become a dad.

You know, he's got a kid on the way.

It's like, the dude is just, he's living life high and

been pretty chill for the most part.

It's been chastain that's been doing the freaking out when it comes to the

former teammates.

Like, I think he's just, he's just at a good place right now and that probably

translates in the car.

Sure seems like it from Greg.

Greg snazzy gamer.

So super hyped to be in person in San Diego this weekend.

First time since I was a kid going to Fontana in the early 2000s.

I've been to a race so excited.

Wow, that's awesome.

That is a great time.

If it wasn't so expensive, I really wanted to go out there, but the flight cost from

Nashville were just too much just five for me.

Yeah.

From Andrew says, every track should get one date.

Yes, that includes Daytona, Talladega and Bristol.

I will die on this hill.

I mean, probably have to shorten the schedule a bit, but I don't know.

I like to be this.

I'll give you this.

I appreciate the bold hot takes.

We have proven, I think, the last four or so years.

We very much appreciate hot takes and reckless speculation.

Facts.

Gear a boogie says a Pocono cup fact boring edition.

Everyone who started in the top 10 finished in the top 13.

Sounds about right for Pocono.

Another one from Bailey said, Brad giving us real analysis on Bell was so nice

when we would have heard what's on the Wendy's menu from Boyer.

That was a good clip.

Good, a lot of data for the hardcore fan to crunch on.

From Ryan, it is real question is, did they remove that sign of the Logano sign on the

VOD?

I don't know.

Then blur it out.

I'm not sure.

Not bad.

I was a little tasteless.

Not even a little cheese.

I don't know.

David Bell says, I hope this is Danny.

Sorry, he doesn't mention you.

You are not on the show yet, but he says, hope, hope, Eric and Jared, you're doing well.

Apologies for my post.

I was told Sunday evening what was planned.

Yeah.

David got himself like a lot of that had a lot of people alarmed when he tweeted last

week that Bell would probably be out for a few weeks.

Sounds like Bell said, watch this.

Uh-uh.

I'll show you dad.

Watch this.

Tough son of a gun.

Absolutely.

Blue Deuce says, Stenhouse has had an underrated couple of months.

He's had a couple of top tens in a row before Pocono.

I don't know where he finished at Pocono.

I think he was like 15th, something like that.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Snappy says, all guys should take a race off and join the CW booth as the points we

are all sipping on high rock vodka and just trashing his competitors.

If the ladies good enough, they could.

That's a bad thing.

Just trolling.

Yeah.

Wow.

Let me see.

Where's the, I can actually probably tell you when he could,

clinch the one seed and just take time off.

If a driver literally had a major lead going into Miami,

what's the stop then from just being like,

now I'm just going to watch this one from the booth.

I mean, is there any rule about skipping a chase race and being eligible?

I mean, he's, let's see, points wise.

You just start and park it and be like, I'm going up to booth.

See you later.

So 250 is his lead.

There's a real chance if he performs well the next few races,

that he'll have the regular season title locked up before Chicago in.

Lovely.

Next super chat.

I bolt.

Oh boy.

Says now I want Danny to look Eric in the eyes and tell him exactly how Daniel

Hemric won his first O'Reilly championship.

Okay.

Gladly.

Eric, Daniel Hemric had never won a race before and he found himself positioned in

a nice spot to be in the championship for in an old format we no longer use.

And he happy to win his very first career NASCAR Xfinity series race at a time when he

won a championship.

Okay.

I did it.

Wasn't that hard?

I wouldn't have used Daniel Hemric to back up my argument earlier, but yeah.

Now I really don't get the flex on that.

Like it's an old format that we knew was long to use for reasons.

It is an old format exactly, but that doesn't really, you know,

if you're shelled, if you're fourth in points, you can top five your way to homestead.

That's very possible under this new format.

Even, you know, I'm just saying, Nick, thanks for the super chat for Danny.

I've come up with a freelance railroad name.

It's the central Utah, North Texas.

I'd love to read it up on the name.

I see the acronym.

I don't think it's gonna pass the smell.

Just like the good old Burlington, Northern Santa Fe, BNFF.

What is that one spell?

Oh, see you next Tuesday.

From Matt says, seeing that zone scheme with the 33 instead of the eight hit me harder than

every other 33 race.

That one was harder to see me and Claudia both bought the same thing.

Absolutely.

It's wild how even though that scheme was only around like last two years, basically,

like it still became that recognizable.

And so to see it with a different driver, a different number was very weird.

That would be, you know, M&M's is a sponsor that was on a lot of different cars in its time,

but it was mainly Sonatas for the 18th.

If I ever saw M&M's come back to NASCAR,

it would just be hard to see it without thinking of Kyle Busch's car.

Yeah.

David Bell with another super chat said, hope you all are doing great.

Spicy Danny B. Jared, Eric, hope everyone has a great Father's Day.

Stay safe in those areas of bad storms.

Yes, we echo that as well.

And yes, I guess San Diego Sunday is also Father's Day.

So happy Father's Day to you, Jared, the father of the trio here.

And we used to joke that Danny was like the dad of this show,

but Jared literally is the only father on the show.

For now, we all get there one day.

To everyone else, everyone else out there.

Our days are coming.

And then from Pac-Max says, Eric must be running for president of the Sheldon Creed fan club.

Just a matter of which Creed really deserves his appreciation the most.

All guyer for Hall of Fame.

Okay.

All right.

I'm not rooting against the guy.

I'm just saying, just saying.

It's going to need a little more.

Thinking of the bad storms.

I'm looking at my radar right now and for those who might be near Indianapolis-ish,

south of Indianapolis, there's actually a confirmed tornado on the ground just outside

of Martinsville, Indiana.

So not the Martinville we race at, but Martinville, Indiana.

There's one on the ground right now.

That one is confirmed.

There's another one kind of at the Illinois-Indiana border that is

radar-indicated rotation around Robinson and Sullivan.

And there's also one, there's a radar-indicated rotation tornado around Effingham.

I think they had one there earlier.

I've seen some videos of, from there of one that went through there earlier.

So just beyond the, beyond the lookout if you're around Illinois, Indianapolis, that kind of area.

Hang in there folks.

Yeah.

Goodness gracious.

I used to have such a, like an irrational fear of tornadoes as a kid.

And I only say irrational because where I grew up, we don't get tornadoes,

but I was like terrified of them.

I think it was the Wizard of Oz or something drilled that into me.

I was scared of tornadoes.

But so everyone be safe out there from Bill.

I think that's where we left off.

If NASCAR wants a road course and to be in Southern California,

please, for the love of everything, Holy, please go to Laguna Seca.

We'll be dealing with the same problems the fairgrounds have actually.

Oh really?

I don't know much about politics going on over there.

It's bad.

There's an entire coalition that basically built an entire new neighborhood right next to the track

nearby and then has been filing noise complaints.

And every time anything that they file is denied,

they immediately refile everything and just keep the track and constant back and forth with it.

It's terrible.

Hey, I'm just throwing us out here right now.

I'm a lack.

I see in the chat all the time.

Hey, just said, Oh God, I live close to Martinsville, Indiana and Bloomington, Indiana.

You better take cover.

Bloomington actually just went underneath this tornado warning, the one that's confirmed.

It's actually headed south face.

I thought it was heading more east.

Now that one's headed right towards Bloomington.

Gosh, be safe out there, Malik.

Danny B, emergency services over here on the podcast.

We need that scary like, like,

like a public service.

Turn us off and run on Ryan Hall.

That's what I tell you right now.

If you're right there in Bloomington.

Probably a good call.

Not going to lie.

From APC, my prediction for the NASCAR 26 cover, Elliott, Redick and Legano.

Ford got to put your most popular guy on the cover, right?

Is Joey Legano their most popular driver?

Maybe.

I don't know.

Jackson Thomas says, Random NASCAR trivia.

How many flags are used in a NASCAR race?

For just talking the main ones, would it be eight?

Yeah, it's gotta be like seven or eight.

There's green, white, checkered, red, yellow, the blue with the little line,

stage caution, green and white checkered.

I think I said black.

Did I say black?

No, I don't think so.

That would be eight.

So I think you're right.

We'll get to the answer, I guess.

I guess, actually, wait where we are.

Let's see.

Follow up question include procedural flags like pit road practice sessions, etc.

Oh, come on.

Are there additional flags like pit road?

Maybe has like a green and or a red flag.

But they usually use a light, right?

Yeah, nowadays, the flags are almost just like.

I'm going to say we're going to feel like the answer is eight, but maybe maybe Jackson can

let us know if they had something else in mind.

We'll continue on here.

Indy Carson says, Hey, NWP Pocono O'Reilly, all guy are annihilated the field cup.

He's going to do it.

Denny showing why he's the best driver at Pocono.

As Ned Jarrett would say, since it's the number 11.

Yeah, Danny, eighth Pocono win.

He might argue his ninth still pretty impressive regardless.

Then Indy Carson says, Eric, have fun at the San Diego race.

Little surprise, the track won't allow fans on Friday except military, but the way some tracks are.

Well, it's on their home.

No, it's it.

Yeah, it's it's actually like a day for like families and and actually like opening up some

tickets that they had left over.

Yeah.

The fact that there are actually some fans allowed on is really cool of them.

Yeah.

So that's us.

That's us a normal base thing.

Chris John says, I would personally choose Retzloff to go to the RCR to do deserves a chance

and top tier equipment could be interesting.

Although him being in a legacy fire suit a few weeks ago is I don't know if that throws a wrench

into those plans, but yeah, all things considered, I think Retzloff and the two would be any

interesting combo.

Jeffrey says, I do think love would win races in the number two.

Petski car.

Well, yeah, that's a house car.

You expect that to be a little better than 21, but I'm not going to roll out.

I'm not going to roll out the Austin's Hendrick might eventually be elsewhere.

So I wouldn't either.

I think there's, I don't know, Petski's an interesting spot, especially if they keep

lagging behind the Hendrick and Gibbs and 2311s of the world.

Indy Carson, I'm not concerned about getting to San Diego tracks since I've always been to

since I've already been to between 20 to 30 cup tracks in my life.

I'm also going to be at Road America for Indy car anyway, since I only drive an hour and a half.

We'll have fun up there.

Road America.

That's one of our favorite tracks that we went to a few years back.

So have fun 20 to 30.

That's a lot of, I don't know how many I've been to.

I don't think I've been to that many.

I'm probably at like maybe 20.

I don't know.

I'm in the teens.

I know.

Yeah, I should like track.

I should write that down and like to actually track it one day.

Jeffrey King says, Hamlin Reddick better watch it.

Fire in his gaining.

Well, huge points deficit.

But yeah, speed wise, he's looking a little closer.

Another one from Crest John.

I would also love to see Nick Sanchez for consideration for the two, but it might be unlikely.

He drove the two in a truck.

So true.

True.

Rowdy eight diecasts.

Honestly, I haven't consumed much NASCAR content since KB past.

It's been difficult for me to watch without him, but watching y'all's content helped ease the pain.

So just wanted to show my appreciation for you guys.

Well, that's very nice of you.

I haven't seen you in a while and here will.

And I do got to say before what happened, you mentioned something to us that you had been to

like four races in a row and how crazy you thought it was.

Looking back on it, man, I'm so glad you did because you got to see in races last four races.

Yeah, but we're thinking of you.

Hope you're doing all right.

We appreciate the kind words.

The nice, the nice comment.

This one's kind of funny.

I like this one here from B. Moe.

Who is on the Mount Rushmore of indifferent drivers?

Got to put Paul Menard up there.

Yeah. Paul Menard is the George Washington.

It's such an asshole thing to say and out of context.

I see people in the chat are talking about Josh Berry to the two car.

I think Josh Berry could be on that Mount Rushmore of, I don't know, he's got the Dale Jr.

No, they got the day he's got the Jr.

And I would have said, I will say before he started, you know, fighting people and taking heads,

Matt Kenseth probably would be on a lot of people's lists,

but there's no way that I look at mid and late 2010s.

Matt Kenseth and can in any way feel indifferent.

That man was possessed.

Am I wrong for saying just overall Casey King?

He was pretty loved.

Yeah. And he had like a, he had a look.

He was, he had a style to him.

Would David Reagan be one that people are pretty indifferent on?

Like I never heard of a David Reagan hater.

Same like David's in general.

David Ruderman also kind of fits in that.

That's a perfect one.

Actually, yeah, I'm going to write him down for sure.

I don't know about Reagan just yet.

I mean, he won a 500, but Trevor Bain.

I think winning that 500 was enough of like a memorable moment that

will allow, and he's still on TV today, I think, like that makes him more.

Yeah.

Because that's what I'm trying to say.

I'm like, like, part of me is like,

Some people said one public month toy.

Yeah.

It's like, yeah, too many people like, like made fun of him.

I mean, I like McDowell, but McDowell is probably somebody that everyone looks at

indifferent.

I guess he's been around long enough.

People are like,

How come like that?

You either know him for being a road course racer, 1 to 500,

or you know, I'm flipping to Texas.

I would have said McDowell up until a few years ago.

And like really until the one day tona, because anyone,

Sam Hornish, Jr.

There's a good one.

That's a good one.

Yeah.

On the NASCAR side, definitely indifferent.

I'm having a hard time thinking of good ones because part of me is like William Byron.

I don't feel a lot more about William Byron,

but he's in a great car.

Someone talked about here recently, David Strimmey.

What's the guy's name?

David that are so David star.

I'll raise you one more David Gilland.

Oh, I said Todd earlier.

Oh no.

These are good.

All right.

I don't want to keep it.

I feel like now we're just.

The Mount Rushmore is just David.

We don't care.

David Pearson.

You stay away.

Yeah.

Not David Pearson.

No, we'll take him.

No, he'll be on, but that's actually good one.

It's a mountain, David.

From Bailey Rikerit again says,

darn you, Jared for ending Eric Slump.

Come on, rooting against me now.

Come on now.

I hope again, you guys know I do all of these.

Like I pick all the dates and unless I have to change them,

I pick them all before the season.

Jared Plain's ahead.

I make sure.

Yeah.

APC says, Danny, where do you think DGG ends up?

I hope.

Is that Ohio State OSU?

Yeah.

But David Gabriel, Georgia's is a five star running back who goes to Baylor School and

Chattanooga.

He's originally from Canada.

He canceled his visit this weekend to Georgia because basically Georgia's not going to be able to,

not going to have a need for him like the other two schools do.

Ohio State, obviously it's a great program.

He's going to instantly contend if he goes there.

But I think he'll be, he could just be like another cog in the wheel if he goes there,

if I'm being honest, versus I think he could stand out more at Tennessee.

Basically it's going to come down to, it's out of Ohio State or Tennessee.

Tennessee from what I, I don't know if it's how true it is, what I've heard, they're willing to offer him

$2 million a year in NIL for running back is insane numbers for college.

But what I've seen at the kids high school stuff, man, he's probably worth it because he's about,

he's about the best.

He reminds me so much of a young Derek Henry.

So I want to see him in Knoxville.

I don't know in the end what he's going to choose.

So I'm going to just pull from my balls and say he goes to Tennessee.

You should go to Georgia.

There'll be room.

Someone will get arrested.

No shortage of things.

He did go on a visit to Ole Miss this weekend.

So that might be his third option.

But in reality, I think most people have been saying it's at our, it's at our Tennessee or Ohio State.

He's got, he's got some teammates from, from as a Baylor school that went to Tennessee.

So that might, that might have a lot to do with it as well.

Oh, and another thing he wears number zero in high school and Tennessee and Ole Miss

let him wear the number zero in his visit, in his visit pictures and uniform.

Ohio State wouldn't, they would only let him wear number one.

They wouldn't let him wear the number zero he wears because the block O is earned, not given.

Like it's just a visit.

Don't be so serious about it.

I think it's weird that we're giving college kids full on jerseys and taking photos when

they haven't committed to or played a snap.

Well, that's, that's what they always do.

Cause you gotta say, how am I going to look in the uniform?

It's so cringe.

I can't, that's, that's, this is a part of college sports that I do think is just a little cringe.

I'm all for paying the players.

Imagine if you're the different NASCAR drivers.

Come in, Jesse Love.

We want to see what you're going to look like in this woodbritters racing uniform.

It's just weird.

I don't know.

But anyway, from Jensen here says, sorry, everyone for earlier.

I got a text from my wife.

You've confused the Holy Trinity of NASCAR podcasting with your super chats.

Apologize to them in the chat.

She says, aloha and mahalov are putting up with them.

Thank you to Jensen's wife, but that is not necessary.

We do appreciate the support.

It wasn't too confusing.

We have, sometimes we have a hard time reading.

I said that earlier and, and don't always have the best answers.

American education system.

Final few here.

We're getting into the homestretch.

Speedy racing says, thanks for the tips at Michigan.

It was a blast.

Larsen finished well in the racing was good.

The bell and Elliot crash was scary boo denny.

Good merch.

Good stuff.

Glad you enjoyed your time.

Speedy racing.

Fred dog says, do you guys watch the cross country hauler live stream?

Very relaxing and better racing than Bokeh.

Barney number one in my power rankings.

I don't know.

Maybe Blaney.

Barney who?

I put on that stream for a little bit.

It's just calming.

It is.

I check in from time to time to see what state they're in.

Last time I checked, it was like, oh, they're at a rest stop.

So it was just a black screen.

I was like, ah, well, it's definitely one of those things.

And if they're doing it overnight, you could like,

I could really go to sleep with this.

Yeah.

Well, and the cool thing is like, especially during the day,

if you just check in every couple of hours,

as they're traveling across the country,

like you can just see the color of the landscape change

based on where in the country they're at.

And it's really cool.

Yeah.

Oh, Barney is the hauler driver.

Oh, shout out Barney.

I didn't see the name.

Hell yeah.

There's a content suggested for the folks in NASCAR.

Take all the recordings of those and put them on an endless 24 hour loop.

Profits.

Stonks.

Spiti racing with another one here says,

love to the Wood Brothers will tell us a lot about the team.

If he's terrible at the car, he has the talent.

I do.

I do NASCAR stop motion.

Check it out.

Hope 88 wins this weekend.

He needs some good luck.

Thank you.

Yeah.

We'll check out speedy racing.

Check out his stop motion stuff.

Love that that community is still going strong.

And I think it's never going to end because diecast never end.

Let's hope.

I would say again about love is, you know,

I think they're going to struggle out the gates because love,

I do think he has the talent, but he doesn't have the experience.

So I think judging him off of year one is going to be,

I wouldn't advise it from Wayne Montgomery says,

happy Father's Day to all the dads this weekend.

Absolutely.

We all echo that from Matt says, throwback to May 2018,

where Eric physically recorded his screen in a favorite driver quiz and got Ty Dillon.

I don't know, we're physically recording my screen,

but I do remember getting Ty Dillon in some quiz.

Mount Rushmore driver right there for the former super chat.

I met Ty Dillon years later.

He was very friendly, found out for some reason.

He's a huge University of Texas fan.

I obviously went to University of Texas.

So I'm like, all right, sweet deal.

Hook him.

Ty Dillon.

Cool.

He's good in my book from blue Jimmy fans says, SpongeBob Squidward.

NASCAR is taking over the Navy.

I'm going to be so annoying to Amelia this week.

And I'm going to say not the, I'm going to say that so many times in my

our generation lives in a rest of development.

Justin Drake says, Hey guys, sorry, I've been MIA for the past month or so,

drove back to New York on my way up.

I stopped at Dover the week of the all-star race.

Still can't believe we lost Kyle Bush.

Absolutely.

Well, hope you're doing okay, Justin.

And it's good to see you again.

And we have an answer to our, to that flag quiz earlier from Jackson says,

the answer is 15 procedural included, but it is eight without.

So we were half right at least.

We pat ourselves on one shoulder for that.

Thanks for the quiz, Jackson.

Then from Hunter Nixon fishing indifferent drivers, Mike Bliss.

You know, I remember that year when Mike Bliss was, you know, I think he won a

range shortened Charlotte race in the one.

And then he ended up getting let go by that team.

Got picked up in the 11 pizza ranch Toyota and like never won, but he was like top five,

like every week and doing really good.

Yeah.

And like nobody remembers it because he's in a different track.

Put them on the Mount Rushmore with all the Davids.

All right.

Dragon is prime says, Wampabos car at least was a movie star.

Oh yeah.

And Transformers.

Transformer.

That's right.

Along with Dale J.

Here and Jimmy Johnson.

And finally, Jonah's stuff.

What do you think of universal allowing a shirt of Denny's car from Pocono to be made,

but not a die cast?

I don't, I don't know how licensing works, but I'm sure universal very protective of

their little yellow gremlins.

So I don't, I'm sure they make a lot of like, you know, toy, you know, minion car.

So it takes a lot of, you know, there's a lot of exclusive agreements there.

This one's for Jake from snappy.

Denny.

See, I read that like Ozzie yelling Sharon.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too.

We got a couple more coming in here.

Justin Drake says, Hey, Danny, you like the new profile picture?

It's a Bowman custom.

I do.

Looks like you got them in good ear colors.

I like that.

I like the sunset.

Nice picture there.

And finally from speedy racing says, Go Larson.

This is my favorite podcast.

What do you guys want to see in NASCAR 26?

Keep up the great work.

We appreciate the support speedy racing.

I'm gonna be honest.

I haven't played a lot of NASCAR 25.

I'm kind of out of the gaming scene.

I guess, I guess I just want to see progress.

I guess that's all you can ask for because you don't, you don't want to feel like it's

just a rinse and repeat of what you had last year.

Yeah.

I, my, my thing with this, like, it wasn't a bad game.

I thought it was better to know how to the other one.

I thought it was the best one since inside line.

They didn't say much.

Consider the last one, you know, 21 was just non playable.

Like the bar was low.

Yeah.

I just, for me, I can only do about 40, 40, like 40, 45 minutes before I just got kind of

bored of it.

And it's not that it was bad.

It just, something just didn't draw it to me.

It's like a lot of stuff felt predictable and, and about the AI and.

Has loved me for age at this point.

Like, like we, we grew up with such a peak generation of NASCAR gaming options that

it's, it's so hard to top what we had, I think.

I went back to Thunder 04 and, and kind of that era too.

I just went back, I have my original Xbox and so I just played that.

Yeah.

I'm just at the point where, yeah, I mean, I, I'm trying to think like, what could they

put in this game to make it a must buy, must play for me?

And I don't have an answer because I'm just, I don't know.

I guess I'm kind of, I love NASCAR.

I need league signs.

That's a big one.

Maybe that, maybe that, I don't like, I love NASCAR.

My life is consumed by it already at this point that I guess, I don't know.

I'm just not that, I don't play a lot of video games these days.

So I guess I'm just not the target audience right now.

Maybe I'll get back into the gaming scene and we'll, uh, want to fire it up sometime

soon, but it's just, I don't know.

I don't, I can't answer this right now.

I was just thinking the last time that like the streaming side for the, for gaming with

a new game was actually worth doing was kind of at the heat for side of it.

Cause heat five ever knew as a copy and paste and it was COVID and all that stuff.

And I just look at how we all are now.

And it just, maybe it's just, we grew out of it.

I don't know.

I just need more time.

I wish if I had more free time, like right now I, I spent so much time doing NASCAR things

literally seven days a week that it's like, when I have free time, I guess I'm not dying

to play a NASCAR video game, but that's just me.

Like where I must, I understand I'm not 90% of fans watching the show.

We got a final few here.

We'll get through this cause I know we're going long from Bailey says,

I'd love to see Barry in the big machine 48.

If he has a little bit of sponsorship, I think they'd love that probably run better than it's

running right now.

Speedy racing says, I will be the final super chat.

It will happen.

We appreciate the support speedy, but yeah, as Eric Andrade says, no, but we appreciate the

support either way.

Second best, second is the best.

That's what they often say.

Not in racing, the second sucks.

So sorry.

Thank you all for watching.

Now, hey, we appreciate the support speedy racing.

Please remember actually make yourself broke for our show.

It's not worth it.

Please do not, please do not, but we do appreciate everyone tuning in tonight.

We do appreciate the super chats.

We appreciate you guys tuning in every week watching live listening after the fact we

do love spending our Wednesday nights with each other and with all of you.

They're speedy racing with one more drops of a little dollar at the end.

It's very kind of you speedy racing.

Congratulations.

All right, let's end the stream now.

So he has the title.

Thanks for watching.

We'll see you next week.

Have a great weekend.

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