{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Detroit’s Mobility Success Isn’t Happening in a Vacuum with John McElroy, President of Blue Sky Productions and Host of Autoline","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/detroit-s-mobility-success-isn-t-happening-in-a-vacuum-with-john-mcelroy-president-of-blue-sky-productions-and-host-of-autoline","audioUrl":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/365924/2792686/the-mobility-table/2026_05_04_13_54_51_16b6f5dd-f86a-4982-8306-833fa0dd664f.mp3","description":"John McElroy sat down with Jeannine and Bernard at The Mobility Table to discuss the ways the Detroit region mobility ecosystem can overcome global competition. 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