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DeVante Mack: Podcasting, Culture & Why We Might Get Canceled | Hard Parking EP 327

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Car

Bugatti Divo

The Bugatti Divo is an extremely expensive, very high-performance supercar. It’s made for fast driving and advanced performance. The podcast brings it up as part of a specific story involving that car.

Brand

RWB

RWB is a Porsche customization brand. People pay them to transform a Porsche into a very recognizable widebody style with a more aggressive look.

Term

widebody

Widebody means the car’s fenders are widened. That lets the car run bigger tires and gives it a wider, more aggressive look.

Place

Hoonigan Burn Pit

The Hoonigan Burn Pit is a car-culture filming/event spot tied to Hoonigan. In this story, it’s where they were shooting a reel with T-Pain.

Car

Honda NSX

The Honda NSX is a famous Honda sports car. It’s known for being a real driver’s car, not just something that looks fast. Here, they’re recalling seeing a white one and realizing it belonged to someone they know.

Car

Nissan G35

The Nissan G35 is a Nissan sports car from the 2000s. In this part, they’re talking about a G35 coupe that has a manual transmission, meaning you shift gears yourself.

Term

manual

A manual car means you shift gears yourself. Instead of the car deciding the gear for you, you use the clutch and the shifter to control it.

Term

anti theft device

An anti-theft device is something in a car meant to stop or discourage theft. The idea here is that a manual car can be harder for a thief to drive off immediately.

Term

five speed

A “five-speed” means the car has five forward gears. You choose the gear yourself, and the number of gears changes how the engine sounds and pulls at different speeds.

Car

NSX

The NSX is a famous sports car model. The speaker is saying they didn’t want their daughter learning to drive a stick because they didn’t want her driving their NSX.

Car

Infiniti G35

The Infiniti G35 is a sporty Infiniti model people often modify. The speaker is saying they regret buying one and is also talking about how the G35 gets associated with certain car-scene behavior.

Car

Nissan Altima

The Nissan Altima is a popular everyday sedan. The speaker mentions it as an example of an Altima that had a classic plate, tying into their point about car culture.

Car

Ford Fusion

The Ford Fusion is a regular family sedan. In this segment, the speaker says their Fusion had a transmission problem (it started slipping), so they needed a different car quickly.

Term

transmission ... slipping

“Slipping” means the car’s gears aren’t grabbing correctly, so the engine revs but the car doesn’t accelerate as it should. That’s why the speaker says they needed a replacement car.

Place

Tucson

Tucson is a city in Arizona. The speaker says they drove there to buy a car and that’s where things went wrong.

Term

misfires

A misfire is when the engine doesn’t burn fuel correctly in one or more cylinders. It can make the car run rough and may be a sign something inside the engine or fuel system isn’t right.

Term

white smoke

White smoke usually means something is wrong with what the engine is burning. It can be a sign of coolant getting into the wrong place, or another problem that needs diagnosis.

Car

Nissan Z32

The Nissan 300 ZX is a sports car. The podcast talks about someone’s experience with a right-hand-drive Z and the work done on it. It’s mentioned because it was a car they owned and improved.

Term

fuel injectors

Fuel injectors are what deliver fuel into the engine. If the wrong injectors are installed (or they’re not set up correctly), the engine can get the wrong amount of fuel and start running badly.

Term

DE

“DE” is shorthand for a specific Nissan 300ZX engine variant (the naturally aspirated “DE” configuration). In this segment, the host says rev-up injectors were installed into the DE, which is a mismatch unless the car is tuned for that setup.

Term

tune the car

Tuning is adjusting the car’s computer settings so the engine runs correctly with the parts you installed. If you change parts like injectors but don’t tune the computer, the engine can get the wrong fuel/air behavior.

Term

timing

“Timing” is about making sure the engine’s moving parts work in the right order at the right moments. If it’s off, the engine can run poorly or even get damaged.

Term

Tome Exhaust

A “Tome Exhaust” is an aftermarket exhaust setup from a performance brand (Tomei). Changing an exhaust can change the sound and how the car responds when you accelerate.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

The Camaro is a sporty car made by Chevrolet. It’s designed to feel fast and exciting to drive. The podcast mentions it as part of a real-world driving story.

Car

350

“350” is shorthand for the Infiniti 350Z, a sporty car that’s very common in the car-modification world. The speaker is basically saying they don’t like the 350Z’s look as much as the G35’s.

Term

Vader Vader kit

A “kit” is a set of aftermarket parts that change how a car looks. The speaker is talking about a body kit that makes the car look more like a different, more exotic-style car.

Term

drift car

A drift car is built or modified for drifting—driving through turns while the car slides sideways on purpose. The speaker is saying they might set their car up for that style of driving.

Concept

restored salvage

A “restored salvage” car used to be written off by an insurer, then it was fixed up and allowed back to drive. It can be a riskier buy because the damage history can still matter even after repairs.

Car

Ford Falcon

The Ford Falcon is an older Ford model that people still talk about today. In the episode, it’s mentioned as an inspiration for a similar look or setup. The speaker is trying to recreate a vibe connected to that car.

Car

RX7FD

That’s a shorthand for a Mazda RX-7 from the FD generation. It’s a special RX-7 because it uses a rotary engine, and a lot of fans really love it.

Term

Spirit R

“Spirit R” is a particular version of the RX-7 FD. It’s the more special, performance-oriented trim, which is why some people who aren’t deep into RX-7s might not have heard of it.

Term

left hand drive

“Left hand drive” just means the steering wheel is on the left side of the car. The speaker is saying there’s only one such example in existence, which makes it especially rare.

Term

cutting up

Here, “cutting up” means taking a car apart and permanently modifying the body to fit aftermarket parts. The speaker is basically saying it’s easier to justify doing that to a wrecked car than to a clean, undamaged one.

Car

Toyota Gr86

The GR 86 is a small, sporty Toyota that’s meant to be fun to drive. It’s built to handle well and feel responsive. The episode brings it up because someone wants to get one after having an earlier version.

Car

Scion Frs

The FR-S is a small sporty car made for people who want something fun to drive without spending huge money. It’s rear-wheel drive, which helps it feel more engaging. The podcast mentions it because someone wants to get another one (or the newer GR86 version).

Car

Ford F150

The F-150 is a large pickup truck made by Ford. People buy it for hauling, towing, and everyday driving. The podcast mentions a rugged “Hard Edition” version as a truck the host wants to get.

LIVE

We might get canceled for this one.

This is Hart Barker, brought to you by Wright Haunted and Wright Toyota out of Scottsdale,

Arizona.

I am your host, Jay Fitting, recording for my home studio here in Gilbert, Arizona.

Coming up on today's show, Davante Mack of the Mackism Effect joins us in studio.

He is also the man behind the Divergent Being Network, drinks and kicks, as well as the

old head and the young in podcast.

But most importantly, he is my friend.

And we might just get canceled today.

Mr. Davante Mack.

Sitting here with Davante Mack of Mackism Effect and a bunch of other things.

We've been trying to get this together for a long time.

I had to lure you over here with some white wine.

I wouldn't say that did it.

But, you know, that was a good, like, enticing thing.

So but regardless, though, hey, man, I'm always having to come on.

So you're not the first wino in studio.

Josh Benjamin is a big wino.

He's a red wino.

Oh, OK. Yeah. Nice. Nice.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's funny to how it came about to be such a lover of wine.

Like, Pellis. All right.

So I think it was and this is going to sound crazy.

This is why I never claim a wine connoisseur.

Stellarosa is my all time favorite wine.

And that's because it's cheap, but it tastes great.

I could always drink it.

A friend, she poured me a glass of the Stellarosa black.

I'd never had it.

I think I killed that whole bottle that night.

So is it where is it on the scale of dried a sweet?

I'd say it's a little bit on the sweeter side,

but it's like that just right to where it's like me.

I have this thing where I say I don't want to taste the alcohol.

I know that's dangerous. I know.

But me, I just like to continuously just drink it.

Now, I know when to cut myself off.

I've made myself pretty aware of that.

And I would like to say I'm a very aware drunk,

but, you know, I don't want to taste the alcohol.

I like it to taste good and sweet.

What? How do you know?

How do you know when it's time?

Because I actually here's another funny story for you.

I'm going to have a lot of funny stories.

That's what we're here for.

So work event, we are at Talking Stick Resort.

I literally. What's work?

Where's work? Or is this old old work?

Oh, no, current work, current work.

So probably two glasses of wine, two vodka red bulls.

Yeah, that that did it.

Don't don't ever mix those.

I literally tell my co-worker,

hey, until I stop slurring my words, don't let me leave.

He looks at me and he's like, wait, you can tell him.

Like, yeah, I didn't literally tell.

Yeah, so that's what made me a very self aware drunk.

Yeah, I think there were studies,

but like maybe 10 years ago or so about the dangers

of mixing vodka red bull and energy drink and vodka.

And people still do it.

You know, we we did it for years.

You know, I've kind of moved away from it,

but it's not because of the warnings.

I mean, shit, I'm drinking tequila.

You're drinking wine.

I mean, it's not like that's going to make it worse for me.

But I think there was a girl recently

who passed up a bunch of these energy drinks.

Yep. Yeah.

You know, it's funny to me and my little brother

were actually talking about that

because he constantly gets on me

about drinking so many energy drinks.

He's like, think about that girl that just passed sadly.

And I'm like, oh, yeah, she drank five.

Right. Why would you drink five in one day?

That's terrible.

I cut myself off at two.

Like I'm drinking water most of the day.

I mean, it's Arizona.

You have to drink water.

But yeah, we in my day, we took these little pills.

I want to say they were called many things.

Hmm. And they were about caffeine, essentially caffeine pills.

And that's what you would take to keep going.

And people were I'm pretty sure

people were Odean or dying on too many of those.

And they taste like shit, too.

Like you you can't you can't show them.

You put them in their powdered so they're not.

I mean, they're not encoded, you know, so it's just like,

you basically have to pop them with water or whatever

and just swallow immediately.

But that's, you know, that's kind of obviously dangerous.

And you could probably still find them at remote truck stops.

But tell us, you know, tell us about you.

My people, with the exception of Jorge,

doesn't really know much about you.

You do have macosome effect.

It comes out once a month.

So we try to do it more.

It's just all dependent on.

Well, OK, I guess I'll start.

You have a few other things.

Yeah, so I guess I'll start from the beginning.

Start from the beginning.

I actually own a startup multimedia network named Divergent

being media.

And, you know, the whole premise of its starting

was kind of out of pettiness.

I will say, I'm very petty.

I'm not going to lie to you.

I contain it very well.

So one auto movement started out of pettiness.

Oh, really?

We'll have to get to that.

But so it started off by seeing complex their sneaker

of the year panel and watching it, I absolutely hated it so much

because I sat there and asked myself, how can these people

that are for one famous enough to anybody is willing to give

them whatever for free be they have infinite amounts of money

to get whatever sneaker they want.

How are they going to tell me what's cool and what's not?

That makes zero sense to me.

So decided to do my own.

And honestly, we've been doing it since 2020.

And, you know, each time it's always been better.

And especially now, I'd say, till this day, I think I have one

of the better ones on the Internet that's, you know,

self-funded, not backed by a corporation.

But, you know, so that eventually turned into my current show,

Drinks and Kicks, which we got a lot more stuff planned for that

that we were actually just talking about this past week.

So I'm looking forward to bringing that out.

But what started the Mackism Effect was I originally had a podcast

called The Old Head and the Young in with a buddy of mine.

And, you know, still hoping that we bring that back.

But he went on hiatus.

I decided to make the Mackism Effect.

And, you know, it's been great because it allows me to kind of get

better at conversing with people.

It's actually helped me a lot more because I used to not talk at all.

Like some guests cannot believe it when I tell them I used to not talk very much.

And it's really allowed me to, you know, meet people, you know,

like yourself as well, you know, and honestly, I'll say I'm very grateful

for starting it because if I did not, I might not have a lot of these

friendships, relationships that I've built.

So I'm always going to be grateful that I did start it.

But, oh, yeah.

So, I mean, just trying to continuously build it, you know, trying to, you know,

get on you and Jorge's level stop.

You know, I had to sneak that in there.

He's going to love it.

Of course he is.

He's yelling at his car radio right now.

Oh, man, you know, it's super good to have him on, too.

But, you know, I can tell everybody was not too thrilled.

We mainly just talked about wrestling the whole time, but I told him on his pod.

We can get away with that on mine because, A, mine's not heavily car related.

And B, I don't care.

You're going to listen to what I got to say.

Hey, you know what?

There's there's there's another train that's always coming.

There's another episode and, you know, we're talking about Jorge Aquino of

tormenting Tarmac.

Shout out to you, buddy.

Uh, but also, too, what a lot of people don't know is that within the

machism effect, there's actually two shows, uh, the trend I try to do it weekly.

If I just had a time, obviously, I think that's the one thing that we're all

trying to find more of time.

Uh, that one is more so just kind of giving my thoughts about, you know,

whatever interest I have that's going on.

You know, I tend to talk about a lot of F one on there, you know, at a base level.

Yeah.

Because I don't got time for all the technical stuff.

I'm not going to lie to you.

That's just too much for me to try and gather up and tell people.

So I always recommend people go check out elsewhere.

They want to know about all that.

But, you know, really it's just even with the random thoughts series that I do

on my Instagram, you know, the trend really is for that.

You know, just to, you know, I see something that I kind of have some

opinions on that's where I'll give it.

You know, who knows?

I'm trying to get paid for my opinion, but it hasn't happened yet.

Well, you keep working at it.

And then, uh, you know, you'll get there if you want to get there.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Um, but I think you also offer something a little different.

You get people from at least the ones that I've clicked in, uh, the local car

community, and you give them an opportunity to not only tell who they are,

but kind of pick their brains.

And you guys do this like really fun Q and a thing that's kind of back and forth.

Yeah.

So, uh, that actually got started by a former colleague of mine.

Uh, she had told me, you know, I feel your audience doesn't know enough

about you, so you should start doing, you know, Mackism episodes, but I actually

kind of transition that a little bit.

So, so she's not a colleague anymore.

Did you guess five are falling out?

As far as I know, yes, but I don't know.

Okay.

All right.

Go ahead.

Sorry.

No, no, no, you're good.

I got to double click into those data points.

I mean, it's kind of like a, I don't know where we stand.

So I'm, I'm just leave it there.

Uh, but, you know, so with the Mackism episodes, I actually only give those out to

either a very close friends that have known me for a long time because it gives

them an opportunity to ask questions that they've either always wanted to ask, but

just never really had the courage or it's just, if it pops in your head, ask me.

And I kind of don't really give myself too much leeway.

If they ask me something, I have to answer it.

So I try to like not give myself too much leeway there, but even with the ending

Q and A on the regular episodes, you know, that's why I try to give everybody, you

know, five to 10 questions that you want to ask me because I think it's fun for

them to kind of, we swap places in a sense, and they turn into the hosts, you

know, for a little bit of time because, you know, it kind of gives them a chance

to, you know, see, like, could I host a podcast?

So I always thought it was cool to do something like that.

So I'll always continue to do it.

How generous of you.

Hey, I'm going to have you on my podcast.

I'm going to put the camera on you.

I'm going to record you.

Now you can ask me what you want to ask me.

Exactly.

I wonder if people have not asked because they're kind of scared of that.

Because people are, you think you've learned, right?

People are different once the cameras are rolling.

So April Halleck.

Yep.

Yeah.

So she was actually one of the more fun ones because we actually had to do two future

guests that she might be coming right up.

Oh, no, it's nice.

So I've had her on technically twice the first episode we scrapped.

It is uploaded and I keep asking her, can I just put it out?

Because it was actually kind of funny, but what happened with it?

So technical issues.

No, it's just we both kind of didn't like a lot of parts in it.

So we kind of just wanted to redo it.

And I will say she was very nervous at first.

But yeah, oh, yeah, I should know, which is so funny because I remember

when me and her first met and like it was the most awkward meeting of all time.

Like all both is because we weren't sure like how to like approach each other at first.

Hey, hey.

Yeah.

And so yeah, yeah.

So we know each other through Instagram.

We know we both know so and so.

Cool car.

All right, bye.

Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, but yeah, that was a super fun episode.

She didn't think she asked a lot of good questions.

I felt like they were great in terms of I always tell people like, you know,

ask me those spicy questions, you know, like I want to challenge myself to, you know,

if you give me a question that I've never actually thought about,

that's when I start having the most fun because like it forces me to actually think.

But she did a great job, Mariela as well, which her is are always funny.

I'd say that first one was probably one of the funnest episodes I've ever done period.

So she's been on more than once.

Oh, yes, she's been on twice.

So one by herself, one with her friend, Cheyenne from Park School.

I saw that one.

Yes, that was fun too.

I will say it is funny when she's on because I get so many DMs,

you know, I apologize in advance, Mari, but I got to tell this story.

Her first time when she was on, that is still probably one of my most viral reels

that I've ever put out for the mechanism effect.

Like when I tell you the amount of DMs that I got, like,

what, you know her?

I'm like, yeah, I've known her since for like a decade now or.

So what was it?

What was the viral?

Did she say something crazy or people just like?

We both.

So.

Oh, man.

Okay.

So I made a joke about, you know, if all else fails, I might just have to go on ahead and

join the training and get on the only fans.

And she says, you know, I got homegirls that do that.

So I could hook you up.

And that's when I hit the hold on like I was just kidding.

Like, but, you know, it was that, I forget what else I said, but that was a funny episode

overall.

Now, it did get quite annoying with DMs because the amount of times that I got asked,

where are we dating?

And I'm like, dude, we're just friends.

Chill out.

Like just because you see a girl on the pod that does not mean we're dating.

Like, and I've also stressed to people, you know, I understand that podcasting kind of

has a sort of a negative limelight for women.

How so?

Innocence.

I feel like.

So fresh and fit podcasts.

I'll use them as an example.

I can't.

I'm not familiar with them.

You're lucky.

I wish I wasn't.

Are they local or they just, they always have viral clips.

Yes.

So then explain it.

And I may actually have seen these clips.

You ever, you know, Myron Gaines.

I know who that is.

Okay.

He's the host of it.

Okay.

So I can't stand that podcast because it's that red pill, blue pill type podcast.

He's pretty hardcore and annoying.

But yeah.

Well, hardcore as far as doesn't seem to really give a fuck.

No, 100%.

But also too, I feel like that's what kind of makes people not take him serious at times.

Could be.

Yeah.

But that's just my opinion.

So that's his podcast?

Yes.

Okay.

To my understanding.

I've probably, because I've seen him do like his turning point stuff.

Yeah.

And I'm like, dude, you're a dick, you know, but, but I may have seen him do some of the

pod stuff too.

So.

But I know I haven't really watched more than clips.

Like I see the clips and I'm like, dude, do you just invite women

on here just to bully them?

Because if so, that's weirdo activity.

And I don't even get why you have such a bit.

I know why he has a following because it's a bunch of weird dudes that follow him.

But, you know, I'll digress there.

But, you know, I got to make sure I'm not following him.

No.

So, I mean, I look at podcasts like that and I told myself, I want to make sure that

any woman that comes on the pod feels as comfortable as possible because,

you know, I under, I started understanding how they feel towards dudes.

And it took a long time for me to kind of see their perspective a lot better in a sense.

But that's why I say I feel podcasting kind of gives a negative limelight for them.

Just cause it's like, you see stuff like that.

And essentially we see these women getting bullied on podcast.

I see.

Yeah, like I understand.

So that's why I always stress to any woman that's coming on the pod like, hey,

is there anything I can do to make sure you are as comfortable as possible?

Like, I don't care if you got to bring somebody, bring a girlfriend, a boyfriend,

your mom, your dad, your grandpa, I don't care who you got to bring.

I just want you to feel comfortable.

Let me know if there's things you don't want to talk about.

Let me know if I say something that is kind of triggering.

You just need to tell me.

And so far, I've never had a single issue.

So I'd say I'm doing pretty well.

Yeah, I'm kind of a, in a sense, I usually ask people like,

is there anything you don't want to talk about?

Yes, because it's all about the viral clip.

And I think like the, for the Myron Gaines of the world, it's, it's the effect, no pun intended,

where you want that viral clip, you want to get somebody in front of you,

either in his case, you want to make them look dumb as hell.

Yes.

You know, or say something so crazy.

You know, it's going to skyrocket you.

It's about the hot take, in a sense, in a, in a certain.

Yes.

You know, it's, it's a viral clip.

And you know, it's funny with that too, because I was actually prepared to do an episode with my

little brother, just, it was going to be a Mack, a Mackism episode, and I told him,

we're just going to do nothing but hot takes.

And I think one of them I actually had to use for that last episode I did with my nephew.

And, you know, it was funny when me and my little brother were talking about it,

because I told him like, so we're 10 hot takes each, we're just going to discuss them.

It only took me an hour to get 10 hot takes.

This dude was stuck on three for like the whole day.

And he's like, dude, like, do you really just hate the world that much?

I'm like, look, dude, it's hard, man.

No, like, I get it.

But it's like, I, I told him, like, my problem is I don't know how to shut off my brain all the time.

Like, literally, like, how much do you filter out?

Because I get accused of just saying what's on my mind.

And I don't.

I rarely say what's on my mind.

And what comes out is usually heavily filtered.

Yeah, I'd probably say the risk and still say it, but I thought about it.

That's actually a great question.

I'd probably say it's a good 25% that gets filtered out.

And even then, I wouldn't even say that it's bad.

It's just like, I probably shouldn't say it this way.

So let me just say it a nicer way.

I'd probably say that's how I do it.

But I mean, at the same time, it's like, I'm a firm believer in not everything needs to be said out loud.

And I'm also a firm believer in some people just need to learn how to shut up if we're just being honest.

So kind of take that how you will audience.

Because believe me, there's a lot of stuff I could say.

And it would probably piss off a lot of people.

Now, in reality, it's like, I always ask myself like, okay, whoever I'm talking to,

I know how they feel about certain topics.

Should I really give my opinion here?

Now, if they ask about it, they ask, okay, I'll give it to you.

Now, let me ask you this.

How much flak do you catch for just say what's on your mind?

I usually don't just say what's on my mind.

Okay.

Well, I'm asking when you do.

Even in my hot takes, I've filtered them.

Okay.

It's in some way, shape or form.

Okay.

Just because, you know, or I'll say something and I catch myself.

I'm like, okay, let me go ahead and explain that line just because you know how the world is.

You know, you've had these many conversations before.

It's like, okay, on a recent episode, I was talking about

kindergarteners and fifth graders and sixth graders graduating.

Oh, I remember that.

You know, it's funny.

Before you even go, I totally agreed.

I felt it was like, why are we celebrating the fifth grader going to sixth grade?

Yeah, I was like, oh, this is, this is what I filter out.

I'm going to say it now.

I was like, congratulations, you're not retarded.

Like, let's go, you know, but, but then I catch myself because once you realize as an adult,

you have friends with special needs kids and stuff that I'm like, oh, I can't use that word

because even though I don't mean it like that.

Yeah.

You know, so I don't want to defend people in that and so that's when I try to pull it back.

And so instead I said, congratulations, you're not slow.

You know, but what I, what I should have said is, thank God little Timmy made it out of kindergarten.

Okay.

So that's an example of filtration for me.

I have some slight pushback, but I think it's because, so I always like to refer to myself

as a middle child because I'm literally the cutoff of millennials being born in 96,

but I obviously had to grow up with Gen Z.

So it's like, it's interesting for me because I understand both sides, but then I always had to

explain to Gen Zers.

It's like, you guys got to understand like this is just how we're used to talking because

like the stuff that they get upset about, I'm like, dude, I was saying that in like fourth grade.

Like, what are you talking about?

Like you're offended by that.

There's way worse stuff that could be said and that's what made you start crying.

All right.

But then it's like, I look at them and I'm like, okay, I kind of get it.

Like it's just, but this is also where I get to my point of every generation

ruin something for the next generation.

They do good for the next generation, but they also ruin something.

I'd say millennials kind of made Gen Zers soft.

Just my hot take.

But again, to each their own, but I get it though.

I mean, I'd say because even we've had this talk, no matter what with us doing what we do,

you're going to piss somebody off.

Like I was just telling somebody the other day in a meeting we were having,

I could literally say, like be talking about dogs on a podcast and say, I don't like corgis.

Somebody's going to be in that comment section.

Like, how dare you?

I have five corgis.

Like, did you know that?

I'm like, dude, I just don't like corgis.

Cool that you have five.

Hey, send me a picture.

I'd love to see them actually.

I just don't like corgis.

Well, that's kind of symptomatic of a lot of the, that's a microcosm of a lot of the

bigger issues we just had period.

Oh, 100%.

But I was thinking in that example, as a comedian, like neither one of us are comedians,

but there's people who think we're funny.

I mean, you know, you can get up there and tell a joke.

And there's going to be somebody who takes it personal because in their personal life,

it hits hard and it's not funny.

You know, and it's like, well, that comedian can't change the show

if it's where they got their success.

And, you know, they're bread and butter because that one person in the crowd who's

highly offended because it affects them on a personal level.

But I'm not a comedian.

You're not a comedian.

I do think I could at least get 30 minutes on Netflix.

I think I could get that.

I just want to throw that out.

You want to do your open mic session right now?

I mean, we'll say that.

Talk about it on the spot.

We'll say that because...

I have a buddy, an NSX buddy.

Both of my buddies are NSX buddies.

I have an NSX buddy.

It goes by the name of David Hahn and he's in California, LA.

And he does open mic.

He does comedy.

And he's been on the show a couple of times and we get along great.

And he's had some takes where I've had people say, that guy's not funny.

Who is he?

And he's funny unless he offends his shit out of you.

And he does some semi-political, semi-whatever.

And he lives in Cali so he can talk about what's going on in Cali.

Yeah.

And so if you're offended of what he's talking about, that's not...

Because he's not any good.

It's because you took it too personal, you know?

No, 100%.

I mean, it's like you want to talk about comedians for a second.

Take the Kevin Hart roast that just happened.

Oh yeah, that's very highly controversial because of a few things that were said.

I haven't had a chance to fully watch it.

I've only seen clips and I know that's a bad way to do it.

I'll probably never watch it.

Yeah, I just don't care.

I'll see it on clips if that.

But the same deal.

I just don't care enough.

But you know, like Shane Gillis, I'm told people I don't think he's funny.

Like he has moments where I'm like, okay, that's a funny joke,

but I still don't think he's funny.

Tony Hinchcliffe, I do not think he's funny at all.

Wasn't he the guy that did the stand up at the RNC or whatever?

I think so, yes.

He said something about Puerto Ricans or something else and people got wildly offended.

It's not even about the offensive part.

It's just more so like I listened to him and I'm like, it's just dry to me.

I don't think Kevin Hart's funny.

Kevin Hart had a moment, but then as I got older, it's like, dude,

like you're kind of like saying the same stuff.

That you say the same stuff.

And hey, I heard Chris Rock say that 10 years ago or Dave Chappelle say that.

I heard Eddie Murphy say that.

Yeah.

So it's like, you want to talk about just being a really good comedian.

It's like Dave Chappelle is like one of the few that I've said,

this dude almost always has something new to say and it's always funny.

Yes, he may reiterate at times, but even then he finds a new way.

He's great at bringing it back.

Yes.

And he's great, especially in this older stage of he's a great storyteller.

Yes.

Which I think is key.

Actually, are you familiar with Ryan Davis?

I don't think so.

Okay.

So I actually just saw him live last weekend and let me tell you,

as soon as he started, he's like, so let's go on ahead and talk about this weirdo,

diddy.

I'm like, oh, here we go.

You know, I was still one of his jokes right now.

He was telling a story about how he, when he was getting started working,

he worked at Walmart, literally says, you know, my whole time working at Walmart,

keep in mind, I was, I was a stalker.

That's all I do.

I never saw a thousand bottles of baby oil.

I had to sit there, look at D, I'm like, I'm kind of impressed, low key, because who's your plug?

I've never seen a thousand bottles.

I'm like, that was, that was funny because I'm like, you know, kind of thing,

but I've never seen even a hundred bottles of baby oil.

So I'm like, that's actually kind of funny.

I've seen a lot of Matt Reif clips.

He seems to be rising up.

He's like that in between for me because I always thought he was funnier on Wildin'

and out. Oh, is that where he's from?

Yeah, see, I believe that's where he got a real big break.

Yeah.

My kids watched that.

Yeah.

Back in the day.

His stand-up, it's like always hit or miss for me because I'm like, like again.

It's more with the crowd.

Yeah, but I can respect what he does because it's like, hey, I'm pretty sure I've gained

an understanding of, okay, you kind of have to work with the crowd in that field.

Like, yeah, if the crowd gives you one thing, all right, you piggyback off that.

But if they're dry, that's going to make your job even harder.

So that's where I do feel for comedians there and give them some props regardless of who you are.

But again, there's just some I don't think are funny.

But hey, to each their own, own.

So how would you, I'm thinking of all these different things you're talking,

going back to the MAC-ism effect, how would you describe that to the viewing and listening

audience of why they should check in?

Okay, so.

And I noticed with your nephew, you weren't playing the background music.

Yes.

So I've been kind of doing that because I have a hard time with podcasts,

like listening to them.

Like, I got to hear a bunch of different noises at times.

Sure, keep your attention.

Yeah, just listening to somebody talk, like, and get boring to me quick.

That's my biggest problem, I get it.

Yeah, so that's why I try to put some background music there.

I kind of had to compensate because the mics were trash, so apologies.

But, you know, if I had to explain to somebody why they should tune in,

I'm kind of treating the MAC-ism effect because I'm pretty sure you've seen,

I don't promote it as much as I really should.

I'm kind of treating it as a, I guess you could say,

a video book of just my conversations with people.

Because I, I mean, I'll say I never wanted to be a podcaster.

I never had any aspiration for it.

I just started doing it out of kind of necessity just to keep one show going.

And, yeah.

You know, now it's turned into, you know, people actually tell me like,

dude, you're actually really good at what you do.

And until this day, I still-

It's reassuring to hear that.

I question it, that's why they tell me that because I'm like,

hell, I don't even think I'm doing that great.

But one gentleman that I've actually had on some projects, his name is Pop Fields.

He's actually a local artist out here.

He's actually done some work for Eric, that one's last era brand.

And he told me, he was introducing me to one of his colleagues and he was saying,

like, you know, we got to get on his show, man.

He's got this like really good way, like when he asks questions,

he draws answers out of you that you never thought you even had.

And I'm like, interesting, like I've never heard that before.

So, yeah, that was pretty reassuring, I will say.

That, I think that comes from honing your interview style.

Like, what do you consume?

Do you consume other podcasts?

Who are your, who are your, this is a very generic question.

And I know people have asked you this before.

And what you can't say is anybody local.

So I don't want to hear about tormenting Tarmac.

All right, all right.

But, you know, who inspired you to, because like you said, you didn't really want to do it,

but who inspired you to have the motivation to get up there and do it?

And whose style do you like?

You know, like, I like that style.

Like, for me, it's easy.

I could say, okay, I started off listening to Jim Romolot.

People have a love hate with him.

But I like this style.

I listened to Adam Corolla for a long time, listened to Dan Lebatard.

It was two gods in a long time, you know.

And now I really only listen like one or two podcasts that aren't local,

that, that aren't those.

And I like, I mean, I still like those people for everything they've done

for my motivation for the show, but I just don't really click into them anymore.

Okay, I got it.

Like what got you to where you're at, as far as moving forward with MAC-ism

and some of the other projects that you do.

Okay.

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So I gotta cheat a little bit,

because there is one local one that I do actually have to give credit for.

No, that's fine, fine.

So he's actually based out of the West Valley,

Greg, the co-founder of the Sneak to Sneaker podcast.

That's right.

Yeah, so he's probably one of the biggest ones,

and it's just because I got put on to him probably 2018, 2019,

and you know, just once I heard how long they had been going with it,

and then kind of seeing just what they'd done from the start to even till this day,

it's like, it's impressive, and I'll always give him his flowers on what he's done,

and I know that he's talking about hanging it up, which I kind of hate, I'm not gonna lie,

but you know, I've kind of told people, which I'll just say here,

if he does decide to hang it up, you know, I'm ready to, you know, carry on that torch.

I mean, he may not pass it to me, but I'm willing to take it if I need to.

Like Steppen is the new host of that existing brand?

No, just to give viewers a show that's, you know, not necessarily similar,

but something that's like, hey, even though this is gone, come watch this, because

if anything, he's a big inspiration for drinks and kicks, and I know drinks and kicks is

essentially once every quarter for that show, but I can say we actually are planning on doing

some weekly, so yeah, that's where I can say I hope I can carry the torch.

So he's one that definitely big inspiration.

Another one.

And if you don't have like the big national ones, that's fine.

You know, I got a few, actually.

Grits and Eggs podcast, who I've actually mentioned as well, Deontay Kyle.

Definitely like what they're doing. I know it may not be for everybody,

but at the same time, not every podcast is for everybody.

So you just got to take that with a grain of soul, but

definitely like what they're doing over there.

And I mean, just how quick he has blown up, definitely inspiring.

And then, man, trying to think if there is another one, but I'd probably say those two

just for now. What is it about those that got you here?

I'd probably say it's just really about just the genuine conversation that they have on their pods.

And I always kind of wanted to make sure that like, hey, it was never about just trying to get the

clips on the mechanism effect or heck, any project for that matter.

Like even the last drinks and kicks that we recorded, you know, I literally told everybody

that was on there, you know, like, I'm not expecting you to say some stuff that's obviously going to

blow up. And, you know, I'm not expecting, you know, you to follow a script, like just talk.

That's all I'm asking you to do. And, you know, everybody does well with that and

really could not ask for much more than that. And I like that they're just having a good time

just talking because most of the guys that are on there, usually they probably only know one

other person if that. So that's all their first initial time meeting. So I feel that helps as

well kind of build that genuine conversation. Because as you're getting to know each other,

you're also having to ask questions for this show to go. So I think that helps out a lot.

And even with the mechanism effect, like, yes, it's people I've met, we've had a little bit of

but also to like what helps me as well when I'm bringing them on is I study you before you come

on. Like I literally just sit there. I look at your feed. I look at what you pose. Sometimes I

actually ask you questions as you never even thought anybody would even ask you or even knew

about you. So it actually does pay off at times. So really, like I said, it's just all about making

sure I do my due diligence and making sure I know who you are, what you're into. So that way I come

prepared. Smart, man. I used to do that. I don't really do it much anymore. You're busy man. So

it's tough. I think the first time I had no LG on which everybody knows is Hector from all the

movies and stuff. I think I watched four or five hours worth of his interviews.

Interesting. And what I found with him is he says the same shit every time.

And so I came up with some questions to ask him that he's never been asked.

Really? And I think people, especially if you ever get the red carpet, people's what I call them,

they get the red carpet questions. It's just how many fast and furious movies have you been in,

you know? And then when Cody is back on the podcast, you know, I'm not going to ask him the

same shit everybody else asked him. I'm going to ask him the next level question, you know?

So like with no LG, it's like, hey, how'd you start? Long story short. But I was like, yeah,

and then you have to look like you care because you've already seen it millions of times.

But he always, he always tells a story about how, and it's a fucked up story,

how his father came home one day and said, I'm out. I'm going to go sail the world with my homie

and left him and his mother, you know? Yeah. I mean, that's a fucked up story.

And then, you know, Noel had issues for a while. Obviously, most people wouldn't

that situation. And then I say, and then I asked him about his kids. I said,

are you afraid of becoming your parents? And no one's ever asking that before.

Oh, wow.

And I know he loved that question. And that we're homies now.

He forced him to think.

Yeah, you know, sent him a text message, he'll text me back.

You know, but it's so I appreciate the fact that you do do that with people,

and I need to do better at that.

Again, it comes from not being able to turn my brain off. Like,

actually, one of my now really good friends, Jay, who were actually bringing on board to

Divergent being the first project I had him on, he told me after we were done, like,

you know, like, I didn't realize how serious you were in this. I'm like, oh, what do you mean,

Jay? What do you mean by that?

Yeah. And he tells me, like, honestly, like, the entire time, like, set up to filming during

filming, he's like, I was kind of watching you the whole time. And it's like, it was kind of crazy

because he tells me, like, dude, you were a machine, like, and he told me, like, dude,

you're honestly like a human think tank. Like, and that's where I get that I can't turn my brain

off because even I've actually, I have you met Aspen, the, I don't think I've met Aspen Smith.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. I may have seen her in the same space, but I've never been like,

and I apologize if she were to ever watch this or listen to it, which I think I would be honored

if she did. But I may have met her at some point before she started doing her posts.

Okay. But I can, I don't remember having met her if I ever did, but I was, so I'm going to say,

no, I haven't met her. If I ever see you and I happen to be with her, I'll make sure to

introduce y'all too. It was funny because actually the last event that we were both at the last

event, me and her were talking and I was telling her, you know, like, it's kind of crazy because

I am now that friend that everybody knows does content creating and they like to come and ask

me for help or questions. And I was telling her, like, I need to just start charging people.

He's like, you could get into consulting. Yeah. But I'm like, I hear you. Yeah. But then I'm like,

I got to show proof that this will work. I'm like, I don't, I'm not a numbers guy. It's just like,

this is my idea. I feel like it would be great. You know how many ideas I've given to people?

Because it was either I just don't have the time to do it or I can't do it because I don't want to

get in trouble. So it's like, I just kind of hand off a lot of ideas because again, it comes from

that not being able to shut my brain off. So I'm constantly just always thinking of something.

And, you know, it's cool to have a lot of creative friends as well, because it's nice to

be able to bounce ideas off of each other. I agree. Yeah. So always forcing it to, you know,

have my circle that I have built up just through this in general. Yeah. But, you know, even then,

too, I should admit to tell you the gentleman that you had from on my block in SWAT. Right behind

me on the wall. Yes. Yes. I was trying to remember his name right now. Stevie Agus. Yes. My mom actually

loved that episode. Oh, that's awesome. Thank you. Of course. Of course. Because she actually

was a big fan of SWAT for obvious reasons. Shamar Moore. Right. Same as my wife. Of course.

Oh, yeah. So when I saw that you were going to have him on, I'm like, oh,

let me send her this link. And yeah, she watched it. She loved it. I'm never going to like,

Steve's so busy and he's a good guy. Oh, yeah. And he's someone I also met through Noelle.

And I'm going to have Caesar on at some point, too. Oh, okay. Yeah. He's actually got a Dell

Soul. Interesting. Yeah. But there's actually stuff I thought about for a while and I cut

out of that episode. I remember we talked about this because I think I personally think he went

a little too nuclear on the industry. Well, I understood. Like some of the things that he was

talking about, I understood. But again, some of that stuff didn't even make it. That's the stuff

I love in there. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it completely. And you know, that's a tough thing,

I'd say too, because there, I will say with doing this, you run into some interesting people. I'm

pretty sure you could say the same thing. You know, there's some I feel have given me the cold

shoulder at times. I feel there's some that it's like, I would love to have as a guest,

but it's like, I just feel like a you kind of just don't rock with me for some odd reason.

Now, I mean, could I say names? Sure. Do I really care? No, because it's just it is what it is.

And I mean, it's like, I said, well, I'll give you one name. I don't like Dustin Williams very

much, but that's just because he was kind of a dick to me at SEMA one year for no reason.

But, you know, TJ Hunt, I actually admitted I was wrong about him. I thought he was going to be a

dick and he was one of the nicest dudes ever. So I'm gonna take that clip and go viral.

Go ahead, go ahead. You know, TJ, you know, great meeting you, man. Actually, it's all crew.

They're super cool dudes. Calvin was very nice to me. But, you know, it's like

getting to meet so many different people, you know, from her super cool dude, by the way,

Aaron Parker met him my first year at SEMA after they got done filming the show on Netflix.

Super cool dude. And then I saw him years later at SEMA. He actually remembered who I was.

Well, that's cool. Yeah. Tavaresh, super cool dude. Actually, he remembered who I was too.

Weston Champlin, cool dude as well. I mean, getting to meet people like that,

very fortunate for one. I've gotten to meet them. But it's just...

Not the receiver. Former... I don't know why I'm blanking on his name, but former San Francisco

now Washington. You know what? I feel I can tell this story now.

Debo. Yeah, go ahead. All right. Tell us a Debo Samuel story.

I get a call from my friend who will not be named just due to he still has a business to run.

So, out of respect for that. Protect the innocent.

He calls me. He's like, you're a Niner fan, right? I'm like, oh, yeah. What's going on? He's like,

I have an opportunity to sell to Debo Samuel. I'm like, all right. He's like, you want to go? I'm

like, of course. Well, totally. I would have jumped at that too. Oh, yeah. And keep in mind,

before then, I have gotten to meet Majae Sanders, who played out here in Arizona, his rookie season.

Super cool, dude. Me and him actually had a pretty cool friendship for a while.

But so we're at Debo Samuel's house in Scottsdale.

Already knew it was going to be a bad time. So we pull up to the house. I park in his driveway.

I don't know if he's home or not. He texts my buddy, move your car. I'm like, oh, okay,

my bad, dude. You know, we didn't know you weren't here. I'll see you drove the SV.

No, I had the Ford Fusion. Oh, maybe he thought FBI was there. No, no.

Uh, so move my car. We're sitting there waiting for him to park. He walks out from the garage.

He asked us, y'all weren't taking pictures of my cars, were you? We're, we both look at each other

like, what? Like, no. And then he at. So if I has to see all his phones, I won't find anything. I'm

like, I mean, buddy. So the first impression started off shitty. Exactly. And I, I'm like,

look, dude, like I'm not a weirdo. Like if you want to see sure, but you're not going to find

anything. Why would I care to take a picture of your car? I've already seen millions of your car.

So he's like, all right. So we walk into the house. He's like, Hey, y'all want to get set up? I

gotta go make a run real quick. I'm like, okay. So we're setting up. My buddy is like, honestly,

Devonte, like, I'm not sure how I feel like you want to leave. I'm like, no, dude, we, we came to

get your money. We're, we're leaving here. You had to hit my denser. Leave here with something.

Leave here with something. So, um, what made it better? His homie, uh,

Cheyenne Smith actually was there too. Super cool dude. He made that experience so much better.

So we're sitting there trying to chop it up with Devo Cheyenne. He's at least, you know,

talking with us. They're picking out whatever clothes they want. And my, my boy asks, Hey,

you know, can I just get a picture, you know, just for business purposes? Like we can take it

just on this blank wall. So not unreasonable at all to be honest with you. Exactly. Seems pretty

standard. Exactly. And he tells him, we can take it on this blank wall, no pictures or anything,

just so nobody can tell this is your house. He's like, all right. So he goes, showers,

we're sitting there, packing up, talking to his boy. He comes out. My boy's like, so that picture

can I still get? He's like, nah, like, glad we waited. Yeah. I'm like, okay, dude. So

depth in both head out. I'm like, just a bad experience. Exactly. But it told me one thing

that whole don't meet your heroes thing. It's only true to a degree. Yeah. Because that was

probably the worst experience I've ever had meeting a celebrity. And it also told me like,

to only just view him on the field. And that's when I realized, you know, we need to get rid of

you because you're trash as a receiver. Like you can't do anything that a receiver is really

supposed to do. So the day we traded him, Swiss Army and the day we traded him, I was so thrilled.

I'm like, good, like, terrible. So yeah, Devo Samuel, if you ever see this,

you can eat a dick. I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm just being honest, dude. Like, drink some more wine.

Let's get going. I like this. Look, I'll just say, man, you know,

Atta boy, drink up. Look, I don't care how much money you make. I don't care how famous you are.

Don't be an asshole. You can't take anything with you. And sometimes your your reputation is all

you have. Exactly. And even with Arizona to like meeting some of these influencers,

a lot of them are a little weird too. And it's like, I look at some of them and I'm like, you know,

free it you only have the following because of these people that want to support you,

you should probably be nicer to them because all it takes is them to unfollow you. You lost

everything at that point. So that's just my take on it to your room. It's a good take.

That's why we're here. And that's what people can expect if they check out, you know, the

mechanism effect drinks and kicks. Yes. We've talked about it. Yes. By name. Yes. Let's double

click into what that is. Okay. So it actually stemmed off a the former show sneaker talk,

which has now been totally wiped off the face of the earth. That was mainly due to I didn't want

to get into a legal battle because somebody already sounds like a smart decision. Yeah. So

drinks and kicks like it kind of blends, you know, just obviously

full disclaimer. It's actually inspired by LeBron's the shop. If you couldn't tell,

like it's pretty obvious and I've actually even said that publicly. Okay. But it kind of blends,

you know, obviously, that's good because that's one of the inspirations. Exactly. Yeah, we talked

about earlier. Exactly. So yeah, there's another one. So it blends two things. A always like

having a good drink, whether it's alcohol, whether it's egg, I'll drink coffee for the sake of the

show. But I told you earlier, I don't care for coffee. But you know, just blends that along with

obviously talking about, you know, just sneaker culture as a whole. I try to always let them

know to they can talk about anything. Just that kind of involves sneaker culture, but

is a little bit outside of the realm too. But you know, just overall that and good conversation.

So that's really what it blends together. But also to like my big thing was, especially if you see

where it started from to now, production is the big thing for it because

you know, shout out to my buddy, Robert Gallo, who's actually a phenomenal videographer.

She started calling him Bobby G. I can't call that. Robert Gallo, what's up Bobby G? Shout

out to Bobby G. He might kill me if I call that. But you know, silver good photographer, videographer

in his own right. But you know, so how we got that studio space, because he was starting to help me

out a lot more. And he told me, look, that last one you did, I can't allow you to do that quality

ever again. As your friend, and I take that word very serious, your friend, I can't allow that

quality. So I'm like, okay, find me a new spot. We stumbled across the spot we're at now, 48 Labs

studio out there in a Peoria, Glendale area. So make sure to take them out. Yeah. I mean,

it wasn't even about it. You're good here. You're good. Yeah. So it's, you have to go east and

the north. Yeah, essentially. Yeah. Like just north of Cardinal Stadium. Okay. Yeah. But I mean,

it wasn't even about like the distance. It was just about the fact as soon as we got in there,

and I saw what he had to offer. I knew, oh yeah, I'm going to be recording everything here,

like straight out the gate. So that production on the sneaker the year that we did last year,

I tell you, still to this day, I have people like, dude, like, how did you do that? And I'm like,

Hey, ancient Chinese secret. But now I tell like, no, I just go here, dude, like, Hey,

it'll get you set up. And you know, really, that shows us all about production. Like I mentioned,

we are actually planning a weekly show that's going to more so lean heavier on the,

you know, we just want to get something out weekly. So it's going to be a more shorter form.

And, you know, I told the guys that I just want to do that just so that way people have something

to listen to. But we can obviously continue doing the main drinks and kicks just once every quarter.

And, you know, really with that too, because I do want to bring back the basketball special just

because I'm a big basketball nerd. And, you know, that's always a fun episode to do. I thought

about doing a football one, but people take that too serious. You're a big football guy, right?

I love football. Who's your team? We're a Bill's family. Right. Right. We're a Bill's family because

I married into a Bill's family. And of course I'm a Texas Longhorns guy. Okay. I'm not too big on

college myself. I love it. Yeah. So I was planning a football special years ago, but then I realized

I had too many Cowboys fans that wanted to come on and I'm like, like, I don't mind too many of

them, but I know they take it a little too serious fan base. Yes. And mind you, I'm from Texas. Yes.

I could say Dallas because it's the big city, but I'm from Garland, which is a suburb. It's like

Gilbert, Phoenix. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. You know, it just kills me because, like,

I wanted to do it, but there was one Cowboys fan and one Eagles fan. I'm like, oh, no, never mind.

Like, I can't do that. I'm like, those two will be foaming at the mouth the second something gets

said. And I'm like, I'm not willing to go through that. I'm sorry. And both fan bases are kind of

like borderline unreasonable. So then, yeah, there's that. Here's the thing though. You know,

I guess we're going to talk football for a sec. I don't even dislike the Cowboys as much as I

should be in a Niner fan. I actually dislike the Steelers even more. Really? Oh, because that's

the one ring that Fitzgerald should have gotten. Oh, yeah. That's the one ring. It's like in no

disrespect to 9 11. But I think for a lot of football people, everybody kind of knows where

they're at when they saw Fitzgerald running in the touchdown and you think the game is over.

Yes. And everybody knows when Santonio Holmes caught that fucking bullshit pass. Thank you.

We lived in Michigan at the time. We weren't even here.

So I get it. I'm glad you're you're willing to see like, look, bro, that was not two feet down.

I don't care. We were all just like, yeah, go, go, go, touchdown. And then,

you know, now, so it's like with them, I cannot stand the Steelers at all. Like that is probably

my most hated team. And he were a team to hit, by the way. Oh, I agree. But at the same time, like

y'all took my joy because I actually met Larry Fitzgerald. He came to my middle school.

Actually, I think it was the year they went to the Super Bowl. So, you know,

that was like one of my favorite players. And to see that happen was just so devastating.

So, yeah, I can't stand the Steelers. The bills, I feel for y'all a little key because

look, man, like having to go four years in a row can't get it done. And now seeing what's going

on now, because what, which year was it? Um,

some of the Kansas City game. Yes. That's the dude. That one. There's one other one. I think

it's known as like the 13 second game or something. Yeah. Yeah. It changed the rules for one, but

it kills me because like obviously my team keeps losing the Patty in the Super Bowl.

And what kills me about the 13 second one is like the fact that Alan didn't even get a chance.

Yeah. Like that will always sting a little bit because I like Josh Alan a lot. I mean,

now if we want to talk quarterbacks, it's definitely him or well Patty Joe Burrow.

Joe Burrow is amazing when he's healthy. Yes. Yeah. Josh Alan Lamar, but I feel those two

are interchangeable. I agree. I always say if those two swap teams today, neither team gets

better or worse because they do the same thing. I've never heard someone say that before, but

it makes sense. Well, I'll break that down real quick. If I may, uh, by all means, uh, you know,

I'm about to show my elite level ball knowledge here. Okay. Look, Josh Alan, great scrambler,

easily can run it, score a touchdown at will Lamar, great scrambler easily can score a touchdown at

will. You know, which they have better over each other. I'd argue Lamar is the better runner.

Josh Alan is the better passer. That's the only thing that separates them. But even in,

they're not very far off of each other. No, they're like one A one B. And every time

point flip every year, one always just has a better team than the other one. That's all it ever is.

It's about the cast. Exactly. So again, Ravens fans, Bill's fans, don't get mad at me. I'm just

pointing out the facts. You can look at this yourself. But, uh, but no, I mean, even then,

going back to the whole Divo situation, you know, that one probably just stung a little bit because,

you know, I was trying to tell him, you know, like, bro, I'm such a big fan. Like, you know,

I'm hoping y'all get the dub this year, hoping y'all get the championship this year. And

to get treated like that, like, oh yeah, it stings till this day because it's like, dude, like,

you came at me disrespectful. And actually, too, another funny part about that. Me and my

always started getting so irritated. I told my homie, I'm like, you know, now that I see that

me and him are the exact same height, if you want to jump in, like, I'm all for it at this point,

I'm not going to hold you. I'm like, I don't feel intimidated at all. I'm like, so it's up to you.

And he's like, nah, I'm like, I understand, dude, I was, I was telling you, like, Hey,

look, this is Austin, or he starts talking too crazy. Like, yeah, it's about to go down about

to crash out. But yeah, you know, like I said, don't meet your heroes all the time. And also,

I'm glad he's still free aging. Oh, is he? He's still, he keeps getting hurt, man. Oh, yeah,

that's all he's ever done. Stop eating those Twinkies, dog. I mean, CMC's always hurt too, but

yeah, but problem is that for all intents and purposes, he's probably an incredible guy. I

feel like the Panthers kind of hurt his career, just you just early on way overuse. Yeah. And I

feel like we're still continuing that to a degree, but I feel the damage was already done.

The dude had to play quarterback in the playoffs. That was insane.

That one still stings. I'm not gonna lie. That was like the one year. That's the one year that

the Eagles brag about beating the Niners. I'm like, dude, they were down to like literally

their fifth string quarterback was a running back. Like, what are we talking about? But here's the

problem too, though. I literally said, I don't care that Jalen Hurts has that ring. I'm still

taking Perti all day because when you look at Perti's rookie year, if he retired tomorrow,

he's statistically better than half of the quarterbacks we've ever seen play. Yeah. Just off

that one season. I remember watching him at Arizona. I mean, Iowa State. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude,

nasty. Like, and to get him, especially that late, and he ends up winning the top of it.

Oh, yeah. It's still one of the craziest stories I've ever seen. But no, I mean, even then, it's

like, you know, getting to meet a lot of famous people like that, it's definitely cool. Like,

I don't fanboy a lot when it comes to it. I mean, yeah, because it's like, at the end of the day,

you're just a person to me. And I mean, with how many famous people I've met already, or it will

potentially get to meet in the future. Yeah, boy. I mean, it's like, it is what it is, man, you know.

Who's the most famous person that you've met that you wanted to meet?

Because sometimes you're in situations, right? And it's like, oh, that's so and so.

Oh, cool. I met, oh, okay. Yeah, I met, and this is bullshit. But like, oh, I met Brad Pitt.

But I was never like looking forward to meeting Brad Pitt, but that would be awesome. But it's

like, if it's somebody else, like, man, I just one day, I would, it would be so cool if I was

in the same room with George Clooney, and then you get an opportunity to meet George Clooney.

You know, is there anybody has that moment happened yet for you?

I'd say one. And it was just completely random. So Seema a few years ago, we're at the Hoonigan

burn pit. I noticed this dude walking out. And it was crazy. Nobody realized who it was because I'm

like, cowboy? Donald Sirone? He's like, Oh, yeah, that's me. I'm like, I don't know that is the USC

fighter. Okay. Yeah, I'm like, Hey, can I get a facial, please? Of course. Yeah. So that was super

cool to get to meet him. You want to have a small talk with him at all? Just a little bit. Not too

quick because he was on his way somewhere. So I didn't want to keep him too long. You know,

I'm very respectful when it comes to everybody's time. You know, him, I guess I could say again to

me, Nikaisan. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, how did that go? Did you just like exchange pizzas?

It was very quick because he was in the middle of this English isn't great, right? It not at all.

Yeah. But you know, it was very quick because he was in the middle of building a RWB Eka guy

out here. So very quick, just, you know, spoke the little bit of Japanese I could too. So for

people who don't know who that is, he's really famous in the car world. It's very po, he's a

polarizing person. Yes, especially with the Porsche, you know, fan base. But he goes around and he,

if you pay him enough, he'll fly to you and he will hack up your Porsche. If it's the right model

year and turn it into kind of a semi white body ish, RWB is what they're known for. And

we've got some RWB friends, but he's kind of a big deal. So yeah. So it was cool getting to meet

him. And actually, you say RWB friends, one of my longtime friends that owns RWB Blackbird,

actually kind of just helped me talk with him a little bit because they're great friends.

So it was cool getting to meet him. And then I'll tell you about one that I almost had a chance

to meet, but my little brother ruined that for me. Almost had a chance to meet T-Pain.

Oh, no shit. Yeah. My little brother, very good friends with her and Gary King, who I've actually

also gotten to meet. Actually, I'll tell that story here shortly. My little brother was actually

filming a, which his name is Wesley Davis, owner of Endless Media. He's filming a reel with T-Pain

at the Hoonigan Burn Pit. And I told him, call me if you meet T-Pain. I just want to say hi.

Never called me. And then we're in the hotel room. I see him editing the reel Mike.

Bro, we had a conversation. Dude, I literally went and punched him straight out the gate.

Dude, how dare you? I feel so betrayed right now because I told you I just wanted to meet T-Pain.

It is what it is. Gary King, who I also got to meet that year, I see him. So

I get a random FaceTime from Wes and Gary King's on the phone. This dude proceeded to just stunt on

me with the old WWE spinner belt. It's just talking so much trash to me. Just out of fun.

When I'm over here like, did you call me just for this to happen? I'm like, I feel so betrayed

again. Now I got Gary back years later, but you know, it's all good. Love that dude today,

super nice guy. And then actually another one that I got to meet was Johnny Grunwald. I've

actually met him twice. We follow each other on Instagram. You got to get him on the pod.

You know, I think I may have met him in 2018 when I was doing the media tour with the VF1

SNSX because I was at, we would go to Long Beach. So we would go to, I forgot the show,

but they had, one of the shows doesn't exist anymore, but it's AC. And every time I see

auto cannon, I think about it. But anyway, we used to go to this, this car show out there.

Yeah. And I think, I think Johnny had a, maybe a bitch in FD or something.

Oh yeah. Yeah. He's still a white one. Yeah. You still has it. Yeah. I think he was there.

And I'm pretty sure I met him because if I were to DM him, he might DM me back. So that tells me

that I probably met the guy at some point. You know, it's funny you mentioned that that NSX

because I remember seeing it a while ago and I never knew it was yours. It actually

cracked me up when you posed itself about it, just kind of reminisced it over in a white,

that was yours. I'm like, wow, okay. I'm like a childhood star that only had that one show.

And then I'm at the Comic Con signing autographs as a booth, you know, now that I'm an old crazy

adult, you know, that's crazy. Yeah, but no, I mean, I had a chance to meet some pretty cool

people, man. I'm always fortunate. Yeah. And I mean, I hope it continues, honestly.

I got two things for you. Yes. And granted, that doesn't have to end there. But one,

we haven't talked about cars at all. We should probably do that.

Well, it's a non-automotive automotive podcast. So it's not a requirement. Of course.

But I know you've talked about a project. I want to say maybe G35.

Yes. So I would assume the coupe. Yes. Okay. And it is manual. I know how to drive a manual.

I know, I know it's kind of surprising. I could burn that for a second.

Because a lot of memes in the last, I don't know, eight years, you know, the like the anti theft

device is have a, have a manual because of the younger generation and a lot of times they like

to make fun of people for not knowing how to drive a manual. And I've never liked that because

once upon a time, automatics were luxury. You paid more for an automatic, even in my time,

I mean, I'm 50, but even in the late 90s, if you wanted an automatic, it costs more than the

manual counterpart. Yeah. And there's a reason why when you go to these smaller countries that

don't have a lot of money, everyone's driving sick. The fucking cab that picks you up, it's a cab.

It's a van with a, with a five speed, right? Every truck has a five speed. So I always push

back on that. I'm like, come on, can we stop making fun of young people who can't drive a stick?

Because now a manual is the luxury. So you want your answer to that? No, we can't.

We can't. Okay. All right. No, that's fine. No, I got taught my son how to drive a stick. I taught

my wife how to drive a stick because we had Audi's. I refused to teach my daughter how to

drive a stick because I thought she was going to steal the car. That makes sense. I'm not gonna lie.

Kids go through a phase. I didn't want her still in my NSX. I didn't want her still in the Audi.

So I never taught her how to drive a stick. Which I'm going to actually say this to you,

I commend you because my greatest fear on earth is to have a daughter. And it's only because

everybody else, I know I will be that crazy overprotective dad. So I understand.

The G35. So the G35, how do we regret buying that? No, no, no, no, it's not even for the reason

that you would think. I know it's the takeover slash Edgar car now. Is that what it is? It's

like the couple of Dodge models. Oh, yeah, I know where you're getting that.

Yeah, you know, there's always see those and there's a few. I mean, I just reeled on some guy,

some old man who has a classic plate on his Altima, you know, some of the old Altimas.

So it's not even about like the car itself. It's just about like,

I wish I would have just like

instinct would have kicked in to tell me like, I don't don't buy this one specifically because

you had you bought it for a reason. Yeah, I needed a car. My

Well, it hadn't been another reason. I mean, there's tons of cars out there. Maybe you will.

You like that car. Well, I needed a car. I was kind of in a pinch because the transmission

on the fusion had started slipping. And I told myself, was that before or after

Debo saying you'll say get that car on my driveway? Oh, way after. But

so I needed a car. I told myself, I'm getting a manual for the next car. I miss it. I want to

get back in one. So me and my buddy, we drive down to Tucson. That's where I made my first

mistake. I'm sorry. Or hey, but Tucson is a dump. I'll forever stand on that.

The dirty tea, which I didn't even know was called. Shut up the dirty tea.

Yeah. That was the first mistake I shouldn't have even drove down there.

By the car, everything's checking out. I should have noticed a few things that now our good friend

Danny has pointed out to me who's actually he was working on one too for a while. Oh,

yeah, he owns one. He's been helping me out a bit with mine. But

everything checked out for the time being. It was when I got it back home. That's when

everything started going wrong. Of course, random misfires, white smoke.

So trying to, I keep thinking that I keep fixing the issue. I know I'm continuously chasing the

issue. Take it to the tech. As I'm explaining all the symptoms he tells me stops me. He's like,

get a new motor. I'm like, whoa, what do you mean? Because he knows. Yeah. He's like, so

it's basically they did a quick fix on it that just kind of mask all the problems.

For the sale. Yeah. And he told me I could do that just so you can dump the car onto somebody

else. But I know you're not that type of dude. So just get a new motor. Cool. Shout out to him

because he actually worked on my old right hand drive Z 32. I did wonders with that car too,

because that thing was a nightmare at times. We all know those things are nightmares to a degree.

But so as I've been working on the project, it was recently that I found out what was the main

cause of the random misfires. I mean, obviously the gas gets go bad. But one of the idiots,

and I can't even fully say that it was the dude that sold it to me because I don't even think he

knew one of the idiots on the car before I'd say either one of us, he put the rev up fuel injectors

into the DE, which you cannot do.

This match application. Oh yeah, you cannot do it unless you tune the car. Right. Yeah. And I know

that thing is not tuned. So I'm like, oh my God, but I'm glad I found it because I'm like, okay,

I never would have known. So it's like, okay. Bottom line got the new motor. Finally going to

get back to working on it and kind of getting closer to pulling the old one out finally and

putting the new one in, hoping to get that thing done by mid July is what I'm shooting for.

But I mean, on the plus side, though, I'm going to come out of this with a 23 year old car. That's

essentially brand new because I mean, you're going to get the classic plate. I'm thinking about it.

I'm not going to lie. But I also want that new black one that they just came out with.

Yeah, the black Arizona plate. Yeah. I mean, I like the cause that it's for, you know, that's

something I love to donate towards. So I mean, why not? But I mean, if I can get that classic one,

hey, of course, I'm getting the classic one. But yeah, so hopefully going to be getting that thing

on the road mid July is what I'm shooting for. But I mean, I've kind of learned with this process.

It's a lot of, well, you're already down there and you can actually get to that

part easier on the motor. So you might as well as do it. Yeah. So basically that the new motor

is getting a whole overhaul from timing to basically new parts and all that. So, you know,

it's definitely a fun learning process. I hate it at times because it's a lot of me having to learn

as I'm going because my mechanical knowledge is very little like,

and it's a one time learn to exactly. You learn it for the job and you never,

you're going to forget it because you're never going to have to do it again.

Exactly. Because I've said so many times, dude, if somebody comes to me with the right offer,

I will sell this thing. Because like my also dream car with I've said so many times is a Mazda

RX 7FD. And I know that sounds crazy. No, no, but I'm also a firm believer in those motors can

be reliable if idiots just stop buying them that don't want to actually put in the work to maintain

it. I'll stand on that point to the day I die. But you know, it's a it's definitely been a fun

project. I will say that. And I'm looking forward to getting back to it. So yeah.

But I do need to get rid of that Tome Exhaust because I I very I know you remember that joke

I cracked at the last air of it out. I think that was a Camaro that you know had to do that pool.

Of course, there's always somebody and I said, man, over my area, that would be a G35 with the

Tome Exhaust. I was talking about myself. I don't do pools. I just want to point that out.

I do need to get rid of the Tome Exhaust on my car because it's annoying.

Yeah, but I mean, I will say though, I actually have always liked the G35 over the 350. I like

the body style a little bit better because the 350 like it it's almost too tuner like to me,

in a sense, versus like the G35 kind of has like a more appealing look because it's like a good

blend. It has a it's a more mature look. Yes, that's a perfect. It's a more mature look. One of my

one of my old school besties who is now I think he's an executive or he's at a really high level

at Toyota. Oh, cool. We almost never talk. We follow each other online. He was part of my

first car group, but he had a really nice, a white, yes, kind of pearly white G35 coupe

was part of this car club down in Dallas. Interesting. You know, his car was sick as fuck.

Yeah. So I mean, a little different than the sedan, which is not sick at all. The sedan is

absolutely garbage. They shouldn't even name it the same thing because they kind of don't really

look like each other. Or you got that one dude that's been on the internet talking about just

because he owns a G35 will technically I own a skyline because that's what it's called overseeing

my cut it out. So my old Infinity FX series, they share a lot of stuff with the 350 and the 370

not the FX 50 of course that I had because it's a V8. But the non V8 shares everything's like

interchangeable. Oh yeah. You know, that was that was the funny thing too when I first got the G

because I would explain to my mom like, oh yeah, this is technically 350. She's like, what? And I'm

like, if I took off every body panel and put on 350 body panels, they'd fit. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah,

she didn't believe me. So I had a show where I'm like, you see this? This is exactly how the 350

What's that crazy kit that people do?

Where they make it look like almost like a skyline? There's some kit that people you know I'm

talking about, right? Because I think that's what it's kind of weird, like a Vader. I think so.

Vader Vader kit or something. I think so. It makes it look like a high end exotic until

everyone's like, oh, that's just so I can tell you, like, if I do end up keeping the car for the

long haul, it actually is going to be a drift car. Okay, that was kind of the plan when I got it,

because it's already a restored salvage. So okay, I don't know about smacking it into a wall at this

point. But really, the inspiration that I'm kind of chasing is the old Falcon tire one. Yeah, kind

of something similar to it. Just because like, I had totally forgotten about that car. And then a

picture popped up just randomly on my feet. And I'm like, that's cool. Like, so that's probably

what I'm chasing. But even then too, though, like, I'm always thinking like, okay, if, you know,

divergent being blows up if I just somehow some way win the Lotto one day, like,

is that like them? Is that like the top of the umbrella? Divergent being so underneath it is

mechanism and drinks and kids. So divergent being is what everything is under. Like for me, it's

hard parking media. Yes. Got it. Okay. Yes. So that's the goal for that to blow up. Or, you know,

like I said, I hit the Lotto just out of the blue. Do you play the Lotto? I mean,

I like to buy it over here and there. So far, you know, my grandmother actually used to do it,

you know, you got rest or soul. We never, we never knew to my mom actually told me or I never knew

to my mom actually told me, oh, yes, you mean buying tickets and like, okay, so I kind of have

kept it alive a little bit. I only play when it gets like past like 500 mil.

Because I feel there's a point where it's like, if you're constantly buying them,

like, you have a problem, like that money, there's people who buy them every, I don't even know what

the date is. I'm going to say Wednesday and Friday or whatever it is, right? If you think about the

amount of money that people spend in that, you could have put that towards something else.

We always talk about winning the Lotto. We never play. We have in the past, like I've gone to

and I'm like, let me get the quick pick, you know, but when you think about it's like, damn it,

you know, how much money that people are, but every once in a while, you know, I get it because

you still have a chance no matter how slight it is. Exactly. But even then, I'm pretty tame about it

too. Like, I don't, like there's times when, nah, I'm good. But you know, I was said like,

okay, like if there's five cars I ever had to own and I always keep it at five because

that's a good handful number. Yeah. But I mean, I always say I'm very, I'm a firm believer in like,

I don't want to be too materialistic. So I always cap it off at five. Obviously,

RX7FD would be number one choice. What color would you get?

I would love to do the yellow just because I'm a big initial D fan.

You know, we have two yellows in town at minimum. Maybe more because you know, we have Tim,

it's Tim Isle. Isle, my bad. Tim Isle. Yes, I'm glad he finally like helped me learn that because

I'm like, I heard Greenback bought one recently too. Oh, which is like one of his besties.

I was actually hanging out with him earlier. I go, dude, you bought the same color cars,

your homie. Like there's not enough room for two yellows in town. Oh man, I tell you what,

I love Tim to death, man. My red dude has always been the nicest dude to me ever. But yellow,

that's cool. Yes. Or the Spirit R blue, just because the Spirit R was always my favorite one

because I was the final one. That is a trim. I think a lot of non die hard FD people have no

idea it exists. Exactly. Which is kind of crazy. Which includes myself. I just learned about that

like weeks ago. Oh really? Okay. I was looking at the thing, oh wait. Oh shit, that's kind of like

a type R ish. I tell you, it's like special. Yeah, so does you know that there's only one

left hand drive one in existence? I didn't know that. It was made for the president at the time

of Mazda North America. Yeah, so that's the only one. Would you vile site it? What do you think

about the vile site? Like no. I like it. No, I would. Jay Johnson, friend of the show. Oh yeah,

yeah. Personal friend of mine. I finally got to see his in person. I just the vile site, I just,

I can't get with the vile site RX7, NSX. Okay, so I appreciate it when I see him.

I feel like, okay, I like the kid. I'm glad he did blue because it kind of showed like, okay,

it does look good in other colors. Right, not just orange and black. Yeah, because I get so tired

of seeing people do orange and black. Like it's overdone. I've seen five of them just on Instagram

alone. It's like, I'm tired of it. So I'm glad he did a blue one. The only thing I'd say I don't

like is I don't like how big people do the wheels on that when they get that kit at times.

What was the the 118 scale thing you could buy that came with the giant wheels is like, I think

Hot Wheels or Model Masters or Metal Masters or somebody made something like that. But anyway,

that's what it always reminds me of. Yeah, so that throws me off. But other than that, I like the

kit, but I wouldn't do it just because I like the Ari Amemiya kit. And I know that's a tough word

for people to say it from what I've been told. It's Amemiya. Some people say Amemiya. Amemiya

from what I've been told. So I'm going to stick with that. Also to my buddy who actually owns

the shirt. Never content JP. He actually showed me his replica feed FD. And I told him if he ever

sells that I won't first crack at it. But you know, it had to be one of those kids because

I feel that's really the kit that really made me love the car, especially in fourth stage of

Initial D. So yeah, it had to be that kid. So I interrupted you on your list. Are you getting

back to it? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. RWB Porsche. I actually like the 997 a lot. Like from when it

first got unveiled to, you know, seeing a bunch of them now. I wouldn't mind a 993 if I could

find a 993 for a good price. Or that you had to be okay with cutting up. Well, that's why it's like

because I remember Jordan talking about it. I think it was on your pod.

It's either mine or maybe, maybe Jorge's. But he talked about how when Nakai-san got started,

he was actually taking wrecked ones and putting the kits on those. I would like to do that to kind

of keep that alive. Because honestly, it's a little more justifiable in my opinion. Now,

if you can't afford to cut up a, you know, fresh one, hey, more power to you. I can't do that.

Yeah. I mean, if I had a lot of money, I wouldn't care. Exactly.

That's just me, though. And again, this is ballpark. If I just had crazy. So we have, we have

FDRX, FD RWB Porsche. For REF 40 competition. Okay. Again, this is like I have crazy.

Hey, it's crazy. I mean, we got test drive unlimited to money. Exactly.

Man, that fourth one.

I would honestly say I'd love to get another FRS or just GR86.

Interesting. Okay. Just because I had a FRS.

Okay. Yeah. And that's coming in strong for it. So this is a no particular one.

Yeah. No particular one at all. That one is just a special attachment to me because I was like the

car I learned how to drive a manual on truly and I still will stand on. That's one of the greatest

like just base level sports cars, entry level sports cars that anybody could get into.

Yeah. And then that final one, I always like to keep that one open just because there's so

many good cars out there. You got to fill it right now though. All right. If I had to fill

and I don't know if I can answer this, but I mean, it wasn't a question, but I don't know if I could

pick five cars. So I get leaving one open, but you brought it up. I'll answer it.

So actually one that just popped on my radar. I'd love to get that car hard edition Ford F-150.

She got three incredibly impossible dream cars and you got two attainables.

Yes. Good for you. Yeah.

I gotta say I'm a simple semi attainable. Yeah. I'm a simple guy. You know,

I know that sounds crazy for me to say a car hard F-150. I like car hard and I actually have earned

my badge. So I'm just saying. And then what do you want out of mechanism because you have

mechanism and you have, you know, drinks and okay. So I for mechanism.

I'm actually going to go in general with everything

between that and just because I can, I've answered this question so many times. The answer never

changes. I want you to watch any type of content that we put out or even an article that we might

write because we're talking about getting into that in the future. I want you to just be able to

look at all the work that we put out 20 years later and still be able to say, you know, that's

still good. That's still good work. It holds up to this day. That's what I'm shooting for because

I don't like how we're in this short form content. Just get the content out regardless

because I don't feel like you can put out your best work that way. And I know that sounds crazy,

but I look, well, to people that do it, we understand, but yeah, it's crazy to the outsiders

that don't understand how content creation actually works. I always had to explain to them like,

if I was going to literally start all over tomorrow, I still would not change how I do things because

I'm all about quality over quantity. I mean, heck, you can see that even in my sneaker collection.

I don't have as many shoes as most sneaker heads would have, but that's why I'm big on quality

over quantity. I'm very selective. I mean, even from my clothing as well, I'm very selective on

what I pick. You find some white shoes yet for the suit? I mean, I have some, but, you know, it's

you just, as soon as we get fixed. So, and, you know, I'm looking forward to doing some work with

them as well. But, you know, even then to just trying to be very selective in general in everything

I do, you know, from, you know, certain podcasts that I might want to try to go on in the future,

certain people that I want to have on my stuff in the future. It's all about just curating

at the right time for me. I'd say that's my big thing.

Yeah. So, I hope that answers your question. It does. I'm going to ask you a question,

another one, because you didn't really fully answer it. Okay. Last time this was asked to you,

and I forgot the name of the gentleman who was on your podcast that I reached out to him and said,

I love you. Oh, Matt Freitz, yep. Matt Freitz, yes, yes. That's my dog. He asked you a question

and I was listening to it and I go, you didn't answer that question. You skirted around it.

And I can't let you get off the hook on that. Okay. And you may not have the answer yet. Okay.

But, because for each of us, we have to define within ourselves what this means. Okay. And I

think Matt even said that. So, specific to mechanism, what does success look like for you?

And you may have just said it, looking in the future back, but at the time,

you know, you were still chasing success. So, what is, ultimately, what does that success

look like for you? Okay. So, why did I feel like this was going to come up actually?

Were you thinking about your way here? Fucking Jay's going to ask me this shit at some point.

So, here's what's funny. You and Jorge have a very, like, you're good at having those questions

that I know I'm going to have to answer with the whole Kogan one. I knew he was going to bring

it up and I'm like, I might as well start thinking about that now. So, success for me.

Um, I don't necessarily want to say that I want to be held in regard as the best

to do this because... Well, that's why it's so personal. Yeah. Because no one can answer this,

but you. So, I don't want to say I want to be the best because I feel like that's too broad.

You can't measure it. Yeah, you can't measure it either because...

If you measured it, it'd be Joe Rogan based on numbers. Yeah. And, you know, even how I made

that statement with the episode with my nephew about how, you know, I feel I have one of the

better sneaker projects. Yeah. But even then, my numbers don't show. But I'd say success for me is

to a degree, I want to be known as, you know, just an artist in general. My craft is very well

respected because I don't label myself as a podcaster. So, I more so label myself as an artist

because I do just so much stuff. Your influencer. Nah, I can't stand that. I knew you're going to do that, too.

I knew it. I knew it was going to happen.

Isn't it fucked up how the word influencer has become like a negative thing?

Not really. I think it is. But I think it is, but I'm not surprised by it.

Yeah, yeah. That's different. But I pulled you off of that. What success look like for you?

I got to take about that, but I'll save it after I answer this.

No, I mean, like I said, I just want to be known as a very good artist. And, you know,

say I decide to bow out, you can't take anything away from me. That's really it.

That's what success looks like to me. And, you know, I would like to, because there's so many

other plans that I have, I'm actually currently working on an event that I can't speak about on

camera, so I'll say that for off camera. But, you know, I just want to be very respected for

my craft. That's really it. And I feel I'm already there and I'm just progressing even more.

So, I mean, I'm thankful for that. Now my influencer take because I had to get this out.

Let's get this out on a hot take. All right, look, influencers. I can't stand a lot of them.

And, you know, actually, I do want to bring this up. Chud the builder.

I've never been so glad to see somebody actually face consequences before my life,

because it's like, look, bro,

you don't got to be a dick to be famous or get fame. Just be a genuine person.

Be a nice person. Like all this hatred that you're spreading. Why don't you actually go use that

energy and do some good in the world because we could use a lot of that right now. That's all I'm

saying. So, I'm glad he's facing consequences. That's really it. But also, it kind of show,

it should show every influencer like there's consequences for your actions. And I hope

everybody is watching this and thinking maybe I should rethink that dumb idea that I have.

Sure. Because you and I, for example, we don't have a few money to bail us out of situations.

So, everything we do might potentially have consequences.

What's, I can't think of the guy's name right now, but who's that fucking dickhead who goes around

and actually he's going to pick fights with people? That's Chud the builder. No, no, no,

he's got another name. No, he can actually pick fights with people and then his bodyguard steps in.

In fact, he just got banned from waste management this last year. Wasn't that neon?

No, okay. What's his name? People are screaming at this right now. But anyway, he's one of those

people like his job, he goes around and he tries to bump, he purposely bumps into people. Oh,

I know who you're talking about. I just cannot remember the name. I didn't know who he was until

Haktua got famous. Okay. I know vaguely who you're talking about. The name is just escaping. Yeah,

he's got like a normal name. But anyway, you know, people like that give a bad name to the

influencer because when I think of influencers, people like Miss Amelia. Yes. You know,

who does it the right way? You know, you think about Jesse Wooji, who does it the right way?

And they were doing it the right way. And then you got all these other people come around.

There's a guy, I mean, Myron Gaines, obviously we talked about him earlier,

but there was a Johnny, do you know what Johnny Somali is?

Vaguely. So he's an American. I didn't know he was a fucking American. Apparently,

he's like an American Somali. But he would go around and do stupid shit. And he's recently

been sentenced in Korea because a Korean dude came up and punched his ass because he's like,

did anybody come up and punch me? And he actually got recently, you know, sentenced to a long time

over there. You know, so those are the air quotes influencers that have kind of fucked up what it

means to be an influencer because you're an influencer, I'm an influencer, but we will never

introduce ourselves as influencers because of the negative connotation and it's too bad.

Well, even then, it's like, because we influence people, not intentionally. Yeah, you know, it's

like, even when I'm over in Japan, you know, you know, actually, one of my favorite questions that

get asked when I go over there is, how are you viewed over there to volunteer for obvious reasons?

And I always tell them, like, you know, like, by the Japanese asked you that,

by friends out here, because they're always, yeah, they're always get it. Yeah, I've been there,

done that, but they've been to Japan. But I got yeah, now there are some we talk over there when

I'm over there about, you know, how is it being black in America? But I'll get to that in a second.

For my friends that asked me out here, you know, how am I viewed over there? I always tell them,

it depends who I'm talking to, because that older generation, they're a little like,

but they're at least respectful. That younger generation, I tell them, like, oh, they're used

to seeing black. I have a hot take. It's gonna get me in trouble. But continue your story. I gotta

hear this one. You're gonna agree with me. The Japanese, I tell them, you know, because my favorite

thing to do is I always like to attend one Japanese religious service, because usually I can find one

person that speaks English. And we talk and kind of like I like to explain things to them.

This last time, I told them because they asked me, so what made you want to come because you're not

gonna understand hardly anything. And I told them, well, I felt it was my duty to kind of come and

show you that how you guys are taught to view us as black Americans is false. And she kind of sat

their thought about it. And me, you know, I like the joke. So I'm giving her a second. Yeah. And then

she started laughing. I'm like, let's see what I mean. She's like, okay, I get what you're saying.

So it's always cool to get to talk to them about, you know, just the differences. But I gotta hear

this hot take. So how do you describe being black in America when you're in another country?

And to defend people from the other side of the world, they may not see a lot of dark-skinned

people, whether you're from America or Europe or anywhere else. And so you become a spectacle.

Okay, so it's more curiosity than like racism. Yes. Okay, I'll use a prime example.

How do you feel about Orange Man? Sure. Okay, that's a great example. Exactly. I tell them,

I don't like the guy. A lot of us don't like the guy. Well, depending on what demographic you are,

but even then that's still a stretch to even say. Yeah, I agree. I think it's a stretch to say.

Exactly. But I just let them know. I'm like, look, bro, believe it or not,

a lot of us don't like the guy. And I just leave it there. A lot of us as Americans or

black people. I'd say as Americans in general, but even then that's still a stretch to say.

So it's like, as black folks, I tell them like, I'd probably say it's majority,

but even then there's still those few that are. Do you think it's that though?

Or do you think it's because of the party affiliation? I mean, we could go on for another hour

about this. No, I feel you because, trust me, I gotta, even though I tell people all the time,

I'm not a political dude. I think it's more partisan than anything. I think it's a little

bit of a ball to a degree because, you know, like I said, I'm not a political dude by any means.

But you're a human. Exactly. So I, and also I look at it

because I'm like, it's just, you got to keep yourself informed to a degree.

Yeah, you can't rely on the media. Oh, of course not. But I said one time to somebody, you know,

I miss that period of Republicans, conservatives, specifically

the last time Mitt Romney, when he ran, because I felt that's when it was still respectful.

Because I mean, let's be real, nobody really liked Obama. And I'm saying,

no, no, I'm saying in terms of dare you, I like the guy actually, I was a great order.

Oh, yes, I'd love to have him on the pod. But of course, but you know, I'm saying people didn't

like him just because they were only just looking at what he was. They never actually sat there and

like wanted to actually hear him out. But I can say Mitt Romney and heck, even McCain at least

showed him the proper respect, regardless that they agreed with him or not. So those two were

probably the last two that I actually respected. But I miss that period because it's like,

you know how some people say I miss when politics was boring? I understand. Because I

yes, you heard about it, but there wasn't craziness going on for real for real. And people kind of

kept it to themselves. I miss that period. Because who do you blame for that?

Maga. But I feel like there's even more to blame. Honestly, just us as human beings because I blame

social media. Oh, that too. But because back in the day, no one it seems like it was more tame,

but no one knew. Yes, 100%. No one was talking 100% because politicians have been out of their minds

for decades. Yes. But that's where I say us as human beings. Because I go back to my earlier

point I said at the start of the episode, some people just need to learn to shut up.

Trust me, I'm pretty sure we both could have had opinions on this episode alone that people would

have been in an uproar about. But we chose not to say them. So it's like, why can't anybody else

have some common sense and decency to do the same thing? I mean, trust me, I got a lot of points

I can make. But it's like, hey, for the sake of the episode and the sake of, look, you don't

got to hear every opinion I have. I don't feel the need to say it. So I just leave it at that.

And, you know, trying to explain that to them over there is always interesting,

regardless of who I'm talking to. But, you know, I love going over there, honestly, because I had

to explain to somebody one time, like, you know, what, what makes you say that you feel safer

over there? And I'm like, I told him, look, dude, I know in reality, they don't like me because

I'm a foreigner. It's not even about how I look. I'm an interesting year. I think you're accurate

with that. And nobody was as willing to admit that. But I think you're 100% accurate with that.

They're, they only don't like me because I'm a foreigner to it. But they still, it's just embedded

in their culture, the common decency to just show me the proper respect because that but then it's

almost like it's respect out of fake. Exactly. It's just not want to dishonor themselves.

Exactly. But I can live with that. Canadians are really nice, but they hate you.

Yeah. That's like a joke. normal Canadian joke, you know.

But I mean, in reality, though, it's like, I go over there, like, it's like, dude, I'm spending

money. I'm helping your economy. people. And I'm not causing a ruckus. I'm

saying regardless if you like me or not, I feel like that's the just bare minimum that you could

ask for for anybody that's coming into your country. So I always try to do that. You know,

I always try to show my proper respect regardless if you like me or not, because that was the

number one thing I was taught by my parents. You always show respect.

Yeah. I'll end on this. I would say that, and this wasn't my, I wasn't going to say this earlier,

but in talking with you just now, one being a lot of Americans don't realize this.

Yes. This is actually, and I haven't been brainwashed. This is actually still one

of the greatest countries in the world for a number of reasons.

Racism in this country is nothing compared to many other countries in the world.

We don't seem to realize that, but I do honestly believe that. And

a lot of, at least the first world, because you know, you got third world countries,

most of the first world Asian countries are far more intolerant to foreigners and immigrants than

most people here in this country would ever imagine. Same thing with LGBTQ, like there are

countries that will kill you. We don't do that here. But my hot take from earlier, and I've

experienced this, and I know this to be true, is that to me, the most racist people in America

aren't black people. They're not white people. There are Asian friends, parents.

Dude, the fact that the previous generation Asian parents do not like anybody. And it's not even just

if I'm old Japanese, it's not about the black white people. Fuck the Chinese. Are you dating a

Vietnamese person for real? Not in my family. You know, so then when we hear these arguments

about, well, my parents don't like this. I was like, you know how the Asian people are?

If you're Korean, you better marry another Korean. Don't even bring a Japanese person home.

The fact that one of my longtime friends who-

Like my age people? They're not like that. Not all of them, but there's still a lot of people

of age that are. One of my longtime friends, Vietnamese, he told me, you know, out of my few

black friends, you and one other one are the only two that my parents actually like. I'm like,

yeah. I'm like, dude, I don't even know how to take that, but okay.

A lot of it's tradition. A lot of it is social media. A lot of it is weirdly movies and stereotypes.

Oh yeah. You know, but it's just like, but most people here in America, your average American

would never believe that or even think about it. But it's just, I don't know, it's just one of those

things. Like, look, you can't cancel me for that, but I know it. I believe it. I lived it to be

true and I've observed it. Oh yeah. You know. Yeah. I mean, hey, it is what it is. How can we find you?

So you can follow me on my personal- Did you have like three? You have like a creeper one,

not really creeper, but like, I'm gonna follow people to be an asshole one, right? Like a

throwaway account. And then you have your main one. Not really, actually. So I have my main one,

real machism. Yeah. Real machism, which that's a joke in and of itself. I have to tell another time.

And then obviously divergent being, and I'm assuming you're going to plug all these. I'll

find all the other ones as well. The magism effect gets linked in with real machism. So yeah,

you'll find it there. Yeah. And then if you can find it, there is a spam one that I'm not going

to nudge around. You got to go look for that one. I told you. No, but even then though, I literally

just post photos and once like you understand the premise behind it, actually, shout out to Matt

Fritz because he gave me the idea. You'll crack up when you find it. Yeah. But that's how you find me.

Devonte, thank you so much for coming by Heart Parking. It's been a pleasure.

Obviously, we're going to collab again and we're going to do like a three way thing with Mr. Jorge

Aquino, the pot father. Yeah. He's the pot father. What do we call him? What do we call him?

I mean, he called you the Godfather. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And he has a better podcast than I do.

Hey, well, man, I call it the big three episode. We got to get it done. I'm Kendrick though.

Thanks, man. Thank you.

A lot to unpack there with Mr. Devonte Mack. We had a blast. He's off that wine. I'm off that tequila

and hopefully you guys are still with us. That was a lot of fun. I'm going to link all the socials

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About this episode

Wine, energy drinks, and caffeine pills kick things off before the conversation settles into podcasting and culture. DeVante Mack explains how his self-funded approach evolved since 2020, tracing the “Mackism Effect” back to an earlier show, and shares how he keeps guests comfortable with structured Q&A. The hosts then dig into hot-take incentives, editing boundaries, and what “success” means beyond numbers. The episode also blends in car-culture stories—manuals, RX-7 FD preferences, and RWB widebody origins—plus sponsor reads and wrap-up plans.

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Original notes

Episode 327: DeVante Mack - Podcasting, Culture & Boundary-Pushing Conversations

Jhae Pfenning welcomes fellow podcaster DeVante Mack (The Mackism Effect / Maximum Effect on the Divergent Being Network) to the Gilbert, AZ studio for Episode 327 of Hard Parking. In true non-automotive automotive podcast fashion, they cover podcast journeys, shared car culture interests, friendship, and the kind of real talk that might ruffle feathers.

From "drinks and cakes" to old head/young energy dynamics, this laid-back in-studio chat is packed with laughs and insight. Perfect for fans of authentic creator conversations.

DeVante Mack Socials:
X: @REALMACKISM
Instagram: @realmackism
YouTube: @Realmackism

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro & Sponsors (Right Honda / Right Toyota)
01:30 - Welcoming DeVante Mack
05:45 - Podcast Origins & Divergent Being Network
12:20 - Car Culture Crossovers
22:10 - Studio Vibes: Drinks, Cakes & Generational Energy
35:50 - Topics That Might Get Us Canceled
48:30 - Creator Life & Lasting Friendships
1:05:00 - Listener Engagement & Stories
1:20:45 - Patreon Thanks & Outro

Full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/4jFc6BOa5gM

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