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Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain

Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain

The Diesel Podcast Apr 20, 2026 82 min
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About this episode

EPA guidance on DEF urea quality sensors (UQS) is framed as potentially reducing derate events, but the guests argue it doesn’t equal legal “DEF delete” freedom. Lawyer Stuart explains the EPA issued March 26 guidance and intends formal rulemaking to stop mandating unreliable UQS sensors, relying more on NOx sensors instead. Corey Willis (tuning/engineering) says real-world impact is limited: ECU modeling, possible check-engine behavior, and no clear aftermarket path. They also debate enforcement trends, consequential damages, state-level shifts, and why “loopholes” for race/ag use are narrow and risky.

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DEF deletes

"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain"

“DEF deletes” means bypassing or removing the system that uses a special fluid to clean diesel exhaust. It can reduce costs or change performance, but it can also make the truck illegal to operate on public roads depending on where you live.

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emissions compliance (legal perspective)

"...so we could cover the legal perspective of some of the emissions, DF stuff with trucks."

They’re talking about whether changing emissions systems on trucks is allowed by law. The rules can vary, and the truck may still need to meet emissions testing requirements.

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trucks derating

"...the issue with trucks derating and it affecting trucks, equipment, farm equipment."

Derating means the truck automatically makes less power. It usually happens when the emissions system senses a problem, and the truck limits performance to avoid damage or to stay within emissions limits.

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EPA guidance

"So on March 26th, the EPA issued guidance on deaf sensors specifically... And what this guidance seeks to address is quality problems and failures with what are called the UQS."

EPA guidance is the government’s official clarification about how a rule should be followed. Here, it’s about how certain emissions monitoring/sensor setups are treated under the rules.

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deaf sensors

"So on March 26th, the EPA issued guidance on deaf sensors specifically. It's called a deaf quality monitoring using alternate sensor technology."

“Deaf sensors” is a term people use when they try to stop the truck’s emissions system from reacting normally to what the sensors report. The EPA guidance mentioned here is about how sensors are handled and what’s allowed.

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Urea quality sensors (UQS)

"But the UQS are the Urea quality sensors... they're famously unreliable for diesel vehicles... determine what the quality of the Urea is that's actually going to the SCR system."

These sensors check whether the DEF you’re using is “good enough” for the system to treat exhaust correctly. If the sensor can’t trust what it’s seeing, the truck may limit power so it can’t run in a way that would pollute more.

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SCR system

"...determine what the quality of the Urea is that's actually going to the SCR system... when a UQS sensor fails, what happens is that it derates the vehicle..."

SCR is the part of a modern diesel that cleans up exhaust. It injects a special fluid (DEF) into the exhaust so the engine can meet emissions rules.

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derates the vehicle

"Because when a UQS sensor fails, what happens is that it derates the vehicle and then whoever is driving that vehicle is stuck doing whatever they're doing..."

A derate means the truck won’t make full power anymore. It’s like the computer putting the engine into a “limited” mode because something in the emissions system isn’t working right.

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NOx sensors

"So you have your NOx sensors, which actually keep track of the NOx that is emitted by diesel vehicles and then you have the UQS."

NOx sensors are sensors in the exhaust that detect harmful exhaust gases from diesel engines. They help the car figure out how much pollution is coming out so it can reduce it.

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EPA issues guidance

"We're gonna issue guidance saying there is a problem with these. So the way that it works legally is the EPA issues guidance on what they're gonna do and then they seek to create what's called a proposed rule."

EPA guidance is the agency’s explanation of how it plans to handle a regulation. It can signal what changes are coming, even before the final rules are written.

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proposed rule

"and then they seek to create what's called a proposed rule. And I know a lot of times on the podcast we've talked about formal rulemaking, informal rulemaking."

A proposed rule is the EPA’s “draft plan” for changing regulations. It usually comes before the final decision, after the agency lays out the reasoning and process.

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formal rulemaking vs informal rulemaking

"I know a lot of times on the podcast we've talked about formal rulemaking, informal rulemaking. You know, the EPA is a governmental administrative agency has the authority to create formal rules where they're interpreting the law."

Rulemaking is how government agencies write new rules. The hosts are saying there are different legal “process types,” and the EPA can use them to change how requirements are enforced.

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Clean Air Act

"And in this case, the law, as we know, is the Clean Air Act. And when they are interpreting this specific requirement for the Clean Air Act, they want to make a rule that says that they are no longer going to mandate the UQS"

The Clean Air Act is a major U.S. law that sets rules for limiting air pollution. Here, the EPA is using that law to decide whether certain emissions requirements (like sensor mandates) should change.

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EPA enforcement vs formal rulemaking

"The formal rule, which is closer to a law, it's not actually legislation that goes through Congress... The EPA intends to issue a formal rule related to the UQS sensors soon. There's no defined timeline."

They’re explaining that EPA actions don’t always come as a brand-new law passed by Congress. Sometimes EPA issues guidance or rules, and enforcement can still depend on what the agency decides to treat as a violation.

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UQS sensors

"The EPA intends to issue a formal rule related to the UQS sensors soon. There's no defined timeline."

UQS sensors are sensors that help the car/truck confirm its emissions system is working as intended. If someone deletes or changes them, it can make the vehicle fail emissions rules and may cause trouble.

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diesel truck

"what does it mean for someone who's got a diesel truck right now and they've just heard about this?"

They’re talking about diesel trucks that use an emissions system to keep exhaust cleaner. If you change or remove parts of that system, it can affect both legality and how the truck runs.

Company

SBA

"Well, we actually had a meeting with EPA and SBA and some others yesterday on this topic ..."

SBA is mentioned as another group that was in the meeting with the EPA. The excerpt doesn’t clearly explain what SBA stands for here, but it’s being treated like a stakeholder in the discussion. The key point is that multiple agencies/groups were involved.

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ECU

"... they're basically gonna create a model in the ECU, kind of like they did during COVID whenever they couldn't get sensors ..."

The ECU is the truck’s main computer. It uses sensor readings to decide what to do—like how much to inject or how to control emissions. Here, they’re talking about the computer using a “best guess” model when certain sensor data isn’t available.

Company

Cummins

"... whenever they couldn't get sensors, if you recall that, and Cummins dealt with all that later on, right?"

Cummins is a major diesel engine manufacturer, and the segment references how Cummins handled sensor supply issues during COVID. The context implies Cummins later implemented strategies to manage emissions controls when sensors were unavailable or unreliable. This is relevant because the episode is about how OEMs respond to DEF/NOx sensor-related compliance challenges.

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D-Rate system

"And if we don't have a D-Rate system in place, then the vehicle might throw a code."

A D-Rate system is an emissions-related derate strategy used by some diesel manufacturers to reduce engine power when emissions faults are detected. The segment suggests that if the D-Rate system isn’t in place, the vehicle might throw a code instead of managing the fault via derating. This is part of how manufacturers keep compliance while handling sensor or emissions-system issues.

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diesel exhaust fluid

"...not pay the expensive fee for the diesel exhaust fluid that you put in your trucks."

DEF is a special liquid you add to many newer diesel trucks. The truck uses it to clean up exhaust, so it can meet emissions rules.

Car

Toyota A90

"Okay, that's fine, but at the same time, if that's a 90% failure item on the DEF system, so to speak, but we have an 88% failure item right behind it"

The Toyota Supra is a sports car made for fast driving and sporty handling. The podcast mention about “DEF” is about a system some diesel cars use to reduce pollution, and they’re talking about how often parts of that system might fail. If you own one, that can affect how expensive repairs are.

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no guidance

"And the big thing is, is there is no guidance. So we reached out to EPA, we're waiting on them to get back with us."

They’re saying the EPA hasn’t given clear rules yet. Without clear answers, it’s hard to know what will be considered legal or compliant.

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temporarily disable these systems

"you notice where they said that you can use any tool, any system to basically override and temporarily disable these systems ... The key word in there was they said any tools and it's a temporary override."

They’re talking about whether you can turn emissions equipment off for a short time. The key point is that it’s supposed to be temporary, not a permanent removal of the system.

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override

"you notice where they said that you can use any tool, any system to basically override and temporarily disable these systems so that way they can still work."

An override is a way to force the emissions system to behave differently than it normally would. Whether it’s allowed depends on how it’s done and whether it’s meant to be temporary.

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mobile source side of things

"but that is not the same provision we're working with right now on the mobile source side of things. Cause they're just saying we basically just, we're gonna create a new model for the UQS"

“Mobile source” just means vehicle emissions. They’re saying the rules/allowances for vehicles may be different from the rules for agriculture or other categories.

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next administration comes in undoes this

"This stuff has to get really, really tight and before even OEMs jump on to it. Cause like Stuart said before, the next administration comes in undoes this."

This highlights how regulatory enforcement and policy can change with political leadership. For emissions-related modifications, that means today’s “legal” interpretation may not remain stable, affecting long-term legality and compliance strategy.

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emissions compliance feedback loop (administration talking to the field)

"I mean, they're actually talking to people out in the field like, you know, it's like, like Stuart, like us, we never had a voice before, where now they're doing things and they can get feedback and we were able to give them feedback as to what the public perception is"

They’re talking about regulators getting input from people who deal with these trucks every day. That helps them understand what’s actually happening and adjust the approach.

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after-treatment

"One thing for sure is that the administration wants to tackle the whole after-treatment issue. It's just, how do you get there? And how can you unravel things in such a way that gives people a little bit of relief?"

After-treatment is the part of a diesel that cleans the exhaust after the engine makes it. If it detects a problem, the truck may reduce power to stay within emissions rules.

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DEF sensor

"...and the exhaust may be stuffed as a potato and the level sensor stuck on the DEF sensor"

The DEF sensor monitors conditions related to the diesel exhaust fluid system, such as fluid level and/or quality, so the vehicle can dose DEF correctly. If the sensor is stuck or inaccurate, the truck may think DEF isn’t available and trigger de-rating or other protective behavior.

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endangerment finding

"then whole endangerment, finding things coming to the head... and what is that... about Monday or Tuesday next week?"

An “endangerment finding” is basically a government conclusion that certain pollution is dangerous. The important nuance here is that the finding for climate pollution doesn’t automatically decide everything about other types of exhaust pollution.

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greenhouse gases

"once we can establish, like the endangerment finding, that's for greenhouse gases, which doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the criteria pollutants..."

Greenhouse gases are the emissions that contribute to climate change. The key point is that rules for climate pollution can be separate from rules for other types of air pollution.

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criteria pollutants

"that's for greenhouse gases, which doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the criteria pollutants, but what is very important is the way"

Criteria pollutants are the main types of dirty air emissions regulators focus on for health reasons. The transcript is saying that climate-related findings don’t automatically settle how these other pollutants are regulated.

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emissions and meet current standards

"Can we delete a vehicle right now? Can we remove the emissions and meet current standards? The answer is no."

This is about regulatory compliance: whether a vehicle can be modified (or emissions equipment removed) while still meeting the emissions limits required by law. In practice, if the OEMs and certification process can’t achieve the required standards, it affects what’s legally and technically feasible for aftermarket changes.

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going all electric

"the manufacturers basically said, well, we can't meet that, so we're going all electric."

The speaker is saying that if diesel emissions rules get too hard to meet, companies may decide to focus on electric vehicles instead.

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current tier is too high

"And the reality is, is the benchmark of emissions right now, the current tier is too high for the manufacturers to hit."

A “tier” is like an emissions difficulty level set by regulators. If it’s “too high,” it means the rules are stricter than manufacturers can realistically meet right now.

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go back to something a little bit more reasonable

"So we have to go back to something a little bit more reasonable."

This is about changing the emissions rules to be less strict. If the rules get easier, manufacturers may be able to comply without needing as aggressive technology.

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calibration

"[855.8s] It's not like it has no emission system in the calibration. [859.1s] The calibration's even done in a way [861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier."

Calibration is the car computer’s settings for how it runs and how it manages emissions equipment. Changing calibration can change how clean the exhaust is and whether the car passes emissions rules.

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2007 vs 2012 emissions standards

"[861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier. [865.9s] But the vehicle's so clean on modern technology [868.1s] that it's actually surpassing 2012 standards, [871.5s] where the vehicles were in 2012."

They’re comparing older and newer emissions rules. Even if a diesel is cleaner than older limits, passing today’s inspection depends on what the car is actually doing and how it’s tested.

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emissions to 2007 levels

"[859.1s] The calibration's even done in a way [861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier. [865.9s] But the vehicle's so clean on modern technology"

They’re talking about making the car’s emissions match older legal limits. Since rules get stricter over the years, meeting an older standard doesn’t always mean the car is compliant with today’s requirements.

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smog testing

"[873.0s] And that's with a modern vehicle without aftertreatment. [875.4s] And it's also convenient because they pass smog testing. [878.8s] So you'd be able to go to your local place, get smogged. [881.4s] None of us want a dirty vehicle or smelly vehicle on the road. ... [900.0s] If you pass smog, press go."

Smog testing is the official check to make sure your car isn’t polluting too much. On newer cars, the test can also look at whether the car’s emissions systems have been properly checked by the computer.

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readiness monitors

"[884.3s] So it'll pass smog and everything without emissions, [886.7s] even on a current vehicle. [887.9s] You just won't pass the readiness monitors. [890.2s] So that's something the administration would have to look at."

Readiness monitors are like the car’s self-check results for emissions systems. If the car hasn’t run (or can’t complete) those checks, the inspection computer may reject it even if it seems to be running normally.

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consent decrees

"Many, many of the consent decrees that we did earlier on,"

Consent decrees are court-approved agreements that require certain rules to be followed. In emissions cases, they can strongly influence what changes are allowed to a vehicle’s emissions systems.

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OBD

"they don't want you to even be able to touch or modify the OBD, which is ridiculous."

OBD is the car’s self-check system for emissions and other important parts. If you change things that affect how the car reports emissions data, it can cause legal trouble and may also affect inspections.

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tuner

"You can go out and you can buy a tuner for a gas vehicle."

A tuner is a device that changes how the car’s computer runs the engine. It can make the car feel stronger, but it can also interfere with emissions systems and what the car reports during inspections.

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chip

"You can go out and you can buy a chip for pretty much any vehicle on the road."

A chip is a way to change the car’s computer settings. It can change performance, but it may also affect emissions controls and inspection results.

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emission standards

"you're listening to what EPA environmental engineers are saying about the emission standards"

Emission standards are the rules that limit how much pollution a vehicle is allowed to make. They affect how the car is designed and how it’s tested or monitored.

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particulate matter

"...emission standards and particulate matter and NOx and everything else."

Particulate matter is basically soot particles from burning fuel. Diesel engines need systems to reduce it so they don’t exceed pollution limits.

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aftermarket

"they see a lot of value in working with the aftermarket in a productive way and not just putting these blanket prohibitions down... not treating the aftermarket in general like the enemy"

Aftermarket parts are made by companies other than the car maker. The discussion is basically saying aftermarket options shouldn’t automatically be viewed as bad—some can work well and help with emissions equipment.

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blanket prohibitions

"and not just putting these blanket prohibitions down where you're not allowed to replace an exhaust."

Blanket prohibitions are rules that ban whole categories of changes without making exceptions for good solutions. The point here is that strict blanket rules may slow down progress on emissions fixes.

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OEM catalytic converters

"You must use OEM catalytic converters, for example, in Colorado, they have to be OEM."

OEM parts are the same brand/spec as what came on the vehicle from the factory. Here, the point is that some places may require you to use factory-spec catalytic converters rather than cheaper aftermarket ones.

Car

Toyota Land Cruiser

"Well, my wife had a Land Cruiser, 2006 Land Cruiser. We want to replace the catalytic converters."

The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough, long-lasting SUV. The hosts use it here because replacing catalytic converters on a Land Cruiser can be very expensive if you’re forced to buy OEM parts.

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EGR systems

"after-treatment systems, emission systems, EGR systems, I think is a big step"

EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation. It helps reduce pollution by sending some exhaust gas back into the engine so it burns more cleanly.

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derated

"...okay, I'm not gonna get derated by my DF sensor, but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard..."

Derated means the truck turns down its power. It does this when it detects an emissions problem so you’ll get it fixed.

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DF sensor

"...because I think the first thing someone's gonna think is, okay, I'm not gonna get derated by my DF sensor, but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard..."

That sensor is how the truck checks whether the DEF system is working correctly. If it thinks something’s wrong, the truck can reduce power to push you to fix the emissions system.

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OEMs

"...but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard, what's gonna happen with my EGRs..."

OEMs are the automakers that make the truck and its emissions systems. They’re the ones who have to update the software and hardware to follow the rules.

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regen's

"...what's gonna happen with my EGRs to get more aggressive to my regen's increase? Like that's what the end user is probably gonna be thinking and wondering about."

Regen is the process where the truck cleans out the soot filter. It burns the soot off, usually when the vehicle decides conditions are right.

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DEF system

"Yeah, so theoretically, nothing should change because nothing changed on the DEF system, how it functions, how much it doses, when it doses, everything remains the same."

The DEF system is the whole setup that stores DEF and injects it into the exhaust in the right amount. In this segment, they’re saying the injection behavior stays the same.

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doses

"...because nothing changed on the DEF system, how it functions, how much it doses, when it doses, everything remains the same."

Dosing means how much DEF the truck injects and when. The computer controls it so the exhaust cleaning works properly.

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knock sensors

"...If the knock sensors or something starts giving it feedback that indicate that there may be a quality issue"

Knock sensors listen for signs that the engine is burning fuel in an abnormal way. If the ECU detects that, it can adjust engine operation to protect the engine.

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DEF fluid

"on the DEF fluid, then it would still actually throw [1278.6s] a check engine light, it would get pissed off,"

DEF fluid is a special liquid diesel trucks use to clean up exhaust. If the truck doesn’t have enough DEF or the system thinks something is wrong, it will warn you and may eventually limit how far you can drive. That’s why you’ll see warnings like the check engine light.

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check engine light

"[1278.6s] a check engine light, it would get pissed off, [1280.8s] but it should give you an extended timeframe"

The check engine light means the car’s computer found a problem. On diesel vehicles, it often relates to emissions systems, not just the engine itself. Sometimes the car will still run, but it may limit power or get worse over time.

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boot

"[1306.3s] Yesterday, I gave an example of like a boot coming, [1310.3s] like this is a very common thing,"

Here, “boot” means a rubber connection in the turbo/boost piping. If it tears or leaks, the turbo can’t pressurize the air correctly. That can lead to other problems later, including emissions warnings.

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boost leak

"[1320.0s] And then you hear just like, well, psss, sound, right? [1323.9s] A little boost leak, you're freaking your 10 year old boot"

A boost leak means the turbo’s pressurized air is escaping through a crack or loose connection. The engine doesn’t get the boost it expects, so it can run less efficiently. That inefficiency can also make the exhaust system work harder.

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turbo to the intercooler

"[1326.9s] on the turbo to the intercooler, [1329.7s] maybe that has a small leak in it."

After the turbo compresses air, it usually goes to an intercooler to cool it down before it enters the engine. If there’s a leak in that route, the engine may not get the right amount of air. That can cause performance problems and can also affect emissions.

Part

DPF replacement

"If you can't get it cleaned out, now it's a $4,000 to $6,000 DPF replacement."

A DPF is a filter that catches soot from a diesel exhaust. If it gets too clogged and can’t clean itself, the fix can be replacing the whole filter, and that’s where the big repair cost comes from.

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exhaust system

"it just cost you a $6,000 exhaust system that might be three months back ordered and now your truck can't run."

On a diesel, the exhaust system isn’t just the pipes—it also carries exhaust through the emissions equipment. If something goes wrong, the truck can end up needing major repairs and may not run.

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these pipes stop up

"another thing as well that we tried to demonstrate through was these pipes, when they stop up, it's like putting a potato in the exhaust."

If the exhaust pipes get clogged, exhaust can’t get out the way it should. Even if the engine is trying to push exhaust out, the blockage prevents flow, which can make the truck run badly or fail emissions-related checks.

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intake

"Like everything in between the intake and the exhaust might fail."

The intake is where air goes into the engine. If something in that path is restricted or broken, the turbo can’t deliver the right air pressure.

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back pressure

"if you've got 20 pounds of boost, maybe only 25 pounds of back pressure, now you got 20 pounds of boost and 100 pounds of back pressure."

Back pressure is how hard it is for exhaust gases to get out. If the exhaust system is restricted, pressure builds up and can stress engine parts.

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emissions systems

"it's like when the manufacturers come out and say, well, the exhaust, like the emissions systems themselves are pretty good."

Emissions systems are the parts that clean up exhaust so the vehicle meets pollution rules. They can wear out or get overwhelmed over time, especially if the engine is pushed hard.

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torqued to spec

"I've had a brand new vehicle pop a boot from the manufacturer simply because they didn't have it all the way torqued to spec."

Torqued to spec means the bolts were tightened to the exact tightness the manufacturer calls for. If they’re not, parts can loosen or not seal properly and cause trouble.

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warranty coverage

"because there's a lot of protection that consumers have with regard to warranty issues, right? There is not protection that consumers have with regard to what we call consequential damages."

Warranty coverage is what the manufacturer agrees to pay for when a covered part breaks. The key point here is that warranties often cover the repair itself, but not the extra costs that happen because of the failure.

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consequential damages

"There is not protection that consumers have with regard to what we call consequential damages. And consequential damages are just what they sound like. They're damages that occur as a result of a failure of whatever it may be, okay?"

Consequential damages are costs that happen indirectly because of a failure—beyond the original broken part. In the transcript, the example is that an emissions-system failure can lead to other expensive outcomes (like additional repairs or downtime) that may not be covered even if the failed component itself is under warranty.

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catastrophic drivetrain failure

"it results in a catastrophic emissions component failure whether it's a DPF or whatever, or a catastrophic drivetrain failure, transmission, engine, whatever."

“Catastrophic drivetrain failure” means the vehicle’s main power system breaks in a big way—often involving the transmission or related parts. The point they’re making is that even if the broken part is covered, the extra fallout costs may not be.

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rent a car

"What if you need to rent a car? What if you don't, what if you have the general insurance"

The transcript discusses the need to rent a replacement vehicle when the primary truck is unavailable due to repairs or coverage disputes. It’s used to illustrate how out-of-pocket costs can arise beyond warranty coverage.

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warranty repair

"and you don't get lost productivity time as part of a warranty repair. You don't get lost wages as a warranty repair."

A warranty repair is when the manufacturer pays to fix something on the truck. But warranties often don’t pay for everything around the repair—like lost income or other knock-on expenses.

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lost productivity time

"and you don't get lost productivity time as part of a warranty repair."

“Lost productivity time” refers to the economic impact of a vehicle being unavailable—such as downtime while waiting for repairs. The segment emphasizes that these indirect business impacts may not be covered by standard warranty repairs.

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supplemental insurance

"unless you have supplemental insurance, which costs a lot of money, or you have some kind of a business E&O policy, right?"

Supplemental insurance is extra coverage you buy to protect against costs that your main insurance or warranty won’t pay. It’s often used when you’re worried about gaps like downtime-related losses.

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business E&O policy

"or you have some kind of a business E&O policy, right? And those are really expensive."

An E&O policy is insurance that helps protect a business from certain kinds of mistakes or failures that lead to financial claims. In this context, it’s mentioned as a way to cover losses when a truck issue affects business.

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warranty failures

"it is really important to think about what an OEM might do in order to protect a consumer from these types of warranty failures."

“Warranty failures” are repairs that a manufacturer might refuse to cover. The hosts are saying companies plan for situations where people try to save money in ways that can lead to expensive problems later.

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emission systems

"Like Corey says, the emission systems, especially nowadays, they're pretty good. You're not going to run into too many pattern failures of an emission system that's been on the road for anywhere between 15 and 20 years, right?"

“Emission systems” are the parts on a diesel that help reduce harmful exhaust. The point here is that they usually last a long time, but if you don’t maintain the truck, other problems can show up.

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preemptive maintenance

"who don't have the money to be able to do all the preemptive maintenance or all the preventative maintenance that you might have to do on a work vehicle."

“Preemptive” (preventive) maintenance is proactive service done on a schedule to prevent failures before they happen. The hosts connect it to emissions-system durability and to the reality that some owners/operators can’t afford the upkeep needed to avoid expensive downstream problems.

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preventative maintenance

"...do all the preemptive maintenance or all the preventative maintenance that you might have to do on a work vehicle."

Preventive maintenance is regular care meant to stop problems early. Here, it’s tied to avoiding expensive downtime and knock-on issues.

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deleting ... in advance so that way they never had the problem

"those guys are the guys that would generally delete it in advance so that way they never had the problem."

This is about doing the bypass/removal before anything breaks, instead of waiting until the truck has an emissions problem. Some owners do it to avoid downtime and expensive repairs. But it can still be risky legally and environmentally.

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cost of deleting versus cost of replacement

"at least on the diesel side, on the criminal practice, I would say at least 75% of my sentencing arguments had to do with the cost of deleting versus the cost of replacement."

The speaker is talking about a money decision: do you pay to fix the emissions equipment, or do you remove/bypass it instead. Repairs can be costly, so some people choose the cheaper option. The legal side then considers those costs when arguing sentencing.

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aging fleet operation

"They're deleting because it is the cheapest, easiest way to keep their aging fleet operation. And that is something that you make an argument to a court."

An “aging fleet” means a company’s older trucks. Older vehicles often need more repairs, including emissions parts, so the hosts are discussing cost pressure as part of the decision-making.

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EPA or DOJ

"Is that the change that you guys have both seen is the reception to the EPA or DOJ or just the government in general..."

EPA and DOJ are U.S. government agencies involved in enforcing environmental rules. The discussion here is about how their stance and enforcement priorities affect whether emissions deletes get prosecuted.

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SCR (selective catalytic reduction)

"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain"

SCR is the system that uses DEF to make diesel exhaust cleaner. It’s designed to cut down on nitrogen pollution that comes out of the tailpipe.

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emissions enforcement

"have talked about the changes over the years with enforcement, like with you Stuart, some of the things that have happened Corey... Is there enough time left before late 2027, 2028 to be able to progress this particular part of emissions to a better point?"

Emissions enforcement is how the government checks whether vehicles are meeting pollution rules. If enforcement gets stricter or changes, it can change the risk and consequences for people doing illegal emissions modifications.

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accountability between the administration

"There's like a, what's the word I'm looking for? There's accountability between the administration, and this one will hold this one accountable..."

This refers to a governance/oversight concept where one part of the government is expected to monitor and hold another part responsible for outcomes. In the context of emissions policy, it implies follow-through on regulatory actions and measurable improvements rather than vague promises. For listeners, it’s a reminder that policy enforcement and updates can change over time.

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holding environmental criminals liable

"...And holding environmental criminals liable, having these felonies holding them liable for these huge penalties..."

This means the government can prosecute people for breaking environmental rules, not just issue warnings. With diesel vehicles, it can apply when emissions systems are bypassed or modified to cheat pollution controls.

Concept

buyout

"because they either took the government buyout, the Doge buyout, which happened last year, or they don't agree with the direction of the agency"

A buyout is basically an offer for employees to leave their job and get paid to do so. If key people leave, the agency’s focus and enforcement approach can change.

Concept

environmental enforcement migrating to the states

"So what I've seen is that this very heavy-handed movement is migrating to the states. Washington State just created a new law..."

The speaker is saying enforcement pressure may be moving from the federal government to individual states. That means the risk of getting in trouble for emissions deletes can depend on your state.

Concept

tampering

"...it has to do with tampering and it has to do with emissions. I don't know if it's passed their Congress yet..."

Here, “tampering” means messing with the emissions system on purpose. The concern is that the truck will pollute more than it’s supposed to.

Concept

state legal theory

"...if you want to live in a liberal state like California or Colorado or New York or Washington State, and you do have potential criminal liability under a state legal theory..."

A “state legal theory” is basically how a state argues its case in court using its own laws. So even if federal enforcement slows down, a state might still go after emissions cheating.

Concept

future enforcement

"And so I don't, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful about the prospects of future enforcement ... you do see them backing off a lot of these really extreme policies."

“Future enforcement” here means how aggressively regulators (like the EPA) will pursue violations related to emissions rules and modifications. The speaker suggests enforcement may become less extreme after agencies back off certain policies, which affects how risky DEF-related modifications may be.

Concept

regret in the agency

"because I think that there is a real regret in the agency and with government employees ... you do see them backing off a lot of these really extreme policies."

They’re saying the agency may feel bad about how some past cases were handled. That matters because it could lead to less strict enforcement going forward.

Term

diesel engine

"Common question we get from you guys a lot is, hey, I need a diesel engine. I either, you know, I can't wait this long to get one ... Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it."

They’re discussing getting a diesel engine replacement fast, especially when you can’t wait for shipping or parts availability. They also mention that what you need can change if your truck is modified or if you tow a lot.

Concept

stock vs modified truck

"It just takes too long or I don't, they don't have the parts in it that I need. Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it."

They’re pointing out that if your truck is stock, it’s usually easier to replace parts with factory-compatible options. If it’s modified, you may need a different setup so everything works together.

Concept

towing heavy

"Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it. I don't want to go back with just a stock engine."

Towing heavy means you’re pulling loads regularly, which puts more stress on the truck. That can make it more important to get the right engine and parts so it performs reliably.

Company

DFC Diesel

"DFC Diesel is a sponsor of the podcast. We worked with them hand in hand on doing episodes"

DFC Diesel is a company that sponsors the show. They also help with technical questions, so they’re involved in the diesel repair/remanufacturing world.

Car

Powerstroke

"They have a complete lineup of Cummins Duramax and Powerstroke remanufactured engines"

Powerstroke is Ford’s diesel engine name. The episode is talking about rebuilt Powerstroke engines that are sold with quality testing and a warranty.

Concept

ISO 9001 2015 standards

"that are set to a standard of ISO 9001 2015 standards, which is a huge deal in the aftermarket."

ISO 9001:2015 is a set of rules for how a company runs its quality process. If a remanufacturer follows it, it usually means they have consistent steps and checks so you’re less likely to get a random-quality product.

Concept

quality testing validation

"And there's certain levels of quality testing validation that are required for that."

This phrase means the engine isn’t just rebuilt—it’s also tested to make sure it meets the expected specs. That’s important because it reduces the chance of getting a reman engine that fails early.

Concept

industry leading warranty

"with an industry leading warranty, that's really comprehensive."

A warranty is the company’s guarantee that if something goes wrong, they’ll help cover it. A better warranty usually means the company expects the engine to last.

Concept

OEM engine

"sometimes the options that are out there, it's just, it's a basic OEM engine. You want a little bit more."

OEM means “original equipment manufacturer,” like the engine as it was made for the truck. The hosts are saying some people want more than a basic stock-style replacement.

Concept

core, street, tow haul

"So, there's a bunch of different series of engines that they have from core, street, tow haul,"

These are different versions of rebuilt engines for different driving needs. One might be more basic, another might be tuned or built for normal street use, and another for towing heavy loads.

Concept

speed of air series

"and also the speed of air series, which we've covered on the podcast before."

“Speed of air” sounds like a performance-focused engine option. The idea is usually to help the engine move more air efficiently, which can improve how it pulls and responds.

Part

pistons

"Also, they're working with speed of air pistons, which it's the only piston that pays for itself. And there's a lot of really cool technology behind it."

Pistons are a core internal engine component that convert combustion pressure into crankshaft motion. In diesel performance builds, piston design/materials and friction characteristics can affect efficiency, power output, and how long the engine survives under higher loads.

Concept

fuel economy

"So, you can add that into your build and be able to get better fuel economy, you know, increased power, increased torque, and better engine life out of it."

Fuel economy is basically your “miles per gallon” (or equivalent). They’re saying certain engine upgrades can help the engine use fuel more efficiently.

Concept

lead time

"some of the most common engine applications or series of engines that they have with that lead time, a lot of them are in stock or they have really short lead times."

Lead time is how long you have to wait after you order parts. Short lead times mean you can finish your build faster.

Part

rods

"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."

Rods are the parts that connect the piston to the crankshaft. Stronger rods can help the engine survive when you push it harder.

Part

cranks

"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."

The crankshaft is the main rotating shaft that the engine uses to turn power into motion. Upgraded cranks can help the engine handle more torque safely.

Part

valve train upgrades

"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."

The valve train is what controls the engine’s breathing—when valves open and close. Upgrades can help the engine perform better and last longer when pushed.

Concept

lack of lubricity

"It's something we've talked about a lot on the podcast and specifically ways that it can lead to a lot of costly repairs. And the main reason that we have these issues is a lack of lubricity."

Diesel fuel has to act like a lubricant inside the fuel system. If the fuel doesn’t lubricate well, parts can wear out faster and repairs get expensive.

Company

Hotshot Secrets

"And the main reason that we have these issues is a lack of lubricity. Our friends over at Hotshot Secrets have developed a formula"

Hotshot Secrets is a company that makes products for diesel/fuel. Here they’re credited with a fuel additive/formula intended to help protect the engine.

Term

injectors

"Hotshot's EDT is a 6-in-1 formula, it cleans injectors, boosts C-tane, and it has four times the lubricity as our leading competitor."

Fuel injectors are the parts that spray fuel into the engine. If they get dirty, the engine can run worse and may need expensive repairs, so cleaning them is a big deal.

Term

C-tane

"Hotshot's EDT is a 6-in-1 formula, it cleans injectors, boosts C-tane, and it has four times the lubricity as our leading competitor."

“C-tane” is about making diesel easier to ignite. When ignition is better, the engine can start more smoothly and burn fuel more effectively.

Term

diesel fuel

"So, you don't have to worry about some of those issues that just come with diesel fuel anytime we buy it from the pump."

Diesel fuel quality can change depending on where you buy it and how it’s stored. If the fuel isn’t great, it can cause problems over time, so they’re recommending an additive to help protect the engine.

Company

HotshotSecret.com

"If you go to HotshotSecret.com, use code dieselpod20, it'll get you 20% off your order. We really appreciate the team and our friends over at Hotshot Secrets offering this discount code just for you guys."

HotshotSecret.com is a website that sells products for diesel trucks. Here, they’re advertising a diesel fuel additive and giving listeners a discount code.

Term

federal government

"I think one of the big things maybe to pay attention to of what you just said, Stuart, is in the future it's shifting to the state level... Yeah, it can be vastly different between states and the federal government."

The federal government sets some rules, but states can have different laws or enforcement. So what’s allowed in one place might not be allowed in another.

Concept

criminal to civil

"So, I think the progress that we talked about before, Stuart, with the change from criminal to civil"

“Criminal to civil” means the legal consequences shift from serious criminal prosecution to more administrative or lawsuit-style enforcement. That can change how risky enforcement feels for companies or individuals.

Concept

LCA

"because the EPA... they measure what's called basically LCA. It's cradle to the grave."

LCA means looking at pollution and environmental impact over the whole life of something, not just what comes out of the tailpipe. So a system might reduce exhaust pollution, but the analysis also counts manufacturing and other stages.

Company

NASA

"because the EPA, now NASA, they measure what's called basically LCA."

NASA is brought up as an example of an organization that uses a broader way of measuring environmental impact. The takeaway is that the “rules” for measuring pollution can change the argument.

Term

oil gets diluted

"and we're talking about the engines have a 50% less life span than what they generally have because the oil gets diluted, EG or et cetera, et cetera, all well documented."

Oil dilution is when fuel ends up mixing into the engine oil instead of staying in the combustion process. That makes the oil “thinner” and less able to protect the engine. Over time it can wear the engine out faster.

Concept

manufacturing costs

"But realistically, the cycle had just restarted and we never factored in any of the manufacturing costs. The transport from the ships, the rare earth material extraction..."

This is the idea that the pollution story doesn’t end at the exhaust. Building a vehicle (and replacing it sooner) also creates emissions. So a change that looks good on paper can be less beneficial when you count the full lifecycle.

Term

rare earth material extraction

"The transport from the ships, the rare earth material extraction from other countries that have eight year olds doing this work, et cetera, et cetera."

This is about the mining needed to get certain materials used in modern products. That mining can have big environmental and human-cost impacts. The discussion is saying those costs should be counted when judging whether a change is truly “clean.”

Concept

cradle to the grave

"[2993.1s] But the way it's written is basically, [2994.7s] EPA can't take into account the LCA, the cradle to the grave. [3001.0s] So like the manufacturing costs, the maintenance fees,"

“Cradle to the grave” means looking at the whole life of a product—how it’s made, how it’s used, and what happens to it later. The point here is that the rules being discussed may focus on only part of that lifecycle.

Term

soot

"[3013.6s] So if we say that that soot and NOx and hydrocarbons, [3019.5s] everything else are harming humans, [3020.9s] then it would be the EPA's responsibility to reduce that."

Soot is tiny black particles that can come out of diesel exhaust. It’s harmful to breathe, which is why emissions rules try to reduce it.

Term

hydrocarbons

"[3013.6s] So if we say that that soot and NOx and hydrocarbons, [3019.5s] everything else are harming humans, [3020.9s] then it would be the EPA's responsibility to reduce that."

Hydrocarbons are leftover fuel that didn’t fully burn in the engine. They can contribute to air pollution, so emissions systems try to reduce them.

Term

PM 2.5

"The EPA likes to call it PM 2.5. So if we look at a vehicle and say, well, how much PM 2.5 comes out of it..."

PM 2.5 is tiny soot-like particles in the air. Because they’re so small, they can get deep into your lungs, which is why it’s a big deal for health and regulation.

Concept

wildfire offsetting emissions

"But what they aren't saying is just the wildfire from Canada in 2023... that one wildfire offset all vehicle emissions by 1,200 years. So in the grand scheme of things, are we actually making an impact?"

They’re basically saying wildfires can create way more air pollution than cars do. So the question becomes whether cleaning up vehicle emissions really makes a noticeable difference compared to huge events like wildfire smoke.

Concept

emissions controls on modern engines

"So modern technology, all the things people are scared of, the modern engines take care of all of that. They're already clean enough."

The segment claims modern engines and emissions-control systems are “already clean enough,” referring to the idea that newer diesel technology (and its aftertreatment) reduces regulated pollutants compared with older vehicles. This is a general argument about how emissions systems like catalysts and NOx/PM control hardware change real-world exhaust.

Concept

selective catalytic reduction (SCR)

"... we need to go back to an area that we didn't have these maintenance systems that are designed to fail. ... forcing the emission systems to be there..."

SCR is the main “clean-up” system on many modern diesels that uses DEF to reduce harmful exhaust gases. If you delete DEF, the SCR system can’t clean the exhaust properly.

Concept

emissions penalties

"... that we didn't have these maintenance systems that are designed to fail. They're very expensive and we have to pay shipping and emissions penalties from all over the country..."

“Emissions penalties” are the costs that come from not meeting government pollution rules. If a company or vehicle doesn’t comply, there can be fines or other financial consequences.

Term

two to four miles per gallon fuel penalties

"... we have to pay shipping and emissions penalties from all over the country, along with two to four miles per gallon fuel penalties for vehicle."

A “fuel penalty” means the truck uses more fuel than it otherwise would. The speaker is saying emissions equipment can make the vehicle less efficient by a couple mpg.

Concept

Biden era

"... are still taking advantage of this system when they came in at their heaviest hand of enforcement, which was the Biden era."

“Biden era” here just means the time period when the rules and enforcement were described as being especially tough. It’s being used to explain when the speaker thinks enforcement was at its peak.

Concept

NOx (nitrogen oxides)

"So if even the most good-hearted environmentalists came out... enforce harder..."

NOx is a type of pollution that diesel engines can produce. It’s one of the main things emissions systems are designed to reduce. If DEF systems are deleted or disabled, NOx reduction can fail.

Topic

Tell Me What Happened podcast

"The award-winning Tell Me What Happened podcast from OnStar is back. New emergencies, new heroes."

This part is an ad/promo for a podcast called “Tell Me What Happened.” It doesn’t add car-tech knowledge here—it’s just letting you know the next season is out.

Brand

OnStar

"The award-winning Tell Me What Happened podcast from OnStar is back. New emergencies, new heroes."

OnStar is a service that connects a car to help and information services, and it’s tied to GM. In this clip, they’re just promoting their podcast, not discussing a specific car feature.

Part

DPFs

"...Duramax Forum or Diesel Place or Cummins Forum... like 15 years ago, people would be talking about like the cost of DPFs and catalytic converters and all this stuff."

A DPF is a filter that catches the smoky soot from a diesel engine. If it gets clogged, the truck has to clean it out, and if that doesn’t work, repairs or replacement can get pricey.

Term

emissions testing

"People should be able to meet the standard without spending $20,000 in emissions testing, you know, in California or Detroit. You should be able to do reasonable basis emissions testing."

“Emissions testing” is the process of measuring a vehicle’s exhaust output (like NOx) to confirm it meets legal standards. The segment contrasts extremely expensive testing with more “reasonable basis” approaches, implying a policy debate about how strict and costly compliance should be.

Concept

mandatory car testing

"One of the most ridiculous things of the entire enforcement era was just mandatory car testing. Just absolutely the absolute pinnacle of government inefficiency."

Mandatory car testing means every vehicle has to be checked by the government, often on a regular schedule. The speaker thinks this kind of blanket approach wastes time and money instead of solving the real problem.

Concept

emissions certification testing requirements

"...you have to send your products to one lab in California that's backed up for three years and you have to pay $20,000 to get one tune tested..."

They’re talking about rules that require emissions-related modifications to be tested and approved before they can be sold. The complaint is that the process is slow, costly, and overly restrictive.

Company

FDA

"...or you could do it yourselves like the FDA does for all their drugs, right?"

The FDA is the U.S. agency that regulates food and medicines. The speaker uses it as an example of how testing could be done more flexibly than the current emissions rules.

Term

dyno

"$7,500 bridge tool must sell as a dyno to do our own testing."

A dyno (dynamometer) measures engine output—like horsepower and torque—under controlled conditions. In this context, the speaker argues that if tuners could test on a dyno themselves, it would reduce the cost and delay of getting aftermarket products approved.

Concept

administrative change

"“But for shops that are openly advertising deletes already, what is the potential blowback if there’s an administrative change in the future?”"

An administrative change is basically a change in how the government runs or enforces the rules. It can affect whether certain actions get targeted more or less heavily.

Concept

emissions defeat / illegal emissions modifications

"“If you’re going to advertise deletes right now, you deserve it… you deserve to pay a big fat penalty.”"

“Deletes” in this context usually mean changing the truck’s emissions system so it doesn’t work the way it was designed to. That can be illegal because it can increase pollution.

Term

civil enforcement

"“I’ve gotten probably five new civil enforcement in the last month and a half or two months.”"

Civil enforcement is when the government goes after you with fines and legal penalties, not necessarily criminal charges. Even if it’s “civil,” it can still be very expensive and disruptive.

Concept

criminal liability

"You don't really have to worry about, at least right now, the criminal side coming back... unless something changes with the legislation."

Criminal liability means the government could treat the conduct as a crime, not just a civil violation. The segment warns that this risk may not be gone forever.

Term

Trump administration

"The Trump administration, I've had lots of conversations with people in the Trump administration and the EPA very high up..."

The segment references the Trump administration in relation to EPA enforcement priorities and conversations with officials. It’s used to support the claim that the EPA leadership had little tolerance for emissions tampering.

Term

RFIs

"...and all the RFIs started going out. There's still civil liability."

In this context, RFIs are requests for information used by regulators to investigate compliance and gather evidence. The segment ties them to early enforcement efforts when emissions tampering was more widespread.

Concept

civil liability

"There's still civil liability. There's no guarantee that criminal liability is going to go away forever."

Civil liability means you can still get sued or face penalties even if it’s not treated as a criminal case. In this segment, the point is that “criminal” isn’t the only risk.

Concept

end user liability

"someone asked, could enforcement on owners or the end user become a thing one day?... End user liability is really hard to prove. Most people would say, hey, I just bought this vehicle. It was deleted..."

“End user liability” means the owner of the vehicle could be blamed for the illegal modification. The hosts are saying it’s hard for regulators to prove who did what and to enforce it consistently.

Concept

resource perspective

"Enforcement on end users is just practically impossible from a resource perspective. I hate to say that because I don't want to encourage people to buy or drive deleted vehicles..."

This means regulators may not be able to chase every violation because they don’t have enough people or time. The discussion is that enforcing end-user deletes nationwide would be very difficult.

Concept

Biden administration

"But even under the most oppressive enforcement of the Biden administration, they were not conducting enforcement on end users."

They’re talking about the federal government’s approach under the Biden administration. The claim is that enforcement against owners wasn’t being pursued as aggressively as people feared.

Concept

enforcement action

"I have advised my clients that it's my position that they are not going to get an enforcement action for that anymore, because it's impossible not to work on deleted vehicles. And as long as they're not installing the deletes, they can do the work on the deleted vehicles."

An “enforcement action” is what happens when the government decides someone broke the rules and takes action against them. The point being made is that doing repairs on a deleted truck might be treated differently than installing the delete.

Concept

inspection sticker

"[4045.8s] local enforcement, then whenever you go to actually get an inspection sticker for your vehicle, [4076.1s] got an inspection sticker and a cop pulls you over and your city, your state, you know, takes that seriously"

An inspection sticker is proof that a vehicle has passed the required emissions/safety inspection for its jurisdiction. The transcript frames it like a gatekeeper for legality: pass the test and you’re allowed to drive, fail and you should be treated as not compliant. This is a key enforcement mechanism because it connects emissions compliance to real-world driving.

Concept

Congress and Senate

"[4096.5s] So that's where Congress and Senate, you know, they all got to get involved and do it. But [4101.2s] likewise, 200 signatures to get us there."

Congress and the Senate are referenced as the legislative bodies that would need to change the law to alter how enforcement works. The transcript implies that policy changes affecting emissions compliance and inspection enforcement require formal legislative action. It also mentions “signatures” as part of the process, indicating a political pathway to change.

Concept

ATF

"[4112.8s] Can I ask you a follow-up question, Stuart, with in regards to that? [4117.8s] Is, say if we take the ATF, and there's certain products that have been sold"

ATF is a federal agency that deals with firearms and related public-safety enforcement. In the conversation, they use ATF as an example of how enforcement focus can depend on what an agency is responsible for. It’s an analogy for why emissions enforcement might be handled differently.

Concept

loophole for race vehicles, farm vehicles

"...is there really not a loophole for race vehicles, farm vehicles, et cetera?... A lot of people believe... there's some sort of loophole that exists for a race truck or something that's operating on a farm..."

People often wonder if race cars or farm trucks can legally bypass emissions rules. The point here is that there usually isn’t a clean, safe loophole—so trying to exploit one can still get you in trouble.

Term

mobile source vehicle

"...for a vehicle, for like a mobile source vehicle, like, you know, like our pickups and stuff?..."

“Mobile source vehicle” is a legal/emissions category for vehicles that move and produce exhaust while driving. It’s important because the rules for those vehicles are usually strict and specific.

Term

reverse gear

"...the loophole, though, it can't have a current loophole. If we got on just language, it can't have a reverse gear... race cars and pro mods now have reverse gears..."

They’re saying the “loophole” people talk about might hinge on a technical detail: whether the vehicle has reverse. If today’s race cars have reverse, that old wording may no longer help you.

Company

Borla exhaust

"...anything on the engine or anything that was once certified must have to stay the same way. So whenever I was that's Borla exhaust EPA finding."

Borla makes aftermarket exhaust systems. The mention of an “EPA finding” suggests that exhaust changes aren’t just about sound—EPA rules can affect whether a product is legal or compliant.

Term

EPA finding

"...anything on the engine or anything that was once certified must have to stay the same way. So whenever I was that's Borla exhaust EPA finding."

An “EPA finding” is basically the government saying whether something meets emissions rules. Here it’s being used to show that exhaust or engine modifications can get you in trouble if they don’t comply.

Concept

race vehicle loophole

"...They there's no loophole. Like, look, if you have a genuine race vehicle that you're not driving on the road... the EPA is not going to enforce on you..."

People sometimes think “if it’s a race car, emissions rules don’t apply.” The point here is that the exemption is narrow—if it’s actually being used on public roads or sold for road use, regulators can still go after it.

Concept

emergency vehicles

"...The loopholes that that would be in consideration are, I mean, they are genuine, genuine, like emergency vehicles, true race vehicles, farm equipment..."

Some vehicles used for emergencies can qualify for special rules. The hosts are saying these are real exceptions, not the kind of workaround people usually mean when they talk about “loopholes.”

Concept

farm equipment that is not operational

"...true race vehicles, farm equipment that is not operational that you need to temporarily modify. That stuff is like..."

Some equipment used on farms may have special treatment if it’s not currently operating and needs temporary changes. The key takeaway is that regulators look at real-world use, not just paperwork.

Concept

out of country loophole

"...they're like, well, why don't you just go to Canada and open a company or do this and that?... Realistically, there's people in America that found out the hard way..."

Some people think they can avoid U.S. rules by doing the business from another country. The discussion here says that doesn’t really protect you if the products end up in the U.S. or are tied to U.S. activity.

Concept

civil side

"...they're still hitting that civil side. I'm aware of a couple new cases..."

“Civil side” means the government can go after someone with fines or lawsuits, not necessarily jail or criminal charges. It’s a common way regulators enforce emissions rules.

Concept

dual illegality

"...they because in if we're talking about Canada, for example, there's a lot of Canadian companies, there there has to be what's called dual illegality. So it has to be illegal in Canada and in the US..."

“Dual illegality” is basically the idea that the same act has to be illegal in both places. If it’s not illegal where the person/company is located, it can be harder to take certain legal steps.

Concept

federalized delete rule

"...Canadian parliament is supposed to be making a federalized delete rule. So... it's supposed to be coming out within the next like year..."

This means Canada may make a single national rule about whether DEF deletes are allowed. That would close gaps where deletes might be legal in one region but not another.

Concept

extradition

"...because there's not it's not illegal in both places. So there's no extradition. And there's no other material impact besides what they're selling..."

Extradition is when one country hands someone over to another country for prosecution. If the conduct isn’t illegal in both places, extradition may not be possible.

Concept

EPA legalize

"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain ... We appreciate all your support here in your 10 of the diesel podcast."

This is about whether the EPA allows certain emissions changes. If you mess with emissions equipment, you can face legal trouble, so it’s important to know what’s actually permitted.

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