Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain
About this episode
EPA guidance on DEF urea quality sensors (UQS) is framed as potentially reducing derate events, but the guests argue it doesn’t equal legal “DEF delete” freedom. Lawyer Stuart explains the EPA issued March 26 guidance and intends formal rulemaking to stop mandating unreliable UQS sensors, relying more on NOx sensors instead. Corey Willis (tuning/engineering) says real-world impact is limited: ECU modeling, possible check-engine behavior, and no clear aftermarket path. They also debate enforcement trends, consequential damages, state-level shifts, and why “loopholes” for race/ag use are narrow and risky.
DEF deletes
"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain"
“DEF deletes” means bypassing or removing the system that uses a special fluid to clean diesel exhaust. It can reduce costs or change performance, but it can also make the truck illegal to operate on public roads depending on where you live.
“DEF deletes” refers to removing or disabling the diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) system that feeds DEF into the exhaust to reduce nitrogen oxides (NOx). This is often discussed in the context of emissions compliance and legal risk, since the system is designed to meet EPA/state regulations.
emissions compliance (legal perspective)
"...so we could cover the legal perspective of some of the emissions, DF stuff with trucks."
They’re talking about whether changing emissions systems on trucks is allowed by law. The rules can vary, and the truck may still need to meet emissions testing requirements.
The hosts are framing the discussion around whether certain emissions-related modifications are legal. In practice, legality can depend on EPA/CARB rules, how the modification affects emissions equipment, and whether the vehicle can pass required inspections.
trucks derating
"...the issue with trucks derating and it affecting trucks, equipment, farm equipment."
Derating means the truck automatically makes less power. It usually happens when the emissions system senses a problem, and the truck limits performance to avoid damage or to stay within emissions limits.
Derating is when an engine’s power is intentionally limited by the vehicle’s control system, usually to protect emissions equipment or because an emissions-related fault is detected. In diesel applications, derating can happen when DEF/aftertreatment components or sensors indicate a problem, reducing performance until the issue is corrected.
EPA guidance
"So on March 26th, the EPA issued guidance on deaf sensors specifically... And what this guidance seeks to address is quality problems and failures with what are called the UQS."
EPA guidance is the government’s official clarification about how a rule should be followed. Here, it’s about how certain emissions monitoring/sensor setups are treated under the rules.
EPA guidance is an official interpretation or policy direction from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency about how regulations should be applied. In this case, the guidance addresses emissions-related sensor/monitoring approaches and quality problems tied to specific monitoring components.
deaf sensors
"So on March 26th, the EPA issued guidance on deaf sensors specifically. It's called a deaf quality monitoring using alternate sensor technology."
“Deaf sensors” is a term people use when they try to stop the truck’s emissions system from reacting normally to what the sensors report. The EPA guidance mentioned here is about how sensors are handled and what’s allowed.
“Deaf sensors” refers to sensor-related strategies intended to prevent or alter how the emissions system interprets sensor readings—often discussed in the context of DEF/aftertreatment compliance. In this segment, the EPA guidance is specifically about sensors and alternate sensor technology, which is why the term comes up.
Urea quality sensors (UQS)
"But the UQS are the Urea quality sensors... they're famously unreliable for diesel vehicles... determine what the quality of the Urea is that's actually going to the SCR system."
These sensors check whether the DEF you’re using is “good enough” for the system to treat exhaust correctly. If the sensor can’t trust what it’s seeing, the truck may limit power so it can’t run in a way that would pollute more.
Urea quality sensors (UQS) measure the quality/condition of the diesel exhaust fluid (DEF/urea) so the vehicle can dose it correctly into the exhaust. If the sensor can’t read the urea accurately, the aftertreatment system may not dose properly and the truck can enter a restricted mode.
SCR system
"...determine what the quality of the Urea is that's actually going to the SCR system... when a UQS sensor fails, what happens is that it derates the vehicle..."
SCR is the part of a modern diesel that cleans up exhaust. It injects a special fluid (DEF) into the exhaust so the engine can meet emissions rules.
SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) is the emissions system that uses DEF/urea injected into the exhaust to convert nitrogen oxides (NOx) into less harmful compounds. Correct DEF dosing is critical; sensor inputs like UQS help the system decide how much DEF to inject.
derates the vehicle
"Because when a UQS sensor fails, what happens is that it derates the vehicle and then whoever is driving that vehicle is stuck doing whatever they're doing..."
A derate means the truck won’t make full power anymore. It’s like the computer putting the engine into a “limited” mode because something in the emissions system isn’t working right.
A derate is when the vehicle’s engine power is intentionally limited by the engine/emissions control system, usually to protect emissions compliance when a fault is detected. In DEF/aftertreatment systems, sensor failures can trigger derating to prevent operation that would exceed emissions limits.
NOx sensors
"So you have your NOx sensors, which actually keep track of the NOx that is emitted by diesel vehicles and then you have the UQS."
NOx sensors are sensors in the exhaust that detect harmful exhaust gases from diesel engines. They help the car figure out how much pollution is coming out so it can reduce it.
NOx sensors measure nitrogen oxides (NOx) in a diesel’s exhaust. They help the emissions system determine how much NOx is being produced so the vehicle can control it to meet regulations.
EPA issues guidance
"We're gonna issue guidance saying there is a problem with these. So the way that it works legally is the EPA issues guidance on what they're gonna do and then they seek to create what's called a proposed rule."
EPA guidance is the agency’s explanation of how it plans to handle a regulation. It can signal what changes are coming, even before the final rules are written.
EPA guidance is non-binding direction that explains how the agency intends to interpret or apply regulations. In this segment, it’s described as the EPA acknowledging a problem with a required emissions component before moving toward rulemaking.
proposed rule
"and then they seek to create what's called a proposed rule. And I know a lot of times on the podcast we've talked about formal rulemaking, informal rulemaking."
A proposed rule is the EPA’s “draft plan” for changing regulations. It usually comes before the final decision, after the agency lays out the reasoning and process.
A proposed rule is the EPA’s formal draft regulation that explains what they want to change and why. It’s part of the rulemaking process before a final rule is adopted.
formal rulemaking vs informal rulemaking
"I know a lot of times on the podcast we've talked about formal rulemaking, informal rulemaking. You know, the EPA is a governmental administrative agency has the authority to create formal rules where they're interpreting the law."
Rulemaking is how government agencies write new rules. The hosts are saying there are different legal “process types,” and the EPA can use them to change how requirements are enforced.
Formal vs informal rulemaking describes different legal procedures agencies use when creating regulations. The segment suggests the EPA can use these processes to interpret and enforce requirements under existing law.
Clean Air Act
"And in this case, the law, as we know, is the Clean Air Act. And when they are interpreting this specific requirement for the Clean Air Act, they want to make a rule that says that they are no longer going to mandate the UQS"
The Clean Air Act is a major U.S. law that sets rules for limiting air pollution. Here, the EPA is using that law to decide whether certain emissions requirements (like sensor mandates) should change.
The Clean Air Act is the main U.S. federal law that regulates air pollution. In this segment, the EPA is described as interpreting how the Act’s requirements apply to emissions equipment like sensors.
EPA enforcement vs formal rulemaking
"The formal rule, which is closer to a law, it's not actually legislation that goes through Congress... The EPA intends to issue a formal rule related to the UQS sensors soon. There's no defined timeline."
They’re explaining that EPA actions don’t always come as a brand-new law passed by Congress. Sometimes EPA issues guidance or rules, and enforcement can still depend on what the agency decides to treat as a violation.
The segment distinguishes between formal legislation passed by Congress and EPA rulemaking/guidance that can still be treated like a law in practice. It also highlights that enforcement timing and scope can differ from when rules are proposed or intended to be issued.
UQS sensors
"The EPA intends to issue a formal rule related to the UQS sensors soon. There's no defined timeline."
UQS sensors are sensors that help the car/truck confirm its emissions system is working as intended. If someone deletes or changes them, it can make the vehicle fail emissions rules and may cause trouble.
UQS sensors are part of the diesel emissions monitoring used to verify that the SCR/DEF system is operating correctly. If they’re removed or altered, regulators may view it as tampering with emissions controls, which can affect compliance and enforcement.
diesel truck
"what does it mean for someone who's got a diesel truck right now and they've just heard about this?"
They’re talking about diesel trucks that use an emissions system to keep exhaust cleaner. If you change or remove parts of that system, it can affect both legality and how the truck runs.
The segment is focused on what DEF-related changes mean for owners of modern diesel trucks. These trucks typically rely on emissions systems (like SCR/DEF) to meet legal NOx limits, so changes can have legal and technical consequences.
SBA
"Well, we actually had a meeting with EPA and SBA and some others yesterday on this topic ..."
SBA is mentioned as another group that was in the meeting with the EPA. The excerpt doesn’t clearly explain what SBA stands for here, but it’s being treated like a stakeholder in the discussion. The key point is that multiple agencies/groups were involved.
SBA is referenced alongside the EPA in the context of meetings about diesel emissions/DEF deletes. Without additional context in the excerpt, it’s unclear which SBA the hosts mean, but it’s treated as a stakeholder in the regulatory or compliance discussion. The mention is mainly about who was involved in the meeting.
ECU
"... they're basically gonna create a model in the ECU, kind of like they did during COVID whenever they couldn't get sensors ..."
The ECU is the truck’s main computer. It uses sensor readings to decide what to do—like how much to inject or how to control emissions. Here, they’re talking about the computer using a “best guess” model when certain sensor data isn’t available.
ECU (Engine Control Unit) is the vehicle’s computer that monitors sensors and controls emissions and drivability strategies. In this discussion, the OEM is said to create a modeled substitute strategy in the ECU when sensors are unavailable or unreliable. That model assumes other emissions components (including NOx sensors) are functioning correctly.
Cummins
"... whenever they couldn't get sensors, if you recall that, and Cummins dealt with all that later on, right?"
Cummins is a major diesel engine manufacturer, and the segment references how Cummins handled sensor supply issues during COVID. The context implies Cummins later implemented strategies to manage emissions controls when sensors were unavailable or unreliable. This is relevant because the episode is about how OEMs respond to DEF/NOx sensor-related compliance challenges.
D-Rate system
"And if we don't have a D-Rate system in place, then the vehicle might throw a code."
A D-Rate system is an emissions-related derate strategy used by some diesel manufacturers to reduce engine power when emissions faults are detected. The segment suggests that if the D-Rate system isn’t in place, the vehicle might throw a code instead of managing the fault via derating. This is part of how manufacturers keep compliance while handling sensor or emissions-system issues.
diesel exhaust fluid
"...not pay the expensive fee for the diesel exhaust fluid that you put in your trucks."
DEF is a special liquid you add to many newer diesel trucks. The truck uses it to clean up exhaust, so it can meet emissions rules.
Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) is a urea-based liquid injected into a diesel exhaust system to reduce harmful emissions. It’s used by modern diesel trucks with aftertreatment systems to help meet EPA requirements.
Toyota A90
"Okay, that's fine, but at the same time, if that's a 90% failure item on the DEF system, so to speak, but we have an 88% failure item right behind it"
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made for fast driving and sporty handling. The podcast mention about “DEF” is about a system some diesel cars use to reduce pollution, and they’re talking about how often parts of that system might fail. If you own one, that can affect how expensive repairs are.
The Toyota Supra is a sports coupe known for its performance-focused design and strong enthusiast following. In a diesel-related discussion, it may come up because modern diesel emissions systems use components like DEF (diesel exhaust fluid), and the podcast is likely comparing how often certain emissions-related parts fail. That kind of “failure item” talk matters to owners because it affects repair costs and downtime.
no guidance
"And the big thing is, is there is no guidance. So we reached out to EPA, we're waiting on them to get back with us."
They’re saying the EPA hasn’t given clear rules yet. Without clear answers, it’s hard to know what will be considered legal or compliant.
“No guidance” here refers to the lack of clear regulatory direction from the EPA on how DEF-delete-related enforcement should be handled. When agencies don’t provide specifics, owners and shops can’t reliably predict what’s allowed or how compliance will be evaluated.
temporarily disable these systems
"you notice where they said that you can use any tool, any system to basically override and temporarily disable these systems ... The key word in there was they said any tools and it's a temporary override."
They’re talking about whether you can turn emissions equipment off for a short time. The key point is that it’s supposed to be temporary, not a permanent removal of the system.
The transcript distinguishes between a permanent “delete” and an allowed temporary override of emissions controls. That matters because regulators may permit limited, time-bounded exceptions (e.g., for specific operating contexts) while still requiring the system to function normally otherwise.
override
"you notice where they said that you can use any tool, any system to basically override and temporarily disable these systems so that way they can still work."
An override is a way to force the emissions system to behave differently than it normally would. Whether it’s allowed depends on how it’s done and whether it’s meant to be temporary.
An “override” in this context means using an external method to bypass or control how emissions systems behave. In practice, overrides can be implemented via software, calibration changes, or specialized hardware, and regulators focus heavily on whether the override is temporary, documented, and compliant.
mobile source side of things
"but that is not the same provision we're working with right now on the mobile source side of things. Cause they're just saying we basically just, we're gonna create a new model for the UQS"
“Mobile source” just means vehicle emissions. They’re saying the rules/allowances for vehicles may be different from the rules for agriculture or other categories.
“Mobile source” refers to emissions from vehicles (as opposed to stationary sources like factories). The transcript contrasts agriculture-related allowances with what’s being discussed for mobile sources, implying different regulatory pathways and constraints.
next administration comes in undoes this
"This stuff has to get really, really tight and before even OEMs jump on to it. Cause like Stuart said before, the next administration comes in undoes this."
This highlights how regulatory enforcement and policy can change with political leadership. For emissions-related modifications, that means today’s “legal” interpretation may not remain stable, affecting long-term legality and compliance strategy.
emissions compliance feedback loop (administration talking to the field)
"I mean, they're actually talking to people out in the field like, you know, it's like, like Stuart, like us, we never had a voice before, where now they're doing things and they can get feedback and we were able to give them feedback as to what the public perception is"
They’re talking about regulators getting input from people who deal with these trucks every day. That helps them understand what’s actually happening and adjust the approach.
This describes a regulatory feedback process where the EPA/administration consults real-world operators and technicians to understand how rules affect vehicles in practice. That “field feedback” can influence how enforcement, guidance, or technical pathways are shaped for emissions systems.
after-treatment
"One thing for sure is that the administration wants to tackle the whole after-treatment issue. It's just, how do you get there? And how can you unravel things in such a way that gives people a little bit of relief?"
After-treatment is the part of a diesel that cleans the exhaust after the engine makes it. If it detects a problem, the truck may reduce power to stay within emissions rules.
After-treatment refers to the emissions-control hardware downstream of the engine—like SCR and related components—that cleans exhaust before it leaves the tailpipe. In modern diesels, after-treatment is tightly integrated with sensors and control logic, so faults can trigger de-rating.
DEF sensor
"...and the exhaust may be stuffed as a potato and the level sensor stuck on the DEF sensor"
The DEF sensor monitors conditions related to the diesel exhaust fluid system, such as fluid level and/or quality, so the vehicle can dose DEF correctly. If the sensor is stuck or inaccurate, the truck may think DEF isn’t available and trigger de-rating or other protective behavior.
endangerment finding
"then whole endangerment, finding things coming to the head... and what is that... about Monday or Tuesday next week?"
An “endangerment finding” is basically a government conclusion that certain pollution is dangerous. The important nuance here is that the finding for climate pollution doesn’t automatically decide everything about other types of exhaust pollution.
An “endangerment finding” is a legal/regulatory determination that certain emissions are harmful enough to justify emissions rules. In the transcript, it’s tied to greenhouse gases, and the hosts note that greenhouse-gas findings don’t necessarily map 1:1 to other regulated pollutants.
greenhouse gases
"once we can establish, like the endangerment finding, that's for greenhouse gases, which doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the criteria pollutants..."
Greenhouse gases are the emissions that contribute to climate change. The key point is that rules for climate pollution can be separate from rules for other types of air pollution.
Greenhouse gases (GHGs) are emissions that trap heat in the atmosphere, and they’re regulated separately from “criteria pollutants” like smog-forming or particulate-related pollutants. The transcript highlights that a greenhouse-gas endangerment finding may not directly determine rules for criteria pollutants.
criteria pollutants
"that's for greenhouse gases, which doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the criteria pollutants, but what is very important is the way"
Criteria pollutants are the main types of dirty air emissions regulators focus on for health reasons. The transcript is saying that climate-related findings don’t automatically settle how these other pollutants are regulated.
“Criteria pollutants” are a set of common air pollutants regulated because they’re linked to health and environmental effects (e.g., smog and particulates). The hosts emphasize that greenhouse-gas decisions don’t automatically control how these criteria pollutants are handled.
emissions and meet current standards
"Can we delete a vehicle right now? Can we remove the emissions and meet current standards? The answer is no."
This is about regulatory compliance: whether a vehicle can be modified (or emissions equipment removed) while still meeting the emissions limits required by law. In practice, if the OEMs and certification process can’t achieve the required standards, it affects what’s legally and technically feasible for aftermarket changes.
going all electric
"the manufacturers basically said, well, we can't meet that, so we're going all electric."
The speaker is saying that if diesel emissions rules get too hard to meet, companies may decide to focus on electric vehicles instead.
The transcript claims manufacturers responded to stricter emissions standards by planning to shift toward battery-electric vehicles (“going all electric”). This is a broader regulatory strategy idea: when compliance is too costly or technically difficult, companies may accelerate electrification.
current tier is too high
"And the reality is, is the benchmark of emissions right now, the current tier is too high for the manufacturers to hit."
A “tier” is like an emissions difficulty level set by regulators. If it’s “too high,” it means the rules are stricter than manufacturers can realistically meet right now.
“Tier” refers to a specific level of emissions regulation (a set of NOx/PM limits and certification requirements). Saying the current tier is “too high” implies manufacturers can’t engineer and certify vehicles to meet those limits under real-world constraints.
go back to something a little bit more reasonable
"So we have to go back to something a little bit more reasonable."
This is about changing the emissions rules to be less strict. If the rules get easier, manufacturers may be able to comply without needing as aggressive technology.
This is a policy/standards concept: when emissions targets are adjusted downward or made more achievable, it can change what technologies are required (and what compliance pathways exist). The speaker frames it as moving to less stringent limits because the current ones are not achievable.
calibration
"[855.8s] It's not like it has no emission system in the calibration. [859.1s] The calibration's even done in a way [861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier."
Calibration is the car computer’s settings for how it runs and how it manages emissions equipment. Changing calibration can change how clean the exhaust is and whether the car passes emissions rules.
In this context, “calibration” means the vehicle’s software settings that control how emissions systems operate and how the engine manages combustion. Tuning/calibration can be used to target compliance with specific emissions standards, but it can also be used to defeat emissions controls.
2007 vs 2012 emissions standards
"[861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier. [865.9s] But the vehicle's so clean on modern technology [868.1s] that it's actually surpassing 2012 standards, [871.5s] where the vehicles were in 2012."
They’re comparing older and newer emissions rules. Even if a diesel is cleaner than older limits, passing today’s inspection depends on what the car is actually doing and how it’s tested.
The discussion contrasts emissions standards across model years/eras (2007 vs 2012), highlighting how regulatory thresholds change. It also implies that modern diesel tech can reduce pollutants, but compliance depends on both the hardware and how the vehicle is calibrated and tested.
emissions to 2007 levels
"[859.1s] The calibration's even done in a way [861.0s] that it would meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier. [865.9s] But the vehicle's so clean on modern technology"
They’re talking about making the car’s emissions match older legal limits. Since rules get stricter over the years, meeting an older standard doesn’t always mean the car is compliant with today’s requirements.
“Meet emissions to 2007 levels or earlier” refers to targeting older regulatory limits through software and/or hardware changes. This matters because emissions standards tighten over time, so a vehicle may be engineered to appear compliant under one era’s rules while still being noncompliant under newer ones.
smog testing
"[873.0s] And that's with a modern vehicle without aftertreatment. [875.4s] And it's also convenient because they pass smog testing. [878.8s] So you'd be able to go to your local place, get smogged. [881.4s] None of us want a dirty vehicle or smelly vehicle on the road. ... [900.0s] If you pass smog, press go."
Smog testing is the official check to make sure your car isn’t polluting too much. On newer cars, the test can also look at whether the car’s emissions systems have been properly checked by the computer.
Smog testing is a regulatory emissions inspection that verifies a vehicle meets local air-quality standards. For modern diesels, results can depend not only on tailpipe emissions but also on OBD/OBD readiness monitor status.
readiness monitors
"[884.3s] So it'll pass smog and everything without emissions, [886.7s] even on a current vehicle. [887.9s] You just won't pass the readiness monitors. [890.2s] So that's something the administration would have to look at."
Readiness monitors are like the car’s self-check results for emissions systems. If the car hasn’t run (or can’t complete) those checks, the inspection computer may reject it even if it seems to be running normally.
Readiness monitors are onboard diagnostics (OBD) test flags that indicate whether key emissions-related systems have been checked and are functioning. Even if a vehicle’s tailpipe emissions look okay, failing readiness monitors can cause it to fail smog/inspection.
consent decrees
"Many, many of the consent decrees that we did earlier on,"
Consent decrees are court-approved agreements that require certain rules to be followed. In emissions cases, they can strongly influence what changes are allowed to a vehicle’s emissions systems.
Consent decrees are legally binding agreements between regulators and companies (or parties) that set specific compliance requirements and enforcement terms. In emissions enforcement discussions, they often shape what aftermarket modifications are allowed and how regulators view tampering with emissions-related systems.
OBD
"they don't want you to even be able to touch or modify the OBD, which is ridiculous."
OBD is the car’s self-check system for emissions and other important parts. If you change things that affect how the car reports emissions data, it can cause legal trouble and may also affect inspections.
OBD (On-Board Diagnostics) is the vehicle’s built-in system that monitors emissions-related components and stores diagnostic trouble codes. Many modern diesel and gas vehicles also use OBD access for emissions testing and enforcement, so modifying or “touching” it can raise legal and compliance issues.
tuner
"You can go out and you can buy a tuner for a gas vehicle."
A tuner is a device that changes how the car’s computer runs the engine. It can make the car feel stronger, but it can also interfere with emissions systems and what the car reports during inspections.
A tuner is an aftermarket device that reprograms the engine control unit (ECU) to change fueling, boost, shift behavior, or emissions-related parameters. In the diesel world, tuners are often discussed alongside emissions equipment and OBD access because they can alter how the vehicle operates and reports diagnostic information.
chip
"You can go out and you can buy a chip for pretty much any vehicle on the road."
A chip is a way to change the car’s computer settings. It can change performance, but it may also affect emissions controls and inspection results.
A “chip” in this context usually refers to an aftermarket ECU modification or replacement that changes calibration—how much fuel is injected, timing, and other control strategies. Like tuners, chips can be used to increase performance, but they can also impact emissions compliance depending on what they change.
emission standards
"you're listening to what EPA environmental engineers are saying about the emission standards"
Emission standards are the rules that limit how much pollution a vehicle is allowed to make. They affect how the car is designed and how it’s tested or monitored.
Emission standards are government limits on pollutants that vehicles are allowed to produce, enforced through testing and onboard monitoring. For diesel engines, these standards drive requirements around fuel delivery, exhaust aftertreatment, and how the vehicle reports emissions data.
particulate matter
"...emission standards and particulate matter and NOx and everything else."
Particulate matter is basically soot particles from burning fuel. Diesel engines need systems to reduce it so they don’t exceed pollution limits.
Particulate matter (PM) refers to tiny soot and dust particles produced by combustion, especially in diesel engines. Emissions systems and calibrations are designed to reduce PM so the vehicle stays within regulatory limits.
aftermarket
"they see a lot of value in working with the aftermarket in a productive way and not just putting these blanket prohibitions down... not treating the aftermarket in general like the enemy"
Aftermarket parts are made by companies other than the car maker. The discussion is basically saying aftermarket options shouldn’t automatically be viewed as bad—some can work well and help with emissions equipment.
The “aftermarket” refers to parts made by companies other than the vehicle’s original manufacturer. The hosts argue that treating the aftermarket as an enemy is counterproductive, and that aftermarket solutions can support emissions-related systems when done correctly.
blanket prohibitions
"and not just putting these blanket prohibitions down where you're not allowed to replace an exhaust."
Blanket prohibitions are rules that ban whole categories of changes without making exceptions for good solutions. The point here is that strict blanket rules may slow down progress on emissions fixes.
“Blanket prohibitions” refers to broad, one-size-fits-all rules that restrict modifications without considering whether an alternative solution meets emissions requirements. The hosts argue that overly broad bans can block legitimate, technically sound aftermarket or engineering improvements.
OEM catalytic converters
"You must use OEM catalytic converters, for example, in Colorado, they have to be OEM."
OEM parts are the same brand/spec as what came on the vehicle from the factory. Here, the point is that some places may require you to use factory-spec catalytic converters rather than cheaper aftermarket ones.
“OEM” means Original Equipment Manufacturer parts—components made to match what the vehicle’s manufacturer specified. In this context, the discussion is about rules requiring OEM catalytic converters instead of aftermarket replacements.
Toyota Land Cruiser
"Well, my wife had a Land Cruiser, 2006 Land Cruiser. We want to replace the catalytic converters."
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough, long-lasting SUV. The hosts use it here because replacing catalytic converters on a Land Cruiser can be very expensive if you’re forced to buy OEM parts.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a long-running, body-on-frame SUV known for durability and strong parts availability. In the segment, it’s used as a real-world example of how catalytic converter replacement costs can be dramatically different between OEM and aftermarket options.
EGR systems
"after-treatment systems, emission systems, EGR systems, I think is a big step"
EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation. It helps reduce pollution by sending some exhaust gas back into the engine so it burns more cleanly.
EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation, a system that routes a portion of exhaust gas back into the engine to reduce combustion temperatures and lower certain emissions like NOx. The segment groups EGR with other emissions systems as areas where policy could allow better collaboration and progress.
derated
"...okay, I'm not gonna get derated by my DF sensor, but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard..."
Derated means the truck turns down its power. It does this when it detects an emissions problem so you’ll get it fixed.
Derating is when the engine control system intentionally limits performance—often reduced power and/or torque—because an emissions-related fault is detected. It’s designed to keep the vehicle compliant and to motivate maintenance of the emissions system.
DF sensor
"...because I think the first thing someone's gonna think is, okay, I'm not gonna get derated by my DF sensor, but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard..."
That sensor is how the truck checks whether the DEF system is working correctly. If it thinks something’s wrong, the truck can reduce power to push you to fix the emissions system.
A DF sensor (diesel fluid/DEF-related sensor) is used by the vehicle to monitor the DEF system’s status and/or fluid quality. If the sensor detects problems, the engine may limit power (derate) to encourage repair and emissions compliance.
OEMs
"...but in order for the OEMs to meet this standard, what's gonna happen with my EGRs..."
OEMs are the automakers that make the truck and its emissions systems. They’re the ones who have to update the software and hardware to follow the rules.
OEMs are Original Equipment Manufacturers—the companies that build the vehicles and design the emissions systems and calibrations. In this discussion, OEMs are adjusting how the DEF system is evaluated to meet regulatory requirements.
regen's
"...what's gonna happen with my EGRs to get more aggressive to my regen's increase? Like that's what the end user is probably gonna be thinking and wondering about."
Regen is the process where the truck cleans out the soot filter. It burns the soot off, usually when the vehicle decides conditions are right.
“Regen” refers to regeneration of the diesel particulate filter (DPF), where trapped soot is burned off at high temperature. Changes in emissions calibration can affect how often and how aggressively regeneration occurs.
DEF system
"Yeah, so theoretically, nothing should change because nothing changed on the DEF system, how it functions, how much it doses, when it doses, everything remains the same."
The DEF system is the whole setup that stores DEF and injects it into the exhaust in the right amount. In this segment, they’re saying the injection behavior stays the same.
The DEF system includes the fluid tank, dosing pump/injector, sensors, and the control logic that meters DEF into the exhaust. The key point here is that the system’s dosing behavior is described as unchanged, while the way DEF quality is measured/assumed is what’s being altered.
doses
"...because nothing changed on the DEF system, how it functions, how much it doses, when it doses, everything remains the same."
Dosing means how much DEF the truck injects and when. The computer controls it so the exhaust cleaning works properly.
“Dosing” is the controlled injection of DEF into the exhaust. The ECU meters DEF based on operating conditions to achieve the right chemical reaction for NOx reduction.
knock sensors
"...If the knock sensors or something starts giving it feedback that indicate that there may be a quality issue"
Knock sensors listen for signs that the engine is burning fuel in an abnormal way. If the ECU detects that, it can adjust engine operation to protect the engine.
Knock sensors detect abnormal combustion events (knock/detonation) by measuring vibration or pressure signals. The ECU can use this feedback to adjust engine timing and fueling, and in this discussion it’s referenced as a possible indicator of a DEF-quality-related issue.
DEF fluid
"on the DEF fluid, then it would still actually throw [1278.6s] a check engine light, it would get pissed off,"
DEF fluid is a special liquid diesel trucks use to clean up exhaust. If the truck doesn’t have enough DEF or the system thinks something is wrong, it will warn you and may eventually limit how far you can drive. That’s why you’ll see warnings like the check engine light.
DEF fluid (diesel exhaust fluid) is used in modern diesel engines to reduce NOx emissions. It’s injected into the exhaust system where it helps convert harmful gases into less harmful compounds. When DEF isn’t available or the system detects issues, the vehicle can limit operation and warn the driver.
check engine light
"[1278.6s] a check engine light, it would get pissed off, [1280.8s] but it should give you an extended timeframe"
The check engine light means the car’s computer found a problem. On diesel vehicles, it often relates to emissions systems, not just the engine itself. Sometimes the car will still run, but it may limit power or get worse over time.
The check engine light is the driver-facing warning that the engine or emissions control system has detected a fault. In diesel emissions systems, it can be triggered by issues like DEF supply problems, sensor faults, or exhaust aftertreatment problems. Depending on severity, the vehicle may also enter a reduced-power or “no-start” protection strategy.
boot
"[1306.3s] Yesterday, I gave an example of like a boot coming, [1310.3s] like this is a very common thing,"
Here, “boot” means a rubber connection in the turbo/boost piping. If it tears or leaks, the turbo can’t pressurize the air correctly. That can lead to other problems later, including emissions warnings.
In this context, a “boot” is a flexible rubber coupling (often on turbo plumbing) that connects sections of the intake/boost system. If a boot cracks or separates, it can cause a boost leak, reducing efficiency and potentially contributing to exhaust aftertreatment issues. Because it’s common and can be small, the symptoms may start subtle before emissions components get overwhelmed.
boost leak
"[1320.0s] And then you hear just like, well, psss, sound, right? [1323.9s] A little boost leak, you're freaking your 10 year old boot"
A boost leak means the turbo’s pressurized air is escaping through a crack or loose connection. The engine doesn’t get the boost it expects, so it can run less efficiently. That inefficiency can also make the exhaust system work harder.
A boost leak is an air leak in the turbocharged intake/charge-air system, where pressurized air escapes before reaching the engine. This can reduce engine performance and upset the expected air-fuel and emissions control conditions. Persistent boost leaks can contribute to downstream issues, including faster soot loading on the DPF.
turbo to the intercooler
"[1326.9s] on the turbo to the intercooler, [1329.7s] maybe that has a small leak in it."
After the turbo compresses air, it usually goes to an intercooler to cool it down before it enters the engine. If there’s a leak in that route, the engine may not get the right amount of air. That can cause performance problems and can also affect emissions.
The turbo-to-intercooler path is the charge-air route where compressed air flows from the turbo into the intercooler to be cooled before entering the engine. Leaks or failures in this plumbing can cause boost loss and incorrect operating conditions. Cooling and correct airflow are important because they influence combustion and emissions behavior.
DPF replacement
"If you can't get it cleaned out, now it's a $4,000 to $6,000 DPF replacement."
A DPF is a filter that catches soot from a diesel exhaust. If it gets too clogged and can’t clean itself, the fix can be replacing the whole filter, and that’s where the big repair cost comes from.
DPF stands for diesel particulate filter, and it traps soot from a diesel engine’s exhaust. When it can’t be cleaned or regenerated, the repair often becomes a full DPF replacement, which can be very expensive.
exhaust system
"it just cost you a $6,000 exhaust system that might be three months back ordered and now your truck can't run."
On a diesel, the exhaust system isn’t just the pipes—it also carries exhaust through the emissions equipment. If something goes wrong, the truck can end up needing major repairs and may not run.
The exhaust system on a diesel includes the aftertreatment hardware and the piping that routes exhaust through it. The transcript’s scenario shows how a small failure (like a disconnected component) can lead to a much larger exhaust/aftertreatment repair and even immobilization.
these pipes stop up
"another thing as well that we tried to demonstrate through was these pipes, when they stop up, it's like putting a potato in the exhaust."
If the exhaust pipes get clogged, exhaust can’t get out the way it should. Even if the engine is trying to push exhaust out, the blockage prevents flow, which can make the truck run badly or fail emissions-related checks.
“Stopping up” the exhaust pipes describes a restriction that prevents exhaust from flowing out of the engine. The analogy compares it to blocking a straw: you can force air in, but without an exit path, flow can’t occur, which can cause poor operation and trigger emissions/aftertreatment problems.
intake
"Like everything in between the intake and the exhaust might fail."
The intake is where air goes into the engine. If something in that path is restricted or broken, the turbo can’t deliver the right air pressure.
The intake is the path and components that deliver air to the engine, including piping and charge-air systems. In boosted diesels, intake restrictions or failures can affect pressure control and contribute to abnormal operating conditions.
back pressure
"if you've got 20 pounds of boost, maybe only 25 pounds of back pressure, now you got 20 pounds of boost and 100 pounds of back pressure."
Back pressure is how hard it is for exhaust gases to get out. If the exhaust system is restricted, pressure builds up and can stress engine parts.
Back pressure is the resistance to exhaust flow, often caused by restrictions in the exhaust or emissions hardware. When back pressure rises, it can increase stress upstream (like cylinder head and exhaust ports) and contribute to failures.
emissions systems
"it's like when the manufacturers come out and say, well, the exhaust, like the emissions systems themselves are pretty good."
Emissions systems are the parts that clean up exhaust so the vehicle meets pollution rules. They can wear out or get overwhelmed over time, especially if the engine is pushed hard.
“Emissions systems” on modern diesels typically include components like diesel particulate filtration and exhaust aftertreatment that manage pollutants. The discussion here is about how those systems can be stressed or become less effective as vehicles age, even if they’re designed to be robust.
torqued to spec
"I've had a brand new vehicle pop a boot from the manufacturer simply because they didn't have it all the way torqued to spec."
Torqued to spec means the bolts were tightened to the exact tightness the manufacturer calls for. If they’re not, parts can loosen or not seal properly and cause trouble.
“Torqued to spec” means tightening fasteners to the manufacturer’s specified torque value. If a joint isn’t tightened correctly, it can loosen or leak under heat and pressure cycles, leading to failures even on brand-new vehicles.
warranty coverage
"because there's a lot of protection that consumers have with regard to warranty issues, right? There is not protection that consumers have with regard to what we call consequential damages."
Warranty coverage is what the manufacturer agrees to pay for when a covered part breaks. The key point here is that warranties often cover the repair itself, but not the extra costs that happen because of the failure.
Warranty coverage is the contractual protection that pays for repairs to covered components when they fail. The transcript contrasts warranty coverage for the failed part with the lack of coverage for consequential damages (the indirect costs that follow).
consequential damages
"There is not protection that consumers have with regard to what we call consequential damages. And consequential damages are just what they sound like. They're damages that occur as a result of a failure of whatever it may be, okay?"
Consequential damages are costs that happen indirectly because of a failure—beyond the original broken part. In the transcript, the example is that an emissions-system failure can lead to other expensive outcomes (like additional repairs or downtime) that may not be covered even if the failed component itself is under warranty.
catastrophic drivetrain failure
"it results in a catastrophic emissions component failure whether it's a DPF or whatever, or a catastrophic drivetrain failure, transmission, engine, whatever."
“Catastrophic drivetrain failure” means the vehicle’s main power system breaks in a big way—often involving the transmission or related parts. The point they’re making is that even if the broken part is covered, the extra fallout costs may not be.
A “catastrophic drivetrain failure” means a major, sudden failure in the vehicle’s power-transfer system (commonly including transmission and related components). In the context of the transcript, it’s used as an example of how one failure can lead to other expensive outcomes that may not be covered beyond the failed component.
rent a car
"What if you need to rent a car? What if you don't, what if you have the general insurance"
The transcript discusses the need to rent a replacement vehicle when the primary truck is unavailable due to repairs or coverage disputes. It’s used to illustrate how out-of-pocket costs can arise beyond warranty coverage.
warranty repair
"and you don't get lost productivity time as part of a warranty repair. You don't get lost wages as a warranty repair."
A warranty repair is when the manufacturer pays to fix something on the truck. But warranties often don’t pay for everything around the repair—like lost income or other knock-on expenses.
A “warranty repair” is work covered under the manufacturer’s warranty, typically limited to fixing the vehicle itself. The transcript highlights that warranty coverage may not include broader financial impacts like lost wages or other consequential costs.
lost productivity time
"and you don't get lost productivity time as part of a warranty repair."
“Lost productivity time” refers to the economic impact of a vehicle being unavailable—such as downtime while waiting for repairs. The segment emphasizes that these indirect business impacts may not be covered by standard warranty repairs.
supplemental insurance
"unless you have supplemental insurance, which costs a lot of money, or you have some kind of a business E&O policy, right?"
Supplemental insurance is extra coverage you buy to protect against costs that your main insurance or warranty won’t pay. It’s often used when you’re worried about gaps like downtime-related losses.
Supplemental insurance is additional coverage beyond a base policy, intended to fill gaps—such as covering indirect costs when a vehicle is out of service. The transcript notes it can be expensive.
business E&O policy
"or you have some kind of a business E&O policy, right? And those are really expensive."
An E&O policy is insurance that helps protect a business from certain kinds of mistakes or failures that lead to financial claims. In this context, it’s mentioned as a way to cover losses when a truck issue affects business.
E&O stands for “errors and omissions,” a type of professional liability insurance. The transcript frames it as a way businesses can protect themselves from certain financial losses when relying on a vehicle for work.
warranty failures
"it is really important to think about what an OEM might do in order to protect a consumer from these types of warranty failures."
“Warranty failures” are repairs that a manufacturer might refuse to cover. The hosts are saying companies plan for situations where people try to save money in ways that can lead to expensive problems later.
The discussion frames warranty failures as a key risk for OEMs when customers try to cut costs (for example, by deleting or bypassing emissions equipment). OEMs may design systems and warranty policies to limit coverage for certain failure modes, especially those caused by tampering or neglect.
emission systems
"Like Corey says, the emission systems, especially nowadays, they're pretty good. You're not going to run into too many pattern failures of an emission system that's been on the road for anywhere between 15 and 20 years, right?"
“Emission systems” are the parts on a diesel that help reduce harmful exhaust. The point here is that they usually last a long time, but if you don’t maintain the truck, other problems can show up.
“Emission systems” is the broad set of components that control and reduce diesel exhaust pollutants (commonly NOx and soot). The hosts are emphasizing that these systems are generally reliable over long service lives, but failures can still happen—especially when maintenance is skipped.
preemptive maintenance
"who don't have the money to be able to do all the preemptive maintenance or all the preventative maintenance that you might have to do on a work vehicle."
“Preemptive” (preventive) maintenance is proactive service done on a schedule to prevent failures before they happen. The hosts connect it to emissions-system durability and to the reality that some owners/operators can’t afford the upkeep needed to avoid expensive downstream problems.
preventative maintenance
"...do all the preemptive maintenance or all the preventative maintenance that you might have to do on a work vehicle."
Preventive maintenance is regular care meant to stop problems early. Here, it’s tied to avoiding expensive downtime and knock-on issues.
“Preventative maintenance” is the scheduled upkeep intended to keep emissions and other systems operating within design parameters. In this segment, it’s used to explain why some failures show up as downtime and secondary costs rather than as simple, repeatable component defects.
deleting ... in advance so that way they never had the problem
"those guys are the guys that would generally delete it in advance so that way they never had the problem."
This is about doing the bypass/removal before anything breaks, instead of waiting until the truck has an emissions problem. Some owners do it to avoid downtime and expensive repairs. But it can still be risky legally and environmentally.
“Deleting in advance” means bypassing emissions systems before a failure or clogging event occurs, rather than waiting for components like the DPF to require service. This can be attractive to operators who want to avoid downtime and repair bills, but it also changes the truck’s emissions behavior and can create compliance risk. The transcript contrasts doing it proactively versus reacting after issues start.
cost of deleting versus cost of replacement
"at least on the diesel side, on the criminal practice, I would say at least 75% of my sentencing arguments had to do with the cost of deleting versus the cost of replacement."
The speaker is talking about a money decision: do you pay to fix the emissions equipment, or do you remove/bypass it instead. Repairs can be costly, so some people choose the cheaper option. The legal side then considers those costs when arguing sentencing.
This is the economic tradeoff owners and operators weigh when emissions hardware fails: paying for repair/replacement versus paying for an emissions “delete” solution. In practice, replacement parts like DPFs and related components can be expensive and sometimes hard to source, which can influence decisions. The transcript frames this as a factor in legal sentencing arguments.
aging fleet operation
"They're deleting because it is the cheapest, easiest way to keep their aging fleet operation. And that is something that you make an argument to a court."
An “aging fleet” means a company’s older trucks. Older vehicles often need more repairs, including emissions parts, so the hosts are discussing cost pressure as part of the decision-making.
“Aging fleet operation” refers to companies running older diesel vehicles that may require more frequent emissions-related repairs. That context is used to explain why some operators choose “deleting” as a cost-minimizing strategy.
EPA or DOJ
"Is that the change that you guys have both seen is the reception to the EPA or DOJ or just the government in general..."
EPA and DOJ are U.S. government agencies involved in enforcing environmental rules. The discussion here is about how their stance and enforcement priorities affect whether emissions deletes get prosecuted.
EPA is the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and DOJ is the Department of Justice. In emissions-deletion cases, these agencies can be involved in enforcement actions and legal arguments about compliance and intent.
SCR (selective catalytic reduction)
"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain"
SCR is the system that uses DEF to make diesel exhaust cleaner. It’s designed to cut down on nitrogen pollution that comes out of the tailpipe.
Selective catalytic reduction (SCR) is the emissions-control system that uses DEF to reduce NOx in diesel exhaust. DEF injection and catalyst chemistry work together to lower NOx, which is one of the main pollutants targeted by diesel regulations.
emissions enforcement
"have talked about the changes over the years with enforcement, like with you Stuart, some of the things that have happened Corey... Is there enough time left before late 2027, 2028 to be able to progress this particular part of emissions to a better point?"
Emissions enforcement is how the government checks whether vehicles are meeting pollution rules. If enforcement gets stricter or changes, it can change the risk and consequences for people doing illegal emissions modifications.
“Enforcement” in emissions policy refers to how regulators investigate, audit, and penalize vehicles or companies that don’t comply with emissions requirements. Changes in enforcement can affect how aggressively illegal modifications (like DEF deletes) are pursued and what compliance pathways exist.
accountability between the administration
"There's like a, what's the word I'm looking for? There's accountability between the administration, and this one will hold this one accountable..."
This refers to a governance/oversight concept where one part of the government is expected to monitor and hold another part responsible for outcomes. In the context of emissions policy, it implies follow-through on regulatory actions and measurable improvements rather than vague promises. For listeners, it’s a reminder that policy enforcement and updates can change over time.
holding environmental criminals liable
"...And holding environmental criminals liable, having these felonies holding them liable for these huge penalties..."
This means the government can prosecute people for breaking environmental rules, not just issue warnings. With diesel vehicles, it can apply when emissions systems are bypassed or modified to cheat pollution controls.
“Holding environmental criminals liable” refers to enforcement actions where people or companies are prosecuted for illegal emissions-related behavior. In the diesel world, this can include tampering with emissions systems (like DEF/aftertreatment) and using defeat devices or illegal software.
buyout
"because they either took the government buyout, the Doge buyout, which happened last year, or they don't agree with the direction of the agency"
A buyout is basically an offer for employees to leave their job and get paid to do so. If key people leave, the agency’s focus and enforcement approach can change.
A “buyout” here refers to a government employee incentive program where workers leave the agency in exchange for compensation. In policy discussions, staff turnover can change how aggressively an agency pursues enforcement or how it interprets priorities.
environmental enforcement migrating to the states
"So what I've seen is that this very heavy-handed movement is migrating to the states. Washington State just created a new law..."
The speaker is saying enforcement pressure may be moving from the federal government to individual states. That means the risk of getting in trouble for emissions deletes can depend on your state.
This describes a shift in enforcement focus from federal agencies toward state-level actions and prosecutions. For diesel owners, it implies DEF deletes and other emissions defeat strategies may carry different risks depending on where the vehicle is registered or operated.
tampering
"...it has to do with tampering and it has to do with emissions. I don't know if it's passed their Congress yet..."
Here, “tampering” means messing with the emissions system on purpose. The concern is that the truck will pollute more than it’s supposed to.
In an emissions context, “tampering” generally means modifying, disabling, or bypassing emissions-control systems so the vehicle no longer meets legal emissions requirements. It’s a key concept in enforcement because it distinguishes intentional defeat from normal wear-and-tear.
state legal theory
"...if you want to live in a liberal state like California or Colorado or New York or Washington State, and you do have potential criminal liability under a state legal theory..."
A “state legal theory” is basically how a state argues its case in court using its own laws. So even if federal enforcement slows down, a state might still go after emissions cheating.
A “state legal theory” means a state can pursue enforcement using its own laws and legal arguments, even if federal enforcement priorities change. In practice, this can shift where and how emissions-tampering cases are brought—so owners can’t assume federal inaction means safety everywhere.
future enforcement
"And so I don't, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful about the prospects of future enforcement ... you do see them backing off a lot of these really extreme policies."
“Future enforcement” here means how aggressively regulators (like the EPA) will pursue violations related to emissions rules and modifications. The speaker suggests enforcement may become less extreme after agencies back off certain policies, which affects how risky DEF-related modifications may be.
regret in the agency
"because I think that there is a real regret in the agency and with government employees ... you do see them backing off a lot of these really extreme policies."
They’re saying the agency may feel bad about how some past cases were handled. That matters because it could lead to less strict enforcement going forward.
The speaker claims there’s “regret” inside the agency about how past cases were handled, implying internal disagreement or acknowledgment that some enforcement actions were too aggressive. This is relevant because it can influence whether regulators reverse course or soften their approach.
diesel engine
"Common question we get from you guys a lot is, hey, I need a diesel engine. I either, you know, I can't wait this long to get one ... Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it."
They’re discussing getting a diesel engine replacement fast, especially when you can’t wait for shipping or parts availability. They also mention that what you need can change if your truck is modified or if you tow a lot.
The hosts are talking about sourcing a diesel engine quickly when customers need one sooner than typical lead times. They also connect engine choice to real-world use cases like towing and whether the truck is stock or modified.
stock vs modified truck
"It just takes too long or I don't, they don't have the parts in it that I need. Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it."
They’re pointing out that if your truck is stock, it’s usually easier to replace parts with factory-compatible options. If it’s modified, you may need a different setup so everything works together.
The transcript contrasts a “stock” truck (factory configuration) with a modified one, which can change what parts and engine setup are compatible. For emissions-related systems, modifications can also affect whether a replacement engine needs to match the existing emissions hardware/software.
towing heavy
"Maybe my truck's not stock or I tow heavy with it. I don't want to go back with just a stock engine."
Towing heavy means you’re pulling loads regularly, which puts more stress on the truck. That can make it more important to get the right engine and parts so it performs reliably.
“Towing heavy” is a usage condition that can drive different engine and calibration needs, such as ensuring adequate power/torque and proper emissions system operation under load. It also increases the importance of having the right parts available quickly.
DFC Diesel
"DFC Diesel is a sponsor of the podcast. We worked with them hand in hand on doing episodes"
DFC Diesel is a company that sponsors the show. They also help with technical questions, so they’re involved in the diesel repair/remanufacturing world.
DFC Diesel is mentioned as a podcast sponsor and as a remanufacturer that supports technical discussions. The hosts describe them as working on episodes and answering questions, implying they’re active in the diesel aftermarket.
Powerstroke
"They have a complete lineup of Cummins Duramax and Powerstroke remanufactured engines"
Powerstroke is Ford’s diesel engine name. The episode is talking about rebuilt Powerstroke engines that are sold with quality testing and a warranty.
Powerstroke is Ford’s diesel engine branding, and the hosts mention Powerstroke remanufactured engines. Remanufactured engines are built to a defined standard and typically come with a warranty, which is a key differentiator in the diesel aftermarket.
ISO 9001 2015 standards
"that are set to a standard of ISO 9001 2015 standards, which is a huge deal in the aftermarket."
ISO 9001:2015 is a set of rules for how a company runs its quality process. If a remanufacturer follows it, it usually means they have consistent steps and checks so you’re less likely to get a random-quality product.
ISO 9001:2015 is a quality-management standard that focuses on consistent processes, documentation, and continuous improvement. In the aftermarket, being built to ISO 9001:2015 can signal that the remanufacturing process is controlled and repeatable, not just “good luck” quality.
quality testing validation
"And there's certain levels of quality testing validation that are required for that."
This phrase means the engine isn’t just rebuilt—it’s also tested to make sure it meets the expected specs. That’s important because it reduces the chance of getting a reman engine that fails early.
“Quality testing validation” refers to the checks and tests used to confirm an engine meets a target specification before it’s sold. For remanufactured diesel engines, this can include verifying internal clearances, performance, and emissions-related readiness depending on the product scope.
industry leading warranty
"with an industry leading warranty, that's really comprehensive."
A warranty is the company’s guarantee that if something goes wrong, they’ll help cover it. A better warranty usually means the company expects the engine to last.
An “industry leading warranty” is a promise from the remanufacturer that covers defects or failures for a defined time/mileage. In the diesel aftermarket, warranty terms are often as important as the parts quality because they reflect confidence in the rebuild process.
OEM engine
"sometimes the options that are out there, it's just, it's a basic OEM engine. You want a little bit more."
OEM means “original equipment manufacturer,” like the engine as it was made for the truck. The hosts are saying some people want more than a basic stock-style replacement.
An OEM engine is built by the original manufacturer to factory specifications. The hosts contrast “basic OEM engine” options with higher-spec remanufactured series, implying buyers may want improved durability or performance beyond a stock rebuild.
core, street, tow haul
"So, there's a bunch of different series of engines that they have from core, street, tow haul,"
These are different versions of rebuilt engines for different driving needs. One might be more basic, another might be tuned or built for normal street use, and another for towing heavy loads.
These terms describe different remanufactured engine “tiers” or build levels aimed at different use cases. “Core” typically relates to the rebuild baseline, while “street” and “tow haul” suggest calibrations/parts choices optimized for daily driving versus heavy towing demands.
speed of air series
"and also the speed of air series, which we've covered on the podcast before."
“Speed of air” sounds like a performance-focused engine option. The idea is usually to help the engine move more air efficiently, which can improve how it pulls and responds.
“Speed of air series” sounds like a specific remanufactured engine lineup focused on airflow-related performance. In diesel contexts, airflow improvements often connect to turbo/boost and intake/exhaust efficiency, so this likely indicates a more performance-oriented build than a stock-style reman.
pistons
"Also, they're working with speed of air pistons, which it's the only piston that pays for itself. And there's a lot of really cool technology behind it."
Pistons are a core internal engine component that convert combustion pressure into crankshaft motion. In diesel performance builds, piston design/materials and friction characteristics can affect efficiency, power output, and how long the engine survives under higher loads.
fuel economy
"So, you can add that into your build and be able to get better fuel economy, you know, increased power, increased torque, and better engine life out of it."
Fuel economy is basically your “miles per gallon” (or equivalent). They’re saying certain engine upgrades can help the engine use fuel more efficiently.
Fuel economy is how efficiently an engine turns fuel into distance traveled. The hosts connect piston/engine build choices to improved fuel economy, which typically comes from reduced friction, better combustion efficiency, or optimized engine operation.
lead time
"some of the most common engine applications or series of engines that they have with that lead time, a lot of them are in stock or they have really short lead times."
Lead time is how long you have to wait after you order parts. Short lead times mean you can finish your build faster.
Lead time is the delay between ordering parts and receiving them. The hosts emphasize that many engine applications are either in stock or have short lead times, which matters for planning a build and avoiding downtime.
rods
"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
Rods are the parts that connect the piston to the crankshaft. Stronger rods can help the engine survive when you push it harder.
Connecting rods (often shortened to “rods”) transmit piston motion to the crankshaft. In diesel builds, upgraded rods are commonly used to handle higher cylinder pressures and torque demands.
cranks
"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
The crankshaft is the main rotating shaft that the engine uses to turn power into motion. Upgraded cranks can help the engine handle more torque safely.
Cranks refers to the crankshaft, which converts piston movement into rotational power. Diesel performance builds may upgrade the crank to improve strength and durability under increased torque.
valve train upgrades
"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, the valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
The valve train is what controls the engine’s breathing—when valves open and close. Upgrades can help the engine perform better and last longer when pushed.
The valve train controls how intake and exhaust valves open and close. Upgrades can improve airflow and durability, especially when an engine is modified for higher performance or runs at higher stress levels.
lack of lubricity
"It's something we've talked about a lot on the podcast and specifically ways that it can lead to a lot of costly repairs. And the main reason that we have these issues is a lack of lubricity."
Diesel fuel has to act like a lubricant inside the fuel system. If the fuel doesn’t lubricate well, parts can wear out faster and repairs get expensive.
Lubricity is the ability of fuel to lubricate internal engine components, especially in diesel fuel systems. The hosts say a lack of lubricity is a main reason for costly diesel repairs, because poor lubrication can accelerate wear in high-pressure fuel components.
Hotshot Secrets
"And the main reason that we have these issues is a lack of lubricity. Our friends over at Hotshot Secrets have developed a formula"
Hotshot Secrets is a company that makes products for diesel/fuel. Here they’re credited with a fuel additive/formula intended to help protect the engine.
Hotshot Secrets is mentioned as the developer of a diesel fuel formula aimed at addressing issues like lubricity. In this context, the company is positioned as a solution provider for improving fuel performance and reducing repair risk.
injectors
"Hotshot's EDT is a 6-in-1 formula, it cleans injectors, boosts C-tane, and it has four times the lubricity as our leading competitor."
Fuel injectors are the parts that spray fuel into the engine. If they get dirty, the engine can run worse and may need expensive repairs, so cleaning them is a big deal.
Fuel injectors are the components that precisely spray diesel into the engine. Deposits or poor fuel can cause injector fouling, which reduces efficiency and can lead to rough running or costly repairs—hence the emphasis on cleaning injectors.
C-tane
"Hotshot's EDT is a 6-in-1 formula, it cleans injectors, boosts C-tane, and it has four times the lubricity as our leading competitor."
“C-tane” is about making diesel easier to ignite. When ignition is better, the engine can start more smoothly and burn fuel more effectively.
“C-tane” is a fuel additive concept related to improving diesel ignition quality (similar in idea to cetane rating). Better ignition characteristics can help combustion, starting, and overall efficiency, especially when fuel quality varies.
diesel fuel
"So, you don't have to worry about some of those issues that just come with diesel fuel anytime we buy it from the pump."
Diesel fuel quality can change depending on where you buy it and how it’s stored. If the fuel isn’t great, it can cause problems over time, so they’re recommending an additive to help protect the engine.
Diesel fuel quality can vary by source and storage conditions, which affects combustion and can contribute to deposits or injector wear. The hosts frame the additive as a way to reduce maintenance issues that can happen when diesel fuel isn’t ideal.
HotshotSecret.com
"If you go to HotshotSecret.com, use code dieselpod20, it'll get you 20% off your order. We really appreciate the team and our friends over at Hotshot Secrets offering this discount code just for you guys."
HotshotSecret.com is a website that sells products for diesel trucks. Here, they’re advertising a diesel fuel additive and giving listeners a discount code.
HotshotSecret.com is an aftermarket retailer that sells diesel maintenance products, including fuel additives. In this segment, they’re promoting a specific additive and a discount code for listeners.
federal government
"I think one of the big things maybe to pay attention to of what you just said, Stuart, is in the future it's shifting to the state level... Yeah, it can be vastly different between states and the federal government."
The federal government sets some rules, but states can have different laws or enforcement. So what’s allowed in one place might not be allowed in another.
The segment highlights that emissions and related legal rules can differ between federal regulations and state-level enforcement. That matters for anything affecting emissions equipment, since compliance requirements may not be uniform across the country.
criminal to civil
"So, I think the progress that we talked about before, Stuart, with the change from criminal to civil"
“Criminal to civil” means the legal consequences shift from serious criminal prosecution to more administrative or lawsuit-style enforcement. That can change how risky enforcement feels for companies or individuals.
The “change from criminal to civil” refers to how enforcement or penalties are categorized in law—criminal cases typically involve prosecution with higher stakes, while civil cases are usually handled through lawsuits, fines, or regulatory actions. In the context of emissions tampering, the legal pathway can significantly affect risk and enforcement intensity.
LCA
"because the EPA... they measure what's called basically LCA. It's cradle to the grave."
LCA means looking at pollution and environmental impact over the whole life of something, not just what comes out of the tailpipe. So a system might reduce exhaust pollution, but the analysis also counts manufacturing and other stages.
LCA (life-cycle assessment) is a method for estimating environmental impact across a product’s entire life—from raw material extraction (“cradle”) to disposal (“grave”). In this segment, the claim is that the EPA/NASA measurement approach uses LCA, which can change conclusions about whether emissions controls are “better” overall.
NASA
"because the EPA, now NASA, they measure what's called basically LCA."
NASA is brought up as an example of an organization that uses a broader way of measuring environmental impact. The takeaway is that the “rules” for measuring pollution can change the argument.
NASA is mentioned in the context of measurement methodology, implying that the life-cycle assessment (LCA) approach is used or influenced by agencies beyond the EPA. The key point is that the framework for environmental accounting can drive policy outcomes.
oil gets diluted
"and we're talking about the engines have a 50% less life span than what they generally have because the oil gets diluted, EG or et cetera, et cetera, all well documented."
Oil dilution is when fuel ends up mixing into the engine oil instead of staying in the combustion process. That makes the oil “thinner” and less able to protect the engine. Over time it can wear the engine out faster.
Oil dilution means fuel (or other contaminants) mixes into the engine oil, lowering its viscosity and reducing lubrication. In diesel engines, this can happen when incomplete combustion or certain operating conditions cause fuel to wash past the rings. Diluted oil accelerates wear and can shorten engine life significantly.
manufacturing costs
"But realistically, the cycle had just restarted and we never factored in any of the manufacturing costs. The transport from the ships, the rare earth material extraction..."
This is the idea that the pollution story doesn’t end at the exhaust. Building a vehicle (and replacing it sooner) also creates emissions. So a change that looks good on paper can be less beneficial when you count the full lifecycle.
The “manufacturing costs” idea is about life-cycle emissions: the environmental impact isn’t just tailpipe pollution, but also the emissions and resource use required to build the vehicle and its emissions systems. Even if a policy reduces tailpipe emissions, the overall benefit can shrink if it causes frequent replacement or increased production. This is often framed as a “well-to-wheel” or life-cycle accounting argument.
rare earth material extraction
"The transport from the ships, the rare earth material extraction from other countries that have eight year olds doing this work, et cetera, et cetera."
This is about the mining needed to get certain materials used in modern products. That mining can have big environmental and human-cost impacts. The discussion is saying those costs should be counted when judging whether a change is truly “clean.”
“Rare earth material extraction” refers to mining and processing materials used in many modern technologies, including components tied to electrification and some emissions-related systems. The point in the transcript is that upstream supply-chain impacts can be significant and may offset tailpipe gains. It’s a life-cycle/environmental impact consideration rather than a direct engine performance topic.
cradle to the grave
"[2993.1s] But the way it's written is basically, [2994.7s] EPA can't take into account the LCA, the cradle to the grave. [3001.0s] So like the manufacturing costs, the maintenance fees,"
“Cradle to the grave” means looking at the whole life of a product—how it’s made, how it’s used, and what happens to it later. The point here is that the rules being discussed may focus on only part of that lifecycle.
“Cradle to the grave” is a lifecycle approach that considers environmental impacts from manufacturing through use and eventual disposal. The speaker argues the EPA framework can’t fully account for those upstream and downstream costs when evaluating emissions impacts.
soot
"[3013.6s] So if we say that that soot and NOx and hydrocarbons, [3019.5s] everything else are harming humans, [3020.9s] then it would be the EPA's responsibility to reduce that."
Soot is tiny black particles that can come out of diesel exhaust. It’s harmful to breathe, which is why emissions rules try to reduce it.
Soot is fine particulate matter produced by incomplete combustion, common in diesel exhaust. It’s a key emissions target because it can contribute to respiratory and cardiovascular health problems.
hydrocarbons
"[3013.6s] So if we say that that soot and NOx and hydrocarbons, [3019.5s] everything else are harming humans, [3020.9s] then it would be the EPA's responsibility to reduce that."
Hydrocarbons are leftover fuel that didn’t fully burn in the engine. They can contribute to air pollution, so emissions systems try to reduce them.
Hydrocarbons are unburned or partially burned fuel components in exhaust. They contribute to smog formation and are regulated alongside soot and NOx as part of overall emissions control.
PM 2.5
"The EPA likes to call it PM 2.5. So if we look at a vehicle and say, well, how much PM 2.5 comes out of it..."
PM 2.5 is tiny soot-like particles in the air. Because they’re so small, they can get deep into your lungs, which is why it’s a big deal for health and regulation.
PM 2.5 is “particulate matter” with particles smaller than 2.5 microns. It’s a key air-quality metric because fine particles can penetrate deep into the lungs, so regulators often use it to describe health impacts of emissions.
wildfire offsetting emissions
"But what they aren't saying is just the wildfire from Canada in 2023... that one wildfire offset all vehicle emissions by 1,200 years. So in the grand scheme of things, are we actually making an impact?"
They’re basically saying wildfires can create way more air pollution than cars do. So the question becomes whether cleaning up vehicle emissions really makes a noticeable difference compared to huge events like wildfire smoke.
The segment argues that wildfire smoke can dominate particulate emissions compared to vehicles, and uses that to question whether vehicle emissions reductions meaningfully change overall air quality. This is essentially a “relative contribution” argument: if one source is much larger, the impact of regulating another source may be smaller than expected.
emissions controls on modern engines
"So modern technology, all the things people are scared of, the modern engines take care of all of that. They're already clean enough."
The segment claims modern engines and emissions-control systems are “already clean enough,” referring to the idea that newer diesel technology (and its aftertreatment) reduces regulated pollutants compared with older vehicles. This is a general argument about how emissions systems like catalysts and NOx/PM control hardware change real-world exhaust.
selective catalytic reduction (SCR)
"... we need to go back to an area that we didn't have these maintenance systems that are designed to fail. ... forcing the emission systems to be there..."
SCR is the main “clean-up” system on many modern diesels that uses DEF to reduce harmful exhaust gases. If you delete DEF, the SCR system can’t clean the exhaust properly.
SCR is the common technology behind DEF dosing: DEF is injected into the exhaust and, with a catalyst, reduces NOx emissions. When DEF dosing is deleted or disabled, SCR can’t do its job effectively, which is why DEF deletes are tied to higher NOx output.
emissions penalties
"... that we didn't have these maintenance systems that are designed to fail. They're very expensive and we have to pay shipping and emissions penalties from all over the country..."
“Emissions penalties” are the costs that come from not meeting government pollution rules. If a company or vehicle doesn’t comply, there can be fines or other financial consequences.
“Emissions penalties” here refers to regulatory and compliance costs tied to meeting emissions limits, including financial consequences when vehicles or fleets don’t comply. In practice, these costs can show up as manufacturer penalties, enforcement actions, or downstream costs that affect vehicle pricing and operating economics.
two to four miles per gallon fuel penalties
"... we have to pay shipping and emissions penalties from all over the country, along with two to four miles per gallon fuel penalties for vehicle."
A “fuel penalty” means the truck uses more fuel than it otherwise would. The speaker is saying emissions equipment can make the vehicle less efficient by a couple mpg.
A “fuel penalty” means reduced fuel economy—here described as a drop of roughly two to four mpg—associated with emissions-control operation or related system constraints. Diesel emissions systems (like SCR/DEF dosing strategies) can affect engine calibration and operating conditions, which can translate into measurable mpg changes.
Biden era
"... are still taking advantage of this system when they came in at their heaviest hand of enforcement, which was the Biden era."
“Biden era” here just means the time period when the rules and enforcement were described as being especially tough. It’s being used to explain when the speaker thinks enforcement was at its peak.
“Biden era” is used as a shorthand for the period when the administration’s enforcement posture and regulatory actions were described as especially strict. In emissions-debate contexts, this often refers to how aggressively agencies pursued compliance and penalties.
NOx (nitrogen oxides)
"So if even the most good-hearted environmentalists came out... enforce harder..."
NOx is a type of pollution that diesel engines can produce. It’s one of the main things emissions systems are designed to reduce. If DEF systems are deleted or disabled, NOx reduction can fail.
NOx (nitrogen oxides) are a key class of pollutants targeted by diesel emissions controls. Technologies like SCR aim to reduce NOx because it contributes to smog and other air-quality problems. In discussions about DEF deletes, NOx is the measurable emissions impact regulators care about most.
Tell Me What Happened podcast
"The award-winning Tell Me What Happened podcast from OnStar is back. New emergencies, new heroes."
This part is an ad/promo for a podcast called “Tell Me What Happened.” It doesn’t add car-tech knowledge here—it’s just letting you know the next season is out.
This is a promotional segment for the “Tell Me What Happened” podcast, specifically mentioning season six and new emergencies/heroes. It’s not a technical automotive topic in this excerpt, but it’s a clear chapter-like marker for listeners.
OnStar
"The award-winning Tell Me What Happened podcast from OnStar is back. New emergencies, new heroes."
OnStar is a service that connects a car to help and information services, and it’s tied to GM. In this clip, they’re just promoting their podcast, not discussing a specific car feature.
OnStar is a connected-vehicle and telematics service brand associated with GM vehicles. In the segment, it’s referenced as the source of a podcast (“Tell Me What Happened”), which is more about media than vehicle tech. Still, it’s a recognizable automotive-adjacent brand worth noting for listeners who track telematics and in-car services.
DPFs
"...Duramax Forum or Diesel Place or Cummins Forum... like 15 years ago, people would be talking about like the cost of DPFs and catalytic converters and all this stuff."
A DPF is a filter that catches the smoky soot from a diesel engine. If it gets clogged, the truck has to clean it out, and if that doesn’t work, repairs or replacement can get pricey.
DPF stands for diesel particulate filter, a key emissions component that traps soot from diesel exhaust. Over time it can clog and requires regeneration (burning off soot), and replacement or repair can be expensive—so it’s a frequent topic in diesel ownership discussions.
emissions testing
"People should be able to meet the standard without spending $20,000 in emissions testing, you know, in California or Detroit. You should be able to do reasonable basis emissions testing."
“Emissions testing” is the process of measuring a vehicle’s exhaust output (like NOx) to confirm it meets legal standards. The segment contrasts extremely expensive testing with more “reasonable basis” approaches, implying a policy debate about how strict and costly compliance should be.
mandatory car testing
"One of the most ridiculous things of the entire enforcement era was just mandatory car testing. Just absolutely the absolute pinnacle of government inefficiency."
Mandatory car testing means every vehicle has to be checked by the government, often on a regular schedule. The speaker thinks this kind of blanket approach wastes time and money instead of solving the real problem.
“Mandatory car testing” refers to requiring vehicles to undergo emissions or compliance checks on a fixed schedule or under broad rules. The speaker calls it the “pinnacle of government inefficiency,” framing it as an enforcement approach that may not be the most effective use of resources.
emissions certification testing requirements
"...you have to send your products to one lab in California that's backed up for three years and you have to pay $20,000 to get one tune tested..."
They’re talking about rules that require emissions-related modifications to be tested and approved before they can be sold. The complaint is that the process is slow, costly, and overly restrictive.
The segment describes a regulatory framework where aftermarket emissions-related products must be tested and approved, including paying for expensive testing and limiting what can be sold in certain states. This is essentially about how compliance is enforced through product-specific testing and approval rather than broad permission.
FDA
"...or you could do it yourselves like the FDA does for all their drugs, right?"
The FDA is the U.S. agency that regulates food and medicines. The speaker uses it as an example of how testing could be done more flexibly than the current emissions rules.
The FDA (Food and Drug Administration) is referenced as an example of a regulator that allows certain kinds of testing approaches for drugs. The comparison is used to argue that emissions product testing could be handled more efficiently than the current aftermarket-tuning process.
dyno
"$7,500 bridge tool must sell as a dyno to do our own testing."
A dyno (dynamometer) measures engine output—like horsepower and torque—under controlled conditions. In this context, the speaker argues that if tuners could test on a dyno themselves, it would reduce the cost and delay of getting aftermarket products approved.
administrative change
"“But for shops that are openly advertising deletes already, what is the potential blowback if there’s an administrative change in the future?”"
An administrative change is basically a change in how the government runs or enforces the rules. It can affect whether certain actions get targeted more or less heavily.
An “administrative change” refers to policy or enforcement posture changes that can come from regulators without needing new legislation. For emissions-related topics, this can mean shifts in how aggressively agencies investigate, interpret rules, or pursue cases.
emissions defeat / illegal emissions modifications
"“If you’re going to advertise deletes right now, you deserve it… you deserve to pay a big fat penalty.”"
“Deletes” in this context usually mean changing the truck’s emissions system so it doesn’t work the way it was designed to. That can be illegal because it can increase pollution.
The discussion implies “deletes” as emissions defeat strategies—modifying or bypassing emissions controls so the vehicle no longer meets legal emissions requirements. Even if a delete is marketed as a performance or maintenance fix, it can be treated as an emissions violation under federal law.
civil enforcement
"“I’ve gotten probably five new civil enforcement in the last month and a half or two months.”"
Civil enforcement is when the government goes after you with fines and legal penalties, not necessarily criminal charges. Even if it’s “civil,” it can still be very expensive and disruptive.
“Civil enforcement” is the non-criminal side of government action—typically involving penalties, fines, and compliance demands rather than jail time. In emissions-related cases, civil enforcement can still be severe and can target businesses that advertise or perform prohibited modifications.
criminal liability
"You don't really have to worry about, at least right now, the criminal side coming back... unless something changes with the legislation."
Criminal liability means the government could treat the conduct as a crime, not just a civil violation. The segment warns that this risk may not be gone forever.
Criminal liability is legal exposure where conduct can be prosecuted as a crime, potentially leading to criminal penalties. The segment argues that while criminal risk may not be immediate, it could return or be formalized through new rules.
Trump administration
"The Trump administration, I've had lots of conversations with people in the Trump administration and the EPA very high up..."
The segment references the Trump administration in relation to EPA enforcement priorities and conversations with officials. It’s used to support the claim that the EPA leadership had little tolerance for emissions tampering.
RFIs
"...and all the RFIs started going out. There's still civil liability."
In this context, RFIs are requests for information used by regulators to investigate compliance and gather evidence. The segment ties them to early enforcement efforts when emissions tampering was more widespread.
civil liability
"There's still civil liability. There's no guarantee that criminal liability is going to go away forever."
Civil liability means you can still get sued or face penalties even if it’s not treated as a criminal case. In this segment, the point is that “criminal” isn’t the only risk.
Civil liability refers to legal responsibility in lawsuits or regulatory enforcement that can result in penalties or injunctions, without necessarily requiring criminal prosecution. The segment emphasizes that even if criminal exposure is reduced, civil enforcement can still occur.
end user liability
"someone asked, could enforcement on owners or the end user become a thing one day?... End user liability is really hard to prove. Most people would say, hey, I just bought this vehicle. It was deleted..."
“End user liability” means the owner of the vehicle could be blamed for the illegal modification. The hosts are saying it’s hard for regulators to prove who did what and to enforce it consistently.
“End user liability” is the idea that the person who owns the vehicle could be held responsible for illegal emissions tampering, not just the shop that performed it. The discussion highlights that proving this kind of liability can be difficult, especially when enforcement resources are limited.
resource perspective
"Enforcement on end users is just practically impossible from a resource perspective. I hate to say that because I don't want to encourage people to buy or drive deleted vehicles..."
This means regulators may not be able to chase every violation because they don’t have enough people or time. The discussion is that enforcing end-user deletes nationwide would be very difficult.
“Resource perspective” refers to how enforcement agencies prioritize cases based on staffing, time, and investigatory capacity. The transcript suggests that end-user enforcement is unlikely because it would be too resource-intensive to pursue broadly.
Biden administration
"But even under the most oppressive enforcement of the Biden administration, they were not conducting enforcement on end users."
They’re talking about the federal government’s approach under the Biden administration. The claim is that enforcement against owners wasn’t being pursued as aggressively as people feared.
The “Biden administration” is referenced as the current federal leadership during the time of the discussion, specifically regarding how aggressively the EPA was enforcing emissions-related violations. The speaker claims that even under that administration, enforcement on end users wasn’t happening.
enforcement action
"I have advised my clients that it's my position that they are not going to get an enforcement action for that anymore, because it's impossible not to work on deleted vehicles. And as long as they're not installing the deletes, they can do the work on the deleted vehicles."
An “enforcement action” is what happens when the government decides someone broke the rules and takes action against them. The point being made is that doing repairs on a deleted truck might be treated differently than installing the delete.
An “enforcement action” is a legal or regulatory step taken by authorities after they determine a violation occurred. Here, the speaker argues that shops may not face enforcement if they only service deleted vehicles and are not installing the deletes.
inspection sticker
"[4045.8s] local enforcement, then whenever you go to actually get an inspection sticker for your vehicle, [4076.1s] got an inspection sticker and a cop pulls you over and your city, your state, you know, takes that seriously"
An inspection sticker is proof that a vehicle has passed the required emissions/safety inspection for its jurisdiction. The transcript frames it like a gatekeeper for legality: pass the test and you’re allowed to drive, fail and you should be treated as not compliant. This is a key enforcement mechanism because it connects emissions compliance to real-world driving.
Congress and Senate
"[4096.5s] So that's where Congress and Senate, you know, they all got to get involved and do it. But [4101.2s] likewise, 200 signatures to get us there."
Congress and the Senate are referenced as the legislative bodies that would need to change the law to alter how enforcement works. The transcript implies that policy changes affecting emissions compliance and inspection enforcement require formal legislative action. It also mentions “signatures” as part of the process, indicating a political pathway to change.
ATF
"[4112.8s] Can I ask you a follow-up question, Stuart, with in regards to that? [4117.8s] Is, say if we take the ATF, and there's certain products that have been sold"
ATF is a federal agency that deals with firearms and related public-safety enforcement. In the conversation, they use ATF as an example of how enforcement focus can depend on what an agency is responsible for. It’s an analogy for why emissions enforcement might be handled differently.
ATF refers to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which regulates and enforces laws related to firearms and other controlled items. The transcript uses ATF as an analogy for why enforcement might differ by category—pollution vs public safety. While not an emissions topic directly, it’s used to explain how agencies prioritize enforcement mandates.
loophole for race vehicles, farm vehicles
"...is there really not a loophole for race vehicles, farm vehicles, et cetera?... A lot of people believe... there's some sort of loophole that exists for a race truck or something that's operating on a farm..."
People often wonder if race cars or farm trucks can legally bypass emissions rules. The point here is that there usually isn’t a clean, safe loophole—so trying to exploit one can still get you in trouble.
The discussion centers on whether emissions rules have exceptions (“loopholes”) for certain vehicles like race trucks or farm equipment. The hosts argue that, as of now, there isn’t a reliable loophole for pickups and that any potential exception is narrow and risky, especially as regulations and interpretations change.
mobile source vehicle
"...for a vehicle, for like a mobile source vehicle, like, you know, like our pickups and stuff?..."
“Mobile source vehicle” is a legal/emissions category for vehicles that move and produce exhaust while driving. It’s important because the rules for those vehicles are usually strict and specific.
A “mobile source vehicle” is a vehicle category used in emissions regulation—meaning the emissions come from a moving vehicle rather than a stationary industrial source. That regulatory framing matters because it determines which emissions rules and compliance pathways apply.
reverse gear
"...the loophole, though, it can't have a current loophole. If we got on just language, it can't have a reverse gear... race cars and pro mods now have reverse gears..."
They’re saying the “loophole” people talk about might hinge on a technical detail: whether the vehicle has reverse. If today’s race cars have reverse, that old wording may no longer help you.
The hosts mention that a supposed loophole depends on regulatory language—specifically that the vehicle “can’t have a reverse gear.” They also note that modern race cars/pro mods may have reverse gears, which can make older regulatory wording outdated or harder to use as a workaround.
Borla exhaust
"...anything on the engine or anything that was once certified must have to stay the same way. So whenever I was that's Borla exhaust EPA finding."
Borla makes aftermarket exhaust systems. The mention of an “EPA finding” suggests that exhaust changes aren’t just about sound—EPA rules can affect whether a product is legal or compliant.
Borla is an aftermarket exhaust manufacturer. The transcript ties Borla exhaust to an “EPA finding,” implying that exhaust products can be subject to EPA compliance determinations and enforcement when they don’t meet emissions requirements.
EPA finding
"...anything on the engine or anything that was once certified must have to stay the same way. So whenever I was that's Borla exhaust EPA finding."
An “EPA finding” is basically the government saying whether something meets emissions rules. Here it’s being used to show that exhaust or engine modifications can get you in trouble if they don’t comply.
An “EPA finding” refers to an Environmental Protection Agency determination related to emissions compliance—often tied to whether a modification or aftermarket part is legal under emissions regulations. In this context, it’s used to emphasize that exhaust/engine certification rules can constrain what can be changed.
race vehicle loophole
"...They there's no loophole. Like, look, if you have a genuine race vehicle that you're not driving on the road... the EPA is not going to enforce on you..."
People sometimes think “if it’s a race car, emissions rules don’t apply.” The point here is that the exemption is narrow—if it’s actually being used on public roads or sold for road use, regulators can still go after it.
The “race vehicle loophole” is the idea that certain vehicles used only for racing are exempt from some emissions enforcement. The hosts argue there isn’t a broad loophole: if the vehicle is registered and driven on public roads (or parts are sold for road use), enforcement can still apply.
emergency vehicles
"...The loopholes that that would be in consideration are, I mean, they are genuine, genuine, like emergency vehicles, true race vehicles, farm equipment..."
Some vehicles used for emergencies can qualify for special rules. The hosts are saying these are real exceptions, not the kind of workaround people usually mean when they talk about “loopholes.”
Emergency-vehicle exemptions are a type of regulatory exception where certain vehicles may be treated differently under emissions enforcement. The transcript frames these as legitimate exceptions compared to the broader “race vehicle” claims people try to use.
farm equipment that is not operational
"...true race vehicles, farm equipment that is not operational that you need to temporarily modify. That stuff is like..."
Some equipment used on farms may have special treatment if it’s not currently operating and needs temporary changes. The key takeaway is that regulators look at real-world use, not just paperwork.
The transcript mentions an exception category for farm equipment that isn’t operational and needs temporary modification. This highlights how enforcement exemptions can depend on the vehicle’s actual use and operational status, not just what it’s labeled as.
out of country loophole
"...they're like, well, why don't you just go to Canada and open a company or do this and that?... Realistically, there's people in America that found out the hard way..."
Some people think they can avoid U.S. rules by doing the business from another country. The discussion here says that doesn’t really protect you if the products end up in the U.S. or are tied to U.S. activity.
The “out of country loophole” refers to the idea that moving the operation or company abroad avoids U.S. enforcement. The hosts argue that this isn’t a real workaround because the U.S. can still hold people responsible for what’s shipped or sold into the U.S., and downstream consequences can still lead to enforcement.
civil side
"...they're still hitting that civil side. I'm aware of a couple new cases..."
“Civil side” means the government can go after someone with fines or lawsuits, not necessarily jail or criminal charges. It’s a common way regulators enforce emissions rules.
“Civil side” refers to enforcement through civil penalties and lawsuits rather than criminal prosecution. For emissions-related violations, regulators may pursue civil actions against companies or responsible parties even when criminal charges are not pursued.
dual illegality
"...they because in if we're talking about Canada, for example, there's a lot of Canadian companies, there there has to be what's called dual illegality. So it has to be illegal in Canada and in the US..."
“Dual illegality” is basically the idea that the same act has to be illegal in both places. If it’s not illegal where the person/company is located, it can be harder to take certain legal steps.
“Dual illegality” means conduct must be illegal in both the home country and the other country for certain legal actions (like extradition) to proceed. In cross-border enforcement, this can limit how easily regulators can pursue offenders when the activity is only illegal in one jurisdiction.
federalized delete rule
"...Canadian parliament is supposed to be making a federalized delete rule. So... it's supposed to be coming out within the next like year..."
This means Canada may make a single national rule about whether DEF deletes are allowed. That would close gaps where deletes might be legal in one region but not another.
A “federalized delete rule” implies Canada would standardize DEF-delete legality at the federal level rather than leaving it to regional rules. If implemented, it could reduce loopholes where deletes are legal in some areas but not others, affecting cross-border enforcement dynamics.
extradition
"...because there's not it's not illegal in both places. So there's no extradition. And there's no other material impact besides what they're selling..."
Extradition is when one country hands someone over to another country for prosecution. If the conduct isn’t illegal in both places, extradition may not be possible.
Extradition is the process of transferring a person from one jurisdiction to another to face criminal charges. The transcript suggests that if deletes aren’t illegal in both countries, extradition may not apply, limiting enforcement beyond what’s already being sold or regulated locally.
EPA legalize
"Did the EPA Just Legalize DEF Deletes? Kory Willis & Lawyer Explain ... We appreciate all your support here in your 10 of the diesel podcast."
This is about whether the EPA allows certain emissions changes. If you mess with emissions equipment, you can face legal trouble, so it’s important to know what’s actually permitted.
The “EPA legalize” framing points to whether the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s rules allow certain emissions-related modifications. For diesel owners, this matters because deleting or disabling emissions equipment can violate federal law even if the vehicle still runs normally.
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