Diesel Fuel is Expensive. Does This Actually Help?
About this episode
Fuel prices are driving renewed talk about diesel fuel economy and whether additives can actually pay back. The hosts address skepticism, then lay out cost/benefit math using recent price spikes and conservative MPG assumptions. They explain how higher cetane (“C-tane”), injector cleaner, lubricity, and water/soot control could improve combustion and reduce wasted fuel, DPF loading, and even protect CP4 pumps. They also discuss dosing, cost-per-treatment comparisons, and a “two step system” with deep cleaning plus a maintenance dose.
fuel additives
"I'm not talking just about fuel additives [73.4s] or even fuel additives at all."
Fuel additives are extra chemicals you put into your fuel. They’re sold to help your engine run cleaner or more efficiently, but not every product actually works as promised.
Fuel additives are chemicals mixed with gasoline or diesel to try to improve how the fuel burns or how well the engine runs. In practice, they’re often marketed for things like cleaner injectors, better combustion, or improved fuel economy, but results can vary a lot by product and engine.
lubricant industry
"And so I've always kind of looked at it [85.4s] through a skeptical kind of lens. [89.6s] But I think right now, everyone wants better fuel economy. ... [122.1s] Our lubricant industry is largely to blame. [124.9s] There are a lot of bad products been put out there."
The lubricant industry makes and sells oils, greases, and related chemical products, and it also overlaps with the broader additive market. The host is pointing out that past bad products can reduce consumer trust, which matters because many additive claims are hard to verify without controlled testing.
mathy
"We're going to get mathy today instead of science and kind of break down the numbers behind it."
They’re saying they’ll do more number-crunching than science talk. The idea is to compare what the additive costs versus what you might save or gain from using it.
When the host says they’ll get “mathy,” they’re signaling that the episode will use cost/benefit calculations rather than purely technical or scientific claims. For listeners, this means they’ll likely compare additive cost against expected fuel-economy or maintenance-related savings.
two-step system
"It's our two-step system we've talked about a lot. We have six components in here. These products are designed to treat the poor fuel that we get and also protect the fuel system."
They’re describing a treatment plan with two different products or stages. One is meant to help the engine use fuel more efficiently, and the other is meant to help protect the fuel system.
A “two-step system” implies the additive program uses two different products or phases rather than a single treatment. The speaker claims one part is aimed at improving efficiency (combustion/ignition behavior) while the other also protects the fuel system.
fuel-miot molecule
"And the higher your C-tane level gets is it increases the time of the burn of the fuel-miot molecule. So you get a more complete burn of that fuel."
They’re talking about combustion: how the fuel burns after it lights off. The idea is that with better fuel quality (higher cetane), the engine can burn the fuel more completely, which can improve efficiency.
The speaker is describing how raising cetane affects combustion chemistry—specifically, how long the fuel takes to burn once it ignites. In diesel terms, a higher cetane number typically shortens ignition delay and supports a more complete, efficient burn.
DPF
"That's less particulate that then gets pushed out to the DPF or out the exhaust pipe as wasted fuel."
DPF means Diesel Particulate Filter. It’s a device on a diesel exhaust that catches soot so it doesn’t go into the air. If less soot is being made, the filter has an easier job.
DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter. It traps soot (particulate matter) produced by a diesel engine so it doesn’t exit through the exhaust. When the speaker says “less particulate … pushed out to the DPF,” they’re talking about reducing soot reaching/being handled by the filter.
particulate
"That's less particulate that then gets pushed out to the DPF or out the exhaust pipe as wasted fuel."
“Particulate” here means tiny bits of soot in diesel exhaust. A diesel filter (DPF) tries to catch them before they leave the car. Less soot usually means the engine is burning fuel more effectively.
In diesel exhaust, “particulate” refers to tiny solid particles (soot) created during combustion. These particles are what the DPF is designed to capture. The speaker links reducing particulate to less wasted fuel and better efficiency.
miles per gallon
"So the more drops you can use to power the vehicle, the more miles per gallon you're going to get."
Miles per gallon (MPG) tells you how far the car can go using one gallon of fuel. If the engine wastes less fuel, MPG usually improves. The speaker is arguing that better combustion means better MPG.
Miles per gallon (MPG) is a fuel-economy measure: how many miles a vehicle can travel per gallon of fuel. The speaker ties efficiency to using more of the fuel’s energy for propulsion rather than wasting it out the exhaust. In diesel discussions, MPG often correlates with combustion completeness and losses like soot/particulate.
injector cleaner
"The other big winner in that is the injector cleaner. We add a strong injector cleaner into our products. This cleans your fuel system."
An injector cleaner is a fuel additive that helps keep the fuel injectors working properly. If injectors get dirty, they can spray fuel less accurately, which wastes fuel and can increase soot. Cleaning them can help the engine burn fuel more effectively.
An injector cleaner is an additive intended to clean and improve the performance of a diesel engine’s fuel injectors. The speaker says they add injector cleaner to their products to “clean your fuel system,” implying better spray/combustion and less wasted fuel/particulate. This is a common approach to restoring efficiency when deposits build up.
internal diesel injector deposits
"If you've got internal diesel injector deposits that are affecting your spray pattern [457.2s] in your injector nozzle, these diesels, of course, we don't have a spark plug."
Diesel injectors can get gunked up inside over time. That gunk can change how the injector sprays fuel, so the engine doesn’t burn it as completely as it should.
“Internal diesel injector deposits” are buildup inside a diesel injector (often from fuel contaminants and combustion byproducts). They can change how the injector sprays fuel, which can hurt atomization and lead to incomplete combustion.
spray pattern
"If you've got internal diesel injector deposits that are affecting your spray pattern [457.2s] in your injector nozzle, these diesels, of course, we don't have a spark plug. [462.1s] So it's all about atomizing that fuel, hitting that sweet spot of that piston."
In a diesel engine, the injector has to spray fuel in the right way. If the spray pattern is off, the fuel doesn’t mix well with air and can burn less efficiently.
The “spray pattern” is how a diesel injector distributes fuel into the combustion chamber. A good spray pattern helps fuel atomize into fine droplets, which improves mixing with air and supports more complete combustion.
injector nozzle
"If you've got internal diesel injector deposits that are affecting your spray pattern [457.2s] in your injector nozzle, these diesels, of course, we don't have a spark plug. [462.1s] So it's all about atomizing that fuel, hitting that sweet spot of that piston."
The injector nozzle is the part that actually squirts the fuel into the engine. If it gets dirty, it can spray fuel the wrong way and reduce efficiency.
The “injector nozzle” is the tip of the diesel injector that controls the fuel exit and droplet formation. When deposits form on or inside the nozzle, the injector can’t meter and atomize fuel correctly, which worsens combustion.
spark plug
"If you've got internal diesel injector deposits that are affecting your spray pattern [457.2s] in your injector nozzle, these diesels, of course, we don't have a spark plug. [462.1s] So it's all about atomizing that fuel, hitting that sweet spot of that piston."
A spark plug is what creates the spark that lights the fuel in many gas engines. Diesel engines usually don’t use spark plugs to ignite the fuel.
A “spark plug” is the ignition device used in gasoline engines to ignite the air-fuel mixture. The host contrasts this with diesel engines, which typically ignite fuel via compression rather than a spark.
atomizing that fuel
"So that's dependent on how dirty your fuel system is. [452.6s] If you've got internal diesel injector deposits that are affecting your spray pattern [457.2s] in your injector nozzle, these diesels, of course, we don't have a spark plug. [462.1s] So it's all about atomizing that fuel, hitting that sweet spot of that piston."
Atomizing means turning fuel into a fine mist. Diesels rely on that mist mixing with air so it can burn properly without a spark plug.
“Atomizing that fuel” means breaking liquid diesel into very small droplets. In a diesel engine, that droplet size and distribution are critical because there’s no spark plug—combustion depends on the right mixture forming and igniting under compression.
CP4s
"Well, when these injectors get dirty, when the fuel system gets dirty, [476.1s] it starts to affect the spray pattern. [478.2s] Like once again, you're not going to get a complete burn of that fuel that's spraying on [482.0s] top of that piston. [483.7s] So those are your two big winners. [486.4s] Now I'd argue lubricity. [488.1s] Lubricity is mainly like, you know, for protection of our CP4s and, you know, [492.1s] you know, lubricating the fuel system."
CP4s are a type of high-pressure fuel pump found on many diesel engines. Diesel fuel has to lubricate that pump; if the fuel is too “dry,” the pump can wear out faster.
“CP4s” refers to the CP4 high-pressure fuel pump used on many modern diesel engines. The host is saying lubricity matters because the CP4 pump relies on fuel as a lubricant; poor lubricity can increase wear and damage risk.
lubricity
"Now I'd argue lubricity. [488.1s] Lubricity is mainly like, you know, for protection of our CP4s and, you know, [492.1s] you know, lubricating the fuel system. [493.7s] But there is a benefit of an upper cylinder lubricant too."
Lubricity is how well the fuel can act like a lubricant. In a diesel, the fuel helps protect the high-pressure pump from wearing out.
“Lubricity” is how well a fuel lubricates moving parts in the fuel system. In diesels, lubricity is especially important for high-pressure components like the CP4 pump, because the pump depends on fuel to reduce friction and wear.
upper cylinder lubricant
"Lubricity is mainly like, you know, for protection of our CP4s and, you know, [492.1s] you know, lubricating the fuel system. [493.7s] But there is a benefit of an upper cylinder lubricant too. [496.4s] So it's just, you know, the resistance of that fuel side of your cylinder"
This is an additive meant to help lubricate the top part of the engine where the piston and rings move. The idea is to reduce friction and wear, and it may help efficiency a little.
An “upper cylinder lubricant” is an additive intended to improve lubrication in the upper part of the engine where the piston, rings, and cylinder walls interact. The host claims it can help the ring ride and reduce wear, though they describe the efficiency gains as small.
ring ride a little better
"So it's just, you know, the resistance of that fuel side of your cylinder [500.7s] by lubricating it, it helps the ring ride a little better. [503.8s] It's minimal gains, but they all count."
Piston rings help seal the combustion chamber. If lubrication is better, the rings can move more smoothly and seal more effectively, which can help the engine run a bit more efficiently.
“Ring ride a little better” refers to how piston rings move and seal against the cylinder wall. Better lubrication can reduce friction and help the rings maintain their sealing function, which can slightly improve efficiency and combustion behavior.
restoring that mile per gallon to what that system started at as new
"Well, chances are one of your truck was more dirty. [519.7s] So one of them had more to clean out and return. [522.5s] So we're not inventing new mile per gallon. [524.9s] We're just restoring that mile per gallon to what that system started at as new."
The claim here is that as a diesel gets dirty, it can use more fuel. Cleaning and additives might help it burn fuel more efficiently again, so mileage can improve toward how it was when the system was new.
The host is describing a concept where fuel system cleaning and additive use can recover fuel economy that has degraded over time. The idea is that deposits and wear reduce combustion efficiency, and restoring the system can bring mpg back toward its original baseline.
injectors
"they probably got really clean injectors if they stay on top of it. So they're not going to see any more gain out of the injector cleaner. It's just going to keep them clean."
In a diesel engine, injectors are the parts that spray fuel into the cylinders. If they get dirty, the fuel spray can become less accurate, which can reduce efficiency. The cleaner is meant to help the injectors spray properly again.
Diesel injectors are the fuel-delivery nozzles that meter and spray diesel into the engine’s cylinders. If they’re dirty or partially clogged, the spray pattern and timing can degrade, which hurts efficiency and power. Injector cleaner is being discussed here as a way to restore injector performance.
152,000 miles
"and may have bought a used, used diesel truck, you know, that had 152,000 miles on it. Who knows how the previous owner, you know, did for maintenance. Well, they're going to see a huge gain right off the bat"
They’re using mileage as a clue about how much wear or buildup the truck might have. If a used diesel has a lot of miles and you don’t know how well it was maintained, it may have more deposits. That’s why the cleaner could show a bigger improvement at first.
The hosts use mileage as a proxy for how dirty a used diesel truck’s fuel system might be. They suggest that a higher-mileage truck with unknown maintenance history is more likely to benefit from injector cleaning because deposits may have accumulated. It’s not a technical spec, but it’s part of the argument about when gains are expected.
lost economy
"It's really on those two aspects of restoring lost economy and then improving the fuel sea tane content. So you get a better burn of it."
“Lost economy” means reduced fuel economy (miles per gallon or similar) compared to what the vehicle should achieve. The segment argues that injector cleaning can restore some of that lost efficiency by removing deposits that interfere with proper fuel delivery and combustion. It’s presented as one of two main mechanisms behind the product’s gains.
fuel sea tane content
"It's really on those two aspects of restoring lost economy and then improving the fuel sea tane content. So you get a better burn of it."
Diesel cetane is a measure of how easily the fuel lights off inside a diesel engine. If it’s higher, the fuel tends to burn more smoothly. That can improve efficiency because the engine gets more complete combustion.
“Sea tane” here refers to diesel cetane content (cetane number), which describes how readily diesel fuel ignites under compression. Higher cetane generally helps the fuel burn more smoothly and completely, improving combustion efficiency and reducing issues like rough running. The hosts connect cetane improvement to “a better burn.”
hotshot products
"Verse somebody who runs hotshot products and has for 10 years or 5 years or ever long, they've had that truck."
“Hotshot products” refers to a product line/usage context aimed at hotshot trucking—owner-operators running time-sensitive loads. The host uses it to contrast drivers who already maintain their trucks with additives versus those who don’t.
fuel system
"What's the quality or what's the standard of your fuel system now? Let's get it clean."
Your fuel system is everything that gets diesel from the tank to the engine. If it gets dirty or contaminated, the engine can run worse, so cleaning it can help.
The fuel system is the set of components that store, filter, and deliver diesel to the engine—especially the parts that handle fuel cleanliness and flow. When the host says “get it clean,” they’re referring to removing deposits and contamination that can affect injectors and overall combustion.
Chevrolet C10
"...helped me follow the process when we talked about C10, and that's where the gain itself is happening. D..."
The Chevrolet C10 is a pickup truck made by Chevrolet. People talk about it a lot because it’s a common older truck that’s used for work and sometimes modified. In this podcast context, it’s likely being used as an example of where improvements to the fuel system can make a noticeable difference.
The Chevrolet C10 is a classic full-size pickup truck from Chevrolet’s C/K lineup, best known for its simple, durable design and wide availability in many configurations. It often comes up in discussions because it represents the kind of truck platforms people modify and maintain for long-term use. In a diesel-focused conversation, it may be referenced as a baseline vehicle where fuel-system changes or performance gains show up during the process.
C10 booster
"Then it helped me follow the process when we talked about C10, and that's where the gain itself is happening. ... We got the C10 booster, the injector cleaner, the lubricity, water demulsifier, rust inhibitor, and a fuel stabilizer."
“C10” here refers to a specific additive package/component the host calls out as the main driver of the “gain” during cleaning. The host later lists it as part of the formula, implying it’s a concentrated injector-cleaning booster used to improve fuel-system cleanliness.
diesel extreme
"How we recommend our products, our diesel extreme and our everyday diesel treatment, they both have the same six components in it."
“Diesel Extreme” is the brand name of a diesel additive the host sells/uses as a “deep heavy duty cleaner.” The host claims it uses the same six-component formula as their other product, but with a higher injector-cleaner concentration (up to EPA limits).
everyday diesel treatment
"How we recommend our products, our diesel extreme and our everyday diesel treatment, they both have the same six components in it."
“Everyday Diesel Treatment” is the brand name of a more frequent-use diesel additive the host positions as a “keep clean” approach. The host says it uses the same six components as “Diesel Extreme,” but with the injector-cleaner “dialed down” to a maintenance level.
water demulsifier
"We got the C10 booster, the injector cleaner, the lubricity, water demulsifier, rust inhibitor, and a fuel stabilizer."
A water demulsifier is an additive that helps separate water from diesel so it can be managed by filtration rather than circulating through the fuel system. Water contamination can contribute to corrosion and poor combustion.
fuel stabilizer
"We got the C10 booster, the injector cleaner, the lubricity, water demulsifier, rust inhibitor, and a fuel stabilizer."
A fuel stabilizer helps slow down fuel degradation over time, which can reduce issues like varnish and gum formation. This is particularly relevant for vehicles that sit for long periods or for fuel that’s stored before use.
rust inhibitor
"We got the C10 booster, the injector cleaner, the lubricity, water demulsifier, rust inhibitor, and a fuel stabilizer."
A rust inhibitor is a chemical additive that helps prevent corrosion of metal surfaces in the fuel system. Diesel fuel can carry contaminants (including water), and corrosion risk increases when those conditions exist.
EPA
"on the diesel extreme, we crank up the injector cleaner literally to where the EPA stops us."
The EPA is the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which sets regulations for fuel and emissions-related limits. Here, the host claims their “diesel extreme” increases injector cleaner up to the point where the EPA stops them—meaning there are regulatory caps on additive strength.
once every 6,000 miles
"The diesel extreme is your deep heavy duty cleaner that we recommend using it once every 6,000 miles."
“Once every 6,000 miles” is the recommended service interval for using the host’s “diesel extreme” additive. The key point is that the host frames additive use as a maintenance schedule tied to how quickly deposits build up in the fuel system.
deep system clean
"we still recommend those people do a deep system clean every 6,000 miles. To your question, if you haven't done anything and you're already at 6,000 miles and it hasn't been cleaned at all,"
A deep system clean is a stronger cleaning approach than just using a small additive every tank. It’s meant to clear out buildup that can accumulate in the fuel system.
A deep system clean is a more intensive cleaning interval for a diesel’s fuel system beyond regular “in-tank” additive use. The goal is to remove heavier deposits that can build up in injectors and related passages over time.
percentage gain
"everything works on percentage gain, right? And so if you can get a little bit of gain, well, 3% of $3 gallon is not as pricey as a 3% of a $7 gallon."
Percentage gain means the improvement is measured as a percent. If fuel prices are higher, the same percent improvement can save you more money in real dollars.
Percentage gain is the idea that an additive’s benefit is expressed as a percent improvement (for example, cost savings or efficiency). The host’s point is that the same percent improvement saves more dollars when fuel is expensive.
cost per treat
"So people don't look at cost per treat as much as they should when shopping for fuel additives."
Cost per treat means “what it costs to treat a certain amount of fuel.” Two bottles can have different prices, but the cheaper one might actually do more per dollar.
Cost per treat is a shopping metric that compares how much a product costs relative to how many fuel “treatments” it provides. It’s usually more meaningful than comparing sticker price because different bottles cover different quantities of fuel.
EDT
"So the cost to treat a gallon of fuel with EDT is five cents. So that's the number you got to remember. Five cents per gallon, which right off the bat, to me is like crazy, like that everybody in the world doesn't use a fuel additive, you know, on the gasoline side, you see premium fuels that are 30, 40, 50, 60 cents more."
EDT is the name of the fuel additive/treatment product the host is talking about. They’re saying it only costs a tiny amount per gallon of diesel, and that cost might be recovered if it helps your truck use less fuel.
EDT is the specific fuel-treatment product being discussed, priced and dosed per gallon of fuel. The host uses EDT’s per-gallon treatment cost (about five cents per gallon) to argue the added cost is small compared with the potential savings from improved efficiency.
fuel economy improvement
"Now, when we look at that, that 3% and the cost to treat, how does that work out for like, I mean, the fuel economy side? Like, what's the math on that part of it? Once we, once we factor in a 3% fuel economy improvement?"
Fuel economy improvement means your truck goes farther on the same amount of diesel. The host uses a simple example: if you improve efficiency by 3%, you burn less fuel for the same driving work, so you save money—if the additive cost is less than the savings.
Fuel economy improvement here means the truck uses less fuel to do the same amount of work, expressed as a percentage gain (the host uses 3%). The segment then converts that percentage into a gallons-per-fill savings and compares it to the additive’s treatment cost.
3% efficiency bump
"A 3% efficiency bump means that you're going to be using 3% less of that fuel to do the same work. 3% of 30 gallons breaks down to 0.9 gallons. So if you can have a 3% increase in efficiency, you will get the same work done that it used to take you 30 gallons to do."
The “3% efficiency bump” is the claim that the truck will waste 3% less fuel. The host turns that into a real-world example: with a 30-gallon fill, 3% is 0.9 gallons saved, which becomes dollars saved at $6 per gallon.
A “3% efficiency bump” is a claimed reduction in fuel consumption by 3% for the same task. The host models it by taking a 30-gallon tank, calculating 3% of 30 gallons (0.9 gallons), and treating that as the amount saved per fill at a given fuel price.
water dispersion
"if it's at $3 a gallon, like I get the benefits of lubricity and of sea tane and water dispersion and all those other things."
Water dispersion means the additive helps spread water out instead of letting it collect. That matters because water in diesel can cause trouble for the fuel system.
Water dispersion refers to fuel additives’ ability to keep water from pooling in the tank or fuel system by breaking it up and distributing it. In diesel use, managing water matters because free water can contribute to corrosion and fuel-system problems.
mileage gain
"Let's go super conservative. Let's go the complete opposite way. Let's say you're just trying to get 1% mileage gain."
Mileage gain means you’re getting a little more distance out of the same amount of fuel. They’re using a small 1% improvement to estimate whether it’s actually worth paying for.
A “mileage gain” is the percentage improvement in fuel economy after using a product or changing a variable. The hosts run the math using a conservative 1% gain to show how small MPG changes translate into dollars saved at high fuel prices.
efficiency gain
"So let's run the same math on a 1% efficiency gain. Again, the fuel is going to be 180 bucks, 30 gallons at 6 bucks."
Efficiency gain means the engine uses less fuel for the same driving. They’re showing how even a small improvement (like 1%) can add up to real money over time.
An efficiency gain is an improvement in how much energy the engine turns into useful work, usually reflected as better fuel economy. In this segment, they translate a small percentage gain into gallons saved and dollars saved over a tank’s worth of fuel.
dirty system
"if you have a dirty system and you're cleaning it out with an injector cleaner, to try to get 1% gain is you're going to see it instantly."
A “dirty system” means the fuel system has buildup inside it. That buildup can make the injectors spray fuel less effectively, which can hurt fuel economy.
A “dirty system” in this context means fuel system deposits—especially on injectors—that can disrupt fuel delivery and combustion. The hosts are linking those deposits to reduced efficiency and claiming an additive can restore performance.
C-tane
"Clean system, depending on how low that C-tane is, we're going to get the C-tane up so you get a better, better burn."
Cetane is a diesel fuel quality that affects how easily the fuel lights off in the engine. Better cetane can help the engine burn fuel more smoothly and efficiently.
“C-tane” here refers to cetane, a diesel fuel property that affects how easily the fuel ignites under compression. Higher cetane generally helps diesel engines burn more completely and consistently, which can improve efficiency and reduce issues from poor combustion.
cetane
"...nationwide kind of average of 40. But you can have a brand new truck... You put 40 C-tane fuel in there. You're not going to be able to burn all that fuel... C-tane starts to top out once you get up to the upper 40s and into the 50s..."
Cetane is a number that tells you how readily diesel fuel will start burning in a diesel engine. Higher cetane can help the engine use the fuel better, but the improvement gets smaller once you’re already in the high range.
Cetane is the diesel-fuel ignition quality metric (cetane number). In the segment, the host links higher cetane to better combustion efficiency and claims that diesel systems can’t fully exploit low cetane (like 40) to reach the same efficiency as higher-cetane fuel. They also describe a diminishing-return curve where gains flatten in the upper 40s into the 50s.
diminishing return curve
"...It's a diminishing return curve there. C-tane starts to top out once you get up to the upper 40s and into the 50s..."
“Diminishing returns” means that after a certain point, improving something gives smaller and smaller benefits. Here, the host says higher cetane helps at first, but once it’s already high, you don’t get much extra efficiency for the extra cost.
A “diminishing return curve” means each additional unit of cetane produces less and less improvement in efficiency. In this segment, the host claims cetane gains flatten once fuel reaches the upper 40s into the 50s, so the extra cost of higher-cetane fuel may not be worth it for most drivers. They estimate only very optimized setups might see around ~1% gains.
hot shot trucks
"If they're hot shot trucks using it for construction, you're traveling. And you just for however long these high fuel prices exist, that just adds up every single time that you're fueling."
“Hot shot trucks” are trucks used for fast, time-sensitive deliveries. Because they drive a lot and fuel often, even small differences in fuel cost or fuel economy can add up.
“Hot shot trucks” are smaller, time-sensitive freight trucks (often owner-operators) used to haul loads quickly, typically over shorter distances than long-haul rigs. The host uses them as an example of high-utilization trucking where fuel-cost differences add up quickly over many fueling events. The key point is that small fuel-economy changes can matter more when the truck is used intensely.
break even point
"Using our example earlier, [1756.1s] on the 18 mile per gallon average, the break even point was 18.15 mile per gallon, [1763.1s] literally just from 18.0 to 18.15. Boom, you got your money back already."
Break-even means “when you’ve saved enough money to cover the extra cost.” Here, they’re saying a tiny improvement in fuel economy can pay for the additive/treatment pretty fast.
The break-even point is the fuel-economy improvement level where the extra cost of the fuel treatment is fully paid back by the fuel savings. In the segment, they compute it as a small MPG change (from 18.0 to 18.15 MPG) that quickly recoups the treatment cost.
MPG
"Using our example earlier, [1756.1s] on the 18 mile per gallon average, the break even point was 18.15 mile per gallon, [1763.1s] literally just from 18.0 to 18.15."
MPG (miles per gallon) is a measure of fuel efficiency: how many miles a vehicle can travel using one gallon of fuel. The segment uses MPG improvement to estimate how many gallons are saved and how quickly the treatment cost is recovered.
heavy duty
"So, so yeah, the percentage is easier to get on like an 1815 to 18, you know, a standard light duty, [1775.8s] heavy duty kind of truck versus a big rig that's getting eight to 10 mile per gallon..."
Heavy-duty trucks are the bigger work trucks that usually burn more fuel than smaller vehicles. Because they use more fuel, even small efficiency changes can add up.
“Heavy duty” refers to larger, work-focused trucks that typically have different operating conditions and fuel consumption than lighter “light duty” vehicles. The host uses this distinction to explain why the percentage savings and break-even math can be easier to reach on certain truck types.
big rig
"So, so yeah, the percentage is easier to get on like an 1815 to 18, you know, a standard light duty, [1775.8s] heavy duty kind of truck versus a big rig that's getting eight to 10 mile per gallon..."
A big rig is a large commercial semi-truck. Since it usually gets lower MPG, changes in efficiency can translate into bigger dollar savings over distance.
“Big rig” is a common term for a heavy commercial semi-truck used for long-haul freight. The segment contrasts big-rig MPG (about 8–10 MPG) with lighter work trucks to show how fuel savings scale with baseline efficiency.
compound over time
"So, so yeah, the compound over time is where you start to really see it. But let's take a [1788.2s] regular truck, work truck and crunch it over a month."
Compounding just means the savings add up repeatedly. If you keep getting better mileage every month, the total money saved grows the longer you run it.
“Compound over time” means the savings keep accumulating month after month, so the total benefit grows as you repeat the improved fuel economy. The host contrasts a quick break-even with longer-term totals over a 3000-mile month and beyond.
treat the fuel
"Go do the math on the products that you're looking to use. See what it costs, see how many gallons it treats."
“Treat the fuel” just means adding the additive in the right amount. After that, it mixes with your fuel for the additive’s intended effect.
“Treat the fuel” means adding the additive at the recommended dosage so it mixes with the fuel and performs its intended cleaning or combustion-support function. The speaker ties this to a calculation of how many gallons the additive will cover.
DFC diesel
"DFC diesel is a sponsor of the podcast. We worked with them, you know, hand in hand on doing episodes, answering technical questions."
DFC diesel is the company sponsoring the show. They sell rebuilt diesel engines for truck owners who need a replacement engine fast or want something that fits their towing/custom setup.
DFC diesel is presented as the podcast sponsor and a remanufactured-diesel-engine supplier. The hosts frame it as a solution for people who need a diesel engine quickly or need specific non-stock configurations for towing or custom builds.
remanufactured engines
"They have a complete lineup of Cummins, Duramax and Powerstroke remanufactured engines that are set to a standard of ISO 9001 2015 standards, which is a huge deal in the aftermarket."
A remanufactured engine is a used engine that gets taken apart, checked, and rebuilt with new or refurbished parts. The idea is to get a replacement that’s closer to “like-new” than just swapping in an unknown used motor.
Remanufactured engines are rebuilt using inspected components, with worn parts replaced and the engine assembled to meet defined quality criteria. In this segment, the hosts contrast remanufactured options with waiting for OEM parts or buying a “stock” replacement that may not fit a truck’s towing or non-stock needs.
ISO 9001 2015
"They have a complete lineup of Cummins, Duramax and Powerstroke remanufactured engines that are set to a standard of ISO 9001 2015 standards, which is a huge deal in the aftermarket."
ISO 9001:2015 is a recognized quality standard that companies use to prove they follow consistent manufacturing and testing procedures. The hosts are saying this helps ensure rebuilt engines are made with more predictable quality.
ISO 9001:2015 is a quality-management standard that requires documented processes and consistent production controls. Here, the hosts use it to claim that DFC diesel’s remanufactured engines follow a formal quality system, which matters in the aftermarket where consistency can vary.
warranty
"So you know, when you get one of those engines, the type of quality that's built behind it with an industry leading warranty, that's really comprehensive."
A warranty is the guarantee that if something goes wrong within a set time/mileage, the company will help pay to fix it. They’re saying these rebuilt engines include strong warranty coverage.
In an automotive context, a warranty is the promise that the seller will cover certain failures for a defined period or mileage. The hosts emphasize that the remanufactured engines come with an “industry leading” and “comprehensive” warranty, which is meant to reduce risk compared to buying an engine without strong coverage.
core street tow haul
"So there's a bunch of different series of engines that they have from core street tow haul and also the speed of air series, which we've covered on the podcast before."
This is basically a menu of different engine build “levels” for different jobs. The hosts are saying you can choose a setup aimed at normal driving, or one meant to handle towing and heavy use.
“Core / street / tow / haul” describes different engine build levels or intended use categories, from everyday driving to heavy towing. The hosts use it to explain that DFC diesel offers multiple series so buyers can match the engine’s durability and calibration to how they actually use the truck.
speed of air pistons
"Also, they're working with speed of air pistons, which it's the only piston that pays for itself. And there's a lot of really cool technology behind it."
Speed of Air pistons are a specific type of piston upgrade. The hosts are saying these pistons can improve how the engine runs—like better fuel economy and stronger output—so the upgrade can be worth the cost.
“Speed of Air pistons” is a specific piston product line being promoted as a technology add-on for diesel builds. The hosts claim it’s the “only piston that pays for itself,” tying the pistons to improved fuel economy, power, torque, and engine life.
torque
"So you can add that into your build and be able to get better fuel economy, you know, increased power, increased torque and better engine life out of it."
Torque is the engine’s pulling strength. Higher torque usually helps a truck move heavy loads more easily, especially when towing.
Torque is the twisting force an engine produces, and it strongly affects how easily a truck accelerates and how well it pulls under load. The hosts list increased torque as one of the benefits of the piston and build options they’re discussing.
lead times
"some of the most common engine applications or series of engines that they have with that lead time, a lot of them are in stock or they have really short lead times."
Lead time is how long you have to wait after you order something until it shows up. They’re saying a lot of their engines are ready to ship quickly.
Lead time is the delay between ordering an engine/parts and receiving them. The hosts emphasize that many of DFC diesel’s engine applications are in stock or have short lead times, which is a practical concern when a truck is down or used for towing.
rods
"If you have questions, maybe you want to do, you know, something that's outside of the normal series of engines, they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
Rods (connecting rods) are the parts that link the pistons to the crankshaft. Upgrading them can help an engine handle more stress, especially in towing or higher-power builds.
“Rods” here refers to connecting rods, which transmit force from the pistons to the crankshaft. The hosts mention choosing different rods as part of customizing an engine build for durability and performance goals.
cranks
"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
The crankshaft is the main rotating part that turns the engine’s motion into usable power. They’re saying you can choose different crank components depending on the build you want.
“Cranks” refers to the crankshaft, the rotating shaft that converts piston up-and-down motion into rotational power. The segment treats crank options as part of selecting a stronger build for specific use cases.
valve train upgrades
"they have tons of choices for rods, cranks, pistons, valve train upgrades, tons of different things."
The valve train controls when the engine’s valves open and close. Upgrading it can help the engine breathe better, which can support more power or durability in demanding use.
The valve train is the system that opens and closes the engine’s intake and exhaust valves, controlling airflow. Upgrading it can support higher engine speeds or improved breathing, which is why it’s mentioned as part of performance-oriented build choices.
Lucid Air
"... diesel fuel. That's why fast fuel systems remove air and vapor up to 99% of water and filters debris d..."
The Lucid Air is an electric car, not a diesel. It doesn’t use diesel fuel, but the podcast is talking about how systems handle air, vapor, and debris. That’s why it may be mentioned as an example of system design and filtration concepts.
The Lucid Air is a modern electric sedan from Lucid Motors, known for its efficiency and long-range focus. It’s significant in a diesel-related podcast only because the conversation is discussing fuel-system concepts like removing air and vapor and filtering debris—topics that relate to how fluids behave in systems. The mention likely ties to the broader idea of controlling contaminants and air in a system to protect performance and reliability.
two microns
"and filters debris down to two microns. This alone can triple the life expectancy of your fuel system"
“Two microns” is how fine the filter is. Smaller micron numbers mean the filter catches tinier particles, which helps keep fuel from gunking up the engine’s fuel parts.
“Two microns” refers to filtration fineness: one micron is one-millionth of a meter. Filtering down to ~2 µm means the system can trap extremely small debris that can otherwise contribute to injector and fuel-system wear or clogging.
stabilize the fuel
"You can only stabilize the fuel so much. Enough water does most fire, does the job, more doesn't have any more water to deal with."
Fuel can slowly break down while it sits. “Stabilize the fuel” means adding something to slow that breakdown, but there’s only so much improvement you can get.
To “stabilize the fuel” means using chemistry to slow fuel degradation over time (for example, oxidation and gum/sludge formation). The segment claims there’s a practical limit: once enough stabilization is achieved, adding more doesn’t keep improving results.
Hot Shots brand
"What's unique about the Hot Shots brand is that we engineer it right at that curve so that"
They’re talking about Hot Shots, a brand that sells diesel fuel treatments. The claim is that their formula is designed so you get the main benefits without needing to add extra.
The “Hot Shots brand” is referenced as a diesel additive maker that claims its formulations are engineered to match the point where additional dosing stops producing extra gains. The speaker contrasts this with the idea that “more additive” automatically equals more benefit.
CP4 pump
"We have a rust inhibitor in here to prevent oxidation inside the system. You're protecting that CP4 pump."
The CP4 pump is the part that pressurizes diesel fuel so the engine can inject it correctly. If the fuel isn’t right, that pump can wear out or fail, so protecting it matters.
The “CP4 pump” refers to a high-pressure fuel pump used on many modern diesel engines. It’s a critical component for delivering fuel at very high pressure to the injectors, and it’s known to be sensitive to fuel quality and contamination.
emission systems
"And we know these emission systems, like the way I, the way I describe them is they've got so many regions in them. So use them slowly, like the less you can region will be the"
Emission systems are the parts on a diesel that clean up exhaust after the engine burns the fuel. The way the truck runs can affect how hard those parts have to work to control pollution.
“Emission systems” refers to the set of aftertreatment components that reduce pollutants after combustion, such as filters and other exhaust-treatment hardware. The speaker emphasizes that these systems have multiple “regions”/stages and that operating conditions affect how they manage soot and other byproducts.
water emulsifier
"Water emulsifier, huge. That's becoming a more and more big issue with all of the bio that's in the field... There's a water emulsifier that shocks the fuel and drops the water out of solution."
A water emulsifier is an additive meant to deal with water that gets into diesel fuel. The host says it helps separate that water so it can be removed, which also helps stop problems like algae. It also matters because water can make the fuel less slippery and increase wear.
A “water emulsifier” is a fuel additive that helps separate or manage water contamination in diesel. In this segment, the host says it “shocks” the fuel and drops water out of solution, enabling moisture removal and helping prevent algae growth. The host also connects water contamination to reduced lubricity and increased wear on fuel-system components like the CP4 pump.
algae
"So that gets in the system. You get water in the system. It allows for algae to start to grow. You don't want that to start to grow because then you have to go to a microbiome site to get out of there."
Algae can grow in diesel when water gets into the fuel. The host is saying it’s a big problem because it can be hard to get rid of once it starts. Preventing water contamination helps prevent algae.
In diesel fuel systems, algae can grow when water contamination is present, especially with bio-based components in the fuel. The host calls it a “nightmare” because it can require specialized remediation to remove biological growth from the fuel system. This segment frames algae prevention as part of moisture control via additives.
oxidize
"We've also talked in the past, I believe, about how quick diesel fuel can start to oxidize in 30 days. So what happens when the fuel starts to oxidize?"
Oxidize here means the diesel fuel slowly “ages” and changes chemically over time. The host says it can start happening in as little as about a month, and by the time fuel reaches the pump it may already be partway through that aging. That’s why they talk about using stabilizers.
Diesel fuel oxidation is a chemical aging process where fuel components react over time, potentially leading to deposits and degraded fuel quality. The host claims diesel can start to oxidize in about 30 days, and that fuel is often already around that age by the time it reaches the pump. This is used to argue that fuel additives may help manage freshness and stability.
fuel stabilized
"But it's important to keep the fuel stabilized because as soon as it becomes unstable, everything we just talked about starts to fall out the window."
Fuel stabilization is about keeping diesel from “going bad” as it sits. The speaker says that when fuel degrades, it can lose qualities that help the engine run smoothly and protect the fuel system.
Fuel stabilization means using additives or practices that slow down fuel degradation over time. The host’s point is that once diesel becomes unstable, multiple properties—like cetane and lubricity—can deteriorate, which then affects engine operation and fuel-system health.
anti-gel
"And then one that we didn't really talk about too, but anti-gel, of course, you know, like that that's that's a additive that goes in prevents, you know, the fuel from gelling in the winter."
Anti-gel is an additive that helps diesel keep flowing in winter. Without it, diesel can thicken or gel, which can cause fuel filter clogs and starting problems.
Anti-gel additives help prevent diesel fuel from gelling in cold weather. Diesel can form waxy crystals as temperatures drop, which can clog filters and restrict fuel flow to the engine.
mile per gallon gain
"If we set aside the benefits of the mile per gallon gain, there's value to pay good money to have that value in your truck. Add the MPG gain, even at a 1% gain."
MPG gain means you get better gas mileage. The speaker is saying that if the additive helps even a little, the savings can add up over time.
“MPG gain” refers to improved fuel economy—more miles driven per gallon of diesel. The segment argues that even small percentage improvements can offset the cost of additives, depending on how much you pay per gallon and how often you fill up.
aerodynamic stuff
"And the funny part is they do it all. [2992.6s] Like they do all the aerodynamic stuff. They do all the, the electronic stuff they do."
Aerodynamics is about how easily air moves around the truck. If you reduce air drag, the truck needs less energy to keep going, which can improve fuel economy.
Aerodynamics in trucking refers to reducing drag so the engine has to work less to maintain speed. They mention “aerodynamic stuff” alongside other efficiency measures, implying that small drag reductions can translate into measurable fuel savings over long distances.
engine oil
"We do some crazy stuff with the lubricants that in the engine oil, the transmission fluids, [3004.3s] the gear oils, the hub grease, every type of aerodynamic thing they can do."
Engine oil is what lubricates the moving parts inside the engine. The idea here is that some oils reduce friction, which can help the truck use less fuel.
Engine oil is the lubricant inside the engine that reduces metal-to-metal friction and helps manage heat. This segment treats oil as part of the fuel-economy equation, implying that certain lubricant formulations can reduce internal losses and improve MPG.
electronic stuff
"Like they do all the aerodynamic stuff. They do all the, the electronic stuff they do. [2999.4s] We do some crazy stuff with the lubricants that in the engine oil, the transmission fluids,"
“Electronic stuff” means the truck’s computer-controlled systems that manage how it runs. Better control can help the engine use fuel more efficiently.
“Electronic stuff” likely refers to engine and drivetrain controls (and related calibration) that manage fuel delivery, timing, and shifting to optimize efficiency. In this context, they’re contrasting these high-tech changes with simpler add-on approaches.
transmission fluids
"We do some crazy stuff with the lubricants that in the engine oil, the transmission fluids, [3004.3s] the gear oils, the hub grease, every type of aerodynamic thing they can do."
Transmission fluid is the liquid that keeps the transmission working smoothly. Using the right fluid can reduce friction and help the truck run more efficiently.
Transmission fluid lubricates and transfers power in the gearbox and helps control heat and shifting behavior. They’re including it in a broader “fuel side and oil side” strategy, suggesting that lower-loss fluids can contribute to small efficiency gains.
gear oils
"the transmission fluids, [3004.3s] the gear oils, the hub grease, every type of aerodynamic thing they can do."
Gear oil is the lubricant used in gear-driven parts like differentials. The claim is that better gear oil can reduce friction and help the vehicle use less fuel.
Gear oil is a specialized lubricant for gearboxes and differentials, formulated to handle high pressures and friction. In this segment, they group gear oils with other lubricants as part of efficiency testing that can yield small MPG improvements.
hub grease
"the gear oils, the hub grease, every type of aerodynamic thing they can do. [3014.5s] And if you ask them, because we get interested now because we're focused just on the, on the fuel side and the oil side"
Hub grease lubricates the wheel hub bearings. Less friction there can help the truck run more efficiently over time.
Hub grease is lubricant used in wheel hubs/bearings to reduce friction and wear. They mention it as one of many “oil side” items that can be optimized, implying that even non-obvious friction points can affect long-run efficiency.
cab wind deflector
"you know, when it's like somebody [3050.0s] has this experience and they say, Oh, well, I use this cab wind deflector and I get pretty good [3056.7s] mild gals."
A cab wind deflector is a piece you add to the top/front of a truck cab to help air flow better. It’s meant to reduce drag, which can improve fuel economy a little.
A cab wind deflector is an aerodynamic add-on mounted on the front of a truck cab to redirect airflow and reduce drag. The hosts discuss it as an example of a small efficiency mod that may show modest gains, which can be hard to notice unless you stack multiple improvements.
payback on the same tank
"Well, another guy throws it on. Eh, it's like, I might have saw a little bit. Well, [3061.4s] that guy probably did too, you know, and they all add up and there's only one out there that [3068.6s] will give you the payback on the same tank."
This means the product should save enough fuel money to cover what you paid for it by the time you’re done with that same fill-up. They’re saying most changes are slower to pay back.
“Payback on the same tank” is a practical cost-recovery claim: the fuel savings from an additive or modification should offset its cost before the next fill-up. Here, they contrast it with other tweaks that may produce only tiny gains (like a few tenths of a percent) that take longer to add up.
preventative maintenance
"What I want to do is I want to keep that customer for the long term and do preventative maintenance on that so they don't have problems."
Preventative maintenance means doing scheduled upkeep to prevent problems before they happen. Here, the speaker ties it to keeping customers satisfied long-term by avoiding fuel-system issues that could reduce performance or fuel economy.
additive world
"So I just want to make sure I try to invite those people to the additive world and say, I'm glad you're, you're looking us up now and Lord knows you need it with these fuel prices,"
“Additive world” means fuel additives—products you pour into your diesel to try to make the fuel system run better. The speaker is saying people should consider them when diesel gets expensive.
“Additive world” refers to aftermarket fuel additives—chemicals you add to diesel to try to improve combustion, cleaning, and overall fuel system behavior. The speaker is positioning the additive as a practical response to high diesel prices and as something customers should try.
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