Dive into the UAW Strike, Shelby Automotive Program, and the 2023 GMC Canyon Review
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Dive into the UAW Strike, Shelby Automotive Program, and the 2023 GMC Canyon Review
In Wheel Time Podcast: Your Go-To Automotive Talk Show · Oct 8, 2023
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Welcome to another In-Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In-Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central.
Yes, indeed, it is the In-Wheel Time car talk show, and just ahead we talk to Ron Llewellyn, professor and director of the Shelby Automotive Program at Northeast Texas Community College.
I got to drive the 2023 GMC Canyon.
It's all new, you know.
This is a complete redo and it's nice.
I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Conrad has the cruise-in calendar and this week in auto history and later we'll bring you the stories making automotive news this week.
Just ahead on the In-Wheel Time car talk show, howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars King, conrad DeLong.
We always need more.
Jeff Zekin, go Asteros.
I'm Don Armstrong.
Thanks so much for joining us, and I teased that we were going to have news at the back of the hour.
Well, we're going to start off with that.
Here we go, and Ron's standing by and we're going to get to him in just a second.
But I wanted to give you the very latest that I have on the UAW Strike via automotive news.
Uaw President Sean Fain on Friday cited a major breakthrough with General Motors over compensation for workers at electric vehicle battery plants in choosing not to order more workers onto the picket lines for the first time since the work stoppage began three weeks ago, fain, in his weekly Friday broadcast on Facebook, said GM had agreed to put the battery plants under its master agreement, which would change the future of our union
and the future of our industry.
Shocking Workers at GM's Altium Cells Plants in Ohio, the first of four US battery making locations it's planning, currently receive lower pay than assembly workers.
It was not clear how GM would put battery plants under the master agreement.
I didn't need master agreement, whatever that is.
Most battery plants are being operated by joint ventures with other companies and cannot legally be part of the Detroit three negotiations.
Uaw and GM did not immediately respond to a request for comment by automotive news.
Fain said the achievement justifies the union strategy to strike the Detroit three.
The UAW had planned to strike GM's hugely profitable full size plant in Arlington, texas, had the company not made the last minute concession, he said.
And that's a money maker.
Yeah, big money and the master plan is actually the contract I understand yeah, everybody equally.
So Fain said GM's move made its offer leapfrog the pack, but also noted progress at Ford and Stellantis.
About 25,000 UAW members across the Detroit three are on strike.
Automakers have laid off roughly 4,000 additional workers because of production disruptions.
Strikers are eligible for $500 a week from the UAW strike fund after eight days off work, while the union has said it would also pay laid off workers the equivalent of strike pay.
So that's the very latest on that.
All right, you know we're an automotive show.
Maybe we should be part of that contract.
You think no, no?
If we go on strike, will anybody care?
No, not at all, probably applaud.
Yeah, I was going to say there may be a few people.
We got a few comments out there on YouTube about our discussion of the UAW strike.
Oh, and how we're all wrong and we're absolutely listening, yeah, but we've invited them to come on the show.
Have any of them contacted?
you?
No, because they're not on parole.
No, because I didn't invite them.
And none of them are on parole, cowards.
If you would like to get on the show, all you got to do is just send us an email infoatinwheeltimecom.
I'm not either for or against it.
I don't.
I don't.
Really am not a union kind of guy, but that doesn't mean anything.
No, and I don't.
I don't think we've taken a stance either side.
I think it's just some of the comments and some of the guests that we've had on that are.
You know professors and study those supply side chains.
You know the supply chain to see how things are going to impact other things.
It seems to be where most of the comments.
And in today's society, when you disagree with somebody, you have to try and destroy them, as opposed to just have a calm conversation about people's differences.
We are the educated side of the discussion.
Oh, thank you, the educated side.
What he said.
Okay, well, I talked to a couple of friends of mine at Bowling Green and they said you know, one of the key things to this is the 32 hour work week, because on a 32 hour work week now you still work the same hours but you get an additional eight hours overtime at time and a half pay.
So when your pay goes from $38 an hour to $50 an hour, for the 40% increase that they're asking for, now your time and a half your overtime pay is $75 an hour.
And they said you know that's a pretty key thing to them.
And I'm like, yeah, but don't you think that's going to raise the price of a Corvette?
The guy goes who cares People who pay for a Corvette regardless?
Yeah, but some of the other comments though that I've heard is that it really won't raise the price of a car.
It shouldn't raise the price of a car.
Oh, horse hockey won't raise the price of a car.
Well, I mean just logic is if it costs you more to build it, it's going to cost you more.
But if you're not selling them, then you don't get the overtime because you're not in production, you're not in the building.
You're not building them.
So yeah, there's, there's a catch 22 on that.
Yeah, the interesting thing.
I've got a story later on that apparently GM has the smallest number of cars on the car lots to buy right now.
Days supply, days supply.
As opposed to Stalinas and Ford, they're, as a matter of fact, stalinas is swelling with cars on their lines.
I see Honda's virtually empty, nissan's virtually empty.
where my travels go back and forth, not a lot of cars now for those particular and that's been the case with Honda for a while, because when we went through the pandemic, oh my gosh, yes.
Remember when we all drove out to Baytown and that Honda store was absolutely empty, empty Except for a used cars.
Except for I think they were having the employees park their cars out front.
Yeah, they were.
It looked like somebody was there.
Yeah, yeah, we'll continue that discussion throughout today's show.
Right now we're going to turn our attention to our first guest.
His name is Ron Llewellyn.
He's the Northeast Texas Community College professor and director of the Shelby Automotive Program.
Good morning to you.
Good morning sir, how you fellas doing.
Well, we're doing great, and thanks so much for joining us.
I know that you will wanted to sleep in this morning, probably till noon, but that ain't happen.
I'm a seven o'clock in the morning guy every morning.
Oh, okay, perfect, that's the afternoon.
She did pretty much for us old people.
So I know that mr Mars had an order in what she wanted to talk to you about, things up there and things that you've got going with your program.
So, mr Mars, so we just turn it over to you and let you do your thing.
Well, I find it real interesting that this Shelby automotive program the story behind how, how it came to be, and that kind of goes into the story you have about the last Shelby that you have there.
It's in a museum of some sort.
I saw the green one, that's what I saw.
Yeah, it's in a museum in Pittsburgh, Texas.
Pittsburgh, okay.
Yeah wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait wait, pittsburgh, texas is something just.
Texas.
Where in the world is Pittsburgh Texas?
well, it's about 35, 38 miles north of Tyler.
Okay, okay, so it would be considered in the Arkla Tex.
Yes, sir, okay, I got you.
Not too many people use that term anymore, but I think it's really good, because it's right up there in northeast Texas, up there where oil was discovered.
Anyway, go ahead.
Yeah, so it's in a museum in Pittsburgh, because it Pittsburgh is Like one of the bedroom communities.
Uh is where is where Carol was actually born.
I mean, he lived there until he's 12 or 13 years old.
That's his Texas roots.
That's where he was actually born and raised his childhood.
Okay, well, that kind of makes a connection to to the uh northeast Texas, your community college there, how he was so uh, so involved, how he became so involved with it, and that one in particular.
Yeah, when Carol started the program, uh, it was just a few years before he passed away.
And this story with this last Shelby is, uh, the car was bought and was to be restored by students and a lot of the local shops in Malt Pleasant actually got involved in it, of course.
I mean, you know a show grade, you know restoration of a car done by students.
You know you might not want to see that completely.
So some of the local shops got involved with this, with students help, and this car was the last car purchased and owned and titled to Carol Shelby.
That was a Shelby, so it's a 68 Shelby GT 350 and it's an old Hertz car.
That was a Hertz rental car.
Oh, so it's got that even more added value.
Yeah, so it was uh.
A found in upstate new york and carol actually knew the man that owned the car and he bought the car and had it shipped down here to the school and it was really rough when it got here.
But, uh, uh, uh, there's a shop here, a body shop here in town, hanson's automotive in Malt Pleasant.
That, uh, that did all the paint and body work on it.
They actually changed ownership.
The two guys that were painters in the shop that did the restoration on the car Actually bought the shop here about a year and a half ago and we put the shop on display in their showroom for about it about six months.
I mean to you know, like you know, give them some recognition for the work they've done on this project.
Sure?
Where is northeast texas community college located?
It is the most unique situation for community college that you could imagine.
It's out in farmlands about seven miles outside of Mount Pleasant, texas, and about six and a half to seven miles from Pittsburgh, texas, so it's out in a rural setting.
Well, what we call, you're out in the sticks.
Yeah, we're out in the sticks Okay.
Mr Mars.
So that's kind of how the car got there and how he got involved.
So it's the Shelby Foundation that established the program there at the college and helps keep it going.
So what all does the foundation your automotive program, the Shelby Foundation do there at the school?
Well, they write us a check every year for $50,000 to scholarship our students.
They work out the connections with the Shelby community to us or with us with other entities in the country so that we've got connections with other shops to intern our students.
And to give us help.
I mean, we get a lot of help from different places around the country.
In that museum we're speaking of there's another 68 convertible.
It's a GT 500KR King of the Road, you know, 427 Sidewaller I mean.
This car was restored by a place in Roaring Springs, pennsylvania.
The guy's name is Barry Smith.
He was real good friends with Carol, his shop that he has it's legendary GT in Roaring Springs, right outside of Altoona.
They built two of these cars for us two years ago and donated them to the school.
These cars have been appraised at about $4 million a piece.
We're fixing to put one of these things on the auction block at Barry Jackson in February this year.
Why we're bringing that car out to SEMA?
To get one more shot to the Ford Fanatics at SEMA before we put this thing on the auction block.
So why are you selling it?
Well, I mean the whole idea of this him donating the cars to us.
We're getting recognition for the Shelby name brand, especially the shop.
Like his, the first gen rebuilders of these cars.
They want to put money into scholarship, money for these kids to help them.
We want to try to perpetuate the scholarship thing we've got going on for these kids?
How many students do you have?
So this year the numbers are up.
We've got about 70 students this year.
Wow, Wow.
Up from normally.
What's the normal attendance?
I'm sorry, what is the normal attendance?
It's up from what?
Well, I mean it fluctuates anywhere from 50 to like 60.
But we're actually I'm really surprised this year.
I've been teaching for 21 years this year and this is the first time I've ever seen this in two year program.
We've actually got more sophomores come back this year for a second year.
We have freshmen incoming this year.
It never happens.
So I've got to give kudos to my first year instructor, zach Strawbridge.
I mean, he did a really good job of motivating these kids to want to come back and finish a degree or a two year certificate.
Do you have any kids from the Houston area?
No, I'm sorry, Not at this time.
We don't.
That's a shame.
But maybe we will now that we're on your show.
Oh yeah, Absolutely.
So what is the plan after graduation for your students?
Do you have you know?
Is there a career path that they're intending to follow, or are they just going to go into the general population of automotive technicians?
Well, we try our best to place these kids.
I mean my best and my best intern at that shop, and and and Al Tuna that we spoke of, I've got interns that go to every summer.
I've seen an internship class of either two to six to Shelby American in Las Vegas.
I've got another shop in Dallas, Fort Worth area classic recreations.
We send two to four kids there every summer.
Yeah, so it's a lot more.
It's a lot more than just sitting there working on cars.
There You've got opportunities that go beyond your facility there.
And your students when they graduate?
Do they understand not just the restoration process of classic cars, but do they also understand the uniqueness of the Shelby product?
At?
You know, in 67 here were the engines that were available.
Here's what the differences of the nomenclature meant as far as between GT 350.
Oh yes, and here's the uniqueness about us offering the scholarship money to them we actually give them a class coming in on the history of Shelby and his business and they have to write an essay and explain to us you know the life and the history and the story of Carol Shelby before they can receive any of this money from the Shelby.
Foundation.
Wow, so they got to qualify.
So before we run out of time, we wanted to kind of shift gears.
You've got an event coming up next weekend, a dyno day as part of an open house that you're having there on the campus if anybody wants to come and check things out.
But you're also going to add an EV program there yes there.
So the building was finished this last summer.
I mean we're really fortunate with that EV building.
It's completely conditioned building.
It's about, I think about 40,000 square feet.
It's pretty good.
Yeah, and we're setting this up now we we're in the process of doing a Repower on a 79 cobra.
We've got a 66 first gen that's in the in the whole whole shop for a Repower.
We've got all the stuff from legacy EV in Arizona to do that Conversion on it.
So that's how we're teaching this to these kids is we're repowering these older cars so they can, you know, install all these components, motors, motor controllers and burgers and all into these cars so they kind of get a better idea, I think, of how these things are put together and how they work.
Which is definitely a case that building with this open house and we've got an in-ground chassis Dino it's a dino, jet, dino, okay.
And we we do this at least once or sometimes twice a year we bring in, you know, the local Texas hot rodgers do come in and we put in a viewing area with this guy Big, you know big screen TV, like a 65 inch screen TV, and we set up a stadium seating.
So we bring these cars in, the kids strap these things down and we have like a pee in contest on who can get the best number.
Hey, you don't try to blow up any diesels, do you know?
I think that that's a lot of Diesels and we've had some, some pretty high performance guys coming down this thing.
I think I've seen one making almost 880 horsepower.
Oh geez you know what we need?
An intern.
We, yeah, we need it in that soos.
We, we have the soos down here.
She's taking a nap right now, but I'm thinking that, yeah, an absolute Well, get it, get us going on one of those interns.
Oh, we love to send somebody down there.
I mean.
I've got several kids a real person.
Yeah yeah, it'd be just like jail time yeah.
Yeah, community service, all right so tell us that.
So it's next weekend is the event.
Saturday.
It runs from nine to probably about four.
We've got scheduled to two, but when you're, you're lining these, these cars up to pull them on this dino.
I mean, we usually do anywhere from 30 to 35 cars on a day.
Gotcha, are you full of reservations already?
No, we're not taking reservations.
It's a first-come first serve, I see.
Okay, well, so send some video to Mike.
I was gonna say a little trip up there to let's see if we leave here about five o'clock in the morning.
We should make it up there easy in plenty of time for your nine o'clock start.
Yes, sir, I would love to have some of you folks from down there, That'd be great.
I think I've got a couple from the San Antonio area that they shall be clubbed there.
They've already committed but I haven't heard back from your local club there and those guys.
Randy yeah yeah, what's going on?
but yeah, exactly so, randy, and we'll put you in touch with Ron here and Maybe you could have a contingent.
Of Houston, texas folks go up there we could enroll Randy into his class.
There you go.
Ron, it's great to talk to you, my friend.
Thanks so much for joining us today.
Great info there.
They shall be automotive program at Northeast Texas Community College.
Thank you guys for having me back.
I'd love to come on anytime you guys want, man.
What an exciting program you have.
Yeah, we're all excited about it.
So thanks again and we'll talk to you soon.
Good luck next weekend.
Thanks, fellas.
Thank you, you get some of those conversions done and maybe interesting to get it.
Maybe we could take a little tour of that new shop and see some of this work Exactly well, and and they seem not not just the relationship with Shelby, but they seem to be a little bit on the cutting edge of where hot rodding is going, because they're doing what he calls the Repower, you know, and there's a lot of Builders out there that are adding EVs to classic cars.
Well, he's covering both sides of the fence because he's got the classic hot rods, he's got, he's got, you know, the Shelby.
Now he's introducing the program for EV.
So that's great, that's hopefully he's not taking like a real GT 350 and turning it into an.
EV.
Hopefully it's just kind of like a Mustang that you'd wind up that the Huntsville State Penitentiary real quick, yeah the.
Shelby people.
The purists would be pretty unhappy with that.
I think that they would be.
Okay, mr Mars, you did a good job there.
Well, thank you.
Well, huh, well you know you get to keep an egg up a while.
It's real fine.
We got everyone's know you're being replaced with an intern.
Yeah.
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Okay, type now for this hour's car review.
I got to drive the 2023 GMC Canyon and I forgot to put the available trim levels here, but of course we had the top of the line, as always, the four wheel drive AT4X crew cap.
This is what is considered a small truck.
It's not.
It's a midsize.
And actually it's not much smaller than the trucks of old Drive.
Passengers including the driver.
Exterior changes from last model year.
It's a complete redesign for 2023.
Boy did GM do a great job on that.
Yeah, they did a midcycle refresh on that and it's beautiful.
They really changed the look of the truck.
Exterior features.
Probably, in my opinion, today it would get the best looking award Bulging fenders, big tires with a serious grill.
It's a truck, it's a man's truck.
Yeah, it's a manly man Skid plate up front with red toe hooks, black lower valance handy storage in the lowered tailgate.
Did you see that?
It's a unique feature that I've never seen before because, you know, tailgates generally don't have anything in them.
Yeah, they're hollow.
They're hollow.
They cannot use that little hollow space.
So when you lower the tailgate up toward the actual bed of the truck, on the tailgate there is a compartment that runs the entire width of the tailgate.
Open it up, you can put glove you know baseball gloves in there.
Wet gear, wet shoes maybe things like that.
Yeah, I mean, it's not really thick, Don't get me wrong.
It's a height requirement.
There it's a, but something different, unique it is.
It's pretty cool.
I thought it does have a full-size spare under the bed old school, but I like it.
We don't have to call you know triple A out to have them change the tire to something.
Put the minion yeah, exactly, it has those bumper steps in the back like the big boys, like the big trucks.
Makes sense.
You know why was that not done in the 60s?
Because it just makes sense.
It was on the step sides and that's why they were called step sides.
But that little notch in the bumper is just almost genius for its simplicity.
It had it on the Avalanche.
I never understood why they carried the step side bed into the modern era.
It's old school, that's from way back at the beginning of trucks, that whole step side thing, I think it was just to be different Style, style point or something.
Yes, but it wouldn't waste of space.
It's a waste, anyway, my feeling.
Wasted days and wasted nights.
What could use improvement on this?
Nothing.
Interior highlights awesome dash faux leather accents on the lower dash built in infotainment screen and you know that's a pet peeve of mine when they're not built in.
When they kind of extend out of the top and it's weird like an add on that An afterthought to do Yep.
Awesome seating, both in look and support.
They're comfortable and it works.
Are you driving a new one?
Yes, I got another one.
I got another Canyon.
Apparently they've loaded up our supplier with Canyon truck Canyon, so why did I get it?
That was my question.
Why did I get it?
Why are you giving me another one?
Oh, it's a different trim level and it's amazing the difference in the trim levels between the one that I'm current.
It doesn't have the X on it.
The X signifies that it's really an off-roader.
You know, dual shocks in the back.
I mean, it's got all of the off-road stuff on it.
This one is a mild street version of it and it is definitely different.
I'll tell you about that in my next report, a couple of weeks on this one that I'm driving now.
Anyway, continuing on with this one Awesome seating, as I said, 6040 rear split seat.
It is small and it's the only one available, so don't think that you're going to get a four by eight sheet of plywood back there, because this is not a full-size pickup truck.
But I liked about it.
Passive phone charger Easy, it's all right there, just throw your phone in there and, boom, you're done, because I had a vehicle here last week that I actually had to shove it in there and work it around because my phone was too.
My phone was too big for the slot that it had.
Okay, do you have a cover on your phone?
Yeah, and it was the cover.
Well, who doesn't have a cover on their phone?
Don't tell me you don't know I've got a cover on my phone.
What could use improvement?
The instrumentation display is a little small for my tired old eyes that I have to and squint and not configurable like some of the other new ones are.
No, and it the gas gauge is at about that big.
See my finger about that big.
It's about three quarters three quarters of an inch long and it's very hard to read.
I couldn't tell when it was a quarter of a tank.
So that could use improvement there.
Two point seven liter turbocharged four cylinder engine.
Three hundred ten horsepower, four hundred thirty pound feet of torque, eight speed automatic transmission.
It tows up to six thousand pounds with the four cylinder turbo.
Six thousand pounds, that's actually pretty good.
Yes, because that's kind of the base engine in the full size truck now too, mm, hmm.
Hall rating sixteen hundred forty pounds Miles per gallon.
Sixteen, sixteen and sixteen.
I got seventeen point four over three hundred nine point two miles.
What I liked about it?
Plenty of power for a four banger.
Who would have thunk what could use improvement, not ride and handling.
Well, it's a truck, but the ride is more compliant than most trucks today.
Well, and this is the off road version, so that's surprising, well, but it has, but it has more travel, travel and yeah and those high dollar shocks high dollar shocks big time.
What could use improvement?
I had to dream up something.
So I said air ride suspension.
I don't know why, but I can't think of anything else.
Base trim.
Fifty five, five, that's the base trim price.
Remember, this is the top of the line, the top of the line Canyon Prices tested.
Fifty eight, six, four.
Wow, base model prices.
Thirty six six Competitors its cousin, the Chevy Silver, sorry, chevy Colorado, twenty nine two.
Ford Ranger, twenty nine five, eighty five.
And the Toyota Tacoma twenty nine four, thirty.
And that's my review of the twenty twenty three GMC Canyon.
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About this episode
The latest episode dives into the ongoing UAW strike, highlighting a significant breakthrough with GM regarding worker compensation at electric vehicle battery plants. The discussion also features Ron Llewellyn from Northeast Texas Community College, who shares insights about the Shelby Automotive Program and its unique projects, including the restoration of a rare Shelby GT350. Additionally, a review of the redesigned 2023 GMC Canyon showcases its impressive features and performance, making it a standout in the midsize truck segment.
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Ready for an automotive adventure? Join us as we try to unravel the impacts of the UAW strike with GM and what it could mean for workers and auto industry at large. We're thrilled to have the esteemed Ron Luellen, the man behind the Shelby Automotive Program at Northeast Texas Community College, sharing his insights on the agreement between GM and the union, potential ripple effects on car pricing, and the market dynamics of cars supply. We also take you for a virtual spin in the 2023 GMC Canyon and share some delightful nuggets from Konrad's cruise-in calendar and auto history.
The ride excitement doesn't end there. Ron Luellen takes us on an exclusive journey into the upcoming Shelby Automotive Program's dyno day and the electrifying EV program. Get the lowdown on their new 40,000 square foot EV building, their electrifying plans to repower a '79 cobra and '66 first gen with components from Legacy EV, and their ground-breaking in-ground chassis dyno. Plus, get a sneak peek into their open house, the hunt for an intern, and how to connect with them. We wrap up the journey with an engaging review of the 2003 GMC Canyon AT4x, taking a closer look at its refreshed exterior, standout features and areas that could use a revamp. Buckle up, it's going to be a thrilling ride!
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