Classic car enthusiasts gather at the Hemi Hideout for a special cruise-in event, featuring guests from the Vintage Thunderbirds of Houston. The discussion highlights their philanthropic efforts, including scholarships for automotive students at local colleges. The episode also delves into the unique architecture of the Hemi Hideout, built with a focus on preserving classic car culture. With insights from club members and the facility's builders, listeners gain a deeper appreciation for the community surrounding classic cars and the importance of nurturing future automotive talent.
Topics:classic car philanthropyvintage thunderbirdsautomotive scholarshipsHemi Hideout architecturecommunity eventscar culture preservation
Ever wondered how classic car enthusiasts are inspiring the next generation of technicians? You're in for a treat. Our lively conversation with the Vintage Thunderbirds of Houston puts you in the passenger seat of their annual cruise-in at the Hemi Hideout. We delve into their philanthropic program, discuss their scholarship schemes aimed at fostering fresh talent, and explore the pressing issue of technician shortage in the classic car business. Plus, we touch on the Houston Mecum auction, an innovative venture where the club works at the auction and the proceeds support students' journey to trade colleges via scholorships.
Buckle up as we switch gears and journey to the heart of Texas with Josh Kennedy, the first recruit of the new owners of Texas Timber Frames. He spills the beans on how he turned a 147,000 board feet of Douglas fir and 13 miles of Cyprus tongue and groove into the awe-inspiring Hemi Hideout. We also touch on the hot-button issues of layoffs and strikes in the auto industry, and how they affect the UAW strike fund. It's a thrilling ride, filled with fascinating insights and stories.
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Welcome to another in wheel time podcast, the 30 minute mini version of the in wheel time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central From the fabulous hemi hideout in brookshire, texas.
It's the in wheel time car talk show and coming up.
We got another guest from the hideout along with folks from car clubs attending today's cruise in Conrad.
We'll have the in wheel time car clinic and we'll have this week's auto news Howdy along with Mike.
Out of this will Mars King Conrad along.
We need more.
Jeff Zika, yep, the fabulous David Ainsley.
I'm Don Armstrong.
Thank you so much for joining us on our weekly broadcast.
This is an hour over that we normally do do we get overtime pay?
we do absolutely.
We got overtime pay for this.
Yeah, triple because normally the show is on the air from 8 am Until 11 am.
Well, today, because we're here at the hideout, we thought, yeah, let's just go an extra hour, john won't care, we don't even.
We haven't seen John in a couple of hours.
He's busy.
Yeah, he's, he's a busy boy.
I'm reading guests and telling stories.
Do we have a different camera other than one that's on us?
No we've got one for the.
General general area, so did you show that?
Oh yeah, we're gonna take the remote, do another little walk around for a couple minutes before we get off the air.
And it's not, we are Okay good, it's not like pushing three buttons.
There's nothing like that.
Oh yeah, I know so we're gonna have to get.
We're gonna have to get John.
Oh, here he comes and we'll take him back over here.
There's a lot I want to.
I want to show them that back room back there, and I think there's a more direct.
I think that's where the Dinosaur stuff is dinosaur stuff.
But don't go too deep because we'll lose signal.
Okay, thank you for that.
Appreciate it All, right, mr Morris?
Who's our guest?
Never been told that before?
joining us now?
Yes, with the vintage Thunderbirds of Houston.
Oh, mr D Temple, and they've got quite a group out here.
How are you sir?
I'm doing fine.
Just not used to be on the radio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So so tell us a little bit about the club and your, your event coming out here as a group.
Well, we're the vintage Thunderbirds of Houston.
We've got a 70 members and there's we like coming out here.
Although we're Ford people, this is a fantastic venue.
Yeah, that's incredible Cars out here, the signs, memorabilia, just fantastic.
So we come out here probably once a year as a group.
Yeah yeah, and thoroughly enjoy it.
Okay, how many?
How many people have you got with you?
Because I've seen several there's about.
There's about 20 20 members out here today and a lot of them brought their spouses and but there's about 20 of us here and I think about 15 brought their cars, all sitting up front.
So how often have y'all been coming out here?
We've been out here Probably the last, maybe five over five years We've come out here, maybe once a year.
Yeah, you've seen how it's grown.
Just incredible.
The things that that they find and restore and display in this garage and the restorative, the restoration Process they do out back is is quite fascinating to Work, yeah.
I know we've crossed paths with you guys before you guys have done the Meekum auction.
Yes, we've been that.
Yeah, we work, we work the Meekum auction that comes here every year.
We a lot of behind-the-scenes work dragging the cars, towing the cars and just helping out me come as we can and then you're also involved with Houston Community College.
Well, we take the?
yeah, we do.
We take the proceeds from the MECA auction that that we earned and we plow that back into a scholarship at HCC, the automotive department, and we've we've had a scholarship program out there for the last seven years and we refunded every during the summer for the fall semester.
Recently we just had an ice.
We had an event out there kind of publicizing the our scholarship program.
We brought by, brought an ice cream truck out there and give all the students ice cream, ice cream, and just talk to him about the club and and working in the antique car classic car niche of the, you know, the automotive section right right so besides just a bunch of Thunderbird car guys.
You guys have a pretty good philanthropic program that you're developing well, we do well, we some.
More than developing, it is developed.
And we've also last year started a pilot program at HISD, the Barbara Jordan Career Center, if the automotive program they have out there.
So we've we've started a scholarship out there in and sent in did not?
it's not a lot of money for students but per student that we've helped them go on to trade colleges okay and but anything helps because sometimes it's not necessarily the funding of the scholarship, it's the connection to the other trade colleges that they have an opportunity to go to well that's, that's right.
We try to tell them about the, the career paths in the, in the, in the automotive program, in the.
As you guys know, in the classic car business the shops are few and far between.
There's a lot of backlog, the technicians are dying off, you know, and there not a lot of young people coming into that, into that field.
So we're trying to remind the students that there is a, there's a place for the antique car market in the classic cars and to know what a distributor and set of points are supposed to field injection and and.
Have you ever connected with?
What was the guy from from up northeast the Shelby Place?
What was the name of his school?
escapes me, yeah there's a community college up in, I'm gonna say like the Texarkana area no, well, before we got hooked I don't recognize it before we got hooked up with HCC, we we sent made some contributions to McPherson College up in Kansas.
I believe they have a big they actually will probably one of the only four-year restoration curriculums in the country.
So we gave to them.
But we wanted to spend our money closer to home in the Houston community.
That's what we got involved with HCC at the Barbara Jordan Center yeah, well, both HCC at the high, at the at the community college level.
But to feed that we wanted to go down to the high school level to get into their automotive programs, to feed into the Houston community college yeah all right.
So that's what we we enjoy the cars.
We enjoy these cruises coming out here every month.
We're going somewhere, except in the summer when it's too hot, but it's more than the cars we like to give back to the community.
So what's your Thunderbird of choice?
Six, my personal, my preference is a 65.
I think it's the the best looking car.
I mean, all the Thunderbirds are great.
I just happened to be.
I think the 65 is my favorite and what powertrain is in yours?
it's a 390 automatic, 390, 65 convertible in beautiful car and is that the?
was that the one where they have the tune out cover for the back?
for the.
You can get that for that.
I didn't have it on yeah, cool looking car that have a two-speed automatic in it oh, four, at least four or six, I don't, I don't know okay, I think it's a C6, I think it's a three-speed automatic three-speed okay but the yeah and Thunderbirds.
You know it's a great car.
It's kind of the in its day it was the halo car for Ford as far as kind of their top line of cooped that they offered to the public yeah, and every gadget you could stick on a 65 was I mean was in a 65 power windows, swing away seats, the power top that went down it just for that period of time.
A lot of technology in that car yeah cool and then a lot of expensive things to fix.
Now, 50 years later, that's we all.
We're all well aware, that's for sure.
Hey, thanks so much for stopping by and talking to us.
We appreciate you my pleasure.
We have a good day.
Thank you bye bye Conrad's car clinic.
I think we could squeeze that in if we can keep it short today, because I've got another guest.
I want to get on, if that's okay well, you know, continuing the fluid thought yes, that we've done is a windshield washer solvent.
You know, you got to think.
Windshield washer solvents got to do a number of things.
It's got a clean, but it also has to evaporate.
So windshield washer, that blue fluid, there's actually quite a bit of alcohol in it, there's some detergent in it to help it clean, but there's also going around on a bourbon.
I used it a couple of times works great but there's also quite a bit of alcohol in it.
The purpose of that is so, as you're driving down the highway and you clean your windshield so that everything evaporates out, and if you look at some of the people out there that are making windshield washer solvent, you know you can buy the 99 centigallon stuff, yeah, at the dollar store.
But there's also people that you relate to cleaning glass that sell a much higher price.
Windex sells a windshield washer solvent.
Windex does.
Where do you buy that Walmart?
Walmart, yeah, they pay it.
The Windex brand windshield washer solvent and Rainex also sells a windshield washer solvent.
So when you think of people who are in business to keep your windshields clean, they sell a brand specific solvent that's gonna have their specific properties included in it.
Have you ever used Windex just instead of a wiper?
How they coat it spray it.
Have you ever done that?
I would be really worried about you.
Know, once you wipe it, then the wind blows that across your paint.
Well, but that's why it's got such a high alcohol content.
It evaporates so quick.
It's not really gonna cause any issues.
I could see my paint peeling off in a New York minute with that Place.
Your night is hung over.
Yeah, that is true.
Okay, joining us now in the in wheel time remote studio here at the Hemi Hideout, josh Kennedy, josh, it's good to see you.
I don't believe we've ever met, no, sir, but I understand that.
Pull that microphone up to your mouth if you don't mind.
There you go, like the sports broadcaster that you've always wanted to be.
That's a fact.
And that you were here from the very beginning the erection of this beautiful place yeah, all 22,000 square feet.
What's the name of the company that you worked for at the time?
Well, at the time it was called Texas Timber Frames.
Today it's called Timber Line Group.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's grown quite a bit.
Are you still out of San Antonio?
I am personally.
yes, the company's out of Bernie oh really, yeah, well, still the Hill Country, absolutely, yeah, yeah, so are you a Texas boy?
How did you wind up doing this?
Well, I've been a carpenter since I was a kid.
I actually am from South Boston and I came down here.
Well, you had the wrong accent for that.
Ok, well my last name's Kennedy, so historically not awesome for Kennedys in Texas, so from Massachusetts.
So I got rid of the accent real quick.
And the convertible?
Yeah, absolutely Dropped that off in the river, yeah.
Oh my god.
Yeah, not a big fan of Lincoln's, for sure.
Yeah, um, but yeah.
So I came here via the service.
I was in the Air Force for eight years and, um, texas timber frames was my first job Actually, I interviewed for it six months before I got out and, um, the uh, co owner at the time was a former Air Force pilot, and so, um, yeah, I came working for them as a fabricator and installer.
So, from a carpenter's perspective, let me think.
I think this is a little bit more than what a carpenter would really get into early on in his career.
Yeah, this is not terrible, I mean listen.
I took woodworking one in high school and I flunked.
Okay, yeah, absolutely Well, it's.
It's funny.
So the I worked for the original owner and then I left and then a new group of people from Nebraska bought the company and, um, I was their first hire and at that time they needed sales people and I actually built their sales department.
I was an Army of one at the time and, um, john probably regrets it every day of his life.
I walked in and said I want to build a car barn.
I was like, well, come sit right down.
Well, we're working out for you, yeah and uh, it was the best experience Were you were you, were you part of the design phase of this?
No, I'm too stupid for that, but I did talk him into doing it.
Yeah, but I mean, you have to know quite a bit about this to be able to say, okay, well, we can do this, and this is how much it's going to cost.
How?
much board feed is necessary.
Oh yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
We walked.
He had a very basic design at first and then, uh, he would expand it on it.
Well, we all did it.
Michael Ratliff was the lead designer at the time and um still good friends with John, and John would come and Bill Sites, who's here?
Yes, Um was instrumental in all this design, but one of the key features, like this arch that you see here.
Yes, John came in and said hey, I just bought a.
I just bought a porcupig out of Missouri that was on a car dealership.
We need to alter to the design because I need a place to put that.
So that was the motor.
So, in other words.
So, in other words, part of the building was designed to accommodate that sign.
Yep and specifically he's like it's common and you now you need to make a place in the barn for that when you stand in the midst of this and you look at the size of some of these, I'll call them timbers.
I don't know what the correct phrase is for when do you find that wood?
Well, it comes out of the Northwest.
That's actually Douglas fir, so this is all built out of, basically, christmas trees that are all grown up, but huge Christmas trees.
Yep, I'll give you.
I'll give you some stats that I still remember.
There's 147,000 board feet of timber just in the main structure right here.
That's not including the outsides, which are added.
The the tongue and groove in the ceiling is Cyprus from Louisiana, and there's 13 miles of one by six tongue and groove.
Oh, wow, it took us nine semi trucks and several hot shots that I drove personally to get all these timbers out here.
And there's no nails.
No, no nails, it's all mortise and tenon, like the old style, like from Germany and Dallas and Dallas, yep, wooden, dallas, yep, absolutely.
And man, it's actually today, 12 years ago today.
I'll show you on my phone we sat, we stood up, the first bent, the first section of this facility it came on my Facebook as a memory just this morning, but there it is.
Oh, wow, and what am I looking at there Right there, that first section.
Yep, yep.
And so we laid on the ground, put it all together and we fly it up.
Now.
What you don't see in this picture is John and all his friends were standing or sitting right there with barbecue, yep and drinks and lawn chairs.
Sounds about right, right.
We're going to watch this whole thing go up.
I told my crew chief, I walked over to him and I said oh look, you got an audience.
Don't screw this up.
Because of the design it's actually real weak in the in the middle there.
There's no continuous piece that goes across.
Well, we had a strong back it with an I beam and so now it's standing up.
It's as strong as can be, but to get it from flat to up there was a nerve wracking situation.
It's like, figured, if we can get the first one up, we're going to be all right, fellas Right.
Yeah.
But yeah, he decided to invite half a Brookshire to go watch us put it up.
And I was like Ron, don't screw this up.
Yeah, exactly, it'll be a big trouble.
Yeah, so do you?
You still work for the company.
No, I left in 2017 and went out to the builder and carpenter and try to hit different things, but it's still in contact.
The owner of the company is a dear friend of mine.
And do they still use this?
As a selling tool or as a display tool for the quality of the work that they do 100%.
In fact, the company has expanded significantly since in fact, we they just got done doing the Spurs practice facility in San Antonio, which is all a more modern design.
It's real in right now CLT panels and big glue lamps.
You see a lot of structures.
There's a couple in downtown Houston that they've done.
They're really into that right now, and when I first came in here, clearly there wasn't near as many signs as there is now.
I came in here and you look at it from one end of the other, you think, well, this is a church cathedral 100%.
I told John he said look, you don't buy this.
I'm taking the plans and I'm traveling the country.
I'm selling it to every Catholic church I can, because it's actually a perfect cross, 100 by 200.
And we used to call it the car cathedral, like in the office.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, this could easily, easily have you sold this design to any churches.
No, no, no, no this is this is John's and John's alone, and and we'd never sully the fun time that we had building this.
It was it's funny because we started, like I said, the 21st of October 12 years ago setting it up and the frame.
We finished just before Christmas and everybody came out to look at it and I remember standing right there and just going.
Eat and bark.
You're drinking a beer, oh no.
I walked off fully depressed.
I had to go call a therapist because it was never going to get any better.
Both client design, the fun working with the team, because the company at the time, although it had been around for 15 years, it really had just started the year before when the new ownership bought it.
So we it was.
Everything was very fresh.
What's the time frame from start to finish?
A year for us for our part.
And then John, I think took six, eight months to end Shelly and all their team to bring it to what you see today.
So in the design of it you guys had a scope of how much he was going to hang from it, right?
No idea In fact I told them in the years following.
I said look, john, we, we designed this to take a direct hit from a class three hurricane.
We did not design it to take a direct hit from John you have voided the warranty, my friend with all the stuff you've hung on, but obviously it's certainly capable of holding it all.
Yeah, the structure and the way that it's designed is, as the timbers shrink, it actually gets stronger.
So, yeah, it can withstand the hurricane and John, so it's a lot.
Tell you what such a pleasure to be here next time I'm looking to build one of these.
I'm going to call you.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Or the guys at Timberline they'd be happy to do it.
It's a.
It's a blast.
Well, josh, it's a pleasure to meet you, and thanks so much for stopping by and talking to us today.
You built a beautiful facility, not just me, I mean, I'm the only one talk them into it, but the guys over there just incredible, truly incredible.
Thank you very much, thank you so much we appreciate you.
Yep Time now for Conrad's car clinic.
I'm going to squeeze that in before the end of the show today.
We just did it, we did jump in, I'm sorry.
Yes, I have some more headline.
I know, never mind me.
You know, god Run B.
Shut up Sonility.
Oh, that's said in a long time ago.
General Motors on Tuesday said it's going to push back the launch of the electric pickup production at the Detroit area factory Because nobody's interested 2025, citing electric vehicle demand and the need for engineering upgrades.
The delay in starting output of the Chevy Silverado EV and the GMC Sierra EV at Orion assembly is not related to the ongoing UAW strike, a spokesperson said.
Rather, gm said the move is meant to better manage capital investment while aligning with evolving EV demand.
In other words, it's all.
We're not going to waste our money building EVs when people aren't going to buy them.
The delay in starting electric pickup production at Orion assembly now means the plant could be done for nearly two years.
Wow Ow, that'll make the UAW happy.
Oh yeah, because all those workers are standing on a picket line.
That's right, and UAW's got to pay them $75 a day to do it Correct.
Solanas is abandoning plans to participate in the 2024 CES tech expo at a cost saving move it attributed to the ongoing UAW strike.
They're also, according to Mickey Bly, senior vice president and head of global propulsion systems in Stilanus, told a crowd at an electrification conference Wednesday that the company was continuing to invest in clean up the internal combustion engine as it rolls out electric vehicles.
Stilanus goal is to have EVs account for half of US sales.
Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
Yada yada yada.
Yeah, happened late last year the introduction of the three liter hurricane twin turbo inline six cylinder which makes more power than the bigger, heavier, 6.4
liter Hemi V8.
A high output version of the hurricane makes 520 horsepower, 35 horsepower more than the Hemi V8.
We have more power.
We just can't.
We just haven't released it yet, said Bly.
So if you're a Stilanus dodge, whatever you are, ram fan, there you go.
The straight twin turbo, straight six.
It's going to be a beast, yeah Put it in a hornet.
Well, there there's a possibility, Only if they could time the transmission to work correctly.
Call it a capoeco gold.
A capoeco gold.
Now we, while we're out of there, what Mars?
More horsepower will fix that.
Yeah, always Tub it out, it's a baby.
Detroit three laying on a hundred of additional walk workers in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as the repel effect of UAW's ongoing strike continues.
Now another 1500 and 20 will be unemployed Well, not beyond strike, but they're being laid off, which is different, and I didn't know that there's a difference between being laid off and being on strike.
Yes.
You get laid off.
You don't get nothing.
I got laid off.
Yeah, you got fired.
It was called involuntarily separated, yeah.
Do you still feel that way involuntary separated?
No, I think I've been fine since.
He still has the anxiety though.
Yeah well, we all do.
But think about that the more people that GM Ford and Stalant has put out of work through layoffs, the less money that's going into fund the UAW strike fund.
I think it's all a ploy to deplete the UAW strike fund because all of these strikers they get paid to pick it $500 a week.
Well yeah.
Well, that's what they said so, it was $75 a day but, yeah, 500 a week.
So, and if you look at the amount of vehicles that are on the layouts, on the ground, 60 days and they can sell basically, well, allegedly 60 days, some have 10 days.
Yeah, but so there's 60 days where the car is to sell there.
That means there's 60 days that the factory doesn't necessarily have to put something else out there, matt.
England paging Matt England.
Do not leave the building.
You wait for me.
I'm almost off the air, so you wait.
You can go outside and look, but you cannot leave.
Don't touch Matt England.
You allow, but don't touch.
Don't touch anything.
Look, but don't touch Matt England.
Everything's for sale.
Did you bring your checkbook?
No, the wife's got the checkbook.
Matt England, yeah so anyway, I was just saying that, that's all, it's time now for a quick break, and okay, you hang on.
Three minutes.
Yeah, or so to speak, but we are going to take a quick break and we're going to wrap up today's show right after this.
Okay, okay.
Let me make sure that I hit the right button now B3.
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The original group of Lupe Tortilla restaurants will have you telling your family and friends just what the original recipes mean when it comes to the best fajitas in Southeast Texas.
Founder Stan Holt invites you to visit the original Lupe Tortilla near I-10 and Highway 6.
Here's the original house that inspired the design of all the rest and the original charm that helped make Lupe Tortilla the go-to destination for Houston Tex-Mex.
Speaking of original, nothing can compete with the original lime pepper marinade.
That everyone will agree makes Lupe Tortilla award-winning beef fajitas the best anywhere.
Lupe Tortilla Katie is another location that gives you the same quality and service historians have come to expect at Lupe's.
It's located just off I-10 of the Grand Parkway.
At Kingsland Boulevard in Katie, find yourself an Aggie Land.
Head to the Lupe Tortilla College Station, located just around the corner from Kyle Field.
It's a great place to enjoy those famous frozen margaritas before or after the game.
Head to East, to Louisiana.
Stop in at the Lupe Tortilla in Beaumont.
It too is on I-10, you can't miss it.
The original group of Lupe Tortilla restaurants invites you in for the best Tex-Mex anywhere.
Houston's finest cars are invited to another Gulf Coast Auto Shield car social Saturday December 2nd, and you're invited too.
Show off your personal pride and joy, or just stop in to see the likes of Lucid Lamborghini, porsche, ferrari and more.
Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your one-stop shop for paint, detailing, coatings, window tint, clear bras and wheel repair.
The car social is your opportunity to get a tour of this state-of-the-art facility, located at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
It all takes place Saturday, december 2nd, nine to noon.
This is the perfect opportunity to connect with other car enthusiasts, from BMWs to Bentley's, corvettes to McLaren's.
The car social is a different kind of show.
Talk to the owners.
See Gulf Coast Auto Shield's facility.
You'll be amazed.
Put it on your calendar now.
The Gulf Coast Auto Shield car social Saturday, december 2nd, nine to noon at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
The In Real Time Car Talk Show will be there too.
We'll see you then.
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We hope you join us for another live, award-winning production of the In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show Saturday, october 28, 2023, on all of our In-Wheel Time Car Talk outlets, right here on the Smoke and Mirrors Network.
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