{"version":"1.1.0","producer":"fm.getcarcurious","layer":"official","episode":{"title":"Emergency Podcast: Is The Slate EV Truck's $24,950 Price Real? Is It Good?","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/emergency-podcast-is-the-slate-ev-truck-s-24-950-price-real-is-it-good","audioUrl":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0e62cd0e-2b93-40d8-80de-f7154986f955.mp3","description":"As gearheads, I think we all appreciate the concept of looking under the hood. One of our readers does, too, except he likes looking under the hood of websites. Websites for, say, small EV pickup trucks that everyone desperately wants to know the price of . Yes, I’m talking about Slate, and yes, if you look under the hood of the company’s website, it appears that the price of the entry-level truck has been leaked.I’m not entirely sure if “leaked” is the right word here; it’s in the source code to the web page on Slate Auto’s site titled How To Preorder, and the pricing information in the source code was spotted by a pleasingly nosy Autopian named Dave.Is this real? is it a good price? David Tracy and Jason Torchinsky talk about it."},"annotations":[{"id":426446,"startTime":45.1,"endTime":51.6,"type":"place","title":"Lime Rock Park","url":"/glossary/lime-rock-park","quote":"We do events to the utopian great ones with members. 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