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Engines Roaring: Car Talks, Titanic Secrets, and Recall Alerts
Engines Roaring: Car Talks, Titanic Secrets, and Recall Alerts
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About this episode
Engines Roaring dives into innovative car buying with Drive Down, a new online marketplace aiming to transform the automotive sales experience. The hosts discuss high-temperature cars and share insights on the racing calendar. A notable segment covers the serious issue of hot car deaths, emphasizing prevention strategies for parents and guardians. The episode also touches on recent Ford recalls due to fire risks, providing listeners with essential automotive news. With a mix of humor and expert opinions, this episode is packed with engaging discussions on pressing automotive topics.
Topics:
car buying innovations
hot car deaths
ford recalls
high-temperature cars
racing calendar
automotive news
Are you prepared to get behind the wheel and embark on a journey in car talk? Buckle up as we launch into a 4th of July weekend edition of the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show, celebrating the independence of your car buying process with Drive Down. Witness the revolution in car purchasing as our special guest, Mitch, decodes the mystery behind the top-down pricing approach. We also take a detour into the electrifying world of electric cars and first hand experience with new Kia EV.
As we cruise through the final segment, brace yourself for a gripping discussion about the structural failure of metal under pressure, the adrenaline rush of working in a refinery plant, and Ford Motor Company's recall alert for the 2019 to 2020 Fusion PHEV models. We end on a high note, reminiscing about the monstrous power of a nitro top fuel car, reliving the deafening start-up, and recreating the incredible combustion.
In our feature segment, Jeff Dziekan is talking about ‘hot’ cars, and not the ones you want to drive. We are talking about summer heating up the interior of a vehicle and the damage it can do on several levels.
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from the sugar shack world headquarters.
It's the end well time car talk show.
The company's called drive down and they claim it's an all-new way to buy and sell cars.
We ask questions, jeff has a segment on high-temperature cars, inside Conrad has the racing calendar and the car clinic and later we discuss the stories making auto news headlines.
This week we're sitting in the backyard watching Mars enjoying a Bud Light, drink some free buds and talk about each other.
Invite you to join us on this 4th of July weekend blow-up of the end well time car talk show.
Howdy, along with Mike out of this world Mars down there on his computer.
We need more.
Jeff Zekin, king, conrad, the lawns and I'm gone arms, trying to have you with us.
Yeah, i thought.
Well curveball, it's good to be here.
Steer it up there you get.
Johnny Nash, you just say steer it up.
So it's all good.
Are we ready?
most of ours not yet.
No, we're not ready, okay minor, little faux pas, yeah he's been working on.
We had a computer that crashed this morning and so, for our guests, that is standing by.
Just keep standing by, we're sit by sitting there was hands crossed.
It looks like he's praying he's praying well we can clearly hear us, because he just laughed yeah, well, that's good.
I don't know why we can't hear him, but oh, you can't.
Well, i haven't turned him on yet, but pot them up, let's see.
Okay, let, yeah.
So let's talk to our guest right now, and then I write his name down.
I don't know if I did, it's yeah it's Mitch, sure, yeah, mitch, can you hear us?
he can hear us but we can hear him, have you unmuted yourself, mitch, check and see if you're on, he's not muted it's a system oh more Mars doesn't have all of his buttons pushed over here.
So, mitch, you just stand by.
Buddy, we'll be with you in just a minute, okay, nod?
yes, perfect, thank you not.
Yes, blink three times if you're in distress we're gonna not three times on the ceiling, if you love you go we're gonna do the interview via Morse code we are.
So I'll just give you a little preview, a drive down curated online automotive marketplace revolutionizing the enthusiast car buying experience with this unique top-down pricing approach.
Cleveland based company, founded by two car fanatics, aims to disrupt the traditional car buying and selling process, providing a seamless and transparent experience for both buyers and sellers.
Another disruptor, a disruptor kind of like us well, the you know that's always good because it brings a new point of view to whatever business they're in that they're trying to well, it shakes up the market to you yeah, well, that's good.
You know we have tons of car news and, matter of fact, we've got a whole I got a whole section just for buzz Smith is gonna join us later today.
Good about electrics and, as a matter of fact, this week, i'm just got delivery on Thursday of the Kia EV sick it's a good-looking car from behind at night because it's got that wrap around rear tail light assembly the thing I looked at when you were backing up the driveway.
It's got that one white backup light on the bottom.
That's just not bright enough now.
It's too bright.
It just doesn't fit.
It's just like some ball back there.
To me, anyway, probably what it is just a ball no, it doesn't flow with the design it doesn't flow with the design of the lights and all that.
What you're saying you want there, you want one like the 19.
The Chevy, chevy Impala had the two white lights on either side of the license plate, is that?
what you're looking for something not obtrusive, because it looks, looks.
Yeah, i don't know I'm not in style with the rest of the car exactly, yeah, it only works when it goes in reverse.
You know how?
stylish I am.
Yeah.
No, we can tell by your shirt, shirt you've got on today he's got his fourth of July shirt on.
Thank you, david Pitz.
My son-in-law got me the fireworks hamburgers, hot dogs, ketchup, you catch up from lunch.
You s a that's it, and I'm wearing thank you, doodle and I'm wearing much cuts, much cuts.
Yeah, it's a good one.
I figured you know why not celebrate the dog.
The dog, the sews is over there.
She's not happy, she's laying on the concrete.
Well, here's the problem is because, you know, the air conditioning of systems of every place in the world are really straining to keep it cool.
Now we've had this thing running Uh well for at least uh 14, 16 hours.
Yeah, that's a time yesterday.
In the studio here and, uh, it's just barely acceptable.
So in the three hours of this show that we've got coming up, i can only think that it's going to be re-really straining.
No, just The limit of the clock, the limit you're breathing.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Don't breathe.
Consider yourself on a submarine.
Limit your breathing and we'll be okay.
I'm going to talk about submarines.
You know that thing that imploded at the Titanic.
I think somebody over the screen.
What a waste.
What a waste.
Yeah Well, i think that the guy was way over his head that designed that thing.
There's no way that thing could have ever survived It had been down there 30 times and you know as well as I do all of that even though the metal is probably that thick.
Yeah, but each time it goes down and up, the metal compresses expands presses expands and eventually you get metal fatigue, and that very well may have been what caused its failure?
Yeah, it was.
I'm sure that they'll try to find out exactly what happened.
Well, they found pieces of it.
I think they brought pieces up from the bottom.
Oh, they did including body parts, from what I understand.
I didn't think that there was anything left of them Allegedly Yeah, ouch, what is that?
You know what when?
Mars.
When Mars has scored a victory, here's what Mars does, because he do Okay well, why don't you?
why, don't you put on your headset real headset He's gone.
Now let's talk to him.
He went to the market.
He's not there anymore.
Okay, Mitch, sure.
Can you hear us?
Yes, well good, because I can't hear you.
All right, it's on the computer.
It's on the computer.
We're going to go back.
It's on the computer.
It's on the phone, on the computer then.
So at any rate, we can hear you.
We just need to get it from Mars over here, and then it goes to our ears.
So you'll just give us a few seconds.
We apologize.
We go through this quite frequently on this program.
This is not lately.
Well, it has been a while.
Do what He's putting his never mind.
Okay, keep doing what you're doing over there.
Well, okay, he is there, you go, he's, he's on.
But at any rate, i just that whole thing has fascinated me because I've never heard of such a thing an implosion of, basically, a submarine, and We were talking before we went on the air the mechanical side of it and what happens with the pressures once you go below, well below the surface, because Right here We're at about 15 psi as we live and
breathe, but it doesn't take much to go down, just a few feet and all of a sudden pressures, oh my gosh.
And down there unbelievably.
I think I watched a video.
Guy was explaining the pressure of taking a two by four and putting it across your chest, and The deeper you go the pressure on your chest just with the two by four.
It got too long before you got to the Titanic.
It got to more than 9,000 pounds of pressure on your chest with the two by four.
Wow, Unbelievable.
And the opposite of that isn't going to space because it explodes rather than implodes right, because you're low pressure.
They're higher in altitude.
Yeah, you know one way to Kind of visualize it and people may or may not have visualized this.
You know, you have the old metal.
One gallon square gas can.
Yeah, well, if you empty it out and you set it out in the sun And then cool it off real quick, you'll watch that gas can kind of collapse down.
Well, they were doing stuff like that with train cars, tank train cars.
They were showing how they implode and we sucking the air, the pressure out of it, to show the what happens.
Yeah, I saw a picture of one that had imploded on the face of the earth.
Yeah, well, that's because the pressure inside is lower than the pressure outside, to the point of Metal failure.
Yeah, yeah structural failure.
Yeah, total.
And you think that all the cylinders are built to Hold all of that, not only just the pressure of the liquid inside it creating that force on the outside of it, but With all of what is combustible or that sort of stuff, fumes inside there can increase Exponentially.
Yeah, it's, it's.
I Fascinated by it.
One thing that I could relate to with the car aspect of it is okay, how much pressure can you put on the inside of an engine 60 pounds per square inch and a top fuel dragster?
Yeah, as far as forced air, yeah, forced air supercharger 60 psi, and that doesn't include You're putting it into a 12 to 1 compression piston cylinder itself.
So now you're what 60 times 12 is well, there's other things.
You consider 9600.
There's water grains.
There's 960.
There's, you know, is it Mean sea level, you know?
oh yeah, all that, all of that temperature has a variable as well right and it's it's Pressures that we deal with.
And you know, i don't know how, i'm not certainly an expert at any stretch of the imagination about these Big explosions and stuff that happened over in the ship channel area with all of the refineries over there, but somehow flying around, i'm filming, i'm flying.
I hope you don't get too close exactly, but I will tell you that From my experience inside those plants which is very limited, but you know, when you're in there and the plant is running They are thousands of gallons a minute Running through those pipes the whole thing shakes, yeah, with all of the product that's running through there.
So they have one little hiccup and It could be disastrous quickly, quickly, very quickly, if a valve doesn't open at the right time when they're shifting products around.
I mean it, it's, it's Terrifying if you stop to think about it, but if you're standing there, yeah, all the pipes are shaking and all that Even more terrifying?
Well, no, it's really not, but there are areas that they don't let you go.
Even employees.
They don't let it in there unless they shut that area of the plant down.
It's that dangerous?
Wow, yeah, it's, it's, it's quite.
Intimidating so like walking in the green room.
Here.
It's very, you know it is well, you know, think about it fluid.
They use fluid pressure Like water jet Cutting.
They use water at a you know 15, 16,000 psi to cut metal.
Yes, you know.
So you know, when you focus that pressure on one finite little point, it's pretty easy to use it to to do stuff.
But you know you don't want to have it at that pressure and you not have it under control.
I have him potted up over here, by the way, but I hate to use the word potted up.
That's an old radio term.
It doesn't mean what you think it means.
Radio guy and back then it did.
Yeah, well.
Well, there's that, but a pot is a Is short for potentiometer.
Randy port chitting is watching high.
Randy, and it used to be.
You just turn the knob to Increase volume and that sort of stuff.
What was it?
What's?
what do you call it again?
Potentiometer, potentiometer, it's like a volume button Oh.
Yeah it was a knob Back in the day.
They got some good potentiometer.
Yeah, come for your daughter Chuck.
You're feeling better, I am.
I feel great.
That's good.
Glad to hear that surgery work awesome.
You went to a proctologist for migraines not even.
Ford Motor Company is recalling certain 2019 through 2020 fusion PHEV models For loss of power and fire risks.
Whoops thermal events.
Thermal events owners are advised not to charge their vehicle Until the remedy is completed.
According to a Ford filing with NHTSA, if charged, the battery energy control module might become damaged because of excessive voltage and current flow.
Number of potential vehicles affected 14452.1
.
There have been seven fires and 270 warranty claims.
According to the filing, a remedy for the power loss and fire risk is under development.
Interim letters Notifying owners of the safety risk are expected to be mailed July the 10th.
According to the filing.
I wonder if that's kind of in the same vein when Chevrolet had the bolt Uh for an event and they told people don't park it in your garage and don't drive it.
Yep, just sit it out there in the yard.
Well, that seems to be the first and get the chocolate, marshmallows and graham crackers The first thing that they tell you is don't park it in the garage.
It's like number one, And even not only just General Motors you know there's a house over in first colony not too far from here that uh, clearly there was a garage fire and the garage had a um, a walkway.
A covered walkway that connected the garage to the house went right to the house because it was just a straight furnace pipe right into the house through that.
Yeah.
The entire back of the house and clearly the garage to the ground and, uh, you know, insurance and all that stuff.
It's taken them almost well over a year.
They're just about finished with the repairs, but, my gosh, talk about ruining your life.
Ever been involved in any kind of fire?
No, don't want to.
I did, uh, and here in Houston, when I worked for General Motors, we did uh, i was the person that did the incident investigations, so it was the form was called the 1241.
So somebody said that, hey, my car caught fire in my garage and burned my house.
I was one of the people who went to do the inspection.
And, uh, they had a couple of them here in town and I had to do the inspection.
Not fun, you know.
Not fun for a multitude of reasons.
Not fun just because you have to see the loss and devastation somebody's experienced.
Not fun because while I'm there, i have to ask permission to be there And as soon as you get permission, everybody's attorney shows up.
So every, every note I take, every jot I put down on paper, i have to provide documentation to the plaintiff's attorney because you know it's going to go to a lawsuit.
So it's uh, not fun at all.
And then you know you just got to make sure you write down the facts as you see them and nothing else.
You know, I don't know opinion.
I don't know how many cars are actually in this area of Texas that you would call the Houston area.
I don't know how many millions.
Oh, i would say millions, it's a four.
or five million, yeah, and I will tell you that it's a truly amazing the number of car fires every day in this city.
Most of them happen on the roadway, on the highway, on the car, because car because, yeah, exactly.
And once you know, it takes a while for the fire department to get there because you've already got a backup, so they've got to fight all the traffic to get to the fire and then put it out and buy that time And most of the time the at least I'll say most of the time it's being fueled by whatever gasoline is in the vehicle.
So that makes the fire go faster.
And all the manufacturers have changed their fuel delivery systems to composite materials So as soon as a fire starts, the plastic melts and the fuel escapes quicker.
Yeah, you know it's not.
It's not contained anymore.
Like years ago, you know, you'd see the movies that all of a sudden the car would blow up.
Generally that was because they had a.
My opinion was they had a metal fuel tank that eventually would expand and all the gas would escape at once.
Now that plastic tank leaks and the fuel drains out on the ground and that's what fuels the fire.
Yeah, it seems to.
But driving around town every now and then you'll see that little black stain on the side of the highway that somebody's car caught fire there And if you look at it close enough you know you can see parts of the car just melted, stuck to the ground.
I did a uh oh gosh, this was.
I was in small town, kentucky, north of Paduca.
Oh and it was a uh, an Oldsville Aurora, and the guy said it caught fire and I had to go look at it.
And I went to the location where it happened and the fire was so hot and it burned for so long the aluminum wheels had melted and you could literally see four little puddles of aluminum from where the wheels were on the vehicle.
Um well, that's scary thing.
That was a carbureted engine.
Was it fuel injected?
It was fuel injected.
Yeah, that was the four liter North Star.
You know that that that was a cutting edge car back in its day when it came out in 95 was very cutting it style wise, a very cutting edge.
It looked good.
Isn't uh version of that, the one that uh?
AJ Foyt went a million miles an hour.
The engine.
Yeah, out at Fort Stockton.
Yeah, he said, he said a number of uh records records endurance, speed records.
Did they ever use that engine in anything?
Oh yeah, well, they used it in the Aurora.
Um, they used it in, uh, indy racing league when that IRL, when Indy cars switched to the VA Yep.
Originally it was a four liter VA and then IRL.
They were going too fast and they knocked it down to 3.5
and then they knocked it down to a V, six, and now Indy cars are all four cylinder turbos.
But I, yeah, they used, they used it there.
They uh did those inline four cylinders Yeah, really In the Indy cars.
Wow, how do they hold that thing together at 10,000 RPM tightly?
Yeah.
It's not just 10,000 RPM.
It's also the amount of boost.
Remember we talked about a couple of weeks ago when we were doing cylinder blocks, um, how much boost you could put in.
Well, that's one of the things that, uh, you know they're running.
So much boost in them to create the power they create.
You know, i'd like to hear one of those things start up.
I mean, you hear about television.
I'm not talking about that, i want to be next to it.
Started up.
Let me see the RPM.
I don't think you would be.
I don't think you would be as impressed as you think, No.
I know I don't think so either, because it doesn't sound like some you know well, plus you've stood, you know, feet away from a nitro top fuel car.
Yeah, that's where it starts up, right next to it, actually, i start watering, You know you can't breathe the ground.
Beautiful thing, oh, that's gorgeous.
You can feel the impulses of the uh combustion event on your chest.
It's a wonderful thing Yeah it is, it truly is.
It's an experience that internal organs jumping around.
Yeah, i'll never forget the first time I heard one.
This was probably about 1969 and it was down at Houston international raceway.
Oh, down in Dickinson, yeah And uh, i will tell you that it was truly wow.
You went.
I want to make love to this.
You know, it was one of those car guy kind of things and standing feet away from it.
It makes you happy.
Yeah, it does, it makes you happy.
Move your hands, Tom One me.
I didn't do it, but it truly was.
But at any rate, yeah.
We need to figure out how if we're going to get.
No, he's working on it.
Let him go, let him do his thing.
Yeah, let him do his thing, so anyway.
So we did the Ford Fusion recalls.
I got lots more recalls, but I do want to get to a feature that Jeffrey has for us today.
Pretty serious one, yeah, a serious one, yeah, well hot cars, and you know we hear about it all the time.
Now we haven't.
I haven't heard lots of that this year yet, But it's coming.
I'm kind of surprised by the way the temperatures are going.
I've got you updates and it is serious.
Hot car deaths are.
They're not common, but they do happen And it's serious.
and if you're a guardian or a parent, pay attention please.
We're in 40 countries, so everyone needs to know this.
So the summer means more activities, more time Oh, gotta do that.
More time in our vehicles.
Warmer temperatures with rising temperatures, the chance of children dying in a hot car death also increases.
These deaths are all preventable.
I'm going to say that again, conrad.
All of these deaths are preventable.
Hot car deaths deserve attention, not only in the scorching summer months, but all year long.
Temperatures can increase in a vehicle to dangerous levels in less than an hour, and this doesn't mean it has to be that hot outside.
Many people just don't realize how quickly a car can heat up on a warm day.
There was a four-year-old boy in 2020 that died from heat stroke when it was 78 degrees outside.
Another child died in 2005 when it was 73 degrees outside.
Many people just don't realize how quickly a car can heat up.
If it's 73 degrees outside, it only takes 25 minutes for temperatures inside a vehicle to exceed 100 degrees.
The majority of temperature increases also occur within the first 15 to 30 minutes of the vehicle being unattended, proving that it doesn't take long to reach dangerous temperatures.
Hot car death is also known as pediatric vehicular heat stroke or PVH, and refers to the unintended fatality of a child under the age of 18 that perishes due to severe heat or heat stroke within an enclosed or contained vehicle.
The interior of a car oh no, sorry, let's just go to this The interior of a car, such as the dark upholstery or leather-wrapped steering wheel, can attract heat and hold it.
Now I have a leather-wrapped steering wheel and all that.
We're good, conrad.
With no incoming cycle of fresh air or cool the interior, the temperatures exponentially become hotter and hotter, growing dangerous levels.
improves fail to those inside.
Both pets and children are especially susceptible because the lack of the ability to safely extricate themselves from these vehicles.
in this situation, some of the warning signs of heat stroke or heat-related deaths a core temperature of 104 degrees or higher.
Now, when you've got the flu, you're thinking 102, i'm going to take Tylenol.
oh, my gosh, i'm sick.
104 or higher, that's very hot.
Skin feels hot and dry.
you get confusion, agitation, irritability, slurred speech, delirium, flushed skin, rapid breathing, racing heart, headache, nausea, vomiting, seizures and coma.
If you're to those last three.
you really do need to get some help.
Fortunately, there are fewer children falling victim to the PVH, and it's due to several things.
Car manufacturers are putting notifications and Leslie indicated last night that she's got a warning in her vehicle that says check your back seat.
Yeah, if you've opened the back door.
There's other ways to do that.
If you're the dad or a brother and you're taking a child or even an elderly person, maybe to the doctor or out for whatever appointment, take your left shoe off.
Put your left shoe in the back seat.
Simple as that.
Oh, that's a great idea.
Women put their purses in the back seat next to the child.
Adjust your mirror so you can see that person.
if you're getting out of the car you look in the mirror.
oh, there's the child seat.
So there are ways for preventing this.
There has been a noticeable decline Since 1998, there have been 39 children die in hot car related incidents.
It's been about 910 over the course since 1998.
There has been one child in Texas died this year So far this summer in a hot car related death.
there's been eight in the United States, three of them in Florida.
So there's spotty around the United States.
but as these heat things move across the country, be aware of it.
It's not just the United States, there's all countries have this heat related stuff.
Be aware of it.
Do something.
The child goes for a little nap, but you forget about it.
Exactly, you're so active.
So that's my little tip for the summertime.
I have to tell you, even I don't have young children, i don't have anybody that I'm taking to work.
But you see, them.
But in my instance what I do is, if things got a sunroof, either make the thing raise up a little bit, you know, tilt it up and then crack the windows just a little bit.
So at least I don't want to get in the car myself after a long day sitting out with windows rolled up, and maybe you park your car in a place that it's not really advisable to do that, but do it anyway.
Well, i can tell you from an automotive engineering point of view.
They have to build, and not that this is related, but in a way it is.
The plastics that are inside of a car have to withstand 150 degrees for eight hours.
That's in the engineering.
Specific case.
So they know those kind of interior temperatures are a high prob, not a possibility, but a probability that they're gonna see those kind of temperatures.
and that's where the problem comes is there's no air circulation and you basically sit in there and bake, just make sure that you're aware of your surroundings, especially with young children and elderly.
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