Part
TIG welding
TIG welding is a method used to join metal pieces together. It uses a special electrode that doesn't melt, which helps create strong and clean welds, especially for car parts.
Part
quarter panels
Quarter panels are the parts of a car's body located on the sides, towards the back. They help protect the car and give it shape, and sometimes they need to be fixed or replaced if damaged.
Part
planishing hammer
A planishing hammer is a tool that helps make metal surfaces smooth and even. It's often used when working on car bodies to fix dents and shape metal parts.
Part
MIG welder
A MIG welder is a tool used to join metal pieces together by melting them with a wire and gas. It's popular because it's fast and easy to learn, making it great for fixing cars.
Part
hammer and dolly
A hammer and dolly are tools that help shape and smooth out metal. The hammer hits the metal while the dolly supports it from behind, making it easier to fix dents and curves in car panels.
Car
Shelby Cobras
The Shelby Cobra is a fast sports car made in the 1960s that many people love because it's lightweight and has a strong engine. It's famous for racing and is still popular among car collectors today. When people talk about Cobras, they often mention how cool and powerful they are.
Term
acid dipped
Acid dipping is a technique where a car body is soaked in a special liquid to remove old paint and rust. It's commonly done when restoring cars to make sure the metal is clean and ready for repairs.
Term
tri-five
Tri-five is a nickname for certain Chevrolet cars made in the mid-1950s, specifically from 1955 to 1957. These cars are well-loved by enthusiasts for their classic style and are often restored.
Part
weather strip
A weather strip is a rubber piece that helps keep water and air from getting into a car. It's usually found around doors and windows to make sure everything stays sealed.
Term
fuel tank
The fuel tank is where the car keeps its fuel, like gasoline or diesel. It's important for making the car run.
Car
Model A
The Model A is an old car made by Ford in the late 1920s and early 1930s. It was popular because it was affordable and reliable.
Term
Marvel Mystery Oil
Marvel Mystery Oil is a special liquid you can add to your gas or oil to help clean your engine and make it run better. It's like a boost for your car's performance.
Car
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a super-fast sports car that is built for racing and has special features to make it go faster and handle better on the track.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Z06 is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette that is faster and more powerful than the regular models. It's built for people who love to drive fast and enjoy racing.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular sports car that was first introduced in the late 1960s. The 1969 version is famous for its powerful engines and classic muscle car look.
Term
numbers matching
'Numbers matching' means that the important parts of a car, like the engine and transmission, are the original ones that came with it. This is a good thing for collectors because it can make the car worth more.
Car
Pontiac GTO
The Pontiac GTO is a classic car that is considered one of the first muscle cars. The 1967 model is well-known for its speed and stylish design.
Car
Ferrari F430
Car
Lamborghini Aventador
The Lamborghini Aventador is a very high-end sports car made by Lamborghini. It has a powerful engine and a unique design that makes it stand out on the road.
Car
Chevrolet Chevelle
The Chevrolet Chevelle is a classic American car made by Chevrolet. It was popular in the 1960s and 1970s and is often associated with muscle cars, which are known for their powerful engines and sporty designs.
Company
Dynacorn
Dynacorn is a company that makes parts and bodies for classic cars. They help people restore old cars to their original condition by providing new parts that fit well.
Car
Mustang
The Mustang is a popular sports car made by Ford. It's known for being fast and stylish, and many people love to customize them.
Term
rocker
The rocker is a part of the car's body that helps hold it together, especially near the doors. It's important for keeping the car strong and safe.
Term
chassis
The chassis is the main structure of a car that holds everything together, like the engine and wheels. It's like the skeleton of the vehicle.
Term
engine and transmission
The engine makes the car go, and the transmission helps control how that power is used to move the car. They work together to make the car drive.
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You make some progress on your car.
You promised us all you were going to work on it from Christmas to New Year's.
Hey, cars.
Yes, I did.
Yeah.
I got a bunch of welding done.
I have a lot of welding that I did, like eight to 10 feet of TIG welding, probably probably
a little more than that, like 10 or so.
And then I got it all hammered out.
Quarter panels welded on, the quarter panels that I fabricated welded on, the catwalk and
rear window that I previously welded together, but I have that all welded.
So basically the whole back of the car there is all welded together.
Now I have to, the flange to the roof for the sail panel is done on this side.
I just have to finish off the filler piece on the other side, and then I can start getting
these side pieces welded together.
There's like multiple pieces for the side of the roof that are, especially in the front,
have a couple, basically like three or four pieces that I have to weld together before
I can put that as an assembly on the car.
But yeah, it's cruising along.
Like I feel the momentum and I want to get my fingers on it, but this afternoon I have
to rearrange the back room just to make sure that this next month goes, or the next few
months go smoothly as far as taking parts off and on, and just sometimes you have to
rearrange the back, the parts room, you know.
But yeah, I dig it, man.
Well, you always have to be careful when you're dealing with the side piece.
You know what I mean?
I mean, Tammy and I just, we're just joking about, or something about millennials aren't
cheating on one another because they're just simply too lazy.
That's hilarious.
Well, I guess that's a positive question, Mark.
Right, yeah.
It was just funny because we're both like, Jesus, yeah, we are lazy, too.
We're not, whatever.
That was when we were bullshitting on the couch before bed, so anyway, yeah, I'm excited.
I think that we're probably eight hours away from having the roof and everything close to
being done, or done on the car, on my car, sorry, the squirrel moment.
But then the top of the doors, I'm trying to, like, I had an idea for the door tops because
I got, we're making it into a hardtop car, so we got rid of the pillar, and I want to
redo the door tops because the door tops don't really make sense because, you know,
you cut the top off and it's whatever, got to redo it.
I don't just want to cap the ends because the door tops really don't make sense with
the rest of the car now.
I'm trying to envision, like, if I want to put a body line, like, there was a body line
that kind of went around the car, the back of the car, but I'm just trying to envision
what I want to do there now.
If it's just going to be one smooth, I feel like, like, 40 mercs and stuff like that are
just, like, the door tops are just pretty much smooth and round, and they look kind
of nice, so I'm not sure what I want to do there yet.
What do you do with the windows for the side of the car, then?
So this, you know, all these had, like, the smoker windows in it, so it'd be like a two
piece, so the top of the door is basically one flat plane and then another flat plane
for each piece of glass.
I'm going to do a one piece glass, so it's going to be, when I remake the door, I'm just
going to have one straight flange, so it'll be one straight line for the door.
So it's going to be a little bit of monkeying around, making sure the window, the window
that I don't have installed yet, is going to go up and in the right spot, so some of
it might be me having to get the mechanism going, too, and getting all that stuff kind
of figured out, so it's going to be more than just getting the door top done, you pretty
much have to get the window installed, get a window cut and installed, which I'll use
Plexiglas or something at first, or Lexan, but yeah, it's going to be a lot, but I'm
just trying to figure, like, mentally, if I make a Pulmax die for the top of the door,
but I'm trying to envision just what I want it to look like first, because I had an idea
in my head and I don't think I really want to go that route, so.
For the quarter window, it's just going to be, you know, you're a thing to enter
something permanently mounted?
Some of the custom guys, like when I say custom guys, like customer decay, you know,
like 50s, 40s, 60s custom, some of them, they just slid in, like you open the door
and it slid in, so you could take it out with the door, with the window down or the
door open, so I'm probably just going to go that route, just pretty simple.
Just have a little channel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would like to have, like, Zephyrs had one piece glass on the
door, but they had, like, an accessory smoker window, like a, it was like a vent
window on the exterior, so you could roll the window down and then you could turn
this, turn the vent window in, because they're kind of neat.
They're also, it's like a lot of distracting, like, to the eye, so it's like,
do you want extra junk hanging off the side of your car, too?
Probably not.
I don't even know if I want to put spotlights back on it.
So I had my Appleton spotlights and they looked like, it's like the custom thing
to do is, you know, put spotlights on it, but to me, it almost, I'm going to have
to set one up there just to kind of get a vibe for it again.
I don't know if I want to put them back on.
It almost takes away from the, from the lines.
Yeah, I'm thinking the car's getting so smooth, you almost don't want, like,
extra protrusion.
Hey, it's right, right, right.
To me, that would be like, once you start taking off the things that the custom,
the customs in the 50s and 60s used to do, then you're starting to get into, like,
it sounds stupid, but like, Della Hay and like, to me, that's the vibe.
I like kind of want to go a little more far there towards, like,
some, like, French inspired cars, potentially, you know,
a little more Art Deco.
Yeah, for sure.
I would like to do my, my end vision for the, for the front end is like the
the fenders kind of kick the, like, from when the cars aired up,
the fenders, like, from the headlight go straight down.
And I'd like to have them from that, from a side angle be tipped back towards
the, the wheel, told you to the tire, so it's almost fits the rest of the car.
So it's, you know, the rest of the car is kind of slanted back.
So it'd be nice to have that slanted back.
And then basically for the lack of better term, shave the headlights,
but make a headlight door and then have make like, have like a cable mechanisms
to where you pull the cable, it opens the, like a manual cable.
It opens the door.
And then at the end of the cable, it turns the switch on.
So like you open the cable and at the end, you know what I'm saying?
Like something like that on the interior, be kind of cool.
So that's, that's my, like, I just want it to be like mechanical though.
I don't want to, I don't really want to use electric doors or anything.
I think you could, if long as you make mechanism smooth enough,
I think it'd be pretty easy.
Yeah.
How would the doors flip open or would they like go down and slide into the body
or something or?
I think it'd be almost closer to like a garage door idea to where it's going to
be like, it's, it's just on a track system and it's just going to, you know,
just make, I think it'd be pretty simple to make a track.
It's just a matter of getting everything sturdy enough to where it's not going
to ever, you know, jockey and bind and shit, you know?
I don't know.
That's what I'd like to do, but, you know, I almost cut the front end apart to do
that and I'm like, no, no, no, Quinton, let's, let's like weld some of this shit
together in the back first.
Cut all the welding go off.
It's a lot.
There's some of it where I wish I would have, some of it I started, I kind of
carried myself to where the weld was going to be on these panels that I put on
the car before I had some of the tooling that I had and a planishing like the,
the, the hoop planishing hammer that I have.
So I wish it would have left the weld out a little farther.
I thought I was three quarters of an inch away from the flange.
I was three quarters of an inch away from the three quarters of an inch away
from the flange of the deck lid opening.
And I thought that was enough for me to get my planishing hammer in there.
Well, when I ended up starting to cut it and trim it from the bottom side,
there's extra part of a gutter that sticks in.
So I was like, there's only maybe a half inch of the weld I could see because the
gutter with the backside of the gutter is in the way.
So I had to kind of improvise and use different methods of hammering the weld out.
But so I wish I would have just set myself up better.
And there's other things that there's different things I wish I would have done
differently if I would have built those panels in the more recent months.
But what are you going to do?
You know, for the guys that aren't building panels like this and using
planishing hammers, you want to like explain why you, why after you weld,
you planish hammered out or hammer and dolly it out.
That makes sense.
So like any time you weld anything together, it's going to shrink.
It's going to suck in.
Well, it's going to, to a certain extent, just a matter of what kind of
welder you have and your settings if you have enough penetration.
But regardless, if you have enough penetration, your butt welding two
panels together, they're good, it's going to shrink in.
And if you use a MIG welder, it's really tough to get that back pulled
back out without it cracking.
Like it's almost it's virtually impossible to do that with a MIG
welder to get that panel stretch back out.
So when you're doing a TIG welding or a gas welding, it's soft enough
and you can expand that back out.
So after that heat pulls that panel in, so you're going to start like this,
you know, your panel, your butt welding, it's going to start pulling in.
It's, you know, if you're on a crown, it's going to start pulling in.
So you, I basically use a little more filler rod than I do just because I,
when I'm welding, I just want to make sure I have enough there.
So I'm not having to refill holes and shit like that.
So I'll take, basically dress the top of my weld just a little bit off
the top and a little bit off the bottom to just correct any irregularities
in the, in the panel itself.
And then you just stretch that weld back out.
And as soon as even like, if you're welding something together, like you've
heard like it go, the panel go, and like shit, like change and move and shrink in.
Well, if anything bad happens there, when you're, when you're welding a panel
and, and there's like some distortion and it really fucks the panel up.
Like it's all like twisted up and stuff.
All like, don't start trying to straighten the panel.
Correct the weld first, stretch that weld back out because that well that's
pulled everything together, you can track correcting everything else.
And you're just going to start twisting and, and unforming that, that
panel really badly.
So if you stretch that weld back out, that's going to stretch out all the
areas that we're all pulled in and that corrects the panel.
So the basically the better it is before you start welding.
Like if it's, if it's perfect, perfect, perfect before you start welding
and you weld it up and it's all fucked up, it's because of the weld.
So then you just correct the weld.
So it's just a matter of like, oh, you know, making sure that the, the, the
what it's some of it is making sure that it's the weld first, you know, making
sure that it is good before you start welding, you know, if you have a panel
just tacked together and you kind of pushed it, pushed the panels together
and tacked them, there's still a lot of tension.
So when I'm tacking, when I'm putting the panels together and I'm
tacking them together to get it before prior to welding, I'm going to
planish that, that scene out and that's going to take all that tension out.
So if it's, if you're right before you go to weld, if, if you don't take
that tension out, you're going to see that panel start to do some goofy
stuff along the edges and it's just going to, even between your tax,
it's going to start to misalign because it just has tension on the panel.
So if you planish that out before you, before you weld it, you get even
better results.
So it's and the better results you get after you stretch this out, you
know, you don't need to have a half inch of filler in it.
When you, if you go across the big panel with a MIG welder, you know,
you go across the huge quarter panel, you're going to have some good
amount of filler in it to repair that because you can't stretch it back out
and what else are you going to do?
So, I mean, so it's almost like the more time you spend ahead of the weld
and ahead of, ahead of just like, shit, I need a MIG welder.
Let's make this right.
Like the more preparation it just, it almost takes less time in the end.
Right.
Like, especially body wise, like it really does.
Like when all you, all you have to do is block the car out, skim coat it
and you're good to go.
Like that's, you're not building quarter panels with body filler.
Like we used to do at that place that we work together.
Yeah.
The foundation work definitely goes a lot farther than trying to save
some time on the, you know, the metal.
Generally, like the bigger, the, if you're trying to fill a gap, that's
going to shrink more than if you're, but then if you're, you're, you're, you're
panels, like tight, tight, tight.
So that's something to think about too.
Because I mean, you can always fill a gap.
I mean, anybody can fill a gap if they really want to try and you try
hard enough, but, um, do you want to?
Not always, but sometimes you have to.
All right.
Now to go a little against what Quinton said, I was a patching a 55 this week.
Well, last week and last weekend, um, big YouTube series on the, it's for
Mr. Sam, what guy that hangs out with Cleetus McFarland.
Uh, and I went up to my friend's shop to help him with some of the metal
work before they got this car in epoxy, because it was acid dipped.
So they just wanted to get somebody probably patched it.
And I'm guessing the seventies.
They just put a piece of metal behind it.
Yeah.
They, they just tacked it around the edge and then they just packed it full of filler.
Um, so, you know, it's a two hour drive.
You should be lucky that it was even cold dude.
Yeah.
Uh, it was a two hour drive there and back for me.
I had my kid with me, you know what I mean?
I was just going to help out.
I wasn't, you know, I don't work there.
So, uh, I only had about six hours of work time to do it.
And they have a TIG welder, but it doesn't get used all that often.
And I was like, there's no way I'm going to be able to TIG this up.
Yeah.
What you were doing, that's a tough, that's a tough one to pull off that in
that bottom corner, if you're taking it in, like you would spend the whole day
tacking it in and getting it, getting it like finished out before you even burn.
Yeah.
So I was left with the conundrum of doing a quality patch that, um, hundreds
of thousands of people are going to see.
And I did two large ones and I big welded it.
And above the, where I cut them out, there was also on the passenger side, a big crease.
Sweet.
So, you know, I marked out what, you know, was the minimum I could cut on this
thing and then also with utilizing some of the corner body lines, like where it
meets the, you know, where it rolls under the car, where the wheel, wheel arches
to kind of have something sturdy.
And I cut them out and then hammered the heck out of that crease.
Cause like Quentin said, you got to get the metal straight before you try
welding anything into it.
And then, you know, hand form patches.
And then when they were to, you know, I made them oversized, put them on the
inside and then scribed, you know, so I could get as tight of a fit as possible.
Because like you said, you start welding gaps and you're going to have a lot more
shrinkage.
You describe the, the patch panel from the edge of the body on the end.
Like from, so you use the, it sounds like a dumb question, but you held the patch
on the outside and you scribed on the inside from the quarter panel.
No, I was, I actually slid, cause thankfully there was like an access
on the inside of that quarter panel.
So I slid the patch down from the inside and then I used the outside
line to scribe.
I, I, I could have made the patch bigger and then scribe, you know,
that it would have been much simpler to just scribe the outside of the panel.
But I was kind of in one of those situations where I was like, I would
rather leave more of the original quarter panel and less patch.
I mean, we're talking about a quarter inch.
No, that makes sense.
Sometimes I'm coming from the angle of get it, get the weld out in the
open so I can, so I can, uh, correct it, you know, right?
So sometimes it, like just make it a little bigger and that'll make it
a little easier for myself, but I definitely understand your, especially
you had like a day, like your time was definitely, uh, you did a good job.
I mean, I think it was a good, so.
Yeah.
So when I, you know, I did that and then I scribed it and I sanded it or, you
know what I mean, flap wheeled it in real close and then I kept fitting
and fitting and fitting it.
I mean, I did the videos in time lapse so you can, you can't see that.
Oh yeah.
It was in and out like.
For me, I get, I get it.
So, um, I ended up getting it.
So there was like one area on one of the patches I could just lightly
catch my fingernail in, you know what I mean?
Like it was tight tight and then, you know, tack it around the outside edge
and constantly, you know, hammering and dollying and picking things to get
them as flat the entire time and welding.
Cause if it does suck in and you weld that up when you sand it, you're
going to have a big crater.
Yeah.
If you don't, if you don't correct it with a MIG welder, if you don't get
that corrected before you tacked, you know, you put that hot tack in that spot,
it'll, it's going to hold it there.
And that's it.
Yeah.
And then, uh, good results, MIG welding too.
I mean, I've done that for sure.
I've been done that up until four years ago.
It, it, it works.
It's just, uh, you have to be a lot more careful.
Yeah.
Well, it's every, I mean, every tack has to, it's got to be right.
If you want it to be right in the end, like almost every tack has to be like
the panel has to be in the right spot.
Yeah.
If you want it to be like perfect as possible in the end.
So it's kind of nerve wrecking that way.
But it's also, if you need to knock it out, I mean, I'm fucking
not some stuff out with a MIG welder too.
Yeah.
And then I did, um, hammer and dolly the whole weld and all, you know what I mean?
Straighten the panels back out after they could use a little bit more because
as far as just the panels being massage, cause there was already a stretch from
the crease, the one there that was the crease and I just welded a panel in and
I didn't have to get into the wheel arch or anything.
That one's really nice.
But the one where I had to do the wheel arch and then there was the crease there.
There was already like tension and spring in the metal.
So I had to fight that a little bit and it could use a little massaging.
But you're, I mean, you're nowhere, I don't even think you'd be over an eighth
inch of filler in the way it is right now.
It's all acceptable.
Yeah.
Generally eighth inch on a large panel is not something like eighth
inch at the worst spot is not really.
I mean, you're talking, you're talking an eighth inch that you're feeling there.
But when you go across, when you're like looking down that whole panel, I
guarantee you it's going to have an eighth or more to correct the line down the panel.
You know what I'm saying?
If you skim code it, there's going to be areas with eighth inch easy just to get
that thing looking straight.
So it's like, I don't know.
People think that everything that's metal finished doesn't have filler in it.
It's like, listen, you can, you can straighten this, these cars till your
teeth are blue or whatever the phrase would be.
I mean, you're still going to, once you put a straight edge down the car, it's
not exactly like reflection all the way down the car straight and no, no wrinkles.
Like anybody that's even, I mean, if you're, if you have like, or like those
copper or aluminum cobras that are just like raw, that would be the only time.
But guess what?
The down, those cars aren't flat.
None of them are flat.
They're all huge.
Rediases.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can hide a little bit in the radius.
Yeah.
Um, the stretch your back.
All you do is stretch it out a little more.
Yeah.
Like you just radius it a little more.
Like it's not, I'm not, I'm not taking away from what those guys do with
those copper bodies because they are fucking amazing.
Like what those guys do with, like even though that was a Shelby, like those
first gen Shelby's, I can't remember.
Anyways, um, but those guys, those are really amazing, like amazing
craftsmanship that those guys do.
But, uh, yeah, you just, you get a little whooping it and you just stretch
it out a little more and they just make you a patch.
Yeah.
So it, you just try to make a sure that the work you do is at least as good as
the car, the, you know what I mean, the, the factory panel and there is that too.
I mean, you can spend, you could, you could probably blow 30, 40 hours on
getting those quarter panel patches in there and making them, making them
perfect, perfect, but does he want it perfect, perfect, you know, it's one
of those things where if the customer sees the level of work that you're doing
and he's, they're like, I want this, but like that's asking one thing.
But in another, it's like, does he just want the patches welded in and he
doesn't care if it's got a half inch of filler in it?
Cause if he doesn't give a shit, like, or what are we all doing here?
You know, some people just don't care, you know, I'm sure this guy, he wants
a nice car, but he's also realistic.
The car was, you're not, I don't think you're the kind of guy that's like,
yeah, just pack it full of filler.
Yeah.
The guy and the shop owner were quite pleased with what the patch is.
You know what I mean?
If you look at the car, the patches are far from, you know, the biggest problem.
But sure, sure, sure, you know, there was some, some, some dogs in the
comments barking at me about a, you know, how are you going to protect
the inside of that?
You know, cause they, you know, in, in my, the channel video for the shop,
it doesn't show me, uh, weld through priming the back side of it and like
up in the quarter and everything like that while I had it open.
Even though the car is stripped right now, it is acid dipped empty.
So even though I put a patch in it, it would have been stripped, you know, bare
metal behind there either way, but I'm getting barked at about it by people.
Like it didn't catch where it was dipped.
You ding, ding.
Like holy cow.
But I weld through primed it because, um, have you, you've worked on tri-fives.
They got that weather strip where the wheel arch meets the court, like butts
against the quarter panel.
The quarter panel is not actually welded to the, the wheel tub.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't, I don't think I've dug that deep on a tri-five.
Yeah.
So they, when they, before they put the quarter panel on the, there's like the
wheel tub, the edge of it where, you know, normally you would spot that would
weld into the lip of the wheel arch on the quarter panel or something on this.
It's just like a, the metal comes out straight and they put a weather strip on
it, like a T weather strip on it.
And then they just play the quarter panel up against it, weld the quarter panel
at the seams, they weld it at the rockers.
There is literally, it's stapled into the steel.
I, I, dude, I, the car comes back from tip and I'm looking at it.
I'm like, what in the heck is this?
And you can see it's like factory leaded and everything into the seams and
everything.
And then there's a weather strip.
Now you're looking at that 57, aren't you?
Yeah.
Like what the fuck?
That's crazy.
I've, I've never seen that.
And so I got my friend and I was like, what the heck is with this?
And I was like, it looks a hundred percent factory.
Like the way it's done, it's trimmed, it's laid in there.
But they, yeah, they weld, they weld it to the, you know, the sail
panel above the trunk, they weld it, you know, to the roof.
They weld it all down like the door jam and to the rocker.
Dude, no wonder why tri-fives always crack at the above the rear bumper
underneath the trunk.
They always crack there.
No wonder why that makes total sense.
And no wonder that the car is the same.
Come into a body shop or the underneath the trunk.
It's all fucking cracked out like almost all of them.
Yeah.
Wow.
Those are really, that's a really honestly stupid.
No, wonder why they, like it's supposed to be the biggest
baddest part is like Mickey Mouse together.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
We were kind of wondering why both corners were rotted the way they were.
And then when we saw that there's weather stripping in that corner, it's
like, Oh, I bet you this held some moisture and some stuff.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a lot.
It's weird.
We got to all the interior in on that, not all the interior.
I just have a B pillar and some, uh, at a small list of stuff that I had
to get for the 57, but it's all seats are in it.
It's looking pretty sick.
It's all the insides brand new.
So the, uh, just got to get the glove box cardboard in there and get the
glove box door on some other small little things.
And, and it's pretty much pinstripe it and should be done with it.
Hopefully.
What are you doing for pinstripe on just a line?
Are you doing some artwork on the back?
Awesome artwork.
I just got to verify some colors with the customer.
I have some colors that I think that would look good, but, um, you know,
it's just want to make verify with her.
And then, uh, yeah, I want to make sure we're like, I know she wants designs
on it in places, but sometimes like too many, too much pinstripe and all over
it kind of like takes away a little too much.
So I got to kind of see what she's like, how many designs and like where, and
like, it's kind of like a tattoo, like where you want it, you know, kind of a thing.
I mean, some of it is like to, to the artist's discretion, I would suspect,
but also I just want to make sure that she's going to be happy with it.
So yeah, so that it shouldn't take too much.
It's just a matter of getting whatever we need, uh, colors we need.
I think we have the colors here.
So it shouldn't be too bad.
Yeah.
I got the fuel tank out of the model a that we chopped to get that thing
cleaned out before blasting.
And that was like, uh, I talked to a place in town.
Cause they used to do, used to do a fuel tank cleaning.
And I think I, the last one I took with to him was like really rusty.
And so when I call them this time, they're like, you better bring it in.
I don't know if we're going to say, yes, like, but, uh, he spoke the inside of it.
And he's like, dude, this thing's a hundred years old.
It's like the nicest tank I've seen.
That was a hundred years old.
Okay.
So it was actually a nice, nice insight, apparently.
At least we're getting it cleaned out before, you know, everything gets all
final welded together and sandwiched in there forever.
So yeah.
And then you put like that tank coating in it that you like pour in and roll
the tank around.
They, I haven't, I haven't talked to one guy that, that cleans tanks or does
any of that, anything like that, that, uh, I've known a few people that do that,
but any, but these guys that I'm talking to that I've had cleaned my tanks for
like 15, 20 years, they, uh, they're like, we don't do those linings.
He's like, they'll end up falling out.
He's like, they just say, you know, put a little Marvel mystery oil in your,
in your fuel tank and keep your gas tank full.
That's their recommendation.
Well, they're not paying the, and if you just, they're not paying the, what?
The bill at the gas pump, keep it full.
Yeah.
I mean, there's that, but I'm just kidding.
I mean, if it's, yeah, right.
If the fuel tank's full and you just like, if you just like jockey the car around
and just get that, rewet the top of the tank, I mean, it's going to last long,
long, long time.
Just a matter of, you know, if you have a car that you can shimmy around enough,
or if you can just, you know, start it up and hit the brakes once on the car and
get that fuel to move around, it should be fine, but just a matter of how long
you're going to parked, you know, if you're, if you have a collection of cars
and you're not going to drive it for, you know, maybe once a summer, I think
that's a different scenario, you know,
I had a friend that did that tank lining and the whole thing seemed a little
weird to me, like he poured it in.
There was like a red stuff and then he like rolled the tank over and over and
over, I don't know.
Yeah, it scares me.
I mean, what it's going to get behind that lining at some point, at some point.
Like it just will.
So then what my concern too is like that stuff probably breaks down at some point
and then you're filling filter socks and filters.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's just like potential, the potential for more problems are, I mean, I don't know,
it's just not my, I never heard anybody have a good look like, like this is the
way to do it and anybody helping me with the fuel tank stuff is they just clean
it out, keep clean, oil it, okey-dokey or just get a new one.
Just get a new one.
That's a new one.
Get a new one.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Driving back from Fort Myers after working on that car and my kid was with me and
then he was looking through my phone and I was like, oh, Clinton sent some
pictures of his car and he, he swipes over and he sees like, you know, the angled
shots you took and he's like, this thing is.
Yeah, it's a, I just got to get it back out on the road, you know.
Take it to a couple of shows and, uh, it, I mean, it was like, when it's laid
out, it looks fucking crazy.
I mean, I think it looks pretty rad.
I just cut it up until I liked the way it looked and then we started filling
the gaps and then, you know, here we are three years later, trying to finish it.
But sometimes getting the approval of a 13 year old is harder than anything, you
know, so you're on the right path.
Sure.
Hell yeah.
Nice.
Winning.
That's a win.
Yeah.
We were, and then, and then after he saw that we were driving and then, uh, I
don't think I sent you a picture or video, he took a video, but, uh, I'm
like, I think there's a, I think there's a Porsche or something up in front of
us and we're driving and I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
We get to a stoplight and I just see it peeking out.
It was like two cars ahead of us or three cars ahead of us.
I see the corner like, that's a wide body Porsche.
Let's go know that.
And then we take off at the light and it turns.
And as soon as he turns silver and then I see across the bottom in red GT three
RS that I was like, Oh, Jesus, that car costs more than my house.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's a pretty serious car.
Just old way.
It gets pretty.
There.
I mean, there isn't there.
What is that town in Florida that's like, I don't know, it's fucking
ultra expensive.
I can't remember what that town was.
For what?
I'm sure there's more of them.
I don't know.
Well, there's some people from up here that went down there and there's like,
you could, you drove around in a Ford and you felt like you were like Ponds gum.
I don't know where it was.
It was funny though.
Um, there's, there's a lot of that, but also, I don't know, you got to be
pretty buried in the, in a neighborhood to be weird and afford.
But I mean, it's not odd to see, you know, a million dollar car or something,
you know, quarter million dollar car, but, you know, there's still a lot of
regular cars around pretty much no matter what you're in that stuff here.
I don't see that stuff here at all.
The coolest thing I see is like a zero six Corvette.
Like we don't, I don't even know if there's anybody in the area that would
have a ZR one, but regardless, all the ZR, the guy down the, uh, there's a guy
in town here that had a zero six, a brand new one that burnt up in that recall.
Really?
Yeah.
And they apparently GM won't cover it because, uh, they found a rag in the
engine bay.
All right.
Oh, cool.
Um, when we got speaking to car, when we got to my buddy's shop, uh, I was like,
okay, you've got, he had the 55 in his, I don't know what you want to call it,
the finishing shop, the paint shop.
And then, uh, he's got like another shop he rents next to it for, he
calls it the dirty side.
So that's like all the, you know, grinding and body, body dust side.
And, uh, I was like, are we going to move the car out of here?
Cause there was like a numbers matching 396 69 Camaro on the
lift that they were doing a vintage and then there was like a convertible
G, I think 67 GTO, they just were wet sanding and I was like, you
don't want me grinding in here.
Right.
Uh, yeah, yeah.
And then, uh, he's like, no, we'll move it over, but, uh, we're
going to have to get the Ferrari out of the way.
And then we walk into the shop and there's this F430 spider, I guess.
If they're convertible, they're spider, right?
Well, I have no idea.
I think so.
But, oh, whatever.
This black F430 and he's like, uh, I don't feel like climbing in that thing.
You want to move the Rari?
And I was like, yeah, I suppose, you know, whatever.
So then I moved the F430 they were working on.
And then, uh, he texts me.
Was it what?
Was your kid like, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, I did.
He likes it.
You know, he, he was like, Italian fingers, but, uh, he likes it.
And then my buddy texts me yesterday that, uh, maybe it was two days ago.
They got a pearl white Lamborghini Aventador in the shop right now,
getting some work done.
Like he's definitely in the mix.
Um, yeah, no, don't get his hands on some crazy stuff.
I, I'm not going to go too crazy and talking about what he was telling me,
but he's got a all new Dynacorn Chevelle.
So I don't know what year Chevelle Dynacorn's making, but, uh, 69, he said
that the customer dropped it off and, uh, gave him one of those like big boy
block gapping tools.
And he said, I want this car in metal, everything gap to three sixteenths.
Let's see if you can do that.
And then we'll go from there.
That's pretty fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Like, so like my friends, like, uh, you know, if that means welding filler
rods down the edges of the body panels and.
You shouldn't have to do that.
I mean, that's last, that's last case scenario.
Yeah.
He said, so the guy's starting well, I mean, don't, that's, yeah, that's
really scary to me because he asked me, he's like, Ethan, I'm not, I don't want
to weld, you know, have to do these long welds on the edge of the panel.
I was like, yeah, me either, but I'm like, I really think you should be able
to, you know, get the door in place and then the fender, the guy said, like,
don't shim this thing, cut the brackets and re-weld them.
You know what I mean?
Like whatever you have to do to get it in place.
So I don't think he should be having to go crazy unless the door to quarter
panel and rock your gap is unfixable.
Cause I feel like the fender, you can, you can work to the door and to the hood.
Some of it, I mean, I would be, I would be cutting the quarter panel and opening
it and closed like the outside edge.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You cut that.
Moving that before I would be trying to weld something on the edge of the panel.
I agree.
Cause he'd said that and I, you know, I've heard of it, but it's like,
that's a serious undertaking.
Cause you're talking about feet of weld on the edge of the panel.
Well, to be honest, the first one doesn't, if the first person attempting
that job on that car doesn't get it right, it's fucking junk.
You, you're going to spend double to get it finished right, uh, you know,
right the second time.
Right.
So not having, I mean, you definitely got to go in there with a game plan and
hopefully you're starting on it and not like, uh, so you're not picking up the
pieces from somebody else trying to weld rod and rod on the ends of the, and, you
know, cause then you, you weld stuff on the edge of the panel and then what if
you get it, you're into bodywork, you got an epoxy and now you have to push in
that edge and now you have it, let's say you mig weld something on the end of
that panel and now you're trying to hammer that mig weld with rod on it.
Boy, I mean, it's just sounds like problems.
You know, I mean, this, this Mustang here, all the panels on the outside
are aftermarket, the whole thing.
I mean, the tub isn't.
So that would be the different, a different story for you, but I mean,
I think it is a, I think it is a tub aftermarket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But to, I mean, to be honest, the, the welds on those aftermarket tubs are a
third of what a factory one is.
So if you have to cut a weld and move it, it's nothing.
Like it's not, it's not like cutting and loosening a factory car.
Sometimes the welds are on the edge of the panel and not spot welded.
Oh, gotcha.
Like these box sides, these aftermarket box sides, they're wherever they're
made in like Vietnam or Indonesia or China, wherever the fuck they're made.
They just buzz the edge of the panel with a MIG welder.
They don't even spot weld the damn thing.
I wonder.
So it really depends, you know, if it's, if it's a dynacorn body, it's
probably going to fit halfway decent from the beginning.
And, but to get it three core, three sixteenths gap, I would be concerned
about door swing in from Fent from front door to fender.
Is it even possible?
Because on Camaro's, that's not possible.
Like a 69 Camaro, you cannot, like with the body lines that the car has,
you can physically, you can't physically get the door that close to the fender.
The Chevelle doesn't have a big peak on it.
I don't think though, like the big 60 maybe that's the reason why, you know,
but it does have a decent body line in it though, doesn't it?
No, am I thinking wrong?
Not like I said, I don't even know the year or the car, but yeah,
I need 60 and if it's no.
They've got to OK by yeah, I should be able to tuck that in pretty close.
My thought, I do remember.
They did the factory, they didn't fit very well, though.
Even factory, like the fenders now, I don't even think.
Yeah. Well, there's a difference.
They do have a somebody wants.
Yeah, true. Very true.
That sounds fun, though.
Like, honestly, that sounds like gapping a car is it sounds stupid,
but it's like really gratifying and satisfying for me.
Like I really like doing that.
Yeah, they said no shims in metal three sixteenths.
Sounds fun.
Yeah. So my only concern with that, it would be about.
When you line up the door, body line to the quarter body line,
you can close the gap on the quarter to the door.
But you know what I mean?
If you've got too big of a gap between the rocker and the bottom of the door,
it would be means you're almost going to have to live with that.
That's usually if you're not living with that,
you're probably going to have to.
It probably easier to make a new, like make a little flange
and weld it in on top of the rocker.
You know, it would probably be easier to do that.
Like, even with these Mustangs, you can get the gaps nice and tight,
but they're I don't know that you got to basically rework the rocker
to get that sucked in.
There's always height, height differences for some reason
on the zapt market panels, like they make them a little too short.
What if you split it, split the rocker and then.
You know what I mean, opened it up.
The rocker, you could do that.
I think it'd be more work and more correction in body work
because you're going to have a well way down that rocker.
Also, I guess you could cut the rocker in just the door opening and move it up.
But then, like I said, you're filling a gap in the center of the rocker.
Adding a panel on top isn't exactly, you know, you're just sandwiching panels.
You don't really it's not ideal, but in this custom car world,
I don't think there is a if you want it like perfect, perfect, like no panels
overlapped, you know, you want a custom full custom car, which when you're
asking for three sixteenths gap to a certain extent, you're past factory.
You're not factory is out the window because you're not doing that.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, right, because it's if it's factory, then you can have you can
shitty gaps are semi acceptable.
Right.
So it really depends on, you know, if the guy wants that good a gap,
you're going to have to make something happen.
And if the guy wants to make it perfect, that's a whole another level, too.
You know, as far as like panel fitment, you know, if you want the
if you want the rockers to fit perfectly to the doors,
well, let's cut the let's cut the rocker off and make a new rocker.
Like that's almost like what how far does he want to take it to be right?
You know, right?
So do you modify that panel or do you just make a new one?
Because you know, sorry, go ahead.
You definitely don't want to be welding to the edge of a folded
over door skin. No, no, no, no.
Because it's not going to be just the rate of success.
It's going to be very small.
Trying to get that well.
I wonder if the customer like saw something on a TV show about welding,
fill a rod down the edge or something that is that something that
we're asked for, is that something the guy that he talked to or that the shop
the way he worded it to me made it sound like the shop owner made it sound
like the customer said it.
I mean, I've seen, I mean, I think in that Winfield class,
that Jean Winfield class that he was talking about welding rod on the edges
and shit, you know, that's an old school.
That's like old school.
So I mean, depending on the age of the person that owns the car,
you know, the owner of the car itself, I can see.
I could see somebody doing that, but you go into any real high end shop.
I mean, I think welding rod to the end of your panel to fill gap is.
I don't know if anybody's doing that.
You know, I wouldn't be doing that, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's going to take a person that can move a panel like, you know what I mean?
That can that can open a quarter or do that, you know, move the rocker or whatever.
I mean, if you even if you're like a half inch, like the quarter panel, I mean.
Usually you can get the door.
On a car like that, you should be able to get the door snuck down pretty far.
I think you I mean, I think you'd be able to sneak it down pretty far.
And if the body lines don't match up, sometimes you can correct body lines
to get to get that stuff to line up.
I don't know. Sometimes it's.
Like with that 58, you know, that one coal side is down like almost a half inch.
So sometimes you got to cut the quarter.
You might have cut a quarter panel loose in the corner and move it, you know,
that's it's all possible.
But, you know, having aftermarket stuff, there's a lot of a lot more questions
without having the vehicle in front of you.
Right.
You know, there's a lot and making sure it's on.
Like.
A square chassis sitting squarely on the floor or the chassis
it's going to be on or whatever.
Like ideally it would be the chassis that it's going to be on finally
with the engine and transmission in it or the weight mock weight of said thing
because you're going to gap that car without engine and transmission.
And then you're going to set an engine transmission and it's going to be all
fucked up because that's the reality of the situation.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I'm guessing this is just a, you know, a repop Chevelle
that's rolling that they pulled in this shop and that, you know, they told him
we want you to get it set up and we want you to drill the eighth inch holes
through the door hinges.
So we line them back up where they are later after, you know what I mean?
Like so it can be replaced in the same spot.
That's the if that's what they're wanting to be married to, then they should
definitely be putting the weight in the car.
Yeah.
I didn't even as it will.
I didn't think to ask if it had that, especially because Chevelle's a
unibody or no.
Well, it's on a frame.
They're on a frame.
So it's all going to flex though.
Yeah.
Especially if it's a big block.
Yeah, for real.
I mean, no lie.
For real, I mean, this the coyote and this thing, it's not, I don't think
it's that heavy of an engine and it's changes how the car sits in the 66, you know.
Well, maybe I'll call my buddy and have a chat with him.
I mean, even if it's even if it's just a, you could probably put a small block
and it'd be all right, but, you know, you want to kind of get the match, the
weight of whatever is going in it.
So I mean, if even if it's just a donor or something that's junk, something
they have sitting around potentially, but.
It sounded to me like this customer is not married to them as being the shop.
And this is more of a litmus test to see if he wants to have cars done there.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
To me, it's almost, I've had customers have that, like come to that without
approach and it's always, it's turned in my circumstance, it's turned out to be
like, okay, we want you to work on it more and now I've got a pile of cars that
I need to work on, but it's almost like you're testing each other out too, you
know, you want to test the customer out as far as what, what you can get through
in a month, their expectations, your expectations, billing, actually paying
the bill.
Sometimes that, that first month is like, you can, you can see potential
red or green flags, like that's what you're, you're vibing it out the first month.
So, you know, I can definitely see that.
So.
I get to cart a part of Roadster Shop, Chassis this next week.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, not, not a lot, just the engine mounts.
Got to move them back a little bit, but it's fun to say I get cut a part of
new Chassis.
Nice.
Yeah.
And at 58, it definitely, it's got to get moved back.
So we're made some decisions as far as where we want the firewall cut, how we
wants that to look in the end, stuff like that.
But sweet.
Pretty sweet.
So if the transmission mount is like, got a foot of adjustment.
So that's really not an issue.
So he brought his, uh, I'll go ahead.
This cutting stuff like that make you sweat a little or you don't mind one bit.
Nah, it's just metal.
Yep.
It's easy.
It's easy.
That's not a big deal.
And it doesn't make me sweat at all.
I mean, I think the customer was like, like when I told him what he was going to,
what I was going to do is like, okay, but yeah, there's a bunch of different
ways you could move that, like change it.
Like you could make a new mount, leave the mounts on the, on the frame side and
just make a new mount, but it would be like really goofy and angling, angled
really weird and the friendly amount of weld and surface area.
It's just going to be easier and stronger to just cut the little, uh, mount.
It's basically like a little channel that they have coming off the, there's
enough room on the frame to move, just cut it, move it back, reweld it on.
So it seems it's going to be pretty easy.
It will look better.
I mean, it was it making those engine mounts.
I could have 16 hours and getting the mounts remade and hopefully they're right.
And this is just going to be like, pull the engine out, cut the mounts, you
know, set the engine back in, move it back, tack everything back in, make sure
it's in the right spot.
You know, it's going to be more, it's going to be more of cutting out of the
firewall and making sure it's just trimmed back enough there.
Then I would, then it will be the mounts itself, I think.
I love cutting up nice stuff.
I love it.
Yeah.
I cut up a brand new Premier cab and a brand new roadster shop chassis.
Let's do it.
I showed up to that shop.
We moved the Ferrari, put the 55 in there.
I mean, it wasn't 10 minutes.
It was in place and I was already cutting holes in the side of some dude's car.
That's all just cars, man.
I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just like cutting up a toaster, man.
It's just somebody's product.
Who cares?
Yeah.
My, my people, like it's too nice to cut up like that.
Cut it up.
My kid, I was like, why don't you come make a cut on the car?
You know, and he's like, he's only used the ankle grinder once before.
And he's like, well, what if I mess up and I went, there's nothing you can
mess up that I can't fix, you know, the cars in bare metal.
It's not like I hadn't cut a patch yet for that side that I was having them cut.
So the patch could have grown it, you know, three sixteenths of an inch or whatever.
But just trying to wet his feet a little bit, but definitely not used to the
grinder sparks, just like, you know, nailing you.
Oh yeah.
That's something I remember.
Remember that, uh, was it something with some early Jesse James show?
I don't know if it was his, like, uh, biker build off or whatever, but
there's like sparks flying and he's like showering and putting them in his hair,
like brushing them into his hair.
I remember doing that.
See, and that was hilarious.
Yeah.
It was monster garage.
I was, I've been rewatching it and, uh, just for like, when I drink my coffee
in the morning, I put it on as like a background show.
It's comfortable, but, uh, yeah, he did that.
And it was one of the, it was like the first season, somebody's grinding.
And yeah, he's just brushing it through his hair.
It goes, yeah, I did it at high school.
I did it in high school and I'm doing it like through my dry hair.
He's got it all greased up.
So he's not burning anything.
And I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh yeah.
Who doesn't want to be Jesse James?
I don't know.
It's definitely, uh, somebody that exposed little me in, in central Wisconsin
to a lot of shit I never would have been exposed to between that and American,
uh, American hot rod, I think it is with void.
Shit.
That show was awesome, man.
The drama was a bit extra, but the show was good.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, but yeah, just to see that level of car.
You weren't, there was no, there's no other TV show showing cars at that level.
And then showing departments, different departments of just making custom cars.
It was fucking crazy.
Like, can't even imagine that I couldn't even imagined it when I was a kid.
Like when you grew up in my dad working at a Chevy dealership and everybody's like,
you know, working on their own shit, but nobody's making anything that nice.
Like not even, you'd see something like that at a car show every once in a while
and wonder like, who, how, why, but this was a show showing it to you, like full exposure
and more drama.
I'm like, what hurt?
Yeah, that's cool.
I need that for the night, guys.
Yeah, we were just at, uh, restaurant yesterday and they had, I think it was like
power nation or something on it.
It looked like basically like power block TV.
And then so I'm like staring past the wife watching TV.
So what are you doing?
And I'm like, you know, they're dino in some motor.
It's like 950 horse, pretty rad.
And then a bunch of girls sat like, all right, like right underneath of it.
And I was like, I can't even look at the TV anymore.
Damn, we got to go.
Being women, getting in your way of your view, or you just didn't want to look
like a creep.
That's basically it.
I'm drooling over big block on TV, you know, it's not a good luck.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
And they turn around and notice you staring.
You just got like burger grease, dripping down the beard.
That's what I want.
Not to happen.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
I think that might be a good finishing note for this one.
Yeah, it could be.
Well, where can they find you online?
You can find me on the YouTube, Instagram and Facebook.
Can they find you, sir?
Find me at Tereshark TV.
The main thing is YouTube, but you can give me everywhere.
TikTok, Instagram, Facebook is not everywhere.
That's everywhere.
That's everywhere.
Fucking cars, Betty.
All right.
Why don't you give everybody your social security number and home address
and your mother's main name?
Six, four, it's nice.
Oh, okay.
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About this episode
Progress on a car build takes center stage as the hosts discuss extensive welding work, including quarter panels and roof modifications. They share insights on custom bodywork, window designs, and the challenges of achieving perfect panel gaps. The conversation also touches on the importance of preparation before welding, the use of TIG versus MIG welding, and the nuances of working with aftermarket parts. With a mix of humor and technical advice, the episode offers a deep dive into the realities of car restoration and customization.
Original notes
Welcome back to the F_cking Cars Podcast, where Ethan and Quintin dive deep into the builds, breakdowns, and bullshit that shape real shop life. Every week we tackle the projects on our lifts, the chaos happening in the automotive world, and the stories that only come from long nights in the garage. From custom fabrication to wild engine swaps, questionable Craigslist finds, and the philosophy behind why we keep doing this to ourselves—nothing is off-limits.
If you love cars, craftsmanship, and unfiltered shop talk, you’re in the right place. Grab a drink, settle in, and let’s get into it.
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