EP. 25 Pedro and Bettys Big Revival

stuff like that, are we ready to bring on Argus?

Yeah, absolutely.

Joining us two more people that I would like to try

to see what they have going on in the August 29th

realm of time frame.

But Argus tonight are, boom, right there,

Mike and Frank from Pedro and Betty,

why do you pronounce his name?

Both ways.

Okay, Pedro, Betty's big revival.

It's all good, it's all right.

Call him whatever you want, just call him,

don't call him later, didn't.

Right.

What's up guys?

How you guys doing?

What's up?

What's happening?

Just chilling, just stoked to be on the podcast, man.

Oh, I'm just.

Grateful to get you guys on.

Doked to have you guys, like huge fan of you guys.

We've known each other through Instagram

over the last, what, probably 345 years ish.

So, and actually, I got to be honest,

this whole concept that we're doing right now,

I stole from you guys,

because you guys go live every Friday on Instagram, right?

Every Friday, seven o'clock Eastern times.

Seven o'clock Eastern time.

Plus, we're working on something, and then.

Seven o' 5715720

I think one night, yeah, I got the alert at like seven forty-five,

and I was like, oh, geez, I thought they just forgot tonight.

No, it's hilarious, if it gets to like seven o' five,

my phone starts blowing up, text messages, DMs, whatever,

you guys know, go live, yeah, we're working on something.

Is everybody okay?

Yeah.

So, guys, go ahead and introduce yourself.

Which one's Mike?

Which one's Frank? Yeah.

That's Frank.

It's Pedro and Betty, here we go.

Vice versa.

Yeah, yeah, let's see, Pedro, Betty.

That's where the name came from.

Nice.

Our bike names, basically, twenty,

we've been messing with these shadows since I started messing

with them around 2006, and then Frank, I think around 2012,

maybe you got yours, and as soon as he got it,

I don't know if he'd even written it or not, he's like,

hey man, come over and help me start cutting stuff off.

So, you know, we got busy on it, but yeah,

in 2021, there was a big flood in my neighborhood,

my house flooded, and the shop where I keep my bikes flooded,

and Betty had about three feet of water all around her,

so he had the ground space, and we were like,

let's just finally cut these things up big time

and start from the beginning,

and so that's where the big revival came from,

so it's weird doing motions and then seeing yourself

do motions.

Yeah, yep, it took me a while, but like it's like a slight delay in it.

Look at the trails, man, we're messing with my hands.

It's tricky.

Derek and Frank both say that, and I see my screen is totally

different from your guys's, so I have no idea what you guys are seeing.

Oh, man, that's because you got the master key, man.

That's what it is.

I do control all of the buttons, so that's.

Yeah, for better or worse.

Yeah, yeah, I believe it, I believe it.

So you had a big flood, and that's what where the name came from.

And then you guys just decided to start documenting it on Instagram.

Yeah, we were having, you know, like friends and family members and stuff like that.

You know, what's happening with the bikes?

What would you guys do this week or whatever?

And Frank and I were talking, and we were like, let's just start an Instagram page

and put it all there so people can follow it.

And then we talked to some friend of ours through the years

that gave us information and help when we needed it, you know,

about the specific bikes that we started with.

And we were like, you know what?

We've had people give us a ton of info, so let's make this Instagram

about, you know, trying to share information with people.

We've really tried to never be secretive or anything like that.

Just, you know, if somebody hits us up with, hey, how'd you make that?

We will send them pictures.

We will give them step by step, you know, I'm pretty OCD with the postings

or a little bit looser now, but I used to, every week,

when we would post what we were doing, I would try to, you know,

we did this, then and then we did this and what I would.

Five years and that adds up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no kidding.

Gives us a little bit tedious, but and then

what after about a month of just making posts,

we were talking in the shop one night and Frank was like,

we should just go live and try it out and see what everybody thinks.

And I think our first live was like maybe 10 minutes or something.

Oh, yeah.

We had no clue what we were doing.

Well, he knew, but we still don't, we're figuring it out.

He's the technology guy.

But we went live and we got some really good feedback from it.

So we've been going live every week for five years now.

Yeah, it's awesome.

Yeah, so yeah, I always I believe I have a YouTube video up and

I'm working on one of my Wild Stallions builds, but it was had to be a Friday night

because I did a cut scene where I'm like, we watch Pedro and Betty's

in the garage on Friday nights, like in the middle of my video.

So yeah, I had a shot of you guys on my phone.

But yeah, it's a truly, truly cool concept.

And like I said, I totally stole it from you guys.

So sorry, not really.

More than a year, I'm sure I'm sure we stole it from someone.

We just don't know who.

Right. And your guys's Instagram, you guys have like 4,000 followers now.

I looked this afternoon.

We're about 16 away from hitting 5,000.

Oh, that is awesome.

Yeah, pretty wild.

And that's the the chat in the live is always, always a good time.

And I I believe I commented on there a couple of times that it's really

just networking is what it is.

There's like John Gott, he's in there, Gatti.

He's in there. Yeah.

Who else just get in there to talk to him.

That's all that only really happens.

They know where he's going to be seven o'clock on Fridays.

Hmm. It's always funny when it starts.

I'm sure you guys have seen it happen.

It's we'll we'll get started talking.

And then when certain guys get in there, they just start talking to each other.

Oh, yeah.

And I'm like, that's where we're here.

We're just, you know, it's it's the group meeting.

You know, it's bringing back the AOL chat.

Yeah. And we're all yeah, we're all about that age.

So we have a chat.

Yeah. So no, that's it's really, really cool.

So if you guys watch and never

checked them out on Instagram, go over there and check them out because it's really cool.

What happened to the YouTube channel?

You guys started one, didn't you?

We we did it just that we did.

We refused to find the time of the day to go work at the time we wanted to start it.

It wasn't a realistic at that time goal between my full time production company

and then his daily life.

It just didn't pan out.

Right.

But still, it's still on the table.

Yeah. I hate editing videos.

It's like one of the worst, worst things.

It just I'm not fast at it.

I'm not really good at it.

And it's just the only no.

It's like it's like if you if you cook, if you're a burger chef all day,

you don't want to come home and cook burgers.

Right. Yeah.

Because that's what I do all day.

It's edit video.

So right. Yeah.

Yeah, there was a dude told me that Bill, we were building big houses

when I was working doing that and he was like living on a trailer.

I was like, what he's like, yeah, you'll find that because

people don't want to work on houses when they get done building houses.

So we got just live in a trailer at somebody else deal with it for.

And I was like, that's funny.

And I found out about the builder actually was in a trailer and like that's all

saying, like real like man, they really went out all the way for this story.

I wonder if like he's got a secret drunk.

Like, I do, but other than that, I mean, like, yeah, you guys,

they got a great following.

You'd great to meet you guys.

I seen Mike and party at the pen.

He was walking around with the Dave's.

I got a sticker.

I reached Nick, like probably a couple of minutes after I just got done

seeing you and he was like, oh, I haven't seen him.

He's here. I was like, I got the sticker to prove it.

But he was like, I haven't seen him the whole time.

And Nick, you never did run into Mike.

I didn't.

That's weird. We got a sticker for you, Nick.

Oh, I appreciate you.

I got, I think.

Oh, I got you.

Yeah, I can't believe that we made it all the way around.

That prison didn't run into each other.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess it is pretty big.

Yeah, there was a couple of people that said they were going to be there.

And I got to see a lot of people, but there was you and a couple other folks

that were like, how did we not run into each other?

And I'm like, yeah, there's a lot to see and do there.

That's for sure.

I can tell you what, when it filled up because the rain,

everybody started doing the shuffle through the, you know, the tour.

I could see how, like, if somebody started the tour and somebody came in

and they all shuffled at the same time and stuff like that,

you were just always a constant amount of distance away from each other.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, Frank, were you there?

No, I had to to work an event that weekend.

I wasn't able to make it.

Gotcha.

Yeah, Mike, this was your first year, right?

Mm hmm. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a really, really cool venue.

And like I said, this this year was so much bigger than last year.

It felt like like it really exploded in just a year's time.

Well, twice the amount of vendors, four times the amount of people this year.

Right. It was huge.

It was I came back and was telling Frank, I was like, God, like everybody was there.

Yeah. It was a huge thing.

A ton of the people that we know or that we follow or, you know,

things we're interested in what they're building, things like that.

It was it was really cool to be able to put a face to an Instagram account.

You know, right?

Yeah, real life, right?

No, but it's like it's starting to be, especially in my way,

it's great to be able to go to these shows and be able to network with those people

that we've only been able to trade like, oh, you're doing a great job on that.

Or man, that's a sweet bike you got or stuff like that.

Three flame emojis there.

And then like and then, you know, you'd be able to really meet the person

and stuff like that and trade some stickers and stuff.

What Frank?

No, no, OK.

Laugh and laugh.

Oh, no, no, our Franks, our Frank, the one up in the car.

He's not trying to bring him in.

But yes, what was your favorite bike?

Yeah, you weren't there.

Like, did you have a favorite bike?

It's person that you can think of.

There's so much going on there.

I could you nail down something that was your.

There were so many of them.

But 11 I specifically wanted to see while I was there was

Jared Weems, Trout that he built.

All tour, I think, is what he calls it.

Yeah.

We had met Jared before at Fuel Cleveland, what, 24, I think.

So he seems like such a cool dude.

He's a very, very cool guy, very down to earth.

That was I was really looking forward to seeing that one because I just

I'm all about details on a bike, the little Easter eggs hiding everywhere.

And he really filled that thing up with him.

So I was excited to lay eyes on it in person.

And then all notes of ideas.

And anyone that's watched, you know, any of your videos on Instagram,

Mike would definitely know that you are like very, very detail oriented

and almost OCD with like your cleanliness, your shop and what I am so jealous

that your shop is that clean.

Like, I don't know how you do it.

Chase, rank around with a broom.

Is that what it is?

That's 100% accurate.

So are you are you guys like the odd couple?

Like your one's Felix and one's Oscar?

Yeah, we really are.

It's it's it's a trip.

We've done it not so much on our.

How to freeze this?

We we build our personal bikes, right?

So I'm doing my thing.

Frank's doing his thing.

Here's here's a good indicator of it.

So when we first started on these bikes, had him up on the tables,

we're like ready to go.

It was later on a Friday evening because back then we couldn't start until

like four o'clock in the evening or something like that.

So we're getting started.

I'm walking around.

I'm looking and I'm taking my parts off and you know, labeling them and

you know, putting them neatly into a little case and whatever.

And I look over and he's got his bike down to the frame, wiring stripped off.

He's just going at it and he's like, I'm ready to start cutting.

And I'm like, I haven't even taken a gas tank off yet.

But that's that's kind of just how we operate.

We're very different in that respect, but we Frank is a.

You can say he's a he's a cut and think later.

That's exactly it.

Like if I can't make a decision, I'm cutting it in half and then I have to finish it.

So yeah, yeah, and I will sit and stare at a bike for 45 minutes trying to think

about how I want to do it and what it's, you know, this is going to change this.

You guys guys know what that's actually become a thing in our shop is I'll say

to Mike, hey, if I'm lost or like, I need, need like, hey, give me an idea on this.

Hey, come stare at this for a while.

Yeah.

Come stare at this for a while so we can figure this out.

Mike is the designated stare.

That is it.

Absolutely.

But when we did the, when we built the chopper for the, for the kids charity,

um, that was a whole different experience because it was no longer me working on mine,

him working on his, it was, you know, both of us going at the same bike.

So it was kind of a little bit, uh, let's not cut that quite yet.

Let's, you know, let's think about it a little bit.

And then Frank's like, dude, we gotta, you know, we gotta do this.

Let's do this to see him or whatever.

So it worked out really well.

Yeah, it's kind of best to both worlds.

Yeah.

Putting them together, it kind of sounds like the best of both, you know, kind of

like, uh, hey, we need to get going and can't overthink it.

And hey, we need to take a second to really think before we, you know, put it

together too with a cut there.

And the other thing, I mean, we've, we've known each other for what, 18 years.

I mean, so as vastly different as we are, we respect each other enough to like,

hey, hold on, listen for a second.

So, you know, we, we kind of really do keep each other from screwing up or

going down a path that we can't go back together.

Gotcha.

Let's, uh, let's touch on the charity bike for a bit.

Um, because that was such a cool thing.

I'm upset that I didn't win it.

And, um, yeah, let's talk about that.

What was the charity that you built that for?

So we, um, we built it for the sweet Julia grace foundation, um, a nonprofit

that helps, um, children and their families that are in time of need,

whether it be, um, a disability or a medical crisis, um, they meet whatever

needs they need.

If they need a ramp built, they build a ramp.

If they need a whole addition built to their house, whatever you name it.

So I have done some, some of the kids get wheelchairs with bulldozer tracks.

Yep.

Take, take chairs.

Freaking red.

We'd love to get our hands on one and beg them.

Just let us take it a ride around a little bit.

Let us chop a track chair.

That would be cool.

I've done some work with them, some media work, some photo and video.

And I just fell in love with the kids.

And Mike and I had already been talking like, you know, things are kind of

taken off on Instagram and, you know, maybe we should do something with what we

do and try to help somebody or do something good with it.

And so we already had like an idea.

Let's, let's do some sort of build and raffle it off and benefit a charity.

And then I was working with this group and I came, I came back.

Like it was on a Friday night.

I was shooting an event.

I walked into the shop late and I said, we're doing it for them.

You don't get to say we're doing it for them.

And that, that's how that relationship started and it, uh, it was interesting.

It was a learning experience for sure.

Yeah.

It is, it is not, uh, it sounds so simple.

It is not an easy thing to build a bike for a charity to raffle.

It's just not quite that cut and dry.

It's really not.

We learned a lot.

We did like lesson one, build the bike, have it finished, then tell them you're

going to do it.

Gotcha.

We put ourselves in, we, we backed ourselves into a corner numerous times on

that build where it was like, you know, rushing to get things done, trying to figure

out, and then at times it felt like we were building or accomplishing things just

to please and appease them.

Nothing wrong with that, but it put an extra level of stress on the build.

May have made it as good as it turned out.

I don't know who knows, who knows.

At the end of the day, it was, the whole situation was pretty cool.

Well, the rad, the rad thing about that build was, uh, of course we talked about it.

And we, you know, put it on the Instagram, what we were doing, everything, but we

had so many people, uh, reach out to us, um, hey, I want to donate something.

Is there anything you guys need?

Uh, I think Jimmy from, uh, Honda chopper.com.

He was the first guy to contact us.

And he was like, fellas, either pick out a fender or a seat or whatever.

And we're getting it for you.

So he, he got a fender hand delivered it to the shop.

He's been to the shop a couple of times.

Jimmy's a super cool guy.

Um, uh, Cal and Kate, uh, retro retro fit cycle works.

They're up in New Jersey.

Uh, they built, uh, a superior Sissy bar to anything we'll ever be able to build.

That's true.

Uh, he was just like, I want to build the Sissy bar.

And that, that was, uh, there's, there's all kinds of details like that on that bike.

Um, Cal used to build Sissy bars with his dad and his dad had passed away.

Um, and he had to relocate from the shop that they had used, uh, to a new shop.

And the Sissy bar that he built for the charity bike was the first one that he

had built since his dad passed.

So on the fender strap underneath of the fender, you can't see it looking at the bike,

but it's engraved under underneath of there of the kid, you know, the sweet

Julie and his dad and yeah, super cool, super cool.

There's some really neat stuff like that on there.

Um, uh, our homie TJ, uh, if you guys are familiar with TJ brittle systems.

I've been friends with TJ since like 2006.

Um, I'm there, I'll digress for a second.

If you guys don't mind and the wonderful world of forums, you know, that used to

be on the internet, some of them are still out there, but, um, I met a lot of

guys doing shadow chops, uh, through a VLX form, uh, uh, you guys might be

familiar with young from, uh, Lane split Boulevard fame.

He's with the, you know, got the huge tires on his bike.

Uh, met young TJ, uh, Eric from custom customs met all those guys on this

forum, right?

And became friends with them pretty quick.

So I've known all those guys for a really, really long time.

And, um, so TJ reached out to us and he was like, um, I want to donate some

parts for your bike.

So I just got on the phone with him and he was like, what do you want?

So basically just made it like a little wish list of stuff he had and then he

donated it.

Uh, so I can keep going on, uh, John Gaddy, uh, he, he gave us the donor

bike, bike in Florida, put it in the bed of his truck and drove it to West

Virginia to bring it to us.

And then, uh, him and Tom, uh, they stayed there the whole weekend and, uh,

helped us with getting started on the frame, but the single back as the first

single backbone we had done.

So it was nice to have their help.

And, and, uh, there was such mystery around that we thought this is going to

be so involved.

This is called geometry and math and all this stuff.

We had that backbone on there.

Like, I mean, after the frame was prepped, you know, getting everything

ready with the back home was on there in like less than an hour.

It was, it was ridiculous how simple it was.

Um, but just things with that bike, it really, really showed.

Um, I know social media and stuff like that can, you know, kind of get a bad

rep, but it is community building, uh, you know, within the, uh, the motorcycle

world at large, but the chopper culture and, or if you want to call it that,

um, uh, this is really cool to see it in operation and, and how willing people

were to, uh, to send stuff.

Uh, guys familiar with max Elvis max, um, he grinds these little, uh, 10 millimeter

wrenches into keys for ignitions.

Yeah.

He sent one of those for the bike.

It's just, it was, it was way cool, man.

It was, it was super cool to have all that coming in.

So, and now through digression, I have a lost track of where this was going.

I'm glad you did it this week.

Cause I'll do, I do.

I was going to say, yeah.

I'm good at it, man.

I'm, I'm, I can, I can lose track like no other.

Oh man, I already lost track.

No, but, um, no, I like the, uh, I think of it as like we're side

quest and like often hopefully we can get back and stuff.

So like, uh, we talk about a lot of different things and hopefully we can

come back to what we were originally talking about.

I don't know.

Sometimes I can, sometimes I can.

So I'm, and I ramble on about something that we'd go somewhere else.

But, um, so I see you guys are filling up the new shop.

Uh, it looks like it's coming together, everything.

So why you still got some fill on the do, but it looks like you have a

lot more space going on there.

Yeah.

Um, this, this back area that the shop has, what is it?

Like it's like 2,800 square feet, 2,800 square feet.

So we came out of roughly, roughly 1,000 square feet.

So almost tripled it.

Um, it'll fill up fast.

Lots of room for activities.

Uh, it's, it's, it's really great.

Um, has all the power we need for the welders and everything.

I mean, it's couldn't, couldn't have been a perfect, a more perfect situation.

Yeah.

Unless it was spring.

Yeah.

And, uh, so how far is it away from when you guys got to travel to get to, uh,

this location and stuff?

Um, it's, it's about 15 minutes from my house, the first shop.

Yes.

It's about 10 minutes for me, which was nice because it was when we were doing

everything at Frank's house, that was about a 20 minute jump for me.

So, so more centered for you guys.

Yeah.

It's, it's also the front half of the building is also my office from my company.

So it's, it's been pretty awesome to like step away and come into the shop and

Tinker and work on something for a little bit and go back.

So I've already had more progress in my bike since I moved over here when it was

at my house.

Very cool.

So what are you guys, uh, working on now?

You keep bringing up shadows.

You just work on shadows or is it the main thing?

Got a 883.

Uh, see this was a 90.

Don't, don't fall.

So 883, 91 sports for right here.

Uh, we've got a, uh, mystery year.

Yeah.

Sporty engine over here, uh, frame and stuff over there.

Uh, frame, uh, Frank's going to be, you're going to be building a 1200, right?

Yeah.

So he's, uh, when Phaedra gets finished, he's, uh, starting on a 1200 sportster build.

Um, we love the shadows.

That's what we know and we'll certainly keep building them, but, uh, we are going

branch out of, we love anything that has an engine and two wheels.

Really.

I mean, uh, never, never been real picky, picky, just the shadows are what we both

started with and that's what we know the best.

So they're kind of like a go to for us and probably always will be, but it's still,

it's still fun to roll a shadow and do a show and see people turn their nose about it.

Right.

So yeah, I've built a couple of shadows and, um, yeah.

I mean, they're cheap and prevalent.

I mean, they're, they're all over the place and you can usually pick them up

for, you know, 1200 bucks.

So are they, they run forever?

They're a Honda.

You can't pick them up for 1200 bucks in West Virginia.

You can't have they've gotten.

No, they're, they're averaging three grand.

Wow.

BLX 600s are, are you kidding me?

Wow.

Yeah.

And if you do find them for 900 to 1500 bucks, they're completely clapped out.

You guys need me to drop anything off my way to glory days.

This year.

Let me know.

I can swing down that way.

Are you guys going to glory days this year?

Yes, we are.

Um, uh, we will have two bikes, uh, in the show this year in the show.

Nice.

Yeah.

Uh, Betty, we're not sure.

I mean, Kurt's working on all that stuff, but, uh, Betty and, and Pedro will

both be there.

So awesome.

Yeah.

Betty and Pedro are going to the prom, man.

Yeah.

I go to buying dinner.

Yeah.

Well, you guys had a, the rain dancer in there last year, right?

Yeah, we did.

Yeah.

And it was, was pretty cool.

We got a lot of really good feedback from it.

Yeah.

You were in a great spot too.

Like not too far to one.

Yes.

You were great in the middle and like caught you on the way in the through and.

Yeah.

I was, I was really kind of, um, I mean,

we've had it to a couple of things before like cycle showcase and it had a

really great reception there, but I was really blown away at glory days.

How many people stopped and just took the time to really look at it.

Um, and even ask questions about it.

Um, yeah, it's a, it's a, when you've, when you've not done it very much,

it's, it's a really weird and fun and cool feeling to see people looking at

what you built, you know, you know, yeah.

Totally.

We'll be at, uh, glory days too.

We're going to be promoting, uh, wild stallions there.

Uh, we're going to have a 10 by 10 pop up, uh, you're in some, uh, material and

seeing what we can, who we can add to the build list for next season and stuff

like that while we're in that region.

Um, as of right now, no bikes, uh, that I know of from wild stallions.

We're going to that and Nick, am I not thinking of one or is there not

anybody that we know that's going to be in, in the show?

We said, you know, J bird might.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know what he is.

Oh, I'm not sure.

I didn't know if Frank, you might have put something in.

I didn't know about it or anything, but well, you know, if he'd show up to work,

we could ask him instead.

We just, we just post pictures of him on the grumps.

Yeah.

But I can't remember if him and Marty are putting anything in or not.

I didn't, I didn't remember or not, but yeah, we'll be there with that.

And as for shows, uh, glory days is topped here.

Um, I think that like in a Midwest show, it is the number one show in our area.

And, uh, really Kurt runs a great set up there and it's really aspiring to

like go through it and see everything.

And, you know, especially Curtis, you know, very down to earth.

So like talk to you, shake a hand, go through it, stuff like that.

Um, and, uh, you know, he's into no, like, he puts a lot into that too.

Not only like the whole thing, like how's everything going to look?

How's it going to lay out?

How's it going to be presented and stuff like that walk past stuff like that?

I mean, he puts a lot in the glory days in the show.

Um, and I guess it is going to be even bigger this year because they're

going to be putting more stuff on the, uh, towards the river side there.

I figured.

Yeah.

How many times he's, how many times he's done that during the live?

He's there to talk and then hold on.

Oh, gotta go.

Nature calls, guys.

Yeah.

I feel like the whole, the whole experience of glory days is like a work of art.

you ran away too quick.

Take the mic off.

That's good.

All right, we're good next time.

Take the mic off.

I didn't, I didn't, it's a splitter.

So, well, so anyway, that's a good segue into something a little less awesome

sound effect for the, Hey, you love it.

Sorry, I'm, uh, I'm the old dude and got a bladder the size of a thimble.

I knew I wouldn't make it through this thing.

That right there is going to get them at least 500 new followers on YouTube.

Love it.

Perfect.

Yep.

Um, anyway, you're talking about glory days.

Um, yeah, I was saying like the whole, the whole experience is like a work of art.

I mean, it's, it, you can kind of feel Kurt's art in the way it's set up and the

way the whole experience is.

It's, it's one of the, one of the most enjoyable shows I've ever been upon.

Yeah.

And, and touch on just a split second.

Kurt's actual art is killer too.

Like it's really trippy.

It's far out like, and top of that, there's a whole story that he puts behind each

one of them things like, and it's a whole like layout of what the picture is

representing and stuff like that.

It's quite cool when you like really dive into his art and stuff.

And you see the trippiness finding myself on a bike, but it's like cool stuff.

I've seen a couple in, you know, the prison there where we were there and

the art upstairs and such, right?

You know, that's, that's what I was going to say.

If, um, you guys got to check that out there at, uh, party at the pen.

Cause I, I wanted to check that out.

But one astral astral, I can't remember the last part of it, but that, that

painting is just killer killer.

I love it.

Yeah.

He does, he does incredible.

Another, uh, another one of our friends was, uh, in the art show there, um,

Chris, uh, galley, uh, double chicken designs, uh, if you guys got to see some

of his stuff, we met him at fuel 24.

Yeah.

He was, he was in the vending spot next to us.

So it was kind of got to spend a weekend next to him, but, uh, super cool guy.

Um, he actually offered to do some artwork for us for the raffle bike and the,

the time, uh, the way things, or the way things we were panning, the, the

timeframe we thought they were panning out, we were supposed to have the bike

done in October and they were going to give it away and ended up not being

finished and give them away until February.

So we missed it back a couple months.

That's why we jumped back to say and have the bike finished and then go with

all the other stuff.

So, but, um, yeah, it's just, uh, motorcycle art.

It's such a cool thing anyways, but, uh, Kurt, Kurt definitely has a, uh, a gift

and that vision for, uh, for taking, like you were saying, the, the thought and

the story behind it and visually putting it right in front of you, you know, kind

of what we all hope to do with, uh, you know, physical pieces of steel with, you

know, tires and stuff like that.

You know, we're trying to do the same thing.

Yep.

Uh, uh, frog in the chat says, there is the thing called a mute button.

I hit it.

I said, we'll get, we'll get it next time.

No big deal.

Sorry.

Sorry, we're live live.

We ain't 30 seconds.

There's no delay.

Even if there was, I probably wouldn't know how to work it.

So whatever.

Don't you take having us on something, right?

New rule.

Mike, Mike comes off.

It's this thing.

Do you know, I was in there.

I was like, man, it would suck.

This thing wasn't needed.

I walked away and I was like, dude, need to Mike.

Yeah, you don't have to watch the, I was gonna say, it's a good thing.

You got a buddy like Frank there to really, you know, have your back and, and

all that.

He didn't hit no mute buttons.

Um, so why, we have a show that we do in August.

What do you guys happen to be doing in the August 29th, uh, realm of 2026?

Oh, we will be in North Carolina of the week leading up to that.

Um, I think we're coming back.

Actually, we're coming back from North Carolina either on the 28th or the 29th.

You guys do like a week down there every year, don't you?

Yeah.

Yeah, we do.

We've got, uh, there's, uh, Frank and I and, uh, my brother

brother in law, the Dave's.

Yeah.

The Dave's, the Dave's got to meet the collective Dave's as we call them.

Um, Chase and, uh, yeah, our buddy Chase.

Um, we take a week trip every August to, uh, Smoky Mountains.

And if you guys have never had the chance to ride there, I highly recommend it.

That is on the bucket list.

I am planning on moving there in about six years.

So right on.

Yeah.

As soon as my youngest graduates high school, I'm out.

I can't, I can't do winter anymore and I love, I love it down there.

Yeah.

It was, um, we've been doing that.

That started as a trip that just my brother and I took.

Um, and then we were like, why don't we see if Frank wants to come.

So let's throw him above.

Let's throw him above.

So Frank came.

It was so funny.

We were all riding big baggers back then.

Um, Frank and I were on a lecture glides.

My brother was on a, uh, 1700 road star with the hard, the Silverado with the hard

bags and all that stuff.

And, uh, you know, we're riding around brother.

But we had a great time and then, um, uh, the shorter of the collective Dave's, uh,

he got, he got a 77 iron head and he wanted to come on the trip.

And, uh, the first year he pulled it down there on the trailer, which he got

relentless flat for, um, but, uh, he was laughing at us because it was just

dumping rain the whole time, the whole, we were just soaked the whole way there.

And, um, uh, let's see, we had to work on the bike twice on that trip.

And then the next year, uh, he had the same bike and he decided to ride it.

And we spent four or five hours on the side of the road outside of Asheville,

North Carolina, and it was, was so cool.

Um, that experience was not cool.

But what happened was his, um, his, uh, I don't know.

It was pretty cool.

Yeah.

You get a cool story now.

He thought it sucked, but we, you know, we were laughing at it.

Dude, I had a blast, but, um, his, uh, friction discs, uh, were jacked up in

his clutch and we'd been sitting there for quite a while and the sky pulls up

in a work truck and he jumps out and he's like, uh, iron head, you know, shaking

his head, you know, he's like, he's like, you know, guys, I live right over

here in Asheville.

I got a garage full of those parts and, uh, be happy to help get you back on

the road.

So, uh, he left his phone number and his address and stuff.

And when the tow truck came, uh, they towed it to his shop and he got him, uh,

he took the, the discs out and, uh, did a little wizardry with them and got

him back to where he was mobile.

And he had to get a new shift lever because I broke it off.

Yeah.

Frank broke a shift when we were fixing the bike.

It was stuck.

So I broke it.

So it was cool.

Um, and we found out the next, I guess the next morning when he showed up

where we were base camping for the, for the week, um, uh, the guy's name, uh, is

Eddie Cleveland and, uh, dude builds custom chops and has been, uh, had bikes

in fuel, has had bikes in a lot of other shows that we've been to and, uh, he just

happened to be driving by where we were and got him fixed up, got him on the

road.

So we were able to make a cool connection out of that.

That's awesome.

He ended up, he ended up towing that bike back home too.

Um, it crapped out the night before we left.

And, uh, yeah.

So he sold the iron head, uh, about a month after he got back and he's a, he's

a dyna bro now.

So, but, but he has a blast with that bike and we're happy that he has fun with

that bike and Derek probably bought the iron head.

So it was pretty cool.

The iron that was in Japan now.

Which was pretty cool.

He lived, um, something in that town, South, South Point, Ohio.

And there's a local guy there that, uh, actually will buy a bunch of the old iron

and he's, he buys it for some dudes over in Japan and then he facilitates getting it,

you know, over there or whatever.

All the old iron seems to be ending up over in Japan.

Well, you know, but I was there and like, I was thinking I would be tripping over them

and I just couldn't find as much.

Like I seen a couple.

Yeah.

I mean, like mid 90s, stuff like that, that you're running those forties, but like,

I was hoping to see like, Oh, there's a panhead.

So there's the old shovel.

So that's where, now I seen a couple ironheads, a couple of mid-evo,

sporties and stuff like that.

I did see one, you know, uh, pan, but you know, I was, I think I would,

they didn't get, but that's such a huge area to cover.

And even the seven days, like there's little spots that change all over.

So, um, that sounds like a great trip.

Like that'd be something that, uh, I'd like to put together over time.

Like a nice ride through this area, go, uh, stay here, you know, set up, set up.

You guys camp, do you have, you know, distances that you get to, to get to?

So we, we, we ride all the way to Bryce and Sadie, North Carolina in a single day.

And we stay at the same, same lodge in the same two rooms every trip.

It's, uh, the two rivers lodge.

We've, we've over the years become good, good friends with the owners.

Blaine and Kathy and it's this, um, like 60 style motel that they've kept pretty much perfect.

And, uh, all exterior doors, you know, no long hallways.

Yeah.

It's cool.

But it's, it's, um, I can't remember the name of the two rivers, but right behind the place,

two rivers come together and there's this huge covered fire pit.

And it's like the, the perfect place to go ride all day and go sit by the river.

And then you have Bryson cities, like pretty much central.

You got, uh, Cherokee, 441s there.

And then you got the Blue Ridge Parkways right there in Cherokee too.

And, um, Cherahala and, uh, Tilly dragon are just what, 40 minutes away from there, if that.

Yeah.

About that.

Yeah.

No.

It's a, you can, you can do a day loop ride.

Um, uh, it's about starting in Cherokee and, uh, making a big round trip like through

Robbinsville and the dragon and all that stuff.

And then coming back around, uh, Gatlinburg back up over the mountain.

All this, it's about 148 miles.

Uh, 441 down there is probably one of my favorite rides.

The roads, when, when there's not any traffic, when there's traffic,

that sucks.

But, um, yeah, the road's so smooth and it's just back and forth.

And I really need to get down there this year.

Yeah.

But so you were saying that your, your buddy, he started riding, um, the 77 iron head.

So now you guys, you don't, you don't take your baggers anymore.

What do you, what do you ride down there?

Oh, we ride the shadows.

And you ride them.

You don't trailer them?

No, we ride them.

So you got two hardtail 600 shadows that you guys, how far away is that for you guys?

Uh, it's about 348 miles, I think.

It takes us on a good day.

If we're not on the side of the road with an iron head, um, we usually leave like

around seven in the morning and we usually pull into where we're staying.

And like 556 if somewhere around there.

So it takes us almost 12 hours because a lot of gas stops, a lot of, uh, but breaks.

But, but that's on a good trip.

Yeah.

But it's, uh, yeah, we love it.

That's, uh, we love riding in that area, but that's part of the fun is, you know,

the ride there and the ride back home.

We, we, we love to ride our bikes.

We definitely, it's nice to be invited, you know, to shows and things like that,

but we build them to put miles on them.

That's the, that's the plan.

Go out and have fun with them.

100%.

Yeah.

So you, um, you guys were on a deadline with the, uh,

charity bike.

Have you guys built, uh, did you guys participate in Gatti's build off?

We do.

Yeah.

Okay.

What was the, uh, you talking about the 24 hour build?

Well, that one too, but didn't he just do his, uh, like a 28 anniversary?

Okay.

October 25th, I think.

Is it?

So the date got moved and I can't remember which direction it got moved

because it was going to be the same weekend as a big show there.

But, um, yeah, it's towards the end, middle of the end of October.

Uh, Florida, October.

That'll be nice.

Yeah.

We're going to be going down there for that.

Yeah.

We're going, we're going.

Are you guys, I was going to say, are you guys building bikes for that show?

Yeah.

We're technically, technically yes.

Okay.

But it's just, uh, have I started building it?

Oh, it's, it's, we know all about that.

The engine's back here.

You were just talking about it.

Yeah.

I'm supposed to be building a long sports for this build off.

But, uh, I haven't started it yet because I got way deeper in Pedro than I plan to get.

And then life took over as we all know happens when you're trying to build something.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

We moved here and then just, I could just say excuse, excuse, excuse.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we're, we're definitely going down for the build off.

Um, we'll have bikes with us when we go.

I don't know if we're going to have a bike in the show or in the build off.

If I have some sort of miracle and can pull off building the sports to, to the plan that

I have on paper to build it, then it's a plan, fellas.

It's a plan.

Oh, you know what they say about plans?

Evil scientists laughed.

Yeah.

It's a plan that's been done a million times.

I'm just, we're, we're going to do it next.

Well, let's talk about 24 hour build.

What, what was that about?

I remember, um, kind of following along with it online.

That wasn't his, he was in another competition, wasn't he?

No, he, uh, that's an idea that John had had for a long time.

And, uh, he just wanted to build a bike, complete frame everything in 24 hours.

Just to do it.

Oh, really?

Just to do it.

There was, there was no outcome with the, the end goal was to take the bike.

What was it?

Two hours away north to a show.

Yeah.

There was a show that weekend.

Yeah.

The original plan was we were all supposed to hop on bikes and ride to the show and

not like get rid of the show.

Um, that didn't happen, but the bike got finished in 24 hours.

Yeah.

It was cool.

I mean, complete.

We, we started, it was, uh, it was based off a, uh, 750 shadow.

And, uh, we built a high neck D rake.

Um, that boy was it.

Yes.

Uh, the neck of this bike was so tall, I couldn't reach it.

Yeah, he's not kidding.

Well, do you have to post the picture again?

Yeah.

Literally, I'm sitting on the seat and I cannot reach the bars.

It's hilarious.

Yeah.

So, uh, John asked us to, to come down and lend a hand with it.

It was cool.

He streamed the entire thing live.

Um, so there was a couple of cameras set up in one or two areas and then Juan was walking

around with a handheld.

And, um, so we started with a stripped down frame and then, uh, we used that much of it.

We used the neck.

We used the neck and we used, uh, no, he, he machined actual plates for it.

We used, uh, the very bottom of the downtubes, uh, flowing into the bottom of the chassis.

And then where the motor mounts.

Yeah.

Uh, and it was cool, man.

He's got a, one of those, uh, rotisserie jigs.

Uh, so Frank, Frank welded a complete frame, probably in about two and three hours.

Yeah.

It was pretty, pretty, it was pretty wild.

TIG weld, right?

I was kind of, yeah, I was kind of doing all TIG.

Yeah.

All TIG.

I was kind of doing prep work ahead for him, grinding and cleaning areas.

And then we'd get measurements and cut pieces and bring them over.

We just got Frank welding a long time and, uh, it was cool.

John, he had really laid it out, uh, kind of like an assembly line.

He had parts tables, uh, with all the prefab stuff on it that he wanted to put on there.

He made custom wheels.

Yeah.

Uh, for this bike.

Snowflake.

Uh, yeah, these like snowflake patterns, but he welded up the rims of the hubs.

It was really cool.

Um, so there was a ton of stuff fabricated on that bike.

And I don't mind telling you boys, because I don't have no shame.

About 2 30 in the morning, I didn't think I was going to make it.

But, uh, then I realized I hadn't eaten anything in like 14 hours.

So I, uh, got something to eat.

And then we were back at, uh, we started at, uh, I think 9 30 that morning,

9 30 that morning, Halloween, and we finished up at 9 30 the next morning.

And the bike was complete except for, um, I think a clutch cable and the ignition wiring.

Well, the bike was wired.

There was the issue with the voltage regular.

Yeah.

The regular.

Yeah.

So, uh, for all intents and purposes, a complete bike frame up 24 hours.

It was, it was crazy.

I'd love to do it here.

Yeah.

Pretty sweet.

Crazy.

I'd love to try it.

I mean, I'm game.

What are you guys doing next year?

Come back.

Yeah.

They win, man.

I'm there.

You guys got that shop now.

You might as well.

You got all the room.

Why not?

Yeah.

It's about as big as Johnson.

So it's an experience, man.

It was, it was a lot of fun, uh, really had a good time doing it.

And, uh, definitely something that's not going to happen.

Not something, yeah, not something you hear about all the time.

Like I think that's probably like the only 24 hour build that I've heard of.

So, uh, definitely a unique, uh, concept at least.

Yeah.

Mm hmm.

It was, it um, a lot of fun.

That's all I can say.

I want to, I would like to do it again.

Yeah.

It was a blast.

Maybe not in Florida.

No, I think it'd be cool to do it here.

I think, I think that'd be great, man.

Yeah.

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Yeah.

It'd be cool.

Yeah, you do, uh, 24 hour before a show, maybe, uh, get some charity involved.

Say like, Hey, we're going to be doing this.

So how long can we stand until we get it?

How long can we, you know, what is it going to take to get it there?

I mean, it's like kind of what we capture in our media for like people going up to the,

but crammed into 24 hours.

Yeah.

How do we, uh, put it all out there in one day?

No, I like the idea that sounds great.

And you guys got a new shop.

It looks great.

Uh, it would be something I'd like to get down there and, uh, you know, see the area and stuff.

Now your riding area and stuff I still with like would be better riding than what I have

around my, I might, you know, that'd be probably be something I would like to check out too.

We have, we have some of the best riding in the United States.

Yeah.

See, I've been through West Virginia.

Not nearly our opinion.

I mean, we've got some, some beautiful riding around here.

All I will say is if he does it, but we, we cheat for him to do it.

But if you don't like to run a front break, it gets interesting.

There's no flat land around here anywhere.

We are a mountain state for sure.

And we have developed this little system now that Frank's just up front because Frank's got

the heavier throttle hand than anybody else does.

But we just take turns pulling up behind him and we just put our front tire at his back tire to

keep him from, from rolling to stop on the, best front break ever.

Yeah.

It's efficient.

You're not wearing out break pads, man.

I, yeah, I am actually.

So he's rolling that thing with just that drum break.

So he's, yeah, the rear brakes on the shadows are not exactly the strongest, I guess.

Yeah.

Well, you guys had talked one time about doing like a, a camp out.

Well, yeah.

Yeah, that was part of the big plans on the charity bike.

We're going to have it off this time.

Please God take it off.

Jeez.

Yeah, we were, that was part of the whole charity bike event that we, we were working on planning.

We were going to have a big ride in camp out kind of like baby music festival sort of setup.

We ran into a lot of issues with timing and the logistics.

Found out just how hard it is to put on a big event like that.

Within having the idea and trying to pull it off in six months.

Yeah.

So we couldn't, we couldn't make it happen.

And then the finish of the bike got delayed so nothing was going to make sense.

But it's something we still talk about and something we still have on the table to, to plan.

The Fayetteville, West Virginia is about 45 minutes from here and it's New River Gorge area.

It's beautiful riding and it would be an opportune place to have a big ride in hang out,

you know, spend the weekend sort of thing.

Yeah, no, that'd be, that'd be really cool.

You guys ever finalized that?

That's, that's the thing, you know, about pro and stuff like this.

It all sounds good.

And you're like, yeah, no, we'll just ride somewhere and get a hotel or camp and yeah.

And then 10,000 things come up and you're like, oh, shit.

I didn't think about that.

You know, yeah.

Hey, he did it.

He did it.

You can just hold it a crazy sound effect this time.

So I'm going to give Bob Barker for the rest of this.

I should give you the Bob Barker, Mike.

Dude, that would be awesome.

Oh, shut up.

No problems.

Okay, man.

Well, we've talked about, um, I don't, I might repeat what you just said.

I don't know if Frank and I've thrown around the idea of picking a week,

uh, maybe even in North Carolina and, uh, just giving a bunch of people the dates and

saying, if you can come, come and come hang out and we'll show you the roads that we like around

there, uh, one cool one there, uh, especially since you're talking about relocating there,

you're not aware of when they're by some city there's a road called the road to nowhere.

Oh yeah.

Um, I can't remember the, the, uh, number assigned to it, but, uh, when they were building, uh,

was it either Lake Fontana or, uh, something off the Nantahala or.

It's Lake Fontana.

They, uh, they had to flood a town, uh, so they, yeah, yeah.

So they bought up all this land, all this property and stuff.

So they had to, uh, build a new road because on the other side, uh, from where this town was,

was a cemetery where all, you know, these people's families and stuff were buried.

So they said, we'll build a road to get you access.

So they started building the road and it's about 13 miles long, super fun road drive.

Um, and it just comes, uh, up to this, you come up with these big, you know,

concrete pillars on the road and there's a parking lot and there's a big, you know,

tunnel that they built for it and you walk through the tunnel and the pavements just stop.

They never finished building it.

So they like, uh, totally reneged on getting people access, you know,

so the cemetery is not anywhere close to where this road ends.

Right, right.

So the, their big fix for that was a couple of times a year.

They give them free ferry passes, you know, across the, you know, like,

see the cemetery or whatever, but it's called, check it out.

It's called the road to nowhere and, uh, they got this big sign there and it's like, uh,

a road to nowhere, a promise broken or something like that.

You can actually ride that road.

And it's, it's pretty wild.

It is not well maintained because, you know, it was never finished,

but it's not bad for the most part.

But we love to ride up there.

Typically when we're in the area, it's just cool, cool thing to do.

And apparently it's something that a lot of people that travel, they're

Yeah, I've been down there a handful of times and I,

I think I vaguely remember hearing something about it, but yeah, that's,

that sounds really, really cool.

Well, some local came up and said, Hey, go take the road to nowhere.

I don't know if I would be going here in the story.

You know, I've seen deliverance.

All right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We, we are in that live for sure.

Did it?

You didn't hear any banjos?

Yeah.

I think you can get to the end of the first time we went up there,

we went through the tunnel.

I had to do in banjos ready to go.

Yeah.

On the phone and we were in the tunnel and you started hearing that banjo music.

That's awesome.

Yeah, yeah.

You guys are playing a ride like that.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

Like I said, I, I like, I try to get to that area once a year.

I haven't been, I don't think I went last year, but I'm definitely,

definitely playing it on going this year.

I grew up going to that area every summer.

My dad's from South Carolina and actually right outside of the

charity is where my parents met.

My mom's from West Virginia.

My dad's from South Carolina.

They were both camping at the same campground as teenagers.

Smoke mark.

Yeah.

Smoke mark and they met there and they kind of courted by like five years by mail.

Then my dad was going to Vietnam and they got married right before he left.

And yeah, they got married in 15, 15, whatever.

However long it's been since 1969.

They've been married over ten years, but they, they met right there.

So because his family is from the area, they're from South Carolina.

And so it was only like a three hour drive from the charity.

So or maybe that was really.

55 years this year.

Yeah.

Mask.

So I, I grew up going there every summer.

I've always, you know, I've told them I've felt my life all the time.

I'm like, this, this place like really goes like home.

Yes.

Like I've got a lot of, a lot of memories and things like tied up, you know, with the area.

It's a very special place and it's also special for me too.

My grandfather was Cherokee.

So going down to the place, he was adopted and ended up being raised in Northern West Virginia.

But he was born on the reservation in Cherokee.

So it's always, it's always fun to go there once a year and just kind of feel like I'm

connecting the family I didn't know I had.

Right.

It was very cool.

Remember when we were going to learn Cherokee?

Yeah.

We, we spent a good six months trying to learn Cherokee.

Really?

For real?

It's, yeah.

Sadly, it's, it's a language that's dying.

They only have, I think, 500 native speakers.

Really?

They've got about 1500, I think, that speak both English and Cherokee,

but they've only got about 500 native speakers.

Unless it's a, it's actually a language that's disappearing.

At all.

I'm not very smart.

Needless to say, you failed to take that on.

Yeah.

I, I can barely speak English, let alone try and add, you know, a second language to it.

Like I've thought about that, like really thought about that.

Like it just doesn't make sense in my head.

Like now, like if you speak two languages and you're like, I don't know if I'd be able to like

shut one off and get onto the other one and know when I'm speaking on one thing,

or think about like, that's a chair.

Or it's a, you know, to be able to have all of them thoughts at one time.

You know, you know, I'll chair.

I'll chair.

I don't, I don't know.

Oh my gosh.

I just thought it would be, you know, cool for the situation behind it.

Most, you know, we're there every year.

But I gotta tell you, even if you learn a little bit of it, the prospects of like walking into

one of their establishments and actually trying to do this.

Yeah, it's, I've, I, uh,

Yeah, I used to stay in Cherokee when I'd go down there.

And there's a little quality in or something right down the road from,

there's a waffle house.

I remember that.

But yeah, I don't, I didn't see anybody that looked like a Cherokee.

You know, walking around very, very few.

You kind of got, you got to know where to go.

We met, we met one of those choppers.

Really?

Very cool.

Yeah.

The first year, yeah, it was the first year the infamous ironhead was on the pit.

We were riding over Cherokee to get some breakfast and a croak down.

And it was wild.

Frank was, we stayed with the bike and there was a lady, I guess,

kind of in a trailer across the road.

And she was not all there, man.

And she wandered down to see what all these guys were doing.

And we had a couple of other guys like, you know, take her back up to her place.

She was not all there.

But this guy pulls up on this cool, long chop.

And he's like, well, ironhead.

We got him back going by then.

He was having a charging issue, is what problems battered that guy.

Generator was crap.

And, well, he spent about five hours on one day trying to track down a battery point.

But anyway, yeah, the guy was like, yeah, I got a shot right down the road.

And if you guys end up needing anything, you know, come find me.

But that was, that was like the gist of the come find me.

That was, we've, we've tried, we tried but can't run it.

But super cool guy.

Really cool bike.

I can't remember what it was.

Just shovel head.

Was it shovel?

Purple and green, man.

Very cool.

So what all you guys got working on now?

What's going on besides?

I'm working on Pedro.

I've got basically everything mocked up.

Got some little bit of paint to finish up, but now I just need to do some engine cleanup

and some engine work and just put it back together and then why I'm done.

Yeah, it's easy.

It's always that easy.

It's just that and what I'll do is I'll wait until the last day before I need to ride it

and do all that.

Yeah.

Been there.

Yeah, I totally get it.

The first, the first time I went on.

No, I took a trip the first time when I rode to Arkansas with you guys.

I was riding to our 1600 road star and it was less than 12 hours before I was supposed to leave.

And we're riding all the way to Arkansas that day next day.

The road star is literally the whole front ends off, the whole rear ends off the whole bike.

Put it all back together and got on it and rode it.

Had a cool fix on that trip.

We were having an issue with the carburetor and this is one of the reasons we love staying at the

place we stay at because the owner of Blaine, he's got a big shop right behind the motel,

lodge, whatever you want to call it and he's not shy about if you need a tool,

tell me what you need, you know, that kind of stuff or whatever.

But he ended up taking a plastic bottle cap off of a pop bottle,

you know, little twist on caps and did a little venting or whatever and got it on

the carb on Frank's bike and that got him all the way home.

He is.

Super cool, man.

And he's got like all those, he's the guy, you know, with all the

the secrets that you've never heard, you know, that kind of stuff.

He's like, oh, man, you can take this, this.

Some guy who affects this.

Very cool.

Yeah, that's always cool.

That's always cool.

He's always willing to help out.

I came out last year we were there and I came out and used putting a bolt in the heat shield

on my bike and it's like, what's up, man?

And he was like, you lost the bolt.

I went and found one, you know.

Very cool.

Yeah, I have to have you guys send me that address.

I said, I try to go down there once a year.

So I'm always looking for a place to stay.

Yeah, it's a town called ELA, I think ELA.

Yeah, it's like, it's like exactly midway between Brighton Street.

Gotcha.

Exactly halfway.

But I'll get that to you.

Yeah, so he's working on Pedro.

I am working on Violet Sportster.

I don't have that for a go of greatly shorten my punch list.

The thing for me is getting into fabricating axle spacers.

And my math is kind of sucking.

So I'm just trying to get that.

Well, what it is, I'm using that you guys have seen at this mount for dual Tepico calipers.

And I'm going to run one caliper to foot pedaling and I'm going to run the other caliper

to a lever on the handlebars.

So I'm not going to put a front brake on the bike.

But I want to be able to have a little bit of stock rollback on the wheels.

So the mount that I'm using, this bike has a lead sled, very narrow hard fill on it.

And I've already had to trim down some of the thickness of it.

And I'm just kind of pulling my beard out about getting that wheel perfectly centered.

I do a little math, got an axle spacer, put it on, take a look.

There's your measurements, not quite right.

Then I run into, I can't move, the rotor has to stay right here.

I can't move the rotor moves.

So then I got to look at spacers, maybe on the on the sprocket or something like that.

So I'm down with it and that's been the pain in the butt on this one.

It's getting there.

Other than that, just running those brake lines and

I'm sending the rockers on the Springer.

The bike is always ridden like super crazy.

And it's a butt manufacturing Springer, which they did, I think from 68 to 70.

So not very long.

It was, it's a completely bolt together Springer.

And now over the years, somebody's put some, some welds around it.

But apparently they're not an easy one to find like in, you know, complete form.

So it's pretty, it's pretty rad to have it.

But apparently nobody ever checked or greased the bushings for the rockers.

Because I took it completely apart to do some work on it and they're chewed up.

Two of them were completely in half and the other two have big holes in them.

So we're going to send those off to our buddy Sammy in Ohio, who's a machinist.

Sammy Crestoff, if you guys are familiar with Sammy.

And he's going to machine some new crash pushing for me.

So I got to get those off and get them in the mail.

Get them going.

So I want to take that by issue, just because I've not been able to get them out of the way.

Nice.

Yes, I don't have too much left to do.

Those things, that's about it.

I was going to do a little bit more pain in the heart, but I decided that can wait

until when it's cold and there's white stuff out there.

Now we have the bouncy house paint booth, man.

It's a fun time.

Yeah, yeah.

Awesome.

The paint room looks like a kid's birthday party, man.

I should get a clown uniform to paint on.

You should, man.

Please, please do, please do.

Don't tempt me with a good time.

Yeah, yeah.

What's your reindeer outfit that you put on that one year at Christmas Day?

Shut up.

Oh, search back through there.

I'll bring it back.

Search back through our Instagram page, man.

You'll find it.

There's pictures of Franklin and reindeer, too.

Awesome.

It's great.

Good stuff.

You never know if there's a video lurking out there somewhere of him.

You remember when you were in grade school, maybe you did.

Maybe you didn't put, they would give you like a potato sack.

Maybe you did the sack races, popping them up together.

There was a video out there of him sack racing around the shop.

Man.

The internet's forever, Frank.

I really don't care.

Sack racing.

I mean, dare me once at least twice.

I'll do it.

I don't care.

Our buddy always says, you guys probably see the comments on the left.

He's always like, I'm here for the final two minutes.

You know, it's really good stupid.

That's when it gets stupid.

There's like usually like the last 10 minutes or a while.

But at that point, what do we have to lose?

Brad.

All right.

Derek, you got anything else for Mike and Frank?

Don't got anything else for them.

You guys fell along with our Beards Build series and only won't be able to attend.

But you'll see all the finished bikes when we get them coming along.

And hopefully we can, we'll see you in Pittsburgh.

We can touch base then and probably put together something else that we can,

you know, collaborate on, figure out with.

I hope I get an invite to Josh's house this year.

Well, at least they will.

It's imperative, man.

You got a what's what's happening?

Getting to like that.

You got to ask for a ride on the golf cart.

Oh yeah.

Dude, it's pitch black.

It's what, like 2 30 in the morning, 2 30 in the morning.

Pitch black on his property.

He's got a pretty big piece of property there.

And we're doing hot laps in a golf cart in his backyard.

It's crazy.

He's like, we might hit a tree.

We might not.

I can't remember where it is.

You know, we're just kind of the whole time, man.

But it's a, yeah, Josh is a super talented guy, super cool guy, man.

We appreciate it.

I was supposed to go up in mid-August to hang out with them and work with them in his life.

Yeah.

Beyonce.

Yeah.

I love Josh.

Super cool guy.

Man, if you, if you don't get an invite, right, we'll sneak you.

We'll sneak you, man.

I think I was staying there.

Okay.

So I was staying there and I was like, hey, we're going to Josh's house.

We're over here.

He was like, okay, I'm going to go and ride back to the hotel and then I'll see where you're at.

And then I think it turned into a nap.

And then since it turned into a nap, then he's like, I didn't get an invite.

Like phones don't work two ways and you didn't know how to reach out.

I think during the time period, I was posting like, hey, look, when your host is doing a burnout

in his garage, you know, that tonight's going to be great.

Anyway, look, we're doing, you know, often, you know, I don't remember if you were like

seeing that in live action or not.

But I mean, like the pity party is almost a year now.

I'm not over it.

It's the wound.

The wound's still there, man.

It still hurts.

But the nap thing totally tracks.

I can see, I can see me.

I lay down for an hour nap and five hours later, it's like, oh, shit.

That was great.

But yeah, I'm planning on being at Josh's again this year and doing the same scenario.

I, you know, I like that I can ride around shenanigans.

I mean, that guy is always a hoot and harder to hang out with plus he's smart as hell.

I mean, like he'll be like a goofball one second and then he's like shooting like

real technical facts at you another and you're like, oh, you just switched up on me like

down to the decimal point.

I'm sorry I didn't catch that.

He's the, he's the one person, not one person, but he's one of the few people that every

time I get around him, I learned something.

Yeah.

Like being, being serious, but then also every time I get around him, I want to break some stuff too.

It's, it goes hand in hand.

Yep.

Yeah.

Josh super cool guy, but I've

hell of a builder too.

Like he blows.

Yeah.

God, the guitar bike that you built was just crazy, crazy.

I will, I will get a set of wheels from him before I die.

Oh, yeah.

Twist, twisted invaders for sure.

Absolutely.

Before I die, it might be 10 years, but I'm getting us that.

All right, you guys.

Plug your stuff.

Well, you guys got, you just got the Insta.

We've got the Instagram page.

We do have a YouTube channel.

Sleepy.

It's very sleepy.

Yeah.

It's very sleepy, but it's Peter and Buddy's Big Revival.

It's got some numbers after it, but if you type in Peter and Buddy's Big Revival, it'll come up.

So we'll, two will trash.

We, we have a company called Two Wheel Trash.

Our buddy Adam started the company, I think in 2017.

And it's all like shirts and hats and patches and, you know, the kind of stuff like that.

But we were fortunate enough, Adam turned that over to us back in December.

And it's actually going to be going live very soon.

Tell them when, man.

July 4th, Independence Day.

Yeah.

So we got some cool stuff in the works, some secret stuff.

Why you gotta be creepy out of here?

Just to mess with you, man, just because I know it annoys you.

And that's what I'm here for.

But yeah, we're looking, there was just, you know, it's, it's a legitimate business.

So there were a whole lot of legalities and you got to make all the paperwork happen.

But we've gotten through all that stuff and, and yeah, so the site's going to be going live.

July 4th, www.twowheeltrash.com.

And there's a two wheel trash Instagram page.

And yeah.

Oh, and we have, we have kind of just like a little pet project.

We've got another Instagram called chop shop shots.

It's just a bunch of black and white photography of stuff from around the shop,

whether it's the bikes we're working on or just something that I look at and go, that looks cool.

But it's, it's pretty neat.

Everything there is in black and white, no color in that world.

Chopper life and black and white.

Yeah.

So that's what we got.

Very cool.

Well, sweet.

Yeah.

I appreciate you guys coming on.

Like I said, a huge fan of you guys, what you do.

And you guys are cool as fuck too.

So I enjoy running into you guys at shows when we actually do get to run into each other at shows, Mike.

He's totally screwed that one up.

Glory days.

I'm not talking to anybody until I find you.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

All right, man.

That's what he says.

Yeah, right.

Somebody walks up, Derek, if you guys are separated, you walk up.

No offense, bro.

I'm going to be like, dude, talk to you.

Heart in the sea.

Just swim in through before.

Yeah.

Got to find Nick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That method would probably work.

So I definitely wouldn't hurt.

Try.

All right.

First shovel ad you see.

You're going squirrel.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, maybe.

Yeah, thank you guys again for coming on.

Appreciate it.

Definitely have to do this again sometime and get together and ride.

You know, definitely.

Absolutely.

Yeah, that's that's what we love to hang.

We love to talk bikes, talk whatever, but we love to put miles on bikes.

Like to get with the good friends out and put the miles down, man.

And we really appreciate you guys having us on here.

Absolutely.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate you guys.

I'll have to put together a time.

Maybe that could be one of our trips, Nick, where we figure out how we can be

where we can ride with these guys.

Yeah, I'm down.

Let us know.

We'll make it happen.

Door's open, guys.

All righty.

You guys have a great night now.

You too.

Thanks so much.

Thank you.

I'm clicking.

I got to click all the buttons to stop all this the the streaming.

Otherwise, otherwise we have people like you guys aren't done.

Happened one time.

One time.

Right.

That's what I said with that group of orphanage kids that I lost.

One time.

Just one time.

I never forgive you.

Right.

If you guys have us on here again in the future, you can pre pre lay wagers of how

many times I'm going to have to put the over and under on the potty breaks.

Yes.

There we go.

Speaking of.

Just the one just me.

Hey, take that mic off, man.

I did take it.

Right.

All right, guys.

It was good talking to you.

We'll get together at glory days and hang out.

Hell yeah.

All right.

See you, Mike.

You guys take it easy.

Hey, everybody.

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Toyota A90

Harley-Davidson Sportster

Fiat 600

Harley-Davidson Electra Glide

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hardtail frame

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