TFL Car Chat Oct 13, 2025

Ep. 306: We Bought 12 Cars In 2025 - These Are Our Least & Most Favorite!

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Car

Ford Bronco

The Ford Bronco Everglades is a special version of the Bronco that is built for off-roading. It has special features that help it handle tough outdoor conditions.

Car

Fiat 124

The Fiat 124 is a small car made by the Italian company Fiat. It was popular in the 1970s and is known for its good looks and performance.

Car

Ford Everglades

The Ford Everglades is a version of the Ford Bronco that is built for off-roading. It has special features that help it handle rough trails and outdoor adventures better than regular vehicles.

Concept

off-roading

Off-roading means driving a vehicle on rough surfaces instead of regular roads. It's often done for fun or adventure, and special vehicles are built to handle these tough conditions.

Part

alternator

The alternator is a part of the car that generates electricity while the engine is running. It helps keep the battery charged and powers things like the lights and radio.

Part

locking differentials

Locking differentials help both wheels on the same axle turn together, which is useful when driving on rough or slippery surfaces. It gives better traction and control.

Term

eruption green

Eruption Green is a special color that some cars can come in. It's not very common, and some people might like it while others might not.

Term

MSRP

MSRP is the price that the car maker suggests the dealer should sell the car for. It's like a suggested price, but you might pay less after negotiating.

Term

disconnectable sway bar

A disconnectable sway bar is a part of the car's suspension that can be turned off to allow for better movement when driving off-road. It helps the vehicle handle rough terrain more easily.

Term

35s

'35s' means the tires are 35 inches tall. Bigger tires help the car drive better on rough ground because they give it more height and grip.

Term

The Sasquatch package is a special set of features for some vehicles that makes them better for off-road driving. It includes things like bigger tires and special parts to help the car handle rough terrain.

Term

four-cylinder engine

A four-cylinder engine means the car has four separate chambers where fuel and air mix and burn to create power. These engines are usually smaller and can save on gas compared to bigger engines.

Term

V6 engine

A V6 engine has six cylinders arranged in a V shape, which helps it produce more power than a four-cylinder engine. It's often used in larger cars and trucks.

Term

winch

A winch is a tool that helps pull things, like getting a stuck vehicle out of mud or snow. It's like a strong rope that can be wound up to pull something closer.

Term

torque

Torque is a way to measure how strong an engine is when it comes to moving the car. More torque means the car can speed up faster and pull heavier things.

Term

horsepower

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower usually means the car can go faster and accelerate better.

Term

fuel economy

Fuel economy tells you how far a car can go on a certain amount of gas. Better fuel economy means the car uses less gas to travel the same distance, which can save you money.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

The Jeep Wrangler is a popular vehicle designed for off-road driving. The JL is the current version that has been around since 2018.

Car

Jeep Recon

The Jeep Recon is a new electric Jeep that is made for off-roading and adventures. It's designed to be tough and can handle rough terrains while being eco-friendly.

Car

Dodge Viper

The Dodge Viper is a fast sports car that has a very powerful engine. The first version came out in the early 1990s and is famous for its unique look and speed.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

The C4 ZR1 Corvette is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette from the 1980s and 1990s. It was designed to be faster and more powerful than regular Corvettes.

Term

V10 engine

A V10 engine has ten cylinders and is shaped like a 'V'. This type of engine is powerful and helps cars like the Viper go really fast.

Term

widow maker

'Widow maker' is a nickname for cars that are very powerful and can be hard to control. The Viper is called this because it can be tricky to drive if you're not careful.

Car

Shelby Cobra

The Shelby Cobra is a classic sports car that is very fast and powerful. It was made to compete with other famous cars and is loved by car fans for its history and performance.

Car

Ford Cobra

The Ford Cobra is a special version of the Ford Mustang that is designed for high performance and racing. It has a powerful engine and is popular among car fans.

Concept

side pipes

Side pipes are special exhaust pipes that come out of the side of a car instead of the back. They look cool and make the car sound powerful, but they can get really hot and burn you if you touch them.

Term

Chrysler

Chrysler is a car company in the United States that makes different types of cars. They used to own other brands like Dodge and Lamborghini, which means they had a lot of influence in the car industry.

Term

aluminum engine

An aluminum engine is made from a lightweight metal called aluminum, making the car lighter and often faster and more fuel-efficient than heavier engines.

Term

dual overhead cam engine

A dual overhead cam engine has two rods that control the opening and closing of the valves, which helps the engine run better and use fuel more efficiently.

Car

Dodge Demon

The Dodge Demon is a special version of the Dodge Challenger sports car that is designed for racing. It has a very powerful engine that helps it go really fast.

Term

Andre, you know, we bought 12 cars this year.

That is crazy.

That is way too many cars.

We should be buying 12 cars.

But in this video slash podcast, if you're watching it on YouTube or you're listening

to it on one of your favorite podcast platforms, we're going to be talking about the 12 cars

that we bought and what we love and hate about them because this is a mixed bag.

This is everything from new to old to classic.

So we're going to be kind of skipping around.

I didn't put them in any particular order, but we will.

It's going to be unpredictable.

Yeah, it's unpredictable.

We will put in that order at the end to kind of tell you our favorites.

And if you're wondering where Tommy is, where's Tommy?

Tommy is on a plane flying to Detroit to drive a bunch of classic Volkswagen's and

also new ones.

I think both.

Yes.

Both new and old.

So once again, we've got the most excellent Andre here substituting for Tommy.

And speaking of Andre, there's also another podcast that both him and Tommy are on.

We should probably do a quick promo for that before we start.

I'm talking, of course, about TFL Talking Trucks.

Yes.

So TFL Talking Trucks podcast is turning 300 episodes this week.

We've got a special guest.

Special guest.

So stay tuned.

This is going to happen Friday.

This Friday in October, we're going to do a special 300th episode for TFL Talking Trucks.

Could it be Mr. Trucks?

You'll have to wait and see.

I'm thinking it's Mr. Trucks.

And then Tommy is, of course, on car-ish as well.

So if you like things that are car-adjacent, it's the whole team having fun with cars.

So check that out.

And of course, I have to thank our, I hate this, we were just talking about this.

Why do they call it Patreon?

Are you guys patrons?

Are you supporters?

Are you just really cool people that love cool car stuff?

They're very cool people, especially TAD.

Because TAD is also on our live show on patreon.com.

Thank you, TAD, for your support.

And also so you can interact with us during these shows as well.

Yeah.

You get this first.

You get to ask us questions.

So if you have any questions for us, we will answer them.

You can give us comments.

And if you want to help support this, because YouTube revenue is just in the toilet right

now, where should they have to?

Patreon.com slash TFL car.

That's our only location on patreon.com.

We've grown the supporters, but I think about like maybe 20 or 30 new people in the last

month or so.

So welcome.

If you're new, really thank you.

And let us know if there's anything else we can do for you.

Maybe we should do what the other podcasters are doing and do like a limited TFL watch.

Maybe?

No, I don't think so.

Glasses?

Limited glasses?

T-shirts?

Hitches?

Hitches.

There you go.

Way save hitches.

Limited hitches.

Do TFL hitches.

I love that.

Yes.

And we'll make them in TFL colors.

So you know you're a TFL supporter if you have a red hitch.

Yes.

All right.

That's more trucky, but let's get back to cars.

So number one on my list, we recently bought this actually, and that is the Ford Bronco

Everglades.

Yeah.

When you guys went shopping for it, we didn't go shopping for it.

Well, it kind of appeared.

It just turned up.

Yeah, this was not a car we were looking for.

We had actually purchased the very first Bronco.

You remember it was the first edition, which had all the bells and whistles.

And so we bought that.

And I got to tell you, Andre, I didn't love that car that much.

I thought it was expensive back then.

Now it seems cheap.

Back then I thought it was like 63 grand back then.

I thought it was expensive.

We had this kind of like octane orange, I don't know what it's called.

It was like this weird combination.

I think it was like cyber orange or something.

Yeah, it was more yellow than orange.

I didn't love the color.

Because it was the first edition, we had a problem with our roof.

It sounded like there were little miners, kind of little...

Little gerbils.

No, miners, like working the rocks in the roof.

Like tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

And then of course Ford had to send us a new roof, which they did.

So thank you.

So that was kind of annoying.

And because it was the first edition and because it was so special, I kind of felt bad taking

it off-road.

But we did.

We did.

But I felt bad about it, I worried about it.

And I'd never like worrying about vehicles, especially when you're off-roading them.

But then we wore it on a local Ford dealership, BrightonFord.com.

Before we get to that, can I do a shout out?

We just put up a video today where one of the cars that we bought, actually, I don't

think I put that on...

It's not on this list.

Oh my God, it's okay.

So that's not 12, 13 cars, all right, we'll get to that.

I just forgot about that.

The Fiat 124.

Is it the Baker's Dozen?

13.

Spider 2000.

Baker's Dozen?

If you want to see that video, head on over to AltiaFollow.

We'll get to that one last.

But that is...

Well, I'm going to give away the ending here, dude.

That's my favorite car that we bought this year.

Really?

Yeah.

Geez.

I'll tell you why.

Or if you want to know why, watch the video.

But let's go back to the Broncos.

So we were at BrightonFord.

BrightonFord, Colorado.

We were buying a truck, something else.

And this Everglades just happened to kind of fall.

Sometimes cars just fall in your lap.

Like the Fiat.

Well, that one didn't fall in our lap.

That one we bought on purpose.

But this one was just there.

And Tommy had gone on the program for the Everglades.

Now, you want to tell them what the Everglades is, why it's special?

It's now discontinued.

So it's even more special.

It was discontinued when we bought it.

Yeah.

So it's a special trim.

Really, Everglades refers to, it does have this raised air intake or snorkel on the passenger

side of it.

And basically, it's a really off-roading version of the Bronco.

They also did more than that.

Full-size Bronco.

They moved the alternator up on the engine.

Yes.

I wasn't done yet.

Oh, I apologize.

Keep going.

So it's got 35s.

It's got locking differentials.

And they increased the forwarding depth, like Roman is saying.

So it's not just about the air.

It's also about the electrical components and several other components on this vehicle.

So and it also in this, I think it's called eruption green.

Yep.

So and it was discontinued.

I guess it wasn't a very popular trim.

Yeah.

So this car, our dealer had bought from another dealer because it was sitting on his lot for

like a year.

And it's a 2024 model.

Yeah.

And so he gave us a bit of a discount on it.

Not a lot.

It was like 50.

I think the MSRP was like 56 and we got it for like 54.

He gave us a couple grand off of it.

He had actually been driving it and Tommy just fell in love with this car when he first

took it up to the U.P., the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Yeah, that's where the event was.

And they took it into some pretty deep and muddy water and he fell in love with it.

And so I felt we should buy it because, you know, we specialize in off-roaders.

I don't think we gave the first Bronco much of a chance, the first edition, before we

sold it.

We don't usually keep them that long.

And this was one that Tommy loved.

So I thought, well, let's give it a shot.

And it's one of those vehicles that kind of has everything you need and nothing you don't.

So the one thing it is missing is the disconnectable sway bar.

But everything else, like you said, it's got the Sasquatch package.

So it's got the locking differentials and 35s.

And perhaps the reason it didn't sell, I would say, this is a Red Column.

This is up the Rock Garden and Red Column that you're watching right now.

That's a very difficult trail, especially that part.

The one thing that I think kept it from being sold is it only had the four cylinder.

Yeah, which is our house, 2.3 liter.

So there is no V6 option for this particular trim.

And it also comes with a winch, we have to say.

So there is a winch that kind of juts out in the front.

And it is a very capable recovery vehicle as well.

But that four cylinder is actually a very good engine.

Yeah, I don't. Would you agree?

I don't miss a six cylinder.

Yeah, there's never been a time where I thought to myself, gosh, I wish I had the six cylinder.

The four cylinder is plenty torquey, especially for off-roading.

You don't need a lot of very spunky.

You don't need a lot of horsepower.

It gets, you know, decent fuel economy.

And it actually makes the vehicle lighter because it's got two less cylinders.

So in some ways, it's a little bit more nimble.

The other thing I love about it, there's two colors that are red hot right now

in the car world, new car world, right?

And you don't see them too often because in America,

unfortunately, dealers order the cars because they buy the cars.

So we're actually not buying them from Ford or buying them from the dealer.

And dealers are very, let's say, conservative.

And so they always get black, white, silver, silver.

That's it. Yeah.

And so, you know, when you get something else, then it makes it special.

And so eruption green, like you said, that dark green color is red hot.

And the other color that's hot is what I can show you here.

I'll show you. You guys won't see it if you're listening to this.

But what am I holding up?

You're holding a brand new iPhone 17 Pro.

And what color is it?

It's an orange. Yeah.

Orange is obviously the new, the new black, the new black.

No, orange is a popular color.

But this program is not brought to you by iPhone.

No, it's not. No.

I also, I'm going to do a little bit.

I'm going to jump into the ramp business.

So I upgrade my phone every other generation.

Not because I have to, but because we use the phone so much

that like my old 15 by noon, my battery was dead by noon, Andre.

And I don't get up at like two.

So, you know, like it had like six hours of use and that's how much we're using it.

And so by that point, you got to plug it in or charge it up and it gets to be a pain.

Especially if you're in a program.

So because of that.

And also the other part of my rant is you go and look at the battery

and it says it's 90 percent.

Now, when I bought that 15, I had two days of use out of it, two full days.

And now with the battery at 90 percent, according to Apple, I only get like seven hours.

That seems like 25 percent.

You know what happens?

And I don't know if this is true.

But when a new iPhone comes out, somebody at Apple goes,

kill all the batteries on every phone.

I think you're right.

And they really go after your batteries.

I think it's called the software update.

And we kill every battery.

Yeah, the new iOS just.

And so last time I upgraded, I went to Apple and I traded my phone in.

And then I got the new phone, the 15, I went from a 13 to a 15.

Yes.

And they could not switch the the eSIM.

So they gave me the phone, but they gave it to me and they took the old phone

and I didn't have a phone because the eSIM wouldn't work.

So then I'm like, OK, I'll just go to Verizon and have them do it,

except it was just when the new phone came out and there were 300 million students

because this is CU there, all getting new phone.

And so they couldn't even help me.

So they said, well, if you want, you can make an appointment for like two days from now.

I'm like, I can't have not.

I mean, you know, this is your work, your business, my life.

Yes, it only works when it's online.

Otherwise, it doesn't work because it has no internet connectivity.

What I mean online is like if it has Wi-Fi, otherwise it wasn't working.

So I kind of figured out if I went to Longmont, which also has a Verizon store,

there's no University of Colorado there and then they did it for me.

But it was a huge pain.

So this summer I was like, you know what, I'm going to not do this.

I learned my lesson.

I'm going to go to Verizon.

So I went to Verizon straight up straight up and they said, great.

What we'll do is we'll give you.

I think Apple would have given me like $420 for the phone.

And Verizon was like 390.

They were less or something like 350.

But with Verizon, they lock you into a three year deal.

So are you now locked back in?

So the new one was 1100.

Yes.

And the guy said, you're going to have to really basically only pay the difference,

which is a hundred bucks.

And we'll amortize that difference over three years.

So it comes out to like two bucks.

I'm like, great, let's do that.

So usually this whole transaction takes forever, but they gave me the new phone

and they said you have 30 days to bring the old phone back.

So I go home and actually it's pretty seamless.

When you transfer the phone, you just put hold them next to each other

and Apple's got that worked out and they talked to each other.

They talked to each other.

So like two hours later, I had my new phone.

The sim was working.

The ESIM was working.

So I go back to Verizon to return my old phone, which I had signed up for a new

contract for, which was going to be $2 more a month.

And I look at my contract and all of a sudden it's 25 bucks more a month.

And I'm like, what?

What the hell?

What happened?

Right.

And the guy looks at me and he says, oh, we don't have you here for trading in a phone.

And I was like, I was just here.

It was yesterday.

Your man said, no problem.

He signed me up for the new program.

And then like they didn't, they basically didn't forgot about it.

Forgot about it.

Yeah, they didn't put it in there.

And then like, you know, 48 hours ensued where they were trying to figure out

like what promotion they had.

And you know, whenever there's a new promotion, it's never promotional.

It's always good for them.

It's never good for you.

It's never good for me.

And it's so, it's so convoluted and it's so, uh, non-transparent that you

can't figure out, but, you know, but, but I was looking at it and it was like,

oh, minus 40.

So like they said, minus, I traded it and they were like, finally minus 40 bucks

a month, which apparently was what they were like trading it in.

And then I look at my bill and it had gone up.

How does that work?

How does it say minus 40 bucks a month?

And then you look at the promotion and it's like, it was like five bucks more a month.

I just got tired of arguing with, they just wore me out.

Andre, they just literally wore me out.

I gave up, I gave up.

I was like screw it, I gave up.

Yeah, just, just, just, you know, convoluted.

If you ever go on the Verizon app, good luck because it's, it's indecipherable.

And I bet you that's on purpose.

So the last thing I'm going to say as part of this rant is I think Apple should

just do the service.

I think that they should do a deal with Tesla, not with Tesla, with SpaceX, sorry,

where forget the landline stuff, just go right with the satellite stuff and cut

Verizon completely out of it.

Cause I've used, I've used AT&T, I've used Verizon in my life.

I've used, um, T-Mobile and they all suck ass.

Wow.

You heard the here first.

They just do, they just do.

They are, there's no competition apparently.

They all, in my opinion, ever say that before it gets sued, they all

collude somehow that make the process impossible.

They make it as a user-friendly as possible.

And I don't know why a company like Apple, which for the most part tries to

make things easy.

Like I said, switching over the phones was very painless.

They make this whole process so not transparent, so painful, so ugly that you

just don't want to deal with them.

It gets worse though.

Since you want to make this about iPhones, let me, let me tell you my story.

I switched my last phone, not this year, but last year and I went to a store

that said Verizon on top of it and I was kind of not treated super great.

So I called Verizon after my experience there.

I'm sure that that solved it.

But, and they said, this is not our store.

They said, they said, no, this is true.

They said there's a, there's stores out there that are like franchise that buy

the rights to show Verizon logo on the top of it, but it's not operated by Verizon.

Can you believe that?

Yeah, I believe, you know, you know what?

We'll get back to the cars in a second.

I have one conclusion here.

Okay.

And this is the thing I miss the most since COVID.

What happened to people who are good at their jobs?

It's so rare to find somebody now who like, they exist, but it's hard to find them.

You know, for the most part, the people you run into are just starting or have no

clue what they're doing or don't care me or don't care what they're doing.

Once upon a time, I will pay more money if I could find somebody who is actually

competent at what they do and shows me that from the first minute I interact with them.

But you know, who was like that?

A new friend, Charlie, who was here last week, you know, the tow truck owner from Texas.

Yeah, I felt like he knew exactly.

Yeah, he knew he was passionate about his job.

He was a business owner.

He was really into it.

David's like that too.

Yes, you know, maybe it's just an old curmogeny, you know, Roman speaking.

But like I said, I went to the Verizon store, the guy took all my information, made

me sign 15 things and then I go back the next day and they're like, you're trading

in a phone.

I'm like, yeah, like completely like, like it never happened.

Like, like it just never happened.

All right, so let's finish with the Bronco.

I like it.

Andre, I have to say, I like the Bronco a lot.

I think, you know, as a Jeep guy, I hate to say that because I love Jeeps as well.

But if you were to ask me, you know, which one I would rather take on a road trip, it

would definitely be the Bronco just because I think what's happened with Jeep is

that they had the world to themselves for too long.

It took them too long to upgrade.

And I'm talking about the Wrangler now.

It took them too long, right?

The JL, it's like seven years old now.

And when they did update it, they put a new grill on it and a new internal screen.

That was it.

And then Bronco came along and basically made a comfortable off-roader that, you know,

solve, I bet you what they did was they like benchmarked all the stuff that the

Wrangler does wrong and they fixed it.

I just went down there, you know, they said, OK, the seat is too upright and too

close to the steering wheel.

Let's make it electric and check, OK?

You know, the suspension, and this is going to be, I don't want to get in the big

solid axle versus independent suspension argument, but the suspension is good

off-road, but it's not good on-road.

Check, we'll fix that.

The steering is vague on-road.

It's hard to keep in your lane.

The mirrors go away with your door when you remove the door.

How about we put the mirrors on to the hood?

Exactly, check, check.

And then it's also very tight inside the Wrangler, at least for big people.

So let's make the Bronco much bigger.

Check.

And then, you know, the Wrangler has all these special additions.

But the problem with it is a lot of them are more appearance package than actual,

like, you know, mechanical mechanical stuff.

And so Bronco came out with all these different, the badlands, you know,

the big bend, the Sasquatch, where basically Jeep then had to go and come up

with the extreme recon, right, with the 35s.

And why didn't Jeep come with 35s from the factory?

Why did it take the Bronco to come up with 35s?

Because they were by themselves.

Yeah, because they were following and not leading.

And so I'm hoping, Jeep, that this puts a B in your bonnet, because I want to buy

the next Wrangler, but you guys have got to step up your game.

And I'm sorry, but I don't think the 4xE is what people are looking for.

In this world, I think people would rather have more comfort and more

creature comforts than electrified Wrangler.

But don't lose the jeepiness of it also.

Yeah, of course. They know that.

Yes. Yeah.

So let's move on, because this show could be three hours long if we are 13 vehicles.

Let's jump to the next one we just bought.

And that is the first gen Viper.

Now there are five generations of Viper, Andre, but really three, really three.

Here we have the Viper Racing.

It's natural competitor in the wild.

We'll talk about this in a second.

The C4ZR1 Corvette.

You have really taken to the Viper.

Tell me why.

So I'm a child of the 90s.

I was in high school in the early 90s to mid 90s.

And then I was and this is when the Viper was first introduced.

The Viper RT10 that you purchased for the company for our fleet is in 1994.

1994. This was I was in high school then.

And I remember I had a picture of it on my wall.

You know, I also had a Qantas on my wall.

It was a Qantas and then there was a Viper.

So I just had like an affinity to it.

And when you brought it to the studio, I was just smitten immediately.

It's kind of a unique vehicle you don't see every day, right?

There's not a lot of them out there.

It's a V10 engine, eight liters of displacement.

And it also is known as a widow maker.

So it has this mystique about it, right?

Because back then what they wanted to do is create a Ford Cobra competitor.

So that was a successor to the original Ford Cobra, right?

So that was the I-Coke.

No, it wasn't the I-Coke. It was what's his name?

There was Carol Shelby and Bob Lutz.

Bob Lutz, yes.

So they wanted to create something that was the modern version of and look at that.

There was a TV show about Viper called The Viper.

It was amazing.

It would morph from one Viper to another.

Yeah, so the first generation, which is what we have is the least expensive of them all.

It's also the least refined.

So we have no windows.

Exactly.

Well, no built-in windows.

We have windows, but they go into little slots.

Yeah, we have no top.

Of course, we have a little like we have actually a soft top and a hard top.

But you have it separate.

You have to put it on to put it on.

So it's the most uncomfortable.

It's the most raw of them all.

Obviously, side pipes and side pipes to burn your leg.

If you touch it, they can burn your leg if you touch it.

And of course, the piece to resistance, which Tommy's about to get into if you're

watching this on YouTube is what's under the hood, which is this fabulous

Lamborghini engineer.

People think this is a truck engine.

It's not at that time Chrysler owned both Dodge and Lamborghini.

And they didn't have a lot of experience in building all aluminum engines.

So they went to Lamborghini and said, Hey, can we get you guys to build

us this very advanced, you know, dual overhead cam engine and Lamborghini said no

problem and then Dodge ran out of money.

And so they built a basic 10 cylinder, but it's aluminum.

It's aluminum.

And then eventually a steel version of that went into a truck and people keep

putting the horse before the cart.

And they think it was a truck engine that became a car engine.

It was a car engine that became a truck engine.

And the beauty of that engine is since they didn't really, you know,

engineer a lot of tech into it is that they're pretty bulletproof.

Exactly.

And the reason why it's known as a widow maker, as I mentioned, is because there

is no computer controls or anything.

There's no airbags, there's no traction control, there's no stability control.

No automatic transmission.

There is no air conditioning.

It does. We fixed it.

Yes. Air conditioning now works.

Yes. But it has none of the other computer aids.

So I did three things to it because I love this vehicle so much because it

deserves it. I think this is a classic American car that is, you know, this,

this is as American as I think it might get more valuable.

Actually, do you think we'll talk about that in a sec, but let me do the three

things and I'll tell you what, what I think about it.

So, um, it had the wrong wheels.

It had these horrible chrome wheels from the second generation.

So I found the original set of wheels from a guy who had eight vipers out of

the box, more part out of the box.

Brand new original wheels for the first gen.

That was amazing.

So these are the old wheels.

Yes. Those are the ones from the second generation.

We need another video call because we need to see the three spokes,

the three spokes throwing star wheels.

And so I was also bummed out because when I bought it,

the car had one of those like pioneer modern radios, you know,

with the display that's horrible.

And then as I was buying it from a retired police officer in Denver,

he said, I've got a box of stuff that came with it and I look in the box

and the original radio was there.

Yeah. And you put it back in.

So I put the original radio back in just because you need to.

Here we are putting on the, the correct wheels.

Um, and that was an $800 process to put a shitty radio in there.

It's not funny how, how that works.

Um, and then, then, of course, we talked to our friends at Michelin,

uh, and they were able to get us, uh, brand new old tires, right?

The tires that would have been on this car.

So thank you for, because it's a very unique size.

It's a two 35 17.

No, it's a three 35 and a 17.

It's really why it's a steamroller tire.

Yeah.

So, so thank you, Michelin for actually doing that.

Those are the, by the way, we're selling those wheels.

So if you want those chrome wheels for your second generation, we're asking

$2,500.

Well, now you call them crappy, so nobody will buy one.

They're crappy because they don't belong in this car.

I mean, if I, if I had the second gen and those, you would, you would put them on.

Those were the OEM wheels.

I'd want them because OEM is always going to be what you want, right?

You want, especially in classic cars.

Um, and then the owner actually also had those, uh, center hub caps.

So he threw in those, uh, and then had them shipped all the way from Arizona.

So we put those on.

Uh, and then once we got the radio working, uh, the speakers were busted.

So we replaced the speakers.

And then finally the air conditioning stopped working.

Not that it really matters in this car, but we had that fixed.

So we bought the car for $40,000 or probably about 45 into it.

Maybe maybe you spent some money on it, maybe a little bit more.

Uh, and I was just watching one of those videos that Doug does, uh, and he was

talking about the fact that, uh, he doesn't think that Vipers will appreciate.

I think this car, since we bought it, has actually gone up in price.

I actually think that Vipers are appreciating and I disagree with Doug.

I think I could sell this car.

Maybe I bought it well, but I think I could sell this car with the hard top,

which is a $5,000 option.

If you were to buy it separately, if you could find one, I think we could sell

this car today for 50,000.

Yes.

And I'll be first in line.

Okay.

My cousin, Tommy's cousin also wants it.

So there's people already lining up for it.

I, uh, well, there, there'll be a competition.

So why do you like it so much?

What is it about the car?

It's also manual.

Okay.

So let me explain just really briefly, cause we have more vehicles to talk about.

We've done some drag races, right?

And I was fortunate enough because you invited me to some of these drag races.

And by the way, if this is a two-parter, it's okay.

So if we have to go next week and finish, we, yes, we can do that.

Keep going.

But I really want to know why you like it so much.

So first of all, let's put aside that it was on my wall when I was a kid.

Okay.

Let's put that aside.

That's a side.

Sometimes when you meet your heroes, you get disappointed, but this car did not do that.

It lived up to everything that I was kind of expecting.

I was expecting kind of a raw, difficult car to drive.

And it can be difficult, right?

It has its own, uh, it has a very light flywheel, right?

So sometimes it can be jerky in the first gear or second gear.

It doesn't like stop lights.

It doesn't, it wants to drive.

It wants to go.

Yeah.

And it's also speed is very deceiving.

You could be going 60 miles an hour and you're like, why am I moving?

So slowly and then you look down at the speedometer and it's in fact 60 miles an hour.

And then drag racing it when you get that shift, right?

And you know, and you go fast.

It's just the sound that makes the, the open top.

I just feel alive in that car.

Yeah.

I think you put your finger on it.

You feel like you're actually driving a car.

And today's we're just doing a video over for TFL.

Now, are we talking about how cars have become, um, software defined?

This is the exact opposite.

This is the hardware defined car.

There is no software that defines this car whatsoever.

It is raw.

It is real.

It is fun.

And it actually lasted really well.

Yeah.

It's actually, there's like, there's nothing you can really point to on these

cars that are consistently failed.

And we buy a lot of classic cars and obviously people have figured out what,

you know, fails on these things.

There's nothing that really fails on Vipers, at least nothing substantial.

Yeah.

And we've beat it hard.

I mean, we've dragged it several times and it's just working.

I'm not sure the air conditioning does much because the car is so hot to begin with.

It's just there.

Yeah, it's a good thing you did it, but I don't think I've used it.

And the rub on the car's interior is horrible.

It is. Oh, my God.

But the exterior is gorgeous.

I mean, that coke bottle shape, you know, the kind of the big air inlets,

the, you know, the, how low it is.

Yeah, the squinty snake like eyes.

Yes, it just doesn't get much better than that.

Yeah, it's a really special car.

Now it's natural competitor.

Let's call it the mongoose to the snake.

Yes.

At that time, that would have been the Corvette C four, four generation.

Yeah.

ZR one.

Yes.

Now this was a moonshot by Chevy.

In fact, there has been no Chevy Corvette with an overhead cam engine until the

zero six came out a few years ago.

So since the nineties, right?

This, I think ours is a 91.

I want to say it's 91.

Yeah.

The there has been no advanced version of that car, at least not engineering wise

since our car came out.

So you want to tell them what the zero one C four is and what makes it special

because it doesn't look any different from a run of the mill C four.

Yeah.

So I knew you guys were searching for one and you guys found it online.

And then I really appreciate in general terms, the C four style.

Yeah.

But like you said, a zero one is this is this high end version of that generation

of the car, but it has my new differences.

Maybe the wheel design.

So this is an ours, by the way, this is ours.

Is it?

What are you talking about?

I thought this was this is ours.

We know.

Isn't this the one that belongs to Jordan?

Yeah, that's Jordan's.

OK, well, we were looking at Viper versus Corvette.

Why are you interrupting me again?

Because we went to the wrong car.

We went to look at this car.

That's our car.

Can you freeze that frame in the rear of the car at the top of the car?

Do you see that middle on top of the glass of the rear?

There's a little brake light.

That's almost the only visual cue other than a small badge on the trunk

that defines it as a zero one.

But it's really about the engine.

There is one more.

It's next to the license plate.

What is it?

The two black stripes next to the license.

Because the car is three inches wider than a traditional Chevy.

Yeah, Chevy.

It's been a traditional C4.

So it's wider, but it doesn't look any wider unless you know what you're looking at.

You don't know exactly.

And so they didn't make it.

That was the biggest problem with it.

They didn't make it special.

But what is special, of course, is the engine.

It's both under the hood.

Maybe you can get a shot of it under the hood.

So this is a super advanced engine that was actually engineered by Lotus.

People think it's Mercury Marine, but it's not.

So we have a Viper with a Lamborghini engine and we have a Corvette

with a Lotus engine with a Lotus engineered engine.

And because Chevy was looking around for some place or someone to build it

that had experience with aluminum, which they didn't have again,

they went to Mercury Marine.

So this engine is unique because it has a key that you put into it

so you can get either like a low horsepower mode, which I think is 280.

Or if you turn the key, kind of like the red key in the latest demon,

you get and get all the power, which is 375.

So it's four cam 32 valves.

It's it's a super advanced engine.

And basically it's V tech before V tech.

Yeah. And yeah, we did the drag race with it.

I was there actually, Tommy, in case were the drivers, I was helping out.

You know, when I said the Viper didn't disappoint me.

I'm sorry to say the Corvette, the C4 kind of disappointed me a little bit.

Disappointed me when I got into it and I couldn't fit in the seat.

I'll tell you that that certainly is because we bought this on bring a trailer

and it was in Phoenix again, right?

Yeah, it's always, you know, it's always a but a pistol over itself.

Yeah, it's always a gamble buying something on bring a trailer

because you never get to see it unless you people say you should go look at it.

But I wasn't going to fly to Phoenix just to look at it.

Just to look at it. Yeah.

And it was, you know, it was twenty seven thousand.

And Tommy and I had a road trip, which I love doing.

So we were going to drive it.

And this is Moab.

And what happened was we're pulling I have some I'm on that, you know,

Osempic, but it's not Osempia.

It's the generic GLP one version.

And so I thought I was sick to my stomach because of what I ate.

But I think it was what the side effects of, you know, these GLP one medicines are.

And so I was fertilizing Northern Arizona and Southern Utah.

And so I had to get to Walker drugs to buy some diarrhea medicine.

And as we're pulling in, all of a sudden, the alternator light comes on

and I'm like, Tommy, open the hood and then I look and there's basically

oil everywhere, oil, oil line that had come off the oil cooler.

And it's squirting oil everywhere, seven quarts of it, like a cut artery.

And yeah, that's when things got ugly, because not only was it

emptying itself out of oil, but then it started raining.

And how are we going to fix that?

Because that's a very high pressure line that goes to the oil cooler

and you can't just like put it back in and say, OK, now we're going to drive

the another 350 miles back to Colorado.

So that video is out there.

If you want to see it, I don't want to retell the whole story.

I've told it before, but that was very disappointing.

And of course, the first disappointing thing was it's got these super

sporty seats with these high side bolsters.

Yeah. And my fat American ass does not.

Well, you can see my fat American ass there does not fit into those seats.

Are you but cushions?

So we bought that's cute.

But cushions so that I can actually sit in the car, which is a solution.

It causes another problem.

Can you guess what their problem is?

You're too tall now.

Yeah, and then because I'm six, two, I'm already tall with the long torso.

And then my head hits the roof. Yeah.

So then I'm sitting there, you know, bumping up against the roof.

So the whole experience wasn't grand.

And we are in the process.

We have a friend, George, who's in the springs, and he thinks that there's

something wrong. Also, a first single is gone in the car.

So first year single is bad.

So it's just it's like I say, it's just and it doesn't have a lot of miles.

I want to say this car is like 20 something thousand thousand miles.

It's not a lot for a ninety one.

So here's my theory.

Those are key, by the way, we're just showing.

Yeah, here's my theory, you know, bringing trailer.

This car externally looks amazing, right?

And the interior looks really nice and the miles are low.

But I think what happened, the previous owner probably didn't drive it that much.

So the car was sitting and maybe some of the lines like you were talking about,

maybe dry rod it or maybe, you know, got old.

And when you actually put some strain on the car and drove it cross country,

this happened, right?

It blew a line.

So we're already like two thousand dollars into this car already.

So to fix that oil, we had to get a kit that was three hundred sixty dollars

just for that little oil line.

You can't see it's like six inches long, maybe eight inches long.

And then to install it was like seven hundred bucks.

And then we took it in to have the transmission looked at and they try to fix it

for another twelve hundred. So we're already two thousand into it.

And the car still doesn't have a first gear synchro.

Luckily, the oil line is fixed.

But it's such a special car and, you know, it's such a unique bit of Corvette

history that I feel like it's worth spending money on.

So this week, actually, Tommy's going to take it to our friend, Jordan,

who actually is an expert on these cars.

And we're going to he thinks that there's something wrong with the engine

that's not putting out.

It's not because of we ran out of oil.

We didn't run the engine minus oil.

The second it's OK. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, we stopped it. It was fine.

But we're going to he might actually start to tear down a little bit.

And we're going to see if it's not fulfilling its full potential.

So because in their drag race, the Corvette just killed it.

And it shouldn't have killed it. It shouldn't have.

Yes, but there's something else.

I'm sorry, the Viper just killed it.

It shouldn't have killed it. The Viper did kill it.

And I was driving. I know.

No, no, I wasn't driving then.

Anyways, it doesn't matter.

But you know what else disappointed me?

This car is too quiet.

When I was expecting a Corvette of the highest performance, especially like a C4,

I expected the the the exhaust to be like a boat.

You know, you know, just a really deep, really quiet,

you know, pleasing and loud. And this car is quiet.

Do you agree? Yeah, I agree. It's pretty quiet.

It's too quiet. Yeah.

So we have some work to do.

So look, a case was right about this.

The real money in these cars is the engine of the body.

And the body has never been the car accident.

It's almost pristine.

The interior is almost pristine.

So if we can get the engine sorted out and Jordan says he's got another transmission

because it's basically a C4 transmission, but it's a little different.

It's not quite the same.

So, you know, maybe for another $5,000,

we can get this thing dialed in and have a really good working ZR1 C4.

And then you just straight pipe it.

Yes, we just straight pipe it.

We also have to pass emissions.

Yes, keep that in mind.

All right. So that's that's that is that is yet to be determined.

The next one is another Corvette that I bought this year.

We bought three Corvettes this year, actually.

This is you're in the Corvette kick.

I got I got in a Corvette mood for some reason.

And we bought a 1968 Corvette C3 convertible.

A couple of reasons for that.

First, where did you find this one?

I don't have to get local.

It was a Colorado car that somebody put in a barn back in 91.

And then it stayed there until recently.

And it was just kind of platinum orange.

And then somebody resprayed it.

And I mean like rattle candid yellow.

So it's a good 20 foot car.

And when you're doing videos, 20 feet is good enough.

But it's the first year of the C3.

It's a complete B can.

It has one and only one option, which is the convertible.

So no power steering, no air conditioning.

It's got a three speed manual, Andre.

Most of them had four speed.

Yeah, three speed.

But Corvettes are weird.

So C3s, when you get into the malaise era of Corvette,

which is basically 73 and up, maybe 74,

then they become worthless because they're choked with emissions.

The early Corvettes, the 68 being probably one of the worst of the early ones.

Anyway, they're defined by you can look at them by seeing the chrome bumpers.

So I think in 73, they lost a front chrome bumper,

but they still have the back chrome bumper.

But this one has front and rear chrome bumper.

So any of these chrome bumper cars are actually very valuable

because I have to say this and I'm going to go out on a limb.

It's a hot take.

I think the C3 is the best looking Corvette of them all.

Oof, I wouldn't agree with you completely,

but I do appreciate this one.

Well, it's got the classic.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, I would say it was also the astronaut car, right?

The astronauts were really missing the covers for our lights.

There should be, but you know what else was an astronaut car

back in the day in the Apollo days as well as C2.

Yeah, you know, and the C2 in my mind,

maybe a little bit hotter than this this generation.

Anyways, I really appreciate this car.

C2 like was around before I was born.

Yes. So it was before me as well.

Yeah, so I don't really appreciate it as much.

This was when I was growing up.

These were like when I was a kid, these were the cars that, you know, were were cool.

Now, the 68 does have some cool features.

So it's got like these wipers that come up.

There's like a little flap and the flap opens up and the wipers come out.

It's got a different door handles.

They kind of fix them up.

Yeah, probably the most distinct thing.

The thing about a 68 Corvette is that car and driver lent it.

Sorry, Chevrolet lent it to car and driver

and car and driver had it for one day and they said, give back to us when it's finished.

Really? It was so bad.

So the 68 does have a reputation of not being quite cooked.

But, you know, my biggest issue is it has no options, including the tilt.

And so it's got a very small foot well.

And I have a hard time driving it because the steering wheel goes right.

Have you driven it? Yeah, it goes right.

It's hard. It's hard to get in there.

Yeah, it's hard like the steering wheel.

And this one has even the smaller steering wheel than what came with it.

Yeah, because it has no power steering, of course.

And the steering wheel comes right into my lab.

And I can't even if I'm wearing like my traditional hokas, I can't get my feet

into the while I can't operate the clutch.

It's just too tight.

So I'm kind of I'm kind of ready to sell it to move it on.

So if we pay twenty two thousand for it, which I think is not bad.

I think it's probably what those cars are going for.

Like I said, the priests, people are like, eh, they're worthless.

No, the pre seventy threes are actually very valuable,

especially if it's got the four twenty seven hours, doesn't know it does not

to the three fifty. Yeah, which is fine.

It's plenty fast.

The guy we bought it from basically went through it mechanically.

And so mechanically, it's about as sound as it can get.

So it and it starts pretty well.

I mean, sometimes it stops, shifts, all of that.

So it's not, you know, it's not a restoration.

It's just a mechanical cosmetically.

It probably needs another restoration.

Yeah. But for what we needed for, which is videos, it works.

So because of the reason that I can't drive it and because I think it's kind of,

you know, something that is a unique vehicle that needs a unique home,

I'm ready to sell it.

So if you guys are interested in it, twenty two thousand, it's yours.

And you can have a cool, I think I am not going to fight you.

You know what the Corvettes do?

You know, you know, you know, American car guys do what they like.

This is one of, I will tell you this, this is one of like two hundred

three speed, nineteen sixty eight Corvettes, not one of one.

But only one Sunday, only on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

It's available for you.

Only about two hundred three speed up.

The rest were either four speed or automatic.

So if you want the rare bean can.

Yeah, if you don't like shifting that much, only three speeds.

Oh, yeah, it's easy.

Only three speeds.

It's actually I did drive it and it's actually pleasant to drive.

It's fine to drive.

Yeah, it's not.

It burbles nicely, accelerates, it turns.

It has a good sound to it.

Yeah, has that smell, the old car smell.

Yeah, the pre-catalytic converter.

Yeah, it has a good smell.

And it only like, it only eats like a quart of oil every third or fourth.

It's OK, but that's what all cars do.

All right, so we're down to number five.

And that is the car I just sold.

I sold it over the weekend.

Oh, it's gone.

Yeah, so at our little car auction that we go to the donated car auction,

I bought a Cadillac Eldorado 91, I believe, ETC, which stands for Eldorado Touring Coupe.

It's a 2001.

It's a two. Oh, sorry, 2001.

Yes, I'm getting confused with all these cars.

But it seems like you're in the General Motors craze here.

I do seem to be buying General Motors cars, don't I?

But we did talk about Viper and Bronco.

So this Cadillac was unique because I think I don't know the history of it.

But if you look at it, you'll note that it has very tinted.

It's very tinted.

It has some ugly wheels.

Yes. Well, look at those.

Those are not proper.

No, not proper. No.

It had an issue where not this side, but the other side door had been dented

and the rear view mirror actually fell off.

Yeah. But the interior was nice.

Beautiful 80s, some thousand miles.

Yeah, I feel like this car was.

Owned by an older woman or man that then gave it to their grandson or granddaughter

who then went and tried to make it into a sports car, like tinted the hell out of

the wheels, bought these momos.

Is it MoMA or MoMA?

I was in MoMA or something.

Yeah, wheels to try to make it cool, which you can't.

No, you can't.

And then crashed it.

And then the grandfather or grandmother and they sold it.

Yes.

Yeah, we're donating this to our church.

So you get yourself, you know, an old tuber or civic or civic or something.

Yeah. So the first thing I did to it when we bought it, there was a rear view cap

was I went and replaced the wheels and tires.

So I actually went and found the original wheels that would have been on the car.

Yeah, not the car.

And you found nice ones.

Nice ones. Yeah.

Bought new tires for it.

I think that's where the Toby video is the car with the right wheels.

Yeah. So let's show that video.

So we spent like 500 bucks on new wheels and tires for it.

And I think it really freshened up the car.

Yeah. And it looks like a Cadillac should.

Yeah. And then then we spent like 15 bucks on epoxy and I glued the

rear view mirror back on and it actually worked fine.

You can see those are the right wheels for it.

And then we took it to Toby and he actually went through the whole thing to find out.

He actually didn't have good things to say about the engine.

All right. Well, it is a North Star after all.

So North Stars, especially that era, are known for blowing head gaskets

because what happened was if you're into classic El Dorados or GM cars,

they didn't drill the holes deep enough where you attach the top of the engine

to the bottom of the engine.

And so over time, the head gasket would start to leak and then it would blow.

And that was the problem.

And Cadillac knew about this problem.

GM knew about it and they didn't fix it for like seven years.

So he doesn't like North Stars.

People think they failed, but it's like a Porsche with an IMS bearing.

If it hasn't failed after 80,000 miles, it's probably not going to fail.

I'm guessing.

And I didn't make it leaking something, wasn't it?

When he got to Toby's, it was leaking.

You know what?

It was leaking and he found out that the coolant was a coolant or was it?

I think it was the the little container where the coolant goes back into it.

Oh, the expansion tank.

I think it was either the expansion tank or the the wiper fluid was leaking.

And so what he did was he replaced it.

OK, and then one of the engine mounts, the one that you see right here.

Oh, they were shot.

That was completely shot.

So I bought a new one and I replaced that.

So let's see.

We bought it for like what, 1500, 1600?

Yeah, and these cars are actually valuable.

Like if you go to Craigslist or Facebook, people sell these up to like 10 K.

Wait a minute.

There's a drum roll coming.

Yes, because we actually made money on this one.

We made money.

Always lose money on cars.

Yes, because it's about video, right?

It's not about wheeling and dealing generally.

So let's say we put 1900 into it, bought it for sorry, 1600.

We've paid to be like 400, put another 500 in wheels for 2500.

Yes.

And drum roll.

And I sold it in a really sketchy way this weekend to a foreign gentleman for

thirty seven hundred.

Bam, $1200 profit.

That's right.

First time we ever made on a car.

It was dark.

I went to the post office.

I was looking for him.

This guy comes out of the shadow.

Luckily, Zach was there with me.

Yeah.

And, you know, he took it for a test drive and everything works in the car,

which is cool.

Everything.

Windows, everything.

Everything works.

Even with the dent, he wanted I think 4000 for it.

He talked me down to 3700 and away the car went.

So our ETC is gone.

The other thing about this car is it's had the best ride of any car that we've

bought this year.

Yeah, even Mary.

So I think it was cool that you can see it leaking there.

Mary had it.

Mary drove it for a week.

She commented on a smooth, just couch type ride that this car offered.

It had one of the early forms of MagnaRide.

Yeah, the adjustable suspension.

Yeah, so at that time Cadillac said that the car would like sense the road ahead

of it and it would change.

And it actually did.

Yeah, change the suspension five billion times a second or something, you know,

to give you the smoothest ride.

My biggest issue was, and the usual of it, I didn't fit.

My head would hit the ceiling.

Well, you and I are freakishly tall anyways.

Well, no, you drive like a gangster.

I lean back.

Yes.

And you have to lean back in this car.

You do absolutely have to lean back, right Cole?

You're like in a lazy boy recline when you drive.

So I'm surprised you didn't hit your head.

Yes, I'm good.

So yeah, so we sold it.

I think it was probably worth more because I put the ad up on Craigslist and

within, I'm not joking, within four minutes of putting the ad up.

This guy had contacted me and wanted to buy it and he came and sold it.

Yeah.

So there it goes.

Bye bye, Caddy.

By the way, as we're moving on to other cars, Roman and I, we now have

rid this kind of problem where we're always on the donated car auction.

Yes, always checking it because there's some good deals and you found another one.

Yeah.

So I was on it again and I found another Cadillac.

So that's why I wasn't that sad selling this one because you have another one.

We have another one in the same color and this time it's even better because

it's the only Italian slash American Cadillac ever.

And I'm of course talking about the Cadillac Alante, Alante, which was this

crazy car that GM built to compete with like the Mercedes SL and they were built.

At least the body design, but been in three and then this was the crazy part.

GM actually took a 747 converted it to a transporter so that they could put

the bodies on the airplane and they flew them to US and they flew them to the US.

Whoa.

Yeah, exactly.

Yes.

Now this is pre-Norstar, so it's got the 4.6 liter V8.

So we don't have that Norstar issue with this car.

OK.

And the top works.

It's kind of a weird semi manual top, but it works.

It's in really good shape.

And the car, once again, I think it was owned by one person because it's a really good car.

There are some small issues with it, nothing that would keep you from

actually driving it as a daily driver.

But it had proper wheels.

Everything was proper on it.

Yeah, everything was proper.

This one doesn't have any dents or any problems with it in general.

It's just a really cool car that if you at some point are looking for an Alante

because they've become pretty cheap.

I mean, I think I've bought this thing for like $2,000, the same thing.

It wasn't very expensive, maybe $2,100.

They go for between $4,000 and $6,000 in really good condition.

But this car is actually really good.

Like I said.

An interior.

It needed some cleaning, OK?

Yeah, I cleaned it.

So these donated cars are usually.

They sit for a long time.

They sit or somebody that doesn't need the car can no longer use it.

So they sit.

So it requires some cleaning.

And it also needed the battery, right?

Yeah, so I put the battery in it.

The other Cadillac had the ABS and traction control light on.

And we never fixed it.

It could.

I mean, the brakes worked and the car ran and drove.

So I'm assuming that like ABS didn't work.

I'm assuming if you're in snow, it would just spin its wheels.

But didn't stop it from driving.

This only has a brake light on.

And I think it could just be because the emergency brake isn't quite set right.

So no lights.

There's the old 4.6 V8.

So not the not the north star, not the north star.

And in general, it's a really good car.

And if you want to buy it, I'll sell it to you.

I'm ready to get rid of it, too.

Really? Why?

Some are because I just I bought another car, another convertible.

And I've kind of gotten my convertible fix.

OK, so I bought this because it was cool and it was a convertible.

Once again, it has that really cool dash.

Look at that digital, almost digital dash.

You know, it's not quite.

This was this was like peak buttons.

Yes, lots of buttons, lots of buttons.

But it's really about the videos, isn't it?

It is. I mean, it's not really to hold on to these cars forever.

It's we're not a collector.

We do videos.

We want to have some fun.

Yeah. And I kind of I kind of got my fix of convertibles.

And I found the perfect convertible for me in the same.

It just it drives well up up there by the river mirror.

There's like a little, you know, where you have those little lights

that shine down somehow, that's all messed up.

But that's really the only thing that's wrong with it.

And I like it has bad.

I usually hate dealerships tags on the back of vehicles.

Yes. But when you find a car that's 30 or 35 years old,

yeah, it has a Denver dealership tag on it.

Yeah, which is cool. Yeah.

Look, look at those instruments.

How how how retro is that?

Very retro.

So so if anybody wants it, I don't know.

Make us an offer info at TFL truck or ask.

Is it ask a TFL car?

No, it's the other way.

Ask a TFL truck into a TFL car.

Thank you, Andre.

What do you think of it?

That's the thing that's broken.

I at first I was I was a suspect of this.

When you first told me you bought an Alante, I was like, oh, no.

But then I saw it in person and it actually grew on me.

Kind of grows on you.

I mean, it's kind of boxy, but it has some charm to it.

And it's a good verbal.

It does. So the next car we bought was the Toyota Sports 800.

I don't want to talk about that because we did a whole podcast

last week about it.

Yes, we dedicated an entire hour to this.

And it deserves it because it's for sports car.

So, you know, go back one episode and listen to that episode.

You'll find out all about the sports 800.

But the next one is very interesting.

And this is something we're going to get back into modern times.

And that is, of course, we bought one of the early Toyota four runners,

one of the newest six gen four runners.

Exactly.

The the TRD off-road was expensive.

I would say it was fifty seven thousand,

if I'm right, which is a lot for a foreigner.

Yes, because we didn't want specifically the most expensive one

or the hybrid one, right?

We wanted, you know, a turbocharged, you know,

kind of the basic powertrain that it offers.

Fifty seven, does that sound right? Or am I forty eight?

I forget. No, no, no.

I remember specifically this was about ten thousand dollars

more than the Tacoma the previous year. OK, so it was.

Right. So it was fifty seven.

So which is quite a lot of money, actually, for one of these cars.

And we immediately took it off road.

Oh, you have to.

Well, you bought it in Los Angeles area.

Yeah, because the cars come from Japan.

And so they hit the port, obviously, on the west coast first.

Yes. And then they kind of disperse through the rest of the country.

And so we wanted to be one of the first.

We bought it in LA and then took it back on I 70

and stopped in Moab and took it off road again and climbing the wall

on things and things, which is a difficult obstacle, my friend.

Yes. And, you know, we compared to the Bronco,

which it, of course, competes against.

And I gotta say, there it is going up the wall.

Let's see if Tommy can make it because I can't remember what happens.

You were there, right? I was there. I was filming that. Yeah.

Tommy's hair is crazy in this one.

Yes, he was.

It's a sore spot with me and him.

What his hair?

Well, it's OK. He looks like Einstein, you know, like just just kind of wild.

I just feel like he'll look back at these videos ten years from now

and he'll look at his hair and he'll be thinking to himself,

what the hell was I thinking?

I could be wrong, but that's what he likes.

So I'm not going to argue about it.

But we're not Hollywood models.

We're not. No, we're not Hollywood models.

Let's get back to the foreigner.

So first, first of all, it's a sixth generation.

Yes. And the big news out of this generation is

they got rid of the sixth cylinder and everybody's freaked out about it.

They went to the same engine that's in the Tacoma that we bought the year before.

So we're talking about a four cylinder turbo.

Yeah, 2.4 liter.

And that's not really an issue for me.

Hey, Tommy made it.

Next third try.

He probably makes it up the wall. He makes it.

You have to choose the right line.

It's beautiful.

We kind of damaged those steps a little bit.

Don't tell anybody underneath.

Yeah, well, it's already sold.

So whoever has it, if you if you find those little supports for the steps

are bent a little bit, you know, it came from the wall if you own this car,

which is which is a sign of like it's a scar.

It's a battle scar.

It is. It's like going to, you know, World War One

and coming back with like where the bullet grazed you.

Yes, exactly.

No, so so I have a the power train doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that the previous forerunner,

you know, the venerable fifth generation one was there for a long time.

It was actually roomy, but for some somehow this new one,

remember, we compared them and the new one was a little bit tighter inside

and I didn't quite like it.

I think my issue with the new one has to do with one number

and that's the Land Cruiser 250.

So we also drove that and the two actually.

I mean, the forerunner can be had for less,

but they do overlap price wise when you get to the upper model.

So you can get like the base Land Cruiser for what

like a TRD pro off-road forerunner will cost you.

And then if you get into like the trail hunter,

then you're getting into the upper Land Cruisers.

And I just got to say that I'm a little

I'm a little disappointed in the ride of the current forerunner.

I think it's very sporty and maybe a little too sporty.

This new one. This new one. Yeah.

And I think if I were to spend $57,000 again,

I'd probably go for the Land Cruiser because the Land Cruiser has a better ride.

Plus, I think it comes standard with that disconnectable sway bar.

If I'm not mistaken, does it come standard with that? I could be wrong.

I don't I don't think so because Land Cruiser,

you can add a lot of options to it. Maybe it's not standard.

But by the way, the Land Cruisers are all hybrids, aren't they?

No. Are they? Yeah, they're all hybrids. You're right.

The forerunner is not the forerunner you could choose hybrid or no hybrid.

But I just think that the Land Cruiser has better seating.

The seats are more comfortable.

The ride is more comfortable and the view is better out of it

because this has that kind of more sporty slope back, you know, slope front.

This is more youthful.

It's more sporty.

But in my old age now, I kind of like comfort more.

And so I would go for I think that they're speaking of Land Cruiser.

There it is. It's right there.

It's right there. I think we compare the two actually.

I would go for and I think off road because the suspension is a little bit

more compliant, the Land Cruiser is actually a little bit better.

There it goes going up the wall.

So let's see how the Land Cruiser does.

But Roman, if you gave me $56,000 and you told me Bronco Everglades

or forerunner tiered the off road, I would go Bronco.

One attempt.

One attempt. One attempt.

Is it? Oh, it's because you were you're a better driver, right?

I'm not a better driver.

I just think I'm more willing to put the car in harm's way, maybe

then then and you would go for the Bronco.

I would go for the Bronco given the same money.

Yeah, I think so.

And I think there is a lot to be said for that because we own the Bronco.

Ted, by the way, commented on our Patreon live stream.

He says, my father always gave me hell about my hair.

So I think you're not the only one.

Yeah, well, I guess I'm not the only one.

Sorry. Sorry.

I apologize for your dad.

I apologize to you, Tommy.

One day when you're my age and you have a son who does it, maybe you'll understand.

Anything else you want to say about the forerunner?

Uh, no, I think we've done it.

Yeah, I mean, compare it.

Look, off road, the problem with the forerunner compared to the Bronco is

it just doesn't compare off road, at least not unless you actually do

something like lift it, right?

The Bronco from the factory not only has 35s, which make a huge difference.

It wouldn't struggle on the wall.

It also has a front locker, which the forerunner doesn't have.

So as an off-roader, the Bronco is just much better.

It also has a removable top, right?

Yeah, but as an everyday driver, I think if, if, if most of my driving

more on road, the forerunner is a better vehicle.

If most of my driving more off road, the Bronco is much better.

Sure.

But I think the Bronco is a, it's a little bit compromised.

Maybe the Bronco is a little bit louder inside because the top is removable.

But nonetheless, I would choose Bronco out of those two all day long, all the time.

This is maybe changing.

We can, this is a whole another podcast.

We can talk about reliability with Toyota.

We're not sure it's the same as it used to be, but certainly the perception

is there that the forerunner is a much more reliable, long-lasting vehicle.

And so here in Colorado, wranglers and forerunners retain their value like crazy.

I'm not sure the Bronco is at that point, at least not yet, or maybe it won't get there.

I don't know, you know, we don't do those studies.

But the forerunner certainly has held its value because that car, we held it

for on toward like three months and we sold it for exactly what we bought it for.

Yeah, it's still hot.

Forerunners, especially in like Boulder, Colorado, it's still here in red hot.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's move on to the car where we lost a boat ton of money.

I think we lost $12,000 in three months.

Oh, geez.

The exact opposite.

And of course, I'm talking about the ID buzz.

Yes.

Which, ah, what a car.

What a cool ass car.

This is, this is looks amazing.

A classic story of too little, too late.

And when I say little, I mean battery.

And when I say late, I mean timing timing.

It if this had come out four or five years ago when it came out in Europe.

Yeah.

Right after they unveiled it and introduced it, then this thing would have

been a runaway success instead.

They took them forever.

They got rid of the short wheelbase for some mysterious reason, only brought

the long wheelbase here, which I appreciate actually.

Yeah.

But a lot of people would would rather have the short wheelbase.

So why not give people a choice and they made it crazy expensive.

We're looking at $72,000 for the first edition.

Yeah, that's the price we paid, right?

And we sold it for 60.

Yeah.

Three months later.

So the styling is a homerun.

Yes.

When you look at the ID buzz and I still do this day when one drives by my coat to

you were in.

Yeah, really top notch.

That was just your presentation was top notch.

That was just by accident.

I think Cole is with the camera, isn't it?

Yeah, Cole's behind it.

It was our producer.

Cole is shaking because it says it's freezing.

Look, we bought it from our friends at Reading.

Yes, Volkswagen of Reading.

Great people in Pennsylvania, great great dealership.

I miss you guys.

They're one of our Patreon supporters.

I need to go by when Audi makes a car.

Maybe maybe it will go by an Audi from you or maybe a Volkswagen when they make

a car that is red hot again, because they're the best.

If you guys want to buy a car here in Pennsylvania, Audi dealership in Reading

or Volkswagen couldn't couldn't couldn't speak more highly of them.

One of the rare dealerships where they love cars and they love customers and

they don't treat you like, you know, like you're a shill.

Yeah, anyway, so we bought it from them.

We drove it all the way across country back to Colorado because we wanted to

road trip it.

And the first thing that we figured out was that the battery is way too small for

the sun.

I mean, this is a big car, Andre.

This is a big car.

Yeah.

And also very comfortable, right?

It is very comfortable.

That's because that's because it's big.

And the third row is comfortable.

And the second row is comfortable.

I really love that part.

But Roman, you and I were talking about it.

I think right before you left to actually purchase it and pick it up is that

what the original VW bus represented for America is freedom, right?

Traveling from coast to coast, going down the PCH highway.

I thought more like free love.

I wasn't around the sixties, but that that would be my dream.

Free love.

That's not where I was going.

No, I was going to free love.

And that means range.

How do we miss that?

Range.

No, free love.

Well, how do we miss that?

Cole, don't you wish you had been around in the sixties?

Imagine like you could be like in a Volkswagen bus, right?

You could be on the ski slope and on the beach or on the beach.

And with you because he loves the board.

He could, you know, you know, all these young ladies would be jumping in.

You know, like, give us a ride and then you would, you know, put the incense

fire up the incense.

I saw one of those like a 70 year old day and I had like a hippie flower.

Yeah, you saw that?

Yeah, hippie flowers on his bus.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's so that's so cool.

And then they'd be like, hey, Cole, we have no place to spend the night.

So you'd be like, hey, I got a bus.

Your ladies are welcome to spend it in here.

And, you know, that's just the way it was.

I'm guessing. I don't know.

Yeah, we're guessing.

We're guessing.

And you, and you could fill it up with gas.

You wouldn't have to go.

Please write to us if we're right.

We're going to get off the air due to this.

What would you put on the radio?

What would be like?

What's the classic sixties?

You'd put Neil Young.

You could be like Neil Young.

You could do the Beach Boys.

Yeah, you could do the Beach Boys.

Yeah, that would be really cool.

You could put on the Beach Boys and you're set.

And, you know, wish they all were.

I'm not going to sing because I can't sing.

So so I had a horrendous experience charging it and road tripping it.

The weather was cold.

The battery was small.

I think we were getting what, like 150 miles of range coal, something like that,

or getting down to the point where it was also snow storming.

It was during this time.

Yeah, it was just it was just it was one of those

nightmare road trips in an EV where we tried to go to like three different

chargers and they either wouldn't work or they were out of service or they were

slow. Oh my gosh, it was a nightmare.

And these are built in Europe, right?

So yes.

So that's partially also another reason why they were expensive and are

expensive is because they also have to be shipped in over here to United States.

There's me trying trying to get the not yet turned on EA station working.

After we picked the hotel that had chargers specifically,

that turned out to be only Tesla chargers.

Wow.

Next.

And we didn't have next.

You kind of guys had a bad day.

We had we had a bad trip.

You had a bad and it's also not the fastest charging vehicle.

89 kilowatts right there.

That is no 97.

This was this is finally when we found a working 106.

106 kilowatts, which is not a super fast speed for charging.

The only good thing about this, this charger was that there was a trader's

rose across the street.

I have a suggestion to VW.

Yes, may I?

Yes, please.

You're a big VW guy.

I used to be.

Yes.

I mean, I used to own, let's see, 2002 VW Golf TDI.

I had a 1992 GLI Jetta.

I had an Audi A6 and Audi 5000 Quattro.

VW Quantum before the Passat, there was the Quantum.

Did you see that screen?

It said 98 percent charged.

Yes, 177 miles of range.

That's not good.

Yeah.

Here's a suggestion VW.

Keep the styling.

Do not, you know, when the battery technology improves, which could be next

year, maybe two years from now, where you can get denser batteries, which are

more affordable, then bring the price down on this van.

But do not change the styling.

I think the styling and the feeling of the bus.

Perfect.

It's perfect.

As youngsters would say, the vibe.

The vibe.

We need to ask Mary, which was your Mary and Jen reviewed it.

Yeah, they love the vibe.

Yeah, they loved it.

So keep it around, make more options, maybe a short wheelbase option like

Roman is saying, maybe a little pickup truck version where you could put

something, you know, in the back of the bed, but keep, but make it a more

affordable and bigger range.

That's it.

All right.

Well, we won't talk about the haptic controls.

We've gone through that ad nauseam.

We won't talk about, you know, the fact that it's, it's, it's having a hard

time selling because it's, I think, just too expensive for what it is.

So let's just jump to the next car, which is, and we should finish this at

this podcast.

Is this the last one for this part?

No, there's four more.

We'll go through it quickly.

The Tesla Model S that we bought this year from 2014.

I'm selling this right now.

If you're actually interested in this car, it is for sale.

So I bought this car because we wanted to prove that unlike phones, auto

batteries actually don't degrade.

So this is the second year of a Tesla Model S, second year.

The Tesla actually sold cars.

Is this 2010?

No, 2014.

This is 2014.

2013 was the first year that they sold.

And back then to incentivize people to buy cars, they did something special.

I'll tell you that in a second because when I bought this car, it was a sad

story.

I bought this car for about 13,800 from a gentleman who was selling it from

for his friend who passed away from cancer.

And he was selling it so that he could give the money to his widow and their

family.

Oh, that's nice.

So I wasn't going to argue about the price because I felt like this was going

to a good cause.

So he didn't know anything about the car.

He just, you know, was trying to get rid of it so that he could help the widow.

And so I drove it.

And there are a couple of things that were wrong with these cars.

And some of our major, first and foremost, the drive unit would fail.

Do you drive unit?

Yeah, the motor would, I think water got into it.

Eventually they would like start to squeal and fail.

And I was worried about that.

And then, of course, the thing drove well.

It was, you know, very well cared for.

There's a small scuff in the front bumper, but in general, everything on the car

works or worked well.

And so I bought it and then I went to supercharge it and I found out

something special about it.

It's got lifetime free included supercharging and premium connectivity.

So you get maps with it as well.

So free premium connectivity, free supercharging for the life, not the owner,

the life of the car.

So you could buy this car and you could never pay another dollar to fill it up

with electrons, which is pretty incredible.

And I remember I went to a Tesla station because I was driving it one day

and I just plugged in.

It always works.

I mean, the experience of just inserting the charger and you don't have to get

your credit card out.

You don't have to do anything.

And then you look on your app and it says amount build zero.

Yeah, it's wonderful.

And we, like I said, we happen to have a Tesla station right across from

Trader Joe's.

And so it's perfect.

You can go plug it in, go get Trader Joe's, do your shopping, come back and

the car's got some electricity in it.

Now, the thing about these older Teslas is that the batteries are really good.

So Jen, who works here?

Yes.

Well, she's off now having her baby, of course, or had her baby.

But what she was able to do is when you take a Tesla into their dealership,

they give you a thumbs up or a thumbs down on the battery.

And because what you get when you took it in thumbs up.

OK, so so we found out that the battery is actually really good.

But you also know that because of the range.

Yeah, the range.

It's got about 90 percent give or take based on the range.

Yeah, but this is what 12 years after the 11 years after the fact.

So yeah, it still has 200 and you charge it up fully 250 miles range.

It's an 85, which means it's got 85 kilowatt hour battery.

Yeah, rear wheel drive, not not all wheel drive.

And it's been generally a good car.

The heater went out and the seats started doing this crazy thing where it would

start moving on its own.

Yeah, it's a ghost seat.

It's a ghost seat.

Yeah, it moves.

But before we sell something, I'm always going to make sure that I'm going to

pass it along in the best possible condition.

So we're in the process selling it.

If you want it, I'm asking 15,900 for it.

And the reason I'm asking 15 or we're asking 15,900 is I just took it to the

dealership and spent $3,000 on it.

Yikes.

Yeah, so making sure.

But also the screen had something wrong with it, right?

No, the screen is fine.

OK, making sure that everything is sorted all in all.

We're into this thing more than just 15 nine.

But you know, I think for a vehicle, if I go to KBB and they sell for around,

let's say 14 to 16.

So I think 15 nine with the bonus of getting free supercharging and premium

can do your life is a fair price.

So if you're interested info a TFL car or ask a TFL truck, I say it right this

time. You nailed it.

Thank you.

And it's a good car.

It's been sorted.

It's got plenty of range.

And it's pretty quick, too.

Yeah, it's very quick.

Yeah, if you want to, you know, if you want a Tesla that you'll never have to

pay another dollar for to keep running, at least not energy wise.

This is the one to do it.

All right, let's keep going.

Where are we at?

We're going to we're going to skip to the next one, which is actually bought.

That's a bonus one.

We'll skip that.

Yeah, that because that wasn't this year.

Probably one of my favorite cars, the Corvette C eights.

We bought a C eight this year.

Yeah, so this is the final kick of this year that we you had with Corvettes.

And this was a local car, right?

We picked it up at Johnson Auto Plaza, right?

Yeah, this belonged to Mr. Johnson.

Yeah, Mr. Johnson himself.

Yeah, it's an LT three.

So it's got all the bells and whistles.

I love the color.

Also one of the first C eights.

Yeah, 20 20.

Yeah.

So I think originally this car would have been like 90 some thousand dollars.

And I want to say we got it for like 70 ish 75 ish because obviously it's a five

year old car now.

And when I purchased it, it had like 6000 miles.

We've put on 2000 miles.

We haven't put a lot of mileage on it.

But I have to say that was a weird edit.

How do we go from from a Corvette to driving on ice?

He's talking about his experiences.

I don't know.

I think so, too.

But I got to tell you, I love this car.

It's just such a beautiful car.

It's fast.

It's fun.

It's everything you want a car to be.

And I think, you know, I watch a lot of other YouTube channels and everybody

doesn't give the Corvette enough credit.

And I think that's because it's kind of an old man car.

And so people just discounted.

But I think it's changing.

GM basically built a supercar.

And if you want to go high, affordably with the ZR one, you can for, you know,

an affordable price.

I mean, it's it's well, not that 60 or 70,000 is affordable anymore.

But but compared to McLaren compared to Ferrari or Lamborghini or anything

like that, that's a deal.

Yeah, that's a screaming deal.

Yeah.

So I love this car and I already sold it.

What?

Yeah.

So we traded it in a zero six.

A C8.

Yeah.

Zero six.

Yeah.

I brought a new one because I think that that is the the sweet spot.

And so current Corvette lineup, you know, I thought about a zero one, a zero one

X, that's just too much power.

The zero six, this is four hundred ninety five horsepower.

The zero six is I think seven hundred.

And then you get up to like 55.

Yeah.

And you get up to a thousand or 1200 for the zero one X and just too much.

But whatever everything I've read, the zero six is the sweet spot.

It's not about too much power.

It's just too much money, right?

Because zero one X, you probably have to pay dealer markups, right?

Or maybe you won't be able to find one and it's now a quarter million dollars.

Yeah.

But that's compared to a Vuelto, which is eight hundred thousand.

Yes.

Which has, you know, less horsepower, less horsepower.

It's it's a bargain.

It is even a two hundred thousand dollars.

Yeah.

But we don't have that much money, but the great news is, look, that's that's the

great news that everybody wants a zero one is now trying to get rid of their

zero sixes.

Ah, so zero sixes are selling at or often below MSRP.

So I got a really good deal, a 10 percent below MSRP with the help of Chevy on this

on this zero.

So here's my rub, but this is something most people can get.

It's not something special because of us.

I don't think I mean, if you go on your looks, a lot of zero sixes are right now.

They're discounted discounted.

Yeah.

So I have a I'm a little bit on the fence on the currency aid that you just sold,

but we still have people.

People think the looks are very polarizing.

Yeah, I'm not going to be sold on the looks.

And partially it's because the front wheel track is a little bit inside the car.

I want the shoulders to be a little bit further out.

The zero six does that.

So so I think when you will roll in your zero six, the new one, I may have to steal the

keys.

Of course, it's the company card.

You we're going to go.

We're going to drive and we've done a lot with this car.

We have.

We have done a lot.

So it's not like it's, you know, my personal car.

We also put this car on Granger warranty.com.

Yes.

So we added warranty to it and we used it.

We used it and it saved us money.

Yeah.

So what happened was, you know, our Rangers, of course, is sponsor of ours

and they provide factory back.

Back to warranties after the factory warranty runs out.

And, but the great thing about Granger is they do it using OEM parts and using

any good service at the dealerships anywhere in the country.

So you guys want to check them out.

So we got one.

We paid like $2,000 for it or maybe 2,500.

And right after I got it, this is just it happened.

All of a sudden I took a little trip.

I think it was over Memorial Day up to SS Park and I got a light saying check engine.

Turns out that this car has like these baffles in the exhaust.

So when you go from when you go from like street mode to track mode,

the baffles open, yeah, and those sounds is different.

It's out and those stopped opening.

Yeah.

And I, you know, I was there.

We took the car to the dealership and we used the extended warranty and we saved.

Gosh, several hundred dollars, actually.

I think no, a thousand dollars.

I think so.

Yeah, I didn't quite pay for the warranty.

It didn't quite pay for the warranty, but it was it was a big benefit when we used it.

Yeah, yeah, and it was, you know, because the repair was not cheap.

And so basically that replaced the valves.

Yeah, yeah, they did.

So with Granger, we're not only advertising for them, which we are, but also customers.

But we're also customers and we're also friends.

You know those guys.

You've been to Iowa to their dealership.

Yeah, great people.

The reason why it's called Granger is because Granger, Iowa is a city and it's

a dealership and they also provide these extended warranties.

You know, over 15 years now, we've built up a really good network of people that

we like to work with.

Yeah, and so, you know, one of the things that we do here is when we have an

advertiser, like we just got modern spare.

Yes, you'll note those videos in a second.

You know, there are people we would like to work with.

We meet them.

We're not just like, Hey, here's some money from here's a company from China

that you must buy, buy, buy.

I don't know.

We try to actually build a relationship with these people.

And so Granger is one of the best ones that we have along with, of course,

Onyx.

I don't want to go through the whole list, but we've got to get way safe hitches.

No, I won't forget.

Another great Utah company, Andre.

All right, let's skip to the second to last, which is the Land Rover Disco five.

Disco five.

This was an interesting one because you're going to surprise me with this.

This is a, you know, I always want to have a Land Rover and Tommy has one, of

course, but I always want to have a Jeep, which we have.

It's a World War two Jeep.

We usually want to have another off-roader.

Yeah.

And we usually want to have a Land Rover Land Rover.

And so we bought this.

This is the hero color.

This was the color of the car, not Tommy's.

This color, this copper color.

Yeah.

When the car came out, I went on the launch and what happened was that we did

some pretty hard off-roading with this vehicle on the launch in Arizona.

Yes.

And so they've become very affordable.

So this was like a $76,000 car that now is, I think I bought it for $20,000.

Yeah.

It was like 80,000.

It was, it was like shocking how, how much the price went down.

Yeah.

And then it also had the diesel, which I wanted.

So it's got the diesel, which is the same diesel that's in the Ford or used to be

in the Ford F-150.

Three liter, exactly.

And so it had everything that I wanted.

I love the color.

I bought it from the local Land Rover dealership and then immediately took it

to Moab and tried to take it up the wall and was really disappointed.

What's wrong?

What happened?

It's cool.

See if you can find that video.

Would you disco five and Moab?

Yeah.

So two problems.

First, it has air suspension.

I think first dirt.

Yeah.

There you go.

It has air suspension.

And when you put it on a sippy toes, I forgot just how rough the ride gets.

So you lose your out of squishiness of the suspension.

Yeah.

It's it's kind of the exact opposite out of travel.

What happens with the Lexus LX, which still has a lot of travel.

Yeah.

When you raise it to its height, this is not it.

This is it.

This is it going off the wall.

No, no, I know, but there's blaze in the back seat.

Yeah.

Blaze is enjoying it.

We have blaze with us and we couldn't do the wall because what would happen is,

and this is the same thing that happened with the Subaru that we got in trouble

for because, you know, we got blacklisted for Land Rover didn't do anything to us.

So thank you.

Appreciate it.

But basically you floor it and the car decides that it has power.

It has no traction.

So Tommy's floored right now.

And you see anything turning?

I see the terminator.

By the way, he has a haircut.

Yeah.

He looks good this.

Okay.

Blaze is haircut too.

But what it does is it just pulls power.

It protects itself.

Come on.

Give us the juice.

It won't give us the juice.

So we swapped on the off road tires and there it goes.

He's fully floored.

Come on.

Do it.

Nothing.

It just won't go.

It just this is so frustrating.

And so maybe he's trying to keep an axle from stamping.

I don't know.

Whatever, whatever programming is in there, it just pulls power and you don't go anywhere.

And that's the most frustrating thing an off-roader can do.

So I drove it with case also on the Denver 100 MPG loop.

Yeah.

It was excellent on fuel efficiency too.

I want to say, I don't remember the exact number, but I want to say we did like 28.

It's incredible.

28 MPG in this big SUV.

That diesel.

Oh, here, Cole will show us.

That diesel, 28.6.

Yeah, that diesel has incredible torque.

Yeah.

I mean, there's something about Landrovers and diesels and Ranger diesels.

You brits know that.

It just, they just work.

It's like peanut butter and jelly.

And so it's like bangers and mash.

So as a car, I love it as an off-roader.

It's a little bit disappointing.

And I wanted to sell it, but then Jen, who now has had little Maddie wants to buy it

from the company and we have this rule at the company is if you want to buy a car,

I'll sell it to you for whatever you bought it for.

And so hopefully she'll end up with this vehicle as her family truckster, which is

a great family trucker, tons of room, very safe, beautiful interior.

Cars completely sorted.

Once again, you know, we spent the money to get it right.

And I hope that she ends up buying it.

Jennifer, if you're watching this, hope you're into buying it because it's a good car.

And I think it'll do you well.

Now, people might be worried about reliability, but that engine has been around a long time.

Yeah.

And they sold actually quite a few of those engines, including in the Ford,

because the Ford F-150 we've tested has the very similar engine.

Now, last car.

Oh, God, no, I have to pick our favorite.

Oh, we'll do that after this last car.

Fiat 2000.

Yeah, go go to classics today.

So we bought Fiat Spider 2000.

Well, it's a 124 Spider 2000 because the 2000 means that in 79, they up the engine from,

I think it was a 1.5 or 1.6 liter to a two liter four cylinder with, here it is.

Look at this open in edited.

How good is that, huh?

He did it such a really good job.

Yeah, he did a cinematic job.

So it's kind of showing you me put in a key in there.

If you're listening to this, I'm trying to tell you, and then the money shot is coming up.

But there's the exhaust starting up.

And this is the money shot because this is where the car looks just like a Ferrari,

which was actually kind of sort of based on.

So this is also a pen, I can never say it.

Peninfarina.

Look how look that looks cool.

That looks it looks very cool.

So it's like, it's basically looks like a miniature Ferrari 365 GTS.

So normally when you first told me about a Fiat convertible, first of all, I got

scared because Fiat's are not known for their life.

Fix it again, Tony.

And also I was scared because there's tiny, small, but then you let me drive it.

Yes.

And it drives great.

Oh, it's such a pleasure to drive.

I was so surprised.

Yes.

And you know what else this car looks like to me?

This Fiat Roadster or convertible.

It looks like a British car to me.

Do you see where I'm coming from?

Well, I mean, like a Triumph.

This was one of the ones that like, like the Mazda Miata was based on.

So it was this and of course all the British, the TRs and all the British

Triumphs and MG's and, oh God, there's so many British cars that that that the.

It looks a little bit British to me.

It looks no, to me, it looks exactly like a baby Ferrari.

If, if, if you fast forward, can you look up?

Okay, Cole, can you just do a quick search for Ferrari 365 GTS, please?

Uh, and I'll show you what I mean.

So this is, I believe it was the same designer who did both cars because back

then Fiat, of course, own Ferrari.

Uh, and so, um, do an image search.

GTS.

There you go.

Show, yeah, show me that blue car.

Oh, 1969.

I see what you mean.

Did you see the resemblance?

Sure.

Same designer.

You can kind of see the resemblance there between the Fiat and that car.

Uh-huh.

Um, very similar.

Yeah.

And so that's why this looks like a poor men's Ferrari.

Oh hell yeah.

This was $4,000 at $3,800.

Yeah.

And so I did a video today.

Go check it out.

It's on TFL classics or all TFL where I said, and I stand by this, that this

is the favorite, this is my favorite car that we bought this year.

And it's for three reasons.

Yes.

You want to, I'll get, please, no, please let me know.

Number one, I just love the way drives.

It's completely the opposite of a software defined.

It's once again, hardware defined car.

Yeah.

There's it's completely and utterly just engaging and very basic.

So it's, it's the you, the car, the road, the wind, the shifter and the engine.

And that's it.

It's just so much fun to drive.

That's number one driving.

Yeah.

Number two, it's because it's, it's so depreciated.

I don't worry about it.

It's not precious.

So some cars like the Corvette you buy and it's got, you know, and you worry,

worry where you park like a worry about the Viper.

Yeah.

This thing you can park, you know, and then somebody has Costco in a

broad truck and come and open their door into it.

And I won't care because you're not going to do any more damage to it.

So that's number two.

And then number three, I love, like I said, convertibles.

And I actually fit in this convertible.

I'm not looking through, even though it looks like I am, I'm not looking through

the top of the A pillar and I fit in it.

It's comfortable.

I could drive this thing as a daily and I wouldn't need the Apple CarPlay or any

of the A-Dash stuff and I would be happy, happy, happy.

So that's why I love it.

So, so you, I was, I was very suspicious about this car.

You didn't have me brought it back to the studio and you said, Andre, you have

to drive it.

And I was like, eh, I'm not sure.

And then you're like, Andre, you have to drive it.

And I said, okay, I drove it, what, five or 10 miles, not very long.

And the shifter just falls at hand.

Very easy to shift.

The steering, I don't think it has power steering, right?

The steering feels really, really good.

Maybe not the tightest steering, but you can actually feel the road when you

drive this car.

And, and the engine is not very powerful.

No, 86 horsepower.

86 new, yeah.

But I didn't care.

You don't care.

I was enjoying the drive, uh, just when I drove it, just the way it came.

I mean, I was worried about oil leaking or, you know, anything, but, but it was

a really good driver.

So that was my favorite.

I'll give you my least favorite, then you give yours.

Yes.

My least favorite was a car I sold this weekend, which was the El Dorado ETC.

Okay.

And it's gone.

So I'll tell you why, cause I didn't fit in it.

Okay.

My, I have two favorites.

One favorite, if it has to be practical and another favorite, if it doesn't,

okay, the practical favorite I have is the Bronco.

If I wanted a vehicle where I could put the family into and drive it every day

or take it on a fun trip has to be a Bronco.

We got some more comments.

Can you read them?

I don't have my glasses on.

Uh, Ted says, um, thank you, Ted.

That thanks for being here.

Yeah.

Thanks for hanging out with us.

Um, he also says sports cars are not made for tall guys.

Yes.

Uh, hope the crank doesn't break on, uh, Jen's, uh, disco.

The crank crank crank crank crank.

I don't know what cranky means.

Oh, you mean like in the engine.

Uh, and then they're known for cranks breaking.

Yeah, I haven't heard that dude.

Sorry.

There's no, there's known for a lot of things, but crank, maybe you're right.

I could be wrong.

I don't know.

Uh, well, she may need to do like the timing belt or change that's coming up.

Yeah, but a crank.

Okay.

Um, I trust it.

Anyways, and if it doesn't have to be that practical, viper, viper, viper,

pick one dude, viper, viper, viper, viper it is.

Don't tell my wife.

I won't tell your wife.

No, she, she, she's not listening.

She doesn't listen to this.

No, well, when it comes time to come to sell it, you know, come, come hit me up.

You may have to park it at the ranch.

I may have to hide it.

So at David's or at the ranch or something.

Honey, I'm going to the grocery store again.

I'll be back in two hours.

But the grocery stores are on the corner.

Oh, I, I bargain hard.

Like you wouldn't believe.

All right.

And the least favorite, there's a list.

I think we bought some more too.

We'd be, you've forgotten.

It's getting out of control, but a lot of these cars are like two grand.

Yeah, they're very affordable cars.

Most of them.

I mean, I would wager that somebody like Hoovey or Doug with his, uh, uh,

Lamborghini and Quintas and his Ford GT and Carrera GT, Carrera.

Yeah.

So Ford, Ford, yeah.

GT, right?

He's got a GT and Carrera GT and Lamborghini spends more on tax in

California than we have spent combined on all these cars.

Yeah.

I don't know.

At least that's what I tell myself when I feel, I think I buy too many cars.

Yeah, the Cadillacs, I don't care much for.

Okay.

Yeah.

Also the Alante, I mean, it did grow on me a little bit, but I just, eh.

All right.

So Alante it is.

Yeah.

Alante.

All right.

Andre, it's Andre's least favorite.

Okay.

Good thing we're selling it.

So if you want Andre's least favorite car.

Uh, yeah, that's, that's not, it's just, it's just, it's just a comfy cruiser.

If you want something that's just fun, you know, and you want to cruise around

it and throw your dog into it and not worry about getting dirty.

That's a good car for that.

Well guys, we have gone a long time.

Andre, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for sticking with us.

Ted, thank you very much.

Did he talk about the crank?

Not yet.

No, he probably fell asleep.

He probably did.

We really apologize.

Yeah, we apologize.

As always, head on over to altifl.com.

If you want to see the latest and greatest.

Remember Friday morning around 10 o'clock mountain time, maybe 1015 AM mountain time.

We have a special 300th episode of TFL talking trucks podcast with a special guest

or actually maybe two special guests.

And we're starting to travel a lot too.

It's going to get really busy.

You're going, you just came back from Detroit.

I did.

Tommy and Kacer in Detroit.

Can you talk about what you know?

No, I cannot.

It's a secret.

Oh, sorry.

Is it embargo?

Yes.

All right.

So we can't talk about it.

I thought, I thought we could even talk about it, but we can't even talk about it.

So I apologize because I hate that when people like promote stuff and then they, we

can't tell you.

So I didn't know.

No, but I really can't.

That's fair.

I just, it was, that's on me.

And then I am going on Tommy are going to go drive the new RAV4 next week.

And you can talk about, I can talk about, well, you haven't driven it yet, but I can

talk about the fact that we're going to go drive it.

So we'll be driving the new RAV4, which is exciting because that's the best selling

car in America.

Then I'm doing Mercedes event after that.

Where are you going?

Germany.

Oh, that's right.

You're going to go do the van, right?

Yes.

But then I also, we're doing something with Ram trucks.

Yes.

That I can't quite talk about yet.

And then there is SEMA.

Yeah.

And then a show.

Yes.

Yeah.

So SEMA, we're all, the whole team's going to SEMA.

That'll be exciting.

And then I am going to Japan.

By the way, if you're in Japan, you're listening to this.

We have TFL Japan now.

Yeah.

Wonderful.

In Japanese.

We have a wonderful team of people who are putting our videos up in Japan.

So thank you guys.

And this is not stolen videos.

These are our videos.

And some are doing really well.

So maybe we're going to be big in Japan.

Andre, who knows?

But I'm going back to Japan for the Tokyo Motor Show with Tommy.

So we're going to have a lot.

If you're a big JDM fan, we're going to have a lot more JDM content

because I got a feeling that there's a lot of cool Japanese stuff that's coming.

I'm hoping that they do another GTR.

I think we also need to get big in China.

Yeah.

We need to expand.

By the way, that's a car.

If you have a GTR that has been on, I hate that word, but I'm not going to say it.

That's not, not modified, but stock.

Let me know.

No, I can't.

I just, we're right about it.

Yeah, please, please.

A stock GTR.

Yeah, but we spent too much money.

We don't have any more.

We're, we got to sell some of this.

We got to get rid of something.

Yeah, we got to see three Corvette is gone.

Yeah, that's gone.

I mean, not gone, but selling selling that Tesla needs to go.

But like, like even an early GTR is going to be like 60,000.

We got to sell some more.

So that's 20 plus the Tesla's another 15.

So that's 35.

That doesn't get us there, dude.

Yeah.

Oh, Alante is gone and needs to go.

Well, that's going to be four.

So 40, we're still not there.

C4.

No, you want to, you want to work on this one still, right?

C4 is not going.

Viper, you want Bronco, we need Bronco need.

Yeah, ID buzz is gone.

I don't know if I can afford the Viper.

Well, I'm not selling it.

That's too cool.

And if we do something and you can't afford it, then you won't have access to it.

So you should be happy.

Yes, I am happy.

So even if we sell like five of these cars, we still can't afford a GTR.

This is the problem.

This is this is why you like, you know, who'd be in Doug make the big bucks

and we go to the donated car auction, which is actually fun, which is more fun.

You don't have to spend a lot of money to have a lot of fun.

All right, we'll see you guys next time.

Ciao.

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