I'm trying to look at the bottom of the frame real quick.
There isn't too much below that.
Let me tell you.
Yeah, yeah, agree.
That's like Silver Alert.
Yeah.
600 million heads.
The, um.
Oh, Slowly about it.
I don't think that's a bad thing, is it?
Good.
You still gets the job done.
Yeah, see Lee.
I mean, still you had missile man.
So the Oh boy, how do we get out of this?
like a bad segue, but here it comes.
I was driving my son to school the other day.
And I saw, and I see it frequently, right?
There's like a couple of different ways
to get to the school.
And one of the ways we'll go to,
I will frequently see A and forgive me,
I don't remember the name of the color,
but whatever the burnt orange,
like Aztec orange or whatever it's called,
in the early 350s.
Really, launch color, right?
Yeah, the launch color.
Really clean one.
It's got like the track addition wheels on it
and it's parked in this driveway,
like maybe 30% of the time I drive down this road.
And it's really clean.
It's bone stock.
Ah, they look good.
And I'm like, God, I would love,
nobody really appreciates the 350s.
Like a nice clean 350s is a cool, fun thing,
but they're kind of not cool.
Ooh, right?
Like the 350s, like in a vacuum it is,
but the problem is that we're not,
we live in a society where like you have,
the ownership group of those cars
has absolutely sullied the name
by the noises of a modified VQ.
But you just hit a niche.
You just hit that niche, dude, you hit,
you said it, stock, clean 350s.
That is different.
That is 90% of the 350s are clad.
More than someone's mom's, but sure,
but if you're hanging out with your homies,
or not your homies, it's just a group of car people
and you're like, oh, I've got a 350z.
They just immediately assume you're some fuck boy.
And maybe you are, and that's fine.
But like, I'd like to,
I'd like to hope people assume I'm a fuck boy
still in my golden years.
That's right.
But like, I guess my point,
and we can circle back to that car of the 350z
specifically.
Yeah, circle jerk, yeah.
Yeah, but my point is not the six inch glands,
not that point, but my thought was like the concept
of cars that are in a vacuum cool.
A standalone thing that are cool,
and I would want to own one,
but they have like a bit of a stigma,
and they've got a bit of like,
their owners have done those cars a disservice.
And so you end up, you don't want to be part
of that ownership group,
and whether that means you don't want to be,
in those forums, which is who's in forums,
or you don't want to run in those,
it's like, you don't want to be,
you don't want to be working to that community
for that car.
And you don't want all of the heat potentially
that comes with it, or the caveats or whatever.
Like, maybe it's that,
maybe it's Plymouth Prowler, right?
Because of like, a Prowler is a cool thing,
but like, are you a 62 year old retired chiropractor?
Cause that's who owns that car.
I don't know, like, but this is what,
I want to talk about cars that are cool,
that you might think are cool,
cars that I think might be cool,
but because of the stigma that comes with it,
because of the ownership group
and just all of that's associated with it, we don't.
I like the use of the term stigma,
cause it's in my notes,
and you nailed it, man.
It's like avoiding those stereotypes, right?
That we associate with certain,
certain makes, certain models.
And I, knowing you,
and I feel like I know you pretty well, man,
I think you're more sensitive to stigma than me.
Probably.
I am put in a weird way.
Like, I think we have you saying,
as we near towards the 200th episode
I tried to stutter,
I think I have you saying, I'm not Corvette guy,
no Corvette guy,
than like 20 something times, right?
And for me, like,
I always call you a car hipster,
but I know you're more of a discerning taste car hipster.
So I let it slide.
And I love you.
I love you so much.
But like, the thing is, like,
I think, and I've done it a few times,
and we're gonna talk probably about personal examples,
cause I actually brought in some personal examples
where I kind of crossed that counterculture line
and embraced these cars,
is I like fucking cars for my own personal reasons.
And you know, I think that overrides stigmas
a lot of times,
but I hear what you're saying.
Like, some of these,
some of these cars have very strong like,
followings that are just like,
obvious stereotypes, right?
And that's what we're gonna try to overcome.
And maybe see the silver lining
in these certain cars.
I think I'm picking up what you're throwing down.
I think a lot of it is, at least for me,
it's just like,
I suck it up, Buttercup.
Like, I just need to like not be as sensitive
to that bullshit as I am, admittedly.
But yeah, like that 350Z,
that was a very cool car,
but just like being 350Z owner,
like I don't know if I want to be a 350Z owner.
Oh, I could.
You know why I could, Frank?
Cause I think back to best motoring
when the 350Z came out,
they loved that car.
It was cool, like all the track battles
and toge battles I think back to those 350Zs
when they were still cool,
because they did come out right in the height,
fast and the furious, dumb, if you will.
So I like them.
And when I see a clean one,
just like that orange one you said,
they are stunning, even in silver.
I think that design has aged incredibly fucking well.
It looks so good.
And I know the 350Z-
The interior might not have.
Absolutely not.
Physically, yeah.
Well, except for the cluster moving
with the steering column,
I like that actually.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a cool touch.
But the 370Z is superior in every way,
but that 350Z just on looks alone,
I really like it.
I don't know.
I'm with you.
And we're not just going to talk about the 350Z, I'm sure,
but I agree.
I think those are very arresting cars
when you see a clean one.
Yeah, and I'm looking at it up there.
Le Bonne's Sunset Metallic.
Cool name too, great color.
Yeah, you can get them with the burnt orange seats,
at least on the leathery boys,
which I think was the touring.
Because when you had base,
you had touring or maybe it's grand touring,
I don't remember which.
You had a track.
Was it track or enthusiast first?
I think there were both.
I think there was a track and enthusiast.
Because it changed.
It changed the trim names changed over the life of that car.
Oh, maybe it was just like the engine.
I think there were three engines, right?
There was like the first one, Revov.
And then the Revo.
And HR.
And HR for high rev.
And then 370Z, which was cool too.
It just made for two damn long,
which was a Nissan standby.
It's just making something for too long.
Would you go 350 or 370?
Dude, you know, honestly, if I was gonna pick one,
350Z Nismo is like my favorite.
Because I love that fucking body kit.
I would want a 350Z.
I don't want a Nismo.
Oh, I do.
I do.
Seam welded.
Seam welded.
Well, that's cool.
Ridiculous.
I don't know.
The styling.
I love it.
Fuck it, dude.
If you're gonna lean in, lean in, dude.
Fair.
Put all the junk on the table.
Because I think they look cool.
I like it.
Yeah.
All three balls on the table.
And just to piggyback off of that,
while we're in VQ land, same shit for G35, G37.
Yep, it's on my list.
Yeah, well, discuss.
Tell me about G37s and G35s.
Sideshow clapped out examples are everywhere.
Right.
I think I told the story on the podcast that one time
where I was driving on the highway
and they had a flamethrower one.
And the dude's bumper was literally melting.
Like his flamethrower G35 VQ is the worst noise
going up a hill.
They're horrible when they're clapped out.
They're just giant, like 20-inch wheels.
And they're all clapped out.
It's all the way clapped out, right?
The car's shit.
Those interiors didn't hold up too well anyway.
So whenever I do see one that I would even think about,
the interiors are usually shot.
But getting the manual with the Brembo brakes,
the gold Brembo brakes that came with those,
I think that's a killer car, man.
It's like a really good car.
I just, I almost sent one to you the other day.
I know you are partial to the four-door variants.
I like both.
Those coupes are so cool.
The coupes are so cool.
They were the coolest thing in the world when they came out.
Dude, so, and I thought they looked so good
when they came out.
I think they still do when they're clean.
But I wanted to send you this four-door one
because it was higher mileage, but super stock,
super clean manual four-door,
which I think is even rarer than the coupes.
Yeah, and needed a clutch.
Okay.
So I was, but he wanted like 2200 or best offer.
And I was like, holy shit.
And the pink wasn't shot.
Is it still out there?
No, it sold like in two days.
But I was going to send it to you.
That would be a cool car to like slap a clutch in for sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
They're great.
I mean, that's a lot of power, nearly 300 horsepower.
Yeah.
What else do you need?
A vape pen?
I don't know.
I know that's more Subaru.
It is.
More Subaru.
And how about that?
I mean, that's what I've always been.
I mean, I've owned a WRX.
Sure.
I've owned a few.
Yeah.
Those ones I think kind of somehow get a pass.
It's a Subaru stuff because like that fan base
has some notorious, whatever we're going to call it,
bullshit they're famous for.
But it really only feels like only modified ones
are fall victim.
If you've got a stock one, people, oh, it's a Subaru.
Like nobody really cares.
But if it's got a wing or if it's lowered,
then it's like, oh, this guy, this guy vapes constantly
and I don't know, it's really, I don't know what.
Bakugan, I don't know.
No.
Ooh.
Still got it.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But yeah, that's one that somehow the stock cars get a pass.
350s, there are no stock cars left
except for the one I drive by.
But yeah, like stock WRX's are iffy, too, right?
Like every time you look at a WRX, it's like,
oh, I've upped the injectors, bigger fuel pump,
all that kind of fun shit, right?
Both stock except for some like three puck racing clutch
for some God, all the reason.
Oh, I hate it.
Single exit, fart can exhaust every single time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Body kit.
Yeah.
I did want to talk about Corvette's for a second.
That's actually first on my list, too.
But here's the thing, though.
I think we've, I think when it comes to C4s,
I think they find, and let me know
if I'm reading the room wrong here.
But like, I think they're finally kind of cool.
They're fucking really cool.
I've always thought they were cool.
Yeah.
They've always like, even like,
if you show up anywhere and like a decent C4, right?
Like, it's like, oh, cool.
Like, oh, nice C4.
Like, it's, we're finally past the thought of like,
either all old man shit or some,
some dipshit with a mullet.
I think we're past that.
I think we're to the point where they're like,
being largely appreciated as like a cool undervalued
thing, because they came in good colors.
You can get different interiors, different wheels.
And there's a lot of variation within the C4.
It had a long life, yeah.
Yeah, it had a long life and a lot of different
special editions and anniversary editions
and Grand Sport and on and on and on.
Zed on once.
Yeah.
And so there's enough variation within there
where you see one and it's probably different
than the last one you saw.
And so I think those are finally have come
to the world of cool.
Can't say the same for C5 and C6.
And I like those cars.
I think they're great,
but like there is absolutely a reputation.
If it's stock, C5 or C6,
you're a million year old man, white guy specifically.
If it's modified, you listen to Andrew Tate
and you, I don't think that's true.
I think you could have a C5, Z06
that's modified for track use.
That's the damn good weapon of a car for the price point.
Yeah.
I mean, if it's like clear track day stuff,
like you've got like squeaky boy track pads
and you've got, you know, sticky tires
and you've got, you know, a fire extinguisher
and you clearly track it.
And that's a little bit different,
but like if you're just like lumpy cam
and smoke to tail lights and, you know,
tribal tattoo decals.
Right.
Yeah.
You are, not playing with Bakugan to tell you that much.
You are, I don't know.
You are harassing women.
I don't know.
I don't know what the specifics is.
Dude, we've relaxed too much on that.
They need to keep it alive.
Good for them.
Somebody's got to be the bad guy
that it's modified C5, C6 guy.
Come on.
We need the sigmas to step up again.
That's right.
No, the tapes.
Inside each of us are two Corvette guys.
We've been over this.
No, I think you're right.
I think the C4, the C4 for me has always been cool
because there's no other decade
but the 80s where something like that
could be dreamed up when you just,
you're looking at a C4,
even if you weren't a car person,
you're like, that came from the 80s.
The way that pop-up headlights are,
the body shape, the tail lights,
like every interior is actually pretty late 70s looking,
but hey, 1984 was slow for GM.
But I think you're right.
I think the C4 is cool because it is,
it's not as hard-edged as the later Corvettes.
I think it's, the early ones were kind of dog shit slow.
I still love it.
In period, they were pretty fast.
Maybe not like the crossfire.
Yeah, no.
84.
The 84s were not, yeah, they got properly quick.
I mean, obviously the ZR1.
85 was 250.
I feel like even a base C5.
By the time you got to LT1, they were like,
Yeah, a base C5 was so much more capable
like next echelon of performance numbers.
But I think you're right.
I think the C4 is recognized as being cool now.
I think that 80s, this is cooler now
than it was like two decades ago.
Like I think in the early 2000s,
no one gave a shit.
C4s were just garbage.
I'd say they rested away but they didn't
because they were fucking plastic.
So,
Well, I think that was too like true.
Like up until maybe 10 years, up until,
this is even fairly recently.
Like there was a, like C4,
like you bought a C4 because you wanted cheap speed
or a perception of, you know, whatever coolness
that may or may not have been attributable to the car,
especially if it was like an auto, you know, pre-LT1 car.
But more recently, it's like you don't buy that car
for performance necessarily.
Not really.
You buy it because it's cool,
because it's got 80s charm.
Like it's more whimsical of a purchase I think today
than it was 10 years ago.
So yeah, I think that's part of the reason why it's,
so I don't wanna see four tomorrow.
Like,
Yeah.
And the prices don't hurt, right?
Like to make it more of an enthusiast interest item,
a price point that's attainable usually helps.
And C4s right now, what a deal to go out and grab
like a later run, like a late 80s early 90s C4
is a killer idea.
Yeah.
Like an early 96 speed car.
Yep.
Anything, like there's some,
there's some cool stuff out there.
So for no money.
So yeah, but I don't,
but I don't see myself as you said that I said
and I'm saying right now,
I don't see myself being Corvette guy at four
in C5, C6 guys, C7,
maybe, I don't know, they drive really,
they're easy to drive.
Insanely great.
Easy to drive fast.
I think I could see you in like a TLC4.
Oh yeah.
A six speed manual, super clean.
I can see you having fun in that.
They're a blast.
Yeah.
But yeah, Corvettes.
How about another one, man?
How about something more modern?
Modern Mopar.
I mean, look, man, overracial, over,
let's stay away from the overtly racial stereotypes
that we're going to talk about with Hellcats and whatnot.
I don't know.
I think that, I think,
I think Hellcats are pretty,
there's a pretty even spread among demographics,
at least realistically.
I don't know.
Stereotypically that might,
they're not on the reals, bro.
I guess so.
I'm not in the reals, dog.
Get in the reals.
Get in the reals.
The thing is, I actually genuinely like modern Mopar
for a lot of reasons.
I think first off,
they're properly powerful cars.
And when this is going back to the SRT-8s rolling out
in the 06s, those are great.
I think Hellcats are super cool.
Probably won't go that far
because they're still pretty pricey, actually,
to tell you the truth,
for what they are.
I mean, you can get one for probably what, mid-40s?
That's like a pretty high mileage, rough one.
Yeah, like mid-40s to 50 will get you a decent one.
But lately, I've been eyeing those Challenger SRT-8s
of the manual.
There's something about getting one of those for the mid-20s
and that's 420 horsepower, six-speed manual,
proper retro style looking muscle car.
Those are cool.
4,000 pounds.
And it's not like, who gives a shit, dude?
Enough torque to twist the earth back the other way.
It's just, they're so cool.
I think it's got so much style.
I think it's well executed.
There's a reason it's hung on so long
or did hang on so long.
Yeah, I love them.
I owned one of those.
I owned probably the weirdest SRT-8, the Magnum,
which is kind of like,
who's are like a real-world drive muscle wagon
coming out from Dodge at that time.
And that was a cool car.
And that's totally, like, you look at my car history, dude,
just taking into account the shit boxes.
I mean, the Mercury, Tracer, LTSs,
a handful of Miata's, Glop, VR4s.
Why the hell did I buy a Magnum SRT-8?
Dude, if you could.
Because I could.
And it ended up being one of the funnest projects
I ever did, dude.
And I still to this day,
that car was such a fucking riot, dude.
Every time I got in that thing, you know,
it was a good, once I sorted it and replaced the cam
and did all that fun stuff and put the head back on it.
Great, great fucking cool car, dude.
Like just cool car.
Yeah, you know, I've got that stuff on my list too,
whether it be like the Scat Pack
or the, you know, or Hellcat or whatever.
Because, yeah, this, like, this stick,
I almost said stick modda, that's not quite what I'm going for.
The blood coming out of the other hands.
Yeah, yeah, he.
Free baby Hazy's got to.
Exactly, the stick modda around the Challenger
is, and charger, maybe even more charger, maybe,
because of all the X-Base model,
like the base model exponentials running around.
Like a really bad rap and largely earned.
You know, it's almost like the more aggressive,
big Ultima energy.
Mm, true, true.
Because you can, imagine if you can option out
a 700 and 700 and something horsepower Ultima.
Yeah, it doesn't have the yellow.
The yellow chin spoiler, though.
Yeah, T-Banana.
So bad, dude.
But I would, I don't know, I'd kind of fuck with one.
I think it'd be cool to have a,
I think I'd want to go charger.
I think I'd want charger.
Really?
Give me the, it's automatic only.
Yeah.
But like.
They look great.
Those chargers look fantastic.
They look good, the wider wheelbases.
Especially with the wide body, yeah.
Less murdersome.
But yeah, I could own one day
and I've got a long Mopar history, personally.
So I definitely would, yeah, but like,
I'm immediately like, do I get a white one?
Like, what is the, how do you spec one out
to still be cool and good,
but like avoid as much of the,
you know, I'm gonna be your future,
your future baby mama or baby daddy drama.
Stigmata.
You said fuck it.
You keep that on the table, man.
You always keep that option over.
You chrome, you chrome wrap it or your urban camo wrap it.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
But it's like, my Magnum was the same way, right?
But I could rip a nasty burnout with it.
And then the door opens.
You wouldn't expect me to walk out, right?
But that's why.
I think the Magnum kind of gets a pass though.
I don't know, man.
I think the Magnum does.
It's way, it's way more subdued.
It's probably the most subdued in appearance
other than maybe like a Durango.
That low roof line, the kind of squinty windows,
the 20 inch wheels.
It's definitely got a lot of attitude.
And it wasn't a subtly sounded car.
It was pretty beefy.
But yeah, I just don't care about the stereotypes
of those things.
They're great cars.
The Hemi engine is pretty stout, easy to work on.
When it will eat a cam.
When it wants to be.
When it does a valve cam handshake.
I don't know.
Look for cam handshake.
300, 300, 300 C or?
Oh yeah, yeah, those are cool.
They are especially an early one, an early one SRT.
That would be cool.
They are cool.
I like how they put that force that little clock in there
to make it different from the charger.
How it's luxury.
Right.
It's the same seats and everything.
The white face gauges.
Yay.
They all have that.
The font is fancier.
I liked it.
Man, I like that font.
I miss that car.
But yeah, that's definitely a car
that has a big stereotype that those modern MoPars.
Right up there with Jeeps, my friend.
Yes.
I was gonna say Jeep.
I, when I was looking for an ad for the quiz game,
I somehow stumbled upon an ad for aftermarket Jeep shit.
And it was all various versions of the angry eyes grill.
Oh no.
Which is.
Which is still pretty prevalent.
It is and it might be, okay, let's just,
this is semi-on topic.
Is the angry eyes Jeep grill headlight treatment thing
the single worst popular
like mod for any modern vehicle, period?
So would you put it above auto?
Auto zone stick on fake chrome.
Man.
Maybe.
You know what I'm talking about.
Maybe.
Like honest rice.
You know what I'm talking about.
No.
Like it's.
Yes.
Is it worse than M badges on M cars?
Yes.
Or when they paint the front grill, the BMW colors.
Yes.
It's so cringy though.
It is.
That's not good.
None of that is good.
Yeah.
It's,
I would say the only thing that would maybe be worse
is when people go full blackout tint every window,
including the windshield.
Yeah.
Night shading the tail lights and the headlights.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like fully.
No joke.
Murdered out.
Yeah.
Murdered out is pretty rough.
The angry, the angry eyes, it's just, it's baffling.
It's baffling.
Because not only is it like trying to be intimidating,
which is my least favorite play
in the automotive playbook, it's also awful looking.
And you have to spend a not insignificant amount of money
to do it, especially when they're like painted to match.
I just imagine going to some body shop
and paying like two grand for that.
Instead of like, I don't know, feeding your kids.
Instead of auto zone chrome.
Retiring six months early.
Yeah, like I don't, I don't know.
I just, I don't.
Fair enough.
And I'm one to spend money on dumb shit.
But I will say,
I think there are ways to do the Jeep thing
not cringy.
There's a lot of ways actually.
However, I don't want to be in the Jeep community.
So, well, there is a counter Jeep community.
It's why I said in my first line of my description,
I go, if you look past all the fake off-road bro
and rubber duck bullshit,
there's some classic like Jeep things that are super cool.
It's got a huge history of genuinely good
like off-road rugged, cool vehicles.
I like the vintage stuff from like the 70s and 80s
when it comes to Jeep.
You know, put me in like an old command sheet or something.
I think I could really get into a manual command sheet.
Like an AMC V8 powered like CJ file
or something like that.
Or even something more moderny.
I think the commander could be a fun build.
I think Jeep commanders are kind of silly and fun.
And they're not, they're not like, you know,
Rubicon off-road bros.
They're just a different,
it's a different style of Jeep, right?
There's a lot of classic stuff.
Yeah. Like the rebels,
like there's some pretty cool like variants back in the day
that I thought compass, the Patriot, the Patriot act.
But no, it's a,
there's some really good shit out there, man.
If you dig in Jeep.
So, and I think you find that there are some cool off-road
weird dudes that are into weird Jeeps.
And they're very different.
They're very different than the angry I have a winch.
I have a winch, but it's not connected to anything.
It's just on the bumper kind of guys, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got a shovel on the back at the red,
got the red, red hijack stuck to the hood.
The high-lift jack, but like plastic fenders and shit,
like nowhere to actually mount the jack.
Like not a bumper delete and you're like,
what's going on here?
Yeah, like there are, I think that's well said.
There's definitely, and I don't know what like the,
the proper way again,
cause I'm not in the Jeep community good or the bad
or the middle of the road.
I don't know.
I don't know if the right way to say it is like,
there's a good community and a bad community.
Cause that's maybe dismissive of the quote unquote,
bad community because maybe there's people there's like,
yeah, I have a Jeep because I think it looks cool.
And I want to make it look pissed off for some reason.
Yeah, I like ducks.
So of course I'm going to like accept a duck.
But like just that's why they own it.
And like, I don't know.
I've owned dumb shit.
So who am I to judge?
I currently own lots of dumb shit.
So like who am I to judge?
And I appreciate that.
But some of it is just, I just cannot understand it.
Like the angry I sing is not to keep,
not to keep circling back to that,
but I'm going to keep circling back to that.
It's so bad.
It's like the on a fixed to the vehicle version
of like the timeout doll at like the sock hop
car show, boomer car show thing.
I just, I cannot, I cannot understand it.
Frank, were you bullied by guys wearing no fear t-shirts?
Is that I'm picking up on a little vibe there.
No, it was big Johnson actually.
Excellent.
Well, yeah, that's fair.
You should accept that.
You should accept that bullying.
Yes.
No, you're right, dude.
I'm with you on that.
I think some of that stuff's really, really cringey rough,
but there are some like, like the thing is a lot
of those Jeep, especially the Rubikons and stuff
come from the factory capable.
I know a lot of guys that modify that 90s, 80s
kind of era Jeeps.
Yeah.
Some serious off-road work.
Classic Cherokees are super cool
when they're modified for off-roading too.
So they're, they're simply if you're,
if you're putting dirt on your Jeep,
you're doing whatever the fuck you want.
Stick a duck in my butt.
I'm cool with it, man.
I'll make that thing quack, but, but seriously.
Damn girl, I'ma make it clap for you or quack.
What that ass duck do.
No, yeah, it does a lot of things.
No, just like a classic Jeep setup for off-roading.
It always looks right to me, especially if it gets used,
you know, like the use case should be for that vehicle.
Right.
Yeah.
Man, there's gotta be some other stuff.
I think of Viper,
Vipers are cool enough that I could,
I could get beyond like,
and honestly, I think the Viper guy stigma thing
is kind of gone.
I think, I don't.
They all literally died.
Yeah, they're all dead.
They have all perished.
You know, if anything like GT and under Mustangs,
probably carry that torch now, right?
Like the leaving the cars and coffee
and murdering pedestrians.
Oh, it's been a while, yeah.
Like, if you've got a GT 350 or 500
or Dark Horse or something like that,
I think you avoid a lot of that.
Dude, Boss 302.
Yeah, yeah.
Super cool.
But if it's like GT or under,
like I think the stigma is still kind of there,
let alone convertible, like a Mustang convertible,
a GT convertible with a six-speed could be a fun thing.
Yeah, and Fox Body Mustangs are still cool as shit
in my book anyway.
I love them.
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of want an SVO,
but you're in your counterculture.
You're in your two, three turbos, bro.
Right.
Well, I want that two, five non-turbo IROC
or non-IROC, but that generation Camaro.
Iron dude, let's go.
Holy shit.
Yeah, just to...
Zero to 60 in 10.8 seconds.
Zero to 60, NA.
Battery died in the clock.
What are we missing?
There's gotta be some stuff we're missing here.
I think we hit the big stuff.
I don't know, man.
Here's the thing, I want to be PT,
not PT Cruiser Guy,
but I want to have a PT Cruiser
in spite of PT Cruiser Guy.
I do not, because I have to do too much work on my vehicles
and I know the Horisters are working on PT Cruisers.
I heard how cramped it is,
I hear how much of a nightmare it is
and I'm good with avoiding that.
For a four year anniversary,
I know we're not the 200 or four year yet,
but for your anniversary,
we should get a special guest.
It should be Brian Nesbitt.
We need to get Nesbitt on the pod.
That would be our dream come true, wouldn't it?
Be like, what kind of drugs are you on, man?
Yeah, maybe when we get,
maybe next episode, episode 200,
we can talk about who we want to have on the pod eventually
and him, John Davis, God, who else?
Not from Corn.
Not from Corn.
No, that's Jonathan Davis.
Yeah, there's a list, Scotty Kilmer, I don't know.
Well, we'll have a list of people
that maybe we can get on this upcoming year.
But yeah, I'd be up,
I did my toes in the PT Cruiser community
just to kind of see what's behind,
what's back there, you know?
No, dude, there's nothing but upside down pineapples.
Upside down pineapples.
Yeah, yeah, do port cigarettes.
It's probably exactly like,
is it the villages I think it's called?
Is that huge retirement community in Florida
that has like the nation's highest STD rate?
Because it's all these retired seniors
and they're like, whatever, my wife just died.
I'm gonna be soon.
Syphilis, who cares?
Like, and they just, they're just out there
just spreading it around.
I assume that's what the PT Cruiser community is.
It's like, God bless them.
Yeah, yeah, it's fender skirts
and wood paneling and swinger parties for the other way.
So what's our takeaway for this conversing session?
Do we just say fuck stereotypes
and give some of these cars a try
or some of these archetypes are so strong we can't,
we can't, there's barriers of entry to these car communities
that we just can't suffer through.
What are we doing here, man?
What are we gonna?
I'm gonna go buy an Ultima.
No, I wanna do that.
I think I've expressed that before.
Yes, we should get really into Carolina squat trucks.
Oh, let's see, that's cool.
We didn't even get there.
That's even tougher.
But that's like the, that's the thing though,
that's different, right?
Because that's like a mod community.
It's like getting into like,
like Houston's swangers or, you know, drag donks
or like there's all these like way, you know,
bozuzoku or dot, I do wanna get, I do wanna dodgy bun.
I wanna dodgy bun badly.
We can do a low rider, that'd be kind of fun.
You know, I was thinking too,
like on the upcoming,
cause we are most at 200 episodes.
I was thinking maybe we do,
the next challenge isn't just a rally car challenge,
it's just a challenge in general.
I was thinking like, I don't know,
budget adventure vans, face tattoos.
Imagine sub $5,000 adventure vans.
Sub $5,000, like off road adventure vans.
They gotta do everything.
Ooh.
And then we go camping.
It's doable.
Yeah, just find like a roled over sports mobile
and like kick out the broken windshield
and just sell a thing in it and go.
You gotta camp in that bad boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All these holes in it.
The critters are getting in.
It'd be kind of fun.
But challenges like that.
And then we just go camp.
Or I mean, we do the gambler.
With PT cruisers.
We could.
I'm sure somebody's done a gambler
and a PT cruiser for certain.
Not a convertible Woody.
Maybe.
Oh, did they make Woody convertibles?
You make one yourself, dude.
Come on.
It's true.
With real wood, you just sheet metal screws.
Real fucking wood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rad, are you ready to fall victim
to fall prey to our quiz game?
Yeah, let's do this.
I want you to pull up your evil concoction there.
If it's on cock.
This is our automotive print ad quiz game show
aptly named.
Frank is going to read a magazine article,
insertion and advertisement for a car
of the 80s, 90s, mid 2000s.
All fair game.
I have three guesses to figure out
what the hell he's talking about.
Every time I fail,
I can ask for a hint.
The answer is always no.
I have 10 minutes on the clock
to figure out what he's talking about.
These ads never lie.
Frank, were all that beautiful bean footage?
Boy.
Maybe.
How do you feel today?
Do you feeling you want one,
you want easier or more difficult?
How are you?
What mood are you in?
Yes.
I'm good for whatever you want to throw at me, my man.
I don't know if I'm feeling super brain fogless,
but I could try anything.
If you want to spice it up, I don't mind.
If you want to go easy on me, let's go spicy.
I do have a make it rain gun.
I'd like to fire off, but oh, boy.
Teaser, maybe.
OK.
Shoot.
Let's see what you got.
I'll go with the harder one.
Oh, we'll go the harder one.
Fair enough.
In 8.5 seconds.
Actually, hold on, hold on.
I'm jumping again.
Let me let me describe.
Oh, shit.
I know who.
So there's a one page ad.
We see the vehicle in question at the bottom.
Not quite front, like three-quarter image, but like almost.
It's like right on facing straight at it.
At we got the Dutch angle thing going.
Hmm.
It's that the wheel is turned.
There is a Caucasian gentleman, I think.
With a mustache.
Wow.
Yes.
And he's got a mustache and it looks like maybe some dark sunglasses.
And the words say this, the words above it,
says in 8.5 seconds, blank will change your mind about blanks.
And blanks is the manufacturer, not like a racial group or anything.
Hard R. Yeah.
Exactly.
Wow.
This isn't the after dark.
This is a different time.
Yeah, 8.5 seconds will change your mind about blanks.
OK.
In 8.5 seconds, blank, the model, will change your mind about blanks.
OK.
The make, not a religious group.
Let's face it, some people think of a blank as being, well, traditional.
But in 8.5 seconds, zero to 60 time at our proving grounds is hardly what you
would call stayed.
This is a blank.
Ah, yes, it's the new blank.
It's smartly outfitted and full of surprises, as you can see.
It sports an available multi-port electronically fuel injected
turbocharged 1.8 liter engine that makes it both fast and practical.
It has front wheel drive and high rate of suspension
linked with quick steering produces the precise handling.
You might not expect from blank.
Visit a blank dealer and buckle yourself into a blank.
Then brace yourself for a change of mind and a pleasant one at that.
Blank, wouldn't you really rather have a blank?
Chadwick Jesus, wouldn't you rather have a blank?
Wouldn't you really rather have a blank sometimes?
Good flavor.
OK, interesting.
1.8 turbo.
Yep, multi-point fuel injection, front wheel drive.
The old MPFI, if you will, kind of points me in the direction.
So there's the 1.8 turbo, actually, and front wheel drive.
Everything else is super dated terminology, which helps.
But this is tough, dude.
Immediately, I thought, Oldsmobile, because, God damn it, did they ever push
that this is not your father's Oldsmobile, right?
Like this feels almost that similar, that similar vein that GM's like, oh,
this isn't, you know, this isn't your father's Oldsmobile.
They did that like the Trafeo and Torado.
Or in this case, wouldn't you really rather have a blank?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Hardly what you would call stayed.
This is a blank.
Ah, yes, this is the new blank.
There wasn't a lot of, I want to say this is like at the latest
mid-80s, because the terminology pins it right there.
This thing has an ABS badge on it somewhere.
Maybe. Let's be honest.
Didn't mention it in the ad.
MPFI points to be right to GM.
These are, this is my error, where I feel like I know the cars decently.
God, dude, it's I need more, though, Frank.
Front-wheel drive 1.8 turbo.
That 1.8 turbo was around during that period, the mid-early to mid-80s.
I love that they're like super excited about 8.5 seconds, 0 to 60s.
That's super excited about that.
About in real life.
The motor week probably was like a nine or 10.
My God, are they trying to make you re-imagine this brand as being exciting?
Yeah, because if it is Oldsmobile, it's not in the 80s.
It's not Cadillac.
Cadillac would never, ever try to change their imagery during that period.
High-risk suspension, linked with quick steering produces precise handling
you might not expect from blank.
What did they?
What did they put that engine?
Here's the problem, though, is I think there was both an Oldsmobile
and a Buick offering with that 1.8 turbo, if I remember correctly.
And there's not enough to give it either way.
It's a good thing you got three guesses, my friend.
Now, I don't know if they, if this is early 80s, then it can't be a cut list
because I, when did those go from rear-wheel drive to front?
It was that during that time, right, the early 80s, perhaps.
And this is front-wheel drive, which it said in the ad.
It goes, it says, you know, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup,
turbo-charged engine makes it both fast and practical, period.
It has front-wheel drive, period.
And then an entire new paragraph.
It's in its own paragraph.
It has front-wheel drive.
It has front-wheel drive.
It's just a floating sentence.
I think they were really trying to sell that during the 80s, too.
Bro, what could this...
There's not enough details to differentiate between those.
The makes.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a poor guess.
I would never guess.
And my first guess is question mark.
So I got a couple of cars.
Let's go, let's explore Oldsmobile.
What did Oldsmobile stick the 1.8 in?
It was a...
I think there was a cutlass.
I'd like to say it wasn't the supreme.
It was like the cutlass...
I don't know.
Let's just, let's get it out there.
Get it out of the ether and get it onto the internet.
The web.
Saving space.
Let's go Oldsmobile, cutlass.
Definitely not the Cal-A yet.
It'll be the cutlass.
Who would just say supreme?
Maybe a cutlass supreme.
1985.
Final answer.
This is not the 1985-ish Oldsmobile cutlass supreme.
Or regular cutlass.
Or cutlass Sierra.
Or any of the other cutlass.
Right, right.
It is not named after a sword, I don't think.
No, that is not correct.
I don't think the cutlass ever got that motor.
Any variant of it?
I don't think so.
I think the size...
Is a smaller car, right?
A more compact than the cutlass, which got this motor.
Maybe it's not an Oldsmobile.
Maybe it's not an Oldsmobile, he says.
Maybe it's not an Oldsmobile.
Well, that leaves us Buick, because it's not a Chevy badge vehicle.
It's not a Cadillac.
Buick, so Buick, a little smaller.
Oh, this is a good one.
This is before all the Buicks were named with E's,
and were SOEVs or crossovers.
What were they called?
So they had the Buick...
Yeah, they're all E's now, right?
So you've got the Enclave.
Envision.
The Envision.
Endeavor.
The Eugenics.
Like they're all the endoscopy.
Yes, the End Times.
So these are pretty...
If this...
Ah, it could be.
Those are not a...
That wasn't...
The little Buick, the little...
What the hell was the name of it?
I almost said Skylark,
and that's a different animal altogether.
Sky...
It's a lark, isn't it, Sky?
Buick, was it the Hawk?
Skyhawk?
Had a 1.8 turbo.
It could be what we're talking about.
That wouldn't make sense.
80...
This is a little...
Was that later or earlier, the 82?
I don't know.
I don't know.
The Buick counterpart...
Yeah, you're right on the Oldsmobile.
Things are clarifying it wasn't Oldsmobile.
I know what you're talking about, the small one now.
But it's the equivalent of that, basically.
1.8 turbo was offered in a Buick Skyhawk,
and I don't think it had a trim or anything special.
I think that's just the way it came.
1980...
What did I say, 82?
Final answer.
Buick, Hawk of the Sky.
And these things are cool, man, if it is.
It is a Hawk of the Sky.
This is a 1984 Buick Skyhawk T-Type.
That's right, because they use the T-Type from the...
Yes, the T-Type.
The GX, yep.
So you could get the non-T-Type,
which was just a basic ass.
So this is a J-Body car.
So this is a shared platform with the Cavalier.
With the...
First it was the J2000, was the Pontiac,
but then they renamed it the Firebird.
Or not the Firebird, sorry, the Sunbird.
Sunbird, yeah.
And you had the Skyhawk.
And the Oldsmobile one.
Do you remember what the Oldsmobile J-Body was?
It wasn't the Achiever yet, was it?
It was the...
I actually think we...
Still on that little chest, that J-Body.
The Achiever was like the same as the Cutlass, I think.
We did a quiz on the Oldsmobile, I believe.
I'm not mistaken.
The Ferenza.
The Ferenza, did you know, though,
that Chevy didn't have the 1.8 Turbo.
They didn't have a version with that.
Nor did the Oldsmobile.
The Oldsmobile was not available with the Turbo.
Pontiac.
You can get that terrible 2.8 liter, 130.
I think the ballsyest one was not available.
It's not terrible.
It's not terrible.
And so the Turbocharged ones you could only get.
And then, of course, the Simeron was there,
the Cadillac J-Body.
The Olde Turbo one, you can get in the Sunbird Turbo
and in this car.
You could get the Sunbird in a convertible
with a manual, too, I believe, so.
Which is probably the coolest one to get.
So I think these were good for like a 160 horse
and like the same torque.
Was it that high?
Yeah.
I thought it was a little less than that.
No, and then I think a later one you can get,
they did like a 2 liter for like one year,
I think in like 87 or 88 or something.
And I think that was good for,
it was like 180 horse or something.
And it's like, I think that would be sick to have.
But let me see if I can get your link to the end.
They're pretty cool.
If I remember they're kind of boxy.
I remember they had a cool hood, like a Dodge Shadow.
Didn't it have like a power bulge or something?
Yeah, it's got a little power bulge
and it's got like a small grill in the bumper.
So it's like, you don't really see a grill up top.
They're pretty cool.
I cannot remember the last time I've seen one.
No, they don't exist.
So there was a guy with a convertible sunbird,
1.8 turbo manual I was going back and forth with.
He was asking like 8,500 bucks.
And it wasn't even like a, it wasn't even crazy.
It was like, the paint was shot
and it had like 130,000 miles.
Let me click on your linky link here.
But he just wouldn't come down.
He was like convinced it was some special car.
I'm like, it's really not, I mean, it's rare.
I'm the only idiot that's gonna be interested in this thing.
Yeah, you could tell.
He was trying to string me around.
He's like, no, I gotta take, I gotta take at least seven.
I'm like, it's not worth three.
Okay, yep.
There's the power bulge hood and everything.
I love it, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'd like one.
So in lieu of finding a skyhawk for us to play with.
Do I make it rain?
Oh yeah, you have passed the test.
Let's do it.
So I gotta make it rain.
I have a celebratory money.
Folks watching on YouTube, yeah, I've got a dollar.
Make it rain.
Let's see if it actually works.
Oh, oh.
Oh, that was $10.
That was, oh, that goes quick.
It's fucking, this thing rocks.
Damn, I can't afford to take this to the actual clubs,
but it worked.
Yeah, I heard you get in trouble
if you fill it with monopoly money
and take it to the strip club.
They got multiple children to feed.
Sir, we're gonna have to ask you to leave.
Yeah, yeah.
Some of them could be,
if you play your cards right
and you don't fill it with monopoly money,
maybe those future children could be yours.
Okay, reload it for the next episode.
Yes, yes, yes, that would be good.
So cool, we have a new props and this is fun.
In, do you have any new props?
Have you bought any cars?
Have you been making progress on any of your projects?
Have I bought any cars?
No, I'm very much, I don't even look at,
so I look at cars as like a punishment
and it's like building my discipline level.
It's like edging.
I'm like, mm, yeah.
Automotive edging.
Right before I messaged them,
I write out a really good message
and I delete the whole thing
and never look at it again.
Yeah, it's like cathartic.
God, dude.
So I've actually done
one of the worst restoration jobs I've ever done.
Not just overall project review, thank you, thank you.
But I've, I tried to polish a windshield.
Like a very scratched windshield.
80 grit.
I'm not saying it came out bad.
It came out great.
It was one of the worst jobs I've ever done though
because there is no way to get at a windshield
in a comfortable posture.
First off.
Second off, glass is fucking weird
because glass is hard.
But so you go too hard, glass is easily scratched.
It's like this fine fucking line.
You can't just put a sander to it
because that can heat it up, crack glass.
You can do all these horrible things.
You could make it like a swirl mark, like nightmare.
So the V50, at one point they were running sandpaper
for windshield wipers.
Oh, good.
And it's the original Volvo glass
with the airbag sensors, you know,
all that kind of stuff from 2005.
So it's 188,000 miles.
It's rough.
Dude, at night it's like literally like Star Wars.
It's cool.
It's a nightmare.
It's a horror.
Even if you're on a street.
In an opposite lane, far, far away.
Yeah.
Or there's like in a ditch, far, far away
because you miss the corner.
If there's like a caution sign or something,
your own headlights reflect off of it, blinding.
It's that bad.
So I tried some fine glass polish
from the good folks at Griot's,
which is a good product.
Didn't touch it.
I used, there's some begins to the B powder
that you mix your own stuff and guys swear by it.
No pain.
Go fuck it, yes.
BCP.
So I got that, didn't touch it.
So I'm like, God damn it.
So I went deep diving on the old muscle car forums,
which can be a hoot sometimes to get on there and see.
If you wanna see how toothpaste can be used for everything,
join one of those like galaxy forums or whatever, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I get on this little forum
and a guy swears up and down,
he's like get hand soap,
like the orange clean with pumice in it.
Okay.
And mix it with like a compound,
a rubbing compound in like a 50-50 ratio or whatever.
And just you have to do a lot of passes.
So I'm like, where to shot it?
I've got both those things.
Yeah, dual action polisher.
You can do it by hand, but you know, two years later.
Yeah, you will literally die.
I had all that stuff.
So I'm like, just let me throw some on the windshield
and see what happens.
I did the passenger side first
so I don't destroy the windshield.
I get on there with my DA.
I do like a good half hour session.
And I wipe it off, I'm like, holy shit.
The scratches are actually less defined.
There's not swirls or anything.
The pumice is like that perfect level
where it's not as hard as the glass physically.
So it didn't scratch the glass
and it was actually removing the scratches.
You're really just wearing down the glass.
Let's be honest.
I was like, cool, four hours later, it looked pretty good.
And then I did the other side.
So eight hour job to do it.
It's huge.
I didn't have to replace the windshield.
But dude, what a pain in the dick,
like arched over your fucking windshield.
There's no good way,
especially in the middle,
I think where your arms are.
And the DA is just punishing your hands
like the whole time.
It's what a shitty restoration step,
but the windshield is great.
It looks so much better, dude.
You ever go up to an older car
and you see where the windshield wipers left those?
It just detracts.
I mean, they're not invisible,
but I can see out of the windshield now
and that's what counts.
So that was what I,
and I didn't do it all at once.
So I actually left the shit on there
because it doesn't really harden.
And I would come back like the next day
and just fucking put some fresh hand cleaner
and just go at it.
So I did that for about a week,
like the entire week since we've been away.
Yeah, dude.
So how close is that car to being ready
for its next owner?
So I'm trying to resolve the airbag issue.
So believe it or not,
the remaining airbag fault code,
I have an ABS SRS scan tool,
so I'm able to pull the codes
if you don't your shit out of luck, right?
SRS codes are really tricky.
It's a driver tension voltage threshold.
So it's for the seat belt
because it has that explosive thing
where it tightens the seat belt or whatever.
But anyway, like what happens is over time,
the sensor can fail
and that's why you usually get a higher low voltage reading.
And there's really no way to fix that
without replacing it with a junkyard one.
And then who knows if the junkyard one's good
and it's a nightmare.
So I found a service that will repair it
for like a hundred bucks.
So I think that might be the play
just to ax that airbag light, you know?
Yeah, you spend a hundred bucks
and get that light to go away.
We'll see though, like here's the thing too.
It could resolve the issue,
but it might be a hard code
that you need like a Vita scan tool
or like a Volvo scan tool.
And then like I could get the Vita scan tool for a hundred bucks
but you got to pay for a subscription to use that.
It's a fucking, I, God damn you.
You just find like a nice specialist and be like,
hey man, can I just really bring you a six pack
and you can clear this code
or it's like charge me a half hour or whatever.
Right, but especially Volvo being as safety minded
as they are, if that part got fixed
or I'll have no way to tell if it actually changed it.
Right, because the code will stay locked in the car.
And then yeah, I'll have them reset it
and it'll turn back on.
And I'll be like, oh, I'm out like $200, $300, right?
So fucking nightmare, dude.
But the car's functionally safe.
Like the driver, the airbag works.
It's just the seatbelt tensioner.
And it, who needs that, please?
I mean, like really?
Yeah.
Anyway, that's what I did.
Horrible windshield restoration.
It came out great, but good.
Do what a fucking unfun time.
Zero fun.
I have a confession.
Uh-oh.
I bought a car.
Here's what's weird is your Sprint Turbo is in the background.
So I thought you were gonna tell me you got rid of it.
No, not yet.
Not yet.
I got it out.
I'm cleaning my garage because soon-ish
I'm getting a new garage door put in.
Oh, nice.
So I'll keep the riffraff and the mice
and then get this to be a place
where I can actually feel better about working on stuff
and eventually put a lift in here.
So I'm cleaning it out.
That's why the Sprint Turbo is gone,
but it's not gone far.
It's just not in here.
Okay, new car.
What did you do?
Ah, what did you do, Frank?
I brought home a stray.
I've talked about it on the pad.
I think I talked about it briefly on the pod.
It's a car donation car.
It's about to go to the record
because nobody wanted it.
Oh.
And I'm captain save a car.
1989.
Oh.
Volvo 740 Turbo.
Sedan automatic.
Okay.
100 or 262,000 miles.
Barely broken in.
Prior salvage.
Okay.
Looks really good.
It thrives really good.
All the windows work, everything.
There's like, there's not much wrong with it,
but a lot of miles prior salvage, nobody wanted it.
So I got it for 1,000 bucks.
Can't go wrong.
For running, driving, tagged to like September of 2026.
Nice.
You can tell somebody looked after the car
despite its history, like he got in a wreck
and they're like, oh, I like this car.
I'm keeping it.
And so it's been on the road.
I don't know when it was salvaged.
I will find it out.
I don't know how it was salvaged.
I will find that out.
But it's just like first blush,
it's got like new tires on it.
God damn it.
It's like a light blue silver color,
black leather interior.
There's one, I don't know, five inch tear
on the driver's seat bottom.
It's got an aftermarket head unit that works.
The power antenna goes up.
The sunroof opens and closes and doesn't leak.
God damn.
It seems like a pretty tight car
despite its history and its odometer.
The only thing, A, needs a battery.
No big deal, I'll toss a battery in it.
It's on me to smog it,
but it passed back in July.
Oh, it's good.
And that was like 40 miles ago, so whatever.
Yeah, I don't know what my plan is for it,
other than I just wanted to keep it on the road
and not have it go to the wrecker.
Yeah, too nice.
It's too cool.
It needs to be on the road.
So it's probably gonna be get a smog,
get a battery, get a title.
The only thing I can see maybe doing
is if I can find someone to do a leather repair
just to make it look,
cause it's just got a piece of like duct tape
over right now.
Yeah.
And just like get it detailed and take photos of it
and sell it for 2,500 bucks.
Yeah, at least.
Yeah, like it should do well.
It's desirable, it's got the turbo wheels,
not like the twist, like the fancy turbo wheels.
Not the twisty twist, but the five spoke ones.
Those are nice.
Yeah, so can't buy shit for 1,000 bucks anymore, man.
That's a good grab.
I know, let a little, a strong runner driver
that looks cool and it's a boxy turbo.
It's a turbo even.
So yeah, so that's a thing.
I'll pay attention to the various social medias
and I will get some content of that thing.
So what you're saying is you bought that to distract you
from actually finishing your other projects?
No.
It's just on top of...
Oh, okay.
So yeah, that's, I brought home another stray
because I'm a fool.
It's cool, you can't pass on that.
Sometimes you get those deals where you just can't pass.
I know, and this is gonna be,
I hope it just passes through my hands.
Not because I don't like it.
I drove it like, God, this thing drives.
It just drives really well.
Like it's just, it's so...
They feel so solid.
Yeah, they feel so solid too, right?
So substantial.
Yeah, this is the second one of these I had
because I got another one cheap from Cardination
and Fixed and then flipped for like $5,800
within like four weeks.
This is not what this is gonna,
this car's not, doesn't have that value.
But it's cool and it drives just as well.
And you're like, oh, I get why this was like a premium thing
in the 80s.
It feels like it even after over a quarter million miles
in a salvage title, so.
Shit, you should see the other car.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
But you'll have to check that thing out.
So anyways, do you hear that?
Can you hear that knocking?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that the episode 200?
Us knocking on the door of 200 episodes.
I believe we're doing it in a week.
Yeah, yeah.
We might keep it track at home.
Allegedly, a week, a minute.
Who knows?
Who knows?
But yeah, so this is fun, this is exciting.
I don't know, maybe we'll have
some interesting stuff coming.
Maybe we'll have some announcements.
Maybe we'll, I don't know.
You're gonna have to tune in next week to find out.
So thank you for making it this far.
If you've listened to 199 of these,
A, I'm sorry, B, let us know.
I don't know, I don't know how we will reward you.
We'll shout you out.
Maybe I will mail you some of my fingernail clippings.
Chadwick, do you have, I don't have a bathtub.
Please.
I can't make bathtub, bathwater.
Do you have a bathtub in your house?
I do, yeah.
Okay, good.
Go start cooking up some bathwater,
make a Chadwick soup.
I'm a doomsday preppers.
I always save my gray water, if you will, so.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, you've got like a sister.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's just too moist at this point.
It's a lot of flavor, though, guys.
I'll mail you an empty Gatorade bottle full.
Thank you for tuning in.
Yeah, is this beef stock?
No, it's not.
It's, yeah.
You're storing all of that, you know,
brown gray water of yours for the apocalypse
for just for when the technology from Waterworld comes.
You'll get sad.
Running through that little hand crank machine
or whatever he's got on his catamaran.
Anywho, tune in next week, keep tuning in.
God, I feel like I should right now,
like live on the air,
actually put something on our Instagram page
because we never post there.
But send us messages there, tell people
that this is our thing
and that it's worth listening to.
Maybe it isn't, but live.
If you want to follow what I'm doing,
I'm the photographer's garage and all the things,
otherwise, you know, at APA podcast.
How about you, Mr. Chad?
Do follow, Frank.
I can't wait to see that Volvo review.
But yeah, if you're going to follow my junk,
well, not really my junk, but my video junk,
well, that's not that either.
It's worse.
I keep saying it worse.
Auto obscure garage, mostly on YouTube
for your rescues, restorations and reviews.
I got to get some more Volvo content up,
rally car Volvo, not $1,000 Volvo.
Close though, $2,000 Volvo.
Check me out there.
But again, like Frank said,
thanks for checking us out here, guys.
We love you.
Thanks for stopping by.
And we'll catch you on the next one,
which is an important one.
Bye.
Be there.
Peace.
We're telling Peace Square.
I don't know.
Goodbye.
About this episode
Dive into a lively conversation about cars that are cool in theory but carry stigmas due to their typical owners or modifications, like the Nissan 350Z, Corvettes, Mopars, and Jeeps. The hosts share personal takes on these stereotypes and their own automotive tastes, touching on topics like classic muscle cars, modern Mopars, and the Jeep community. They also explore a vintage car ad quiz and discuss recent projects including a challenging windshield polish and a new acquisition: a 1989 Volvo 740 Turbo. The episode blends humor, nostalgia, and candid reflections on car culture.
Lotsa different cars are cool no mater what you do, however, there are some cars that are cool, yet the aura of their fanbase kinda tarnishes that significantly. The dudes kick back and discuss what cars fall victim to their fanbases and if it's warranted, or just a bunch of incorrect stereotype mumbo jumbo.