Episode 377 - Pursley Takes The Crown(s)!!

What's going on? Hope y'all had a great week and weekend. We're back with another episode

of the nerds podcast. We're here. We're here. Little rainy. Finally. We're under severe

drought conditions here in Northwest Ohio. And I saw today, Duane, they said we need like three

to three and a half inches of rain here to get out of drought conditions. So luckily,

all the fields and stuff were done growing for the most part for that kicked in. But yeah,

it's been an interesting few, uh, few months here for that side of things. And then, you know,

as we have the word of outlaws coming to Millstream, looks like they'll get some moisture

here ahead of that. So hopefully all goes well. Ton of bonuses for that leading up to that. It's

big, big weekend for sprint car racing. You got what Sharon on Saturday, I think for outlaws for

outlaws. So you sack at Butler for a first time in 35 years. So we got a few things on the horizon

here, but we'll tell you more about some of that upcoming stuff and some announcements.

And we'll also talk about this past weekend. It was a big one down at El Dorre with the

four crown nationals. But before we get too far, we got to talk about our sponsors.

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all kinds of different stuff to try. It's awesome. You just get a poor card. You're charged by the

ounce. So it makes it nice to try some of those goofy beers that you may not be so sure about.

One Dwayne has often talked about is the old zombie dust. It's been known to be on and off the

menu over at the Sure Shot Tap House. But actually, I got a little sample here of

a beer from the same place Zombie Dust is made, three Floyd's, a brewery. This is called Floyd's

Deluxe Lager. Thanks to our listener friend, Steve Park. Yes, any son and all them that they're

drank some of these cold beers with them comes in bottles too. I didn't know that tough. I had

some bottles of it this weekend too in the parking lot. Yeah, so Dwayne was instructed to bring me

some to try. And it's a very good light beer. Yeah, I like it right up there with your, you know,

if you're a Mick Ultra fan or Bud Light fan, something like that, something like this would

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Dust. Dwayne loves. Make sure you buy it and buy him 12 packs of it. No, but thanks, Steve. Yes.

Thanks, Steve for sending. I'm drinking one right now and Dwayne left me a second one as well. So

yes, I miss drinking beer all the time. I really enjoyed it. So I'm good to have. It's good to

have a couple in the old fridge. That's for sure. So but at Sure Shot, you may find something from

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one text. We can request it. Not all that much. But if you're at Sure Shot and you head upstairs,

check out the Bullseye Game Lounge. You got 24 arcade games, four duck pin bowling lanes. Check

them out. It's all self-serve. There's kiosk. You get a card. You load the card and you go have

yourself a ball. Great time. They got venue spaces as we know off seasons coming up. They got a

couple different private rooms, game lounges, a couple of those. So if you want to have birthday

parties, things like that for kids up at the game lounge, all kinds. There's one last weekend too

for one of our racer friends, Brad Winkle, that that's for his girlfriend. That was the surprise

party. It was a surprise party because Thursday night, he's like, Hey, you guys coming? Like,

this is a surprise, isn't it? He goes, Yeah, I said, almost, almost spoiled the surprise. Yes,

I almost did. And he's like, Hey, I couldn't go, but he said it went pretty good. So it's cool.

I know he's got the bourbon and wine done in process. I got a picture of that the other day.

It looks pretty cool. So we'll have some bourbons and whiskey and some wines ready to self-pour as

well. I didn't get to talk to him much besides I took his money and because he's being a friar

bitch and we was making him be busy. It's usually his task. Sure shot. Order pizza. Sure shot tap

house.com is the website. Be sure to check them both out. That's why you ordered pizza. Yeah,

because he don't touch it. Exactly. Yes. When I ordered my breakfast pizza at the world,

the gal gave it to me through the window. I said, Andrew didn't spit on it. She says,

No, we don't let him get that close. Perfect. So yeah, he's making him busy. Good. Good. Well,

we had some racing going on this past weekend. You were there all three nights, weren't you?

I was four crown nationals, 43rd four crown new format expanded program from Thursday to

Saturday now instead of two nights with five divisions now. Yes. Five crown basically because

the GLSS 360s had a single show thrown in there on Friday with 40 cars strong like 10 910 at

least nine, maybe 10 or 11 Canadians came. Oh yeah. I saw Dylan Westbrook was there. Yeah.

Some of those guys, but yeah, Thursday night started off. We had USAC national sprints and

midgets. Yep. I believe complete shows and yeah. So the so the format differences. Okay.

So it's kind of like one of the late model races kind of sorta. So it's almost like Everlap

Matter. So they ran full show, complete show, but your heat raise points and your main points.

You got points and that seeded your heat races for Saturday. So no qualifying whatsoever on

Saturday. Yes. So Thursday night opened up a couple scary accidents a lot, which

took a couple guys out for the rest of the weekend. Yeah. Yeah. There's a ton of scary

accidents getting in. Everybody was the bump and turn one that bump and turn one didn't have

shit to do with it because 95% of them was past the bump and turn one. Yeah. And that bump and turn

one that wasn't as bad as what the King's Royal was. No. Um, you know, it was just guys, I mean,

most of them was way past just running as old school El Dor. I mean, that's right up on the

fence banging on the right rear off the fence. And uh, you know, when there's a three inch cushion,

sometimes guys get in there a little harder and go for a ride. Yeah. I mean, the big accident on

the night was the B main Friday night where that was just an oil slick, literally an oil slick on

the track. I'm not sure. I mean, we all know El Dor is great at catch stuff like that and USAC is

to somehow it slid by. Um, yeah. So one of the cars starting in the front of the B main, uh,

actual blue and oil filter out. Well, come in the pits. I mean, this is before it even started.

Yeah. I'm in the pits and it shows the oil gushing out while they thought it blew up.

Well, then they're like, okay, green next time around. And yeah, you've seen what happened.

Yeah. Max Adams, uh, just turned sideways. Yeah, shotting right in. Corbin Hazlett,

you know, did a complete right turn or else he's going to T bone

max Adams. And that just, uh, yeah, destroyed some cars, uh, flipped some cars, uh, I think five

ended up flipping in that crash. And then why that was going on. They just found out there's like,

oh, it was just a gasket blew out of the oil filter and put a new oil filter on the guy that

oiled the track and came back out. Yeah. Yeah. That was a scary one. Uh, it was.

I saw the price news got into it. He didn't flip, but he, I saw Dustin Ingle, uh, had an

in car on his page I watched and it was just like, I don't know what you, you know, yeah,

obviously Dustin got, yeah, you couldn't do it kind of through it, but, uh, yeah,

he didn't get the worst of it, but he still was done for the night. But it was just like,

yeah, what are you supposed to do? And yeah, cars are just turning left and right in front.

Yeah. And I wasn't anything to do with, uh, a bump. Yeah. Yeah. That was just a crazy,

crazy circumstance. Something you don't see a whole lot. Yeah. So, uh, a feature that night for

the USAC national sprints, Briggs Daner got himself the win first outdoor win. And then we went over

to the midgets. I did not see much from them.

Good race. First time outdoor winner and first time ever USAC midget winner.

Hey, Ryan, well, that's right. I forgot that was his first ever win.

Yeah. Here's a kid that's been, uh, improving, improving a lot. First couple years he raced,

he went through a lot of stuff pretty much admittedly to, you know, but he's gotten better,

gotten better. And, uh, he's been very competitive this year. And, uh,

he just knew he was going to get one soon. He came close a couple of times. I think he's

going to get a sprint car one too, to be honest. Um, so yeah, it was cool to see, you know,

one, uh, Jim and I talked about this earlier today. He says it's such an instant gratification

deal anymore that, you know, a lot of people, oh, if I ain't, you know, but he's stuck through it.

But I think it's the fourth year and, uh, um, starting to pay off. Yeah. His dad was happy.

I can tell you that big Andy, he had him picked up, you know, you see Andy, that's a

gigant tour that's like what, six, seven, six, eight. There's Hayden about five, 10.

Bear hugs, even picks him up. And, uh, it was funny. Hayden's like, uh,

how do you think you're a celebrate? He, they asked him, he goes, well,

dad's probably going to make me drink a beer, even though I don't like beer,

but I'll probably drink one because dad will probably make me drink one.

Yeah. Um, 23, 24 midgets, 21, 21. So I mean, the car count for midgets is always kind of low

because it's a quite the chore to race. 36, 38 new sex prints, 21 midgets. There's almost 40

40 on the dot. Maybe it was. Yeah, it was. Yep. Yep. Yep. Right. It was 40 on the dot.

Sometimes you lose some throughout the preliminaries. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Cause only 30 came back on

Saturday. Yes. Yeah. So they had 40 on Thursday, 21 midgets and only 18 midgets returned on.

Well, I chased stock and he took a bad flip in the midget. Um, and Kale Drake did.

Um, and Chase, he was sore, but he's like, I'm not going to do the midget.

He did come back, but I killed Drake sidelined him for the rest of the week with a concussion

and then, um, Zach Weigel took a nasty one all by himself and, uh, he's out for a little bit

concussion, but I think he's got broken ribs too. And maybe a broken collar bone. Yikes. His

was nasty. He was all by himself and turn this set right before turn two there and just got in

the fence and flipped what probably felt like a week to him. I mean, he probably went over

eight, nine times. Yeah. Um, Friday night, fast forward to three sixties joining the card with who?

High limits. Oh, and it was high limits. Okay. That's right. So then high limits

did like the sprints and midgets and their heat race and a main B main points seeded the

heat races for Saturday. Gotcha. And, uh, three sixties is one and done. That was just there.

Yeah. So Mason Hanigan got in the wall and like hot laps and flipped over and one of

horseman's cars. He was lucky because there's a guy right by him that swerved and he didn't

miss T bone in him by two inches. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, they actually got the car back together.

Um, raced it was in a transfer spot in the B main and, uh, it shut off during the yellow

like just bam. Um, but yeah, Mason Hanigan flipped, but came back out. Yeah. Um, and then

who won? Was it right? So Dyson personally, well, I'm sorry. High limits. Yeah. Dyson

personally won the right. So right. So, so Rico lead lead lead lead lead. And, uh, they had a

restart with two to go and right. So Rico don't get out snookered too much, but right. So didn't

even in his interviews, like I knew if he did this, I was going to do this. And if he did that,

then I was going to do this. I mean, he was just right there waiting and Rico kind of

only half, uh, slid. He didn't go real low or real high to block Rico or to watch. Right. So

he's about three quarters up and right. So just sinker right on the outside of him and

took the lead. And, uh, so yeah, right. So on that, uh, very emotional Aaron writes on Victor

Lane, even, uh, he even says, man, I can't cry in the crowd. Uh, crowd was cheering him.

And, uh, you can tell he's in a lot of pain still on crutches, still broken foot and, uh,

sound, I mean, I want to say he sounds like he's calmed down some, but he sounds like he's more,

he's humbled, maybe a bit more, more appreciative for sure of, uh, of stuff. And, uh, he got pretty

emotional. But, uh, yeah, then Dyson, personally going, only driver running all five and, uh,

everybody is running middle to the bottom. And, uh, Dyson was two, then he started 11th. Then

all of a sudden, uh, he just started zinging it up on about, about halfway. He's just started

zinging it up on the wall. Actually about 10 to go. And I think he's sitting like in seventh or

sixth man. He just got the momentum ripping on the top and, uh, made the pass for lead either

coming to the white. Yeah. I think it's coming to the white flag or right before that, uh,

took lead with about a lap and a half to go and took the 360 win after starting 11,

but he was the only one really right up ripping the fence. Um, speaking of ripping the fence,

Anthony Macri, the one that got hurt. I saw that running second coming. The white flag was already

out by himself. Yeah. And got, and that was in three and four. And as one of those, we got the

fence and the fence stopped him and just threw him back down the track. And then a PPM had nowhere

to go and, uh, hitting PPM swerved, but, uh, I'm an actor. Matter of fact, PPM got a bumper in the

arm. Uh, uh, yes. And, uh, um, so his arm was messed up, but he's like, I'm not going,

because he was standing there. One of those interviewing by Anthony's car and Anthony

still goes, I don't care about my arm. The bumper hit it. It's messed up, but he

were sitting here waiting for Anthony and, uh, they never did say, I mean, Anthony went to

the hospital. It just says he's setting out for a couple of weeks. So I don't, I don't think

anything's broken, but it just sounded like it rang his bell pretty good, which thank God, that's

all it was because I mean, it was as one of those, I mean, he was running second and, uh,

going full tilt and, uh, just got up on the wall. And I mean, it instantly stopped him and just

threw him down on the track and PPM was right there. And like, he just turned sideways enough

thankfully that it didn't drive straight on into. Yeah. It wasn't a direct blow at least.

Yeah. It was sideways blow, which then, you know, kind of hurt, banged up Parker a little bit too,

but, uh, that one could have been a lot worse than what it was too. Yeah. Um, so then going to

Saturday was the big day, like Dwayne said, no qualifying each one. Yeah. 15 grand to win for

four classes, uh, four classes, uh, only two different winners. Yes. No figure. High limit

show was reverse of the night before. Yeah. Uh, right. So lead majority of the laps, I think 22,

23, and Rico got him in traffic. Uh, silence was right there. Silence. At one time when they

just run the bottom silence was battling for a lead on the bottom, Rico on the top and then

yelled come out. And you're like a handle. Right. So he's going to win this thing because

they're never going to get in traffic and then they got traffic and, um, it's kind of crap shoot

but a Rico got him on the high side and, uh, Rico took a very popular win. Oh yeah. Um, then

yeah, one winner, only the third guy to sweep all the usack one. And I'm not sure why they're not

into making a bigger deal of it. I mean, Larson swept all three usack sprints, midget, silver crown,

Logan CV did a couple of years ago, but there's only one guy that's done four jack you up. Granted,

his four was in one night. Yeah. But when you have five deals, five crowns, basically, uh,

Jason won four of the five. Yeah. Um, and they're acting, well, you know, he's the only third guy

to sweep. But what about the four? He won the night for it. That you're counting that as part of

the, because he kept break. Oh, first time ever on the four crown card and the crown for them's

tonight and all that. Well, Jason won it. So he won four of the five in a, in all four that he won

was the same. Uh, I don't know how he ran that consistent. Four different cars and he was three

inches off the fence, all the races. Really? I mean, and you're talking a 50 lap silver crown

race, a 30 lap sprint car race, a 25 lap major race. I mean, he did not, he ran the same groove

all, all those races. Yeah. High limit show thought, well, maybe he could do that. His car

had hit, it dropped like it had a parachute on it on the start. I mean, I think they hit wrong

on the setup because that thing had an anchor big time. Maybe the oil slick was still on the

track or something when he went to start. I don't know. It was bad, but, uh, yeah, great race. I'll

tell you, I think, uh, I thought it was really, very good racing. I mean, uh, Thursday night show,

both those shows were good, even though it was long because there's a lot of crashes.

It was kind of heavy track that night too, wasn't it? Yes, it was, but a lot of, a lot of crashes.

Then, uh, yeah, great race. High limits was a great race. Both nights came down to Rico and

right. So Saturday night is Rico, right. So, um, Sy Lynch, uh, and another guy that came asked and

Targerson came from 21st to fourth Saturday night. He was in the dash on Friday night and

destroyed the car in the day. I mean, D destroyed it. That's right. That was another one I saw.

If he would have not done that, he looked good enough that he could have maybe swept the weekend.

I mean, he was fast. Yeah. I started 17th, finished fourth. So, uh, yeah, it was, um,

you know, there's a lot of good racing. The, the silver count feature, you know, usually it gets

all long drug out. I mean, uh, um, CJ Leary and, and Dyson wasn't two car lengths apart.

The first 30 laps of that feature. Was it, uh, the last feature on the night like normal?

Gotcha. Yeah. They ran a little different. They ran the midget second to last. So they ran

USAC sprints, high limits midgets. Well, I saw, uh, was it, was it Daner's team that

like had to swap motor Saturday night and then they changed the, the running order on them.

It sounded like, oh, we had actually had to go out first. So they, they were able to get it out

and get it changed. But there's a little bit of a surprise it sounded like. Yeah. So, uh,

the sprint car feature is pretty good. Uh, Percy started third, but it was good.

KTJ and Cummins was right there. I actually thought Kyle Cummins was going to beat him.

I mean, they was right there. So that was good race. The midget race was pretty good.

Dyson, the last few laps kind of ran away with it once he broke free, but the silver crown

race. I mean him and CJ Leary had a, I mean, they was going at it. The first 30 laps, they was

right there in Carmen Parago. That's who came 21st, 4th, Carmen Parago race.

Yeah. And good. Did they do a B main for those guys on Friday night? Yes. I was gonna say,

because they had 30, which was stupid. They had ended up having an eight car B main to send

two cars home and then one of the cars couldn't start. So they had a seven car B main to send

one car home. Then they added a provisional after that. They added a provisional on Saturday

because well, the points guys didn't make it in the poor guy that pulled 32 hours from Washington

and his only goal was this. Just, he goes, I don't care if I just run hot laps car wouldn't

start during hot laps. He didn't get to run one competitive lap on Eldora. And I don't know why

they didn't let him hot lap on Saturday. Granted, he wasn't in the show, but it's like, dude,

this pull it guy pulled 32 hours. He was still there and his goal is like, dude, if I make it,

if I can just make one lap at speed at Eldora, I'm going to be the trips worth it. If I make,

you know, the race and it's just gravy, anything on top of that. And his car, he just wouldn't

fire, wouldn't fire, which is crazy because he said he got fired up. I guess they let him do

some laps at Lawrenceburg Thursday night after the race or after one's the night after the high

limits race, I guess. But yeah, I just couldn't get to run at Eldora. And I thought, man,

one, I'm not sure why you're only sent, why you're sending two cars home than one,

but then you add one back as provisional. It's like, dude, let this guy at least go make a few

laps. Don't pay him. He wouldn't give a shit. That's what he said. He goes, I,

but yeah, he was just loaded up something on top hill Saturday for hot laps. I like, man,

at least like roll out for hot laps. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. So how was the crowd?

Um, it was pretty good. I would say Saturday night was bigger than last year. Okay. Thursday was

decent. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't packed by any means. The same thing with Friday.

But Saturday was pretty good. Oh, Friday, you could set like on the bottom row of the cement

about anywhere with a lawn chair with no problems. Yeah. Those reserved and Saturday

there was actually people on the grass part a lot. And I mean, the drain seems pretty,

pretty crowded on Saturday. Yeah. It's been an event Saturday, especially he's been getting

more and more popular. But it's still all those events that I still recommend if you want to

ever go to Eldora and see excellent racing and a bunch of variety of cars, uh, open wheel cars,

no fender cars. Um, that's the one go to you get the whole experience of Armstrong and I was talking

about this is you can start telling his friends that too, because you get the full outdoor experience,

you get, you know, the driver's autographs, the fireworks, the, all the food vendors that are

there for all the big shows, the lemon shakeup stand, you know, souvenir rows, got some trailers,

you know, uh, steak on the stick, pork child. Everybody's there, but it, and it's a decent

crowd, but it's not balls to the wall like your other. Yeah. Like the world or the royal. Yes.

So it's a good, good time to go there and, uh, get the full outdoor experience without the

man for the money. Like you said, you get to see a bunch of different racing too. So, yeah,

that was good. All the race is good. There's a couple people can lean about the dust. But I mean,

it's it's a dirt track. Yeah. I didn't think it was that it wasn't any worse than Kings Royal or

any of them. I mean, yeah. And to me, I mean, that's what made the race and so competitive.

I mean, you had cars coming deep in all the fields doing well. If it was like Thursday hammered

down, you wouldn't have had that. Yeah. And you would have had half the car. I think the

hard charger for Thursday was like six. Yeah. And that's what you said. You'd probably have

half the number of cars finishing the races. Like you did on Thursday. Yeah. Because they

can't take the attrition rate with the, it's hard on a race car to go balls of the wall like that.

So on a half mile, obviously quarter miles different. Well, I thought it was cool that they,

I think it helped the midget a main doing it later. Yeah. Cause then the track was, you know,

slipped off a little more and probably safer for the midget. To be honest. Yeah. That is always

kind of a heart stopper of a race when they start. Only big tractor on it. I mean, all the schedules

quarter mile or smaller. Now it's up for outdoor. Yeah. It's crazy to think that used to be a norm.

Right. Like these midgets there a bunch and have a bunch of them show up and

obviously things have changed so much. It's just, I can't believe they didn't get enough for a full

field though. It's like, even on Saturdays, advertising only 18s come back. So those D2 guys,

I mean, they take 24 show up, tag the tail heat, run some laps and run the naming till you get

lapped. Yeah. You know, I mean, get your start money. Get your start money. I was surprised

a couple of D2 guys and go Saturday like, Hey, why don't we just go down there? Well, actually,

I talked to a Kyle Heipmeier. They talked about it with theirs. Yeah. But he's like, Hey, he goes,

we just, he goes, we got molar in that the next week. And he goes, we just got our engines going

good. And he goes, we didn't really want to risk it. Yeah. But he goes, we really thought about

it. Like, yeah, he goes, well, that's what Swander said. He goes, why didn't Bryce bring his car?

He goes, he could put you in. And then he goes, but you wouldn't have been smarter to pull in

after a lap or two. I don't want to know. Yeah. He would have been dicing it with Dyson for about

quarter of a second. 18th time I got lapped till he's gone. I've been like, what's that?

That guy's passed me once already. Yeah. What's he doing? He passed me like it's right away ago.

Yeah. But yeah, 15 grand to win for four classes on Saturday. That's good racing. And

hats off to Dyson personally. I mean, we've talked about it and talked about it. I mean, here's,

I mean, I don't know who in life don't like that story. You know, here's, it's awesome to see him,

you know, he's been come coming on in the high limit deal to been running a lot better. Seems

like they're finding their groove in that a little bit, except for Saturdays, they mean.

But it's cool to see good things happen to people that put the time in and, you know,

at one time didn't even know if there's going to be in the sport anymore. Yeah, hard work and effort

and faith made him come back. I was thinking, you know, and I don't know if it's the right thought

or statement, but like, look at kind of again, kind of it's putting the cart before the horse,

not knowing much behind the scenes, but kind of like, look at what you sex missing out on. Oh,

yeah. There's some things they're doing. 100% not favorable to some, I guess. Obviously, Dyson

was one of those guys like how many others now? That have went to the wing bait. Brady, Brady,

KTJ tried. Yeah. But like all these guys who developed their skills there and, you know,

have moved on and gone wing racing and like Brady Bacon said, that's where the money's at.

Right. And that's, you know, that was two years ago and obviously now this year.

If you don't run in the top three of USAC in sprints, then you're not in midges, it's worse

yet. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, and I'll say it all day long, we said it before, non-wing

spring car racing is probably the second best former racing, in my opinion, second to late

models, obviously. But side by side racing and the show they put on is great. And you got your

superstar, I mean, Logan CV, he's still a non-wing guy, but he's been toying with wing stuff. And

it's like, man, you got to do something to keep those guys around. Grant won the Silver

Town title. I saw that. He still, he got the one crash on Saturday night he was in that had

to hurt. I don't care. Yeah. He hit, who now was it?

I don't know who it was, but he hit him and he, he was spinning and it's like, damn. Yeah. That

had to hurt. Yeah. I don't know what they got to do on the wing non-wing side. I imagine a lot of

it's related to purse money and such, but yeah. Oh, and I had a really, really good talk Thursday

night with Robert Belu. Good. Seriously. It was, it was funny because Melissa was there and she's

like, I get it. I get it now. Why? She was, you guys are like one in the same. She was like, I

would say something and she was, that's exactly what do I say? Cause he would go out of it while

he was talking. I said, Oh, I thought kind of like maybe you'd have somebody in your car this week.

And he goes, well, he goes, nobody's ass. And he goes, I'm not hiring just anybody to be a pussy

to drive it. He goes, that's why I kept telling Clinton. He goes, Clinton, he goes, I told him,

he goes, well, Clinton's like, I don't want to wreck it. He goes while he's cooking. He goes,

I tear the shit out of this thing. I didn't hire you to drive like a pussy. I drove you

to, I don't care if you destroy, if you destroy the car, run up front. I'm not going to complain.

Not one bit, but if you destroy it and fighting for last being a pussy, then I'm going to be

pissed and you're never going to drive it again. And she goes, that's exactly what Dwayne was saying.

And it was so funny because K.L. Drake got fired from the Bennett car on Wednesday and

blew off course, you know, having K.L. Drake, don't get along. And blue's like, dude, he goes,

as much as I don't like how that kid drives on the racetrack, which Chase Stockin don't right

now either, because that's who drove through him in the midget. I mean, I don't know what

that was. It was not good. But anyways, um, he's like, as much as I liked, don't like that. How

he goes, he goes at least follow to put him in his car in my car. I know he'd be driving over his

head and he's when he takes, when he drives through you and takes you, crashes your shit,

at least he's trying the best he can, you know, at least he's going to be trying to race up front.

He goes, he's probably going to crash the shit and tear somebody else up too. But I would have

put him in it if he would ask me, because he says, I know he's on the throttle all the time.

You know, and he goes, if you're not driving on the throttle all the time, he goes, you shouldn't

be in one of these things. We're good. But no, we had a really good talk. He was talking about,

you know, he's not working. He's not any income right now. And we talked a little bit about that.

So he is working his own t-shirt trailer and selling a bunch of them. And he says, he ain't

done yet. He goes, I ain't done. He hasn't said harassing everybody yet. He goes, I'll be back.

I bet. But, uh, but it's cool is, uh, we just had a really, really good talk. I mean, he

sat there at hell. We talked by for half hour. Nice. And so, you know, he's going to be on our

competitive web, our competitive podcast this week, since we won't have anyone. Okay. He's

going to be on the hammer down report. Cool. I think this week. Good. Swander sent it up with

him to write on, get on one of them. Yeah. We do so many interviews in this podcast. So

I know one day I might do one again. Who knows? Yeah, but it was cool. He, we had a really good

talk. He was very thankful for people. It's, he goes, you know, buy a t-shirt. So he goes,

this is what I got right now. You know, and yeah, I saw like he announced he was done or

whatever, but I thought like he still had something driving for him. I didn't realize

I was parking the whole team. And he was, he says, I probably would have, if some, you know,

but he says it ain't going to be, says, yeah, it's not like a project driver, right? No,

it's going to be somebody that's going to be on the gas. He goes, if they crash, he goes,

that's part of the sport. He goes, he goes, I, he goes, me of all people cannot bitch if somebody

tries and sucks my shit. Cause he says they can't don't junk it up any more than I ever have. Yeah.

He goes, and I told him, he goes, I can go to Clinton like, dude, you cannot drunk it any

worse than I ever have in my life. He goes, you do, you do. Yeah. Well, good. That's part of it.

Yeah. Speaking of, you mentioned high limits. They race Wednesday night over at Lawrenceburg

Speedway with a very low car count. Yeah. Rico started first and finished first. So he's been

on hot streak. Yeah. Leading the title. Now him and rights are fighting for the championship.

Yes. And the midweek points. Rico is leading by six over Tanner Thorson, actually, who a second

go figure. Because Tanner had a bad night at Lawrenceburg. Tanner was leading that going

into Lawrenceburg. Gotcha. So yeah, they sit actually looks like as of 9 20, they got a

sweet a second in points. Now it's driver. Yes. It's going to be different. Yes. The owner points

and the driver point is different. Yeah. This rights will set out a couple races. So let me see

where that stands. I think 87 because I saw one read out, but it was for the Lawrence as of

Lawrenceburg. So it's obviously changed. Well, rights will still second or the 87 I think still

second owner standings. Here we go. Yeah, original sons is second by 28. Yeah. And Casey Kane racing

Brad sweet 72 and third. So those are your top three is really close. Yes, it is. I got some more

races yet. Yeah. And then your midweek series, 12 points separate the top four. So yeah, a lot

of a lot more stuff coming to the wire for these guys. Yes. They go Bridgeport this weekend and

Path Valley and then October they go to Lakeside and I'm sorry, where's the rest of the schedule?

I can't I don't even know Texas. I said they finish in Texas, right? Yep. Yeah, weekend of the dirt

right back to Lucas oil Speedway Wednesday, October 15 and then finish at Texas. Yeah,

Lucas oil is the last midweek one that weekend. So yeah, their season will be over before you know

it. Yes, some down to the wire local race and that happened over the weekend Fremont Speedway

crowned their 410 sprint car champion. Cap Henry finishing second in the feature, I believe

to Caleb Henry, but also but got the track championship and he got the AFCS already and

got Attica's already did the triple. So he got all three. So that's a good payday for him.

The Strip you win Strip we won the 305 Jamie Miller won the title. Yes.

What Lenny and plenty. Yes, plenty won the trucks and run the truck title and Wayne County

race. They had their high dirt blowout. Yeah. Henry Malkiewicz won the sprint cars and Ryan

Markham won the late model portions of that but when motor speedway in action with sprint cars

which their season championship was on the line, which Jason Blond and I was gonna say Chad Blond.

Yeah, Jason Blond and Josh Turner are only like 14 points apart and Turner had a very,

very bad race and Jason Blond one. So Jason Blond scored a track title. Yes.

That I don't know that might be his first track title there because he's done a lot of payment

racing. Say I don't. Yeah, he just started the dirt stuff again because I don't get it once upon

a time. I mean he might have won one years and years and years or two but yeah and modified.

I know Corey Vibard won the track championship. Gotcha. Like Matthew Baker or someone on the

race but another guy used to be a sprint car driver but you know talk about backstories that

actually had a massive heart attack while racing up Butler. So my friend from the Grand

Sands got the defibrillator out of that and this is back the old Butler. Yeah. The ambulance one

move one start and they didn't really have a safety crew and she ran down and got the defibrillator

and saved his life but that ended his sprint car career but he came back I don't know five or six

years after that and started modifies and I believe it's his first track title in the modifies.

Yeah. I think he might have won. I know Robbie Henderson's won a couple won. Vibard may have

had some track titles before that but he's back winning track titles. Yeah.

Montpelier Speedway was in action. Had super late models on the card. Our buddy Devon

actually made the trip. Pretty decent field I thought. Twenty three late models. They had

110 cars total over four divisions. So good for Ryan. Some good late models. Yes. But

Tristan Chamberlain. Word of Outlaw competitor actually got the win and our buddy Devon finished

second. So good. Good race there. Take a nap in the pits. I don't know. Dylan Woodling got the win

in the modifies. But yeah I said I think like the first feature or something was done by 930. So

they ran a pretty good efficient program that a ton of mods because it was the rain. Terry Hall

Memorial. Yep. Who else I had another probably local event on here. Oh so my local atomic had

the Iron Man late model series where Colton Burdett got himself the win. He is chasing Rusty

Shlink in a points battle for that series. Unfortunately for him Rusty finished second.

So he wasn't really able to. He's had a couple bad weekends. I know what the Iron Man stuff

Colton Burdett has. So he's been trying to play catch up and you know get past Rusty but Rusty

had a good night as well. So he still holds the point lead and I think they only have a handful

of races left. Yeah. Any other local stuff. Oh yeah I didn't even see who won. Logan Nickerson.

Okay. I'm like 2 30. I was going to say I know it was a late program and kind of a mess it sounds

like but our buddy Devin was up there. I think they got home like 5 30 in the morning or something

he said. It was like 39 late models. So I think 38 was there a bunch. Yes there's a bunch. Usually

there is for that race. But it sounds like there as we talk this kind of a drought situation but

a port on Thursday when I wasn't supposed to. So the track was kind of rough and choppy and

sounds like they flipped some cars and sounded like a mess. But I know I think the

late model a main took the green like at 1 32 or something in the morning. Yikes. Yeah. I'm glad

I didn't go. Yeah. I planned on El Dora all three days. But like you know if I skipped the night

but Friday night would be the one go up Mount Pleasant says I've never been there and thank

God I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't see who won. So. Yep. Logan Nickerson. Yeah. I think it was like

four grand to win. So that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. They were wrecking some shit.

Just by looking at pictures. Second. Gotcha. And he went on to win the pavement race on Saturday

night. Also I saw. So yeah. All right. See other local stuff. I don't think there.

Yeah. I mean the other big race on the weekend was the Knoxville Nationals late models.

Yep. Knoxville Iowa which somebody went from a zero on the first night to hero on the last

night. It was heavy hammer down fast Thursday night which for late models of Knoxville is not

the best thing. Well it's because there was weather. Yeah. All around they actually moved the

times to try to beat all the weather. I saw like when they pulled haulers in it was kind of a mud

mess and really wet and circumstance of dirt racing at times. But yeah fast tracks not always great

for late models and Hudson O'Neill and Tyler Bruning would agree maybe. Both first and the

other one. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of attrition filled race. How he says first time ever he flipped in

a late model. Yeah. And the Hudson's was destroyed not his fault. Dalton Wilson which again it's

hard to blame Dalton Wilson too. It looks like he just pushed going in the corner and also they said

made contact with Hudson and Hudson went for a ride and yeah that car was all bent up and yeah

how many different ways it needs a front clip or rear clip about probably every I don't even know

if you can cut both clips off and pre clip them. Yeah. I mean I was looking at the pictures of it

when they were unloading it off the wrecker and you just see the ass end of bumpers just

turned about 45 degrees. At least the driver's department stayed in one piece and that's all

matters. Yeah. It was it was a wild one. But Thursday night the Devon Moran got the win.

So that was I'm trying to see how many cars finished but it was yeah it was a bit of a

attrition filled race. They had 40 cars show up 75,000 to win on Saturday.

They've been trying to make efforts to get more cars to show up.

You know then they had the Malvern Bank series with them as well. Friday night.

Uh who won? Tell me. Uh sorry. Alberson. Alberson won. Alberson won Thursday night.

I'm sorry. Devon won Friday. I had my day screwed up here. Yeah. Alberson won.

Alberson won on Thursday and you're like oh no like okay. Sorry. I wasn't scrolled down

far enough for dates my bad. Yeah. But uh yeah well Thursday night was the one where rain started.

Yeah. 17 starters completed because they only went to 19 laps once the rain came which

smart move like we're not going to try to finish this. We're past we can make it a finished race.

Let's just do that and kind of take our losses. Alberson won that than Devon and then from 17th.

Yes. On the bottom. Pretty wild. That's an O'Neill. Yeah. So he went from like you said

zero to hero. And he probably didn't break even winning 75,000 dollars. Yeah. Yeah. He maybe paid

for one wrecked race car. Maybe. Um I was looking here. I know how comes Melvin Banks. I think

one of the Simpsons. Chad Simpson. Yeah. One of the Simpsons. I knew Auden Bart. There it is.

Not Bart. No. Auden Bart. Not Homer. Well you wasn't out there so no. You kind of look like Homer.

But Jonathan Devonport finished 18th and we all know Knoxville. Not his favorite track.

RTJ kept the point lead with Devon Moran and Hudson O'Neill tied it for third now

and Brandon Shepard now into fifth. And I think we already went down to we already go down to the

final four. I don't think so. Not yet. Okay. It's usually after Knoxville. Yeah. They changed it

though because Knoxville was such a pain in the ass. Right. Well maybe they are down to the final

foot. Yeah. Because they did something that's more than one race now. It's four races five.

Yeah. Because I know the Pittsburghers coming up and I honestly can't. I don't keep track of their

stuff very well. I don't know if they keep changing the shit. Yeah. So I didn't think

they was down to the final four but shit they might be. Knoxville finale marks the cutoff.

That's what I thought. Okay. You're right. Yep. That's right. It was the final four.

Can you say that again? I was right about late model stuff. Can you say that again?

So we got to record that. We're the top four drivers and serious standings have a playoff style

chase over the final five events. Wonder. Well I mean top four would be Hudson Devon

Javinport and RTJ. So basically the same ones as Ben. Yeah. Well B ship is fifth because Hudson

and Devon are tied for third for third but you're only going to take four cars. Right. That makes

sense. But yeah the next five races will be the you know. That's the same the last three years now

right. Two years I believe. Okay. The first year it was just El Dora was the finale. Right.

But I mean the same guys. Oh probably. No yeah. Overton didn't do it last year I think. No.

He was just shy of me. Yeah. I think it was the same four guys last three years.

Wouldn't doubt it. Yeah because this weekend you got Brownstown. Yeah. Two nights. That's

Jackson 100. Yep. Then you go to Pittsburgh next weekend. Yep. Then El Dora. Then El Dora.

Yeah. So other action going on. We talked about Maxfield. Word of outlaws were out West.

Yes. Eighty three thousand to win. Yes. The old. Because the first night got ringed out.

Oh I'm sorry. Dennis Roth classic. Yes. Where David Gravel inches out. Spenser based it for

eighty three thousand dollars. Photo finish. Photo finish. Yes it was. I'd like to know where

a start finish line is. That's odd. Yeah. Because Basin looked like he had it for

three quarters of that. So I don't know. The finish line must be like right past the grand

or flag stand or right past the center of the grand stand or a flag stand. I don't know.

I don't know. That's one of those. It's always nice to know where a start finish line is like

we said to have an orange stripe or something on the fence. Yeah. Everybody knows. I'll give

mill stream credit. They have an orange cone at theirs because theirs is not the flag stand. It's

actually before the flag stand. So that's something people have to watch for the outlaw race this

week at middle stream is there's an orange cone in the middle of front stretch. That is the start

finish line. The flag stand is more towards turn one. Yeah. I remember it was the USAC

sprint car race that Brian Holbert consistent when he stated just so you know the finish line

is like 10 15 feet before the for the flag stand. Yes. Yes. Always. It's always nice to know where

it's at. And I'm saying that they did anything wrong. You know I didn't say gravel didn't win.

I was saying it'd be nice to know where it's at because situation like that I mean

it looked like Basin was have eighty three thousand dollars. Yeah. Nice trophy too. It's

cool trophy. I'm just going through here looking at and I would not as funny. We all all would have

lost money. Well and our little sent them to parking lot drinking beer because they're like

oh gravel never went in California. Not only did he win he won the biggest race they have

actually 83 83 K. Yeah. Start twenty eight cars in that race. So man it's a

lot of cars and a little trek. A lot of provisionals. Yes. Emerson Axham went 14 places.

Chris Windham 18 places. Yeah. He said he had a good run. Start twenty seven finished ninth. Wow.

Yeah. So they didn't have provisionals. He would have been on the trailer. Yeah. Let's say Bay log

also was one that need provisional. He got nine spots. So yeah. Otherwise Jackson Nationals happened

kind of us honestly under the radar. I didn't even know. I didn't either. Only thing I seen is

awesome. Carl thought he had it on until the middle of the back stretch last lap when the

left rear went out and he tried limping around and Ryan Tim's passed him in the fourth corner.

Yeah. And took the win. I don't even know how much paid. Well I was going to say that was always a

word of outlaw race. Wasn't it. Well they still have. I don't know. Twelve thousand to win.

Bumper to bumper IRA series race. IRA race. They have a lot of cars there though. Yeah.

Like thirty seven or so. Yeah. Because you had the Jesse Hockett race going on too. Yes.

Which featured four 10s. Yes. Which had like Sean Ray Hall was there from our area.

And some people you know took had some different people over there. And they had a

non-wing cars. That was how the whole thing started was non-wing and a and a CS. Yeah. And

it's changed a little bit. It looks like. But yes. I'm trying to find results on that.

Do you see who won. I did. But I forget.

I really do. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Lee won this finale on Saturday night from the non-wing

and Ryan Newton from Australia. Yes. On the four 10s. That's right. That was a Saturday

Friday night. Yeah. Lee I think was second or third. And then

Clinton Boyle. Yes. And Chrysler. Riley Chrysler won. The second night because the first night

ended up getting rained out. Ranged out. Correct. But yeah. Yes. So yeah we don't do

A. S. C. S. races for those anymore. Huh. No. Which is wild because they had a

they had a shit load of 360s that would show up. Yes. But I mean A. S. C. S. has changed

hands now and all that fun stuff. So yeah. I don't know. I don't know the full story.

Yeah. I don't know the dynamic of what why or who but yeah. Still got non-wing cars and

now the four 10 wings. Yeah. Through power is power. All right. Yep.

I'm just looking to see how many we had. But yeah. Riley Chrysler J. J. Yalee was there.

Obviously got the win. You know a lot of the Midwest you know

Illinois and Missouri guys. Yeah. So you know Brad Wyatt Wyatt Birks

all kinds of different Ricky Lewis was there. Landon Simon was there kind of from our area a

little bit. Yeah. I've seen Lewis there. Yeah. Landon Simon don't race a whole lot anymore

but he races that race every year. I think I saw a video where someone

expressed some displeasure with him at that one. That wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah. I think he surprised me. I think he sent someone spinning and then

caution they came and spun him or something on the back stretch. I think I saw he's

just flipping somebody off. Yeah. He's usually a little pisser little aggressive at times.

Pisser. Back here. Pisser. Famous thing he was involved with at one time. He had 37 wing cars

four 10s and 20 or 31 non-wing. So a good car count. Yeah. Scott Boguski was there. He used to

get like almost 53 60s though. You're right. Big freaking race for them. So landing Crawley. You

know that some. Yeah. A lot of some guys. A lot of big decent size spring car races going on. Yes.

Different regions of the country. So good to see they all had strong car counts. Yes. Any other

results to discuss. We just got news which there's been a few things going on. Correct.

As far as news goes. I can't think of anything else. Okay.

Not off the top of my head. So the big news announced this past week.

I think it was like Wednesday of last week is maybe announced that Tony Stewart racing

announced their new driver for next year. Yes. Rico Abreu signing up with Tony Stewart

going to run high limits it sounds like. Kind of. It's more of a team. Two teams combining

into one than it is. Rico Quittnall has stuff and going to the 14 which the announcement makes

it sound like it's a one for one swap. But it's really not. No. It's more merger in teams.

Yeah. Ricky Warner back working for TSR. I know they're using Tony Stewart's shop.

I think his haul or maybe somebody's coming but the Rico's team staying intact. So Rico I mean

they're just. Probably some sponsors from Tony Stewart's people. Yes. They're just basically

merging one. So one car is going to disappear. I know everybody's like oh Tony Stewart racing

ain't shutting down. Well it's not but then 24 is. Yeah. You know so

I mean it's cool and I get it. It's going to cost them both less money

which I get but essentially as far as better for the sport it's not because now you have

one team that's been touring forever. Now you're down to one instead of two.

You know so you're taking a car off of a national tour. Yeah. Yeah. I mean obviously Rico's

set up for the high limit stuff and that makes all the sense. Well yeah it says they're

so Tony Stewart racing is leasing that charter. Hmm. That's what it says. Nice. Which

does. Rico can lease it or whatever it's still racing for Rico but they're yeah my guess is

why they're using Tony Stewart name and why it is say Rico Stewart whatever as my guess is because

Tony Pry has some more corporate sponsors still. I mean that team's always had corporate

sponsors so yeah I'm guessing it's all thrown in like yeah you know you're on the drag cars

you're on the sprint car you're on all the shit right. So I'm assuming that's why they're doing

it the way they are. Then Tony don't have to hire a crew. Yeah. Don't have to hire this because

Rico's crew is basically basically you're putting Tony Stewart's name. They already got shirts made

so this has been in. They're already down I mean and they're literally down the road from each

other as it is because Rico works out of Coonson's shop in Minneapolis most of the time. Yeah so

everything's gonna be worked out of Tony's shop and I and the other part of the rumor is Tony

shops close to Speedway Motors in Indy which Jimmy Light and somebody has ownership in and hot rumor

is that Jimmy Light's partner or whoever is one or I don't know exactly anything who owns it but I

heard Jimmy Light was part of it and that Rico may be getting in the part of Speedway Motors

supposedly. And that's the engine shop. Yes. That makes sprint car motors and such. So what should

make sense which I think I know Tony Stewart Racing was a huge Kistler user so I don't know if they

still are. Well when we went to the Ford stuff didn't it all change. Yes so maybe that's part of the

deal too is if Rico does get part of Speedway Motors. Did you see. I didn't watch it. I meant to.

Apologize. I forgot to their talk with Dale Jr. Did you see that. I did not. Okay. I didn't

watch it either. I know I did not. I mean I just seen quotes that he announced it a couple hours

before the press deal like hey join us as Tony Stewart reglaver like oh we wonder what the big

announcement is. Yeah. Well I saw you know Stewart is again it's a quote it could be taken

out of context so but about the Donny said no they said I had many people ask me they said

there's three or four times that Stewart's talking pretty crappy of yeah shots says you know they let

him run the team and then like directions going you see where that got us. I mean the only one

ten were a lot. Well I mean it's funny because when he asked Donny Donny's like well I wanted to run

the package he came in there with where they dominated everything and then over the last four

or five years when it all switched right right we saw Donny's dominance kind of fall off so

yeah I don't know. I just saw some of that and yeah again don't know if I saw it.

No he was shit talking shots quite a bit. It's a little bit. Yeah and I saw you know which makes

sense for picking Rico he said you know he didn't want a project which makes sense you know

want someone who can jump in and be successful so yeah I can appreciate that for sure. Yeah so it'll

be it'll be interesting. I don't think anything's going to change. I mean Rico's the one of the

best sprint car drivers in the country and one of the best teams right now. I mean they're leading

to high limits. He's one I mean I think he's won 12 high limit shows but he's got well I think

he's got 17-18 wins total now so yeah and on the second part of that do you see Donny now's in

Jason Sides for the rest of the year. Yes two car team which I've always kind of heard maybe

that's where he'll go next year and I think I was a dude in the light of fire. I mean they can

shit talk Donny all he wants and everybody's like oh he's dried up he's you know not what he used to

be. I don't know I think he's got some runs in it. I think yeah I think him and Jason Sides together

could be interesting. I do too. I think because I've found a lot of people all Jason Sides his

equipment ain't that good and shit. I wouldn't say that. Yeah I wouldn't say that either. No offense

to Jason or other drivers he's had. I don't know if he's had the top driver. Like I said

there have been projects. Yeah. I mean like Tony Stewart per news project. Chris Wyndham

was a non-wing driver. He brings Noss money with him. Yes and no offense but he's really not that

good of a wing driver. Yeah he's still learning. Lane and Crawley before him. Yeah which Lane is

good but he's young. Still learning. Yeah and what's the Lane and Crawley did without since he's

been out of that car. Not much. And then you know Jason had a reputation for having fun maybe more

so than worried about racing not to say he was a talentless. He got big wins. He's got some wins.

But yeah it'd be interesting to see someone who's you know has got the skills behind the

wheel in that team. We know Donnie and Jason work well together. So yeah one of Donnie's best runs

this year is at Attica after Jason helped set the car up. So yeah I was going to say that's kind of

going my thought is you know Jason came down to Donnie's pit at Attica and turned the wrenches

on it before the feature and Donnie you know finished well on the podium or something from

close. I think he's fourth. I think he might have been 20.

But yeah I mean so be interesting. Yeah and then we hear Sheldon to the 18.

Yeah Sheldon to the 18 because possibly this is rumor by the way. Nothing announced just

that's bullshit. Nothing announced. But from my unconfirmed sources

the fight kind of with the 17 car came over engines. They wanted to switch Sheldon Ripper

won the switch and Stan House like and Marshall's like no we've already switched engine packets

a couple of times. We're sticking with this one and Ripper and Sheldon's like no we need these

Morrison ones. Well Morrison's 20 minutes from Ripper's house and he's been friends with him

in the 18 car runs Morrison engines. Yeah so from everything I've been told from some really really

good sources more than one source when they all say the same thing that Sheldon will be in the

18 car with Morrison engines based right there. You know and I think it might be I don't know if

Ripper wants to be on the road full time which he could be a shop guy and still be on the road

a lot being based out of Iowa. Yeah I mean so we'll see but that's that rumor and then the

7 BC the rumor is because everybody's like well where's Geo going. Supposedly it's going to be a

new team kind of off 7 BC because you know Spires is a sponsor of so but I suppose this

is going to be more of a Spire more ownership but Kloss or Kloss and Marshall still on it because

you know there's Kloss and Marshall and Spires like a sponsor. Well I suppose this is going to be

a Spires Kloss and Marshall car based in North Carolina with Brad Sweets old crew chief heading

up the operation. Eric Brotsman right. Yes so that's the hot rumor on that. Gotcha. So we'll see

how close we are when this stuff goes down. Yeah and Donnie I mean he's in Sides for the rest of

the year. Is it a precursor to what's happening next year. I know he's got all kinds of offers.

Hopefully I mean from what I've seen Donnie's changed a lot. He's went back to the kind of the

old Donnie and I think driving for Sides could help him. Not so much pressure.

I mean and have some fun. Still race. Yeah I think I think Sides is one of those guys like you get

I think Donnie driving for him will get him excited. Oh I think so and ultra competitive.

I can see those guys being a terror to people if they start having success like those guys seem

Yeah so we'll see if that carries on to next year. I mean right now it's just this year but

I would not be surprised if that's where you see Donnie shots for next year. And the other one

kind of out there which I haven't seen or heard much about and maybe the Geo ride is something to

do with that the Stenhouse Marshall ride. Well when the sunshine comes back I mean he'll be in it.

Well Stenhouse that's Shelton's all right. Shelton's all right yeah 17 yeah I don't know.

I haven't heard much on that one. Spencer Mason maybe.

Emerson Akson I know Emerson Akson's been

with Marshall's. Thrown around a little bit. He's been with Clausen before.

Yes I know his name's been thrown around a little bit. Don't know. I mean yeah and then there was

we heard rumor once upon a time is big game going to two cars. Yes I'm not real sure where that may

or may not lie. You know that's been a rumor for a couple of years because those old Shelton's

going and now Donnie's going. I mean obviously they put a car together for Donnie for her well

it ended up only being a lot of race or a race and a half or something. Oh it was even a race.

Yeah like three laps or a heat race. Yeah so

Willie maybe. Yeah I don't see that team wanting to do two cars unless they're something I'm missing

but the success they have with the team they got like second car can add quite a bit of

craziness to a team. So yeah well and you know this

sounds you know this case it came just keep one car as you come back with two. Yeah you know

there's a lot of what ifs going on right now. Gotcha. Yeah we we will see like we said.

About eight models. I have not seen or heard much. We know Marlar's out at

Skyline but Skyline's supposed to help sponsor him when he's back with Dull.

That's I don't hear much. I mean Joshua's just coming back to Pittsburgh. But yeah you know

is he going to have an expanded row next year. Yeah from the sons of it he doesn't want a national

right. Yeah I don't think he had run a national deal but as he I think he'd have to race a season of

hitting mist to get back in the swing of things. Yeah but yeah I know there's been rumors of his

Overton and the Riggs deal still going to be a thing because that Riggs deal seems to have a curse

over it or something even though it's a Longhouse Longhorn house car. A Longhouse. Longhouse you

know McCready was in that car and won what championship or two when it was Paylor owned. Now

it's Riggs owned B. Shep went you know didn't work out there now with Overton. Are they testing.

You know there's all kinds of questions maybe why is the success isn't there. Testing testing

we know Hudson's probably not going anywhere. We know RTJ is probably not going anywhere.

Davenport unless he decides you know probably nothing changing there. No I don't think so.

One thing I could see changing with Davenport is maybe not doing Lucas oil points racing

which he's done in the past you know and he's come back last couple of years. Right. So yeah

we'll see but you know it's crazy with late miles. Excuse me. It's crazy late miles because

so many teams are owned by the driver's family and what not. So you know you think Bobby Pierce

is right. Yeah exactly right. So it's kind of like one of those. It's not Sprint cars where

there's so many higher drivers necessarily. But yeah I haven't heard anything earth shattering

confirmed or anything. Just a few few rumors here and there. Yeah other news I got. We got was

just announced today hits close to home. We're going to try it again. We'll see how it goes.

Mansfield Speedway bringing a national touring late model series word of outlaws huge way.

Yes May 29th and 30th of 2026 with two hundred ninety three thousand dollars in purse money.

Twelve thousand to win prelim night fifty seven thousand to win finale with a fifty seven hundred

dollar start money or fifty seven lap race. Yes very possible. In the first night's a thousand

to start. So if you make both amines you're sixty seven hundred bucks. Yeah. So for a lot of local

guys and regional guys that's pretty good. One here we go. It reminds me. I think they're using

their head. I mean we have no clue what tracks going to be like. Yeah hopefully in better track

conditions than the other one. I mean once the weather cooperated it was OK. I mean Cody made

strides there but still it was never excellent. But they're using their head because OK this is

one Lucas oil is traditionally off this weekend and two it's the weekend before the dream. So

Castro or not. I keep saying Castro flow racing night flow racing night on Wednesday at Aldora

than the dream Thursday Friday and Saturday. So you got a couple of days off. So it reminds me

of what they did with Kings Royale week this year after the rainouts you know where it was high

limit than the Dodi and then I mean in if Attica was ever going to get a flow night in America

race like the rumor has been that flow has been wanting to that Wednesday night before the 27th

or even that Thursday night depending on where Lucas oil is but Lucas oil has traditionally

been off those couple of weeks would be a perfect time. I guess as if they don't win county or

somebody will. Yeah. I mean it's huge opportunity. Yeah I don't I don't disagree. You have a lot of

cars in the area that way. I mean we you know 87 years ago we lost money on my bigger light

mile race there so we can't change anything but yeah you know because like my fans are

there ain't any compared to us 20 years ago. Yeah. Only lost popularity doing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you

haven't sold out Aldora or any places like that. Yeah. I mean yeah you know Wayne County is there

too or you know hey it's not that far sharing if you want to get brave I know exactly have the

outlaws that come every year. I think hopefully on Ohio track we'll get a flow night in America

race on that Wednesday before because most say the big Lucas oil teams for instance they'll be at

the show me right weekend before the Memorial Day weekend like always. Yeah then they're usually

off to after the dream. Yes they race Saturday is their finale so they don't you know yes Sunday

easily have a Wednesday before yeah man it's because I'm assuming a lot of those teams will

probably come to Mansfield for $57,000 to win when Eldora is a couple days later. Yeah. Be my

guess. It'd be interesting. I mean some will some you know like guys like RTJ yeah B-Shep probably

those guys that race a hundred times a year for sure. Yeah. You know someone like Davenport maybe

not they just get their ducks in a row for the dream you know they're big Eldora people but

hey. Well I think it might draw some PA guys Western PA guys I mean you know. Yeah. Yeah I mean

hey it's not it's nothing to sniff central. I mean the World 100 I think paid six grand to start this

year so you're paying $57,000 sorry I mean that's huge. You get Greg Sarri can you get a Ziggler.

Yeah Eckert I don't think Eckert would come anymore but maybe Chubb Frank. Yeah he's been

traveling all the more. Yeah. Obviously you get Chubb and T-Mac. Maybe some of those guys like

you know some of those little door guys that race like Sharon and yeah get a Ryan Montgomery

or Carpenters maybe you never know. Yeah there's a lot of potential there. Matt Tiff seems I'll

give him this. He's very good at promoting and keeping the talk. Yes. You know he's good with

the social media stuff. He's going in deep. Yeah he's and they got the first race there the first

weekend in May so. Yeah it's just fast and what late models. Yeah five grand to win. Yeah

be interesting because I hear a rumor that there's seven fast sprint car shows there next year and

Jesus. That's a rumor. Yeah. That's just a rumor. Nothing confirmed but that's what I hear

through the grapevine. Then you have this so it's like how many races are they going to have.

Yeah. What races are they going to butt up against. Yeah a little overlap going on there. I mean

hopefully Tiff does it right or he's not overlapping something at Wayne County. Yeah

or some I mean not only for Wayne County but for him too because you split fields 20 miles apart

30 miles. Well you schedule a Saturday night sprint car race you're going to go against

Fremont Wayne County and Sharon possibly so you're really going to do what else. We're

traveling series you know. Yeah you can really dilute your car counts by doing something like

so hopefully hopefully I mean you know that's one thing I like what Cody did is he worked with

other tracks and he had less shows but you know so and like I said it's just peer rumor maybe

you don't have some fast shows but that's I mean what I've heard for instance you know

Fremont takes a fair break and it could take a fair break like okay maybe you got something there

right to try out but but yeah I mean yeah I'll say the 410 car counts on Thursday or on Saturday

nights is pretty diluted right now at times there's you know sometimes five it's five yeah

atomic and this new southern whatever and you know Hile Valley sprint car association ain't

gonna be smart enough to go away. Yeah I already know this they're booking dates for 26 they've

talked about some and the whole idea of this new Gladiator deals trying to get rid of them

so then you're gonna have Gladiator and Ohio Valley so you know there's some nights we've had

five tracks racing 410s in Ohio on a Saturday night with Butler not that far away racing 410s and

then if you add another one in the mix I mean you're throwing all-star race in western PA or

Indiana or something yeah if you have Mansfield running you know on one of those I mean hopefully

yeah hopefully somebody's looking at that yeah especially with with Matt I hope he's got the

right people around him especially what I'm just thinking is okay say if this rumor is true you got

seven fast shows we don't know all the other schedules by any means yeah it's like those are

going to overlap something yes 100% because they don't care to begin with they like to run Wayne

County when cars are at Fremont or yeah you know they aimed us to start shit more or less yeah

you know they're you know run middle stream when failure freemont's racing or you know something

so I just hopefully yeah that's when Matt running it he comes from pavement I know he's in

dirt late models now on and off and fine but yeah you need someone that looks at the whole picture

of the racing scene to kind of get it all not to say hey we got all these shows and they go

shit why would we get uh 12 cars or 13 cars well because there's five other races tonight yeah and

hopefully the right people around them I know I know of the couple and I don't know their outlook

on things I would argue one was more like screw everyone else but we'll guess we'll see if that

mindset's still there or not I just right from their past experience so it'll be interesting yeah

but glad that Mansfield's back again yeah it looks like he ain't afraid to throw some big shows out

yeah and he's you know making changes some I think are great um getting rid of that infield wall I

think's huge yes that was it was it was nice to have but it was logistically made things kind of a

pain in the ass so uh you know some of that stuff yeah definitely a great idea to uh to make those

changes so we'll see where it goes but hey kudos to him another big late model race in Ohio we'll

take it yeah I'm gonna have to make my way to that one doi do I get to count that as a new track

though I don't know be my third version of Mansfield I've been to the guest depends I mean it's

totally different yeah yeah well I don't know is it totally it was used there with Cody Summers

oh yeah yeah a few times I think it's gonna be about the same as that just no infield wall yeah

when smaller stands I know because half of them were already gone I think you'll put new ones up

well yeah but as far as the grandstand that was right it's definitely a little different same

bathrooms it looks like so yeah we shall see but cool another big another big race we love it

everybody Fergie got a win did you see that the stick Elliott memorial I did not Cherokee

did not yeah did not see that couple uh wins some other tracks let me look here I know

uh Tyler carpenter won 10 grand I believe I did see that down in West Virginia yep

Dave Hess won five grand over Max Blair over in Pennsylvania see that's another guy I was thinking

of for Mansfield Dave Hess Corey Hedgecox gets by McDowell to win 7500 yes that was was that

Southern all stars Southern Thunder Super Dirt Sears Thunder Thunder

yeah whatever I like that's that new one it's one of the new ones and then Cotton Pickin that

happened forgot Cotton Picker why didn't you tell him think of it Trey Mills $20,000 good job Trey

Mills over Jimmy Owens and Spencer Hughes Kate Dillard Ethan Dotson the thriller Kate

Shane Klan also on hand Billy Moyer raising Peyton Freeman so yeah tough feel some good cars

42 cars on hand for two nights it could be that tough

you know 42 car sprint car field it's really tough but like I was yeah yeah talk shit

Mason Ziegler lost to Ryan Montgomery for 6000 the win they did a day show over at La Trobe PA

yesterday the Trobe 13 car showed up some of those ULMS races get interesting uh yeah with hey I

give it to them they try out new facilities and new areas you know hey I get it Trobe hasn't been

doing good on their new trying stuff all stars 15 cars yeah 13 cars they're in a different place

too you've been there right nope oh you never went to Steelers camp nope okay you've been there

on accident it's all right we know you like the Steelers yeah hey Steelers one yesterday so it was

Brown's baby yeah I turned it on there's three minutes ago we decided to start playing I turned

it on right though I started watching it's like oh 10-0 this awesome the Browns are gonna be 0-3

then all of a sudden bam bam like what the hell is this I didn't turn this shit off yeah and then

you see the Falcons kicker he made what was he like the week before he made like five kicks and they

cut the other guy that the first week who didn't do shit and then this week the guy the new guy that

was the savior missed his only two kicks or something so no I didn't see that but I did see

George Pickens have a meltdown on Cowboys Australia when I thought was awesome yeah because

everybody gave Steelers shit for getting right guys a great receiver when he can catch it but he is

he'd be like Antonio Brown his career's gonna be short because he's stupid just a little

little too high maintenance about stuff he was throwing his helmet yesterday and he's

one dropping the ball yeah like back pressed on and then make him drop it yeah I guess the Falcons

fired their wide receiver coach too because they had so many drop passes and everyone's like it's

his fault the wide receivers can't catch the balls that throw right to him or Michael Penex had a

bad game because nobody wanted to catch the balls for him I guess so unlike you you like catching

balls yeah all right well that's been our NFL minute minute yes Colts three and oh I know Daniel

Jones Daniel Jones get away from the Giants and you turn your Jones turn into a ball or

dude I mean it's a quam Barkley last year same thing gets away from the Giants and he has career

years so yeah wild where you going this weekend um Coles County to a light model race on Sunday

the invitational deal road to the dome um things funny because they're kind of playing off the

dome deal and somebody asked them today like why is it road to the dome does like the winner get

those like no um oh I thought there was like a provisional or something yeah you would think so

but no I think they're just playing nice kind of playing on it I think it's gonna be interesting

because they have all these superstars invited but you don't see they lift the 15 light model

drivers and 15 modified drivers that confirmed which Chris Ferguson's one of them Fager RTJ

supposedly 10,000 to win um four supposedly a 45,000 dollar light model feature purse but uh

then the modified I don't even know what it is to win but it got all these guys but last week they

invited a bunch more and nothing against some of the drivers but they're saying this could be a

megastar event some of the guys I see invited it's like I don't think they're mega stars

so that that questions me okay are all these guys really confirmed are you trying to fill

the field now because they're supposed to have qualifying heat races to be main for each thing

and it's like why we adding all these other guys yeah which I don't even know if some of them

won an amane to me if you're a megastar you're proud of at least one in a main I would imagine

I would think but yeah I mean don't get me wrong I think it's gonna be cool uh hopefully it turns

out good I see they're still selling tickets uh which the place is a little granted they're adding

a lot of grandstands uh but uh I just from what I'm reading people are afraid like who's gonna be

there yeah maybe we're gonna we'll buy tickets if we know who's gonna be there um and now they're

selling parking and now they got working on a shuttle deal they're gonna release some information

that if you park far away but if you park in the spot or up close to the track like we did for the

Illinois midge race there now I see they're selling those spots for $20 piece nice so

sounds like if you want to get anywhere near the thing so it sounds like they're trying to make

a little bit of a money grab that way it's like dude if you can't afford the purse don't charge

20 bucks apart that's the stupidest thing you do make make you pick it instead of making those

tickets 40 bucks make them 50 mm-hmm it's charging $20 park is it's not starting off on a good foot

I don't think I'm not gonna make a lot of people happy with that one 20 bucks to park yeah and it's

out in the middle of nowhere and there's no parking around I suppose they bought some land and clearing

this off it's like they're acting like they're gonna have a world 100 crowd but the place is small

yeah they added some grandstand but they even sold out the grandstands yet so it's like maybe

you need to do some stuff to help yourself yeah like release the big stars they're gonna be there

pretend the few that you did and they keep saying oh there's more you ain't gonna want to miss it and

everybody's like well who ain't we gonna want to miss yeah because you know they I don't know it could

be one of those that may lay a big egg I ain't saying the racing ain't gonna be good if the guys

are there but you'll be there to catch it let us know and Saturday night I think I'm gonna go to

Charlestown Charleston uh so you like 10 miles from there just there it's their season championship

tonight just a regular show but uh it's only like 10 miles from here we can stay in the same

motel they're literally like 10 12 miles apart I think our motel from um which same

motel we stayed in when we went there for Illinois Speedway I think it's like eight miles from

Coles County and I think it's 18 miles or 17 miles from Charleston so it just makes sense I mean

Red Hill has Moa but that's like an hour and 40 minutes away we could go to Paragon or Lincoln

Park on the way uh they're battling each other Paragon's got a $5,000 win non-wing show on Saturday

you sex there on Friday you sex a butler on Saturday uh so I don't know but I'll be on

Millstream Friday yes Millstream Friday are you going to Millstream no I'm not gonna be able to

we got stuff going on we got Anise doing her first homecoming and she's in marching band and Friday

night's the homecoming game and then Saturday we were supposed to be around for homecoming pictures

all things you know I enjoy so yeah I won't be able to uh get out to the races this weekend

surprise there I know I know I holy crap are you sure that's right oh my goodness yeah holy crap so

um we can always go to Oakeshade to show down series yeah there you go um but yes I'm going

to Millstream Friday for the Outlaws and the GLTS sprints um I think to Charleston on

Saturday then Coast County on Sunday right I'll be back Monday for the podcast right

maybe all right you got a phone we'll make it happen maybe well I'm going to piss my pants

let's wrap this up all right I thought you already did no oh trying to avoid that

Steve Parks and his beer he gave me that's right put me over the top look at Steve he drank it yeah

I did I'm gonna have the other one too at some point because that was pretty good beer anyway

thank you all for listening thank you for tuning in we appreciate it nice meeting you yeah you got

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you Tony Laporta buddies now no no I did not talk Tony Laporta well kind of but not much

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a lot better than Drake that kid Jesus hey and his defense it's just hard to find people who want

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