Episode 382 - The High Limits Schedule is Out and The Significant Others Join Us
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quarter mile
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sprint cars
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Attica Speedway
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Late Models
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NASCAR team
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sanctioned track
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trailer
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livery
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IndyCar
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USAC
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4-con
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Eagle
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Hello everybody, hi, there's Dwayne, we have some guests with us today, say hi guests.
Hi guests.
Hi guests.
Okay, the 12-year-old sounding one is my wife Nicole, okay, and then there's Melissa, say
hello.
Who is not his wife.
Thank God.
I am Dwayne's keeper.
Yes, she's Dwayne's wrangler, God bless her, don't know how she pulled that one off, but
anyway, how she got so unfortunate to do that I guess.
But anyway, everyone for some damn reason wanted, I guess I don't know if everyone wanted
to or Dwayne just wanted to get them on, I know I sure as hell didn't, but we got them
on finally.
Our fans did, we have fans that request it.
Dwayne's sitting still long enough for him to bring Melissa over and record a podcast,
so we figured today was the day.
You just insult people the whole time.
Yes.
Pretty good at it.
A little fart and burp.
That's pretty fun.
Yeah.
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Really?
Yeah.
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Yeah, she was going to do it.
That's awesome.
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We switched it up.
Yeah.
I guess I should add, we're in my kitchen, my dogs are running, you'll hear jingles in
the background, you'll hear chewing on bones, right now one's barking at the other, so-
The chewing on bones doesn't have to be the dogs, right?
Yeah.
It could be Elliot.
Yeah, you never know.
So apologies, but you might hear some of that in the background.
They're big, dumb animals, so-
That'd be okay.
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Otis didn't like that.
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Hey, Otis.
He's coming at Dwayne.
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I go right- No, I go to the Whistle Stop, man.
I'm the youngest person at this table, and I don't want to use door dash.
I don't use door dash, so- Slow your roll, first of all.
I'm sorry.
I'm by far the youngest person at this table.
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When he said bar, I was like, yeah, everybody knew that, but they had to ask bar.
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Close.
We're having a cage match.
Dogs are being assholes.
Surprise there.
We can always lock Otis up if we need to.
You want locked up, asshole?
Huh?
Don't call me asshole.
Dwight's like, yeah, I want to be locked up.
Baby.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Dwayne won every damn time.
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I will be there Friday.
This Friday?
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That's right.
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That sounds good.
Our buddy Andrew has put in.
Did you see the pictures online?
Of installing it?
Yeah.
Yeah, so.
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Your mom listens to this.
I know.
I hope she says something.
Mama Bev will not be happy.
Mama Bev probably likes Melissa better than Dwayne.
She so does.
Yeah.
That's out there.
Anyway, we got the ladies here with us.
We'll talk a little bit of racing news happening.
You guys can feel free to chime in.
I know Melissa probably knows a little more than Nicole does, but on some of the recent
happenings.
Not a lot to talk about.
Not an insult.
I know more than you think.
I'm not saying you don't.
You just, I know you don't pay attention to it like Melissa does, so.
Well, I don't really have a choice because it's read to me all, it's like a ticker tape.
From the time he gets up to the time we go to bed.
Guess what?
Did you hear this?
He's like Rain Man.
Yes.
Nicole knows what that's like.
You picked it.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Definitely like Rain Man.
Anyway, one of the bigger events going on.
Again, nothing really in our area happening.
I know Dwayne probably paid more attention to this one, but the Short Track Nationals.
Kind of.
Down in Arkansas.
Yes.
I believe this year.
Yes.
Texarkana, which, you know, for Tim Crawley, I've always liked Tim Crawley.
He's helping run it.
It was pretty disorganized.
Was it?
Yes.
Bad.
I did not notice.
I didn't make it.
Saturday night.
Had to go to bed.
We got home from the wedding to turn it on and there's two A mains left and two and a
half hours later I shut it off because there's still laps to go.
Nice.
I saw a prelim night.
Cole was leading or chasing down the leader and then lap car got.
No.
No.
Leaders.
That's right.
Martin.
Spun out on the cushion.
Collected Cole and then I saw Hank Davis won it on Saturday.
Hank Davis won on Friday.
On Friday too.
And then Cole was chasing Hank Davis down.
I stayed up to watch it and Cole finally caught him and then Cole caught the wall and flipped.
Ah.
I was like I stayed up for two hours for this.
Yeah.
So I went to bed.
Hank Davis.
Hank Davis is a great guy.
Melissa and I met him last year at Chili Bowl.
You know I didn't realize he's only like 23 or 24.
Yeah.
I thought he was like 50.
I thought he was in his 30s.
Gotcha.
But super cool guy.
We bought some of his merch and man.
I mean he literally was.
He was getting ready to go out for a race.
He got out.
He come over and he thanked us and shaking our hand.
Man thanks for buying my merch.
Dude you gotta go race.
We'll talk to you later.
Yeah I should say the first Chili Bowl is kind of where he made his name obviously.
Yep.
First time I heard his name I was like this dude's gotta be like some veteran from Oklahoma
I'm just not familiar with.
And then yeah Chili Bowl you see him he's a younger guy.
He's great at mini sprints.
You know he's one of those mini sprint guys from out there.
But yeah a 20k.
I think he's the biggest winner of his career.
Yeah.
He had a better night than Sam Haperteeth.
Yeah.
Yeah Sam had a bad night.
He got ran over by a push truck.
Ah.
And then he spun out.
And then he flipped.
Interesting.
All in the same race.
Not how you want to have a weekend go by any means.
No.
No.
But yeah watch what I could stomach of all the messing around.
Yeah.
Um other big one going on.
Kind of big.
The National 100 down in east Alabama.
Yeah.
That was kind of an interesting ordeal because they only had 21 cars show up the first night.
I think they ended up 23 on the final night.
Um.
And then they went through a lot of tires.
It sounds like.
And Tyler Erb got his second straight 30,000.
30,000 to win.
21 cars show up.
Yeah.
Well and it's one of those that's three days long.
Yep.
I seen uh Billy Potts Jr.
I don't know if you've seen his thing.
I should have looked it up.
Because he's like I'm not picking.
He goes I love the race.
And I love.
He goes.
People.
Especially at the start of the season.
Pick tracks.
Maybe not necessarily because they pay out a lot.
But he's like.
There he goes.
These tracks are doing three day shows that only have one major payout.
Are going to start losing.
Because you can't afford to do that anymore.
Yeah.
You used to be able to.
But he says.
Where you do qualifying one day.
Heat races one day.
Features.
Or you might have a prelim feature pace.
You know.
Nothing.
Yep.
He's like.
It's just harder and harder.
And he goes.
But you see guys picking and choosing more.
Because.
They know there's only going to be 20 some cars.
Yeah.
And I know.
That was a hunt the front.
Yeah.
Event.
And then that left.
The joiners had some words.
Kind of.
Poking.
Poking at him.
Saying.
You know.
Hey.
You dumped us.
And.
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah.
East Alabama.
Told them they didn't need him anymore.
And.
Car count went way down.
Yeah.
Supposedly.
So.
And it's kind of a marathon event.
There's like 100 different classes.
And.
Yeah.
I remember I tried to watch it on.
Dirt on dirt one time.
Years ago.
And I was like.
Watching.
You know.
14 stock divisions.
Yeah.
It's literally like.
12.
14 classes.
Yeah.
It's quite.
Quite the event.
Needless to say.
Yeah.
Charlotte raced.
The short track world championships.
That was.
Like a motocross track.
Yeah.
That was interesting.
A lot of rain in that area.
I think they had like.
Seven inches of rain.
All week.
Leading up to it.
Had to push it to Saturday.
Sunday.
Had almost 500 cars.
Well.
Yeah.
A lot of cars.
What 72.
I think of the Hornets.
Yeah.
Montana.
Got the win.
In the crate.
Crate late models.
8,000 dollar paychecks.
Nothing to.
Nothing to.
Put your nose up at.
57 cars on hand.
Too.
So.
Tough field for.
Crate guys.
None the less.
Just a quick.
Quick things.
Mason Ziegler.
Won at Potomac.
I believe that was ULMS race.
Clinched the championship with that.
Bridgeport or BAPS?
Bridgeport.
BAPS.
Who won that?
I think it was Justin Whittle.
Okay.
I think you're correct on that.
Pretty sure it was Justin Whittle.
BAPS is a week from Saturday.
Yes.
That's right.
That still has yet to come.
Yeah.
What?
What's your problem over there?
Your mic's a mile away from your face.
Can you get closer?
Hey.
We can go to BAPS now.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
Why?
Because I won't be home?
Yeah.
I can go to BAPS now.
There you go now.
He keeps talking about going to races.
and I won't be home because he knows it'll make me mad.
Nice.
Not because he's going, but because I didn't get to go.
See?
Justin Whittle.
Won by three seconds over Chase Dietsch.
Okay.
Which on that track, three seconds, that's a pretty damn big lead.
Yeah.
Otherwise, just a couple results things to bring to the forefront there, Dwayne.
I didn't have much else, so.
NARC.
Did you see?
Oh.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
Stocks.
You didn't see.
Oh, Stockton, California, right?
Yeah, Justin Sanders.
Yes.
Won there.
And I think they crowned the champion too.
Gotcha.
I know Mariah Ede got rookie of the year.
But I don't know who got the championship.
10-4.
Otherwise a few, excuse me, news things to talk about.
I guess the big one, I mean, Dwayne, we're discussing a little bit before we start recording,
the high limit schedule announced today.
Yeah.
All righty.
So these are to-be-announced dates on there, but for the most part, it's pretty filled
up.
Oh, is there something?
I didn't see that.
What's that?
TBAs.
Yeah, there's still a couple TBAs on there.
But the start of the season out in March in Las Vegas, let's go to Central Arizona, Nevado,
then to Route 66, that's Texas, I believe, then up to Kansas, Lakeside 81, Lucas Oil
Speedway.
So they don't get to Kokomo, which is their first kind of Midwest race, until the middle
of May, which is a two-day show.
I'm sure Dwayne was happy to see that one on there.
As they're there later in the year, in September, for a midweek show as well.
Eight dates at Port Royal, I saw a few people kind of chirping about that.
But, obviously, those are long weekend races, some of those.
But then they go to Big Sky, Montana.
They're in Eagle, Nebraska.
They're Minnesota, South Dakota.
Minnesota.
Quite the schedule happening there.
I believe it's the Thursday after the Nats, they're back to California.
Or is that two weeks after the Nats?
Which one is it?
August 20th.
That would be...
That's not four days after Knoxville this year, is it?
No, I don't think so.
So it'd be a week and four days.
I don't believe so, no.
Must have pushed that one out a little bit.
Because the last two years, they've gone to Knoxville.
Yeah, because Knoxville...
No, it will be four days after.
Is Knoxville later this year?
Yes, because the 7th and 8th is the 360 Nationals.
Okay.
So the 14th, 15th.
So, yeah, it'll be four days.
So that'll be four days.
They have three dates at Kokomo this year.
Yeah, I see a Kokomo...
That's awesome.
Yeah, May 8th and 9th.
Yeah, and then later in the season.
And then they do a midweek in August, or September, sorry, before Eldora.
I don't know if I can go to May 8th.
And then they got the...
I can.
Fremont, Ohio, happening in July on the Monday before the King's Royal,
which last year worked out real well.
They had that Monday.
Then Tuesday is the Brad Doty.
And then Wednesday through Saturday, they go to Eldora for the King's Royal weekend.
So, I don't know, Dwayne, what did you think of the high-limits schedule?
It looks crazy to me of traveling back and forth across the country a few times,
like going to Montana for two races.
I mean, literally, they're June 11th in Iowa, then June 26th and 27th in Montana,
which I know South Dakota's in there for the Outlaws, the $250,000 deal,
so they'll be in South Dakota.
But still, you're going to drive all the way to Montana for two races?
To me, it looks like a lot more traveling and a lot more nonsense traveling.
I mean, you're going big distances.
You're crossing the country a couple times.
So, I think it will be interesting.
Yeah.
We'll see who follows it and what, I guess, still not clear.
Maybe I'm just small-minded,
which is very possible on how the points stuff is supposed to shake out and all that good crap.
Yeah, because the 10s should be locked in.
Yeah.
But, yeah, end of May, they go to Lawrenceburg on the 29th and then to Butler, Michigan, again,
Saturday the 30th.
So that will be a popular show in our area.
I know a lot of people kind of said, you know, kind of a bummer,
not more Ohio shows other than Eldora.
Fremont.
And they got the Fremont show.
But other than that, but we know most tracks around here are kind of, were Outlaws.
So, Sharon, Attica.
Millstream.
Millstream this year.
So, yeah.
I know the Outlaws are back at Sharon for sure.
Well, they do finish at Texas again.
We thought maybe that would be a doubled-up weekend with the Lucas Oil show coming to Eldora.
But they have the 10th at Lakeside and Friday the 9th, TBA.
So, it doesn't sound like they're going to be anywhere near us.
The end of the season.
The other schedule released, the Ironman late model schedule, which was?
35 races.
Yeah.
And a couple of interesting ones added.
They do a two-day show at Millstream.
Yes.
One will be on the quarter mile.
The other will be on the four-tenths mile.
And that one's 10,000 to win.
And that's during the Knoxville National time around here, so, for sprint cars.
So, it should hopefully get a good crowd.
Excuse me.
The Memorial Day weekend, they go through Michigan again.
I-96, Butler, and Crystal.
All 10,000 win shows this year.
So, that'll be cool.
That's a huge weekend.
That's big.
That's cool.
Go to West Virginia Motor Speedway.
Co-sanctioned with the Word of Outlaw late models in the middle of June.
At Atomic, I believe, five times.
And then?
Oak Shea, Lima.
Excuse me.
They got Limaland back on the schedule.
June 26th.
Just the same weekend as they had them last year.
Yeah, with Skyline.
The next day, they haven't been to Skyline, I don't think.
I don't believe so.
Then, in the middle of August, I-96 and Butler for a Friday-Saturday.
Then, the following weekend would be the 14-15th for Millstream.
Then, they do two features at Eldora, Labor Day weekend.
Yeah, with Attica and Mount Pillar.
That weekend, too.
So, Mount Pillar on Saturday and Eldora on Sunday for two shows, which.
That's a big Labor Day weekend.
And it makes sense.
I mean, Eldora and Mount Pillar is only 40 miles or less apart.
I was going to say, I don't think they're quite an hour away from each other.
And then, they end up at the end of the season.
I'm guessing it's the Monster Mash weekend at Mount Pillar.
That was fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had a Monster Mash for 5K to win.
Pretty good schedule.
Still a lot of traveling.
I know that was kind of a couple guys who didn't follow it this year,
just going down to the Mud Licks and Atomic so many times for the guys up here
was a little cumbersome.
But still a lot of money in our area for light models, at least.
Yeah, I was going to say, if you want to travel for the money, I mean.
Yeah, May 15th and 16th, 15th are at Attica,
and then they go over to Muskegon on Saturday.
That would be the Let's Race 2 weekend, I believe, at Eldora.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, and every show is at least 5,000 to win.
Yeah, with some bigger money races in there.
Yeah, you got to travel a little to get the money.
And 20,000 to win to the points guy, so points champion.
So we'll see where things end up.
But, yeah, Iron Man's schedule out.
I know there's a couple additions to that yet, but that is where it's at.
You're only a man.
You're not Iron Man.
Maybe you weren't paying close enough attention to Otis.
I know.
Otis is mad because I quit petting him.
He's a needy little bitch sometimes.
I also drugged him, so he should be going to sleep here pretty soon.
Could you do that to Elliot sometime on a Monday?
I do regularly.
Nothing puts me to sleep more than listening to you, Dwayne.
Don't you worry.
Me too.
The other news announcement, driver team announcement, Tanner Holmes to the Book 13.
Yes.
What did you think of that one, Dwayne?
I mean, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
It wouldn't have been my first pick.
I was a little surprised.
I knew it was going to happen two days before they announced it.
Of course you did.
Right?
He always goes, I knew it.
I did.
I knew it this week.
But we didn't do a show.
He's not.
I mean, he isn't making that up.
A lot of the times, he does know.
Trust me, fans are always complimenting us, and mostly Dwayne, not me, about what we hear
and how much of it actually goes through as being correct.
He'll tell me something, and he'll say, you can't say anything.
I'm like, dude, in 20 minutes I'll have forgotten you told me anyway, so we're fine.
But, yeah, so, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, he's famous.
He's one of those YouTube guys that's got millions of followers.
That's one of the reasons he got the job.
He has, you know, they said he's very good, which he is.
I mean, he's very good with fans.
He's very good with people, with kids.
And one thing he does on his YouTube is he explains a lot to people that don't know.
Like, hey, and he does it at track, too.
Okay, we're going here.
Here's what the format is this weekend, and here's what this means.
Here's what that means.
And he does a lot of things with the car, too.
Like, here's what we mean when we say put weight into it.
Here's what we say when we do this.
And that's one of the reasons I hired him, because I know a couple other people on their radar.
I don't know.
I mean, he's had a couple chances.
He's done all right.
I mean, he's done okay in the Tarleton car.
I mean, I think he needs to get consistent.
Yeah.
It seems like he's lacking consistency still.
But, yeah, I think it, I mean, Dason personally had a little bit of inconsistency, too,
which they wasn't planning on Dason leaving.
And I heard that from a very good source, so it kind of shocked them.
But Kane kept pursuing him more and coming back and offering, you know,
a little more and a little more to where Dason was like, okay, I have to leave.
So, you know, so then that put them in a spot of, okay, now what do we do?
And I guess they had 35 people in the first, like, hour.
And, you know, they had some veterans.
Supposedly Lance DeWeese was one of them, you know.
Oh, wow.
Which that would have been cool, I think.
But they liked, you know, developing younger people.
And I think he'll do all right.
I think he'll do decent.
I mean, I think he'll have moments like he has so far of running in the top three or four,
and then he'll have days that he's going to be in the B main.
Yeah.
Like I said, it wouldn't have been my first pick, but I think he'll do all right.
Yeah.
Yeah, 84,000 subscribers on the YouTube channel, just so you know.
So not millions, but his views, I'm sure he's got some.
And that's still a healthy crowd for a dirt racer, so nothing wrong there.
But, like, right now he's barking at nothing.
Dumbass dog.
All right.
So any other bit of news I'm missing before we get to what everyone came to hear?
Not that I can think of.
That old, used to be the Midwest Thunder or whatever sprints.
They finished third season.
J.J. Hughes, the track champion, or the series champion, and Jared Shaden Rogers took the win.
They finished at Red Hill.
Oh, that's right.
I did see, like, a photographer I followed said, oh, last race at Red Hill.
Yep.
Oh, the Big B Speedway.
Yes, yesterday.
Small Classic was yesterday.
95 carts.
Yes.
Our buddy Brayden Harrison went ass over tea kettle in qualifying.
Yeah.
That was scary.
Yeah.
He learned that from his dad.
Well, I mean, he drives a lot faster than his dad.
I was going to say, he didn't learn the fast part from his dad.
He learned the crashing part, for sure.
Dude, this ain't going to go good, because.
He's going to hold my hat and hoodie hostage, I think.
No, he was actually sending it to me.
And he told me I was supposed to tell you, if you promote Crown Batteries a little bit, you might get a few extra things.
But maybe not now that we're seeing these.
I love Crown Batteries.
Well, he didn't say that you did.
He just agreed.
Gotcha.
Who brought you?
You did.
Yeah.
Crown Battery, best company ever.
It is.
Yes.
Very good.
So the next segment is when we'll bring our lovely significant others in.
We did some fan questions, but mentioned that my wife and Dwayne's girlfriend would be here to chime in and ask them anything you want.
I'm surprised we didn't get more rude and personal questions.
I know.
Maybe thankful at this point.
Well, let's use a chicken.
We'll take them live.
Get on Facebook right now.
Right.
Yeah.
But the funny thing is, my wife, she's not in on all the stuff with Dirt Nerds, which is fine.
She doesn't listen or anything.
So when some of you guys leave questions, she's like, am I going to have to fight this motherfucker?
She's ready to throw it out.
Hey, that's not fair.
I listen every Monday.
I sit out here and listen to you and Dwayne.
Yeah.
Mainly me, because she don't care what you say.
Mondays are usually that quiet night.
I don't have to listen to you talk nonstop, but here I am.
So Ryan Leary, Chris Palmer, Nicole's coming for you, just so you know.
It's my quiet night, too.
It's my quiet night.
It's the night I get my projects done.
Well, Palmer, he ice ships out of here, no?
Yeah.
And he drives a Toyota, too.
Can't forget that part.
At least I don't have to worry about that breaking down.
He's building a race car, though.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Five or six years, it'll be ready?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's that whatever old class, the vintage or whatever.
Oh, gotcha.
But that they actually race.
Death trap?
Okay.
Cool.
That they actually race, not the vintage we see around here.
So we'll go to our first question.
The first guy, Nicole's got to fight.
Ryan Leary, which I explained, he's from the East Coast.
They're all kind of assholes, so that's the vibe that comes through.
It's true.
Right?
So first is, why in the F is your audio coming out so low?
There's no way I can be the only one that can barely hear you guys.
Ryan, turn your volume up.
See?
I was going to say, Ryan, you have a volume button.
Use it.
Because it's LA.
He dicks it up every week, Ryan.
I mean, East Coast people, maybe a little thicker in the head.
Can't figure that out.
I don't know.
I mean, you have to turn it down a bit so Dwayne doesn't overpower and shake the windows.
You're probably really going to hate this episode because I know the levels are all over the place.
So sorry, Ryan.
But anyway, Ryan's first point is, Elliot, how's that mushroom hat?
You still wear that and some Speedos when you're home alone with your dogs and a jar of peanut butter?
It is true.
I mean, I guess I didn't explain this to Nicole and Melissa.
He sent me a mushroom hat because Ryan really enjoys penises.
And he wanted, for some reason, thought I enjoyed them, so he sent me a hat that had a bunch of them on it.
Maybe he mistook him for Dwayne.
We know Dwayne's the more penis guy.
Ask Chad.
So anyway, Ryan likes the shape of mushrooms for some reason.
He figured I should share in his.
I think he's seen that one on your forehead that one time.
Is there an actual hat?
He sent it.
I think I threw it away.
I threw it away right away.
Yeah.
So you could have worn that with your.
I have a crown.
I have a freaking cape.
I have all kinds of shit.
Yeah, you could have been king of the mushroom heads.
Your peanut butter underwear.
Yeah.
So then he said you still wear some speedos when you're home alone with your dogs and jar of peanut butter.
No, I do that when my wife's here, too.
Don't you worry.
Yes.
So then he says, hey, Dwayne, I forgot.
I didn't forget you, buddy.
You screwed over not only myself and your driver, but all the PA fans over this year when you never came out to any 410 shows.
It's OK.
In all reality, you didn't really miss much.
Maybe we'll catch up in 2026.
Why is he so angry?
We went to Pennsylvania to 410 shows.
To USAC.
He was busy then.
I was supposed to go to the National Open, but I didn't.
And my driver, his daughter, that's going to be a NASCAR star.
You know, that Napa Brian support.
Yeah.
And then he says dirt nerds are still better than trackside trash talk.
I don't know who they are, so I apologize, but they said.
I have to listen to them now.
They said they'd rather hear nails on a chalkboard than listen to dirt nerds.
And then we can fight them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
I never even heard of them.
I never heard of them.
I saw they have like a thousand followers.
So, I mean, not real worried about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Turf war.
Turf war.
I looked at a few minutes and that's about all I could listen because they're really not.
How long did you listen?
A few minutes.
That's got to be a record.
They know like Jeffy and Dreddy, which, okay.
Yeah, right on.
So, that's the things.
No, Ryan, Larry, you know, they was, I think Larry went to priesthood with them.
Oh, so they're all celibate or something?
Yeah.
Anyway, the wives don't know how to take us on this one.
Oh, yes, I do.
But, yeah, so when you guys.
Oh, she knows how to take it.
Not for longer than two minutes, apparently.
Anyway.
No challenge.
But, anyway, that's something like my wife specifically doesn't understand all the trash
shit talking online.
Like, she's, again, she was ready to fight you, Ryan.
So, you better hope she's not with me at a race.
Maybe.
I'm short, but I'm.
She's fired.
It's the short ones that are scary.
She'll like you when she sees you and you start giving her shit.
Our next one, our actual question, our buddy Tommy Moreau from Canada, eh?
So, he says, when does Elliot start his National Dirt Late model teams?
Now that every series is on floor Dirt Ridge and what region in the states would you like
them to visit?
Have a great week, both of you.
Is that the one that.
He's Canadian.
We would like them to visit.
Yes, you've met him at Wayne County.
That's right.
I do remember that.
I call him Touchdown Tommy, but it's Canada.
They don't really have the same kind of football that we're used to.
But, anyway, I don't have any plans to start National Dirt Late model teams.
Sorry, Tommy.
Yeah, he's sticking with his boyfriend, Devin.
That's right.
I got, I got my team set.
So, now that every series is on floor Dirt Vision, what's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
What's right?
I got my team set.
So, now that every series is on floor Dirt Vision, which region in the states would you
like to see them visit?
Have a great week, both of you.
Ohio.
Ohio?
Yeah, I want to see Luke Soil, or I don't even know what Outlaws, Ikeda, Maelstrom,
Late Models that is.
Yeah.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
I mean, one time Limaland had the Outlaws scheduled and then the power went out, so
we showed up just to find out the race was canceled.
Yeah, I'd like to see a national show back at Attica because the racing has been great
for Late Models the last few years.
Michigan did a good job, I think, when they had Outlaws up there.
I know logistically it's just kind of a pain in their ass because it's the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, I think 86 would be good.
Yes, it would be.
But, yeah.
Which you could do, well.
I mean, we're homers, so obviously we want to see those guys come in our area because
they do come to Ohio, but they're not really that close.
Right.
Atomic has them, and then Wayne County used to have the Outlaws.
I don't think they have them anymore.
Oh, they just have Hell Tour.
Yeah.
Wait a minute, though.
If it's within four hours, isn't it still our area?
Is Atomic four hours?
I don't know.
It's more than that.
Five or six.
I think it's like four and a half.
Not if Dwayne's driving.
Dwayne's driving is a different story.
Are you talking about Elliott there?
He's going to be there.
You're talking about Elliott.
I think Oak Shade's far from me, so.
No, I just don't go there because it's shithole.
There's a difference.
Yeah.
Cocomo, National Late Model Show.
Yes.
Would be cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, somewhere in our area.
They could be at Attica on Friday, somewhere in between on Saturday and Cocomo on Sunday.
There you go.
But, yeah.
Charleston, Illinois.
I want to see them go there.
We'll be homers on that one.
Attica needs a national late model race.
They just do.
I know in 1872 when they did it, it didn't get money.
We've got to keep the same format and the same schedule since then.
Yeah.
Things have changed.
Yes.
Late model shows definitely have a lot more popularity than they did 10 years ago even.
Yes.
I mean, you go to any Lucas Oil Show or World Outlaw Late Model Show and they look like
a World Outlaw Sprint Car Race.
Pretty much just answered one of the other questions.
Dwayne being a big late model fan.
Yeah, big time.
And then, I don't know, but the rumor is there could be one at an Ohio track this year.
Or in 2026.
Interesting.
That they haven't been to.
Gotcha.
It's been talked about.
Okay.
I will say that.
Does that track have a two day show scheduled next year already?
No.
No?
Okay.
No.
Interesting.
This track has sprint cars a lot.
Gotcha.
And they come to Sharon.
World Outlaws come to Sharon, I forgot, too.
Usually.
But, again, that's just.
This one's closer than Sharon.
Gotcha.
Next question.
J.D. Smith, our buddy J.D., asks, how will the return of Mansfield impact the local racing
scene?
And then he asks, do you think pavement racing in Ohio is officially on its deathbed with
the sale of Sandusky, enlisting of Lorraine, only Barberton, Midvale, Shady Bowl, and a
few specials at Kill Care remain?
Yeah.
Mansfield will be an interesting one.
I think it's just going to depend if they play nice.
That's what I was thinking.
With your Fremonts and Atticas and Sharons.
They got to share.
They're close to all that.
So they got to play nice.
And it's for their benefit.
I mean, they're the new person on the block.
Yes, it's Mansfield.
It's been there.
We reopened it once.
I get it.
But still, like, you got to prove yourself with a good surface and all that stuff before
you're going to get regular people coming.
So I think it's to their benefit.
They need to play nice.
Well, I do too.
But we'll see.
I mean, they got a couple of good shows already.
Yeah, a couple of big world all night long shows.
Supposedly, I keep hearing they got seven fast shows and almost 15,000 to win.
Yeah, I think it just depends on how it impacts the local scene.
Like I said, it just depends on when they race.
They could really screw a couple of tracks like Wayne County in that if they run a big
show against their Wayne County race.
Yeah.
But I think he's smart enough from just looking at his stuff because he's playing, he said,
over 100 event nights, not just racing because he's going to do monster trucks.
He's going to do motorcycle, flat track motorcycle racing.
He's going to do concerts.
He's going to do all kinds of things.
Well, they did Haunted Houses.
I wanted to go to that.
Yeah, they did the Haunted House thing.
So he's going to do several things.
They even talked about him making a motocross in the middle, which would be cool if he could
get the Outdoor Professional Series.
Yeah.
And then what do you think about pavement racing in Ohio, Dwayne?
I mean, it's dying for sure.
I mean, Lorain County has been up for promoter of the year in this region for four years
straight.
So it's not like they're not promoting.
It's just expensive.
Sandusky, I don't know if it's totally dead.
They're kind of quiet about the owner because the hot rumor is that Duke Thorson bought
it and you can't own a NASCAR team and the NASCAR is sanctioned track.
So like maybe his money bought it and it's going to be, but I don't know how true that
is.
Shady Bowl seems to be going really strong.
Midvale's going pretty good.
Barberton, I think, struggling.
Oh, Barberton is struggling.
And then Kilcare, yeah, they only have a few shows.
But I know Midvale and Shady Bowl seem to be going good.
Yeah, and we have Toledo still.
You forget about them, but they've definitely trimmed their schedule back.
They're just so big that it's hard to get a good car.
Yeah, for local shows, it's just getting worse and worse.
Yeah, it's getting more expensive.
But you look at Michigan, they're still doing well.
Yeah.
Between Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Owasso, Springport.
But Berlin promotes the shit out of things and they pay good money.
Yeah, and they have nice facilities.
Yeah, it's an excellent facility.
Next sponsor.
Next sponsor.
Next question.
Propane.com.
Hey, we'll take a free jingle in there.
They don't care.
Is in the rule book for four cylinders to be on the chip from the time they get
off the trailer at the racetrack until they go back to the trailer?
Are Dwayne and Elliot going to the dome?
Who's driving the 19 JCM Motorsports car next year?
Any silly season rumors?
Yeah, four cylinders.
They're a fun time sometimes in the pits.
Oh, yeah.
Just like dirt trucks.
Yeah.
You've got to give them the 10-cent tune-up as soon as you start them up.
That's rah!
10-cent tune-up.
Never heard that one.
That's a good one.
I mean, if you've got a four-cylinder or a Fremont dirt truck,
that's what you have to do when you unload them.
That's right.
What, run it wide open?
Yeah.
Who says?
It's got to be on the chip the whole time.
And then there's some, like, dude in coveralls, probably,
or bibs standing over the motor while it's going at 4,000 RPM.
Right, with his hair hanging down.
Cigarette going, yep, it's good.
Sounds good.
Yep, sounds good.
Shut her down, son.
Bang bangers, man.
Can't get enough of them.
And the next time they take it out of the trailer,
it'll be the first race of next year.
Yep.
I love them.
I want one.
Hell, they found out a guy at Butler couldn't even fit in a seat.
I know.
We were there that night.
He drove all the way there and couldn't even get in the car.
Yeah.
He worked on it a lot.
Over the winter.
Tuned her up.
And then Dwayne and Elliot go to the Dome.
I am not.
Dwayne is.
Yes, I am.
We knew Elliot wasn't going.
That's one of my favorite races of the year.
For the record, he's allowed to go.
He chooses not to go.
Yeah, see.
It's not me.
There you go, people.
I know he likes to use me.
I know.
As an excuse.
I would love him to leave for a week.
That would be a gift.
See, Dwayne doesn't.
Well, I can't say you don't get that because you get me gone for like 45 days.
Let's see your best Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
The biggest reason I don't go is because I feel like the best seat is at home watching it on TV, to be honest.
Why?
And his underwear scratching his balls.
Yeah.
What's peanut butter?
So, yeah.
How can you beat that?
But I know it's changed, obviously.
They've gotten shit more organized.
But I know a few of those first shows, like they would go to like 2, 3 in the morning with modified stuff.
Yeah, we haven't had that.
So, do you have seat in your vagina or what?
It's gotten better, but yeah.
I mean, logistically, that area of St. Louis isn't the best for things that are outside of the dome.
Yeah, she was scared last year.
We were staying downtown.
Was not scared.
Well, I know my parents went and, you know, a couple of the nice areas.
Well, they're cool.
And they're not afraid like you.
But there's not a lot of stuff down there.
That's what I knew.
And I know a couple of the places they went aren't even there anymore.
There was like a nice area with restaurants and stuff that's gone now.
Mr. I'm scared.
I literally walked four blocks to get a coffee by myself.
In the daylight.
While he was in our room just chilling.
It's not living if you're doing it in the daylight.
Yeah, like you can't get murdered in the daylight.
That never happens.
Come on now.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
Popping a Zen.
I'm going to punch you in the throat.
Nine Milligum Pillow.
It's a Velo, not a Zen, in case everyone's listening.
Why are you advertising?
I mean, if I get sponsored, that'd be awesome.
Brady's other question, who's driving the 19M for JCM next year?
I don't know.
All signs point to Joyner.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that's true or not.
That's what it seems like.
That's what it seems like.
A little out of our realm down in Alabama.
I don't know for sure what's going on there.
Yeah, but we got a source down there, and it sounds like Joyner from what he said.
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know if he still kept up with them or did stuff with them or not.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's actually doing stuff for them.
Well, yeah, because he's been in the shop with them, I know.
Yeah.
And then any silly season rumors?
I guess we didn't say anything new on the horizon.
Have you heard anything?
Supposedly in the high-limit schedule could still lead to it.
There's been a rumor behind the scenes that there could be the largest paid-in
sprint car race July 4th weekend ever in the history.
But I assume it would be a high-limit race.
High limits are off.
Yeah.
By the time the limit's off, 4th of July weekend.
And Word of Outlaws would take that off now too, I believe.
Well, I would assume it would.
They have the last couple years to give guys a break, even though they all go race
somewhere else.
I don't know.
I feel like if you're going to have that big of a race, we would know about it
already.
I would think so.
You know, you can't really.
And where's it going to be if it's not at Knoxville and Eldora?
It's not going to be at Houston because they have the deal in June.
Yeah.
It's not going to be at Jackson because everyone bitches constantly about
Jackson's surface.
Where would it be?
I don't know.
I was actually thinking it would be a high-limit race somewhere, you know.
Yeah.
But it could be wrong.
It could be wrong.
All right.
So next question.
Krista Bruner asks.
Hi, Krista.
From Bryan, Ohio, I believe, right?
Yeah.
She is.
Yeah.
She's a huge Kyle Larson fan.
She's our kitty's best friend.
Not anymore after I said she's a huge Kyle Larson fan.
No, not a Larson fan.
She likes me more than you, so it'll be all right.
It's all good.
So Krista asks.
She's a huge Bobby Pierce fan.
That is true.
Nice.
So.
Huge Bobby Pierce fan.
Krista asks.
How ornery are they, meaning me and Dwayne, when they get home, when the podcast is over,
when they both have so much fun with each other recording?
I don't think we have fun recording.
Well, Elliott doesn't leave, so it's not like he comes home.
He's just as annoying after the podcast as he is prior to the podcast.
You know, I used to think that Dwayne would call me after the podcast.
On Monday nights when I still lived in Indiana, he would call me.
And I thought, oh, well, that's cool, you know, because we don't see each other.
No, he does that now, too.
Does he?
Yeah.
I don't call you.
Yes, you do.
Not every week.
You don't call me every, but you do still call me.
Every once in a while.
I'll see if you want something before I come home.
You see, usually his phone is buzzing like crazy while we're recording.
All the time.
And then he's calling, oh, I got to call so-and-so from whatever.
Yeah.
And usually he's calling them on the way home.
He's popular.
He's ornery all the time.
But the thing about Mondays that is different is at least any other night of the week, he
has time to, you know, get calmed down like any normal kid.
But on Monday nights, he's all amped up.
So I'm ready to go to bed.
And that's when his best conversations start.
Well, I would hope he has best conversations with me before he got home.
Well, I get, and he knows I'm going to listen to the podcast.
I listen to it.
I mean.
You just don't stop.
I'm going to listen tomorrow.
It's okay.
Yeah.
So he starts to, I'm like, well, I guess I don't have to listen.
Well, you asked me how to go.
You could just say fine.
Okay.
Then you're like, who's wrong?
I mean, honestly, that's how you guys met was because of this podcast.
Yeah.
Because I was his number one groupie.
You're the original Dirt Nerds groupie.
Yeah.
Right.
I can tell you, they usually come out of the room together, giggling, usually giggling,
make it into the kitchen, put their glasses in the sink, and then they talk, talk, talk,
talk, talk, talk, talk for another 10 minutes until Dwayne finally.
Usually we're just starting recording right now.
Yeah.
Dwayne will tell me you guys talk for an hour and a half.
We bullshit about.
Oh my gosh.
Catching up on.
Yeah.
For life for the week.
I mean.
And then getting Otis out of the office.
That's another show.
Yeah.
Otis comes in.
Well, Elliot always wants him out.
I don't care.
Oh, I don't mind if he's there, but he's only good for about 45 minutes and then he wants
out.
So I just know he's not going to want to stay in there.
Right.
And then she said, if there was a Dirt Nerds movie who would play Dwayne and Elliot, what
would it be about besides a podcast making duo?
If you two are in the movie, who would play you?
Wow.
Yeah.
Who would play me, Melissa?
Well, if he were still alive, Farley for sure.
Wait a minute.
Farley for sure.
He's a funny big guy.
And then who would play me?
Yeah.
Excuse me.
Jeez.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Who would play me, Dwayne?
I don't know.
You can say it.
You could be mean.
I don't care.
You could be mean.
Probably Melissa McCarthy.
I think.
Literally, that was on my brain.
Probably Melissa McCarthy.
She's hilarious.
Yeah, you're hilarious.
What about me, hon?
Lurch from The Addams Family.
Who was that guy?
I don't know.
I don't know.
That was the guy from Back to the Future that played the-
Biff?
Biff!
No, the professor.
He was the one that played the new Lurch, wasn't he?
No, that wasn't Lurch.
That was-
Fester.
Fester.
Yeah.
Christopher Lloyd.
Yes.
You could probably pull off Uncle Fester now with that bald spot growing.
Dwayne, look at his bald spot.
Dip your head.
Oh my God.
That's right.
And he thought I had a bald spot.
You do have a bald spot.
You don't have a bald spot.
You're just bald.
Yeah, for sure.
You got a few little threads hanging on up there.
Let me tell you, he coiffs that perfectly every morning.
Hey, that's why we're tall and we wear hats.
Nobody will notice anyway, so it doesn't matter.
It's a whole thing.
So who would play you in a movie, though?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I know the person.
It'd be some...
I go...
I forget her name from White Men Can't Jump.
The girlfriend.
Rosie Perez.
Yeah.
Some little fiery-
The mouth?
Yes.
Some little fiery mouthy Latino.
Perfect.
Even though she's not, but everyone thinks she is, and it's not just because of her complexion.
Or Marissa Tomei off of My Cousin Vinny.
Yeah, yes.
That's where I get it when I say, you and that mouth, because that's literally from
My Cousin Vinny.
Yeah.
I'm not sassy.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Me either.
Yeah.
But what would a movie be about?
You guys would have...
Let's see.
You would be...
Us being cool.
On a quest.
In a grocery getter.
To go to the races somewhere?
Driving cross-country.
I feel like...
In your little...
Yeah.
In your little hatchback.
Oh, yeah.
We could drive from Ohio to California and back and stop at every...
Race track.
A Subaru.
A Subaru.
A Subaru?
Yeah.
Dwayne would be in a Vine.
With no air conditioning.
No radio.
I'd be a sweaty vehicle.
I was looking like the minibike from Dumb and Dumber.
Oh, my God.
The shaggin' way.
We could be the carts people following them in the shaggin' wagon.
Mutt's Cuts Mobile.
Right.
Just go.
Just go.
Just go, man.
All right.
Next question.
Our buddy Graham from Australia.
Graham!
Graham, my wife.
Hi, Graham.
Kind of understood your question.
I had to give her some back story on what livery means.
Because it's not a common term here.
I don't really know...
Oh, to Melissa it is.
They say when you talk Formula One and IndyCar,
you use some stupid term called livery instead of scheme or whatever, but...
Yeah, Melissa used words like that all the time.
I said, nobody talks those words around here.
I'm sorry we took grammar in high school instead of ag.
Fancy European, King's English bullshit.
Yeah.
So, anyway, Graham all the way from Australia asks,
first question is for Melissa.
As Dwayne has been to over 200 tracks,
what is one you haven't been to that he needs to take you to
and what class would be racing?
Well, see, he's been to 200 tracks plus in his lifetime.
I have been to 83.
It's a strong likelihood I'll catch up before he gets to like that 300 baloney.
So I'm thinking like...
Yeah, but how many of those have you got new in the last three years?
A bunch.
Like 50 of them.
I think I had eight this year.
Probably like Placerville, Ventura, and it would be Midget.
Oh, yeah.
100% Midget.
Yeah, Midget's at Ventura for sure.
Have you been to Ventura, Dwayne?
No.
Oh, that'd be a new track.
I could go to Placerville.
If you go...
You've been to Tulare for trophy caps.
Yeah.
I'm saying this on a live podcast.
If you go racing while I am out of town working, I will kill you.
If I go to California?
Just don't come back.
Maybe I won't.
Yeah, right.
So second question's for Nicole.
We all love it when teams do special livery releases.
What kind of livery as a character movie or cartoon would best describe Elliot?
Shrek.
I said Wreck-It Ralph.
Or Wreck-It Ralph.
Oh, that would be a good one.
Or actually, we were talking earlier.
I think the old Sesame Street characters, the Yip-Yips.
Yip, yip, yip, yip, yip.
I like SpongeBob.
Dwayne would be one of the hecklers.
Yes!
This sucks.
It's terrible.
Boo!
I love those guys.
I am one of those guys all the time.
That would be their duo.
Dwayne would be Ludo off of Labyrinth.
Oh, smell bad.
That movie's stupid, by the way.
What?
I think Elliot would be SpongeBob.
I made him watch Labyrinth.
He didn't like it.
What is not a stupid movie?
I feel like I'd be like the seagulls from Finding Nemo.
Mine?
Mine?
Mine.
Or Crush.
And Turtle.
Or Sling Blade.
You could do a Sling Blade.
Oh, that would be awesome.
I'd be a good one.
French fried taters.
Next one for Dwayne.
Do you think the loss of Day, Sweet, and a lot less Larson due to NASCAR stuff?
As some of the gloss of the High Limit drivers has faded, I think the retirement of Sweet
full-time is a huge loss, one others haven't realized.
I don't think it's really lost the gloss of it.
I mean, we knew Day was going to be gone.
Sweet, yeah, I mean, he's had not the best of a year in Larson's hit and miss.
But no, I don't think so because, I mean, the whole idea of it, I think the whole shine
of it is the big money, the play.
They're more theatrical, like, okay, we got the wheels spin, and we got the dice roll,
and big money, and as long as they keep doing that, I think that'll keep it.
I mean, because it's like any other deal.
Good drivers are going to come or go, and somebody's going to step up and take their
place.
I mean, I think Dayson will do good, and Sweet's right, and who knows who else will join the
tour this year.
I think what's going to kill it is if they keep this 10 cars locked in, and what'll be
interesting is the points of the non-10 locked in, how much money they're going to get.
And how do you get new teams?
Exactly.
That's where my earthing is.
Hopefully they learned their lesson on the swaying back and forth on regulations, too,
that plagued them in that first year.
Yeah, they've had some questionable calls.
Exactly.
The schedule is a little strung out, I think, especially more this year, obviously, as we
learned today.
Yeah.
This is a lot of money for guys to join up.
No, I think it'll still be fine.
And then especially if you're not guaranteed all this money, who knew who was going to
ever sign up for it?
Yeah.
So I think that, like you said, I think that'll be more of a telltale sign than anything.
Yeah, I think so.
He says, for Elliot, for a big late model race, like $100,000 type, would you rather
only the best but less cars, max 28 on a smaller track, finishing one night, or 100-plus
on a big track, dragged on for three nights?
Thoughts?
I would say Eldora has it.
I mean, okay, so I'm a little jaded and biased, because Eldora does it so well.
I like that 100 cars show up for three nights, and there's a hell of a lot of racing to watch.
You're not just watching, you know, some prelim features, qualifying prelim features,
and then a big show.
You know, Fairbury kind of does that, and I get why.
But, like, I like to see full programs.
Yes.
So that's why I like the bigger car count on a bigger track.
But, like, Fairbury does the Prairie Dirt Classic damn good.
I mean, the feature's awesome.
The track's awesome.
So can't hate on either.
But being that Eldora is what I grew up at, which is the king of big, late-model races,
like, it's hard for me to say that doesn't work well, because, I mean, I remember when
they got, what, 65 cars, I think, for a Dream once, because the format was two-day show,
and nobody came.
Then they changed it, and, you know, changed their format, made it bigger, and you get 100.
Dual features, I think, helps out, too.
I like that.
I mean, the pay was $100,000 to win, but second place was $20,000, and, like, it was $1,500 to start.
So, obviously, that all had to get revamped.
So that helps.
But, you know, not too big of a track.
Like, Eldora's a racy half-mile, right?
So I wouldn't want to see you try that old West Virginia Motor Speedway, you know,
something like that.
I think Port Royal's got a good formula.
They did it three days.
They did it two days originally, then went to three days for the Rumble by the River.
Now they're back to two days.
I'd like to see that go to three days, but it's kind of hard to do that with 55 cars, I get.
So there's a balance there.
But, yeah, I mean, Eldora's got me jaded.
So, yeah, dogs are snoring.
I literally drugged it.
I'll tell you, it sounds like me.
Melissa's looking at...
It sounds like I'm at home, and she's back in bed already.
Oh, ow.
I can't stand you.
Are they snoring?
Hell, yeah.
Next one, Brad Couser asks, will Mansfield get a high limit or World of Outlaw Race next season?
I think if they're going to get one, it's going to be Outlaws because they're already tied with the late models.
Yeah, they already got an Outlaw late model show.
And not a lot of room on the high limit schedule to add anything.
No, and with it coming out today, there's not.
I mean, they could squeeze it in there, but I would not be surprised to see a World Outlaw show there.
And I know the tracks in Ohio, besides Eldora, all the other tracks in Ohio that have an Outlaw show all had a meeting,
and Mansfield was in on that meeting, so I'm guessing if it's anything, it'll be an Outlaw show.
I would imagine you're right.
Next one, Ryan Harris asks, Dwayne, what's the max amount of races in a season you've completed?
101.
Holy crap.
So you did 100 that one year.
101.
101, probably.
We got really close last year.
I'm at 83 this year.
What were you at last year?
Close to 90-some?
I don't know.
Because I was at 81 last year.
I will say that year he did 100-plus.
He had to try.
Oh, yeah.
That didn't come naturally.
That was harder than I thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Getting to that 80s.
You've got to do a few doubles doing that.
Well, and rain outs and things like that.
Well, you've got to do a lot of mid-week stuff.
And we have mid-week stuff here, but not as much as we had for a while.
Some of them is coming back next year, like the Kalamazoo Clash.
I used to go to all the time.
It was during the middle of the week.
Sizzler used to be during the week.
It's still not during the week, but a couple of those shows are coming back.
Two years ago, we did a lot of mid-week stuff to get to that.
Well, the High Limits did their mid-week thing, so that made that easier.
Plus, a lot of it's Indiana and stuff.
But, yeah, that year you did 100.
You were trying.
It didn't come naturally.
Like, oh, I'm just going to go Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
It's not easy.
It was a lot of strategizing to get to it.
I always wanted to do it one year, and I did it once.
It could happen again.
I'm sure it's going to happen again.
It's exhausting, though.
Especially without taking hardly any time off work, too.
That's the worst part.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like Sunday nights.
Everybody thinks I'm taking all the time off work.
No, we're not.
No, it's sleeping two or three hours a night.
Yeah.
For months.
There were a few mid-week shows where you slept like four hours a night,
back-to-back-to-back.
Yeah.
And it's literally like you're leaving at like 4 o'clock or 3 o'clock,
getting to the races at like 7, depending on how far they are.
Yep.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Our buddy James Honeycutt asks,
Nicole, why does Elliott never go to races?
We know you run the cigar trailer when he has an event on the weekend.
James, thanks for noticing.
Yes, I do.
I run the show.
I tell him to go to the races.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know why.
He's getting old.
He's getting old and kind of old man-ish, and he wants to just like,
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I like going and hanging out with my buddies, like Devin and, you know,
my cousin Kenny and stuff.
So like if they're not racing, I don't like sprint cars.
I like watching sprint cars, but.
You don't specifically go to a sprint car race.
Yeah, like I'm not going to go to a random sprint car race.
That's because you're not cool.
Like I haven't been to Fremont for a sprint car race in 10 years.
I mean.
Is Fremont the one we went to?
Yeah, that was a long, long race that was a disaster.
Oh, my God.
Never again.
But it's nothing against Fremont.
I just like, I don't know as many people there.
I don't have anyone to hang out with and a hauler.
And yeah, I don't know.
So what he's saying is high society.
He's got to be in a hauler.
Did you hear that, James?
He can't be dirty.
Temperature control.
He's got to be staring at Devin's butt going, oh, Devin, I'm your car owner.
Thanks, buddy.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
That's definitely what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I don't, I don't know.
I just don't drive like four plus hours to races anymore.
I'm not good at driving at night.
I'm not like driving late at night.
I don't stay awake real well.
So Dwayne has a co-pilot that goes with him.
Not that he didn't go before.
I didn't when I had 101 races.
I don't do well for any sort of distance in a vehicle.
Yeah, like Eldora's the max.
Max for me is about three hours, and that's like stopping twice to get out and move around.
And this year, you fell asleep a lot of the trips home.
Yeah, because I had to work the next day.
And I have to use my brain.
You're the one that wanted to go.
I'm like, you.
You're the one that wanted to go.
Yeah, I just don't have a good racing buddy.
He's got a co-pilot.
Because Dwayne's got a sidekick now.
He doesn't need me anymore.
So it's actually Dwayne's fault.
Well, you can borrow him anytime you want.
So Elliot's in mourning because he misses his bestie.
Aw.
Aw.
Yeah.
I haven't rode.
Aw, Elliot, I knew you cared.
You should plan a girl's trip and just go.
I haven't rode to a race with Dwayne since you started dating Melissa.
Has it really been that long?
Yeah.
I know you guys have ended up at a race a few times when I wasn't there.
Mm-hmm.
Way to go, Melissa.
Yeah, Bruce probably feels the same way.
I said girlfriends ruin everything.
Yep.
Bruce gets after me because I move his seat.
Do you?
Yeah, because a dude lays down.
Yeah, that fucker.
Don't fucking listen to him.
He'll get you.
That fucker's disrespectful in the front seat, okay?
He lays down.
Jesus Christ.
And I always get in the back when he rides with us because he wouldn't fit in the back anyway.
No shit.
Anyway, so then James asks, for Melissa, when will Dwayne finally admit he's a big-time
late model fan?
He does it at home all the time.
He just did.
No, he didn't.
Yeah.
He loves late models.
I've always wanted to late model race.
But you're a big fan now because of me.
Yeah.
I've always liked late models.
And that was James?
Yes.
Always liked late models.
Shout out to Ashley.
Hey, Ashley.
James loves it.
Yeah, hi, Ashley.
Long time ago.
James loves that I love late models.
I went to my first World 100 when I was like 21 or 22.
Oh, my God.
That was like 70 years ago.
Yeah, right.
I know.
That was before they had motorized vehicles.
I know.
It was horse and buggies.
It was like a chariot race.
Yeah.
I went to my first one when I was like five.
That's probably the same time I went to my first.
Yeah, probably true.
You was probably there.
Probably about the same.
Yeah.
You ever saw the dumbasses on a blanket up by the fence in the front stretch before there
was a fence there?
That was my parents dragging my ass to a race.
I've seen one.
Billy Moyer about lap.
No, Jack Boggs.
I think that was my first one when he lapped like the whole field.
Yeah, that would have been like 95.
Do the math.
I know.
Yeah, so I was 25.
Want a calculator?
I said 21 or 22.
It looked like a beautiful mind there for a second.
Yeah.
You could see the algorithms.
I did that for a second.
I said 21 or 22, so I was close.
Man, I was in the motor home with Bobby Miller's doing Jack and Coke, drinking Jack and Coke
after the race of Bloom Quest.
Worst world wonder I ever went to.
Well, if I knew Bob like I did, what else was he probably doing while he was drinking?
Smoking a cigar.
Smoking a cigar.
Yeah, I saw him on his camper all the time.
100%.
Artful guy.
Miller Brothers Construction.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how I got to know Bloom Quest.
My first big race like that, hell, we hung out with him all weekend.
Then at Charlotte, he remembered that, and we went out drinking one night.
That was entertaining.
Had trouble keeping up with him, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then James says, also, I know y'all will do a good job on the podcast.
You can't be worse than the normal hosts.
Thanks, James.
With a laughing emoji.
I consider James and Ashley good friends now because they've seen how your parents interact.
And they keep coming back.
And they keep coming back to hang out with us.
They go hang out with his parents.
Yeah, at the dirt track, they were hanging out with them.
They must really enjoy it.
It must be very entertaining.
What was it?
Literally, they went up to my parents' campsite and get out of the car.
My parents weren't outside.
And they went to knock on the door.
And as they're going to knock on the door, they hear my mom go, you asshole.
And they're like, maybe we should knock.
Mom opens the door.
Oh, hey, how you guys doing?
Yeah, they met up with your mom and dad before they met up with us.
Yeah.
Well, that's because your mom and dad's cooler than you, Elliot.
I mean, I think that too.
And so is James.
Two of us can't be wrong.
Yeah.
I'm just surprised they keep coming back.
I know.
Your mom's not easy on your dad.
She's a pain in the ass.
I mean, you know, some people, like Melissa and I set with them on the hill, Elliot,
and hang out with them when they come.
I got reserve seats, babe.
We were giving Ashley a hard time when she was there this last time because there was weather coming in.
And Dwayne's like, you know, if it gets rained out and we leave now, we can make it to Illinois.
And we were all like, yeah.
And Ashley was looking at me, and she's like, no.
She's like, come on.
Yeah.
They're a good time, for sure.
They are.
Well, it's Duckpin Bullen with us.
Oh, that's right.
Get to hang out.
That room is so fun.
Isn't that sweet?
Isn't that so fun?
Oh, my gosh.
Bullseye Game Lounge with the Sure Shot Taft House.
Yes.
Hey, Andrew.
Yeah.
Mr. Riffle.
You would think we could have a Dirt Nerds party there.
You'd think the guy from Dirt Nerds would say, hey, let's have a fan party there, like in the off season.
You'd think.
But talk about party.
I would have no problem with that.
Who's going to come?
I'll come.
Okay.
There's one.
Bryce Dudes.
There's three.
Riley Van Hise.
All of our fans down in that area.
Oh, yeah.
Riley lives down there.
But our fans up here aren't going to drive two and a half hours.
We'll rent a bus.
We'll just pick everyone up.
We've got more fans than just up here.
We've got Southern Ohio fans.
I bet you Bad Cows are on this list from Paulding.
And then my other question is, when do you do it?
Because there's no fucking off season anymore.
Not for Dwayne Hancock.
No shit.
That's right.
Somebody asked me the other day if we were just about done for the year.
I'm like, yeah, because the year's almost over.
Not because there's not places to go.
Then the new year starts.
And here we go.
Because we'll have the Dome coming up.
PRI will be coming up.
And then we'll be into Christmas and the Rumble.
The Rumble.
And then Chili Bowl.
Rumble before Christmas is here.
Yeah.
And then the Chili Bowl.
February is about the only month of the year that we get about a month off.
And now it's better because the late model shit doesn't start until, you know,
the week of Valentine's Day at Volusia and go after.
Ooh, Valentine's Day.
Are we going to be in Florida?
Yes.
During that?
Yes.
Is that what we're going to do for Valentine's Day this year?
You don't have to.
Are you going?
My dad wants to.
So I assume.
I'll go.
I want to go to Volusia.
I haven't been there since they redid the whole place.
I want to go to anywhere but Volusia.
I know.
That's my thing.
I've been to Volusia more than anywhere else.
But I'll go.
It'll be fun.
Where do you want to go?
All Tech.
That's a big eye roll Volusia.
I want to go to Bubba's too.
Yeah, I haven't been there either.
Ocala.
It was at East Bay.
One track he never got to that I got to.
Yeah, I wanted to go bad.
A couple times.
We just couldn't make it happen.
That's right.
Come with us in February.
There you go.
Yeah.
Come to Disney with us for the day.
Yeah.
Duane.
There you go.
I like Disney.
You can hang out.
IMS is the most wonderful place in the world.
Overrated.
Bullshit.
You can't see the whole fucking track.
It's the most obnoxious place to watch a race.
I don't even know if it's one of the top ten tracks to be honest.
I mean, it's got history but the racing is beautiful.
Do you want to walk home?
I drove and I got the car keys.
Suck it, Trebek.
I'll hold him down.
You get the car keys.
I got my spider monkey.
Last comment.
It's kind of a question but the Toyota driver urinal ice chip
eater Chris Plummer asks,
why does this show stink so bad and why do I listen to it?
Because you're special, Chris.
Because you're from Georgia and you ain't that smart.
Too many ice cubes.
Too many ice cubes out of the urinals.
That's from Duane.
What did he do?
He drove the ice all the way over here.
Yeah, it went over there.
He drives a Toyota and he eats too many ice chips out of the
urinals.
He drives a Toyota and he eats too many ice chips out of the
urinals in Indiana, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean.
We're nice to our fans.
See?
Except for the ones from Indiana.
I have a few questions too because we got one of our main fans.
Go for it.
It's Bard from Facebook.
Surprise there.
Right now.
Probably got in jail.
Facebook jail.
Facebook jail.
So this one's for ladies.
Here's the first question.
Why, ladies?
What do you see in these two knuckleheads?
That's a great question.
Oh, that's from Matt Swander, by the way.
Radio silence?
Um.
Hmm.
Geez.
There's a lot of good qualities they see in us.
Yeah.
Right off the bat.
Duane's funny.
Funny looking.
He is funny looking too.
But he's funny.
I mean, we laugh a lot about a lot of silly stuff.
So I would say just because he's entertaining.
Not your charming good looks.
I don't.
Yeah.
I don't.
I mean.
Not because you're rich.
No.
She's not a gold digger.
Despite some of the accusations that have happened.
It is not.
Yes.
It's not.
I did not get with him for his money.
No, it's because he's a group.
Figured out over there.
It's because I'm a groupie.
It's because I'm a groupie.
It's because I'm a groupie.
He's choking on ice plumber.
Shop plumber.
That's true.
Might get a message on that one.
Yeah.
Also, you didn't marry him.
Don't think of that.
You're not with him because of his money.
Because he doesn't have any.
Doesn't really have any.
Yeah.
No.
Broke as a joke.
It's all right.
See that nice Napa building?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The building's nice.
Too bad not all that's in your pocket yet.
Yeah.
No shit.
Somebody's like.
Man.
I said, I'd just be happy to win a million.
Then after taxes, I'd break even in life.
Yeah.
No shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No shit.
No shit.
Yeah.
No shit.
Everything would be paid off.
Yeah.
And we're also not independently wealthy.
And that's why we race all the time.
That's literally what we do with our time.
It's not like we have other things we do.
That's your hobby.
That's your fun.
That is our hobby.
Yeah.
And we travel along with it.
Yeah.
And do things while we're traveling to races.
Yeah.
They've seen the world's largest ball of twine.
Yeah.
And all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
And the world's largest pitchfork.
The biggest, littlest town.
Yeah.
Rocking chair.
I don't know.
Having a pie.
Yeah.
That was good.
Been to a lot of flea markets.
We've been to the Silent Hill town.
Oh yeah.
That's right.
You guys went there.
Yeah.
I went to Centralia.
Duane got out of taking me to Mount Airy this year, but that will happen next year.
So we'll see.
And you haven't gone on any death hikes through the Catskills or anything lately, right?
I go to those by myself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My fat ass.
Unless there's race cars.
I can walk 10 miles if there's race cars.
Yes.
You need motivation.
Yeah.
I said just trees and bugs and spiders and squirrels and shit.
Who wants to see that?
I'm with you, Duane.
You don't see squirrels very often when you hike.
Well, see, there's another reason.
Non-Appalachians.
I like squirrels.
Another reason not to go.
I like squirrels.
Yeah.
There's no monkeys.
I like monkeys.
I like squirrels.
I need you to hike because I can outrun you.
And there's no lions to chase them.
Yeah.
I like lions.
I want a pet lion.
If I win the lottery, I want a pet lion.
And she told me no.
You'll be Lion King, not Tiger King.
Yeah.
You don't clean the litter boxes.
How do you know you can't have a lion?
I don't have a lion.
So how do you know I wouldn't clean the litter box?
What?
Teach him to use the toilet?
Jinxy.
Call him Jinxy.
Jinxy.
Yeah.
Anyway, honey.
I got thumbs fucked.
What's so great about me?
Can't wait to hear this.
Nothing.
She's getting paid for a science project.
Wait.
Read the question again.
I want to know why.
Why, ladies?
What do you see in these two knuckleheads?
You're not legally blind, so you can't use that excuse.
You're not legally blind, so you can't use that excuse.
You're not legally blind, so you can't use that excuse.
You're not legally blind, so you can't use that excuse.
That's true.
I don't know.
He's pretty ambitious.
He likes to try new things.
You know, this podcast has been going for how long now?
And then the stinking trailer we got sitting out in the driveway.
So it's kind of fun.
Like, he likes to try some cool stuff.
Don't let her finish.
She doesn't find it fun.
I'm ready for that damn thing to get put away for the winter, though.
I'm up to my...
That trailer is pretty dope, though.
It's awesome.
It's cool.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We get a lot of good feedback.
Just tired.
That trailer is pretty dope, though.
It's awesome.
We get a lot of good feedback on it, but I'm just tired.
I'm just tired.
Blame Andrew.
It should have been two weeks ago and it would have been in storage.
As much smack as he talks on this and, like, I'm a badass-er.
I am.
He's got a very gentle, soft heart.
We all know he's not a badass.
You're not either.
Yeah, he's-
Not kidding.
Look at all the teddy bears we got ourselves here, Melissa.
Not kidding.
Shit.
He's kind.
He's, you know, if you guys could see him with our nieces and nephew, it's a whole other
element.
Yeah, that's why he is with the grandkids, too.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, Melissa didn't know that you could do other things besides go to races when you
go to the races.
Really?
Because you never did that.
See, when I go to a race, I've always done it, like, when I see, oh, that looks cool.
Okay.
And if we've got time.
Yeah.
And I've always done that.
I eat at local places.
I've done that even before I owned a small business.
Like, I want to eat at locally owned places, off the wall, and just see all kinds of things.
And we've always done that.
You know, yeah, you go to go to the races, but there's so many other things you can experience,
especially in these small towns that races are in, that I think just makes the experience
a lot better, too.
And you get to meet cool people.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I went by myself, decided to take the day off and go.
Went there, and you pull into this little town, and it was cool.
There's, like, four bars that are open in Unita, and they're all on a river.
But in any one, I went into two of them, and they look like you're in your grandma or aunt's
kitchen.
I mean, they don't look like a bar, and they all knew you was an outsider as soon as you
walk in, because everybody's, oh, where are you?
But, you know, and we've met a lot of neat people that way.
Yeah.
We met some Canadians this year.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Hey.
Yeah.
She gets a crack out of, you know, she's gone to Eldora with me a bunch, the four-crown,
and people come up and know me somehow because of Dirt Nerds, and she's, like, amazed that
people know who I am.
People will yell.
And I don't even, like.
Dirt Nerds!
Like, you go, and I'm, like, all the time.
And I don't, like, care that much.
I'm just, like, yeah, whatever.
Like, it's just normal.
And, you know, most of them are just regular race fans, talk to.
The two dudes, the Bacon Bits, two bacon guys, they came up.
They were awesome.
They were coming up to me.
They came up to me.
Fred and George.
Yeah.
Bill and Ted.
And Nicole's thinking, like, oh, shit, who are these guys?
Like, ready to fight because that's her.
I'm always ready to fight.
And they were, like, super nice and said, oh, yeah, we see Dwayne, and we're, like,
he doesn't know who we are.
I've forgotten who they are, so I apologize, guys, but, yeah, we meet a lot of cool, I
can't remember his name.
Shit, I feel so bad.
The kid from California.
Oh, yeah.
We met.
Oh, he was so nice.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, I feel bad.
What was his name?
Derek?
I don't think so.
I thought it was a P, started with a P, but he was from California, came out to the, I
don't know if it was the Royal, or what, you were with me, though.
I was.
It was the four crown.
It might have been, it must have been the four crown.
I think it was the four crown.
But, yeah, I mean, just crazy.
Well, just like Tommy.
I'll show you people.
Just like Tommy, that, you know, he races, and we met him, I've seen him a couple times.
He sat with us.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he'd love to run a sprint car.
Who's that kid that was, he was helping one of the teams there at Mount Pillier?
Oh, helping Dustin Engel?
That's-
Wolfie.
Wolfie.
Wolfie.
Yeah.
He is a nice kid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't met Wolfie.
I've heard good things.
Yeah, he's a nice kid.
Yeah, he is.
He's been, well, you'd like him even more, because he skipped the dirt track to go to
the IMSA race.
Yes, you did.
At Indy, so.
But, because he got given tickets.
Yeah.
You put that out there.
That's okay.
Well, I mean, that's basically how we met.
Honeycut.
Yeah.
Armstrong.
And Armstrong, I mean, well, I was at Charlotte, and Honeycut, I seen this guy looking, and
he goes, hey, are you Dwayne?
You know, and met me in the grandstands that time, and that's how we got to know them.
Yeah, Armstrong.
Kyle.
Kyle.
Kyle.
Works for Simpson now.
Yeah.
And a lot of different people.
I mean.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's pretty cool.
What else?
Did he have another question?
Oh, yeah.
He's like, Nicole, this one's for you.
Oh, God.
Do you like Otis or Elliot better?
Otis.
I knew that answer.
That was easy.
Wow.
I mean, everybody likes Otis better than you.
I like Otis better than you, but he just can't run the damn board.
It's funny, because I've heard, I forget who I was talking to, and like, they're like,
oh, yeah, your podcast, you know, and like the dogs, and I'm like, you know, it's annoying
to me when they're making noise.
I think it's hilarious.
Yeah, people love it.
And it's like.
I love when I'm sitting out here, and Otis will go running up the hall and just headbutt
the door to the office.
Remember that night we were out here talking, you're like, in about three seconds, he's
going to break that door down.
Yeah, there's two more that got sent to me.
He just stepped like totes in front of the door.
He had like the six inch punch and just went right through the door.
Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck, man.
I'm sure Melissa will chime in on this one.
Says Ken, that is.
Ken Bob?
Yep, Ken Bob.
Met him through there.
He wants to know, Dwayne, why have you started attending more taxi cab, super late mile races
instead of sprint cars over the past few years?
Because that's better.
It's a better show.
Not all the time.
Most of the time.
Not all the time.
Some of us were racing.
We get a lot of wing racing around here, so it's something different.
Yeah, and I've always went to late mile races.
I mean, I've always liked, well, the old ALMS days.
Chris Patterson.
Elder, Paxton.
Yeah, Jeep V and Wormer.
Chase Bolt.
Yeah, I always liked Chris Patterson.
Heck, I went up to Michigan, you know, and places watched him race before.
Guys like that.
And always Eldora.
So, I mean, not always to the World 100, but a lot of the shows like Johnny Appleseed
and stuff like that.
So, I've went.
Well, the Appleseed back in the day, I'm sure you went to because it was with all-star sprint
cars in October.
Yes.
I remember those days.
So, as some of you...
Well, on a 4-con when it first started.
Yeah, it was USAC late miles.
Yeah, USAC late miles.
When the USAC 4-con first started, that was late miles.
So, as some of you is newer to dirt racing, obviously, you know, I'm from Indiana, so
I followed different cars.
Wasn't it more polarizing in the past?
Like, it was...
You were either sprint car fan or you were late model fan.
Oh, yeah.
It wasn't.
But now, it's a lot more mingling.
Like, I feel like you see a lot of that crossover.
Well, and I think Kyle Larson did huge for that in the last five years.
Larson.
Now, you got like Ricky Thornton Jr.
Yeah, yeah.
You got McCready ran some midgets, didn't you?
McCready did.
He won the Chili Bowl one year.
Stewart, I think, maybe started a little with Tony Stewart.
A little bit.
But Larson really hammered it home.
Oh, yeah.
That 2020 year did a huge, huge service to it.
Well, it brought a lot of sprint...
Well, and I think it woke some sprint car people up because there was diehard sprint
car fans.
I ain't going across the street to watch that shit.
Yeah.
And there's still some that way.
Oh, yeah.
But then they go like, oh, wow.
I mean, I've talked to...
I got a friend.
He's in between you and I's age.
He's like, dude, you should go to a late-mile race sometime.
I said, if you want a good one.
He's like, well, I've been to Oceania.
Like I said, a good one.
Right.
He's like, oh, I don't want to watch that shit.
It's so boring.
I'm like, dude, a good late-mile race is...
I mean, anybody...
Go to Fairbury.
If you're questioning it, go to Fairbury.
Oh, yeah.
There's one more from Melissa, too.
Back from Matt Saunders.
PS, Melissa.
IndyCar sucks worse than Barry Braun's promoted events.
I'm not going to take the opinion of somebody who chose
the worst track on the schedule to go to an IndyCar race.
Your argument is invalid.
You're invalid, Saunders.
Well, I still love you, Matt.
Then Jeff Cooley.
There's another original listener for years.
Hope you're doing good, Jeff.
I know your house has been sucky lately.
One of these days, I'm going to get out there.
Out where?
Nebraska.
We was there for one day.
I was going to say we were in Nebraska.
But not his home.
They have midgets.
That's Eagle, right?
There's a midget race that comes through.
Yes, yes.
Memorialed for his dad.
Yes.
Tell me there's not a more entertaining race than a bunch
of Hornets, though.
I mean, come on.
Those dudes are hilarious.
I want to race one.
Have you ever sat and watched a Hornet race?
The bang bangers?
Oh, my God.
They're so funny.
They're funny.
They're awesome.
Like in Montpelier, they're awesome.
But I want one because I want to be that guy that starts last
like some of those guys and he just never lets off and comes
through the field and pisses everybody off.
I'm going to be the guy on the chip all the time and I'm going
to make a hole like some of those guys.
I mean, I'm going to tear a lot of shit up, but I'm going to
make a hole.
Do you have a question?
Yes.
There's one more.
Jeff Cooley has one.
Listeners can't think of your names.
Well, it's not really a question.
What kind is or the podcast name?
Does it bother you when someone says, oh, the fat boys are
reply immediately.
Oh, you're talking about the dirt.
No, we do that, too.
Yeah, they're correct.
Does that make me messed up for being associated with you guys?
Yeah, you're messed up.
Jeff.
Send you a message.
The fact that he admitted it.
Oh, I love her.
Hi, Bev.
Mama Bev says, have fun recording with the ladies tonight.
Grammy.
We love Grammy.
I call her mom.
I said, thanks, mom.
We will.
I thought we'd get a few more questions of people trying to
figure out dirt on us.
Because I always get people like, oh, we're going to listen
to Melissa and she's going to give us a lot of dirt.
You can private message Melissa and I.
We're happy to answer any questions.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know if it's really dirt and I don't know if
I've ever told anybody, but Dwayne literally has every race
that he's ever gone to written down.
Not every race.
Only since 1988 or something.
Before I was born.
Anyway.
And not very long after I was born.
Whatever.
But he does.
He has them all written down.
That's because.
And he will go.
Like, if he's thinking of one.
I can't remember.
Yeah, he can't remember the details, but he knows in his
mind when it is.
That's the first thing he'll do when we get home is he'll go in
and he'll look it up.
He's like, yep, I was right.
It was.
See, and that must be.
That must be why you guys get along.
You're like Rain Man with shit like that, Elliot.
So is Dwayne.
Like he remembers the date, the year.
He won the race.
He's got me beat, though.
I can go back and look and I can remember it just by looking
at the results.
I can usually.
Oh, yeah, that's the time.
He'll say, well, we saw him race here.
I'm like, oh, OK.
Yeah.
So that's something started when I was young because Uncle Dave,
he's like, that's something he's like.
Well, do you.
Because he did it.
He's like, well, then you can see that.
And he's like, you'll know.
You'll remember.
And so him and I kind of started as a contest way back then of
what is how that started.
Yeah.
And he's got them.
And then I started making lists of tracks and then mom and dad
won because I started going when I was a year and a half old.
They're like, OK, we've been here, here, here, here, here.
I do that.
That's cool.
Yeah, I do that.
But I'd say I know, like, Michael Rigsby from Dirt on Dirt.
He's probably got us both beat.
Oh, yeah.
Dirt nerd side of the world.
He, I believe he collected every pit pass he's ever gotten.
Nice.
And, you know, he's Illinois guy and how many tracks.
But obviously with Dirt on Dirt, it's gone even more.
But I remember they did a tour of his basement studio and he
has like a binder he made.
And it's got every, like, pit pass.
I think it's every pit pass if I remember correctly.
So it's like, yeah, he's got.
Man's scrapbooking.
I couldn't even tell you how many tracks I've been to.
Like, I've never kept track.
I can't.
Yeah, I kept track.
You know, I would have to go through the list.
Some of them aren't around anymore.
Like, yeah.
Well, yeah, that's what's up.
I was trying to think.
So there's a website.
Oh, yeah, because we can be on that.
Yeah, I think I'd be like 38 now, which my friend Jersey
Sprint met when he.
How many Dirt tracks?
When he was alive, he was on this website.
And he was always trying to get me to join it.
While some of our listeners, like I said, people coming up,
hey, they're like, where are you at on there?
Is Elliot on there, too?
You know, but I mean, there's people in the thousands.
Yeah, I've never.
I forget what it's called.
It's 800 short tracks across America.
Yeah, now.
I mean, at one time.
But yeah, you're talking.
Some have come and gone and all that, so.
I have a.
Yeah, here we go.
Track chaser dot com.
This is raceway.
I have a roaming the raceway.
A memory like a I don't know, like a shadow box thing that
you can you're supposed to be able to put stuff in it.
And I started keeping our pit passes and stuff last year.
We didn't even make it through the whole year.
And it was like coming out the top.
Really?
Yeah, that's so fun.
But yeah, it's chasing the raceways dot com.
And it actually have all time chasers.
So the top person, it'll tell you if they're alive or dead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That person is Guy Smith from effort.
P.A.
He's been to nineteen hundred and twenty six tracks.
Imagine that.
Yeah.
We're with two hundred rank.
Where are you at right now?
Yeah.
So I wouldn't even be.
So two or one.
What I'm at would be.
Two or one.
Tied for one hundred and thirty six.
And I'm barely on the list.
And there's drivers on here.
I remember drivers who.
Oh, yeah.
There's some drivers on here.
Like Kyle Larson's one hundred and twenty fifth right now.
At two hundred and eleven.
I don't know.
What is it?
McCready.
Yeah.
Q.
Bread.
Sweet.
Yeah.
Billy Moore.
Tyler Courtney's on there.
Yeah.
We'll see some people.
Kinzer's are probably.
Yeah.
God knows how many.
Sammy.
Sammy is forty six.
Ken Schrader.
I just saw.
Yeah.
I'm still alive.
And Gordon Killian.
The second.
He's at sixteen hundred and twelve.
Trying to think.
Yeah.
That's like every form of racing possible.
So Bruce.
Bruce Echol.
Mm hmm.
And his wife Pat.
I see them all the time.
They're fifteenth and sixteenth.
They're from Crawford.
Crawfordsville, Indiana.
Nine.
Twenty eight.
Nine.
Twenty five.
I see them all the time.
Roger Farrell.
I don't know if you remember him.
I.
I see him all the time.
He's at Montpelier.
He used to work right for Mark Times when it was a.
Okay.
Deal.
He's at seven ninety six.
So there's people.
Wow.
From our area.
Yeah.
I'm definitely not high on that list I would imagine.
But.
Yeah.
So I would be like a hundred and whatever I said.
Thirty something.
Because like what?
East Bay and I seventy nine speedway.
But you know I went there as a kid a few times.
Yeah.
Mansfield wasn't there.
Now you know that was gone forever.
Well I had a villa.
You know.
A villa.
I loved a villa.
Did you ever go to McCutcheonville?
Nope.
Nope.
Yeah.
I was never.
That was gone before my time too.
So.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
There's a lot of them out there.
So.
Nicole we'll start your list here soon and we'll start getting every track.
How about that?
There you go.
Within a couple hours.
Oh yeah.
There we go.
Yeah.
I'm not a fun sucker.
Just so everyone knows.
I'm not.
Yeah.
Elliot don't want to leave the house.
I'm sure.
Yes.
I'll stay home on my own accord.
Like.
For sure.
It's not that I'm.
It got to the point.
He had a few years there where he was gone every week.
Yeah.
When I was writing.
Every Friday.
Every Saturday.
Every Sunday.
Great.
And then when he stopped doing that.
I would look at him and be like why are you here?
You're ruining my.
That's right.
My routine.
You need to leave.
You're ruining my life.
We're okay now.
It's good now.
Yeah.
It's fine.
It was fine.
It's just.
You know.
Especially when I was doing pictures and stuff.
That was just one of those things you got to realize.
Oh.
These guys have a passion for it.
I don't mind doing it.
But I'm not like.
Me neither.
He's an engineer.
You don't work during the day.
So he had to do something.
Yeah.
Well I think too.
We kind of got to a point where.
We have a.
We're busy with.
Nieces and nephew schedules.
Like.
Choir concerts.
Band concerts.
Well they're only going to be young once.
Cheerleading.
Marching bands.
Soccer.
You know.
Whatever they do.
And so.
He missed some of that.
Yeah.
Along the way.
I went to Monster Mash.
Because we had a football game that night.
Yeah.
I could have went to Monster Mash.
But I just.
Eh.
I'll go to the football game.
For our last home game.
And.
You could have went on Saturday.
No.
We had an event Saturday.
Oh yeah.
That's right.
With the trailer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah Dwayne.
Or something.
I don't remember what we had.
But yeah.
It was just like.
Yeah.
I think it was when you had that one.
I took a few L's this year.
And stayed home when he didn't.
Yeah.
I took your advice.
You were like.
Because there were a few nights.
I was just like man.
It's just been a rough week.
Like.
He's just going to a regular show somewhere.
It's nothing fancy.
I'll stay home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just.
I don't know.
I've been to a lot of races over the years.
And.
Like I said.
I value hanging out with my buddies.
And.
Going where I know people.
And.
That's.
Why I have fun doing.
So I don't.
You know.
Like Dwayne used to go to races.
When he did that 100 race.
He would go just sit in the stands by himself.
Now it's Dwayne.
So he usually knows somebody.
Right.
But like.
Right.
I couldn't.
I wouldn't want to go to.
I think I still do that.
I mean.
How many times we go to I-96.
And I would go take pictures.
Right.
And I would meet you after the.
Races.
That night.
Or whatever.
Come watch the other features with you.
And just go.
I've just been sitting here by myself all night.
And I'm like.
I wouldn't want to do that.
You know.
It's okay.
We don't care.
I don't mind it.
Sometimes it's the only free time I get.
Yeah.
Sitting with all your friends huh.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's the only free time.
But.
I've been in business.
And said.
Well.
If business goes well.
I can contribute to racing in different ways.
Is it going well?
Because I haven't been paid yet.
Yeah.
You get paid.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
What are you saying it's only free time you get.
Now that you're not.
Now that you're not.
No.
I mean.
I mean.
The consummate.
Excluding yourself.
No.
Well.
I mean.
You've seen how much my phone blows up all the time.
Sometimes.
Do you know what he said the other day.
Actually.
I think it was yesterday.
I said.
I'm still leaving.
Because he's like.
Well.
You don't even go.
Down to work once a month.
Like you.
Like you said.
That you were going to do when you first came.
I was like.
Yeah.
Because I don't have to.
I suppose I'm going to be gone for 45 days.
I said.
Yeah.
Because that's still not 12 weeks.
I'm getting screwed.
I need my time.
Yeah.
I guess.
One week a month.
Yes.
That's probably.
I still have 12 weeks total.
Wait.
Are you 45 days straight.
Like you're not going to come.
No.
The domes in between there.
Oh.
Okay.
So.
Yeah.
Does any race fans want to come see you?
Oh yeah.
At your venture?
They should.
Yeah.
Plug it.
Plug it.
So I saw Bobby Pierce's mom and Abby last year.
They stopped by the booth I was in.
And Abby's like.
Nice hat.
Because I had a Bobby Pierce hat on.
Oh.
That's perfect.
And I was like.
Wait.
Wait a minute.
How do I know you?
It was like.
When she said who she was.
I was like.
Dang it.
I knew I should have known her.
So where did you see them at?
What was this thing called?
At the Chris Kendall Market in Carmel, Indiana.
It starts I think the 22nd of November and runs to Christmas Eve.
But it is.
It's a big deal.
In Carmel.
It is.
It was number one in the United States for like four years running.
You've got to see some IndyCar drivers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw David Maloukas last year.
Flagged him out.
Yeah.
It's fun.
It's a good time.
It's only a two and a half hour drive from where we live.
So it's.
You know.
It's not a bad drive.
But.
Yeah.
Excellent food.
Don't go on Saturday.
Where do you normally work?
I'm in the cuckoo clocks.
You're still over there?
Yeah.
All right.
Explains a lot.
Yeah.
Not the cuckoo bin.
Cuckoo clocks.
Yeah.
I'm usually in the clocks.
The problem is each year she brings one home.
So.
She's got them set at different times.
So one will go off.
Cuckoo.
Cuckoo.
And then a minute later.
Cuckoo.
Cuckoo.
Yeah.
Sure do.
Those are.
Those are some intricate.
Beautiful.
Cuckoo clocks.
They are amazing.
I think the most expensive one we had last year was like $4,200.
Wow.
Yeah.
And we sold two of them in the same day.
Holy moly.
Yeah.
Elliot probably bought it.
Carmel, Indiana, man.
Yeah.
That's the kind of people.
Yep.
And it's true.
Is that where we went to Topgolf?
Oh, Fisher's.
Fisher's.
That's right by where I work.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You met us, huh?
Pretty much the same town though.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
They all connect anyway.
You don't notice that when you're in one or the other.
But it's the whole rich area of Indianapolis pretty much.
Yeah.
I think it's like downtown Carmel at their big-
Yeah.
It's Carter Green down there.
Big city building, which is beautiful and the whole town's perfectly kept and everything.
Oh yeah.
They play music and there's fires, fire pits going.
Yeah.
Ice skating.
If you want to see Melissa-
Yeah.
They have those igloos and all kinds of neat stuff.
If you want to see Melissa over the holidays, go to the Kindle Market in Carmel.
Yeah.
Go to the cuckoo clocks.
I'm wearing probably late model clothes.
Because I think the only ones I have that are winter are the late ... I have the Christmas
ones from the Dome.
Gotcha.
They want us to wear Christmas stuff.
I'm like, well, this counts.
Yeah.
Right.
There you go.
Yes.
We'll be at the Dome.
Yeah.
And the Rumble.
Yeah.
I'm not going to the Rumble.
With them changing the time, I'll still be at the market.
Oh yeah.
That's right.
That's what happens.
What'd they change it to?
They removed the Rumble before Christmas.
19th and 20th.
Instead of after?
Yeah.
Because of the way New Year's falls.
So the Rumble, the day I went home from the market, I went to the Rumble.
Okay.
I went directly from one to the other.
I see Babs posted something about their final race on the 15th just a few minutes ago.
Just that they're having it?
10 grand to win.
There you go.
Four 10s.
And the 358 mods.
Then a big car and a small car enduro afterwards.
There you go.
I've been to that before.
I went there and back in the same day one time.
I remember.
Wasn't my smartest move, but I did it.
Are they out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're out.
Well, we're boring the dogs.
Anything else you ladies want to put out there in the world to all three listeners that we
have?
All three.
No.
Anything?
You don't want to get any more slain.
They're pretty.
They're pretty.
They're pretty.
They're pretty.
They're pretty.
They're pretty.
You don't want to get any more sleep.
They're pretty transparent.
We would never sleep.
You guys.
Yeah.
Bullshit.
We're going to do a private podcast after this.
Yeah.
The after show.
Yeah.
We'll do an after show.
Send me your real questions.
We think that this needs to happen like two times a year.
Wow.
I think we have enough to say.
That is up to you guys because you don't fucking sit still long enough to do it.
So that's what Nicole would be like.
We need to do that.
That episode with Melissa.
We need to do that.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
We need to do it.
That is up to you guys.
So that's what Nicole would be like.
We need to do that.
That episode with Melissa, too.
Yeah.
And I'm like tell them to quit fucking going places.
Well, Dwayne…
He's like you need to sit still first.
Dwayne goes well Ellie wants to know when you want to do this.
I'm like well it kind of has to be…
In the next two weeks.
…Either next Monday or the Monday after because I leave on the next Wednesday.
Yeah.
And I won't be back.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
We need to do it.
We'll do it more than once or so but yeah we got Christmas coming up.
We're going to go to every other week I think after next week because World Finals.
Yeah.
We'll have some stuff to talk about there.
Should be a lot of announcements.
Yeah.
Usually there is.
Word of Outlaw schedules will probably be out soon I would imagine.
I would think.
Usually around that.
So, yeah.
We'll see what it brings but I guess that'll wrap us up tonight.
So, as always, we'll see you next time.
Stay dirty.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
About this episode
Dwayne and his guests, including his wife Nicole and friend Melissa, dive into a lighthearted discussion about racing, life, and the upcoming High Limits schedule. They share personal anecdotes, sponsor shoutouts, and a mix of racing news, including insights on recent events like the Short Track Nationals and National 100. The episode features playful banter, fan questions, and reflections on the racing community, all while navigating the chaos of dogs and kitchen sounds in the background. It's a fun and engaging episode for anyone interested in the dirt racing scene.
Original notes
This week we welcome Elliott's wife Nicole and Duane's girlfriend Melissa to help us answer fan questions! We also talk about the release of the High Limits schedule and some results from events that happened over the weekend.
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