Episode 383 - World Finals Wrap Up

Hello everybody. Hello. Hope you're all doing swell on this fine one day. Boy, we're

90. We're just well. We're a thawing out over here in Northwest Ohio. We got like three inches of

friggin' snow, Sunday, night into Sunday. It's just us. Hate to disappoint our fans, which is just us. Yeah. No women. Yeah, sorry. Didn't. So it'll be better, in other words, than last week, but that's besides the point.

Yeah, but yeah, it's Dwayne pulled up to my house today and asked if we were running a lumber operation. I had a nice pile of branches at the curb. I'm

really hoping the village still does their woodchipper pick up in November, but I'm not the only one in my small town that's had that issue. So I think they're going to have

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Drill a little bit and crave their pizza like I was until this Friday because I was down at the sure shot tap house.

Whoa, which is just down the road you left the house in downtown Greenville.

I was at the sure shot tap house with Emerson cigar lounge to Chris and their opening weekend of their barrel den.

That's finally open. Yes, finally open. It's got self poor bourbons. I say whiskey, but mostly bourbons and wines in there.

So a lot of ladies enjoying the self poor technology for the wine side of things.

But I got wine. Did you have? I did not. I had a 707 poor. So I don't know the first damn thing about wine. So, but there's beer. That would be in the smart bar.

Oh, yes, that's that's some basic shit. The real shit is in the brittle down yet. I think you had Willa Green, Willa Red, which is what I had.

He had Eagle Rare, which he probably ran out of by the end of Friday because he didn't have as many bottles.

But I know he's got a blends woodford reserve. What was the other? He had some EH Taylor. He's constantly going to be keeping trying to keep it replenished with some of those higher end.

Boos that are harder to find, but, you know, he's been saving up for a while and I know that Eagle Rare was hard to get. So he's probably out of that by now.

But it sounded like he had a good weekend overall costs just a little bit more. Yeah. It's not as much as you think because in Ohio, you can't mark up boos. It all comes from the state.

So everything's bought MSRP at least. So I'd say his prices per pour are right near the market of anything else you would find.

It's hard to find. It's hard to find this shit in the first place. Some of it obviously right here. Woodford Reserve and Green Weller and all that.

That's their all day every day nowadays and Buffalo Trace. Yeah, that as well.

But yeah, he's going to probably be rotating a little bit in and out as he can get some stuff here and there.

But it takes the same port card that the wall takes for the beer tap. So it works out real nice.

Same deal. Just put a little hand on this one's a little different. There's a slot you put it into. It's not a little holder.

But then you just go down and press for whiskey easy and one ounce two ounce pour.

One guy next to me pressed it and didn't have his glass under there. So he donated money pretty much at that point. But yeah, I didn't have a problem.

I got my antique 107 pour just fine. So he's even got big cubes in there. Throw one of those in your glass.

But a really cool really cool thing and very popular. I would say opening weekend. So excellent.

But I got to have a few beers off the self-poor wall. Got to have some of the whistle stop pizza and a little bit of

whiskey to go along with everything. I just sling any cigars. I did. We were there selling some cigars and had the lounge with people hanging out.

It actually ended up. It was weird. The weather difference was crazy. It was actually really nice evening there.

The rain stopped a little later than here. I was still kind of wet and spots. But as far as temperature outside, it was actually pretty decent evening.

So worked out real well to have us there right next to the patio and people in the patio, people in the trailer, people inside.

It was a whole it was a whole hoot nanny. But yeah, if you didn't know, they got 46 self-poor taps on the wall for beer, a couple of ciders, usually a seltzer or anything from your domestic regular stuff.

Regular stuff. You all know and love to local stuff, seasonal stuff, IPAs, stouts, porters, all kinds of different things to pick from. It's a real good time to go check it out.

Charger by the ounce and then as well now with the bourbon den or barrel den. Sorry, I couldn't call it bourbon den. The barrel den with the wine and the whiskey also charged by the ounce.

You can get one or two ounces in the whiskeys. You can get one, two or five ounces, which would be a glass pour in the wines.

But yeah, really cool system. A lot of fun. Interactive. Great pizza, great food. Check it out. I had live music that night, so that was cool.

Guys did a really good job. I think it was more of a local band, so they have a little bit of following.

The place was packed though, so without real well, but sure shot tap house dot com is the website. And if you're there and you know, maybe want a little change of pace, you can head upstairs to the bullseye game lounge.

You got 24 K games for duck pin bowling lanes upstairs for you to enjoy as well. So good deal. All kinds of fun to be had at the old sure shot.

Yeah, she's there and like the scars and you want the trailer at your place for a party or business, get hold of Elliott at dirt nerds.

Where ever since the garlunch on Facebook and Instagram as well. Yeah, promote yourself to Elliott. Yeah, there you go.

Why don't you don't sell me cigars. I know. I'm not a good. We got to do your wife.

You got to do everything for that business. I swear. Yeah, she was babysitting this Friday too. See the owner's kid of all people.

Not not by choice. We got to start charging babysitting fees too. I guess with the trailer, but it's still fun time. So what a deal.

Let's just say we learned a lot about our friend Andrew from his six-year-old son that he maybe wouldn't have shared himself. Put it there.

You never know.

Can't let those kids run free.

Get some dirt on the interview. That's right. I get another winning poll tab. You get a free pizza here and there.

The tight-ass. He never gives a shit. No. I have paid for my own shit. I know.

It was fun sitting with them there because so he was there. He came sat with us while we're eating. Actually, his boy had a piece or two of our pizza.

He was like, here buddy, whatever. It was funny. But you know, everyone knows Andrew. So they know that he owns the place. So when something goes wrong, do you go to the wait staff and ask?

No, no. Andrew's sitting out. Hey, Andrew. Yeah. So he had to get up a couple times to. Let's get for him. Service some customers needs and issues.

He's doing anything else. Yeah. He is the fry bitch. Yeah. There's no frying.

And he lost his poor card once. Had to get a new poor card. Geez. Charge him doubles. What I'd say.

I wouldn't have found these poor cards just used it. I know. That's what I was thinking. I was like, damn, I should have wish I would have had that.

Maybe next time. Anyway. Yeah, I got to watch a speaking of the shirt shot in Scotland. I actually got to watch a little bit of Friday nights races at the world finals in the trailer.

As Andrew was nice enough to give me his log in to watch the world finals. So there you go. Yeah, I've watched it on and off.

And I saw the big block modified wreck. Just you saw a shot of the car than they cut away from it. Well, yeah. So I'm very nice.

Social media. He went on and okay, he was breathing. He was alert. You know, got transported for further evaluation. But yeah, I didn't know for sure there to start because it was a pretty gnarly one to look like.

I see his out of hospital head and home. He owns outlaw motor speedway in New York. That's Tyler Siri. I believe was his name.

So he has a concussion, some broken ribs. It's not like maybe his arm because it's something about checking for arm surgery.

But he said no neck or back injuries, but I know it was can cut. Oh, broken sternum, broken sternum, broken ribs, concussion. And it sounds like maybe a broken arm. Yikes.

That may need surgery. Yeah. Um, but results. Uh, what? Rico one night one. Yep. Then gravel one night, too. And then buddy. And then buddy. Cause I think David grab a head a little misfortune.

Saturday night, stuck in the fence, stuck in the fence and buddy had a lightning delay. Yes. That's right. Um, and that obviously the championship was already pretty much wrapped up. So Mr. David gravel will be your champion.

Donnie got a, Donnie got a podium one night. Um, a lot of high limit drivers. Rico had a good weekend. Donnie flipped in the last night. Yeah, Brent marks. I know it was up there for a couple of them. But, uh, yeah.

That buddy second and points. Two out all guys one. No, that's all I heard first night. Your buddy, um, Chaz. Mm hmm. Oh, they all are the high limits came invaded and blah, blah, blah, blah. God, uh, they steal it all. Yeah. So we go on one night. Yeah. Um, uh, late models. Hudson O'Neal. One on Thursday night with, uh, late race. Yeah.

I was like to say it was, uh, point six seconds, even Ruben missed it. He didn't see it. Yeah. Yeah. My dad was, uh, beating up on him pretty bad. A lot of people were. Yeah. I watched it. I was there. And I mean, he didn't even mention Hudson's name. He kept on talking about.

Bobby Pierce and, uh, Shepard. Yeah. Um, O'Neal pass. And he, uh, I sometimes when he's announced that I'm not sure what monitor he's watching. Yeah. I know. I'm not sure what he's watching. But, uh, he missed it. But anyways. Yeah. Honey, I did see that. Honey, one by, uh, I'm saying he was back. He was back point six of a second at the white flag. So I didn't always be able to get it. And then, uh, obviously, uh,

I came to the line side by side. And, uh, yeah, 10th of a second to claim his third victory for the word about law. That's the same winner of the second two nights. Same winner. Uh, yeah. I watched Friday night, because I think they went caution free. Both nights, maybe Friday and Saturday. I think, uh, but Friday was, yeah, it's kind of a snooze fast Jonathan Davenport just kind of started up front, stayed up front, Gonzo.

I didn't see this stuff from Saturday, but obviously 25,000 a win. Uh, new up higher, up to pay, we'll say, but, uh, yeah, Jonathan Davenport getting another big win to cap off the season. Yes. And, uh, the big blocks was there too. Yeah. Which, uh,

Sorry, I got that shepherd one Thursday, Alex Payne Friday and money, Matt Williams and on Saturday. Gotcha. Which I believe I gave once in the title for the second time to it, or I think it's the second. Yeah, and they raised for 15 grand. So,

when the season to now, like the sprint cars and late models, they do not those perks. Yeah, they should.

So he already had the title wrapped title clenched, but obviously you want $15,000 to go with it. Right. So, man, those guys get hammered hard.

It goes from 15 grand to 7,500 to 4,000. Fourth place is 2500. Second fifth place is 2000. So that kind of tells off pretty quick for those guys. That was more start though, 1000 to start. So, I know it's pretty good for those guys.

I don't think they get paid enough on the regular races to be honest. It's expensive as those cars are. And I can't believe that I think all three divisions would be the same to win. Yeah.

I kind of thought they would have been, but hey, I'm not world racing group.

We know usually coming out of world finals. There's a lot of announcements and news, but this year was very oddly quiet.

Really, it was all kind of silly season. Shit already happened. Yeah, a lot of it's already been going, but we know we'll an announcement was the

shark racing 1-8 team will be hitting the road full time next year with Ashton Torrelson as the driver and committing to an outlaw schedule, which not a surprise being that Logan and that teams already on the outlaws.

And also don't really know if you're not a charter member for high limits, how it really works. I'm sure these teams do, but I know we don't quite understand it.

So it's kind of hard. Seems like to join high limit. If you haven't been in it the last couple of years. So we saw the announcement today, just as we start recording.

According Carrie Madsen will be back with Tony Vermeer's team full time, which means Hunter Schirmberg will be out of a ride and they plan to follow a national series.

Either high limit or word of law is not committing yet as that was not law team last year. They maybe check in the sea, which one has most records.

Yeah. Okay.

Harsh.

Well, I mean, on the higher professional car recycler for your driver. I mean, Ty Wolfgang is the crew chief sounds like a lot of work.

Team will be moving to Pennsylvania, just outside of Port Royal Speedway, actually.

Hope their shops got a lot of spare as they're HQ instead of the Iowa base. It's traditionally had. So that's a little bit of a change.

Yeah, I would think they'd run outlaws. I would think. Yes.

Since they have and being based out of PA, that's more favorable for an outlaw schedule.

I would think there.

Well, I like stark racing. You know, some people like, well, they're separate before, but put some back together. Maybe some of the.

I know there's some issues there before. And Jacob was getting popular and you had to get his own T shirt trailer because.

Well, some deals with his half-sister or what? Yeah.

Maybe with Ash didn't run the car. Maybe with, you know, maybe with Bobby's passing to maybe the workoo together.

Everyone's getting along again or something. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Um, but yeah, nothing too crazy out of. No, which of the hunter, the madson deal, we kind of reported a couple of weeks ago. It sounded like they was going down one car.

For some reason, picking the madson. Yeah.

Sevens Hunter Sherenberg's looking for a ride. Well, then it was.

Was that? No, I think that was last Monday before we went on when they announced homes in the 13 car. Yes, we talked about that last week.

He looked like he had not much success this weekend.

And I think that's what you're going to get with him. He's going to be inconsistent like he has in the other ride, I think.

Well, and I, I mean, talk it up the first weekend together too. I mean, that's always.

Jason didn't do too bad in the 17. No, he had, he had some good, some good runs for sure.

Or somebody that didn't deserve the ride going to the 99% of the internet, you know, socks.

Didn't pretty good. Yeah. I, I hope he does excellent. I think you will.

I've always liked Spencer. Super nice people. And I hope he shuts a lot of people up, not sure. Yeah.

Otherwise, Clarksville race, their last race ever. Yeah, sucks. Another track.

A long time successful track as well. Yeah.

10 grand to win. I know. Yeah. CMC right got the win.

Yeah, it's pretty decent guys in that region there. Josh Putnam, Corey Hedgecock, Jay Frame, Jason Rigg, Sievers.

Yeah. Jason Mellsham was on board. Jensen Ford.

Yeah, a lot of the regional guy, the best of the region there.

Yeah, 28 cars on hand, but yeah, it's a bittersweet. Long time track.

I was going to go to last year, but it wasn't racing. Yeah.

The night we was in that area when I went to the Indycar race.

So the city is the city is buying the track for $7 million for a recreation complex.

So that's why it's going away. The city said we need recreation instead of a racetrack.

Now $7 million also hard to turn down for a racetrack owner. I mean, yeah.

The city better hope it brings in a lot of money because you know, racetracks bring in.

Yeah. I think people don't realize how much money a racetrack brings into a region.

Even for that runs local shows. I mean, because Clarksville don't run a lot of big shows, basically local shows.

But just the fans coming in just the gas stations to carry out the restaurants and stuff.

Yeah, I mean, I will push back on you a little bit about that because I know if you do recreation complexes,

you host tournaments and things like you'll get a shit out of people showing up.

So I don't know which one's better, but that's probably how the town sees it, right?

It's like, oh, we'll do little league tournaments and get 700 families in here three times a year.

And blah, blah, blah. I don't know. But yeah, it's bummer because it's always been a summer national date.

Always had the toilet bowl. You know, they always had a good footing for a track.

So yeah, please, I've been wanting to get to is kind of my radar, not anymore. I guess.

Yeah, won't be there. You can go watch some recreation. Sounds like in this place. But yeah.

Otherwise, Texas, there was some racing going on, a power I sprint cars into their season.

And they had some late models with them. So two classes each only had one winner on the weekend.

Aaron writes, so swept the sprint cars and Kate Dillard swept the late models.

Yeah, and I think the late models they had like 45 cars or something there.

Yeah, I seen there's some guys, you know, I seen some scottled butt about a few weeks ago.

Like, why is why they doing that against Charlotte?

And because you know, Shaefer said he was going there, Austin MacKarrow, a few of those guys announced.

But Charlotte still had 48 cars.

Yeah, you know, they didn't have 60 like usual, but why not?

When Charlotte had 70 late models. Yeah, you know.

Yeah, why not give these guys an option if they want to race somewhere else?

And power is power eyes championship, which, um,

Jen and got the championship 50k.

Yeah, uh, Dillard won both nights and knows like the fight finale of seven grand to win the finale.

But Terry Phillips, Morgan Bagley, you know, guys like that were there.

Um, something like it got, I don't surprise here.

Texas motor speedway, a little rubbered up.

Surprise there. So.

Yeah, and sprint cars, like said, writes on both nights and he's from Texas.

Yep.

Makes sense.

But, uh, yeah, Austin MacKarrow.

One of our guys, Sean Rae Hall, from up this way went down.

Brendan Crouch and his brother, which Texas people begin.

Yeah.

Um, uh, same favorite team.

Texas guy, Texas fellow.

Yeah. So I mean, they had some, uh,

had some decent talent there.

Yeah. And, uh, obviously going back to world finals.

I guess I forgot to formally mention, but Bobby Pierce being the world of outlaw late model champion.

I think he just had to start the features all three nights.

And then last three years.

And then, uh, I think after the opening night, Nick Hoffman

didn't quite finish and not high enough for it to be still that

close.

So, uh, it made a little easier.

Pierce clinched early.

Yeah.

Still a tight points battle for, you know,

what Pierce is, uh, Don in that series.

But I don't know.

Did he get penalized this year?

That was that last year.

That was last year because that's why he didn't end up with the title.

Yeah.

But then he almost come back and want it.

Yeah, he was close, I remember.

Uh, could it easily be three years in a row for him?

Yeah.

Um, but yeah, we're still waiting for word of outlaw schedules for both series.

Um, we know high limits is out there.

Any more thought or touch based on high limits stuff, Duane?

Yeah, not really.

Okay.

I know we talked about it last week.

We had ladies with us, but didn't know if anything else, uh,

came to mind for you.

Not really.

Um, I don't really have much.

I've talked about it.

I've 55.

What day race?

Uh, like that.

Like they call it the winter frost or something.

It's basically like the year-end UMP deal.

Got you.

Modifies late models.

Um, I know Kenny Wallace won the modifies Mike Harrison won the late models on Saturday.

Okay.

And Kenny Wallace won the modifies.

But just like a big year-end UMP deal.

Yeah.

I don't know if they're in features on Friday night or not.

No Harrison and, uh, Wallace won.

Gotcha.

Um, but I know something they tried.

Look like car counts is pretty decent.

I don't know how the crowds were.

But there's one of those where they had a ton of car different cars.

Oh, they're inclined.

Like clues.

So they had decent decent guys there.

Oh, yeah.

They had a good, uh, field for, uh, you know,

a lot of the Illinois guys had 40 modifies only.

Yeah, it looks like the only race sleep models on Saturday.

Gotcha.

Yeah, sorry.

I'm looking at their pages and only have a lot of results.

But yeah, I think that was the big thing.

But Mike Harrison.

Fall frost classic.

I wonder how frosty it was.

It was hit or miss, man.

I'll tell you.

It was down in Greenville where sure shot is.

It was nice.

Come up here.

Unload, you know, at one o'clock in the morning.

It was like, wow, it gets so cold.

Now maybe it just got that cold at both places.

But it sure felt like it was windy up here too.

And I was a Michigan at Mount Pleasant, Michigan.

It was windy and cold up there.

It was a lot of fun driving the trailer down there.

Oh, right.

As the windiest have ever had it out.

Not a dirt race, but our buddy Cody Swanson.

Yeah.

50K again in Las Vegas at the bowl ring, the pavement one.

I think it ended up with 68 sprint cars.

How does 71 that was in here?

Oh, damn.

Yeah.

50K.

They've had it two years in a row.

Cody Swanson won them both.

And Kevin Newton.

We hear about him a lot.

Guys gave out one the super modified show.

A lot of super modified the race it.

Random super whatever.

Kevin Newton, dirt guy.

Yeah.

Put in Richter Lane there with super mods.

Open wheels show down.

I need to follow that.

So I don't, because every time you talk about it, I'm like,

where in the hell?

I don't even know this is going on.

And yeah, you said it gets almost 70 wing sprint cars.

Like, that's pretty hard to do.

Yes.

So pretty cool.

They got that many there.

And was he, he was in the 50 car.

Yes.

That car is older shit too.

Yeah.

You know that?

Like, that thing is an old car.

It is.

Just that.

It's always ran good.

It's always been good.

Oh, that's one.

Both the $50,000 ratio is there.

Yeah.

It's at least worth $100,000 at this point.

Yeah.

Um.

What else we got?

The gateway dirt nationals released their nights.

Their nights.

And more importantly, the late mile drivers that are going to be there.

Yes.

You know, they did the modified release and did their draft.

They did a little different this year because you had to apply.

And there was about four or five hundred or five thing, four hundred modified.

Or I mean, late miles that applied or three something.

I think they picked 66 a night.

Yeah.

They said it was a lot of freaking cars.

And 66 a night, which.

Um.

You know, it's kind of mixed because it's like 70,000 in this year.

So there's a little more star power.

And there's always been star power there.

But a little.

Get it here and there.

But I, I'm going to say to me, it looks like there's more star power.

And why I like about it is they still got a lot of.

Locals are, you know, a lot of.

Regional guys.

Exactly.

That.

Not to that region.

Different regions.

Yes.

Well, and that's how I like Charlie Medford.

Like we've talked for it.

Some of those guys sold a ton of t-shirts.

And well, Carter Schlenken are.

Yeah.

You know, young kid made a name for himself in last year.

And I mean, they sold thousands upon thousands of dollars of merchandise.

And so that's what these kids get.

You know, need a breaker.

Like Jason Wellshan when the no provisional is a bloomer.

I mean, it gives some of these little teams a shot of.

To become a little more famous and sell some merch and.

Never know.

Charlie Medford ended up having Nick Hoffman guiding him down the modifides, you know.

Yeah.

Um, one of our local guys added to the list that I don't believe is attending before.

Kyle Moore out of contract champion.

Yes.

Wayne Johnny track champion.

He's uh, he's a gas man.

They had a thing asking, you know, who he's a vote for.

And I think it's perfect for Kyle Moore.

Yeah.

That's his style of race.

Yeah.

He's not afraid to throw some uh, get a good setup.

He's one of those guys that tie like Tyler Carpenter could win that thing.

Pretty easy or Corey Bauer.

I really do.

I mean, Kyle Moore.

Cause he ain't gonna take anybody's shit.

He's not afraid to race.

Oh no.

They'll have multiple right rears ready.

I'm sure.

Uh, but both eyes and shank girls are entered.

So Donnie shots his nieces.

Yeah, one rain last year.

Don O'Neill on the list.

Yes.

Spencer Hughes on the list.

For late.

We'll talk about model.

Uh, Billy Moyer senior on the list.

I don't think I ran it before.

I don't think.

Uh, Jimmy Ziedar.

I believe he's a Wisconsin guy.

He raced uh, throughout this way years ago.

I remember always seeing him.

That Brock Pinkress young kid over western Ohio or eastern Ohio western PA.

Uh, Devin Gilpin.

Kyle Stephens in a late model.

Who's normally a modified guy?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Zach Sauer.

Guy.

That's his first time.

Yep.

Coming, which is kind of weird.

For sure.

Think about.

Uh, he don't race a lot after.

Yeah.

You notice when Lucas was done, he don't race, uh, world finals.

He don't race.

Uh, yeah.

He does the, uh, the Arizona deal, but he's from Arizona or New Mexico.

So he's a west coast, you know, say west coast, but a western guy.

Uh, Joseph Joyner on that list as well.

You know, Jimmy Owens, Brandon Overton.

Josh Rice on there.

Hudson O'Neill, Tanner English, Ricky Thornton, Jr.

All the usual big name suspects.

Pierce, which Pierce and Bab and R.T.J.

Rice raced it last year.

Mm-hmm.

Overton raced it last year.

Yeah.

Herb.

You got your Nick Hoffman.

Devin Ran back again.

Ashton Winger.

Uh, Jonathan Devin poured on it this year.

He's been hit or miss at it for years.

I don't know.

And Winger hasn't been to it ever.

You're even if he's been to it.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

It's been hit or miss.

Colton Burdett was be on there.

Iron Man lead battle.

James Johnson.

Uh, James Johnson's on it.

I know it's his first year ever going to it.

I'm going to guess it's Gilpen's first one, too, I think.

I feel like you might be right, but we've done almost 10 of them now.

So it's kind of hard to think it's been going on that long.

Right.

Um, but yeah, a lot of cool names for late models.

Pretty much any big guy you could think of.

We'll be there.

Carson Hosevar is coming back from NASCAR.

Yeah.

Well, Jason Faggers ready to race him.

I'm sure I hope so.

Uh, yeah.

Late or modified.

Have a much smaller list.

Um, it looks like, but uh, yeah, I think there's 30 to a night, 35 a night.

Something like that.

Yeah.

But Mannex Farquin or Butler regular.

Yeah.

He's, he's on the list.

So cool to see you.

He has voted in.

He was the last fan vote in.

Gotcha.

Um, it's going through the names.

You know,

RTJ will be in a modified again.

I think Jimmy Owens and modified again, too.

I think they will keep looking here.

Not, uh, maybe not last year hearing both.

Yes.

Um, Charlie Medford back.

Adam Stricker.

Um, Kyle Hammer.

Dave Hess.

Casey Brudette.

Mike McKinney.

Mike Ledford.

He's a Illinois guy who's had a lot of success.

Mike Harrison.

Obviously like the ultimate modified guy, right?

So Trevor Neville, Kyle Stephens.

Um, yeah.

A lot of, a lot of good names for modifying drivers.

Needless to say.

Um, but yeah, we'll look at what's that, uh,

I wish we get one's that happening.

December 4th, 5th and 6th or 5th, 6th and whatever.

The first Thursday Friday.

Gotcha.

I know it's bounced around with PRI and whatnot.

So, yeah, that'll be here before we know it, too.

Yes.

Like three weeks away.

Yeah.

You're going to that, correct?

Yes.

Yeah.

Cause I go to races, Elliott.

Is your mom dad going this year?

No, they're,

no, they're, they're retired too busy for them now.

Yeah.

Well, then you should have took their tickets and went.

Yeah.

I honestly don't know what they, they, uh, they did, I mean, my dad

and reserve tickets, he doesn't understand that that's a thing now.

So I don't know what they even had before.

But they used to like it when it wasn't so busy because you could

kind of move around the world.

Well, now it's, you know, it's pretty busy for the bottom section

at least.

Yeah, you're a good late model fan.

Not even there.

Right.

Still feel like the best place to be watching is on my couch.

I feel like it's like an NFL game or a golf tournament.

Get a lot of good coverage from the, uh, from the TV and, uh, yeah,

the first, first few years, it was a couple of marathon nights where

they're raised to like two, three in the morning or whatever.

So that kind of turned me off.

Now that's all under control and obviously with the,

so you don't want to go meet our dirt nerds fans like I do and have fun.

Perfect.

Yeah.

Like, uh, you know, the routes racing team from Minnesota.

Yeah.

There you go.

Get the hell out of fun, man.

Yeah.

We can't help it.

You know, you're not a fun person.

You're a fun sucker.

Yeah.

I'm not a fun sucker.

Yeah.

I have my own fun.

You don't want to see this house.

See this house.

I fucking pay for it.

So am I as well fucking use it?

Right.

That's how I see it.

Jesus.

I tell you.

Yeah.

I see when you pay your house off, you don't even want to be there.

Do you think our fans see it?

See what I like thinks of you.

You'd rather pay these bills.

Yeah.

You say they got mortgages.

They get it.

That's for sure.

Um, anything else to talk about.

I really don't have much.

So we might have a pretty good.

Well, also tonight.

I found a neat thing.

Yeah.

Go for it.

Uh, that Blake Anderson.

Uh, we've had him on the show before.

Yes, we have.

Uh, I think one of the best announcers out there.

He's not announcing still full time.

Yeah.

Um, we talk about high limits, outlaws, the money.

Yeah.

Such for you.

So he says.

According to his stats, which I don't know.

It's actually stats are per sprint car racing.

Like I does last stats.

This year.

44 drivers and four 10 sprints cleared over $100,000.

Mm-hmm.

Which last year, only 36 did.

Of those 46, 16 drivers.

Earned over 250,000 this year in sprint cars.

Okay.

So.

So, you know, you know.

We dogged high limits to and some of their deals.

Because they're their own worst enemy at times.

But what was the goal of high limits?

Bring more money in the sprint car racing.

More teams are getting more money.

And that's the evidence the most ever.

You know, and we went up almost 10 cars.

Eight cars.

Eight more drivers earned over $100,000.

And they did last year.

So.

I mean, granted.

$100,000.

Race and full tight sprint cars saying shit.

Yeah.

On the end is their 70.

Mm-hmm.

But still.

It's better than it was.

It's just sucks at the sports so damn expensive now.

Still.

That shows that no matter what kind of in game.

Then you see all this money in Central P.A.

He's been doing their job out of two.

Because there's some central P.A.

Guys, it's all under over $100,000.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, just your chaps.

So.

You know, the goal is getting there.

You know, maybe we can get to 50 next year.

Yeah.

I mean, because we know how's got more money.

Pennsylvania's got more money.

But the professional guys are getting more money.

And even the power idea.

I mean, created a Jensen.

Jensen got 50k.

I mean, I don't know if they're counting that.

And they're not.

I don't know if they're counting point money in there.

You had to point money in there.

Yeah.

What's that do?

Well, then the guy guys like Ryan Tim's who won, you know.

Right.

Two biggest freaking races known to man.

Like a cap.

He got 30 green.

Just points here.

Yeah.

The team shows.

So, and not all of them are 4,000.

I mean, somewhere 5 or 6, but you take 14 times 4.

It's 56.

And you got, you know, a cap got at least 86,000.

We're team the wins and more.

So cap got probably close to 100,000.

Yeah.

This year.

And that's really not driving more than a few hours from home.

Right.

At the furthest.

Right.

And the core of that was within 20 minutes.

Either way of his house pretty much.

Mm-hmm.

So, yeah.

So, uh, it's getting there.

No.

We just got to look at.

Are the tracks making the money?

Yes.

That they're paying out off of what they're paying out.

Yeah.

Exactly while.

Exactly.

Clarksville granted this $7 million.

But is there going to be more?

I mean, because we see.

Spectrums all over place.

He had new places open in like West Virginia.

You know, and some other tracks open them back up.

Mansfields open them back up.

And there's some other tracks.

Yeah.

Well, there's a couple of clear.

Two ones open them back open.

And there's some other.

Yeah, bell clarity.

But then you got tracks closing down too.

Um, so, uh, yeah.

Or would be more that close down.

I mean, I think it's going to be interesting in our local level.

Butler has made their stock car rules.

I think they're compact rules.

The same as Oak Shade, so cars can go both.

I've talked to a handful of teams this weekend.

That race Oak Shade all the time.

And they're all going to Butler.

Yeah.

Because one money and two track conditions.

Mm-hmm.

And like they said, you know, they've been stuck at Oak Shade for years.

That's don't take care of the track.

Makes it rough where your tear shut up nonstop.

Mm-hmm.

Has an increased pay for 100 years.

Yeah.

I mean, guys are pulling dinosaurs to the race track.

The last time the pay raise.

Yeah.

There.

And so, and they're like, you know, Butler's putting more and more in.

And so, uh, I talked to a handful of guys.

And it's like, nah, we're going to go Butler more this year.

So they go be interesting.

I mean, I hate to see it.

I don't want to see Oak Shade glows.

But they have to do something.

They can't keep something on their hands.

Yeah.

They haven't done any track improvement.

No, no grandstand offense.

No surface.

Yeah.

I mean, I was a kid.

And it's the same as.

Oh, yeah.

It's the same as when you were as a kid.

Yeah.

Same fence, same.

Yep.

And the pay, they've, you know, drilled a little here and there.

Mm-hmm.

But.

This year, the pay went up to support the Denver.

Like, I don't ever remember them announcing it.

And obviously, our friend race is there.

So, and he won.

And he's when I told me I could pay 2001, which they never announced that.

And the only reason they did that is because Attica did it.

So, you know, it should be announcing that.

Yeah.

I was like, but I don't know if that was every week.

That's the thing if they don't announce something publicly.

You don't know what you're really getting on a regular basis.

And then they cut a lot of late model races out because a lot of guys were like,

we'll go race, you know, a fireman's in the area.

Like you'll go race for five grand down the road.

Yeah.

So they've been living off the bombers and sports with that.

Well, now.

You get 20 rules.

They're the same.

Well, on the bombers, they only got 24 or 25.

They used to get 80.

So it's like, that was their money making class and that's even gone down.

So I mean, they have to do something or else.

Yeah, I'm going to say they're going to be on.

They're going to be on the Hurtin in big time.

Yeah.

Well, you know, 14 water trucks, six graders, and 12 sheepfights or whatever,

I'll broke out and, you know, BFE, that nice.

Well, we don't have a water truck.

Well, I mean, sorry.

It's kind of a major deal to have one.

For eight years, I mean, I'm going to put up a fence.

So you can have some spread car races.

Yeah.

Yeah, that fence there now.

I couldn't handle a pillow running into a thing.

Well, that's what it gets to me.

They're worried about the sprint cars.

But light mile ways double the sprint car.

Yep.

It's like, you're afraid of it holding the sprint car.

I, okay, I get the flip factor.

But we see late miles flip all the damn time now too.

And the light mile ways double the sprint car.

Yeah.

And if it's dry slick and you run non-wing sprint cars,

like they did, I mean, the speeds are probably going to be slower than the light mile.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah, that'll be kind of talk tracks being able to forward the series, right?

And that's one thing with skepticism of high limit over a period of time, right?

It's like, yeah, you're going to pay more and all this.

But like, we all know flows involved heavily involved.

I get it.

But like the day they decide they don't want to do that anymore,

or flow corporate decides they want to change their strategy, you know.

Well, I'm just saying it's, it's like, we don't like different tracks they've had already.

That's how to race and not reach schedule.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, hey, you got to fill out a little. Don't get me wrong.

Like, you're going to have that.

Outlaws have had that.

I mean, hey, there was a time outlaws.

We would bitch up, up to high hell because they wouldn't schedule more than El Dora, right?

In Ohio.

Now they have to schedule other tracks.

So now they do kind of come crawling to more tracks that like,

oh, we're coming back after 15 years to a track.

Yeah, because now you get a little competition that's forcing you to, you know,

diversify a little bit more.

But with high limit going to some of these races, which I don't,

you know, discount them on is bringing sprint car racing to places where it hasn't normally been.

That's a good idea.

But when you don't have a rest of a field to show up, you know,

that makes it kind of hard for a track to pay an $80,000 plus per.

So well, especially with one division.

Yes.

That's the only thing I grant.

I understand it.

Oh, yeah.

Middle week.

They want bam, bam.

Get people out there.

But one tracks aren't racing because it never gets drove in enough.

Yes.

I mean, how many of the midweek shows have you seen or it's hammered down?

It's not even halfway up because there's nothing to help drive the track out.

Yeah.

There's no like heavier cars throwing mud, you know, or even giving it a character.

Yeah.

You know, and it's just hammered down, you know, whoever's got the fastest car.

Now, they mean sometimes it gets racy.

Mm-hmm.

But I get it, but not only that, whoever's promoting it, I know some of them that do 50-50,

some they lease the track, some of us on the track.

And, you know, granted, I know they don't want a ton of cars, but I think you have to have a second class,

even during the middle of the week.

And you have a lot of the downtime of the, you know, yeah.

I think like, I know Fremont's done it, which is a great idea for that kind of event.

It's like top 20 in points for the supporting class to do two features and be done.

Yeah.

You know, like...

Yeah, or do an invite.

20 cars only.

Yeah.

And have a feature or, you know, high laps of the feature or trophy down or whatever,

or the class that you have, you know, you know, like Fremont trucks would be perfect,

because they haven't been over 25 of them all year, you know.

Mm-hmm.

Run heat races and put them all in the aiming, you know, or something, you know.

Some of them break it up and help the tracks get a little more racing.

Yeah.

Yeah, that is a good point when you go with the one...

Especially spring cars are so light that's, you know, a little different for them to move the track up.

Some of those you're getting 30 cars and you're paying 50 bucks to get in,

or not to see 30 cars banging the last forever.

Yeah.

You're going to go there and watch one division and pay 50 bucks to watch 30 car show

and go like, well, we've seen three heat races.

The dash of B made it one, you know.

Yeah.

I mean, they've had some huge crowds, they've had some not so huge crowds, but...

Especially in new areas.

I mean, if you're trying to get fans, you got to put on a little bit of a show,

which I just pageantry.

Yeah.

Yeah, it'll be...

Instead of just Tony talking to the Infield about, you know, what they ate and what Kyle,

they seen chain tied defense and whatever stupid bullshit they see driving down the road,

which, you know, I like the wheelspin.

I like how they do that.

I think that's kind of cool and how they ask a question.

That stuff's cool, but some of the stuff is like, come on.

I'd rather see street stocks for a couple of heat races in the main and help the track and help your fans.

Plus, it helps the back gate.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what will help tracks is more cars.

Obviously helps their, you know, pit pass money.

Yeah, that's the back gate.

And obviously, it depends on the whole arrangement, like the way he said.

There's different arrangements they run out of, but they run by.

And it'll be cool.

Maybe it'll be, you know, I'm interested to see with Brad Sweet.

It's taking a step away full time.

If things change with the direction of the series or, you know, he...

Well, they're taking on more, too.

They got dark now.

No, they got the wreaks track, too, in California.

And I'll say the other thing with, though, with Brad not being full time as Brad is a crowd, you know, a crowd getter.

Like people come to watch Brad Sweet, so him not being there full time may not be a great thing either.

A lot of good cars, a lot of good guys, you know, Rico, obviously, those guys do a great job.

But, you know, Brad was the kind of the anchor.

Yeah.

Shooted an anchor for eyeballs.

He's first couple of years, so.

Another 305, for some, man.

A lot of Ag of Freemont's 305's.

If you want to get in the 305 race and business, Ag of Freemont, you got all kinds of options.

I know Jim Cune's got theirs for sale.

Mike Moore, Chad Wilson, Jackson Speedo now.

Well, as I see, there's a held Miller.

I mean, there's a good six to eight 305's for sale right now.

Yeah.

Are they moving up?

Are they quitting because of its fences?

Yeah, now I know some's getting out of 305's because of its fence.

Yes.

And the lack of reason the purse.

So, yeah.

The interesting, but yeah.

It'll be interesting to see the outlaw schedule.

See if they get some new tracks.

So, I'm hoping it looks like the world outlaw sprint cars.

We know they got West Virginia and they got Mansfield.

Hope they get another Ohio track besides El Dora.

I mean, we love El Dora, but it'd be nice.

World of Outlaw sprint cars.

Have they announced El Dora or Mansfield?

That late model sometimes.

I'd say late models.

Yeah, not sprint cars.

I'd like to see the world outlaw late model schedule.

Yeah.

You know, they got Mansfield and El Dora.

You know, they got Sharon, but it'd be nice.

Nice to get another Ohio track.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I know one.

I don't exactly know if or what it would happen,

but I know one was interested in a Lucas Arrays.

I know one that usually don't have late models.

So, be cool to see if something comes out of that, too.

Yeah.

Oh, I guess another thing we should mention.

We talked about mentioning Danny Schatz earlier.

A question about his 2026 season.

Didn't really know what was going on.

Nothing official has been announced, but supposedly,

a big game motor sports owner, Todd Queering,

mentioned at the reception or at the banquet about,

you know, next year when Donnie's with us blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

So I heard somebody say they, somebody said they

heard it in the interview.

I have not heard it over the weekend.

Yeah.

I feel like it'd be blasted everywhere if he did say it like that,

but somebody said something about,

he said something about Donnie joining them next year.

So I don't know.

Yeah.

To be interesting.

And you sack midgets.

We've got seven you sack midget races starting this weekend in California

with the Hangtown 100.

Loaded fields.

I mean, there always are in California.

It's kind of some guy's test for a chill at bulk.

It's like Matt Woods taking some cars for some drivers.

Column of seed.

Iron cars from the Seedles run it.

Buddy's running.

St. Tino for Ruchi's running this weekend.

Yeah.

I think Jason Persley's running all of them.

I mean, there's a lot of teams that have a lot of sprint car drivers in.

These seven racists.

A lot of them stand up for the chiller book.

Yes.

I didn't know if Tanner Holmes was saying something about the chiller bowl today.

And I really didn't get a chance to see it.

But I think Tanner Holmes might be racing the chiller bowl.

Gotcha.

Not surprising.

I mean, just.

Yeah.

Just, you know, chilly bowl brings out all kinds of all kinds of people to test the metal with in the midget.

So, yeah, anything else.

I got nothing else really going on.

I think that is it.

I think that's.

I think.

Okay.

Well, we'll call it a short episode this week.

We will not be putting an episode out next week.

We're going to go to our every other week format.

So next week a new podcast.

Shouldn't be a big deal.

I'm sure.

I'm sure as soon as we stop recording this every series is going to release your schedule.

All kinds of driver announcements will be out there.

But you're still going to have to wait over a week for us to talk about.

So sorry about that.

Baps closed out season for Eastern sprint cars.

Baps.

There you go.

That's this weekend, right?

Yeah.

I've been to it before.

Hey.

I mean, I know in our area it's supposed to be like 62 degrees and kind of warm on Saturday.

Yeah.

It's supposed to be, I looked like 57 there.

Yeah.

It's a lot of work.

Hell, they go race in February over Pennsylvania.

Well, that'll be it for us.

Short episode, everybody.

Hopefully, hopefully all like that.

I don't know.

Sometimes.

Sometimes they're like, oh, thank God they're done.

Other times like, oh, it's all longer you went.

But we'll try to come up with some more interesting talk about next time if there isn't anything.

Yeah.

But we didn't have some more fiend questions or.

Yeah.

I've been there.

You were something.

Yeah.

No, fuck that shit.

We don't do that.

Anyway, thanks for listening.

Appreciate it each and every week.

Tell your friends.

Tell your family.

We'll see you next time.

As always, stay dirty.

Buh-bye.

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