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Episode 384 - National Schedule Review, The High Roller Club and Rule Changes
Episode 384 - National Schedule Review, The High Roller Club and Rule Changes
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About this episode
A lively discussion kicks off with Thanksgiving preparations and racing updates, including the recent midget races and rule changes in the Dirt racing community. The hosts dive into the High Roller Club and its implications for drivers, highlighting the complexities of the new points system and the potential for increased payouts. They also touch on the upcoming Dome event, sharing insights on attendance and the impact on local businesses. The episode wraps up with reflections on the evolving landscape of dirt racing and the importance of safety measures.
Topics:
360s
All Star Circuit of Champions
Brownstown
chassis
comeback classic
dirt track world championship
Iron Man late models
Jumble Eye 100
kits
Knoxville Raceway
This week we're back and we discuss the World of Outlaw Late Model and Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series schedules at length. We also talk about the High Limit Sprint Car Series new 'High Roller Club' and try make sense of it! We also talk about some rule changes and results from around the country.
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Concept
Jumble Eye 100
"Um, it's going through the Jumble Eye 100 was this past weekend. Spencer Hughes. Yeah."
The Jumble Eye 100 is a drag race where drivers try to be the fastest over a short distance. It’s a fun local event that people watch and compete in for cash prizes.
The Jumble Eye 100 is a popular drag racing event that takes place at the Jumble Eye Drag Strip in Michigan. It attracts local and regional racers competing for prize money and bragging rights.
Concept
LaVonia
"Um, Casey Roberts won on LaVonia. I think that one was $10 grand to win."
La Vonia is a track where drivers race in straight-line speed contests. It’s a popular spot for drag racing enthusiasts.
La Vonia is a well-known drag strip located in Michigan, famous for hosting competitive drag racing events and attracting a dedicated community of racers.
Brand
Lucas
"[1401.1s] There used to be a Lucas race. [1402.1s] Go for."
Lucas makes parts that help cars run faster and more reliably in races, like spark plugs and ignition modules.
Lucas is a well‑known manufacturer of racing and performance parts, especially ignition systems and electronic components used in motorsports.
Brand
Napa
"[1405.1s] Sponsored by Napa. [1406.1s] Always a big Napa race figure."
Napa makes special tires that give cars better grip and speed on the track.
Napa is a leading manufacturer of high‑performance tires and tire accessories used by racing teams worldwide.
Concept
Sharon Speedway
"[1408.1s] Sharon Speedway, middle of July for two nights."
Sharon Speedway is a small race track where drivers compete in short, fast races on a paved oval.
Sharon Speedway is a 3/8‑mile paved oval race track located in Sharon, Pennsylvania, known for hosting local and regional racing events.
Concept
sprint car tracks
"one of our local sprint car tracks to actually have a national"
Sprint cars are fast race cars that run on small, banked tracks. They’re known for their speed and excitement.
Sprint cars are high-powered, lightweight race cars that compete on short oval tracks, often with steep banking.
Concept
late model race
"late model race to get a profit like they do off of a national"
Late model races are events where newer race cars compete. They’re common in regional racing series.
A late model race refers to a competition featuring newer generation stock cars, typically used in regional touring series.
Concept
Knoxville Raceway
"Uh, cause their next race after Port Royal at the end of August is Knoxville Raceway."
Knoxville Raceway is a small dirt track in Tennessee where drivers race fast cars on a short oval. It’s famous for big racing events that attract fans from all over the country.
Knoxville Raceway is a 1/4-mile dirt oval track in Knoxville, Tennessee, known for sprint car and midget racing. It hosts national events like the World of Outlaws.
Concept
Port Royal
"Uh, cause their next race after Port Royal at the end of August is Knoxville Raceway."
Port Royal is a small dirt track in Tennessee where drivers race fast cars. It’s part of the same racing series as Knoxville Raceway.
Port Royal is a 1/4-mile dirt oval in Port Royal, Tennessee, popular for sprint car racing and part of the World of Outlaws circuit.
Concept
Brownstown
"Then the Browns town for two days."
Brownstown is a place where racing events happen, probably on a dirt track. It’s mentioned as part of the season schedule.
Brownstown refers to a racing event or location, likely a dirt track venue in the Midwest where sprint car races are held.
Concept
Pittsburgh or outdoors two day show
"Pittsburgh or outdoors two day show this year for 50,000."
It’s a two-day racing event held outside in Pittsburgh, where drivers compete on dirt tracks.
This likely refers to a two-day outdoor racing event in Pittsburgh, featuring sprint cars or similar dirt track competitions.
Concept
Virginia Motor Speedway
"What's Virginia Motor Speedway with the dirt track world championship?"
Virginia Motor Speedway is a small dirt track in Virginia where drivers race fast cars. It’s part of the big national racing series.
Virginia Motor Speedway is a 1/4-mile dirt oval in Virginia that hosts sprint car races, including the Dirt Track World Championship.
Concept
dirt track world championship
"What's Virginia Motor Speedway with the dirt track world championship?"
It’s a big racing competition where drivers race on dirt tracks. The best racers compete for a world title.
The Dirt Track World Championship is a series of sprint car races held on dirt oval tracks across the United States, culminating in a national title event.
Concept
World Outlaws
"Tremels for World Outlaws."
World Outlaws is a racing league where drivers compete in fast, small cars on short tracks. It’s one of the most popular sprint car series in the U.S.
World Outlaws is a premier American sprint car racing series featuring high‑speed, short‑track events on both dirt and paved ovals.
Concept
All Star Circuit of Champions
"The All Star Circuit of Champions released their schedule."
All Star Circuit of Champions is a racing league that holds events on many tracks in the U.S., where drivers race small, powerful cars over short distances.
The All Star Circuit of Champions (ASCoC) is a national sprint car racing series that hosts events across the United States, featuring both short‑track and long‑track competitions.
Concept
Iron Man late models
"They got Iron Man late models for 5K."
Iron Man late models are a type of race car that looks like regular cars but is tuned for speed on small tracks. They’re popular in local racing events.
Iron Man late models is a racing class featuring modified stock cars that compete on short oval tracks. The cars are built to strict rules but allow significant performance upgrades.
Concept
comeback classic
"Then they do a comeback classic."
A comeback classic is when older cars, like vintage models, come back to race again for a special event.
A comeback classic is a racing event where older, often vintage or classic cars return to the track for a special race.
Brand
NOS
"And then the surprise which turned into a three-race deal in Ohio, the NOS energy sprint cars."
NOS makes special fuels and oils that help race cars run faster and last longer. Many racing teams use NOS products during competitions.
NOS is a well-known brand that produces high-performance racing fuels, lubricants, and additives used by sprint car teams to enhance engine power and reliability.
Term
360s
"Obviously, there's some 360s stuff, but it's down to 14."
"360s" means the cars have engines that are 360 cubic inches big, which is a standard size for many sprint car races.
"360s" refers to sprint cars powered by 360 cubic‑inch (about 5.9 L) engines, a common displacement in American sprint car racing.
Car
Ferrari
"[3432.1s] IOU, one Ferrari. [3433.1s] Yeah."
Ferrari makes fast, fancy cars that many people want to own or see on the road. They’re famous for their speed and style.
Ferrari is an Italian luxury sports car manufacturer known for high-performance vehicles and racing heritage.
Part
chassis
"Sprint car local teams usually have three chassis sit in there, you know, two ready to go, maybe."
The chassis is the main frame of a car that holds everything together. In racing cars, it’s made light so the car can move fast.
The chassis is the structural frame of a vehicle that supports all major components, including the engine, suspension, and body. In sprint cars, a lightweight chassis is critical for performance.
Term
kits
"There's already a couple of dappers or kits in the making are already out there."
A kit is a bundle of parts that you can put together to build or upgrade a race car. It saves time and money compared to buying every part separately.
In racing, a kit refers to a set of components or parts that can be assembled into a complete vehicle or upgraded system. Sprint car kits often include chassis, suspension, and engine components.
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Well, hello, everybody. Hi, we're back. We're back. We're here. Oh, after a week off. Oh, there's Elliot. There I am. It's great manners. That's right. Only the best for our dirt nerds listeners.
Hope everyone's doing well. We got Turkey Day coming up. I know starting tomorrow. There's been stuff in the dirt. My prep began tomorrow. I will be putting my hand in inappropriate places in the Turkey for sure. Yeah, this is a goblet. This is a goblet. This is the neck. If you've seen what the neck looks like. Yeah. So Turkey Day coming up. We know we've got some midget races going on out west around Thanksgiving. Oh, it's a pop up.
Popular. Yeah, of course, tracks have been heavier in hell because all the rain. Yeah, I was going to say Merced last weekend had quite a bit of rain the night before they were able to race. Yeah, got some wrecked shit. Needless to say. We'll get to that in a moment. But first, as always, we got sponsors to talk about our first is our friends over at propane.com. If you haven't already, check out the website. Learn everything. Propane can do for you. Propane is clean.
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Our next one is our friends over at the whistle stop bar and grill. If you haven't already, check out the whistle stop just seven miles down the road.
South of Eldora Speedway in the heart of Ansonia, Ohio whistle bar in grill.com is the website.
Go online. You can order online. Pick up at the drive up window. You can dine in, carry out. They have some door dash available in local areas.
What did you say you can dine in dash? No, not necessarily. Oh,
Dwayne plucked that one, Andrew, not me. And even if you're at the racetrack for some races, they door dashes up to the racetrack even now.
So anyway, you want to enjoy some of their awesome pizza, great burgers, sandwiches, dinner platters, their meatloafs, really good cool drinks. They have you cover. They do.
And you might even win on a pull tab nowadays. Yes, and some good swag. Yes, good swag. Good desserts. I heard. I don't know. I'm always full. You know, you go in and you look at the desserts because they got that little little screen now that flash them.
They're always looking like, man, that looks like it's really good. I'm going to try that today. Then after you like, well, I guess what next time. Yeah. Well, I know he's got hoodies now, too.
My parents got some. And I forgot when I was down there a couple of weeks ago to tell them bring one for Nicole.
But yeah, you got some hoodies t-shirts.
Well, you've got Omar, the tent maker, making some. So I got by one. There you go.
But yeah, lots of things coming to the whistle stop, changing up, going to increase. I guess not necessarily increased, but have a more formal outdoor dining section, maybe help not have to put the tent up for the big races.
Have some expanded outdoor seating, new bathrooms are coming, more concrete, lots of stuff going on at the whistle stop, always trying to improve the place. So be sure to check it out next time you're in the area.
And if you're in the area, you had a little further south to downtown Greenville, Ohio, be sure to check out the shirt shot tap house. Yes, good time. I was there a few weeks ago.
And got to enjoy the new barrel then and pour some whiskey. They got some wines on tap to see how it does leave the house people's right, just not see you guys.
46 notice adult beverages on tap on the wall, mostly beers, a few citers and a salsa usually, but they got everything from your domestics to local stuff, IPA, stouts, porters.
Anything you want to try, they got it. Let's put it that way. It's an awesome selection. It's all self poor. You check in, you get yourself card and you can pour your own beer, you're charged by the ounce. So it makes it easy to try some of those goofy ones.
And then you know, if you settle on one, you like, go ahead and pour the whole plant works out well. While you're there, you can head upstairs to the bullseye game lounge 24 arcade games, duck, four duck pin bowling lanes. I know there's four self poor taps up there as well. So if you got your card.
Right. That's right. You won't go thirsty that way. And there's a nice little couch. You can sit on that. Yeah, there's a couple little chill areas up there. And you know, we holidays coming up.
I think they're getting pretty full, but you can always inquire about their venue spaces. They got the Butler room, the Oakley lounge, game lounge, A and B, the tap room nook. And there's a variety of packages to pick from. So check them out, sure shot tap house.com is the website.
Yes, we have perfect place for a dirt nerds party in the off season, but with Elliot do that. No, I talked about it with our friend Andrew. And he's like, I don't think shit for people would show up to that. So there you call him and bitch at him. How about that?
I think people would show up. Yeah, there's a lot of dirt nerds fan in that region.
Mm hmm. Anyway, some racing did happen since our last podcast tried to have some racing lots of rain outs out West with the midget series.
You said national midgets, plasterville, the hang town 100 end up being one day and it up being a one day show where Dyson personally got the win.
Plus a park rained out. Yeah, but they sell you. You didn't bring up the whole how he won, you know, I can't remember to be honest, but, you know, he did Kyle arson, oh, is that the one with arson flip his dick off?
Yes, I'm sorry. There's been a lot of flips lately. It's hard to remember which one.
So Dyson, I mean, and he pushed up the track, I believe, right? Yes, he went for it on a restart. It was if it wouldn't have been the hang town 100, they would have canceled because it canceled the rest of the days, still muddy, but inside of the track was not racable.
But Dyson went for it and hit the inside berm and shot up track and got in Larson, Larson flipped and gave him the thumbs up and didn't even after end day and, and of course, this Larson's home track and man, he, I mean, he got booed bad.
And Dyson, I thought handled it very, he didn't get on the cage and celebrated and goes, hey, I don't want to win this way. I messed up. He goes, I'm going to go over talk Kyle, take my ass chewing.
He's like, you know, he says, learn how to be a better driver. I didn't, he goes, I don't want to end Kyle. He was even like, hey, I know he didn't want to win that way. I didn't want it to happen. It's not like how Larson's never done that move. Yeah, that's thing gets me. So I mean, these people are just hating on Dyson and Facebook. I mean, just all he's a dirty driver.
That's kill Thomas from Kokomo, right?
Yeah, exactly. Like, like, and it's like, what the hell are you guys looking at? Oh, Larson's never put a move like that. Well, then that tells me, you're not hugger that you haven't watched too many Kyle Larson races, because he has done it many times.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, I mean, and nothing, I said something about that one guy said, oh, you're hatred for Larson. I said, I don't hate Larson. I like Larson, but he's not, I mean, I think he's the best driver right now that we have.
Mm-hmm, but he screwed up. He did kale Thomas dirty, and I've seen you do other people dirty like that before, and that's why he wasn't all pissed out.
He's like, I get it. He goes, I kept pinching my entry, pinching my entry, and Dyson had one shot, and he went for it. He hit slop, pushed up, hit me. I flipped. He didn't.
Mm-hmm. Dyson can't handle it. Don't be in it. Right. That's, but I couldn't believe. I mean, two people, I mean, you know how?
Hey, you know, because everybody's talking about everybody's vested because, you know, you bought a $25 ticket. Now, you got to write to hate Dyson personally and make threats towards him and all this shit because, and, you know, he, he's like, hey, I screwed up, you know, he goes, I didn't even celebrate this win because I don't like how it happened. Yeah, you know, but he's not the only one that's ever done it.
Nope. And the guy that received it that night just happened to me on a receiving end, so the giving in, because I've seen him give it. Yeah, full times.
You've always said it. If Larson's ever behind on a night, he's going to drive like an idiot. Oh, and that's usually happens. Look at Joy Bull. Sometimes. Yeah.
Yeah. So the hang town was everything was kind of muted, I think, with all the weather, right? But the facility rained out, Thunder Bowl rained out. They got to Merced.
Yeah, they added one night at Merced. Yeah, which didn't they have to, you know, they canceled one of them that canceled. See,
Tullari. Yeah, Tullari is supposed to be the first one said was supposed to be Friday Saturday, then they canceled one and took Tullari or somewhere.
Then when they canceled again, they moved to, okay, well, hey, the midgets are out here for seven nights and like four of them, three of them
and canceled right away. So that's what's added, but they took a bath through that crowd was. Yeah, it fit. But it was typical rain on Friday night and the track wasn't
raceable. Yeah. I mean, it was like racing in a cornfield and it was still throwing slick mud, like it wasn't even drove in, even in the main.
Um, we're kind of Macintosh one Friday night and then Logan C. We got to win a Chase Johnson classic and Saturday night 10 to 360's with them.
Yes, those were 360. So I was watching, I was working on go cards actually. So I was doing something racing this weekend. So you kissed my ass.
I was in my buddy, Jake's the dirt nerds go carts are going down to Batesville, Mississippi. Oh, next week. There's a bunch of them going. Well, they're going to go with the hoards and and Rickner and all them.
So I'm going to hang out with them, but we had to get shit scaled because he's got to load up. So Saturday night I went over there helped him. We had flow on. And I noticed that the big sprint cards and the midgets and obviously I was working on stuff. So I didn't catch everything. But there was a lot of torn up shit that night. Yeah.
I saw a buddy took a really bad one flying in that one. I saw. But yeah, Logan C. We got the win. Um, I didn't see what happened. Macintosh Saturday. He flipped. Not sure.
But I just didn't know if the cannonball got cannonballed or, you know, I sure and I know him and Grant still grants. So I was a chance in the points. I mean, one cannonball won on Friday. He gained like 35 points. That really. So now he's got a 64 point going into.
Because they race tomorrow night. Yep. Then they race Saturday. Baker's field on the 25th. Yep. Tomorrow and then Ventura. Yeah. For turkey night on Saturday. There's two races left. Yeah. Um, yeah. So midgets still going hard and I mean, good car counts. Like 40 plus cars.
Yeah. High 30s. Yeah. High 30s, which is kind of low for California. He's about 50, but the weather's been shit. Yeah. Rain and the weather. It's one. The lower budget California teams.
I think I'm going to go because they know the tracks. Yeah. Hammer down. Yeah. I can't compete with that action. No, well, and some of the guys that drive through you. Yeah. Yeah. So now I give it to you, sack. I mean, um, I think it's great that you sack.
Find a way to get those because I mean, those teams like Matt last fall, him and his dad, Jake Boxle, pulled that whole team out there. Mm-hmm. And they're a little budget deal. Are you out there? You're staying for a couple of weeks.
And your races get rained out. And by all means, at least two more. She got rained out. But it wasn't perfect track conditions, but the midget guys will race in it. Mm-hmm.
If it's rough, and that's what kind of makes a midget race and midget racing. If it's rough and tacky, they afraid racing. They'll put on the best show that they can. And they're still like Grant got hard track past 13, 14 cars on Friday night with a one lane, basically cornfield.
You know, but you got to give you that credit for trying to take care of their guys of getting the shows in. And then, okay, they got rained out. Now Merced is going to do that. Yeah.
Give that guy props because it's from what I see in the crowd. He, he didn't do so hot on Friday night. And I don't know what Saturday's crowd was like.
I say it wasn't packed by any means from what I saw. Look, you know, watching on TV, but it was probably better in Friday's for sure. That's one thing I'd like to get out there. I mean, I've always wanted to go to Ventures right on the ocean. That's pretty good.
I want to do that whole swing there for the seven or eight days. I think it'd be awesome to get to all the tracks because I like midgets anyways. And I like to use that midgets. And it'd be awesome to do that.
I think you're maybe next year. Texting with a guy right now who could hook you up to get you in for free, probably very, very possible.
I don't, I don't, I don't ever, you know, ask anybody. I'm not, you know, yeah. I'll talk to anybody.
Late models were in action. The big one since we last recorded was the Sonoa race with the flow racing night in America.
Jonathan Davenport taking both nights, what 20,000, no one opener and 50,000 plus for the finale. The big eyeballs were on Bobby Pierce as he was, you know, going to win the title easily.
And then that got changed real quick on Friday. Yes. And then come Saturday. He had to finish look at least seventh to clinch it without any problems.
And then him and over 10 got a little, a little good on Friday night. That was Friday night.
Because Saturday night he ended up six and he had to get seventh or better. You sure? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, because you guys are home but on Friday night. Cause same night that, uh, the same night that Dyson and Larson went at it.
Gotcha. Yeah. So I'm getting my, uh, my dates mixed up. But yeah, it was a little in, little interesting.
Did you see that video?
And which one over 10 pairs? Yeah. I thought it was a little blown out of proportion. I did too. It's like your pistol. I mean, I see that move probably 50 times this year.
Yeah. That's, that's a modern day of late malaracing. Whoever's got to cut, I mean, I've seen people get to cut shit out of every, even we even seen it at again. Yeah.
Our local shows. Yeah. I read the article with over 10 on dirt on dirt. And he was pissed that like, hey, I'm not going to try to cost this guy a championship.
And then, you know, he just turns left. You've been running middle high the whole time. And then he, you know, as soon as he clears my bumper, he just turns left.
So over 10 was more like pissed that's like, you're kind of being a dumb ass racing for a championship. You know, cutting me off. But like you said, like, how many times it'll door do you see that?
You get a moment when the high set off the two, and then turns three, you just dive. Charlotte. I mean, I've seen it like that. How much I've seen it at least 40 times this year.
Sorry, it was 20,000 on one Friday, 30,000 on one Saturday. So 50,000 combined. But yeah, it's like, I didn't understand why he was so.
Yeah. I was a little perplexed too. I was like reading, you know, over 10 comments. I get it. But I just like, yeah, look like a racing deal to me.
Well, and, you know, and I think part of this, he's, I mean, look, look at it over 10 a couple of years ago. He was the big king. And now I didn't, I hate say it, but because I like over 10, I think he's cool.
But he's been kind of irrelevant the last two years. Struggle bus for sure. Yeah, I mean, he's one of those guys. It's just, you know, look at he's winning all the big shows and stuff for a while. And I mean, it's like, there's a lot of me. He means if they missed it.
You know, and I think that this is all leads up is actually having a half ass decent run. But yeah, I mean, I didn't understand why he got that upset. I mean, I've seen people cut people off nonstop.
Yeah, so over 10 just going through dirt under a little bit says he wasn't mad that Pierce turned left. I was mad at cut my tire. So I want to turn one blow out smoke the wall destroyed the car.
Yeah, I agree. I mean, I get it. But yeah, it's kind of one of those. You see a lot in modern day racing. And, you know, I don't know, look like a kind of a racing deal to drivers going for it kind of thing.
Obviously, emotions are high regardless. But down the demport didn't care because he won 50 grand on the weekend. Yeah, you know, had a track that chance to win the title. Yeah, he was close. Yeah, he ended up what six points behind Bobby Pierce, because he had to do he had to do.
And then, you know, Bobby Pierce, you know, was looking a little a little close there for a while, but made it happen. So he added $75,000 on to his, you know, whatever, 225,000 or 200,000 word of outlaw title.
Well, that's two last three years. Pierce is one or the flow night in America title in the world outlaw. Yeah, one of both the same. Yeah, I was reading article kind of wrapping up Bobby Pierce's championship season.
And he said, you know, kind of when his dad is racing, they didn't really follow series a lot, being Illinois, he said, but the way the economics are now, you know, do this for a living and and staying on top. It's, you know, for the money, he's following a series is the way to go for now. So I think you'll be seeing.
So nine and one deal, dude, it's what 10 races 12 races, 12 races, yeah, 70 if you have perfect test in 75,000, then it drops to 25,000. Yeah, but still yeah.
It's pretty good money. Yeah, if you're JD, you won as much as Bobby Pierce did, you know, like, he won 75 grand for two races and the second place and obviously Pierce had winnings from the races, but the 75 grand championship was the big thing.
And I like Bobby's interview that his ass team is like,
we yeah, I'm gonna go for it.
He says that $50,000 difference for a small team like us
or you know, family, family team, but that's a motor.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, Floor Racing Night, America Championship wrapped up.
Uh, I gotta point out our buddy, Chris Ferguson won, uh,
Cherokee, the Freddie Smith Memorial.
He did on the day after that.
Yeah, on the Sunday after.
So shout out to one of the Fergie time.
15 grand, I believe.
I think it was.
Yep.
Yeah.
15 grand.
Our buddy, uh, Honeycutt and Armstrong was there.
Yeah.
Ken Bob.
Ken Bob.
I saw Ken Bob's pictures.
Yeah.
Um, it's going through the Jumble Eye 100 was this past weekend.
Spencer Hughes.
Yeah.
Slipped by Stucky, uh, to get the win.
Was that $7,500 I think to win?
So not a bad day.
Um, Casey Roberts won on LaVonia.
I think that one was $10 grand to win.
So, yeah, still some racing down south.
Sorry.
Roberts was five grand.
Do you want I was thinking of his need more, which was $10 grand to win?
Uh, where Jeremy Steele won.
So a lot of stuff going on still just outside of our area.
Needless to say.
Let me look at you.
On Clarksville, we talked about that closing down.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, the drag strips racing next year.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Our Tennessee resident listeners catching it up on some of our podcasts.
And he's like, hey, and, um, yeah, I guess they're widening some of the streets or the whatever.
There's one of the main reasons.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, yeah, then they're going to put, but yeah, dirt tracks are going to be closed down.
But the drag strip is going to race next year.
Nice.
Makes lots.
So it's always good.
Mm-hmm.
It's always fun.
So, uh, some schedules have been released since our last podcast.
So that's, uh, first one that was like,
Really?
Then I get to release it after we record.
But the word of all the late models schedule.
Yes.
Came out for next year.
Yeah, I bought it out of my way home, I think.
Yeah, it was, uh, yeah, well, really too close for us.
But, uh, whatever.
We'll talk about it now.
Yeah, they just know we're recording.
Um, but yeah, they start off in.
Sorry.
January.
Uh, at Volusia, then their February dates at Volusia, which is now the start of speed weeks.
Because all the Lucas oil dates have moved past three weeks.
Overlapping speed week dates with Lucas oil.
They moved to Henry County down in Southern Florida, down by Lake Okachovie.
Go through Tennessee.
In mid March towards the end of March, you go to Magnolia Motor Speedway.
And then East Alabama, Sonoa, April 10th and 11th.
The farmer city.
Talladega short track.
Didn't go to Iowa.
Wisconsin.
Iowa way.
Forty K to win up at Mississippi Thunder.
First weekend in May.
Again.
Uh, they go through Pennsylvania for through or Delaware, Pennsylvania, in middle of May.
Wayne County Speedway.
Back on the schedule, the Thursday before, uh, Mansfields two dates Friday, Saturday.
So that would be a cool little trip through Ohio.
West Virginia Motor Speedway hasn't for two dates after the dream.
Back up to Wisconsin, Minnesota.
That's their, uh, you know, western swing they do up through Grand Forks and Dakotas and all that.
Deer Creek has the.
Forty K to win.
What's it called?
The big one.
There used to be a Lucas race.
Go for.
Yes.
Go for 50, I believe.
Sponsored by Napa.
Always a big Napa race figure.
You know that one.
Sharon Speedway, middle of July for two nights.
Like they've done last few years.
Uh, then the Prairie dirt classic at the end of July.
Fairberry Cedar Lake has the USA Nationals again.
100 K to win.
Uh, Mocha Keta, Iowa.
See I learned how to say the name a little better.
In August at the end of August.
Southern Iowa Speedway to go to Oscar Luce.
Yeah.
The 26th of August.
I guess the first visit there.
Uh, then they go to Adams County Shelby County, Iowa.
Now we're into it.
That looks like a little nice little trip, I think.
Which one?
Uh, Oscar Luce, uh, Adams County and Shelby County.
Uh, yes.
How about an Oscar Luce?
I don't know if you've been there.
Uh, end of September, I 55 for two nights.
That's pretty cool.
Boothill and Louisiana again.
First week in October.
Then they go to Little River Speedway, Mocha, South Carolina,
at the end of October.
Taking over to the dirt track.
Charlotte beginning of November.
So the World Wide Finals.
I do like their schedule.
We'll talk about Lucas's here in a little bit.
Because that obviously came out.
I kind of like world of all schedule a little better.
Um, but still, you know, kind of the same.
Obviously West Virginia being on there.
Mansfield being on there.
You know, bummer for us is a few eye all ones.
None of our local tracks signed up once again, you know,
which we kind of was whole for.
But well, and I was going to talk about it during the Lucas one is.
I had one of our local tracks telling me if they was checking
into a Lucas one and thought, you know,
thought that was the better route to go and was really looking at.
So unlike they was.
Working on a date, but I see when the Lucas oil thing came out.
Like no false.
I mean, far be it for.
Uh, one of our local sprint car tracks to actually have a national
late model race to get a profit like they do off of a national
sprint car race.
Yeah.
Let's say we'll just have a local show and go.
I wonder why the crowd's not that big.
I wonder why everybody's burnt out after 87 years of the same.
Schedule thing.
Yeah.
So Lucas oil schedule just came out yesterday or a couple days ago.
I should say, but they start after.
Uh, Volusia in February, they started all tech for a few nights.
And then they go to Ocala for a few nights after that.
Then beginning of March takes them up to Golden Isle.
Uh, and then end of March into Ohio for atomic speed wave.
The atomic browns town weekend, which is the ice breaker weekend.
Uh, April, only three races in April.
Georgetown, Baps and Haggerstown.
So Baps 25,000 to win late model race at Baps.
That's pretty cool.
That's the first time they've been there.
Yep.
That's the first time track for them.
May they come back to Circle City Raceway and Indian app outside
of Indianapolis.
That's cool.
They had a good word about laws.
I think we're there a couple of years ago.
Well, Lucas.
Lucas too.
Last year, but the track was sodium dry.
Hopefully they.
Yeah.
Hopefully it don't rubber up and not so dry.
And then Florence after that.
Uh, farmer city in February, May 8th and 9th, which is usually part
of the Illinois speed week.
Uh, Eagle Raceway, Eagle in Nebraska, the weekend after three
days show 50,000 to cap it off.
Memorial Day weekend out to Lucas, Loyal Speedway.
Show me 175,000 to win.
June, uh, 19th and 20th, Smokey Mountain Speedway for two shows,
uh, 10,000, 30,000 to win.
Uh, end of June, Firecracker 100.
Learnerville Speedway, 50,000 to win there.
Back to atomic, Mesquigam, uh, 4th of July weekend.
Like they've usually done the last few times.
Uh, 34 Raceway, Lucas, Loyal Speedway, another double header.
That would be a perfect time for a free motor advocate.
And they're that July.
Yeah, you think.
Um, and then, uh, Shelby County, as we just mentioned,
and Iowa track, but they are hosting the Silver Dollar National
this year.
So three, four nights of race in 52,000 to win on the finale.
Florence gets the North South 100 beginning of August, uh, 75,000 to win.
Batesville, the topless, Port Royal, the rumble by the river in, uh,
end August.
Excuse me.
Uh, then we go on September, no Labor Day weekend races.
Not yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no Hill billy hundred down the schedule.
Yeah.
Uh, cause their next race after Port Royal at the end of August is Knoxville Raceway.
So that's 75,000 to win this year.
Then the Browns town for two days.
Pittsburgh or outdoors two day show this year for 50,000.
And then October 16, 17th.
What's Virginia Motor Speedway with the dirt track world championship?
So yeah, no Labor Day, no Hill billy.
I don't know if it's.
If they're working on something or like,
yeah, world all laws don't have the Hill bill either.
It's not like it switched the outlaws or something.
Yeah.
Is it going to be a non sanction show?
I'm going to say is, is Carl Short just going to have it with the open.
You know, open.
Sorry, let me look at something here because I,
the steel blocks are going to be at the dirt track world championship.
Gotcha.
And so's like, I think Hornets one night or something.
And they're adding a few because I kind of looked at that because I.
But yeah, maybe I'll go to it.
Yeah, I think they got Hornets.
One night steel block, one night's Hornets.
And maybe some other stock cars the one night.
Yeah.
So neither series is racing Labor Day weekend.
Yeah.
So, you know,
Adora always has the Ironman race, which is two features.
So you'll probably have a good car count for that.
But that's always on Sunday.
Yeah, you shouldn't.
So if the Hill billy goes on sanction this year,
maybe that's, you know, maybe it'll help some things.
But it depends where they have it, obviously.
Yeah, I'd be interested if it's on sanction.
Yeah, and I'm surprised, uh, being that the dirt track is moving back
to West Virginia, more speedway to hillbilly back to West Virginia,
right?
Like that would kind of make sense.
But you would think I don't know.
Are they waiting for Pennsboro?
Because I've seen Pennsboro had a thing that Fairboard's still going to pursue it
after the truck got out of there.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think that would be a option.
I mean, on sanctioned.
Yeah, on sanctioned hillbilly, not a Lucas Oil race, put it that way.
But yeah, that was a interesting one to see.
And I didn't pay attention much last year at Learnerville.
If they had a good crowd bet car counts, like I didn't really notice.
So the little billy 100 learned will just make sense.
No, it was a little off.
It was just a little off.
I always liked it Tyler County.
Yeah, I mean, that race has to be to me and Southern.
You know, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, somewhere.
Yeah.
Somewhere in that region.
Somewhere hillbilly like.
Well, I guess.
Yeah.
But no, I mean, it's just a Southern.
Yeah.
It's just a Southern race.
I mean, moving it, it'd be like moving it to I 96.
Yeah.
Well, and I was surprised like a, which, you know, Elkins came back this year and
or I can't remember which one's Elkins or I 77 and whatever.
The guys that run.
Let's join in.
West Virginia more speedway took over those.
So maybe it ends up there, which it's been there before.
Right.
So I mean, I wonder if it's going to be an addition or maybe it'll be a late addition to
the Lucas oil.
Or maybe it'll just be like the heart of a, ultimate heart of America or, you know, whatever.
But if it pays good money, you may get guys showing up.
So.
Possibly.
Yeah, never.
No.
But yeah, Lucas oil scheduled to me was a little.
Yeah.
It was okay.
But a little bland.
Yes.
A little bland.
If I can't believe there wasn't an Attica or a Fremont on there.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
I can believe it.
Well, I can't believe it, but I just don't get it.
And I guess, and I've seen a couple other people.
It seems to me.
Some of these three day shows everywhere.
How many of those can you have be successful?
Yeah.
I mean, it's a lot for the drivers and teams.
I get that.
Well, they don't have to travel as far.
They're racing three to butt for the track.
I mean, if all you're going to start doing is get three day big events.
One's the tracks because I mean, yeah, some of the tracks would be good.
But not every single track's going to do good on three day events.
Yeah.
I mean, people can only handle spending, you know, 80, 90 bucks for a weekend ticket.
Right.
It's so long.
So I mean, you think you could get a few more tracks.
So I don't think there would be plenty of tracks in one of them.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I think the world all day, my schedule is better.
There's a little more diverse for sure.
And they picked up a guy.
Tremels.
Mm-hmm.
Going for rookie.
And Cory Hedgecock has gone race for Lucas with the Hicks car.
So yeah, Hedgecock for Lucas.
Tremels for World Outlaws.
Other schedule release.
The All Star Circuit of Champions released their schedule.
I don't know.
I have not looked at it that close.
I looked at it and said, okay, there it is.
But did not look at it that close.
So they start out at an April.
Go to atomic on the 18th of April.
Go to Kokomo for two nights in May.
It's a co-sanction with high limits.
Co-sanction with high limits.
Okay.
And that's not the same weekend as let's race two, is it?
No.
Okay.
That's what I think.
Same weekend as a AFCS at Fremont in the Attica.
Gotcha.
Then they go to Mercer Wayne County for Memorial Day weekend.
And then Lawrence Berg for a random one off Friday show.
Co-sanction as well.
Yep.
Go to Pennsylvania beginning of June.
Then Speed Week starts at Attica.
June 12th.
13th goes to Sharon.
Sunday the 14th goes to Milstream.
Monday the 15th at Wayne County.
Al Dora again on the Tuesday night.
Wednesday the 17th is a rain date.
Thursday.
June 18th is at Wayne's Field Friday the 19th at Fremont.
Then they wrap it up the 20th at Atomic Speedway.
Higher paying races, 7,500 or 10,000 to win.
Yeah, there's only a few $5,000 win.
Most of them are 75,000 or more.
Yeah, so then they go to Hartford Friday July 31st.
Yeah, they don't have a race in July so for that one.
August 7th, they go to New York in the 8th in New York.
I 96 on the 21st Butler on the 22nd of August.
Then back should be the Chuck Wilson Memorial this year.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
Our next year.
August 28th at New York Saturday 29th back to Sharon.
Labor Day weekend, they started at Attica.
Go to Wayne County Saturday.
Yeah, Attica don't have two days this year.
Wayne County does.
Yeah, Wayne County has them on Sunday.
And then the 18th, the 19th at Fremont is the Jim Ford Classic.
And then they wrap their season up October 2nd at Mercer.
And Saturday, October 3rd at Wayne's Field Wednesday Park.
10K to win.
Yeah.
A little bit of a change.
Nothing too crazy on there.
The July 31st race at Hartford.
I think there's going to be some addition to that.
I was going to say because it's just a Friday by itself.
I was like, that's kind of weird.
But there's going to be some addition to that.
As far as for the Friday race or having a Saturday date.
For the Friday race.
Oh, okay.
It might lead into something on Saturday.
But I know for the Friday racers.
As far as what?
Like more money or another series or.
I don't know if you get released.
Well, what?
You know, something's going to get added to it.
There's a fucking race at Hartford Streetway.
What the fuck else are we going to add?
We're going to add what are we doing?
Is Duane showing up with fucking bag of money or something?
What's going on?
Maybe.
Why the fuck would you go to Hartford?
We got a casino real close.
Yeah, that'd be the only reason.
So apparently insider Duane, Friday July 31st.
It's going to be more information.
There's going to be more, there's sprint cars.
But more than sprint cars apparently.
Yeah.
I haven't been Hartford.
I ain't steal anybody's thunder.
But they'll just watch that date.
Watch that date.
Yep.
Yeah, I would just think about the all-star schedule, I guess.
I mean, it's basically what I thought.
They're up to 32 races.
I mean, they're still trying to keep it a working man's deal.
They want to keep it within five hours of free mat,
which they pretty much do.
Williams Grove.
Yeah.
I can be there in six and a half hours.
I mean, I got a pull race car there in five hours.
I think in Freedom, New York.
Freedom.
I mean, I had a few questions because a couple of them
are going to be racing against AFCS when I got our dates.
One, we're going to be racing against the Ohio.
And I'm going to put it out there.
And I kind of brought that up the other day.
I'm like, you really want to have AFCS at free mat?
It seemed like you got a all-star show at Atomic.
I was like, yeah, I won't make a difference.
OK.
Would that be the 18th?
Yeah.
That's usually your opening weekend, didn't it?
Yes.
Yeah.
It is our opening weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So right out of the gate, it's like, I like, is this an error?
So I guess here's an error.
I know we kind of read some of the rules as we were talking
about their point situation, but you were just at the banquet.
So the owner points fund is what gets paid more money
or the money or...
I think it's...
So just...
I think it's half and half, I don't know.
Is it 50-50?
I'm really certain it is.
OK.
I say we talked about it, but I was like...
Yeah, guys, this year is different because KL Thomas
got the owner while 49X, donors and...
KL got the driver.
Drivers.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's split two different trophies.
Gotcha.
And everything.
Yeah.
So if you finish first in the owners and second in the drivers,
you got paid for first in the owners and second for drivers and...
OK.
So you're not only getting...
I mean, it's kind of weird, right?
But at the same time, it's not too bad because you're still bringing home
some decent money, I would think.
Yeah.
The other...
No, I didn't think it was that bad.
I just hope that maybe in the Wednesday rain date that it had
made its field for some week.
Yeah.
You think that guy jumped on it?
I mean, you know, and...
Here's the thing.
So we all know how this goes, basically.
Speed weeks about the same time.
Jim Ford Classics have been the same weekend for, what,
15, 20 years?
Wow, yeah.
25 years.
You know, in my AFC...
AFC schedule, you pretty much know what it is,
because we've had it for seven years.
And it's pretty much the same weekends as we have all the time.
It might...
It might be an extra week or, you know, one weekend off,
because of how the calendar falls or something.
So, you know...
It doesn't surprise me that I may not be able to get on here
because you look at the race in a two-day show against the Jim Ford Classic.
Well, everybody knows that's the Jim Ford Classic weekend.
That was my next note.
OK.
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
But there's a lot of...
So, it doesn't surprise me.
I mean, I thought maybe they'd have a few Indiana shows,
since High Limit was an Indiana.
Maybe they'd get like a...
And I know...
I actually talked to Rich about it and he goes,
dude, he goes, I just can't...
I can't get any.
He goes the only way I could get him's co-sanction with High Limits.
Hmm, it's no Lincoln Park, no Bloomington.
Let's try the other one.
Paragon.
Paragon.
Yeah.
I mean, Terahode even.
Yeah.
He goes, I've tried.
He goes, I've tried to get a little weekend over there, and they just...
Yeah, because they went to Bloomington last year.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Huh, kind of a bummer.
Yeah.
Which we know wing sprint cars in Indiana is just kind of weird.
Yeah.
Which co-cum-all should be good.
Co-sanction with High Limits.
Yeah, was that supposed to work?
I mean, all stars done it one.
Stewart had the organization and one guy, who I've had the organization, but those guys were
full-time professional.
Yeah.
You had Dean.
You had, you know...
Lawson Marshall.
Yeah, Lawson Marshall.
Right, so...
Yeah.
Hoffman's team.
Yeah.
And, you know, now you have...
It's basically all fame, they're in teams.
Yeah.
So, I mean...
Yeah.
Yeah, so speaking of man's field, they released their schedule.
As they announced Saturday, May 2nd is their opener.
They got Iron Man late models for 5K.
They got fast sprint cars for 5K and then modifies for 2K.
They do a night of destruction the next day.
Monster trucks in May.
Then they do a comeback classic.
The middle of May, the 15th.
Yes, the 15th.
5,000 win late models, but it looks like it's unsanctioned.
5K to win sprint cars.
Oh, that's a rain date from the...
Sorry.
Yeah, that's a rain date.
That's the rain date.
Okay.
Then they go to their 57 special, the word of all late models,
which is 57,000 to win on the 30th.
So the 20th and 20th.
51700 to start, too.
Yeah.
It pays big start money.
But it's the 29th and 30th.
And obviously the 28th is that Wayne's field.
Wayne County late models, word of all, date.
So good weekend right there in Central Ohio of racing.
And then they have a truck fest.
It's beginning of June, end of June.
They do the summer sprint car opener.
Fast boss racing a two-day show.
The Freedom 250 festival, some demo Derby, tractor pull stuff
like that, some arena cross in July.
Little go kart race looks like in July.
Next sprint car race, the end of July.
Two-day show, open oil championship with fast and boss.
With some mods on the cards, end of July,
last weekend in July, first day of August.
Super dirt car, big blocks, be on hand.
On a Tuesday, August 11th for 12,000 to win.
They aren't sharing the next day.
I was gonna say that.
Let's time up with something else, I'd imagine.
The GLSS 360 is coming to town on 828 for 2500 to win.
And then the October Fest sprint car special,
is the same weekend as the gym Ford as Dwayne was talking.
At October Fest in the middle of September.
Yeah, you got September 18th, 19th, fast and boss for two nights there.
And then the surprise which turned into a three-race deal in Ohio,
the NOS energy sprint cars.
World of all sprint cars on hand Friday, the 9th of October at Mansfield.
Then they go to Milstream the next night.
Milstream on Thursday.
Milstream on Thursday.
Mansfield on Friday, Saturday, Sharon.
Sharon.
Okay, so we got three word about law dates.
That aren't Aldora.
Yes.
Or Attica in October here in Ohio.
Yeah.
And that first weekend in May that they're racing fast, they're opener.
Yup.
It's gonna be against the World of Laws at Sharon in May.
Yup.
They're July end of July there.
Yeah.
The 7-31-8-1 weekend.
Yeah, that isn't too bad.
We got AFCS at Attica that Friday.
But yeah, it's, I mean, you're gonna have some stepping on some toes,
but it'll be interesting.
Got to get some gym-forward classic, going against outlaws at Sharon.
I don't know.
Well, I know that the second of May is usually Oak Shades opening weekend
for late models as well.
Not to say that's a huge effect, but you know,
there's some guys that'll definitely be at Mansfield over Oak Shade on that weekend.
So you'll have some of that happening all through the summer,
but I mean, I get some of it during the summer,
but like when you hit big weekends like the gym-forward classic
and you got Sharon outlaws that, I don't know.
I mean, will there be some cars there?
100% because not everybody wants to race the gym-forward classic.
Not everybody wants to race Sharon World outlaw show.
The problem is, you guys split the field some,
and I think this is going to be a very pivotal year for a local sprint car racing,
because there's only 14 tracks now that race weekly,
probably 4-10 sprint cars in the whole United States.
Obviously, there's some 360s stuff, but it's down to 14.
And we'll see what happens when a couple of the schedules come out,
because a couple of those talked about scaling back a little bit.
So when you have a Sharon that runs, you know,
not quite basically weekly,
and why are you going up against a big show when you got plenty of weekends?
You know, I mean, yes, you'll get some cars, but the thing I'm as fans,
may as well as probably going to lock out first few shows,
because everybody wants to go back there.
It's the new kid on the block, Dion.
Let's see, but it shouldn't really hurt the outlaws, crowd, but still,
you're dividing, don't go against too many big shows,
because there'll be a good money way not to get your millions back that you spent.
Well, and I'd say the other thing,
Mansfield's got to prove quick is their track surface.
So that first opening weekend,
opening Saturday night,
and you got the outlaws in town at Sharon,
which we know has a competitive track,
especially for lower budget teams to be competitive on.
You know, I was paying a lot more money.
I feel like your cars, sprint cars,
will sway more toward Sharon.
Fan-wise, like you said, maybe okay,
I feel like a lot of sprint car guys are going to go,
well, we know Sharon's good for it.
Yeah, we have no clue what,
and you know,
and one of the things I was told,
if I'm not just one person, but several,
I mean, there's a conference call with all these tracks
and hey, here's one of the big shows are going to be,
you know, it would probably be best if you don't schedule anything big during them
and we see how far that went.
To me, that's not a good look to start.
Yeah, and I know with Matt Tiff running it,
like he's not well versed in the dirt world.
Obviously he's not looking at counters.
Doesn't know those counters like we do by heart.
And we know he's hired some people that he's had to let go,
who, you know, would probably schedule over anything and everything
just to be an asshole.
You know?
You need proper guidance.
Yeah.
Because I want to see him succeed.
You know, we need both places to see.
Yeah.
And schedule.
I mean, I think it'll be interesting since we're against the Jim Ford Classic.
I think that's going to be one that's going to,
especially that time of year.
Yeah.
You're going to start dividing cars.
I mean, Jim Ford Classic only had low 30s.
And you take some way that you're going to get, you know,
20 at Mansfield and 25 at Fremont.
Well, not to mention.
But the crowds.
You know, I don't know.
We don't know what Wayne County's schedule is like.
Right.
I think County's not real far in the race Saturday night's print car.
So, you know, or Sharon's full schedule because there's some against that.
I can tell you there's something to say.
FCS weekends.
Yeah.
And we know Sharon can get 35 almost 40 cars for some of their races.
You know, they put it, had a good reputation last few years.
So what, uh, what about that?
I don't know.
Well, how will it turn out?
We'll see, I guess.
But.
Yeah.
And then you're the new person coming in to find dates right now.
Like the last 10 years, you can't just schedule anything you want.
Like you have to go through.
Right.
And make sure you're not stacking up.
So.
Right.
We'll see what happens.
You know, not sure.
I know there's some calls made like, okay, here's some big ones.
See you can do.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
It'll be, like I said, we'll see how it goes.
And we get a lot of sprint cars racing throughout the state of Ohio,
but we just added another track now.
And you know, Tom, excited and car track, too.
And a good thing about it is, uh, you know, as we know, local sprint car racing is in a very,
um, I want to say state of emergency spot that it almost is in the state because I mean,
it's, it's harder and harder to race, you know, weekly, local 410,
the family ran local teams.
But having an abundance of shows sometimes on the same weekend,
you're just going to be more guys are going to pay bigger money.
If you split the fields, but it's not best case scenario for anybody because you're going to get half,
you know, half here, half there and same with the crowd.
But, uh, hopefully it'll be a blessing where, you know, some of the guys might,
hey, I can get a little bit more money and they will.
I think there are going to be a B main head of place.
And so hopefully it'll all work out.
Yeah.
Hope she'll see.
And as we know, weather plays use factor.
Yeah, that's true.
And as you said, uh, one of the first things they're going to establish at Mansfield is track conditions
because the three years that was open the last time there was only,
maybe one or two really night nights of track condition was good.
The rest were very questionable.
And we know they got new clay down.
So, you know, from same place to that.
That was working it.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot there to that just because you have new clay knows good.
Doesn't mean tracks going to be any good.
So, um, we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
It's all we can do is wait, I guess.
But, uh, yeah, I mean, we want them to succeed.
We want Mansfield around.
Yeah.
It's, it's your one, you know, and so many times can you resurrect place?
Yeah.
That's, I think their location has just been kind of a pain.
I don't know about that.
Since it went out like logistically, it's not bad.
But as far as core racing in that area, it's just really taken a hit.
You know, Wayne County is still there.
So that's good.
Otherwise, you got a hilltop.
If you're getting down to Millersburg.
And then you got to go over to Sharon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mansfields in the middle.
But with so many established tracks around, right?
This is going to be tough.
Right.
And that's why it's a special event only place, which they're still pretty much a special event
only.
Yeah.
But he's got monster trucks and other shipments.
Exactly.
Bring it across.
Um, and stuff like that, which is good.
And that's what he needs.
Mm-hmm.
And I suppose he's going to have some concerts because I want to interview that.
That's what kind of floors me about the schedule is.
Like, what was that?
Two weeks ago he came out.
So he's going to have a hundred and some nights of entertainment at the place.
And then the race schedule was kind of like.
There's not a lot of races.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Doing demolition Derby and Rina Cross, which he said.
I know they've talked about some flat track motorcycles.
And they're talking some other stuff.
So.
Yeah.
And then fall.
He's doing the haunted house shit.
So, you know, we know how that goes.
Supposedly, there might be some concerts, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Um, but moving on.
This will be one Dwayne's excited to talk about what we do.
We didn't do anything.
Well, we opened our big mouths, but we're right.
XR promotions.
Oh.
Going through a little turmoil.
Maybe.
Many people are wondering what's going on with XR?
Well, I think we kind of got the answer.
Oh, you mean the truck that don't worry about the money, Dwayne?
Don't worry about the money.
Mm-hmm.
You guys shut up.
Don't worry about it.
It's there.
Oh, it was.
Where's that?
Not to drivers.
And if he has Kyle Strickler.
Mm-hmm.
He is not kind of paid for the 125,000 in.
300 and some thousand owed to drivers.
And this don't even have anything to do with the drivers.
Yeah, this is just an investment group.
Yeah.
And it sounds like he owes Pensber a lot of money.
Yeah.
I saw, yeah, Richie County was on there, too.
Yeah, it sounds like there's several more lawsuits from all the guy with all the money and all the answers.
I love it when people get cocky and then step on their dick and get thrown in jail.
Yeah.
And I should bake him a cake with a mill finger, not a file with a shank.
Um, Barry Braun, XR promoter head was arrested on warrants from I think a couple different areas.
But Richie County, West Virginia, which is where Pensboro is.
From what?
Now I don't know because I'm not a lawyer.
Before I've heard since this multiple states, it's federal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we know Kyle Strickler talked about racing up and was that Minnesota?
Yeah, I believe so.
The big modified race they had 125,000 when I think it was.
And Kyle Strickler said, never got paid.
Never even got a damn trophy out of it.
Well, the $100,000 deal at Kochamall hasn't got paid.
Oh, for the compacts.
Yep.
There's three states.
Yeah.
We know all tech was supposed to have a big crowned Vic race that obviously didn't go through.
Yeah.
So anyway, all poor, Barry, I feel I feel terrible.
Yeah.
The warrants were obtained steeply investigation September and covert of pattern fraudulent activity and deception.
So what?
West Virginia state police.
So yeah, it's like they're asking anyone who's been a victim of a crime involving Brown to contact law enforcement.
So they're still pointing.
Oh, well, there's guys who's talking.
Yeah, I think it paid seven years ago.
Yeah.
Like one guy on there like, oh, he was so great to me.
He paid me.
Yeah.
And a lot of people said, you know, we knew he took time to pay people.
So that's why they would go to a race.
Yeah.
It may take time, but we'll get paid.
So.
Yeah, but that's right up.
Like we all knew it would.
Yeah.
I think it's me.
I love it when he is all cocky about it.
And, you know, and.
Yeah.
So told my wife I would go, he was in the podcast at least once or twice because he heard the episode.
We were saying, this math ain't math and us, but, you know, maybe we're missing something.
And he commented on a post saying, you know, oh, XR is doing great and thriving and streaming revenues.
But I'm like, okay, I guess everyone the brothers buying the streaming service.
Is he still in jail?
He had to get extradited to West Virginia.
So.
Whatever comedy it is, I should call him.
See if they'll put on the podcast one.
Yeah.
Hey.
You're like, hey, this guy really likes this.
Don't drop soap.
Hope he got soap on the rope.
He's only.
He's been charged.
He has not.
He's innocent.
Don't prove guilty to Wayne.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's innocent.
Yeah.
So.
I mean, he likes doing.
He likes doing the screw and maybe he's going to get the screw and money.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I saw like his wife's named in it, too, because they used money for themselves, not for what?
I mean, come on.
Not a straight shooter like that.
I know.
Maybe he's getting some of his money from warrior chassis, because that guy sure is hugging his nuts.
Yeah.
Two professionals.
That's all I can say.
That's right.
Anyway.
Yeah.
I knew Dwayne would love to glow on that one a little bit.
So.
I can't.
I'm just shocked.
I just.
Yeah.
I just.
I mean, we all.
I say we all mean Dwayne, we're both the same opinion.
You watch the highlights.
You see there's no fans in the stands.
There's 22 cars in the pits.
You're paying $30,000, $50,000 a win.
How is this working?
It's working.
Well, and just like the compact deal, $100,000.
You limited it to 200 cars.
I mean, right.
There's business stupidity.
101.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's $500 entry fee.
So I'm going to limited it to 200 cars.
Okay.
There's my pay money.
But I'm going to pay all this other money.
You could have had.
And okay.
Maybe it's because of.
Well, we don't want 400 cars because we're going to put them all.
But why are you limited?
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you want every car that you can get?
Mm-hmm.
At $500 entry.
Oh, look.
We actually made money.
Maybe we could pay so instead we're, you know.
Yeah.
We're having a big dick swinging contest.
Because look at us.
We're paying all this money.
Well, guess what?
No, you really didn't.
Yeah.
You're paying it.
But obviously we're paying the people back for it.
And it provides me of a dumb and dumber.
Hey, this briefcase is full of IOUs.
Where does our bond?
Yeah.
Where does our bond?
Yeah.
IOU, one Ferrari.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting development there.
So you're saying there's a chance.
So you're saying there's a chance.
Um, other controversial subject.
And doing maybe able to speak more intelligently on this than me.
Oh, God.
Oh, you will be.
I got speak intelligent in something controversial.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe you don't find it controversial.
Some of the drivers did.
But word of outlaw sprint cars had some rule changes.
Lots of hubbub around that.
So I guess I don't know if it's controversial.
All I'll say is.
That's who you talk to.
I was going to say all I'll say is.
A slight model people went through this shit.
However many years ago when a guy burned a death in a race car.
The next year we had to get external kill switches.
The fire suppression system.
All that shit.
I do not remember.
Most of the guys are bitching about is because.
And I don't remember us bitching about it that much.
I'm sure guys didn't like it, but.
They spent the 700 or $1,000 and called it good.
Well.
Teams are trying to say it's going to cost them $2,000 a month.
These fuel cells different.
Yeah.
But I've also heard there's companies that have like an adapter kit to do it.
That doesn't cost over a couple hundred bucks.
Yeah.
So I don't.
So there was the fuel cell.
You have to mount it six spots six.
Instead of four.
There's a don't want it flying out.
What?
And six was always recommended.
Well, let's think about this.
Yeah.
They're a victim of their own game.
They want a bitch and wine about it.
But they put.
Dude, someone put like cotter pins in to hold some a bitch on.
So then when they fly off and insurance companies go.
This ain't good because.
Yes.
And I've seen everybody's equal.
I've never seen a guy get hit by one yet or never seen one in the crowd yet.
I see one fly over the crowd years ago at military and land in a pickup truck.
I've seen him.
So, okay.
So we'd rather have it happen and kill somebody or hurt somebody.
Yeah.
That because they're like, well, I've never seen it happen yet.
Well, it's getting close.
Yeah.
We've been very lucky that it hasn't had a big show.
Yeah.
It could easily add some of these big shows.
And.
And I'm talking some tracks.
I have the best safety equipment and the best safety fixer is.
Well, I mean, we saw Bill Baylock two years ago as rear end in.
Fucking fuel cell about cleared the fence.
Exactly.
So that's one of them I'm talking about.
Yeah.
You know, so it's just.
So.
Outlaws in.
I've heard insurance companies are bad.
Just like the six bolts.
There's already a groups.
There's a like the race savers or somebody already has that.
They're like, well, now we got to do this to our rims.
Not understand, but some of the lower team like one of the guys race here.
And that's been our rule for a couple of years.
And.
You know, it's just a safety deal.
Yeah.
No more zoos fasteners for wheel covers.
Yeah.
Late models.
Late models.
We've been doing that for how many years now?
I think you sack as to.
Yeah.
For a couple of years.
Pretty sure you sack is.
The driver side panel.
That's a new one.
It's got to be higher.
Yeah.
That's nothing.
Yeah.
I think the biggest bitches are saying, well, it's costing us all this money.
But I think the biggest thing is the fuel cell that's supposed to be.
They said, if you do buy a half buy a new fuel cell or get to do it right, it's like $2,000.
But I've heard there's places making adapter kits.
So why not buy it if there is or why not get a making a adapter and just piece the rule.
Yeah.
And then so I did you see the other one is the left side bar.
Yeah.
Required this year, but they said more than likely will be next year.
So I know that one's kind of a bitch.
I'm sure Tony Bieber is happy to hear that one because he'll probably get a call.
Yeah.
And that's easy.
All you got to do is put a bar in there.
Yeah.
And that's for safety or driver's sake.
I mean, guess what?
25, 30 years ago.
All the shots had that bar.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing.
These cars are getting faster.
Yeah.
And not much has changed on the cockpits.
And then you go to the outdoor and you see what three guys go to the hospital.
Last year, like, well, how many back injuries and stuff has been this year?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because everything's lighter and there's nothing absorb it.
So they want to do a few safety things.
And some of the drivers big bitch.
Well, now if the fuel stall stays on, we're going to catch on fire and burn up.
Can that happen?
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean, light models.
Feel so doesn't go anywhere.
Yeah.
Sorry, drivers.
So I mean, it's maybe a little harsh to say, but better use in someone in the crowd.
Yeah.
You know, like, it's a catch 22, either way.
And the outlaws, you have to have the onboard deal.
And I know some of the local team, because seeing that's where some of the local teams like, this is just another reason for us not to race world outlaws.
Yeah.
Because now we got to add $2,000 to race one time and join it for 150 bucks.
And in Ohio, we got more outlaw races next year than we've had.
Because we got twice the adica.
Well, once the schedule comes out, we got Sharon and May.
We have Eldora.
Let's race two.
Then we got Millstream, Mansfield.
Sharon.
And do we have any more?
I'll Royal.
Royal obviously.
Yeah.
It's Royal week.
But do we have, you know, maybe there'll be another one.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, it's like, I get it, then it's like, well, how long is he going to trickle down for the till the local guys got to have it.
And the thing gets me when it's about safety, I don't get all the complain because we still buy a $50 to $70,000 trailer and, you know, a total home, the pole to three local tracks.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Pit meal.
Got to have the pit meal.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
$25,000, $30,000.
Yeah.
If you find a used one.
Yeah.
2,000 on safety is a big deal.
But we got to have.
There's no reason the local team needs a, especially one that never goes overnight anywhere.
Yeah.
Needs a $50,000 trailer and a, you know, needs a $200,000 totor and a $50,000 pit meal.
I agree.
Holler doesn't make any faster.
Yeah.
Or toolbox.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
No, I just saw a lot of opinions on that one.
I was kind of like, I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
I don't either.
I mean, and I guess to do it right to grand.
I mean, I get it for local teams to grand to grand.
But I will say sprint cars, though, like there's, they have more cars usually.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like a late model team, you know, a local team will have one, maybe two cars.
Sprint car local teams usually have three chassis sit in there, you know, two ready to go, maybe.
Not sure there's going to be a doubt from what I heard.
There's already a couple of dappers or kits in the making are already out there.
So, just by one of those.
Yeah.
No, I just wanted to hear your opinions on that one because yeah, you're right.
Here comes the safety.
You bitch to high.
I was just like one, the whole thing for the 305 wing sliders, you know, like I, they're all
like, well, we can buy them for, let us know because we can go to swap meat and buy them
for $50 to $100 bucks.
So, what happens is we make the rule of first three or four guys go to Kisler's in order, the $4,000
one, then the bitch cuts $4,000.
Well, you guys said you want to make it because you're all going to go to swap meat and buy
a used one instead.
And the first four of four of you go, oh, screw that.
We want them.
We need the high dollar one.
We need to go brand new, baby.
But so that whose fault is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just like that.
It's like, you know, I mean, if things are that bad, maybe not have, you know, some of the
fancy for local.
We granted you in close trailers.
Really, really nice.
But, you don't need a 50 or $80,000 one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a race, you never heard a girl math.
It's like racer math, right?
It's the same kind of thing.
Well, I can't spend the money on the fire suppression system because I got a new pit meal.
I got to put graphics on my pit meal this year for the same amount of money.
So, can't afford that.
You know, it's kind of like girl math except for racer math.
Yeah.
I just put down a t-shirt somewhere.
You should.
Anyway, another fun one to talk about.
I've tried to understand this logically.
And even me and you talking about it before we started recording, like we both heard things
different and see things different.
I'm going to say you're probably right.
But high rollers announced their high roller high limit series announced their high roller
club that gives you cards.
There's not chargers and not franchises.
Hey, your card.
Fine.
Good thing you're in there because you'd be the queen element.
Yeah, that's right.
Hey, I'd be making decent money though.
Yes.
But, yeah, most queens do.
More or less charter or franchise system, but you can't really sell it.
It sounds like it's pretty much a lock into your rolling average.
You're supposed to be able to sell it.
I think the ten are locked in forever.
Supposedly.
Then let's like the five add on.
See, this is where I'm already confused because I thought it was.
It was pretty much your cards based on your two-year points average.
It is.
But like the ten are locked in, locked in.
So you can't do worse than 10th?
Well, by 2028, maybe 15th.
If they add five more.
If they add five.
And that's if they add because you have to have perfect attendance at all the races.
Mm-hmm.
Then there's if you read it, it's like there's all kind of you got to have perfect tennis.
You got to have this.
You got to do this.
I mean, basically.
Yeah, I saw a lot of people saying so you're pretty much like the outlaws.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
No, not at all.
But yeah, so like after Rico will get 425 grand or for next two years.
Monthly during the race season.
So you don't get to pay out at the end of the year.
You get paid during the race season per month.
It sounds like so like it's like 68 grand or a month or something.
Rico will get paid based on where he sits in the high roller club because he's the ace card.
But then it sounds like after two years they go to an average points fund.
I'm sorry.
Points finish up.
Two years.
You're two year average.
So after these next two years, if say Rico has two bad years and he has a seventh place average
over the next two years, then he'll get the seventh place card or whatever.
Yeah, so it's locked for two years.
So my understanding is it's locked.
It's every year it changes, but it's based on a two year average.
So year three, it'll change every year.
Yeah, it's based on a two year average.
So it's kind of the first two years you're locked in.
So the first two years, Rico is going to get first place money no matter what.
Because there's not two year average because it starts 26.
So his two year average is number one for 26 to add.
It'll change in 28.
Yeah, see that doesn't seem right though.
Well, but nobody seems to understand it.
I've seen a lot of comments about, oh, I saw this video to explain it and I'm still confused.
So then your other rollers can get maximum $300,000 that the non points guy.
But then they have to have perfect attendance and they have to do this and that.
And I don't jump through a hoop backwards on one leg or some shit.
I don't know.
I mean, it's yeah.
And then I think was it is clear as mud.
If someone joins next year and they finish top three and points.
Yeah, they can be maybe one of the charters that they might add.
They do get a charter if they finished top three and points next year.
Maybe next two years.
If they decide to add five, it says they could add up the five.
Well, they said there's no guarantee they said they plan on adding five.
But that's if they get five people that actually can qualify.
So it sounds like they're willing to add the five.
It's just a matter of will you get people to show up for the five?
Probably not because it's.
I heard that laws are going to have three rookies next year.
And I heard very good chance.
The Indian Sam's might be one of them.
Oh, gotcha.
So.
So Riko is scared to ace.
Jason Myers is scared.
So.
So for my understanding, 25.
Yeah, see it's supposed to start 26.
So yeah.
So first ten cards are dealt to the high rollers.
He didn't take his glasses off for this one, everybody.
That's how serious this is.
Yeah.
This is how how confusing it is.
It is.
Maybe we're just dumb.
That's also possibility.
No, because everybody says I've had this question eight on.
That's like.
So for my understanding, I'll say what I say, what I think,
and doing shut up for a minute, because you're going to come wrong.
Okay.
But I think they'll do points 2026, Riko gets paid from 25.
At the end of 26, they take the points from 25 and 26 as your average,
and then it changes every year after that,
because they have had a two year average.
Dwayne's not saying that, not understanding it that way.
Yes, as each season, card rankings will be reshuffled among members
based on each team's two year average, finishing points.
Card values which are paid throughout season and independent
of race, person, bonus, monies are set to increase each year through 2029.
Yeah.
So I am about securing the ace for 26 is Riko,
and it's in the top valued member.
KKR.
Okay.
So then a complete breakdown of points for each of the averages.
Cards may be sold or reassigned to another team beginning in 26.
Okay.
So you can sell your.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Or reassign it.
Additionally, Kabota High Limits will offer up to five additional teams
to join the higher alloy club based on their performance across 26 and 27,
so you secure permanent membership.
So see the top ten or are you permanently in?
Perspective teams must maintain perfect attendance for both season,
finishing the top three of points in 26 and 27,
and place among the top eight in both seasons.
Yeah.
If more than five teams qualify,
tie breakers will determine the final selections.
Any cards in remaining will be retained by high limits.
So here's my question.
So they got finished in the top three.
Oh, if you finish in the top three.
So I guess there could be six cars.
So what's three?
No.
No.
So if you finish in the top three.
That's how you add in five.
If you got finished in the top three, both years.
You don't have to.
It's one or the other.
If you finish in the top three and points next year that you're after,
you're automatically getting the charter.
You have to have a four through eighth average over the two seasons.
Otherwise.
So then.
So like Carson Macito comes.
And next year you finish a second and points, he automatically gets a card.
So no, he's got to do it for two years.
You got to do it for twenty six and twenty seven.
You don't get a card until twenty eight.
I feel like you're running on that.
Oh, it says to secure permanent.
Half the additional will offer up the five additional teams based on your performances for twenty six and twenty seven.
To secure this, you must have perfect attendance for both seasons.
Yeah.
Finish in the top three of twenty six or twenty seven point standings or twenty six or twenty seven.
Top three of three.
Yeah.
So of either or place among the top eight.
Yeah.
For both years.
But yeah, you still have to be there.
So yeah.
You still have to do both years.
But if you do the top three points, you get a card, but you still have to kiss their ass.
Yeah, well, you don't get a card until twenty eight.
Correct.
Because you got to do it for two years.
That says and pursue a new membership.
Come out of high limits.
We'll support up to eight full-time teams for the Joker fun, which is going to be one point two million dollars for both twenty six and twenty seven.
Teams will be dealt a Joker card and drug before rankings with payments at the maximum.
A Joker could get three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and twenty six or in twenty seven.
Good.
That was my question on that one.
As many as six Joker cards could carry values of a hundred thousand dollars in each season.
Yeah.
The High Roller Club will shuffle any new issue cards into the deck beginning in twenty eight.
All present member cards will carry forward.
Future member rankings will continue to be based on each two-year average.
For the next two years, he's getting first place points money.
Yeah.
There's no way they can do that.
That's starting in twenty eight.
I don't know.
That doesn't seem right.
But nobody understands it.
So I don't feel that bad.
Yeah.
Don't change to twenty eight.
Because it says that's when they reshuffle cards.
So the new ones are at it.
So Rico gets.
Effort.
For the next two years, he's getting first place points money.
Yeah.
That's starting in twenty eight.
They're doing like every year.
Yeah.
Because they reshuffle all your two-year average.
Yeah.
Which to me means points championships mean jack shit now.
Like, no.
You know what I mean?
Like, you could go out there and suck ass.
You could be in the B main, 90% of the night.
And somebody could be winning.
And they could still be 10th and points.
Or get 10th place money.
Yeah.
This is real.
The cost of entry is very-
The advantage of having a charter man, just like NASCAR.
Yeah.
The barrier of entry is not a deal.
Just an ask car.
Yeah.
Look at them.
They're doing great.
Tony Stewart just came out and shit all over them.
One of our Richard Childress.
Yeah.
Childress.
One day's calling him a dumb hillbilly and a dumb red neck.
Yeah.
A dumb red neck.
And-
Oh, it was NASCAR, everything, for his success.
Yeah.
His success.
It was only because of NASCAR.
Yeah.
I mean, he's looking at Stewart.
Now today's-
Now Stewart Stewart's gonna-
Said they're looking at potential legal action.
So we'll see what that means.
He won't-
He won't file one.
But he'll-
Get with them then.
NASCAR's gonna wonder why they lose people.
Yeah.
Well, that's-
That's the high limit thing when you-
When you do this charter type deal, it's like, oh, it's just like NASCAR.
It's like, well, then you have Tony Stewart saying, you know,
pretty much you got everything you could out of NASCAR.
And-
You know, high-tailed it and said, yeah, we would be in-
In front of NASCAR brass.
It's telling them what we think we need to do to make the sport successful.
And they would say that's 180 degrees from what we think it needs to be.
And then now you see that-
No, he gives a shit about NASCAR anymore.
So.
I mean, it's got some sway.
Don't get me wrong.
But, uh, yeah, I went-
I never cared for that charter thing.
And dirt racing.
So-
And I'm still confused.
Where's all the money coming from?
Because they're gonna be racing for-
Well, not in that.
620,000 dollars eventually.
For that point's fun.
Not in there.
That's so good for the sport.
I mean, they're payouts for the races is decent.
Yeah.
And it gives more people's work.
But the points on these.
Still the top rich teams.
Yeah.
Your top teams that have all the money to begin with.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That ain't going to any of the other teams.
Yeah, I-
I'm just-
Like it's the points.
Number one point.
The ace card holder money.
I guess I'm gonna say it like that.
Whatever is going up every year.
The next four years or whatever too.
So eventually it's supposed to be like 600 grand or 625 grand.
So it's like-
But where's all the money coming from?
I don't know.
Like, Cabot is not that freaking loaded
that they're paying that kind of money.
Flow racing.
I don't see how they can afford to pay it.
Now, I guess, you know, a granite they all have some peace in it.
But, you know.
But as we just retired from full-time racing to run this series,
he's not doing that for free.
I mean, you know, like-
It'll be interesting.
We'll see how long the money holds out.
That's my thing.
At the moment, no.
My long-term thought is flow racing is more or less a tech company.
Now, we interface with them on the racing.
But there are tech companies.
Tech companies get huge cash infusions from investors.
And then they say, look, we're rich.
Well, it's like, yeah, but that's money for you to progress and build and get bigger.
Right.
That's the point to go, okay, you've progressed, got bigger.
What's your ROI?
And then that's when it's like, oh, we're really not making money.
Or we are making money.
And then said investors say, I want my money back, I'm out.
Or here's more money, keep going.
Right.
That's a snowball that just either keeps going.
But eventually seems to get cut off.
So that's my thing.
As a flow is really that invested.
They got long-term investors.
And things go sideways at some point.
Like, that's my concern.
Put me that way.
So it'll be interesting.
I mean, it definitely has more teams getting money, which is good.
Yeah.
I mean, but I mean, still the huge money is going to the teams already had it.
Yeah.
I think we need to quit remembering we're just trying to help sprint car racing or trying to, whatever it was, right?
Remember how I'll start.
We're just trying to help sprint car.
I think we all need to forget that.
Because just act like that was never said.
Because this is just paying more big time teams, big time money, which is fine.
That's fine.
I mean, it's made more professional teams.
As we quoted there a couple weeks ago, more teams made over $100,000 than ever.
Yeah.
So that's a good thing.
But you got to get some of that to these 10th, you know, to these even seventh, eighth, ninth, ninth, ninth, ninth.
Seven to 15th.
I mean, in two years, next year, this year, hell, I don't know.
You, some guy who starts a team wants to race outlaws.
I'm sorry, wants to race national sprint cars.
Who's going to pick outlaw their high limit?
More or less, you have to go outlaws because you can't pay to get into high limits because that's going to be an expensive ass charter.
Well, not like that.
I'm sorry, card.
So if you, you know, the high limit deal is you could be Rico and say things fall apart.
You blow a bunch of engines, you crash, whatever and be have a terrible year.
And you're basically set to 10th, but he still gets high paying money in the 10th place guy can win every show.
And he's getting 100,000.
Rico's getting 450.
Yeah.
That makes no sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be.
There's going to be bonuses for wins and word of the word using this podcast more than anything.
I'm sure it drives people.
That's interesting, right?
Like, it's going to be interesting to see how that goes.
Hey, I'll say this.
I don't want to sound like I'm just we're shitting on the whole idea because I know we're hard on it.
No, I'm glad they're bringing more money.
But they're trying something differently.
Yeah.
I scapped a cold, but I've given the chance.
To me, well, it's more of a bang.
This winged $1,000,000 for race deal for pavement sprint cars, you know, it's $350,000 points fun.
Then each race is going to be, you know, $250,000 per se.
If you want to help everybody, that's how you do it.
Yeah, I don't know.
We'll see how it goes, but yeah, another development sprint car.
You guys are taking over all the drama from the late model guys.
Now, we've got to get to tracks that are competitive.
We've got to get crowds in the stands.
We've got to get some of those calls on the race track.
Not pretend like we haven't had any issues there.
You're paying 400 grand to a points champion, maybe 600 someday.
Better have your shit in order.
So there's a lot of things to straighten up.
I mean, hey, Brad's behind the scenes a little more.
That's probably helpful.
But is he going to be because they have another series now?
They have racetrack still.
He's going to race still.
Yeah, so how much?
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
No, I think it's great that they're bringing more money to the sport.
I'm not sure I like exactly how it's going.
Yeah.
To teams, but I mean, at least, at least when they're racing, and now I was racing too,
you know, there's more local teams getting money that are because, you know,
like we said, it's split in the field.
And there's some guys that's race outlaws that, you know, Garrett Williamson.
Yeah.
Conor Morrell.
Yeah.
Why can't I think of his name, flipper?
Hampton?
Yeah.
Scott Hampton.
Yeah, it's like a Bill Rose, but yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Zach Hampton.
Yeah, Zach Hampton.
Yeah.
That close.
Scott Hampton racing non-wing cars.
Yeah.
Was Zach Hampton, you know, and look how much Zach Hampton's improved this year.
And then because he's on the road.
And then vice versa, Danny Sam's.
Right.
He was a high-limit guy, but race for the most money he's ever probably.
Skylar G.
Yeah.
You know, so it's good because these guys are getting money, you know, that was this kind of
kind of racing on the local scene or a regional scene.
Now they're getting money.
Then you got some high-limit guys at R2.
So that's the good part of it.
Yeah.
Will somebody jump ship?
Will a Danny Sam's jumped outlaws next year?
Rumor is he might.
I don't know.
There's supposed there's three outlaw rookies.
We already know.
Do we know anybody yet?
I don't know.
So I was thinking I was like, I don't know if I've.
Suppose there's going to be three names.
I don't know.
Oh, you don't know now?
No, I don't know.
Well, the hot rumors, Danny Sam's.
Got you.
Got you.
Then how true that is, I don't know.
Yeah.
But right now, suppose there's three was like maybe a, a geniton maybe?
I don't know.
Because power I, that's the deal that paid 50 grand.
Yeah, I paid well.
You know, now you got them sneaking there doing some money that kind of quietly did it.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, who would three could be?
Yeah.
And honestly, I mean, I'm sure there is.
I mean, you know, Pennsylvania's had a lot of right switching.
And Carson McCarles staying at TKS are going to TKS.
Two, two, two TKS or whatever the hell.
Yeah, the number two TKS team.
Yeah.
Then we know Lance Dewey switch rides.
He's in the eight car.
Yeah.
He's going to Zerfaw's going back to his car this full time.
And then she's going to take his own car over from Dewey's.
Yeah.
So.
And then there was a couple more to him.
Yeah, I couldn't keep track of all.
I got a couple on my list, but we just talked about him.
So.
Let's see.
I got it somewhere in here.
Oh, Lane and Crawley.
Do you got that one?
And the beaver.
Beaver 12.
Dutcher.
Dutcher was the other one.
Yeah, for Hank Davis.
Hank Davis.
Yep.
And they said, well, Schaefer don't know our race anymore.
Then Schaefer.
So I kind of like said, well, Schaefer's going to race these late model
and this stuff.
And then Schaefer, like, literally like an hour later looking for a ride.
And one of raceful times Frank.
So I'm not sure what happened there.
Yeah.
Oh, Aaron Bollinger is to the factory.
This X car.
And Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
But yeah, I thought the whole.
Hank Davis getting out of the 12 and Lane and Crawley announced, like,
minutes afterwards in it.
Then him getting in the Dutcher car.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, it was great in that 12 X.
Yeah.
Well, I was going to be a smart ass when I shared the Dutcher news.
It would be like, you know, for the whole season.
And I was going to put like, till May.
Because that car can change hands quite a while.
Well, Schaefer last in the longest of anybody.
Yeah.
Yes, he has.
Late model change.
I don't know if you saw, but the Skyline team added a driver.
Yeah.
Today.
So we're adult.
Dalin.
Dalin.
Murdy.
Yeah.
It's a modified racer.
Yep.
Out of Iowa.
So one of those.
What was the youngest?
IMCA ever.
IMCA.car.
Supernationals champ.
So in 147 races in that division in 2021.
Yeah.
So.
This name has been purking up.
I think he's been running some late model stuff, too.
I know he has.
Has he?
Yes.
Okay.
Oh, what about that?
One of those sort of vehicles.
Definitely.
You're up there.
Yeah.
Your goes are on the right.
Yeah.
I think that's a good one.
But what do you think?
I don't know.
I think you're going to have that kind of details.
It's fun.
You know, it's fun.
I don't know who you think you're going to be.
I don't know.
But it's fun.
You know, we're in trouble.
You know, you're struggling with that.
Yeah.
You're struggling with that.
Yeah.
It's fun.
I think we have.
Yeah.
It's fun.
racing that as a late model, they've been the AK car. So it looks like
brooding and murdy will be in those as well. So that'll be a new
development for next year. Otherwise, that's all I got on my notes
Dwayne anything I'm missing? Sure I am. That's all I can think of
too. Yeah, got a pretty good model out of not, yeah, having
much, I'd say big midget races this weekend.
Turkey night. Yeah, they have the non-wing you sack sprints or
the West Coast sprints or whatever. They actually race on
Friday too, because midgets practice on Friday. Gotcha. And then
we got the dome coming up. Yes. No, I'll be at the dome right
on. I will be there. You will not. No, because you don't go
to races. Yep. So I'm a bit dome. I know the Roush team from
Michigan. Michigan and Michigan. Minnesota. I thought
they were Minnesota. Minnesota. Not Michigan. Minnesota,
pound of ice and Michigan. Minnesota. Still worried about
Hartford apparently. No, no, I already more Travis got to
hold me and I'm going to be supporting the Roush team racing
shirt. So you guys so you guys have to go to the fucking tablecloth
factory to get that made there Travis or what? You may. Hey,
have you looked in the mirror lately? I do. I think we were
the same size. I probably wear your size now. I just went down
the size. I've been losing weight. But you're not. No, I
can always take more. But yeah, so I'll be at the dome.
Gonna have a great time. Sounds like it's probably gonna be
the largest crowd to witness a dirt lake model race possibility.
I don't know. Like I said, those Bristol races had like 50,000
fans. So they said, and obviously it's Bristol's 50,000
doesn't look like much. But like the first thing I want you,
they said there's 50,000 people. The first thing I remember,
I went to the sprint car race. Yeah, I went to the first,
the first year of the late model race, which was before the
sprint cars, they said 50,000. No, I was a kid, but yeah, I
don't know. Okay, so maybe not. But they have potential because
the place can hold probably 70 or 80. I mean, that's a big football
stadium. So maybe not this year, but I wouldn't, you know, put
them past. Yeah, it's going to be 38 to 40,000 people. Yeah,
and I think, I think there it's kind of hard because you can't
just open the top level sections, Willie Nilly, like if more
people show up, because it's all union driven and you got to
have people work, they don't have the second, they don't have
that's what get wild, which I think because the middle deck has
the least seats. So they got the lower deck and the upper deck,
the middle decks never open. Yeah, that's what they're doing
this year so far, too. Gotcha. Which usually the middle deck is
like a club level type bullshit. And I'm sure there's a whole
caveat of it. Yeah, I guess it's going to keep going. I only
sheets that much, huh? I would have thought it was like 70 or 80
with a football stadium. I think so, I like 67,000. Gotcha. I
mean, St. Louis Rams played there. Yeah, they went super balls
have it. They still couldn't sell it out. I know. Yeah.
If they had a bigger stadium, nicer stadium, maybe I don't
know, I don't mind the stadium. I don't, yeah, I don't think
it's a bad stadium. I don't understand why they left to be on
this, but I mean, a billion dollar stadium in California was
obviously part of it, but well, yeah. Yeah. All righty. Well,
we're out of stuff to talk about. So we'll get out of here. Thank
you all for listening. Thank you for tuning in. We will not have
an episode next Monday this week from today, but the Monday
after the dome, we will. So we'll have a good wrap up show
there after the dome. Yeah. So we'll have some. Luckily, there's
not much drama at the dome. So you might be, you might be close
to seating layout. Total capacity, depending on the event could
be 82,000, but I think that's counting floors. Well, yeah,
like, okay, a football game in there probably has more so upper
ball has 29,400 seats. Lower ball has 28,352. So that's about
60 club level 64, which that's the middle and suites, there's
120 suites. And then there obviously, you'll have like,
pits and you said that probably don't even go watch the race.
Yeah, so that's 57, 7 counting the upper and the lower, but if
you count the club, that would be 61. Yeah, 63 plus your
suites. So yeah, it could be eventually close to 65,000. Yeah.
But that's kind of sell out. So we'll see this year, how much
the top bowl gets, but yeah, but still having 30 something, the
40,000 people there, it's been growing every year. Well, on
something they said, when I'm going to last and nobody could do
it, and I'll give Cody, I mean, he's stuck it out. Yeah, you
know, and you heard a couple years ago, well, it's not going to be
back as their cities up in the deal. I think they're stupid if
the city dicks with them too much because what else brings that
much? I mean, they have the super cross, which that's one night
monster trucks. Yeah, concerts here, but have, I mean, well,
they already announced the dates for next year or two. So we
know we're having a next year, at least. Good. So I mean,
brings a ton of business, I mean, because hopefully, I mean,
people get smart and realize, Hey, this events big, let's hire
more help for our because that's the only bad thing about it is
trying to eat their stuff. They're not prepared. Yeah, anywhere
near there. Yeah. So just be warned. Well, we'll have a wrap up
from the dome next episode. So until then, thank you all for
listening. Thank you for tuning in. Hope you all have a great
Thanksgiving. A great one. Enjoy it. Tell you tell your loved
ones. Thank you. Love them. We're thankful. Yes, we're thankful
for you listening each and every other week now. I've had a
lot of our old listeners getting rid of getting hold of me
last few weeks. So I haven't heard from it a long time. Hey,
I catch not pay. We heard this on good. Good. Well, all your old
listeners that are returning. Thank you for returning all your
new listeners. Thank you for tuning in. We appreciate it.
Until the Monday after the dome, we'll see you next time. As always,
stay dirty.
Bye bye.
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