Episode 386 - A Chaotic Rumble in Fort Wayne, Duane's Trip to PRI and More Silly Season Announcements

Hello, everybody. Hello, Malia, everybody. Hopefully the sound sounds a little better this week. Oh, you're not decking up the recording list. Nope, screwed it up last week. If you didn't listen, go back and listen. Thanks for a pretty good episode.

Yeah, I had my mixing board plugged into the wrong frickin' outlet, and yeah, the one time we don't check that setting is the time we recorded a whole episode just to find out after the episode.

I made a move. So my bad on that, but hopefully it's good enough. I mean, me and Dwayne were listening to it and said, hey, you know, you can hear us talk. So probably heard more mouse clicks and dog noises in the background than you would have liked. But yeah, apologies.

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Yeah, so obviously the rumble happened this past weekend to coin happen this past weekend, but the weekend before, which was maybe a fuzz light on announcements as it has been in the past PR I show just because everything's kind of been released already.

But yeah, Dwayne made the trip, which I did. I forgot you were going, I guess, I did not go this year, but would you learn what you see and how to go talk to quite a few people.

No, you find that hard to believe. Yeah, there's a surprise, but got got through it pretty good had for part of the day.

Had Laila with me. This is daughter because she's in the motor sports program. So she's like, she's trying to look for an internship because she's in the engineering Indiana Purdue motor sports engineering.

So she's talked to help people maybe, maybe an opportunity with a place that sponsors a midget cool.

They take 20 interns and this kind of impressed that she was in the motor sports field. So I don't know, but yeah, worth some things. The biggest thing was the baller built seat, you know, with the mounts different.

I mean, you know, how it rides a little bit, which I didn't realize none of the organizations right now is you can't run it in there. None of them's approved it yet.

Outlaws high limits, you sack. Now I've been told that's going to change before the year starts that there's a few other things that I do to it.

So had a big real nice topic, buddy, cofoid for 25, 30 minutes.

Kale, Henry, Kelsey, Ivy, all of them was right there. David gravel and it's all kind of crowd around there. KTJ was there too, but I didn't really talk to him, but I talked to buddy a lot about it and Greg Wilson and Casey Jenner's act.

We all had talks about it and buddy hates it and Greg Wilson hates it because he's judged that likes it and gravel likes it because you know, he's helping promote it.

And the others are kind of 50, 50 because so there's no testing. So like the bottom seat belts mount to the seat.

So like buddy says he goes, you know, it's never been crash tested. How do you know what those seat belts are going to do?

Is a bolt going to break? Are they going to pull through? Or are they? Yeah, moves a little bit and Greg Wilson had the same thing. He goes, you know, he says.

Because right now your belts connect to the chassis, right?

Yep. I was like, what happens? You know? So yeah, so the seat, you know, something happens or breaks or the mount breaks because it's not.

It's like two big rubber mounts because it moves a little bit on top, some mounted. Then the back, the bottom's kind of like on a little deal because it's supposed to move a couple inches.

And but like judder's act and travel them like us great, but they're in pitman, which I didn't realize what all was happening. I got invited to so alter shield, spike chassis, CSI shocks.

And some of those guys had a safety meeting, which I actually got invited to on Thursday night. But I didn't go down Thursday night. And you know, they want to get it or like this deal moves a little bit.

Well, because and actually Caleb Henry was showing me a lot because he was in the Butler built deal. He's not really working for him. He's like, they just helped me a lot. So show.

So the problem as we have stated, there's a lot of knocking back injuries now. Well, because you're so tight and Caleb was showing me like some of them, how tight you're in there and all the other drivers agreed you're in there so tight.

That now your body don't move when you crash, like you're in there too tight. Yes. So as you've got a Hans device and all that, you're in there too tight. So now the things that are moving is your brain, your insides.

And when you go straight down on an impact, it's your spine. And like at that safety meeting, they said even so your spine's not supposed to be straight up enough.

And pitman them was talking about it. So they're suggesting lean your seat back a couple inches and actually some of the chassis's Greg Wilson's actually having maximum.

Put the bars, change the two back bars and kind of wrap around these seats so it can lean back a little bit because they said your spine naturally curves. So instead of straight down impact of just compacting your spine, at least it'll give a little bit and maybe help.

But you know, and they're talking about well NASCAR NASCAR will NASCAR's move, but they're in like a couple of different shells and that whole camp.

And like I guess pitman says, you know, we want to get there with this stuff, but it's going to take five or six years to get where we're probably really need to be.

But you know, people's trying to do this seat that moves a little bit with these is overpass, but none of the major like you sack NASCAR.

You sack high limits were a lot of laws that you can't run them yet, but they're trying.

So it would be interesting to see because I talked a lot of, you know, veterans, Greg Wilson, some of those guys buddy, you know, and there's a wide range of guys that like it, guys that don't and why.

But I can see buddies playing like so they want to go to Volusia, possibly on the fastest tracks with no testing.

Is do you want to be the first one to strap in that thing and try, you know,

you don't know if the braces are holding up, you know, because it's only really, you know, the belts are mounted to the chassis in one spot, not all over like you.

You know, it's like, yeah, it's flexing. I mean, the point's great. I mean, but like he says, it might be the best thing there is, but he says without testing, you know, we need to.

Yeah, but supposedly there's going to be some testing and I guess there's a couple of things they know they need to do just a tad different for the series to prove it.

Yes, but yeah, it's funny. I got what brought up right away because I got to hang out with very loyal dirt nerds listener that I haven't seen for a while Bill Miller, old photographer, you know,

yeah, purple head bill. Yeah, Montpillier and that and it's funny because I literally last week, I changed my phone to my picture of the modified I raced and it's his picture.

And then I had to have I sat with him a lot on a Friday night, then down in front of us, few rows, little shock.

And so we went down, this is at the rumble, we're talking. Yes, at the rumble, went down, talked to them and met Will's son or grandson. He always talks about Super B races and out in Texas.

Yes, but in the other Matt Westfall, but anyways, Bill, Bill was asking me about the, I said, well, we're going to talk about the seed deal as well. Those both talk to me about.

So we're going to talk a little bit about it because I said, I just in the right place, the right time because buddy was there with Mike Linder and KTJ and someone was there and Caleb, you know, there's all kinds of talking about it. Well, then I seen Casey judder, Zach and Greg Wilson earlier.

And they was talking about it before. I mean, I was like the big talk of all the sprint car drivers like. And it was so and there wasn't any between either. They hated it or they loved it. There was no.

Yeah, I like it with this or no, I don't like it, but you know, there is, I mean, I found very strong opinions. One way or another. There is no. It's very black and white. Yes. So it would be interesting to see. And like I said, I didn't realize that that's not approved yet, but that seed is not. Yeah. When did it come out?

Um, I know they've been working on it. I thought gravel is our running one because he's been promoting it because they got, but I think his deal might be a little different because they're trying to get it.

The idea is it for it to move to three inches and absorb the impact. So that's like creating blocks that kind of absorbing pad blocks at the top of the seat, the seatbelts to the chassis. And you know, because you're going to have belt stretch and stuff in it.

So then the other is just bolted to the bottom of the seat. So something, I don't know, we've seen seats bend before. I mean, so what happens? Yeah.

What happens? Yeah, that's a risky game. We'll say it's just with the forces that come with it. Well, everybody that did. Well, it's not a fan of it. I shouldn't say hated it, but just not a fan of it yet. And they all said, it could be great.

But it just needs a little more. So there are hesitations more on the vetting side. Yeah. Once they know it. Well, I don't care. Like, buddy, I had a good point. You know, you go to Volucia, your first race and they haven't tested them. And you're going 150 miles per hour at Volucia. And we've seen. Yeah, we're going to ask the crashes. We've seen a Volucia. And you want to go out there and be the crash test. I mean, basically. Yeah.

No, I don't disagree with that. No, I don't know. I'd be the same way. Like testing data, chasing people's lives, and looking at the chase Johnson video, I thought it was really cool. He came out with that. And they've kind of looked at that too. And that's what everybody was talking about to you. They're talking a lot about that. And they're like, you know, that's, you know, but it's cool that they, you know, Chase made that. I know it was hard for him and his family. But like they said, it's we need to talk about this.

Like, but, you know, it's their lives. Yeah. On the line. Yeah. So I get buddies point 100%. Yeah. You know, and and Greg's, you know, Greg's again, you know, I'm older.

It's harder to recover. You know, case like, I think it's great, which, you know, and like they said, it may be. But there's not a lot of testing. I didn't.

Like I said, I guess the system that they had a PRI is not legal right now anyways for the big series. So be interesting to see what happens.

But that was a huge talk there. Other than that, PRI talked to some old people, talked to some new people, see a lot of different drivers.

I think I got a new sponsor out of the deal. Cool. So we'll see. Yeah, that's pretty cool. See, uh, dude, it was busy. It was busy.

Oh, he is. Yeah. See, uh, you know, quite a bit. Yeah. I had a friend. Did you just go Saturday then? I just went Friday. Oh, he just went Friday. Yeah. Okay. Friday is proud enough. I can't imagine Saturday. Well, Friday is usually the busiest day they say. Believe it or not.

It was busy Thursday is busy with professionals, but Fridays, the busiest and Saturday. It's kind of like people are leaving fans show up on Saturday. Yeah.

It was a big time busy. Yeah. Friday, but I got to see, see people. I said, meet a few new. Did you see Austin Kirkpatrick's late model. I did not know. Did you see the scene Bobby pierces?

Did you see the pictures of Austin Kirkpatrick at the billstein booth? The shock is horizontal real on the top of the chassis and has a cam over on the go that actually goes down.

So the shock absorbs horizontally, but obviously the forces applied vertically, but it's on the pivot arm, uh, not legal though on in any series right now. I shouldn't say that.

I seen his late model there, but we just turned in the corner. Like, ah, I don't really need to see that, you know, yeah, not a late model. What did you do? And I didn't, I didn't realize that he had some special. Yeah, but it's not legal. Like the rules, I think dirt car, word about laws, Lucas loyal state has to be your shocks have to be near vertical. So that one wouldn't work.

I don't know where that'll come into play, but I haven't looked much into it either. I just saw pictures and it raised a lot of.

Well, we was turning and burning to I got through. Yeah, if you're there for a day, it's, it's, there's a lot to cover. Yeah, we was turning burning when I went down, went down every aisle in the big part and they had the hallways.

You allow us to actually walked over to the trailer part. Oh, stadium. Yeah, that's a hall. Yeah, huh. And so yeah, we was turning burning and because we want to do some stuff, uh, introduce a little, a few people as well. So, uh, well, and I feel bad. I didn't know you were going.

Garrett Schultz actually reached out to me on Instagram and it was too late. I don't, it was in my kid messages or whatever. So I didn't see it until too late. Also didn't know you were going.

But he works for five star bodies announced the new sprint car body. They were coming through and he said, yeah, if you guys swing by your booth, check it out. I didn't see that.

But yeah, so I saw it. I saw it. Tyler Courtney's sprint car. I believe was in their booth with the new body on. I was in that booth. Sorry, Garrett didn't see your message and I didn't know Dwayne was going. That's how much we communicate. So I seen it.

You saw it. That's good. I did see it. But it's one thing I did see. Yeah. Well, what do you think about? I mean, plastic vacuum form body. Yeah, why not? I don't understand what the big difference would be.

No, maybe I mean bodies get beat up a lot with the rocks. So, yeah, maybe it'll say those are just thermoplastic. I think he's take a heat gun to pop out. Yeah, it'll be interesting. To me, I just seen how the sprint car bodies are after a while.

If, you know, because there's a lot of dents, obviously in the metal, then you get the carbon fiber ones. But plastic, I'm not saying it can be, I mean, obviously they've probably done their homework.

To me, it'll be interesting. Like if it, if it dents and like, you know, like you put a dent in plastic. I obviously, heat gun is going to get it out, but more of the cracking. Yeah, like.

If you start seeing the white threads coming down, that'll be a little different. I'll be white threads. You'll see. Yeah, that'll be interesting to me. Yeah, and that's not an issue. Then. Yeah, they could be another option for the market. I mean, why not try it? Well, I'm sure.

And I was expensive as carbon fiber. Well, yeah, for sure. And carbon fiber starts cracking. Yeah, you can buy patch kids. But yeah, you know, go car bodies. People really don't do any of this by the plastic ones.

They might be on something pretty good. If I said it'll be interesting to how tough it'll be like on. Yeah, you start getting the white clubbing to be interesting to see.

Some of it will last compared to others. And sort of it, you won't even be able to tell that because if you're wrapped. Right, decals, you know, right.

This once has the crap beat out of it. And the cost, obviously, like, can you buy two of those for the price of one of the others? Right. You know, kind of disposable at that point, but.

Yeah, it would be interesting. Yeah. What else did you see? Oh, buy a new hauler, did you? No, no, did not, did not.

Seen's obscene. Seen machines. Oh, yeah. She knew I was always cool. Yeah, because that was part of Laila's Dio show. And she's carrying this one around that one. Yeah.

Talk to people at Webco a lot that sponsors fruit. She's midget.

Really cool people. Yeah, really, really cool people. I see one of their engineers that they have. And he's spare time build a midget chassis that they had there just for.

Like, uh, fruit, she gives us good feedback when he doesn't mention racist because, you know, he usually runs pretty good, but usually caches a lot of shit too.

So this is testing of how good some stuff can be. So what's going to hold up, right? Yeah. So it was good. But, uh, yeah, I've seen Barry Marlow, uh, you know, we had the GSS schedule and, uh, I sneak peak of the great like traditional sprint schedule. That's not totally out yet.

He's got a few more dates, but, uh, going to be some of how dates there. Cool.

Um, but yeah, uh, just, uh, you know, other than pretty standard stuff. I mean, you know, all the boost with all the.

I mean, nothing really jumped out and was like, Oh, this is spectacular. Yeah. I mean, it's very different than it used to be to.

Yeah. With announcements and things. It used to be kind of the hub for a lot of that.

Well, and I like going because I've been for a few years. Like, I seen, uh, um, you know, some of my sponsors to help the series.

Mm-hmm. You know, like Dave Ealy from a DMI. Yeah.

You know, I like going up, shaking their hands. And I hear my every time I do it. I like he goes, that's awesome. He goes, keep doing that goes.

Not hardly anybody ever comes up and like, thanks us in person.

Mm-hmm. Well, I see a lot of our drivers. I've seen TJ Michael. I've seen Cap Henry. I've seen Bradley Bateson. I've seen, um, uh, Sissing St. Clair.

The drivers are 305s. I've seen, uh, Casey Juttersack, Greg Wilson. I said buddy, gravel, um, Tok Cody Swanson. Oh, yes.

Was he working in the Ustack booth? No, he was, uh, at another booth. But I talked to him. He's like, you know, he said.

You know, he says, I think I just set that point. I said, dude, yeah, I don't think you're at that point in your career, but yeah, you got to do what you got to do.

Uh, he goes, hopefully I can help. He goes, hopefully I got some knowledge of the series and condescent. I would think so, but yeah.

It's not like I could do good. But yes. Um, seeing John Forrest, Jack Beckman, some of those guys too.

But yeah, just, uh, I mean, yeah, I mean,

nothing real stand out. Yeah. I mean, it's changed a lot since COVID because some, yeah, I mean, it's still a lot there. Still business.

I mean, there's all new, new oils and new grises and stuff. Like always, it's supposed to be the next best thing in some companies.

Some of those, but after a COVID, some companies don't go back. No, they realized, oh, it's expensive to go as a vendor.

A thousand ninety nine displays. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, like you said, there's still a lot there. Um, but I know like Kaiser manufacturing integrity shocks like they don't go anymore.

And they always just have one of the more popular boost for dirt racing. Um, just not worth the expense of going.

Sure. A was a big. Oh, yeah. Cause you know, they announced buying more tracks. Yeah. Maple Grove. We'll see.

Then, uh, US 131 got a national NHRA event. Why is there? Mm hmm. But supposedly they're looking at some dirt tracks too. Yeah, I heard that.

Which I don't know how warm fuzzy I am about that. Cause if you saw HRA's stuff from last year. Yeah. Sounds like there was a little interesting.

We'll say, uh, deals that happened. And maybe some tracks didn't quite know they were bought by HRA after IHRA published. They bought them.

Yeah. And now they're starting to stock pavement stock car series. It's paying. Good money. So yeah, it'll be interesting. Uh, supposedly the guy that hasn't know what I've been told.

Is there like words of money coming? There's gonna be another one of these. You know, Jesus. We got enough people not paying people right now.

Another XR deal. Yeah. Well, then the demolition Derby at Bristol. Do you see that?

And then we've seen the whole debacle of getting paid four or five months later, three months later, atomic and, uh, just misunderstanding.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's not her standing on the top bounce. Checks wires. And it still got what didn't get there till three days after Facebook said the video said.

I know that for a fact because I see it. Yeah. But anyways, uh, at least they got paid. Yeah.

Yeah. HRA's guy. Where's his money coming from? Uh, supposedly the guy's his company builds all the big Amazon warehouses. Okay.

But he's spending money like they got it. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. I mean, that's what norwalk over here. Our way our closest big time drag racing track was always IHRA for years. Yeah.

I only put the money in my land. Yeah. And then, um, they became NHRA over at norwalk and have been ever since. So.

But yeah, I think it'd be interesting to get into racing. I don't know exactly what fast said or. Yeah.

If it wouldn't be track over and have some type of series of be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, another PR. I should actually call him. There you go.

Just to see if he wants to sponsor. IHRF, uh, AFCS series. Right. It's good. It can just be IHRA. Yeah. Take it over. Go for it.

Um, but yeah. Yeah. There was a Usec schedules that came out, which I'll get into those a little bit. But otherwise as past weekend was the rumble for what?

Yes. Which I was going to attend on Saturday, uh, ended up waking up, not feeling great. So ended up not going on Saturday. But, uh, Dwayne, they're there for both nights.

I was 374 entries on Friday and 341 on Saturday. Cause, uh, I was going to say Friday was a shit show, even Larry in the invocation was.

It was rough night. I just got to rebound from it. And yeah, it was Friday is the worst I've ever seen worse. I've been to, I haven't been all 27.

Cause I think I missed a couple of years. I've been, uh, at least probably 24 of the 27 least one of the nights as worst when I've seen my far on Friday night. It was just, you know, they tried to few new things.

And it just, then there's oil and down. A lot of crashes, lots of spin outs. And then Larry is losing his temper. And, uh, yeah, I got over with about 1 o'clock on Friday night. And then Saturday,

a little better, um, it still didn't get over to like 1130, quarter 12. But they had it. I mean, and I like where it's got a lot of traction in that. But to me, it was so much traction and only one groove.

And granted, it's indoor racing on a small track. Uh, but the major racing was just, I mean, there was, it was so fast, it just was no competition. I mean, there was really no battle.

Really at all for lead. I mean, you could get in the guy a little bit, but they's putting people in the back if you got into him too much.

Yeah, just, uh, what about two grooves? Like we've seen Tony Stort pass on the outside. I'm not too sure Saturday night somebody could enough, but nobody tried it. Yeah.

I think if the right set up, I honestly think they could have, but, uh, yeah, it was just a lot of crashes.

So, cards, bicycling and crashing, many, or quarter midgets, bicycling, flipping out on how I corner midges they flip and it had to be a lot.

Yeah, you said there's a couple of kids going out on backwards. One went on a backboard and actually went to the hospital and needed stitches, uh, the seat, his seat belt cut his neck.

Which, which if you see those car midges, that's always been a concern of mine. How those kids lean out of those things.

Uh, yeah, and that's a big track for them too. Yeah. So Sean Blenny hit the wall so hard. I'm Friday at Benny's chassis. Big time while he's go card.

Yeah, and he was just racing a predator, which is a box stock motor. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was some carnage, but, uh, you know, you'll have that Friday night Russ Gamester and one of those midgets.

Uh, I think it's a 1970, 70, 70, 74, uh, they did dual features and one of our hall guys, Ricky Peterson took his first indoor midget win and then, uh, the 600s, the non-wing went to Larry Joe Schroof, uh, long time since he's won in there and, uh,

Tyler Shulick, the wing 600 and the John Ivy 94. Yeah. And, uh, Saturday, uh, 100 Lapper went back to 100 Lapper and they had three breaks for, for fumes scheduled.

Uh, the first one, the drivers come out and throw Frisbee's and all that. And it's like, you know, they did 100 Lappers years ago.

And they quit them for a reason because Fire Marshoist, you know, made them take breaks for that thing. Granted, I know they had scheduled breaks and they did a few things in between.

But it's like, if you know, you can't run 100 Lapper and you're running for time. Yeah. It can be a 50 Lapp race. Oh, you know, 40 was fine.

They did two 30 Lapp ones or whatever. It was always 75, which is fine. But it's like, you can go 50 and be fine. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The notion. I think they had the last few years, 40 or 50, you know. And, but anyways, uh, and cap Henry led every Lapp on Saturday to take another win this year. And then the 600's, uh, Tyler Shulick says, Hey, why not? He took the non-wing win.

And then, uh, the wing win. And not only was Tyler Shulick and the Ivy 94, the winner, Kelsey, Ivy means got second. And John Ivy got third. So it was an Ivy. Yeah. What wasn't John in his 94?

Because he don't have power steering. Ah. And his other one does. Gotcha. And it's getting so fast and running so many, you know, he runs a couple of years running the midway.

He's running a midget on Friday, but not on Saturday because his car was not there on Saturday when they got there because, uh, long time, uh, midget supporter, uh, Randy Burles, uh, loaded stuff up after Friday night in my home. Uh, Daniel Flores, uh,

was it the swan to the Brian Blaney tire changer? Uh, 15? Yes. Yeah. The white car. Yep. He loaded up a handful loaded up. Uh, yeah. Well, Burles got what? Five? Yeah. He loaded all five of them on.

Yep. And there's all they crash, but it wasn't big. Like Ivy's was just, uh, uh, torsion bar, um, and uh, Kelsey's was something on the front. I mean, it wasn't anything that they couldn't have fixed. Yeah, there's quite a few of them loaded.

Well, there's 30 midgets on Friday and 19 on Saturday.

Uh, while it dropped, said there's 374 injuries on Friday and 341 Saturday. So it dropped some bit. Uh, yeah. It was, uh, it was rough big time on Friday.

Saturday was okay. I mean, we always visit with people. I mean, I seen your listener Matt swandler hung out with him for a while. He loved paying, uh, you know, $13 and something for two sodas. Yeah. Yeah.

They get you there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's, which the race don't control that. I mean, that's all calcium. Uh, but, uh, yeah, it was, it was a rough rumble, but, uh, you'll have that sometimes indoor racing.

Carts was good. Carts put on hell of show. Um, because after they got threatened to get not brought back with a lot of cards. Yeah, they had a lot of cards.

Uh, um, so yeah, it was a lot of cards. Yeah, there's some good cart racing. Uh, the 600 was good. I mean, uh, the wing ones was probably the best races with the carts at the midgets were just.

It was off this year. It was pretty foul of ring around the rosy, which, you know, it's kind of bumping around racing there anyways. Yeah, the track was just so, so gripped up that.

What's up for on Friday when I got well down. And if you touch throughout, you spun out. I mean, there's some guys that have spun out there twice and 20 years of spun out five or six times in one main, because I mean, you just could not.

They didn't do anything about it. And that's one reason some people got pissed off and left because their cars got crashed because the track was obviously not raceable.

I mean, you could couldn't even crack throttle and you just spun or went straight into the wall. Yeah, or somebody tried to turn it and turned into getting crashed.

And guys tried to hit the brakes. And yeah, let's say, you know, you had a four car crash. And, uh, so yeah, they finally took care of that.

But they got all down about three times during the main and a couple of times just let go for quite a while.

I think the one three or four cars finished. Yeah. So, uh, a couple dirt nerds go carts there in the kid cart class.

So, um, former I had to miss those kiddos race. But, uh, way to go. Yeah, they still, uh, got their show in.

When I was asked, do you really not go to many races? Yes, I said he does not go to many races at all.

Yeah, starting a sock drawer, you know, all the good stuff. Yeah, that's right. Don't you forget it. Yeah, but Saturday breaks without me.

Uh, Saturday breaks late and finished third and, uh, his sister Clara sixth in the kid cards. So always fun with the kid cards.

Just, you know, last year, at least when I was there helping more everyone was just having fun, good group of parents, all that.

So I know Claire on Friday flipped, uh, flung out of the go cart and everything. That's really her first tumble, but her dad said she took it like champ.

So, that's always good to hear too, but this side of the dirt nerd sponsored that because we've an Elliott side, but the kid Myers one three days.

I mean, Kate Myers won both nights. And that's, uh, Cap Henry's crew chief, Zach. It's his boy racing the kid cards. He's racing with us last year too.

So, yeah, in a quarter of a minute. It's a lot of those running. Um, yeah, like Dwayne said, those can be sketchy kids can be pretty brave in those at times. We'll say.

Yeah, there's a lot of flips in that. Yeah. But another rumble down, would you think the date kind of helped or heard it?

I think it helped car counts. Um, crowd wise Friday night was not that good, but it hasn't been the last handful of years. Saturday night was good.

As same dates next year, it's going to be the whatever it is, 18th and 19th and 17th and 20th or whatever. Yeah.

The shift in the calendar, keeping it a week before Christmas. Yeah, I think it worked out great, you know, entry wise.

And Friday night crowd was pretty good. So Friday, I mean, Saturday night Friday night was not good. Yeah.

I'll betcha for last a main there wasn't there wasn't a hundred people to stand for last couple of means, but yeah, I saw one of the micro a mains, which is usually later, you know, and I saw the crowd.

And I was like, where the hell is everybody? Well, it must have been from Friday night. Well, they ran midget a main and the last micro, the winged on micro a main last Friday. Yeah. Yeah.

But plus it was one o'clock. So yeah, it doesn't help either. No, I can't believe the Coliseum.

They're usually pretty strict on shutting the down in a certain time. Yeah.

Two, so one, it made it shitty for the teams that broke stuff because there's so many broke stuff.

Because you couldn't work on it afterwards because the midget feature, you know, didn't go to almost midnight.

And, you know, so it didn't go worth the like 12 30 or so by one, one third, you gotta be out there. Yeah, they're opening it up at seven or eight in the next morning, but you're already out on the track.

You know, and so.

Yeah, I know Saturday morning is not as bad as Friday. Friday morning is when they do the practice first and then heat races. So Saturday is just heat races.

And the midget guys don't go first, but it's still a lot to turn around that fast, for sure.

Yeah, you get a four hour sleep and try to rebuild a car to do some stuff to this. Yeah.

But yeah, you know, it was an interesting rumble that some interesting calls, like always.

Some guys get sent to the back. Some not. Yeah, couple had two or three high limit people helping this time. Well, my cast has helped him last three or four years. Oh, has he?

Yeah, he's helped run it or he, I guess he's, you know, Larry's guy. I don't know.

Husse runs a major part of me. I don't know. And he had a couple other high limit people helping him out. So.

Kind of looked like a few other races.

What are you going to say?

Explain to me.

Yeah, it looked like fewer races during the season. Well, like he's a judder's act. I.

I wholeheartedly don't blame him. I mean, he came back by his driver's company. He was leading the one feature.

The yellow is out for a good half lap. One of the oiled down, you know, racing on ice skate deals. And he spun because it's just.

He spun in the middle of the backstretch because it was so slick.

Lean. He like hit the break or something because whatever. And it just spun him around. They put him to the tail because they said, well, use the cause of caution.

It was out for a half lap before.

Yeah.

Any races way back to third, but still.

Well, defaulted back to third because everybody's fallen out.

So one must race on that because it was, well, and I talked to cap.

Because you know, yeah, somebody won't want a lot of the rumble. Like, how is that goes to you?

I guess it was ridiculous. He goes, there's a stupid. Like, you know, you can't, you can't hit the throttle. You can't.

Try to even remotely race.

And what you're just trying to survive and like said, people are crashing into people into the wall because it was just.

Literally ice skating basically.

Yeah, no kidding.

Yeah, well, we'll see what next year's version brings. But that was another one in the books, the coin Illinois had some midget racing going on indoors.

46 minutes, I believe.

Not too bad of a car count.

No.

Who won?

T-med.

That's what I thought.

But did you see kale drakes move?

No, I heard he flipped though.

He flipped before they've went green.

Yeah.

Like, just he went to gun it into the corner and whoop, whoop, up and over. He went.

Yeah, because I see the flat left of your tire.

I didn't realize that was him. I did see that video.

Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, because I know he's not driving with Coots now.

Yeah.

That was chilly boys, not.

No.

So that was a car Steven Snyder was driving.

Yeah, I didn't see much from that. Did you?

No, I did nice.

I know team as one and they had 46 cars. I know like Christopher Bell. Some of them were there getting tuned up for the children.

Kyle Busch's boy was racing.

And so it's Kyle Busch.

And Kyle was too.

Yeah.

I saw him in his race suit.

And 600 or whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah, his boy beating boy got six and Kyle got 13.

Yeah, and they're getting ready for a big shootout.

Yeah, we can come out.

1939 cars and record entry.

19 hundred dude already goes like 15, 16, 17 hours on some of those days at 800 and like 20 entries.

Now you got 100 and some more.

Yeah.

Poor camera guys. That's the crew because like I've talked to Dean and Jeff Commerce and some of those that are on there.

I mean, because you know, they get there.

Got to set up having production meeting all that shit.

And some of those nights they're taping for 16, 17 hours.

And then you're there for an hour or two before or after.

So, I mean, they might even get out of there.

I mean, seriously.

They got to tape 18 or 19 hours and you got to have a couple.

I mean, they literally have enough time to go back to the motel.

Take shower and come back.

Yeah.

And then everyone's bitching about their camera angles are terrible.

Yeah.

They're sleeping by the time.

By Saturday rolls around.

They're out there.

Juve the dove sleeping.

Yeah, that's a wild one.

There's just.

I mean, the TV announcers, you know, trying to find as much info on some of these guys as you can.

And you don't know where they're raised, where they're from, what they've done.

Like, that's wild.

But.

Yeah, like you got your 39 entries.

Yeah.

And somebody old bitch that it only pays $1,500 bucks.

You know, somebody that's not there.

Some fan swashing on TV.

Oh, man, it's rip off the only pay.

Well, I would definitely that's not the issue.

Yeah.

Well, these pay $500.

Right.

And then it's $1,000.

I think it's $1,500.

Yeah.

Jolly boy is $20.

You're going to get next year.

Yeah.

Good.

I want it to be worth everyone's time.

You know, make sure.

Make sure it's worth everyone's time.

Yeah.

Um.

Other action or mostly just kind of headlines now.

But we kind of got into it a little bit.

But the atomic debacle.

Yeah.

I have it on here.

If you didn't see Bryce Lucius's team, the STP Motorsports ride posted,

Hey,

more or less, we won that last race.

It was $15,000 a win.

Spring card race.

The night the stars come on, I believe.

And, uh, you know, we never got paid.

And that was, was that October, I believe?

Yeah.

September, October.

That race was.

And, uh,

then, uh,

some back and forth on the old Facebook.

And then a time I said, yeah, there was a miscommunication.

Or we sent some and didn't go through wires got crossed on the wire transfer.

I don't know what it was.

Uh,

And so now they're paid and, you know,

everything always good.

But it sounds like.

Yes.

Well, they didn't get paid.

It maybe wasn't.

Yeah.

There's a couple of bombs checks.

And then there's supposed to be some wire transfers in November that never went through.

And then even.

After there's Facebook, both.

Book posts live saying, hey, they'll confirm that they got their money.

They got it before they even post it and didn't realize it.

Well.

That's a little sketchy too, because, uh,

they never received their money till 907 on that Tuesday after that Facebook post.

I mean,

how do I know?

Because, uh,

I heard part of the transfer.

It was getting informed in.

And they're not doing an awesome car.

I said, hey, I didn't get paid.

Uh, then I know there's some people that, uh,

sounds like, uh,

didn't go public that had some issues too.

Uh, then you see, there are some other people on there.

Oh, I didn't get paid for this or that or blah, blah, blah.

So how many of those, you don't know,

because they're always paying away in Trumpers.

Yeah, too.

Or something, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I, I don't know.

I don't know.

Is one, is one post.

I mean, Charlie and Dave and them, you know,

I, I know they listen to the show a lot.

They've usually messes me like, what'd you mean by that?

What do you mean?

But, you know, the one post is like, what did you mean by it?

Cause he's like, I don't know.

We don't know how long we're gonna put up with this.

Mm hmm.

You know, stuff like, you know,

and, uh,

I don't know what it is,

but place always has drama.

No matter who's around it, who has it?

It's always something weird about it.

It's, it's like it's cursed almost.

I mean, there's always some type of drama, always something.

And I ain't saying, I mean, it doesn't matter which owner.

Yeah.

I mean, it really doesn't.

There's always some type of something down there that's starting.

I know it's starting to get a lot of people,

and fair, unfair them, whatever.

Sometimes, you know, when you don't pay people,

I mean, you pay them three months late,

and I guess people talk as, I mean,

I've, as a huge talk the last week or so,

and a lot of guys that I've talked to,

uh, I was like, uh,

it's gonna really make us think I'm not going down there

even for, you know, speed week or something.

Yeah.

But my guess is speed week may be a little different.

Mm hmm.

Um, just because,

yeah.

The all-stars involvement,

I know sometimes they guarantee,

you know, and I ain't saying,

I ain't saying the tracks,

not going to pay anybody,

at all, by any means,

but it definitely does not help.

And we've talked about it.

It's like, that's a hell of a purse.

And that's bigger or a lot of purse,

because you paid big money

for the late models and sprint cars.

Mm hmm.

You know, so, uh,

I give them kudos,

because they're always trying something new,

always paying drivers excellent.

But, uh,

it's got to pay them,

when you see you're going to pay them.

Well, in a timely manner.

And what would happen if they didn't,

uh,

if they didn't, uh, say something,

and uh,

yeah, make a public on social media.

Mm hmm.

That's why I think,

because, well, there's a miscommunication,

well,

it was, it wasn't,

but there's some,

three or four things that didn't go,

right,

then awesome carol scene deal.

Uh, I guess those are going to send them a check

and it just never did.

And it sounds like he was like,

you know, he went to Texas and all that,

and just kind of like,

yeah, he checks the mail

and kind of forgot the check was in the mail.

And when he seen that,

it's like,

oh, that's right.

We never got paid either.

So, yeah.

So, I don't know,

you know, um,

hey,

uh,

Charlie Vest made good on it.

He wasn't XR.

He wasn't this demo of Derby deal

and Bristol has shortened people $100,000 now.

Right, that, um,

I don't, I don't know if anybody he's ever

stiffed totally out of money.

I mean, I think he's always paid

if it's a little late.

I mean, better late than never, right?

Yeah.

Um, I hope

nothing happens to a track.

I mean, I like going there.

And I like that they pay good money,

but, uh,

is he going to be sustainable?

And hopefully this,

but hopefully they do enough damage control,

because I've seen about 50-50 on the post.

I mean, there's a lot of people standing up

for the place,

and there's 50% like,

yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Makes us think.

But, I don't care.

You can say you're not going

if you're a fan or a team or not,

but you're going to go there.

Yeah.

How many times have you said,

Elliot?

I'm not going,

we're going back to that place.

I've said it about places.

Yeah.

So go.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, still a race.

I don't think it,

I don't think I've heard him,

because he did pay.

I mean, that's the key.

He did pay.

Yeah.

I mean, so,

it was a little late,

but he didn't stiff anybody.

I mean, so, you know,

and, you know,

you do a big race like that.

Maybe I have no idea.

I didn't get to it.

I don't know how the intent

was.

I don't know how,

you know,

if he took a big hit,

or just,

some money got transferred wrong,

you know,

I don't know that part.

I just know that,

a couple of people had issues

with checks,

and then,

took a while for wire transfers,

and,

I don't know.

Yeah.

I mean, today,

team got their money.

Exactly.

That's a good thing.

Yep. I guess.

We don't want anything bad for the tracks.

I mean,

yeah.

We want them to keep racing.

Like I said,

they have some big shows down there.

Yeah.

It's almost like there's a curse

or a cloud over that place,

because there's always,

always something.

Yeah.

It's, I mean,

my entire life of knowing the place,

even from Jim Nier

and the KC Raceway day still.

Yeah.

So now,

it's like,

yeah,

something's always kind of going on.

Yeah.

And of course,

the only bad thing about this

is,

then,

the rumors come out,

then the faults,

whether true faults,

you know,

some bandwagon jumpers,

some,

some true,

some faults,

what's true,

what's not?

Because I've heard,

I've heard a handful of other things

I'm not even going to get into

that,

oh, they did this,

they did that.

But I have no,

no evidence,

no proof,

no right,

wrong, indifferent.

And I don't want to,

I've never done that on rumor base.

Yeah.

Or,

you know,

now, if I hear a rumor of a ride

or something,

I'm not,

this,

and even some of those people

is on there.

Well, I did work for them

in 1672,

and they never,

they didn't,

they shrunk me 80 bucks.

You know,

I've seen a couple of people.

Yeah.

Like,

did they,

did they give you free tickets?

You know,

because there's,

how much of that shit is,

okay,

I'll give you,

you know,

get 10 people coming,

I'll give you 10 tickets and,

you know,

whatever.

Yeah.

You know,

like I said,

just some of the stuff

that I do know,

but like I said,

the key is,

they got paid,

they didn't shorten anybody

any money.

Um,

move on,

I mean,

sometimes that happens

in any business.

Especially,

I mean, they tried something big

and maybe it didn't go

like they thought.

I,

like I said,

I don't know,

I don't know how big crowd was.

Yeah.

I, you know,

sometimes,

you got to take your own money

or money out of another business

of yours

and some,

you know,

maybe a little delay,

but yeah,

well,

it's unfortunate

that it happened,

but he is,

everybody got paid.

So,

yeah, I mean,

still on Lucas Oil,

what about

schedule for next year for

late models?

Oh yeah,

I see people are already,

like,

oh my god,

should we go,

it'll fall out and some of it's true and some of it's not. So all that other, you know,

like said, I've heard a lot of other stuff and I'm sure some of it's garbage and they

even were talking about. Yeah, I'm moving on. The kind of worst kept secret and all of their

late model racing announced that the PRI show flow sports has officially taking over the ownership

of the Lucas oil model dirt series with Lucas oil still being the title sponsor. More or less,

not much is going to change that we will see. No, which we kind of heard this was coming while

they said sweet larson, but we know sweet larson's kind of backed by flow in the ways.

They're one of the part of flow, which is part of high limits. And we know flow became an exclusive

streamer for Lucas oil late model races. And as times gone on, it's kind of become more known

that yeah, obviously we know Lucas oil has been getting out of the ownership of series.

More and more. So yeah, a lot of things. So, which I HR a lot of like polling league, the

boat racing league. But yeah, so there's a lot of, you know, a lot of bad secrets will say around

that, but it's finally official. Why would I still not much is going to change that we'll see same.

So for the end of the season, end of the season, they did announce at the Lucas oil banquet that

the top four playoff format will no longer be a bit back to a normal all season points deal.

So some bonus deals. So my towards the end of the season. Yeah, some bonus deals to try to

yeah, make some pizzazz out of it, but just not going to affect Ricky Thornton Jr. getting screwed

out of the title like three years. Yeah, Ricky Thornton Jr. should be a three time Lucas oil champion,

only one time. So get me wrong to the first year at Eldora. That was one of the best late model

race. One of the craziest, but awesome late model race. You couldn't ask for one to the wire.

Yeah, and it came down for the extra heart, you know, title right down to the wire. And

I love Devon Moran one last year. I mean, I like Ricky Thornton Jr. I like Devon Moran.

Like, that's the only deal too. So I mean, yeah, I'm not complaining how it was, but I get why

because Ricky Thornton Jr. just kind of dominated it. And there's only one one of three times.

Yeah, we'll see, you know, how it goes. Obviously, we know the Eldora race is on there.

Still paying all the money, too. Yes, because you know, that was kind of the deal. Hey,

the sponsor's putting up the money, you know, big river steel was up in the bill for all this.

Yeah, it says, is this their deal wanting to do it that way? And, uh, definitely they're good

with, uh, going back to traditional deal. So yeah, it should be, should be interesting.

See if, uh, RTJ snoozes it up or you know, Devon can repeat. Hey, never know. Yeah. So, um,

but yeah, they, they said, like, Swally and Riggs, we were talking, um, you know, kind of after

the announcement and all the trucks and trailers for the series are going to stay the same,

the same PRI, but I didn't talk to him because I don't know. Yeah, um, Swally and all the

people in place are still going to be in place. And so again, you probably won't even

notice much changing. Um, schedules, you know, pretty much the same pay point, point is going to be the same,

just a little different. Yeah, different. Yeah. Um, other announcement from PRI, the official,

uh, announcement, uh, geoselzies, formal announcement of his new ride with the Spire Motorsports, uh,

sprint car team with Eric Prutsman is crew chief, which we, we've been saying he's been building

the cars, uh, just not with, uh, no closet martial involved with this one. This is straight spires.

Cause, you know, they're part of closet martial on the Tatecourtney deal. Yeah. This is them alone,

which with Chili's is a backer, which Carson Hosevars got their late model too, which did at the dome.

But at the dome, he says he's planning on racing, you know, 15 to 20 weight sounds or 12, 15, 20,

and their deal. So they got Hosevars late model as well with Chili. So they're trying to get a bigger

dirt like our dirt late model and sprint car. Yeah. Well, and just announced a little bit ago, uh,

today that Chili's is the presenting sponsor for the flow coverage for the Chili Bowl this year.

So Chili's makes sense. Literally restaurant I just ate at last week. I did hear that was coming

that Chili's was going to be. Yeah. I heard that at PRI. So it's going to be a chili. But the

interesting thing, which I've seen a little rumbling, but not much, which the Charter thing comes

into play with high limits. Cause this will be a high limit team. Uh, they bought the Corey Day Charter

from Jason Myers racing. Yeah. Uh, $400,000. Yeah. To take that over. So, um, good, better and

different when we talk about barrier of entry right now, the barrier of entry for a, what was

Corey eighth, ninth and points, or was he higher than that? I don't know. I don't remember,

but $400,000. Yeah. Is it going right right now for, uh, well, I'm sorry, a card, not a charge.

That's what a franchise, whatever we're calling it. So, you know, I mean, any team, you know, like

Bobby Alia, Darren Knight, uh, I mean, even, you know, uh, cap Henry's team, but, you know,

just a measly 400,000, if you want to do it, you know, oh, wait, Spires can afford that. Yeah.

Who else can? Yeah. And hardly nobody. I mean, granite. You get great for the sport. I know.

It's great for the sport. You get, you know, they're guaranteed some points, money. So, yeah,

obviously you're not going to be all out 400 G starting from zero. Um, and I get the point of

the card charter deal. It's an asset to buy and sell asked NASCAR and Michael Jordan and Bob

Jenkins for motor sports, how much fun that was to deal with. Yeah. If you didn't see the,

the NASCAR versus 2311 court stuff back to Indy car for at one time. Yeah. So,

I mean, it is what it is, but just saying we talk about bringing more money and all that. Well,

to be into the game of high limit, obviously 400 Jesus a starting point. So,

I mean, yeah, there's no all-star team. There's no local teams, a handful world outlaw teams.

I mean, that can't afford to go basically half a million dollars to just start to charge that.

That was my whole concern of the deal. Oh, it's a lot better meant for the sport. It is,

like I said, for the top 10 richest teams. Yeah, I mean, we had a lot of drivers winning lots

of money last year in spring card. I get it. Well, yeah, that's the good point. And I talked,

we talked with Bill Miller and, uh, well, both about this is at least just your bill. And I

talked a lot. Now you have 48 guys getting money on on those nights. And so I just 24. Mm-hmm.

You got 48 guys getting good money, which is that is the betterment of the sport. Yes.

This is the whole, you know, throughout, but this whole, how this, uh, Charter deal and all this,

card deal is going to be so great to the sport. It is for the top 10, but it sucks for everybody else.

Yeah. Um, so, yeah, we'll keep an eye on that as things go along. Obviously, if, if teams are

going to be getting out, I mean, my thing is when the day comes, someone will say a Brent

Marxist side, I want to go back to Pennsylvania. Yeah. I want to sell this Charter and nobody's

there to buy it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. His, you know, he's hiring points. Yeah. So it's like 500.

Is this worth 600? Yeah. I mean, again, you're granted some good money just by buying that. I

give it, but you still got to run the season, which costs a lot of money. Yeah, you got to run all

their shows and all their shows, which I get, but then at the end of the year, it's, you know, you're

not going to run anywhere. They can. But if you miss one of their shows, you, yeah, which to me is a

okay rule, right? Like, well, we'll always do that. Run anywhere you want, except for,

obviously, you got to be at our shows to keep your status instead of doing this. You got to

approve this bullshit and that bullshit. Like I said, late model racing, you wouldn't have a

series if you tried that. Right. So anyway, we'll keep an eye on it. Obviously, but, uh, yeah,

that's, uh, I feel like it wasn't really blasted out there enough, um, just kind of the business side

of things. Like, that's like, Dwayne said, that's not a regional guy going, let's race nationally

now. Yeah. That's not going to be able to have it. Like Danny Sam's, I mean, I know he went

back to high limits, but he can't buy a charter. Yeah. I mean, yeah, man, we'll see how it goes.

Um, so other news, just some driver announcements with teams, Chris Madden returning behind the

wheel semi full time, um, in the late model side, but with the Wells Motorsports infinity house

program, they're not racing nationally or anything, but racing a lot of big shows, obviously,

I expect to see a medal. Dora, um, more likely, more likely, all the other big shows, especially

through the Carolinas Kentucky and all that. But, uh, yeah, Chris Madden back in the wheel.

Oh, shade, hell tour race. Yeah, with a little more full time, uh, visibility, uh, Dalton Wilson,

departing the Justin, Justin rant lift team where Josh Rice went, uh, announced he's going to be

behind the big frog 58 car, ribbit, ribbit, which we know that one can rotate at time. So,

yeah, kind of see how long that goes, but good for Dalton, uh, Tanner English was another big one,

kind of forced to resign from, uh, Colton Farms racing as they're moving their bases back to

Georgia, which I found out that's why Zach Mitchell left, too. Yeah. So don't worry about your family,

or anything. Just if you want to race, you got to come here. Yeah, right now, which Tanner English,

I was reading, you know, he just built a whole shop up in Benton, Illinois, not to be confused

with his hometown of Benton, Kentucky. Right. Um, he likes Benton. Well, his father-in-law is

Rodney Melvin who's a Illinois guy. So I assume it's probably close to there. Um, we're

Rodney's out of, but, uh, yeah, you know, he's got a full, full shop ready to go for a full-time

team just, uh, well, like I said, I got a family, I can't just uproot everything we have. We just,

we just bought this here because of this team, you know, and it hellsed it out of there. So he'd

be closer and then, oh, we're going to do everything, which, Scotland's money, he can do what he wants,

but kind of shady deal, I think. Yeah. I mean, Tanner's been recently successful. I put him up

there as one of the top touring guys and, you know, who did they, they put, I forget, uh,

there's a Macintosh. He's in with, uh, for Zach Mitchell. Yes. Yeah. Uh, Luke, Luke Murray.

Laurie is rumored. Not official. Okay. I haven't seen it confirmed. Um, who is, I believe he's

from originally from a Michigan actually. Um, he's using the back pack. Yeah. He's the younger guy

just, uh, coming up to the ranks, um, have not seen or get up to sure. Yeah. Uh, from Potasco,

Ohio, but lives in North Carolina now. I know he always had Ferris mowers and he always had

metal militia or the Brian Dayton brand on his car. I don't know if he's got some mass car ties.

I don't know much about him, but, uh, yeah, he was supposedly rumored to be kind of taken over

that spot. So I haven't heard for sure. I haven't seen for sure. So if it has been announced,

to apologize, Colton Farms was on his car before. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, he just graduated, uh,

officially graduated at 16 years old, last hour there. So he's not a very old fella. No. Um,

yeah. There's a nice picture of a nice picture of a asphalt car torn all hell that he drove. So

anyway, whatever we'll see where it goes. But, uh, yeah, Tanner English looking for a ride. I saw

the days looking for the right fit and not, not above going down to regional, but, uh, would like

to stay national. He's got his 2016 rocket chassis, an open car trailer to, to get by if he needs,

but obviously that's not going to take it to Brownstone. Yeah. Obviously that's not going, uh,

full time on the road by any means. So, um, other bit of news in Madsen announced today. I saw

in the ride the hybrid or 19 car, which don't know what the plans were, where they're going to race,

if it's, you know, yeah, because it's kind of a part time team. Yeah. They don't race full time as

it is. Yeah. So, um, but, you know, Hunter Sherenberg was in that car wrong with some others, uh,

in the past. Um, what was the other one? It's got to feel jumping to Wheeler Wheeler Motorsports

for a word of all-walk campaign. Yeah. One of the rookies of the years for that loss. Yeah.

So, that'll be, that's a team based in Indiana. Um, Wheeler owns their own day, uh,

bleep plumbing heating shop or something for years. Race for years. Use race sod, use race

Brian novella. Uh, yeah. It was always a 360 team into the last few years. He had some other

people in his car. I, uh, Max Gilford was IRA this past year. Yeah. Uh, it sounds like Max was

kind of surprised that he lost a ride from what I was hearing. Gotcha. Uh, Tyler Rankin was in it

before. Yup. Run IRA, I believe. Yup. Um, race around here for a little bit. Yeah. The other bit I

have, uh, Aldora Speedway, officially announcing their schedule, which, uh, not a whole lot of

surprises because we already knew most of the big dates and their traditional dates kind of

said the same, but the big ones, the rally X dates at the end of June, I believe. Yeah, June 27th,

28th. Don't really know what that is. I'm guessing rally cars of some kind, which means I'm guessing,

uh, like, uh, I don't know if same as rally cross. Yeah. I don't know. I probably should have

looked that up. But, uh, I know when they did like the trophy truck thing, um, that's like tear the

track up and it, uh, kind of didn't work that well. So, um, I don't know what the plan is for

this one, how the track's going to be laid out and anything like that. Uh, I'm looking at it up

as we speak. But, uh, yeah. So they go for another one, Sweden, Finland, Sweden, then they go to

Crandon and Aldora, and then they go to Denmark and Germany. So it's a little big, big, uh,

international series. Yeah. It looks like, so that's pretty new. Something new.

Yeah. And they have the, so there's rally X and rally X America's league, which is Crandon,

Aldora, and then, uh, basically off road. That's why I thought. Yeah. Just like rally. So I

must be going to be putting some jumps in somewhere. Yeah. I would imagine. Don't know where it's all

going to sneak through and around. But, uh, could be cool. We'll see where it goes, but looks like

Ken or Faust has been racing in it. So there's a navy and up maybe, maybe don't know, but, uh,

sponsored by Napa. Is it has been? I don't know if he is this year, but he has been for quite a while.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that was kind of the big surprise on the schedule. We'll say, obviously

otherwise season openers back in April, uh, April 18th, April 18th. That's my birthday. I'll have

you know, uh, family fireworks may second, uh, and then let's race two May 15th and 16th, which

pushed back a week, uh, flow racing night in America before the dream. Is it two weeks?

Uh, well, actually, it was always like the 17th. Maybe the second, third, depending on how the weekends

fell. The dream, Jack, you at classic, another speed week, sprint speed week date, um, in the rally

X, uh, King's Royal weekend, another fireworks night on the 1st of August, the Labor Day weekend,

the Baltas Classic, World of 100, Forecrown, Lucas Oil race in October. So yeah, nothing too crazy,

but, uh, yeah, schedule is out there. Got a new stock car driver going to be at El Dorr for points.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Chad Parman. Oh, okay. One so much of race or pavement. It's been racing

during the last few years, one, two shows at Oakshade this past. Say, you know, I race eight times,

one, two of them in Oakshade. Yeah. Fortyth year racing. It's car owner Billy Circles like,

I want to race El Dorr. So they just went to Pura, Illinois, and got a Mullins engine.

Oh, cool. Um, yes, like we talked to PRI, uh, USAC released their schedules, um, nothing too crazy

on those that I saw. They go about East again, um, come back to Butler at the end of June,

then, uh, I go do their, uh, Indian sprint week at the end of July, back to, um, Indian

apps more speedway for the opening night. On the day before Butler to you, I don't think

it's on there, but, uh, I'm pretty sure Mill Stream is gonna be on the schedule on the 26th of June.

Yeah, sure. There's TBA still. And the 28th is a Sunday that's TBA. Look for the 26th to be Mill Stream.

Gotcha. Um, then the end, uh, you know, no out west stuff until the end of the season,

they go to Dodge City, Kansas, Emerald, Texas, and then the following weekend, the 23rd,

24th of October, as at Central Arizona raceway. So yeah, I don't know. Did you see anything on the

National sprint car schedule that stuck out in your mind, Dwayne? Um, nothing really out of

an ordinary 50 some races. I mean, uh, I mean, it's pretty basic. I mean, I'm glad to come

back to Butler. It sounds, uh, pretty solid. I mean, it hasn't been officially announced, but, uh,

pretty sure Mill Stream is gonna be on that weekend too. So, I mean, it's awesome to come

back there. Yeah, we go back out to California. I'm sorry, I'm talking midgets now. They go out to

California through the year. Um, looks like the BC's on June 30th this year. June 30th and

July 1st, which they did that 4th and July, like in middle of the week, uh, 4th and July last year.

Okay. Um, yeah. Gotcha. So they go from Cokamoon, April, straight to Midget Week in June.

Yeah, they don't have a lot. Uh, well, and you sack wasn't 94 or 99 dates total where you can

run all of them. Mm hmm. Try to get the trip crown. Yeah. Last year, they had some hefty bonuses, uh,

if you want part of the trip crown or all the triple crown. So sure, there might be some of that

happening in new you sack president. Yeah. Which said, should be interesting. From everybody I've

talked to said, they think it's for the good. Yes. That's what I told you as well. This guy. Oh,

do you see my shirt? I did. I would not let you in my house that I know. Robert Blue had done zip

his coat. So it's going to be the you sack champion. Uh, silver crowns called out in Kansas and

may then go to Lucas oil, uh, St. Louis, worldwide technology raceway, gateway used to be called

then Port Royal for the Eastern Storm week, Tara Houghts, Winchester, Iowa and August, Illinois,

State, uh, Springfield and then DeCoin, August and September, TBA, September 13th,

uh, Aldora for the four crown and then they end their season, October 3rd at Toledo Speedway.

Yeah, on the back of Toledo. So you've been in the IRP a few years, uh, didn't Toledo before.

Winchester's the day after the King's Royal. Yes. Um, so I think that might be a decent move.

Gotcha. As long as King's Royal don't get rained delayed to the next day. Yeah, that'd be a bad move.

Yeah, you know, this, uh, yeah, I mean, pretty much why I figured sucks no adica, no free amount.

Yep. As of yet, maybe one of the TBAs on that, never mind.

Yeah, no better. We know better. No lima. Um, loves the lima on there. Other than that, I don't have much else.

One more word out. All rookie. What's that? Scott Bagusky, three stooges. That's right.

Racine. Yes. 51 car. Word outlaws. There's three. They said there's going to be at least three,

three to four rookies. Uh, I did not guess one would be, um,

Scotty Theo. Um, and Bagusky, I mean, he's been around. So there's been his goals since

came from Australia. So three stooges. I like they're ready. Yeah, he raised ASCS. So he's traveled

nationally before. Just a little different capacity. Yeah. So yeah, we will see, I guess.

I know I haven't seen much. If it's a schedule issue, but there's a lot of rain up in the north,

northwest right now, uh, through Washington and all that. So I don't know. I saw everybody Blake Anderson

was posting, like four inches of rain or whatever and, you know, hours or something. It's all

huge flooding and stuff. I haven't seen a schedule. It's affected by it. That might have been

a little over a week ago, but, uh, you know, talk about, uh, a lot of the stuff that affects racing,

even though it's off season, but, uh, one bad flood can probably ruin your, uh, ruin your day.

So, um, I don't think they're affected in any way, but, uh, like I said, I know something that

was out there and, uh, not, uh, not a fun thing for a lot of people to deal with. So, right. Um,

otherwise, we got chili bowl coming up. Tulsa shoot out coming up. So when is the chili

bowl this year doing? Uh, 20 days from today. It starts. Well, I actually practices, uh,

18 days from now. So the fifth? No, it's the week after the 12, because the fifth will be our next

episode. So that's a week before the chili bowl. Yes. Oh, I just got a message. Uh, let me read it.

Don't good evening, sir. Thought I would wish you an LA and a Merry Christmas on Dirtner's

night. Not sure if you're recording that. Looking forward to the chili bowl preview and hope you

guys have a great Christmas. P.S. Go Steelers. Yeah, I don't like him. You don't like Graham. Nope.

You don't like Graham. I really like Steelers. I don't like him. That's from our buddy, Graham,

in Australia. And he is working on some sprint cars in a shop. Right now getting ready for boxing

night. Oh, yeah. Uh, let's see who's he working on. Number 28. Um, not him. We'll see.

To read a little bit of the name. Looks like it ends in E. E. F.

Me. Ashton. Min. F. Manif. Manif. Yep. I see that N 14. Yep. That's a wing hanging on the wall.

And 14 looks like he's an N 28 that they're working on. Yeah. There's two or three cars in the

back ground. Oh, two brothers racing. One young. Ashton. Oh, he's, uh, is all speedway in

sprint car. He is one we have on the podium with twice this year. So far, his older brother,

Lachlan is a tire racer about to have his second to fourth race meeting in a sprint car.

Cool. Ashton, Manif. There you guys got someone to root for over there now. Those

thing, tire racers, you know, uh, yeah, backs are the big challenge. Tars were getting there,

Graham. I was high limit race over and Perth. Yep. Uh, starts 28th our time for him. And, uh,

it was 110 grand this year. 46 or seven nominations. Yes. Over there's nominations.

Yeah. Let's say when they say we're going to a meet. It's like, what's your home? Where? What

do you mean about? Yeah, nominations. Yeah, 110 K to win live on flow. Yes. So 28th and

third through the 30th of December. I see the dirt draft thing has to be in like at four

a.m. in the morning. So that means, uh, when we'd be at flow coverage, you have to get up early in

that morning to watch them. Yes. Yes. Lower early. Replays always available. But, uh, yes,

here. Fosses out there, Carson, Cito, Whittle, Rico, Colum, Cito, Buddy,

Buddy, Cory Day, Kyle Larson, Brad Sweet, not doing it this year. No, he has Brad sweet. Sorry,

missed it on the, uh, but, uh, yeah, there's a lot of the Australian guys, Kaden Manders,

always tough. Um, obviously, Kerry Madsen, um, Jack Goodyear, McFadden's out there.

Daniel Harding and Ritesholt's going. Harding, which actually used to be, uh,

he raced in this area for a while. Yeah, Harding, uh, where was the other one?

Was Lockwood, McEw? Is he not racing? I did not see where he was. Yeah, I did not see.

Which I know there's a, like, because Purse all the way on the west side of Australia,

then Sydney has their side. I don't know if they overlap. I don't know enough about it, but, uh,

yeah, there's, there's, you know, different areas to that country as well. Uh, quite a big country,

actually. So, uh, don't know if everyone crosses the whole country or not, uh, when needed, but, uh,

yeah, lots, big, big deal for them over there, 110 K to win. So, yeah, cool to see.

I don't know what that is in Australia. Or is that $3 million? Is that Australian money?

I don't know. American. Yeah. What's the, what's the exchange rate? Yeah. I don't know. American or

Australian money? I don't know. 110 K. Um, what else are we missing? Um, Graham said hello. Hi,

Graham. Um, Steelers suck. No, they don't. Brown suck. Yes, they do. Steelers play the browns

this week and they'll probably get beat. Easy, freaking win for you. I hope so. Um, seems like

there's something else I was going to bring up and I was forgetting, but I don't remember now.

I'm sure we're missing plenty. I know. But, uh, it's always hard to recap at all and remember

everything that was announced. I'll put it that way. Shout, Ryan, Larry.

Gonna be back on board with my NASCAR driver. There you go. Too bad, Ali. It's tight-ass and

it won't help you. Yeah. Too bad. Um, sorry, I don't have $10,000 like you do to give to a quarter

minute team. I'm sorry. Uh-huh. I know. I know you race quarter midges. That's how smart you are.

Slingshots, right? Right. Sorry. I saw they moved up in the world or changed. I forgot.

For long, it'll be sprint cars. Um, then you'll upgrade your sponsorships to 20 grand a season.

Right. Maybe 50. There you go, Ryan. I'm helping you out, man. Maybe 50. Um, yeah, I don't know.

Seems like there's something a, uh, Jeff Halligan team folded two or three from Pennsylvania. Now,

that's as they're getting their big series and TV. And Pennsylvania, dude, like somebody was

talking to me. I don't know who it was in the last couple weeks. Like, think of the motor program

because their Williams Grove Port Royal. I mean, it's all big shit. A lot of big tracks. They got to

have like a world all motor program almost to be local. Yeah. That's why he's got to pay. I mean,

those tracks are huge. Even, even baps is pretty big in a Lincoln for being probably one of the

smaller ones is still big. Long straight away. He's tight corners. I mean, yeah, still takes more

power. Yes. Yeah. And if you think like, you're like a team like Danny Dietrich and you're like,

you know, he's, he's a Pennsylvania region guy. And it's like, if you look at his operation,

he's got quite a bit there. Well, I think that's why those guys do good when they come out on

the outlaw tour or race with them because they're basically outlaw equipment. Yeah. I mean,

we got to face it. It basically is. There's some gotta be some pretty healthy car owners in Pennsylvania

because you're racing those big tracks all the time. So that means quicker injury builds. Yeah.

And stuff. And yet, you know, have your shit together because you don't want stuff breaking on

those big tracks. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Uh, looking at like you said, some of those teams and

it's like they have like, like, Macri, obviously, he's, he could be an outlaw tomorrow. If you wanted it to be,

you know, it's just a lot of those top puns of any teams. Oh, last of these change rides again, too.

Yeah, I think we talked about that a while ago. Yeah. Because the 12 car was going back to cheer running

and whatever. And we was going to somewhere. Oh, they ate car. Yes. The Eichelberger car.

Or Eichelbert way, right? Eichelberger. Something like that. Eichelberg. Something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause your boss going back to his own deal. It sounds like so. What do I do? If I do PA again.

Who's your boss? Yeah. Well, sounds like he is, but sounds like it. I haven't heard any different. So

all right. Yeah. I know. I'm sure I'm forgetting something on this or you convene January 5th.

I might be here. So that'll be a good wrap up on the shoot out and a preview of the

chili ball 360 midgets in the chili ball right now. And so that way the week of the chili ball,

we won't have an episode. So that'll work. And then when you're back next episode,

then we'll talk about your visit there. Yeah. Chili ball. Yeah. Cause we know you ain't going to go

visiting anywhere. No. Best seats on my couch, my man. Gateway Dirt Nationals. Tickets went on

say on a stay. Yeah. Gidgers. Hell yeah. I did. You did. You know it. I think

Al Dora renewals were like, yeah, they started. They started. I got my email. They go through the

end of January though. Gotcha. Where I've heard I've seen all kind of people was having issues

getting Gateway Dirt Nationals on said that they's going so quick they couldn't get their seats.

Nice. I'm glad I like my seats because it sounds like everybody's trying to get the front

few rows. I moved. So we'll see what happens to the scout deal. He scouted them out and said,

yeah, next year I want those. Well, we really don't want to move. I love our seats and we talked

about it because it's real convenient. It's a bathroom. You literally run the hallway as soon as

you access the men's restroom. The women's right down there. There's a good session there. So

literally if you're quick enough, you can take a piss or go get something to drink and eat

in between. Yeah. Races. Well, if you know what races, you know, coming back, back like if

when they're switching classes or like you, okay, we need to do a fence repair for five minutes.

Go down, take a piss. And it's right there. So we switched a little because

we don't want people sitting in our laps next year. Yeah. Well, I did something a little different

this year too. I bought four tickets because I keep having to hand full people say, oh, we're going to

go. We're going to go. So just case if not, I'll sell them. Yeah. We'll move down a little

farther. That's yeah. We're going to be on the front stretch. Okay. It's a guy in the situation

but on the front stretch. Good deal. Yeah. I think four sections down, three or four sections down,

four sections down. Could you tell if there was more open to buy or not by when you went to buy

your seats? I got mine. Dude, what it turned right at 11 o'clock and then they have their little glitch

like they do for the first 10 minutes or it says they're all sold out and soon as it popped. I was

on but I heard people saying they had to do five different times. It says, oh, your seats sold by

time they put on any other information. I won't tell you the secret to that. So you didn't get a

chance to look at the whole map and see if more opened up up top thing. Oh, none of the up top

were. Oh, okay. They don't sell those till the bottom is sold out. Oh, gosh. There's people

bitching about that. Well, we want for some because we set up their last year and it's great and

they're like, well, those the bottom is going to sell out before they open the top. Gotcha. Okay.

Yeah. So those people is like, yeah, which makes sense. Yeah. I mean, not like the bottom

ain't going to sell out now. Yeah. I mean, not big enough. You can pretty much expect it. Yeah.

Like that's just the rule because once they open the top, you know, the cleaning and all that. So

I get it. Yeah. So some people probably won't buy theirs that want to set up top because those

don't go on sale. They said there'll probably be a couple months for those gone sale. Gotcha.

Yeah. So if you haven't get on the getaway dirt national thing, get your dome tickets.

You know, a lot of new people and like I said, I see a lot of people's like, by the time I typed in

all my information and got everything, it said I had to get different tickets and get different

tickets. Some people's business said the front row seats wasn't for sale this year. I don't know

I'm not sure. Yeah. Oh, it's fun. Yeah. You got cheers. That's what matters, right?

Well, I got some different ones. So hopefully I like these. Yeah. We'll see. Guess so.

We'll have some different neighbors. Good. So new friends for you to meet the win.

Yes. Right. You go. Maybe I'll get lucky and some of them give me a couple sweet tickets. I mean,

that'd be nice. Many connections I have. That's one but I get offered all kinds of shit.

I never get any offered any sweet deals for the on paying for me. I would. I will say like when

you watch on TV, it looks so dark up in the sweet area. Oh, it is. It's like, this looks like my

scenes are right next to the sweets. I mean, literally, I lean my back is up against the sweet wall.

So it is. It's like, well, they didn't turn on those. Usually there's some lights.

I have some TVs up there. But the lights wasn't on this year. Yeah. Usually there's lights above

the sea. Yeah. I like when you're out in the seating area. There's lights down. It's like

it doesn't have any doors on this. Yeah, it was. Which maybe it was they asked for it because the view

or like fucked up seeing the race. I don't know. But yeah, just kind of. I didn't mind it. It was. It was

dark. Yeah. You're you looking place though. It's okay. It's scared of the dark man. Well,

it's almost like a guy. So are you? Sometimes, sometimes lately, yeah, I've been. That's your

girlfriend, man. She brings out the best. If I win the power ball, Tanner English will have a ride.

There you go. I will tell you that. All right. Well, got nothing else. Tanner's one of my

guys. I like him. I like him. He's always been cool, super cool to me when I've talked to him. Yeah.

He'll walk up to you to talk to you out of nowhere. That's right.

I can't think of anything though. Phillip Rivers through touchdown pass tonight.

Oh man, still slinging it. Hey, look at that. I can't say it knock out of wood. Rodgers

the last three weeks looks like. And Rodgers old. Yeah. I was like, I was like,

closing to that game. Holy shit. Dude, I said there for 10 minutes last night. It's

looking like, what the hell did I just see? I mean, even that stealer fan they won because that was

just there's a whole lot going on in that last play. Yeah. It was quite the ending for sure.

I mean, I think it was right call. I know Detroit fans don't want to say that, but it was definitely

Pat offensive passing. Yeah, I didn't see I'm in Ross deal, but obviously if that's the call,

like the game can't end on defensive penalty. Well, that was an offensive penalty. Yeah. So it

can't end on that. Well, then when they the count of the touchdown was the golf, but still,

one of the how do you stop forward progress? I mean, they've had him back five yards. You

all backwards like that whistle should have blown way before that. Yeah. So that would have been

interesting if there wasn't a pass in your fingers because yeah, I that I don't think you could

review forward progress. I've never heard of that. I don't think so. But it's like dude, he was

forward progress. Like one thing I like carrying back to midfield. Yeah. I mean, it was.

I mean, I know Detroit, but it and I will say they called they called Steelers for offensive pass

interference in that game too. I mean, Granando, both of Detroit's were in the end zone towards the end,

but they was both blatant. I mean, that one was the most bait blatant pick play. I know like a basketball

pick. I mean, yeah, I mean, you're going to get away with it. Don't make them so obvious. Yeah.

That's how you get away with them is not make them so obvious.

We'll say the brown suck, but we did give Buffalo one hell of a career yesterday. I thought

there's going to come back and win. Yeah, it was. I didn't watch any of it because I just gave up

at this point, but yeah, I just saw my I'm on fantasy league with my buddies and one guy had Josh

Allen as a starting QB and only had like six fantasy points. Oh, what a good game for old Josh

Allen. So you need Jalen warned. Yeah, use your beast for yeah. Oh, that's what happens when

you actually put a full back in the backfield that you have on the team. Yeah. Well, all right,

enough football talk. We'll get out of here. Again, we'll be back to 5th of January. Yeah.

Is that like don't like interviews? That's right. A lot of people's like, why don't you have

interviews and why do you guys go to buy weekly? Like, well, I like don't go to races. You know,

like, yeah, one or time. That's why I don't like the Wayne. Yeah, that's the biggest. Anyway,

thank you for listening. Yeah. See, I don't like your ass. Thank you for listening. Thank you

for tuning in. Despite what Dwayne says about me. I do like the podcast and I do like all your fans.

So thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in. He shows up by coming out. See you guys a lot.

And tell your friends, tell your family. Merry Christmas, everyone. It's coming this week.

Three days. We got Christmas. So hope you all have a wonderful holiday and joyous time with families.

With great Christmas. Hopefully y'all get whatever you want. If you're a Tulsa shootout driver,

you'll probably be like loading in on Christmas or some shit. But yeah, not too far off. So

have a happy holiday, everybody. We will see you next time. As always, stay dirty. Buh-bye.

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