Exploring the World of Automotive Wheels: From Customization to Car Auctions and Historical Firsts
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30 minute mini version of the In Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central.
It's the In Wheel Time car talk show and just ahead we have more All Things Automotive talk Plus Conrad's going to have this week in Auto History and the cruise in calendar, and we'll get you caught up on the stories Making headlines.
This week, howdy, along with David Ainsley, who's filling in for Mr Mars.
This week King Conrad DeLong.
We always need more Jeff Zekin.
I'm Don Armstrong and glad you could join us on this Saturday for our live broadcast.
By the way, if you're listening on to one of our podcasts later on in the week, we do this show live every Saturday, 8 to 11 am Central Time, so you can get the latest and the greatest live and living color of NBC.
No, not on NBC On Smoke and Mears.
No, that's, you're mistaking it for the tell no not that one.
That's the Nobody Cares television, that NBC.
Thanks, don, you're welcome.
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
We're waiting to get hold of Chad Chung.
Hopefully he's going to call us.
The rims are us guy that I had great time with.
He's an eBay seller and right spot on.
You know, you never know what you're going to get on eBay or anywhere else for that matter, when you order something online, and especially when it comes to wheels.
Let me tell you something I had no clue.
The number of kinds of wheels out there that are for sale.
I didn't even look at it when I came in.
I need to listen to that.
They're not on yet.
They're not on, so I toted them over to John Gray over at Gulf Coast Auto Shield.
Don don't put them on the car.
Let us have the wheels, let us coat them for you, prep them, prep them, and then we'll you bring the car over when we call you.
Okay, and we'll change everything out.
Great, we'll do that, but I haven't gotten that phone call yet.
But.
But his coding is going to help the wheel, not the dust from the brakes not adhere to the wheel, which is a big issue with a lot of wheels.
And so, at any rate, we've got got that cooking and it's in the process.
So I took the wheels over there on Monday in the cell toast and and got them out of the car and they've stacked them up in the storage room.
You know we did the broadcast from there live last week and you know the storage room that we use back there in the back of the shop.
And it was interesting because before I left I went up to say John, I gave the wheels to Serene.
She's got them.
Put them in the back, okay, don hey, thank you very much.
He had, I don't know, half a dozen people in his office wanting service.
That's what he does.
I know, and I didn't want to interrupt, that that's his, that's his, that's his bread and butter.
But I'll tell you what man.
That guy's busy, yep, very busy and busy with my opinion, an extremely high end clientele.
Yeah, there was a lot of high end vehicles there.
There's a lot of money in that shop.
Yeah, that one guy from the BMW group impressed me.
You know young guy, yeah, very smart.
Then there was the other guy too that I don't remember what car he had he was a guy building the Audi twin turbo.
Yeah, that guy, yep, young guys that have done well for themselves one way or the other and they are able to kind of like we were, except they've got money.
We did, we wanted to be, we had style we well we had ingenuity we laughing down there.
What we, we, we were able to do things with a little money.
You know, beg, borrowing steel.
We didn't steal.
But we did have a group of guys that, hey man, do you know somebody that's got a manifold, a limited manifold for a, for a Small block Chevy?
Yeah, well, yeah, that.
And you know, Holly.
Yeah, it's all set up.
You know we got somebody that's got a Holly carburetor attached to a small block Chevy aluminum manifold, probably an Edelbrock or something like that, and he's wanting to sell it.
Well, you know, put those two things together back in the day were 40 bucks would have bought it.
Yeah, 33 at $300 or $400 new, and somebody wanted to sell it and they'll hey, man, I'll take you, I'll take $100.
Will you take 75?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're 75.
That's how you did it back then 75 dollars and a lid for you.
That would be you.
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, we didn't do that.
No, we didn't.
We didn't trade for lids back then, but it was always, it always fun, and then we'd all get together and help put.
You had to go out and buy the gaskets Mm-hmm at, at high-low auto I don't know, hi low, remember hi low.
We're competition.
We didn't have high.
We didn't have high.
We had western and we had a Independent you at Easter?
No, no, we had.
There was a guy went to high school with.
His name is Douglas Wood.
His dad owned Jean's auto supply and I went to school with Jean and his brothers and Todd Sheldon, who's now in Denver.
We all hung out together and we needed parts.
We would go there and buy them.
Yeah, well, you know, hi low was right there at the intersection of will open and post oak and, and all of us were in there at some time or another.
Yes, competition sales was around, but they were over in spring branch and they dealt mainly with the manifolds and the carburetors.
And Then, early on I got to, I found Craig Bierman at speed and sport chrome plating.
Now and the.
Doug headers Pardon me, and the Doug headers, doug Doug Thorley headers.
Yes, now, I didn't buy any of those because they were way out of my price range.
For Craig, it was headman headers, yeah, okay, yeah, that's what he had stacked in the house all throughout the house.
I had appliance headers on my appliance I never heard of there's just a low-end yeah yeah, I had hookers on my Ozoneville.
Yeah, well, you spent the big box.
I also had hookers on my SS 396.
Head hookers are a different.
Is there difference between something like you know Doug Thorley, or or hooker headers and a headman headers?
They're all made the same way.
Yeah, I don't know that there's a big difference.
You know you can get tube size variation depending on what you want to do oh, six, oh, or whatever.
Yeah, and then some of them would come wrapped, some of them would come coated.
But you know, once you got them wrapped and coated, you were more than doubling the price of them.
Yeah, yeah, no, we'd buy you sets of headers that are a pre-rusted yeah that and all broken up, or you know, somebody had beat on the get beat on it to get it.
Yeah, the starter clear, the starter at the bottom of them already flattened out.
Whatever it took me, you know, just made it work.
JB weld on.
JB weld.
Yeah, good stuff back in the day, yep.
If you own a quadrajet carburetor, you know what JB weld was.
Yeah, that's what you needed to fill those well plugs up and keep it from leaking.
Yeah, there's that.
I'm thinking.
That's what I smelled.
This is burning like bad rubber tires.
Um, I thought that we would do our Hemings comm soul, ours roundup.
Get ready, david.
You know it's interesting is Almost every week.
One of the first cars on the opening page is a Cadillac.
Hello.
I Find it interesting that, jeff, there you go.
This is one for Kylie, his granddaughter.
Oh, it's affordable and she will be the talk of school she drives up in this a 1975.
I can see it in my mind Cadillac Fleetwood, oh man.
She won't be able to fit it in the garage but gonna need to park a spot.
Yeah, but so how much do you think that that sold online at an online auction called six thousand dollars?
6000, I'll say nine, nine, seven seven eight hundred seven, eight hundred, great in the middle.
Okay, well, it actually sold for 16,000.
Yeah, it looks good shape.
Yeah, four door With a.
Looks like it has a vinyl roof.
Well, yeah, and it's bigger than a school bus.
Yeah no doubt.
Here's a 2004 Corvette that's a C5 and it's sold for 29 for all right.
Moving on to another Corvette, a 1999 Chevrolet Corvette coupe.
It also is a C5.
What do you think it looks like it?
Well, I don't know whether it has two roofs, but at least they got the roof panel removed so you can see it.
How much do you think a 1999 Chevy Corvette would go for it looks clean.
It's certainly not rusted, but we don't know how many miles 16 16 now say 18 well, right in the middle, 17 325 is what it went for.
That's what David guessed.
No, that would well.
That was the.
I Think that was the Cadillac Fleetwood.
We didn't give a chance to guess, that's what I gotta exclude.
Here's another Cadillac.
All right, this one's a good day, this one's a little bit newer 1997 Cadillac Deville, so Dan Deville 23.
Don't base it on the other one that you, that we did earlier 79 or 97 1997 Cadillac sedan Deville, all right beige.
Oh, that raises the price.
Let's go 12.
I'll go five.
Give me a 12 5.
Conrad is gonna be David, almost the winner on that.
I.
Haven't well.
Yeah, that's kind of spread.
But so here it is 1997 Cadillacs at Andeville beige for $4,000, 71 Ford Mustang.
Ooh, what would you pay for?
A 71 Ford Mustang looks straight, it's a white car with black stripes on it.
I Don't know anything about all of it.
Looks like a GT something, and I will give you a hint that it is priced in that range.
Or the GT 31, 31, what would you say?
25?
, 47,250 dollars.
So it must be a really.
I would have been away off.
I would have to.
I would have to.
1992 Jeep Wrangler ooh, I Don't stock wheels square headlights around.
I think it's got round.
Headlights is what it appears to be.
David, you go first.
Let's say that again.
What was it?
It's a 1992 Jeep Wrangler.
You know it's a two-door obviously because they didn't make four doors back then.
It's blue with the black cloth top 9000, 9000, conrad, 12, 12.
How does it go right in the middle?
11?
7500.
You know, but you know I am too.
But you know the other thing is with those.
You don't know how hard it's been beat.
Yeah, yes, you know it's been beat senseless at some point.
But it's made to be beat, you know now has it been racked or something?
No, I don't know.
This is a stand-hold car.
A 2000 BMW Z3.
Oh, cool car.
Stan had one of those very cool car.
They may still have it, I don't know.
A 2000 BMW Z3 convertible oh yeah, it was a little hot rod at the.
Six cylinder in it, straight six in it.
Great handling car great go car.
Yeah, yeah, it's like a go car.
This one is brown, medium brown, I know just.
Who would do ugly brown?
Okay, well, how much you think that that 2000, which is now 23 years old, how much do you think that they got for that car?
18.
I'm thinking 21,000, 30 thousand 13,545 dollars and it looks clean.
It's no less than I thought.
We don't call it medium brown, we call it root beer.
Yeah, well it's.
It's not really dark enough to be root beer, I don't think cream soda 1993 OJ Ford Bronco white.
Nope, got Al Cowling in the passenger seat, driving slowly down the 405.
But yeah with with OJ hiding in the back on the floor with a wig on, with a wig on and a fake mustache.
Now you know, it's a 1993.
So it's 20 years old, no 30 years, 30 years old, so you know it's got some mileage on it and that old Bronco is a two-door and it's got that removable cap on the back 1993.
What do you think that's something like that 11,000 11,000 gonna go 11.
I'll go a little bit less.
I'll go 9,800 17 8, 15.
Oh it looks clean, but you know, it has history, it has history.
That's right, and it's probably got a million miles on it.
That doesn't look like it.
It looks like a clean and a glove in the back seat.
Now, for all of you old-timers that are probably dead by now, a 1910 McLaughlin Buick.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I don't know what a McLaughlin blue Buick is, but I'll see it a few moments.
Yes you will.
I'm, as a matter of fact, I'm gonna go off.
Lin must have been a coach builder for Buick.
Okay, yeah, yeah it's like a kitty ride.
It does look like a kitty ride.
Disney, yeah, 19 Bang bang, because you know, I don't really I know nothing about that era of automobiles.
That was the beginning of the automotive industry.
The classic stuff, yeah, wood wheels, wood wheels and it's pretty looking.
But I mean I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole or several of 10 grand.
I mean, it's got its history.
It is history, but I was gonna say 12.
I'll go 20 25883 Cool color bleep.
Yeah it is.
I know nothing about the car.
This is not one of my favorite Ford Thunderbirds.
I'm gonna tell you that right straight up, a 1964.
Thunderbird, it's the big with the round.
Yeah, I like it.
Do you know you?
Yeah, because we saw.
We saw one or two at Craig's place not very long ago.
Yeah 64 Ford Thunderbird.
What do you think that that would sell for?
It's kind of like got Federer skirts on the back.
Yeah, it's a big car for a two-door car and the ones you generally see.
Now, there's a backseat, doesn't it?
Yeah, for it had a backseat you could put a ton of water to know on it.
Make it look like a two-door.
Yeah, I think this one's gonna do see the ones you see nowadays.
The paint's all cracked and anyway.
So 64 Ford Thunderbird, what would you think that that would go for?
I'm gonna say I just give 10, I say 16.
That was gonna go on the high side about 20 $12,600.
I Guess the point that I'm trying to make here is the fact that for the most part, I think that you could find some real bargains and some real things here.
But boy, I had to do some really steep research on it.
Make sure that it's all straight, probably to send somebody out to inspect the car.
Well, that's why I would think you would have to have someone to go take a here's one that I would be interested in an 85 GMC S15.
That's a little the little, the little truck.
Yeah, okay, it's sold for $5,500.
It looks clean.
You know, got a aftermarket grill on it, but it looks clean.
It would be a starter car.
Yeah, kylie car 81 Land Cruiser that you couldn't Put me in jail before I would buy something like this $45,150.
And it's brown.
Does it come with its own record?
No, but its own mechanic is traveling with you all that root beer.
How about the 2006 AM general Humvee you?
Oh, now this is the real deal military vehicle.
Oh did you ever Brit been in?
one of those.
Oh yeah, I drove them.
Yeah, drove them.
It is a beast with diesel engine in it that sits right here next to you.
Yeah, and that and that was the 65 GM diesel, the Chevy diesel that had a mechanical fuel pump on it, not the electric.
See when GM sold them through that engine Retail in the pickup trucks it had an electric part of a fuel this way had that, had a mechanical, because they wanted the mechanical, because it was more dependable, sure, for the military Yep we did.
We did a show in Orlando with ATD and they one of the wheel companies had one.
All it was black, it had striping on it and everything was.
It was the gen one, it was a military one.
It was pretty cool, sat in the back seat.
You needed to, you know, communicate for people.
Oh yeah, almost a good one.
It was huge and you know, the lanes are so wide.
This thing covered the lane Plus.
It was really well, this 2006 went for 28,875 dollars worth every penny of it.
Yeah, but If you could use it, 28,000, well, almost 29.
Yeah, and the last one here is the BMW 535 I from 2011.
It's a good-looking car.
2011 BMW 535 I.
What do you think it's sold for it?
And then it's interesting because I my eyes went to it when I saw the for sale sign 22,000.
I'll say 23,000 $13,650.
That's a steal.
It is well, but you don't know the condition exactly well, you know.
But when you watch some of the meekum stuff, you know, because I love watching me come, you know.
Yeah, even if, even if it's on and all I have on is a closed caption and I'm not listening to them talk, but I can read what they're saying.
It's amazing how some of that, what I consider extremely high dollar European stuff yeah, goes super cheap.
Yeah well, they're just in Vegas.
What week or so ago?
I didn't watch any of it.
Well, I will tell you this.
You know, and meekum is coming up here in Houston this late winter's, early spring.
What is that?
March, usually March, yeah, at any rate it.
If you're a car person which you're listening to this show, you clearly are I would encourage you to go To the meekum auction.
Paid the, because the deal with the meekum auction is, what you see on Television is when they cross the block.
That's pretty much all you see.
But all of those cars are sitting inside there for you to go up, poke around, look underneath them, see the actual condition of it, take a flashlight if you're interested in buying something so you can actually see and, in some Instances, talk to the owner.
Yeah, there's a lot of those owners are standing around right well, you also, you, when you enter in, if you are a bit or you get a book, you can find out just the preliminary, exactly, and then you deep dive from there.
All right, let's do this week in auto history.
Shall we got it?
you ready to do that yeah?
this week in auto history, Sure okay.
We're ready.
In 1942, this week, the first production Ford bomber B24 Liberator rolled off the assembly line at Ford's massive willow run plant in Ypsilanti, michigan.
Two years earlier, president Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged isolationist Henry Ford to prepare for the inevitable involvement in war, creating the US, making the US industry become part of the great arsenal of democracy.
And Ford built a bazillion of these B24 Liberators.
And then, in 1960, the first International Scout all-terrain vehicle rolled off the assembly line at International harvesters Fort Wayne assembly plant.
The scout became the best-selling vehicle in international history, enjoying a full ten years of production, before being replaced by the much improved Scout 2 in 1971.
By the way, the scouts, coming back, go ahead, okay well, and that was kind of the forerunner to the first-generation Bronco as well.
That's not the Bronco in 1979 the last Pacer was produced by American Motors.
The bubble top Pacer was a reasonably popular economy car.
I don't know that I'd say that, but I did, though it's Jetson styled body attracted a flak from car critics and stand-up comedians alike.
You know I remember who was the guy did the commercial the goldfish commercial about the Pacer and I need a martini actor, former sportscaster here in town.
She had one of those things and I used to make fun of that.
I was but ugly, you leave my car alone.
I like my car but the one of the creative things about it the two-door.
The driver's side door was like six or eight inches Longer than the passenger side door, so it made it easier to get into the back.
The oddest thing in 1984 general motors announced that it would stop production of Diesel engines.
At the time they were allsmobile diesel engines.
According to GM, the diesel motors get excellent miles and produce plenty of power, but tend to be noisy and produce heavy exhaust.
The tightening emission laws drove GM to abandon the diesels altogether.
So GM had a full range of diesel engines, mostly v8.
In 1979 it was offered in the Cutlass, instead of it being a 350 cubic inch was a 260 cubic inch diesel.
That car didn't have enough power to clear a speed bump unless you get a running start at it.
And I was working on them at the time.
They were horrible, horrible pieces of garbage and I remember working on them coming right off the transport truck and knocking.
The engine was knocking, hammering, coming off the transport truck.
The crankshaft was physically broken in three places and the guy drives it off the transport truck.
I parked it right in my stall and said you fix it.
I'm like, oh Christ, I'm a mess.
And then, and then they and, and then they came out with a v6 diesel.
That's still the the 88, which was real popular and I sold a ton of them.
And then in the Cutlass Sierra they offered a v6 which was an exceptional diesel.
Really did a nice job with that.
I had one for a company car and got like 40 miles to a gallon in it, but your feet, your fingers stunk because you had to put diesel fuel in.
It was you know.
And then Ignatio Lopez resigned in 1996 from from General Motors under charges of industrial espionage.
Espionage and, come to think about it, you know, I think he was stealing all of GM's diesel ideas and brought him over to Volkswagen and created all the nightmares of Volkswagen diesels interesting.
But they said he had stolen trade secrets from General Motors when he defected to when he defected to Volkswagen looks like a spy.
That's this weekend auto history okay.
Well, we're not done with you yet.
Let's do the cruise in calendar.
You've got exactly a minute and a half riverfront rally show and shine in Port Netschus, that's over in Mars's area.
Ocean view classics meet and toy drive on Bayshore Boulevard and Bayshore Drive in the Port Texas is this afternoon and to cruise in the entry is free.
Asking for car or toy donations coastal a's rod and car show on Staples Street in Corpus Christi is this weekend.
Again a toy toy donation requested.
Another toy drive at 2470 FM, 1960 west.
Again it's another open meet with a toy drive donation.
Expresso and octane and expresso at black black rifle coffee on highway 6.
And then the car culture toy drive in river oaks on Kirby Drive is tomorrow at 10 am to 12 pm.
That should be.
That should be a pretty good one.
And then finally, cars and cocktails.
Toy drive at Sawyer Park ice house on off a Pruitt Road in spring Texas is tomorrow from 11 to 3, okay we've had people ask me hey man, when's that tailpipes and tacos cruise in gonna be again?
we don't know yet.
I'm glad that it's paused, however, because the weather has not been really cooperative here the past few weeks, especially on the weekend.
It's not been predictable, and not only that, it's about to turn cold.
Yeah, it's going to turn cold tomorrow.
High tomorrow at 55, with a low, I think Monday night, tuesday, of 39.
Seriously yeah, and then here we are today in short sleeves and it's 77 degrees.
Yesterday it's balmy out there it was balmy.
Yeah, next week is locust, locust that's it.
Hey, I went time now for a quick break and we'll be right back.
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About this episode
Dive into the fascinating world of automotive wheels, customization, and car auctions with the In Wheel Time crew. The episode features lively discussions about the variety of wheels available online, including eBay experiences, and the importance of proper wheel care. Listeners will also enjoy a segment on car auction prices, highlighting surprising sales of classic vehicles like Cadillacs and Corvettes. Additionally, the show touches on automotive history, including significant milestones in car production and the evolution of diesel engines.
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Ever wondered what the world of automotive wheels holds? Join us as we step into the fascinating domain of car customization, along with our own Konrad DeLong, Jeff Dziekan, Don Armstrong and David Ainsley. We discuss everything from the various types of wheels available online, to the benefits of wheel coatings. Journey with us down memory lane as we share our experiences with car building, wheel trading, and the unexpected encounters at the Gulf Coast Auto Shield Social Saturday.
Feeling nostalgic? We've got you covered as we explore the recent online Hemmings vintage car auction, delving into the features and prices of several classic models, like the 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood, and the 1999 Chevrolet Corvette. We also throw in a bit of history and speculate about potential mileage of these time-honored beauties. If you're a Buick fan, you won't want to miss our discussion on the 1910 McLaughlin Buick, a coach-built car for Buick that we mention.
Finally, we take a trip through the annals of the automotive industry with our feature, This Week In Automotive History, highlighting key moments like the production of the first Ford bomber B24 Liberator in 1942 and the success of the International Scout all-terrain vehicle in 1960.
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In Wheel Time Podcast | Automotive talk with Don Armstrong, Michael Marrs, and Jeff Dziekan
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