Extreme (Yang)Wang, Catfish Mercedes, and BMW Lies

Hey guys, welcome to Overcrest. I'm Chris and I'm Jake. We've got a pretty solid episode for you guys today. We got some news to talk about. And then I think I'm going to do a little bit of a tail end of the episode with some driver's club exclusive content. I've got like a little mini.

Yeah, it's really fun. You should sign up for the driver's club and then you can participate in such activities. So we're going to talk about some news this week. This is not the most pressing news of the month. You know, I don't do like the most pressing news is just.

Ken, red alert. Nope. Well, special news bulletin. No, none of that is just kind of stuff we care about. So, you know, did you hear about what happened at the National Mall? Tell me a tragic story came out of Washington DC this week on September 17th. A man was killed while unloading one of the most famous cars in the world.

Andy Warhol's BMW M1 Art Car. This happened on the National Mall, which of course is a DC. Yeah, DC. The car there was it was for the Hagerie Foundation. Cars at the Capitol exhibit. Police say the man was trapped under the car coming off the trailer.

Medics try to revive this guy, but he did not make it. It says I'm trying to figure out what happened. I couldn't really find out. It says under the car coming off the trailer. How do you like you got like poked with it? It wasn't like I think in the story. I saw a photo where it looks like it's just like a small enclosed trailer. Yeah, it's not like a super high semi lifting thing. Yeah, so I didn't want to point at footage because I don't want to see it. But I just want to give it a look.

A little background here. Mr. producer, play the Warhol clip. Mrs. producer, play the Warhol clip. In 1979 BMW gave iconic artist Andy Warhol. I'll play it. There we go.

I kind of iconic artist Andy Warhol, a brand new M1 and told him to go nuts and unlike the other art cars of the era, which were carefully wrapped or painted by teams of assistance. Warhol just picked up brushes and attacked the car himself. Only 23 minutes later, it was covered in wild strokes meant to capture motion and speed.

Can you explain to me Warhol like I need I need an explanation of Andy Warhol for anyone who doesn't know Andy Warhol was the face of pop art in the 60s and 70s.

Man, that was a good lead in. I didn't we didn't even know that was happening. You know we saw he took the ordinary soup cans coke bottles. Look at that thing on track, Jake. Yeah, soup cans.

Coke bottles, celebrity headshots and turned them into high culture. He ran a New York studio called the factory that became a high for artist musicians, drag queens and misfits. Warhol wasn't just painting pictures. He was building a whole scene turning consumer goods and pop icons into art while blurring the line between fame and product.

By the late 70s, he was a gay cultural icon, a provocateur, and one of the most famous artists alive, which is exactly why BMW asked him to put his fingerprints literally on that M1.

And then as you saw on the clip, this part blows my mind, the car went racing.

Lomo 1979 and finished sixth overall. So you've got this bizarre overlap of contemporary art history and motorsport history in one car. That is why it is so famous and that is why it's treated like a rolling museum piece.

This is what makes the accident even heavier. Warhol painted it to body speed and danger.

And decades later, it wasn't 24 grueling hours in France, that proof fatal was a loading ramp in Washington, DC. Yeah, so unfortunate.

And the cruel joke of it all is now the provenance of this thing isn't just painted by a gay pop culture icon race to Le Mans, it's painted by Andrew Warhol, gay pop culture icon, inventor of the soup can and Marilyn Monroe's famous painting studio 54's court gesture, patron saint of crystal cocaine and velvet ropes, race to Le Mans car and also flattened a poor guy on the national mall.

Yeah, this car is never been for sale and probably never will be it's owned by BMW. It's in their collection. Yes, yeah, just like all their art cars are and they treat them like crown jewels. It's BMW art car stuff is like I know that Mike burrows and Andrew renter, if you go look this thing up on like the M website, I think the photos there are shot by Andrew and Mike from stance were really yes, they're the ones I think they're the only people to ever photograph this car properly, like on like photograph it.

Really cool. We should have them on to talk about that experience and time. I think Mike might have on a different podcast. Anyway, but if it ever crossed an auction block, the numbers would be absurd. And we can kind of speculate here a little bit. Other conventional Warhol pieces from the same arrow. I mean, conventional like canvas, like hangs on the wall. Sure.

Yeah, it's art is a whole thing. I think the art community that pays money for this stuff is a lot smaller than you would think. And I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot of reach arounds that happen in this in the art world with values and like pumping other people stuff up and you know bidding things. And I think it's it's a little incestuous little environment money laundering.

You know, I'm sure there's some. I don't think that's I mean, I'm going to go in the other one and get a bandaid. I'm bleeding. Just suck it up. Just put it on your jeans. You're not leaving. I know, dude, it's a tiny flood. I hear you can still see me as I grab it.

Other more conventional Warhol pieces from the same era. I have brought 60 to 100 million dollars Jake. And this isn't just canvas on a wall. It's a warhol. You can drive the only art car he painted entirely by hand.

Actually, the only car he ever painted. And the only one that actually went racing at Le Mans conservatively, it would be worth 50 to 100 million dollars, maybe more, but to put that in perspective, it might be more because of what's the most expensive car ever to sell Jake, do you know?

I believe it's the 250 GTO. That was $70 million. The 250 GTO. And in 2022, in 1955, 300 SLR in Hought, coupe sold for 143 million dollars. There's only two was this 2022.

This is the most expensive car ever, auction, it's not the GTO like everyone thinks it is. Yeah, no, and I had never heard of this. So it's like the Gullwing SLS coupe. Yeah, it's, oh, yeah, no, clearly different. I like that front end. Oh, look at the dual spares in the room. Spares, why?

I don't know because you're doing stuff. Don't have any room for. I guess the guy that's intake thing. That's cool. There's two of these cars. And I guess the guy spent years trying to lobby Mercedes to sell one of them.

Because Mercedes, oh, and now it's in some private collection never to be seen. You'll never see it again. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that car never carried the cultural weight of Warhol signature never raised door to door at Le Mans and never committed murder.

And if we're being brutally honest, the recent tragedy will probably only make it more infamous. Yes. First Warhol that killed somebody because in the twisted math of the art world, everybody counts bumps the price. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, it's true. Yeah.

It's true. The things worth more money now that it killed somebody. It probably is. It's like Christine, but in real life.

Maybe the guy was maybe the car was in love with the guy that was the transporter guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the car just had enough or something. Yeah. Yeah. And the guy's like was going to go home to see his wife and the car's like, no, you're not.

Quit making quit making light of this. No, no, no. No, I have to speak speaking, speaking of making light. What's like was that? And he's like, is that his standard hair? Like is that he just a white hair? I don't get that. That's how he just always said white hair. Jake, you don't understand.

I understand. Normie for your, you are too. Normie. Get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm like, I'm fascinated by it. Like I legitimately maybe should go, like, read a biography about Warhol. Cause like, I know him. I know what he did. I know why he's famous, but like, there's an entire white hair. Why is it very fluffy? There's one guy. And I don't remember what what the percentage is, but there's one collector that owns like 50 to 60%.

50 to 60% of all Warhol pieces. And he's kind of the one that runs the ring on auctioning them off. So you have to imagine his entire portfolio is wrapped up on this. So he's going to, of course, going to shield bid things. It's kind of like this. Like I said, it's this reach around incestuous odd. There's only so many people that are paying $50 million for a painting. Right. Right. And they probably also have like sex dungeons and $104 Mercedes and stuff like this.

Sure. Yeah. Okay. Did you, Jake, did you see? Um, and I'm hoping you have a picture of yours that, and I want you to, I know you, you're going to be ready to interrupt me as soon as I start talking about this. So bring it up after the article. Okay. Okay. Um, do you remember the $125,000 coin auction?

Jake. Oh, fuck.

Oh, so that was Chris and not me, apparently, because I still see jazz. No idea. That was you. I think no idea what happened there. But, okay, that was, that was me. All right. Jake. All right. I'm not going to remember the, do you remember the $125,000 coin auction? Do you remember this? Yes. I know exactly what you mean. Yes.

Cars and bids had a result that makes no sense on paper. No, a 2014 Porsche Cayenne. This is not a turbo. No, this is not a GTS. No, this is a TORIC.

Well, yes, it's the same. It's, it's just, it has a model VR6 that had the manual with it. And they weren't, they're not that rare. It's not like one of one. No, they're not that rare. Like I was looking at an almost bought one of these.

Yes. Last year, it's sold for 15 grand sold for 100 and 25,000 dollars. This thing sold for. Yes. That is more than double the original sticker price. It's also about seven times higher on average than what these things usually bring. Here's, here's proof of a 2020 2012. This is all within this year. So this is this year's auction. I wouldn't dug these up 2012 manual cash on the same site. Cars and bids 18,000.

2013 GTS 4.8 liter of V8. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and a 550 horsepower turbo S top dot. This is the big boy. Yeah. That is that what you had. I had the turbo, not the turbo S. Oh, poverty.

Well, they've made a turbo S my year in a year, $28,000. In modern times, 2019 Cayenne turbo is $51,000.

And this V6, like I said, it's a Toreg. It's a fucking Toreg retrimmed, which is fine. It's, it's fine. It's, it's totally fine. Just hammered for more than twice that. 125,000.

It's funny. I was literally looking and shopping like I still kind of want a manual Cayenne. And so I was looking around as this was live. And I was like, what?

So I was watching this live. And I was like, what? Well, there went my hopes of every winning one. I guess for some bizarre reason. This is such an outlier. The comments section itself turned into a madhouse. It was nearly 800 people tried to explain the unexplainable eight, almost 800 comments. Was it money laundering?

Was it two bidders playing chicken with their wallets? Or is it just a fever dream of an auction platform that exists to make weird results happen?

Maybe it's someone that just really liked green. I just, I can't. It doesn't make any sense. Here's the thing. Everybody's like, there's no way this auction goes through.

No, the guys, it was just fucking around and he's not going to pay like two people just screwing around. Right. Right.

That too.

They paid.

Hey, everyone, following up from Friday's auction, the Cayenne has been paid for and full by the winning better. Stay tuned for my next list thing on cars and beds.

A 2015 Lexus L.S.

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Who cares? Who cares?

Wow.

So it was legit. It was real.

How it got that?

Is it? I don't know.

There's something wrong there.

It's $100,000 more than it should have cost.

Yes, but it was more than just the one guy that like bid himself up or something.

You know what I mean? It takes more than one person to bid a car up.

Yes.

Unless, unless, of course, you're the seller.

And then you're the same person bidding the car up.

Yeah, but like, then it'd be free.

Yeah, you don't feel like even, yeah.

Like you have to go like that.

You have to want.

I don't want to make no sense either.

It's absurd.

Yeah. It is ridiculous.

It is absurd.

I wanted to think it was, do you think it was two buddies?

Like two super wealthy rich guys who were like,

Hi, and then money's relative, dude.

Like if you have hundreds of millions of dollars and you're some rich,

you and your buddy also have hundreds of millions of dollars.

And and you know that your buddy wants this.

So you create a fake account to out bid him and then because the guy

and then you show up at his house trader, right?

Did the guy have any history on the site?

I don't know.

I didn't look.

I didn't look that deep.

But imagine like if you were both ultra rich and it was you and me,

and you really wanted it and I did on it and I want it.

And then I show up at your house for dinner and your car that you always bought

and it cost me $125,000 to do it.

Yeah, but it'd be worth it.

I'd in the world, but I don't know the life

of the life of the rich.

It just it doesn't make sense.

All right.

Give me a couple ads, Jake.

Give me a couple ads.

What do you got?

Couple of them.

Okay.

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They've had up bigger prices on the Cayenne catalog, right?

To reflect that, but only for the base model with the manual transmission.

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Yes.

OK, so Andy Warhol was not about what's with the hair.

Chris, he had childhood illnesses, including a pigment disorder severe acne

that made him appear similar to when I'll buy it along with baldness laid,

led him to wear wigs while his pale skin and unique silver weight became

iconic features.

They stand from these early health issues.

OK, so it's a wild and cultivating his public image.

Right.

So he's bald.

Got it.

Yes.

OK, this is a, this is an, I was right after all.

This is which I love because you wouldn't put in the story.

Oh, Jake was right after all.

Well, of course, that was you trapped in the film room floor.

You can do that.

Yeah, when you, you can be right when you do, when you make this.

BMW just confirmed what they've been, what I have been saying for years.

China is the reason their design language went off the rails.

Chris, you weren't right about this.

Everyone was right about this.

Oh, I was an early adapter on this one.

No, no, no, I was the one that told you this.

I was like, you know, why the grills?

Yes, it's because the Chinese market started at the crystal to this,

to the different shade between, yeah, the different brands, like external.

I was telling you this whole thing.

This is me.

I said this.

I absolutely did.

I said that this is what you get when an entire culture of people who only got,

recently got the right to drive.

I have no generational car culture shaped.

Correct.

I suddenly have my luxury cars.

This is me.

Don't steal my glory.

But it is because like the big grills and stuff.

That's simply because they don't have the historical context and knowledge of like,

oh, this is a Ford.

This is a BMW.

This is no generational car culture.

The same.

Right.

And so they really needed to just like make it hyperbolic, ridiculous, crazy.

No subtlety and no restraint to anything.

That's a bigger, better flashers, flashers, better.

Yes, that's ridiculous.

BMW followed.

I can't claim this is you being right.

Because it's 100% pretty sure I said it before you go on that.

Everyone go on the discord and tell Jakey's wrong.

Just what?

You're okay post the episode.

Oh, I please do because this I.

Yeah.

I want to continue here.

Um, yeah, this is, this is.

So this is you confirming it.

Yeah, it's a second.

Uh, at the month of the new I X three BMW design chief Adrian van Huidonk was

asked if the grills had gotten too radical.

He said, quote, huh?

No, because it depends on where you are in the world.

In certain areas in the world like China, it is good.

People are still asking for big girls.

So this is sort of the tricky situation that you're in as a global brand.

Then make two different grills.

Make a Chinese market and a rest world cost too much.

That's the solution.

I cost too much money.

You can't just it's one plastic part.

Let's make everything behind it.

Still the same and make them just like snap in.

Have you seen people that shrink them down and Photoshop?

Yeah, yeah, they do look ridiculous though.

That is just like so much like white space or panel.

It's it's not too big.

Yes, not not at all.

Well anyway, I was I was proof right.

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I like wildflowers though, they're pretty wildflowers.

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Where are we now?

Mercedes AMG is saying their next electric performance car is going to be so far ahead.

Of the game, Jake.

So far ahead of the game, which is hilarious because being ahead of the game all the time is part of the problem.

Every company wants to sell you the future when people actually want is a car that feels alive right now.

Nobody ever fell off the car because it was futuristic.

They fell love because either heart move.

Go ahead, Jake.

Can we also pull up like a split screen of a catfish fish?

Yes.

Yeah.

Because that is what that car is right now.

Oh my God.

Let's be honest, Mercedes doesn't exactly have a stellar record.

The EQ stuff, the EQS EQE EQC appliances.

Rolling iPads with three-ported stars, look at the front.

There it is.

Oh my God.

That is it.

Oh my God.

That was the thing to say.

And then go and try and find the EQC stuff on the road.

It's like looking for a unicorn because nobody bought them.

Meanwhile, Tesla has been eating their lunch and Porsche figured out somewhat how to make the take on feel while kind of like a Porsche.

So now AMG is promising this will be different.

Built on the new AMG.EA platform.

They're calling it the best electric V8.

EA, electronic cards, which means what?

A car with fake gear shifts are officially wise.

Say that last thing again.

This is the best electric V8.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

They don't want to build real V8.

And also, why does the mouth laid up?

I don't know.

Did you see that?

Why does the mouth know?

It's so bad.

Select the best electronic V8.

That's literally what they said.

What is the rear end looks great?

Oh, never mind.

Go back.

Is there no rear like this?

There's no rear window.

No, go to the go three two more photos.

Keep going one more.

This is obviously a concept.

So rear window glass legally, that's not going to work.

That must be this is the designer.

That's the guy catfish kind of sewer.

All right.

Nokia entire Jake.

I'm just baffled by this thing.

You know, if, okay, here's how I told you you can make an electronic V8.

Like you can do that by using actually like a piston configuration.

And then it's just electromagnets that will push the piston down.

You know what I mean?

I talked about this because you'd have the way like the same similar sound profile

and it actually be mechanical.

And then you can use gear shifts and be limited by inertia mechanics.

It wouldn't be as efficient.

But at least you'd be like, no, it's electric,

but it does actually have a V8, a revolutionary new power plant that uses pistons and sound.

I wonder what kind of energy would be needed to generate an electrical magnet

that would repulse the top of the piston or whatever.

It's repulse the rod at such an incredible force.

Like what kind of energy would be?

How many jewels of energy would be required?

What an electric motor is.

It's just magnets pulling the assembly in a circle as opposed to your.

You're you're you're you're changing it from a rotational movement into a like a lateral movement.

Yeah, correct.

I wonder what I think I'm interested.

That sounds interesting.

Wouldn't that be cool?

Let's do that instead.

It's cool only because you're trying to mimic like an archaic design in that instance.

Like it doesn't work.

But what this is all what they're trying to do.

If they're calling an electric V8 at least do this.

So it's something cool and different and actually is an electric V8.

Tell me about no key entire Jake.

They're not stupid.

They don't have gimmicks.

They actually have amazing tires.

You know what time it is, Jake?

What time is it?

It's winter tires.

It's time to go get your winter tires.

Yeah, don't wait.

Hey, the marketing is working on calling them winter tires instead of snow tires now.

You notice that?

It used to be just right to get some snow tires.

Now we're going to winter tires because they're for the whole season.

Not just when it's snowing.

Yeah, it's below 50 degrees.

If you're below 50 degrees or should have winter tires correct.

Yeah, the compounds are different.

It's all different.

And if you haven't ever driven on a dedicated winter tire, it is mind blowing.

I feel like that is the biggest thing if people don't realize and have never done

it like, oh, it does make it difficult.

Well, that's because tires aren't necessarily fun to buy.

No, you know, like what if you had one pair of shoes to wear and they were like

your favorite shoes, but you always had to get new soles for them?

You wouldn't ever look forward to getting new rubber on the bottom of your shoe.

You just wouldn't.

You'd be like, I mean, you get you're nice boots.

You ever get them redone on the bottom?

We're like, repealed or resold.

Yeah, I have.

It's not fun.

You're like not looking forward to that.

It's tires are not necessarily romantic part of the car, but it's very important.

And gosh, is it awesome in the snow?

And if you have no Keynes new surpass A so one as well, if you're not in the

snow belt or winter belt, I guess winter belt, that doesn't work.

That content.

I don't think that regardless.

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So this is a performance tire

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It's the best of the best from that perspective.

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All right.

Did you know that there's a new fastest ever production car?

No.

I can't read this.

China's BYD just built the fastest production car in the world.

I see this thing.

I don't think I saw this thing.

It's not but gotty.

Not going to say not rhyme act BYD.

This thing is called get ready for it.

Oh, no.

The gang Wang you nine extreme.

No, it's not.

Oh, my God, it is.

What?

You know, it just went, it just went.

Three hundred and eight miles an hour.

The who cares?

You're going to be embarrassed to drive it with the thing on the back.

It says Yang Wang.

The fastest Wang transporter in the world is by BYD.

Three hundred and eight point four miles power at the Pappenburg test track in Germany.

Don't they have any fast tracks in China?

Build your own track, gang Wang.

For perspective, the previous record holder was the Sharon super sport.

Three hundred plus, which did it's got that quad turbo eight leader did three

or four.

That car made fifteen hundred horsepower and weighed four thousand pounds.

Cost three hundred and a million dollars.

Else about the Yang Wang.

We're going to get there.

Yang we beat it by three point six.

And every tick is like coming Mount Everest when you're here.

You know, you're above these speeds.

It's higher than actual.

Yeah, it's getting really, really hard.

The stats are absurd.

It has two thousand nine hundred and seventy eight horsepower.

So you're telling me, you know what I'm about to say?

It took twice as much horsepower for this thing to go three miles, three and a half miles per hour faster.

I mean,

it's electric.

I don't know.

It's well, it weighs five thousand four hundred pounds.

I was going to say there's more factors that play.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, that's that's a she's a hefty boy, which I'm surprised with the tires that because it's one thing

for the tires to go that fast.

It's another thing to hold that much weight and go that fast.

Yes.

Yeah, absolutely.

So what do you think this thing costs?

I don't care.

I don't know.

Here's a kicker.

They're only building 30 of these.

The regular U9, which is not the extreme one is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

This extreme Wang you're looking at is hypercar money easily into the millions.

They say, okay.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's.

I can't believe that Yang Wang did it with some batteries, four motors and a car that weighs more than a Chevy Tahoe.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah.

I mean, you got to needed 16 cylinders, four turbos and 20 years of W16 refinement.

It's probably a better vehicle all around.

I would say that a Yang Wang.

I don't think that's a threat to someone.

Why do these companies and it's everything?

Whether I get served an ad for a device or lingerie or wherever comes in my inbox,

it's always as weird English, right?

Don't all of these companies need to have an American dude that just reads the copy before us.

No, no, you cannot call it that guy's in America Wang means penis.

What?

Just tell him.

Just tell him the Wang means penis.

Why does it have to be called Yang Wang?

It sounds.

It sounds like something you're doing to yourself.

You Yang, you're Wang, Jake.

And it's the extreme way.

It's the extreme what Yang Wang.

Yeah, it's pretty extreme.

All right, BMW just came out swinging at Apple CarPlay and I do not believe this story for a minute,

but I have an alternative point to make.

Okay.

And I think you'll know what it is as soon as I read the quote.

They're calling it a myth that everyone uses CarPlay.

Oh, yeah.

BMW's head of UI and UX says their data shows most people end up using BMW's built in nav instead of Apple Maps.

Lie.

They've collected info from over maybe it's because they're checking Apple Maps and not Google Maps.

Well, Orra is going to say they can't figure out how the interface even works.

So they just look at it on their phone is most likely.

That's much probably there's probably a couple of us.

They've collected it.

Well, it's wireless car play now.

You pair your phone once you get any turn the car on.

It all comes on.

It's not hard.

They've collected info from 10 million vehicles in the takeaways.

People leave CarPlay on bonus time to drive anywhere.

They're punching in addresses through I drive.

No, they're not.

No way.

No, I do not believe you.

Your sample size was taken of those over 70 that's still other drivers license and

BMW is leading into this.

Moving their new I drive X and panorama display away from supporting CarPlay and Android Auto all together.

They even flat out said they don't plan to support Apple's next gen CarPlay Ultra.

Cool.

Good luck.

I I I'm wondering what the licensing fee is to run this operating system on the car.

I think yeah.

Mr. producer looked that up.

See if there's anyone that knows the licensing fee to have because you're just supporting it.

You're supporting CarPlay.

You don't know if you need a light.

To feed for that because you can fight.

I don't know.

Here's the part nobody's talking about.

And this is a quote, quote.

People say they're driving all around and using CarPlay for navigation.

I can tell you it's not true.

We can see what our customers are doing.

What controls they're using and what kind of driving conditions are using them.

Jake.

This should make your skin.

What's it say?

There is no licensing for Apple for using from Apple for using CarPlay.

Yeah.

I have no idea.

I do not pay a royalty.

Right.

The fact that oh, yeah.

Well, we have all the data when you exactly when you're using it and where and how and when you're driving

and how you're driving, we can see what our customers are doing.

Not just what app you pick, but how you drive, what apps you're using, what buttons you touch.

That's when and under what conditions.

That's crazy because not just BMW.

We've been through this before.

Right.

Every car maker with a screen is watching you every press of the knob, every twitch of the wheel.

You turn up the volume knob.

You go to the grocery store.

What music you're listening when you go to the grocery store is log stored and sold under the guys

of user experience and it is not.

It is commercial surveillance.

You hand over 60, 80 grand in return.

You're not getting a car.

You're getting a tracking device that works for you just like your phone is a

this, this thing that you pay $1,500 for is a device for which social media companies can turn you into a product.

You are paying.

It is the same thing and your car is that way to you're not the customer.

You are the product.

You're paying $80,000 so that BMW can decide to take away car play because they have sketched out 10 million people aren't using it.

And then they're selling it to the insurance companies.

We've already been through this before.

Stop buying this shit.

I know what you're going to do.

What are you going to do?

I paid I paid $13,000 for a 2008 Mercedes W211 wagon.

It has 58,000 miles like most people like the idea of a new car with a warranty.

It's got the latest shut up.

This was $13,000.

Yes, nobody's nobody's buying a $60,000 car cash.

People aren't doing it.

They're getting a loan.

They're financing it and they're paying 60.

They're paying $60,000 for a car and then they're paying $15,000 in interest so they can have a warranty when they could buy a $13,000 car.

They have $50,000 or $60,000 left over to pay for the repairs for the rest of your fucking life.

But people don't do that.

They're stupid.

You still have to go to the dealer and get something fixed.

You still have to go.

Yeah.

It's not like a new car doesn't break.

I just agree with that.

This is a mindset.

That is the mindset.

People are dumb.

Yeah.

I, yeah, but that is, I don't know.

I'm my voice is back, Jake.

Yeah, apparently my voice is apparently Volkswagen might be finally giving the golf R the backbone.

It's been missing.

Word is for the 25th anniversary of the golf R6.

I don't you wish, buddy, but this is almost as good.

It's gone.

It's getting.

I don't care.

It's dead.

It's getting always turbocharged 2.5 liter five cylinder.

Oh, good.

Oh, yeah, you're kind of into that, aren't you?

The same engine that makes the RS3 such a riot.

That means 394 horsepower, 350 pound feet.

Does it come with a manual?

I don't think so.

Does it come with a manual?

Mr's producer asks if this thing is going to be available with a manual.

It won't because Audi doesn't make a transmission that bolts up to it.

It still has a manual.

Yeah.

So it's stupid.

I don't care.

You don't care.

Great.

You have an S3 that's a hatchback.

Yay.

Here, let me play this clip while she looks this up.

This is an actual clip of that car and the way it sounds.

Same exact thing.

Same thing, this is it.

Yes.

Yeah, that's pretty good, isn't it?

It would be that would be, but nope.

Okay.

So that's not the RS3 engine, but that's okay.

No, we'll not have it.

Of course not yet.

No, gosh, that's so lame.

Freaking hate it dickheads stupidness.

Right now, the hottest Golf R you can buy is the 333, which is just the E888 4 cylinder cranked up

to 320 horses.

Quick, sure, tons of turbo lag, man.

God, it's got so much trouble like, but it doesn't light you up.

Obviously drop the RS3's 5 pot and you're talking 3.8 to 16 set of 4.6.

RS3, no, we're going lap times.

What cares?

Oh, man.

Oh, yeah, dude.

It might not suck so sure, whatever.

You know, I'm, I'm, you know, I go back and forth on this for like for a daily driver.

Do I need a manual?

And then I'm, and then I remember that I'm thinking to myself right now.

How much I, I'm thinking about selling my 124.

So that I can get a manual 190 E because I just want to want to manual transmission.

I like the bigger car.

It's quiet. It's nice. It's reliable. It's totally rust-free.

And I'm just like, you know, I kind of just I'd like to have a 190 because you know

what else is I have the swap sitting over there.

I've got the 190 E manual swap.

I got the drive shaft.

Good old friend Bjorn.

I got the drive shaft transmission pedal box, everything to do a manual swap.

So here's what I've been thinking about doing.

They have the 190 E 16 valve, the one with the wing on the back.

It's got the cause worth engine in it, the four cylinder 16 valve.

They made automatic versions of that.

And they're much cheaper than the manual.

I've got the swap.

So I should buy one of those and then do the swap and then I can have a,

the problem is this is not the dog leg.

The 16 valve had the dog leg, but you know, whatever who gives a shit right.

The dog leg was a crappy transmission anyway.

I'm driving it.

Oh man.

Why don't you tell me about the driver's club, Jake?

Yeah, driver's club for his little $5 a month.

Oh, wow.

Like the graphics.

Mr. producer is honest.

My gosh.

What a lady.

You can somebody should marry her.

Oh boy.

Yes.

And get awesome content.

You can stop being a freeloader.

You can be on the.

You don't get awesome content if the marry her just to be clear with what you're saying.

This is driver's club.

Oh, yeah.

That's a distinction right.

I only get awesome content.

And you'll get to hear whatever Chris is about to express.

Yes, yes, I've got a nice little.

I've got a nice little thing here.

Yes, $5, $10, $25 a month, you can support to show.

Guys, $5 a month, $5 a month, quit being a cheap skate.

It's $5.

Everybody's got a million subscriptions to things.

This is just a drop in the bucket and you get to support your favorite podcast.

All right.

With that, we'll see you guys next week.

See all your freeloaders later.

Dying so I'll be hot back on in one minute.

All right, driver's club members is just you and me.

Sitting here next to the fireplace with a little old story.

Jake's internet's dead.

So you just you just got me and maybe Mrs.

producer if I say something really dumb, she'll tell me I'm wrong.

He was born in 1809 in Philadelphia.

A boy among the soot and smells of a young American city.

Cole smoke from the furnaces, the salty tang of horse sweat.

The reek and smell of oil lamps from whale blubber that burned late into the night.

His family were Dutch immigrants and like many immigrants,

they worked with their hands.

They made land.

Extreme (Yang)Wang, Catfish Mercedes, and BMW Lies

Bmw M1

Pontiac GTO

Ferrari 250 GTO

Porsche Cayenne

Chevrolet Tahoe

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