The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is a law that made changes to taxes, including a benefit for people buying cars. It lets you deduct some of the interest you pay on car loans if the car is made in America, which can save you money.
Negative equity means you owe more money on your car loan than what your car is currently worth. This can happen if the car loses value quickly or if you haven't paid down much of the loan yet.
A trade-in vehicle is a car you give to a dealership when buying a new car. The dealership gives you money for your old car, which helps lower the price of the new one.
Principal interest is the total amount you owe on a loan, which includes the original money you borrowed and the extra money you pay as a fee for borrowing it. It's important to know how much you are really paying for your car.
A service contract is like an insurance policy for your car that pays for repairs after the original warranty runs out. It helps you avoid big repair bills if something goes wrong with your car.
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February 20th, 2026,
I'm Kellan Walker in Las Vegas.
Today on the show,
the Supreme Court strikes down
many of President Trump's tariffs.
Meanwhile, tariff driven price hikes
are already hitting dealer lots.
And VW workers in Chattanooga
ratify their first UAW contract in a landslide.
Plus Automotive News reporter,
John Hutter explains why the IRS
is excluding negative equity
from the new auto loan interest deduction.
The IRS is already kind of picking and choosing
if they're saying, well, a service contract
counts as part of a car loan,
but negative equity doesn't.
Well, it's kind of like, well, what's the distinction there?
Why wouldn't you just simplify it?
Let's run through all the news you need to know
to keep up in the auto industry.
The US Supreme Court has struck down
many of President Trump's tariffs,
ruling they were issued illegally
under the 1977 Emergency Powers Law.
The six to three decision affects reciprocal tariffs
and duties on Canadian, Mexican, and Chinese goods.
But tariffs on vehicles, auto parts, steel,
aluminum, and copper are still in place.
The auto industry paid about $8.6 billion
through October 2025 in duties
that are now deemed unconstitutional.
That's according to PWC.
The court didn't say whether refunds are owed
or how they'd be distributed.
We'll hear more on this story in a minute
with our own John Irwin.
Despite that ruling,
Trump's tariffs are already hitting dealer lots hard.
New data from Catalyst IQ shows vehicles assembled
in Canada have seen the steepest price hikes.
Sticker prices jumped nearly $4,000
or almost 10% since October.
Japanese built vehicles rose about $3,300
while German built models increased over $2,800.
Vehicles from Mexico were up more than $1,500.
Rick Wainshell, Vice President of Analytics at Catalyst IQ
says automakers used model year changeovers
to quietly raise prices.
About $1,200 more aggressively than last year.
Toyota's Andrew Gilliland warned in January
that further increases are coming,
saying manufacturers can't hold out much longer
from passing tariff costs to consumers.
And Volkswagen workers in Chattanooga
have ratified their first contract with the UAW
in a landslide vote.
UAW President Sean Fane says 96% of workers
approve the four-year pact,
which takes effect February 23rd.
The deal delivers a 20% wage increase over five years,
a $4,000 ratification bonus,
and annual bonuses of $2,500.
It's a major victory for the union
in its decades-long push to organize
foreign-owned plants in the South
and caps nearly two years
since workers first voted to join.
And those are today's headlines.
You could read more about all those stories
and follow along with the latest news at AutoNews.com.
Now let's dig deeper into that Supreme Court decision.
Joining me is John Irwin,
who's been covering the story for us at Automotive News.
John, welcome back to Daily Drive.
Thanks for having me.
So John, the Supreme Court didn't spell out
how these refunds would work for these tariffs
that have now been deemed unconstitutional.
What are you hearing about what happens next
for automakers and suppliers
who have already paid billions in these duties?
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
I think a lot of people were expecting the Supreme Court
to at least mention a little bit
about how the refund process might work
or at least direct to the federal government
to say that they should refund businesses
that have paid these tariffs.
There was no mention of it.
How that process works is really up in the area.
And I've talked with a few trade experts
who have basically said,
we're just waiting to see
how the Trump administration might approach this,
whether they could voluntarily,
if they want to set up a refund program,
whether they choose to do that or not,
is still up in the air as of taping.
But no matter what happens,
just given the scale of these tariffs,
it's going to be a messy process.
I think that's pretty much accepted across the board.
That was something that the lawyers advocating
for the businesses who brought this lawsuit
against the Trump administration even acknowledged.
Brett Kavanaugh and his dissent noted that as well,
that this is gonna be,
the refund process will be messy no matter what,
just given the scale.
We're talking billions and billions of dollars
across industries, across sectors.
There are goods being shipped right now
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean
or that are in port right now.
Where the whole idea was that they were gonna implement it.
You don't have to pay the tariff on those goods.
Now they might not have to,
do they have to immediately?
There's all sorts of questions about how this will work,
how quickly it'll happen.
I think most people are expecting, no matter what,
there will be more lawsuits.
So no matter what, it's gonna be a messy,
probably lengthy process.
That said, I know a lot of people in the auto industry,
especially suppliers, I think are generally speaking,
are the ones who have paid these tariffs
more than maybe automakers who are more susceptible
to the auto tariff, which is still in effect.
A lot of these suppliers are kind of expecting that,
maybe eventually they will get that refund,
but what that looks like,
how they have to work with their automakers
who have reimbursed them for their tariff costs.
I mean, it's a very messy, convoluted process.
It's gonna take weeks, months, maybe years to figure out.
Now, the ruling leaves vehicle
and auto parts tariffs in place
since they were issued under different legal authorities,
does this decision give companies any new legal footing
to challenge those remaining tariffs,
or are we looking at a completely separate fight there?
I think generally speaking, we're looking at a separate fight.
And I've talked to a couple of trade experts today
who note that some people would argue
that maybe some of the ways that some of these other tariffs,
like section 232 tariffs on steel, aluminum,
the vehicles, auto parts,
there are some who might argue
that the way they've been implemented,
sort of pushing the boundaries of what the law says
the president can do, but it's a little less cut and dry,
maybe than a lot of legal experts viewed
this particular case when it came to reciprocal tariffs.
Section 232 authority, which is used for vehicles
and auto parts, has been previously used
by other administrations, and they followed,
it's been in place since 1962.
There's a whole process where there has to be an investigation
done by the Commerce Department
on a national security ground.
And it's a very, it's a somewhat lengthy process
and a little bit more well-established,
whereas the Trump administration
was the first one to ever use this 1974 law,
which was under question today,
to use it for tariffs as opposed to,
in the past, other presidents have used that law
to implement sanctions or embargoes on other countries.
So, whether it gives some new footing,
I guess, remains to be seen.
That said, given, we expect the Trump administration
to pursue new tariffs to kind of make up
for the lost tariff revenue that they're seeing today.
A lot of those new tariffs though,
they're a little more limited in scope.
Maybe they can issue something right away,
but then they need Congress to extend it
or there needs to be an investigation that has to be done.
I think a lot of suppliers especially,
they've been during the tariff saga
over the past several months,
they've been sort of worried that, okay,
there's an announcement about a new tariff
and then it goes in effect a few days later.
That, at least for now,
maybe seems like that threat is kind of dissipated.
There might be new tariffs,
but they might be a little more limited in scope
or there'll be more time needed to have to implement them,
which gives those businesses more time to adapt.
So that's sort of where we're standing right now.
We'll see what the White House does.
We'll see how they respond,
what they might implement instead.
But yeah, there's a lot going on
and I'm sure suppliers, automakers are paying
very close attention to where things go from here.
All right, John Irwin, thank you so much for joining me.
Thanks so much.
Coming up, a deeper dive into the IRS decision
on negative equity and the new auto loan interest deduction.
That's next on Daily Drive.
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The IRS says consumers can deduct interest
on service contracts financed
with their auto loan this tax season,
but not on negative equity rolled into the loan.
That can be a problem when nearly 30%
of fourth quarter trade-ins had negative equity.
Automotive News Retail FNI reporter, John Hutter,
talked with our own Jake Nier about it.
Jake reached him at his home office
near Grand Rapids, Michigan.
John Hutter, welcome back to Daily Drive.
Hey, great to be here.
So this is a really interesting decision here by the IRS,
but before we dive into that,
remind us how this new auto loan interest deduction
actually works.
I mean, who's qualified?
What's the potential benefit for consumers
buying a new vehicle?
Sort of the basics here.
Basically, last year, Congress passed
and President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act,
which had a lot of tax changes.
And one of them that they added was a,
you could deduct auto loan interest
on American-made vehicles.
And you could do it
even if you were taking the standard deduction,
which I mean, basically every American,
I mean, it's like 90% of American taxpayers do that.
So anyway, so you can deduct starting with this tax season
because they made it retroactive
for any car you bought in 2025.
You can deduct up to $10,000 each year
on any interest you paid for a vehicle.
It has to have final assembly in America,
and then it has to be used personal use.
And if you make more than 100 grand,
or if you're a household with more than 200 grand,
it starts tapering off how much you can actually deduct.
But so, yeah, and it'll run through the 2028 tax year,
so unless Congress renews it.
So the IRS says that this tax season,
you can deduct interest on service contracts,
but not on negative equity rolled into the loan.
Why is that distinction such a big deal
for dealers and the industry?
Yeah, and it's, I mean, the IRS was kind of in a tough spot
because they're trying to do actual formal regulations
on all this stuff, but like they also,
since the bill was passed in the summer,
and it was retroactive,
they kind of had to come up with something
for this tax season.
So anyway, they've said that, yeah,
you'll be able to deduct service contracts, sales tax,
any of the interest that you're paying
on that part of the loan,
but you can't do negative equity.
And what's tough about that is that there's,
a lot of people do have negative equity rolled
into their car loan, especially if you bought,
maybe in the last couple of years,
when prices were kind of elevated
because of the lack of inventory,
you might still owe more on the trade-in vehicle
than your car is worth, than that car is actually worth.
So you're rolling into the new loan.
Under this, yeah, you couldn't deduct it,
which is going to kind of raise,
I would imagine some issues for both lenders and consumers
because you've got to figure out how much
of your interest actually went to that negative equity
versus the other parts of the loan.
So that's going to be kind of a complicated thing
I would imagine for the, because my understanding,
and my car loan didn't have negative equity on it,
so I can't say this for sure,
but my understanding is you just get your car,
you make your car payment,
and it says your, I would imagine your principal interest,
but it doesn't say what the interest is actually,
it's not itemized like that.
So somebody's going to have to figure out how it's,
the good news for dealers is the service contract
being deductible is interest is huge
because that too is usually financed as part of a loan.
It's something that a lot of dealers sell
on a lot of vehicles.
And so that's a big, you know,
that's a big perk for consumers and dealers.
Good job getting that flex in there, John.
Yeah, all right.
Well, you know, so as we've talked about NADA and AFSA
are pushing back pretty hard on this
as the IRS looks at adopting formal rules as well.
What is their core argument as sort of the main trade groups
here for why negative equity interest should be deductible?
Right, and it kind of comes back to,
and that's the thing.
I mean, everybody's kind of out of luck on this
as far as I know for this year,
but the actual rules is still in place.
So for future years, it might well change
and that's where AFSA and NADA are trying to make an impact.
And really the issue is the complexity,
you know, there's the complexity factor
that somebody's gonna have to split this stuff out of the loan.
AFSA has said, well, look, we don't want you to do this,
but if you're gonna make us do it,
at least let us do it proportionally,
where, you know, we can just say,
okay, 10% of it is negative equity or whatever.
But yeah, they're hoping that it doesn't happen.
And one of the, just because of that issue
and their argument, especially AFSA's,
is well, the bill that enacted this thing
just says any interest on the car loan.
And so, you know, and since they're already,
the IRS is already kind of picking and choosing
if they're saying, well, a service contract
counts as part of a car loan, you know,
but negative equity doesn't.
Well, it's kind of like, well, what's the distinction there?
Why wouldn't you just simplify it
and just make everything, you know,
any interest with the car loan is subjective.
So that's kind of where they're both going with it right now.
The language, yeah, I mean, to me,
it does seem a little weird to pick and choose like that,
that if you're gonna have this one thing
that isn't related to the actual metal of the vehicle
being sold bundled into it,
then, you know, why wouldn't anything else
tied into the deal also count?
So, I mean, I think there's an argument,
there's certainly an argument there
and from the convenience factor
and not having to, you know, upset how consumers,
you know, to make it easier for consumers as well,
because if the lenders don't really tease it out,
the consumer will probably have to do the math themselves.
And that's, you know, I mean,
I read about finance for a living
and I couldn't do it myself without, you know,
like the finance calculators.
Sure.
So I am curious, John, you know,
when it comes to the role of the dealerships in this,
the FNI office and so forth,
what kind of role are they playing in this process?
I mean, do you get the sense that this is a headache
for them in terms of like trying to walk
their customers through what's, you know,
available to them, what they can do,
and if things change, you know,
does that cause even more headaches in some ways?
Right, and I haven't really dug as much into that one
because the bigger issue for dealers,
I would imagine this tax season is just
because customers are probably gonna have
a lot bigger refunds than usual, which is a benefit.
So I don't really dug into how many of them
are having to coach consumers on, you know,
filling out their tax returns yet on this thing.
But yeah, but I would imagine there is, you know,
certainly an education role for the dealership,
you know, in terms of kind,
if the customer does have questions,
you're gonna need to be prepared for that.
So that means, you know, that, I guess,
you know, that does, I guess, complicate life
for a dealership, you just need to be, you know, up to it.
Also, it's kind of, I guess to some degree,
it's kind of to your interest
because if you've got an eligible vehicle on the lot
and you're, you know, you're trying to sell it to a consumer
and you can say, well, look,
you can deduct the interest on this one, you know.
So there's a benefit as well.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I guess on that kind of line of thinking,
beyond negative equity,
what is, what's one thing that dealers need to know
about this deduction as they're working with consumers
this tax season going forward?
You know, what is maybe the one nugget
that they should take away from this?
You've got to make your life harder.
I would say there's two actually.
One is just knowing what vehicles are eligible
in which I think the IRS has issued guidance
where there's a, one of the stickers on the vehicle,
you know, the mandatory stickers has,
if the location it was built at.
And that's all, that's all that matters
is that really the final assembly.
So that should be pretty easy to figure out.
Just if it was built in the US, you're good to go.
You don't have to worry about,
it's not like the tariff thing where you gotta worry about
where maybe certain parts came from or something like that.
It's just if they built the thing here, you know,
they put it all together here, we're good.
The other thing I think that people,
dealers are gonna want to pay attention to
is just who's eligible.
It's pretty loose.
Like you can buy it for a family,
a family member using the vehicle is okay,
like your kid or something like that.
And you're even allowed a little bit of usage.
Let's say you have a side hustle as a ride share driver
or, you know, or a door dash or something like that.
As long as I think it's 51% is personal use,
you're okay to count the vehicle.
They're not gonna be a stickler on,
well, this is a commercial vehicle
because you're using it for a job, you know,
20% of your life or something like that.
So those are, I think those are gonna be the two things
to really hone in on with consumers
and you can kind of reassure them
or you can say, well, look, no, you're, you know,
you're gonna be an Uber driver in this thing
for 80% of your time, you can't deduct the interest.
So, you know, things like that.
So finally, John, the IRS has a hearing scheduled
for Tuesday of next week on this.
I'm curious what you're watching for
and do you think they could actually change course
on this negative equity issue?
You know, I think so just because it's,
oh, well, I'm gonna be watching to obviously hear,
AFSA is speaking, I don't think NADA is,
but AFSA, which represents all the auto lenders
certainly is gonna be, is one of the guests scheduled.
So I'm gonna be watching, you know,
watching for their argument.
Yeah, I think they could reverse course.
I think there's just a, you know, if you're trying to,
you know, if the Trump administration is serious
about kind of getting rid of bureaucracy
and making things more consumer friendly, you know,
just really simplifying the rules to just, okay,
is the car American made and used personally?
You know, does it meet the criteria in the law?
All right, well, look, just any of the interest
tied to the loan is all right.
You know, so I think there could,
the one thing that I think could maybe deter them
from doing that is, well, let's say it's negative equity
on a car that isn't American made, you know,
which I mean, good luck trying to trace that on,
you know, a trade in used vehicle.
But I mean, that could be a sticking point.
There's also kind of one of those where you don't want
to just let any old thing bundled into the loan.
Like, hey, we're gonna, you know, also, you know,
I don't know, like finance, like I said,
I believe there isn't, there's something
that they're looking at on the, on like,
if you're trying to buy like a big horse trailer
and attach it to the car or something like that
and finance that, there might be some,
I can't remember if there's a language
around what you can and can't do there.
You know, so, so that'd be the counter argument,
but I just, from a simplicity sake thing,
if you're going to allow service contracts,
which is, you know, again, a win for dealers,
then you kind of have to allow anything else.
It's not the metal, you know.
Right.
So, we'll see.
No pun intended.
I said interesting, all right.
John Hutter covers retail finance and insurance for us
at Automotive News.
John, really appreciate you taking the time
and thanks for your great reporting.
Thanks again.
That's Daily Drive for today.
I'm Kellan Walker.
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About this episode
The Supreme Court's recent ruling has struck down many of Trump's tariffs, impacting the auto industry significantly as dealers face rising prices on vehicles due to these tariffs. Meanwhile, Volkswagen workers in Chattanooga celebrate the ratification of their first UAW contract, which promises substantial wage increases. The episode also delves into the IRS's decision regarding auto loan interest deductions, specifically excluding negative equity, which poses challenges for many consumers. Industry experts discuss the implications of these developments and what they mean for automakers and suppliers moving forward.