Ferrari Builds Modern F40! Porsche 18 Cylinder Coming? Car Dating Red Flags? THIS CAR POD! EP83
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Ferrari SC40
The Ferrari SC40 is a new sports car from the famous Italian car maker Ferrari. It has been very popular and talked about a lot recently because of its impressive features and style.
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Ferrari 296
The Ferrari 296 is a new sports car from Ferrari that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor to make it faster and more efficient.
Car
Ferrari F40
The Ferrari F40 is a famous sports car from the late 1980s that is known for being very fast and having a unique look.
Term
twin-turbo V8
A twin-turbo V8 is an engine type that has eight cylinders and uses two turbochargers to boost its power. This means it can go faster and perform better than a regular engine without turbochargers.
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Lamborghini Aventador
The Lamborghini Aventador is a high-performance sports car that has a powerful engine and a very flashy design. It's one of Lamborghini's most famous models.
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V6
A V6 engine has six cylinders that help it produce power. It's often used in cars that need a good mix of performance and fuel efficiency.
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V8
A V8 engine has eight cylinders, which makes it powerful and capable of high performance. It's commonly used in sports cars and larger vehicles.
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Ferrari SF90
The Ferrari SF90 is a modern sports car that uses both a traditional engine and electric motors to be very powerful and efficient. It's one of Ferrari's latest models.
Car
Ferrari 296 GTS
The Ferrari 296 GTS is a convertible sports car that has a roof that can be opened, allowing for an enjoyable driving experience in the open air.
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Ferrari 296 GTB
The Ferrari 296 GTB is a high-performance sports car that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor to go faster and save fuel.
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Ferrari 296 Speciale
The Ferrari 296 Speciale is a sportier version of the 296 GTB, designed for better performance and handling on the road or track.
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Ferrari SF90XX
The Ferrari SF90XX is a super-fast car that uses both a gasoline engine and electric motors to achieve incredible speed and performance.
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Lamborghini Gallardo
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a fast and flashy sports car that was made by Lamborghini, famous for its powerful engine and eye-catching design.
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Ferrari Roma Spyder
The Ferrari Roma Spyder is a stylish convertible sports car from Ferrari, designed for both speed and comfort, allowing you to enjoy driving with the top down.
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Ferrari Testarossa
The Ferrari Testarossa is a famous sports car from the 1980s and 1990s. It has a unique look with side vents and is known for being very fast and powerful.
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Volkswagen Group
Volkswagen Group is a big car company in Germany that owns several other car brands, like Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche. They make a lot of different types of cars.
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Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne Hybrid is a type of SUV that uses both gas and electric power to drive, making it more environmentally friendly than regular SUVs.
Brand
McLaren
McLaren is a car company from the UK that makes very fast and expensive sports cars, and they also race cars in Formula 1.
Term
Hybrid
A hybrid car is a vehicle that runs on both gas and electricity, which helps it use less fuel and be better for the environment.
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electrify
Electrifying a car means using electricity instead of just gasoline to power it. This helps make cars better for the environment and can save on fuel costs.
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W18 engine
A W18 engine is a special type of engine that has 18 cylinders. It's designed in a way that makes it smaller but still powerful, which is useful for high-performance cars.
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tri-turbo
A tri-turbo means the engine has three turbochargers, which help it produce more power. This setup is better for performance because it works well at different speeds.
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turbocharger
A turbocharger is a part that helps an engine get more air, which lets it burn more fuel and go faster. It's a way to make an engine more powerful without making it bigger.
Term
plenum system
The plenum system is part of an engine that helps send air to all the engine's cylinders evenly. This is important for making sure the engine runs smoothly and efficiently.
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Porsche 911
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Bugatti Veyron
The Bugatti Veyron is a super-fast luxury car that was famous for being one of the fastest cars ever made. It's known for its powerful engine and high price tag, making it a symbol of extreme performance.
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Toyota FJ Cruiser
The Toyota FJ Cruiser is a type of SUV that looks a bit like older Toyota models. It's designed for off-road driving and is popular for its unique style.
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Toyota Land Cruiser
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a big, fancy SUV that can handle tough roads and off-road adventures. It's known for being very reliable and lasting a long time.
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Toyota Hilux
The Toyota Hilux is a small truck that's very strong and can be used for many different jobs. It's especially good for driving on rough roads.
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Jeep Renegade
The Jeep Renegade is a small SUV that is good for driving both in the city and on rough roads. It's known for its unique look and ability to go off-road.
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Toyota RAV4
The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV that's great for families. It has a lot of space inside and is known for being dependable.
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Toyota Tacoma
The Toyota Tacoma is a medium-sized pickup truck that is great for off-roading and tough jobs. It's known for being strong and reliable.
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Hello and welcome to this car pod.
I'm Kenneth.
I'm Felipe.
And I'm Crazy Neck, filling in for Doug,
who's out on administrative leave
after his comments towards Roof not being a real manufacturer.
Tragic, sad.
True.
In all reality, he's enjoying some much deserved time off
from the pod and from the office.
So with that all out of the way, let's get to the news.
Let's do it.
And we start with Ferrari.
This car broke the internet this week.
This is the Ferrari SC40.
It's a one-off car that's being made
for a very special client.
It's based on the 296 and the whole thing about it
is that it's supposed to harken back to the F40.
Now, a lot of people are very upset about this.
So many questions.
Exactly.
You look at this car, Felipe.
And you think, aren't all F40s red?
You would be correct.
And you think, don't.
All F40s have a twin turbo V8 and you would be correct.
And you look at this and it's like,
does this remind you of an F40?
In absolutely no way does this look like an F40.
But they have said that this car specifically,
it is an F40 re-imagined.
It's an O-monus F40.
It's not an F40 out and out.
It's not supposed to be like a direct successor to the F40.
It's just a one-off car made for a very rich client.
I have a big question.
All right, so we made a lot of fun of Lamborghini
when they came out with the Countache,
which is based at the very least on an Aventador.
Why is this not based on Ferrari's current top of the lineup?
That's a great question.
The 296 is not entry-level, I guess.
But no, it's the V8.
The other one exists.
Exactly.
But it's a V6.
Yes, but it follows the V8 line.
It's supposed to be in that lineage,
which has always been kind of their entry-level.
Now it's more their middle-level cars.
Not the high-end car the F40 was,
which was the King Halo.
They have other cars.
They still have the SF90, I think.
Why is this not based on SF90?
I don't know.
It would be nice.
They could have sold one more.
I could have written that down.
That is partially my thought process, yeah.
They could just re-body some unsold units.
I'm sitting in Doug's literal chair,
and so I hate to harken his opinion here,
but one, as Doug would remind you,
any time a new design comes out,
people automatically hate it.
Absolutely.
It takes time to normalize it.
Two, it's actually pretty cool.
It does, I know you agree.
It doesn't look like the F40.
I don't love this weird headlight
connecting to bumper line there.
But the rear quarter of it definitely looks at 40.
The wing, you definitely see it,
but it isn't like the Kuntasch
where it is just a blatant ripoff of it,
like they involve the styling a little bit.
Actually, the designers said they wanted
to make it a more squared off look,
which they definitely achieved,
but I think this is a perfect example
of why Ferrari doesn't put wings on cars.
I think it's very badly executed.
I think it looks very awkward,
and it doesn't look right.
And the 296 is a beautiful, flowing, like base design.
So, and they're still, I mean,
that rear haunch is still the 296.
And so for them to then like add, it just looks odd.
And the other thing is you say,
we're going to see this car.
We're never going to see this car.
It's only going to make one.
This is going to sit in a collection.
Rich guy's going to bring his friends over,
look at this.
We're going to see it at car week every year
doing donuts around the quail.
I mean, we can hope.
The one can hope.
I like it.
I agree with you, it should be red.
That is my main critique of it.
It doesn't look good in white.
I put it in a chat GPT and redid it as red,
and I'm like, it's done.
A thousand times better.
I do agree with that.
And again, if you're paying homage to the F40,
all of them, despite what some people say they're wrong,
all of them left the factory in red.
Period.
Like that is the factory.
I said that, that's the truth in this case.
And the factory never lies.
Well, the fact is, especially Ferrari.
Well, they wanted to make as many,
well, yeah, but that near, don't forget.
They said they're going to make 400 made 1300.
The others sued them.
They're all red.
But this car, I don't know.
I do think the coolest thing about what you don't have
a picture is the, and I don't think there are any pictures
of the interior has used Kevlar instead of carbon as like,
and Kevlar is pretty cool.
It's got like a goldish look to it.
I think that that'll actually be pretty cool.
And I do think it's kind of a cool car.
When you get to the point where you can order one off
Ferraris from the company.
Yeah, you do well.
Yeah. I mean, that's pretty real.
Like that's what you dream of being able to do.
But nonetheless, of course, exactly to your point.
Who do you think the buyer is here?
It's not like the Salt and the Brunei, I doubt.
I doubt it's Eric Clapton who's known for it.
It's not James Click and Haas.
So like, who is that billionaire
that's commissioning the F40 revivals?
It's a great day.
And choosing bad, making bad decisions along the way.
Commissioner David Lee, Councilman David Lee.
And making portals along the way.
I have a question for you both.
Yeah. Go do real those.
All right, on Ferraris website for 2025,
I'm excluding the special series and then I cut our models.
Okay.
What cars does Ferrari sell in 2025?
Okay, so the G-Cheese with Chillingry.
Yeah, that's there.
The 296 GTB and then the GTS.
The...
Well done.
The 296's like the...
Wow, really?
What's the...
It's the XX, the accounting...
No, no, no.
The 296 Speciale and the SF90XX
are both in their special series.
You said I'm missing three?
Incredibly.
I'm missing three.
Are the cars already named?
It's just like this is the Aperta.
I have not included...
You're actually missing four.
I'm not including the Spyder version one.
Malfi's the entry-level car.
Then the 296...
If your song was a separate one, I can't remember.
It's because there's no...
The SF90 is gone.
Remember when it was just like there's a Gallardo
and a Mercilog?
Yeah, I remember when Ferrari famously made the Gallardo
and the Mercilog.
I should know this and I'm going to kick myself for it.
The answer, the Ferrari Roma Spyder.
Wait, they still make the Roma in addition to the Amalfi?
Just the Spyder, apparently.
Aren't they phasing out?
Oh, because they don't make...
I can't...
For now, I guess.
I can't explain it.
The A49 Testerosa is on their website, as is the Spyder.
And then the electric car is on their website as a model,
despite the fact that it just shows a chassis.
Which is as much a car as it is.
But that is what their website says.
They're 2025 line-up is.
Right.
So, of course, 2025 line-up, the electrical won't come out
until 2026 or 2027 if it comes out at all.
Also, why not make this based on the Testerosa,
which looks similar already?
The Testerosa does look very similar to that.
So, like, what did you forget about that?
Ferrari's like Hollywood bringing back reboots and homages.
Next story.
Moving on to the next story.
Porsche, the CEO.
So, this must be fleetless.
Correct. We talked about Porsche a couple of weeks ago,
because there was talks of them...
Their prior CEO, Oliver Bloom,
was also the CEO of the Volkswagen Group.
And there was a lot of concern that he wasn't able to focus on Porsche
at a time when they are struggling somehow.
They have a new CEO.
His name is Michael Liders.
He was at Porsche from, like, 2000 to 2013.
He started out as, like, the CEO's assistant in, like, 2003.
He was responsible for the Cayenne Hybrid.
So, that's exciting.
And then he went to McLaren from 2015 to 2017,
something like that.
And now he's back at Porsche.
Wow.
He's apparently very pro-Hybrid in general,
which is interesting for Porsche at a time when they...
Yeah.
...are struggling with how to electrify their line-up.
He was at Ferrari for a little bit.
He helped develop the SF90 and the 296.
Right. Great track record already.
And now he's the CEO of Porsche.
It's an interesting choice,
because none of those products are products that, like...
Or, like, eras of the company that are that successful.
Now, Ferrari, of course, has an incredible success.
I have to clarify.
The 296 is an incredibly successful car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The SF90 less so.
The SF90 less so.
Like, McLaren in those years was doing well by McLaren centers.
Yeah. Right.
Which is just above failure.
Great brand.
Ah, correct.
Which isn't... It's an interesting choice.
He was at McLaren in 2025 to...
Sorry, 2022 to 2025.
He helped develop the 750S,
which is obviously a car you can identify as a 750S.
So what do we extrapolate?
So we extrapolate that Porsche is going to do...
It's going to be more of a hybrid year for Porsche,
which kind of...
With the difficulties they've had going into full electrification,
the hybrid does seem like the...
We'll bridge the gap, but I'm curious what, like,
ideas he's going to bring to the brand.
I don't know.
If you're a Porsche, you're doing this executive search.
Who is like a tried-and-true professional
who loves sports cars that has credit in the sports car field?
There's nobody. No other sports car company,
except for Ferrari, has had any success.
Right. An AP doesn't really want to...
An Andrea Springer doesn't want to go into that,
really wants to stick with the GT cars,
which we can blame him.
Yeah.
It sounds like he knows how the company operates.
He knows the people.
And so he might just be able to remove blockers
as they become a bigger, more corporate entity.
And then, I mean, the CEO's not designing the car,
so I'm sure they have veto power to say, like,
yeah, the SF90 stinks, but at the same time,
like, that's not really his goal is to be the visionary.
I think in Italy, if you say that,
I think it's punishable by death.
If you say you criticize a Ferrari...
I find it to be an interesting hire,
because he was at Ferrari 2014 and 2019
as their chief technology officer.
How would you describe Ferrari's technology in that era?
Tough, right?
Did he take away the buttons?
Is this the button guide?
Did he get rid of the buttons?
He may be the bun guy.
It's a tough hire for Porsche.
Hard to find the right person.
They have faith in him, presumably.
It feels like an odd hire.
Like, when I saw the resume, it didn't quite make sense.
Like, this is the person that's gonna bring Porsche
to the next level.
But also, in his defense, McLaren is a hard place to work
and have a ton of success.
Ferrari, I think, is a hard place to work
and have impact and have a ton of success.
Yes.
Obviously, Ferrari incredibly successful as a whole.
Do they need to go to the next level, though?
I always think of a wartime CEO and a peacetime CEO.
Porsche's at the next level.
I mean, sure, their stock may go up and down.
And sales in China are down massively.
Their products are top notch.
Every enthusiast is like salivating to the point
where it's become annoying and a meme, basically.
True, but their larger products,
like that they need to make money on in order
to fund those projects realistically,
that seems to be where they're suffering the most.
And that's what, that's my fears
that it really impacts their ability to make the GT4 RS
and the stuff that you and I want.
To be fair, the Cayenne Hybrid, successful vehicle,
good vehicle.
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Yeah, exactly, it's kind of a,
for those of you who are listening on auto,
we all just kind of shrugged at the same time, so yeah.
Obviously he's an enthusiast's car company CEO.
Hopefully he'll bring good things to Porsche.
Yeah, I wish him nothing but the best.
And like you said, it's a great brand
that's headed in a great direction.
I hear there's another automotive CEO
that's threatening to quit
if their pay package doesn't get approved.
So maybe, he's just a temporary holdover
until a better talent becomes available.
Nice, smooth transition.
Yeah, we're jumping out.
There's three stories that we'll jump there,
go ahead and take it away.
That's how your brain works when you have disorders.
Sleep apnea.
So Elon Musk asked, Twittered, what have you,
there's debate over his pay
and the headlines are actually incredibly misleading
because it says, oh, Elon wants a trillion dollar pay package.
Well, he's mostly in stock in equity
and like that is based on future growth
and it's not like someone's giving him
literally a trillion dollars.
However, he wants to retain all the voting control.
There's a couple other stipulations,
but he's having disputes with the shareholders
and other people on how much he should be paid,
how much, how the payment mechanisms work.
And he basically alluded to on Twitter
that, hey, if I doesn't get approved,
that's someone else's problem,
then I won't be CEO anymore, I'm out.
Elon has been in a bunch of different fights about his pay.
He's currently lost through
the Delaware Supreme Court of Memory Service
about a pay package that was approved years ago
that was something like a much smaller amount,
50 million, 500 million, something that range, large range.
That was to, for meeting specific targets,
he would have gotten a ton of stock and cash.
The argument by some shareholders is that
that was not actually like the correct fiduciary thing
for the board to do, and therefore,
they were set the rights or didn't follow
about that, a large debate.
He hasn't received that money yet.
Tesla's in a weird position where they are
the most valuable car company by far.
Their market cap is many, many times
any other car company's market cap.
The stance reason that his conversation
should be quite extreme, trillion dollars
is an extreme number, his conversation
maybe should be extreme.
But there's also a question of is he helping the brand?
Is the brand advancing in any real way?
Is that stock value, is that share value correct?
Is that market cap correct?
No, short answer.
You could, the last calendar year,
you could make a serious argument
that you use more of a detriment to Tesla.
Totally.
And so there's a bit of a question there.
So a bunch of shareholder groups have advised
their members to don't vote for this pay package.
It also includes a bunch of lock-ins
that make it harder for the board
to have flexibility in the future.
He needs to fight for that, and Tesla,
understandably as a company,
he's gonna fight for him to get the pay package
and the approval from the board that they're looking for.
It's hard to take any tweet too seriously, right?
Like that's a bargaining tactic
that you need to have at your disposal.
Their earnings also came out yesterday, I believe.
They had a really good quarter,
although the analysts basically say,
yeah, of course you did, it was the end of subsidies.
We'll see how that plays out for you.
But interesting times in Tesla,
I hate that they're always a new story,
but because they are valued at more
than the other automakers practically combined,
it's hard not to talk about Tesla,
their business, and sort of their market dominance.
Should we also talk about how to pronounce it, or nah?
No, it's with a Z.
Nick also can't say the word Vegas.
Say it long as Vegas for you.
Vegas.
Yeah, he says Vegas.
Fascinating.
Vegas.
Nick struggles with simple tasks.
But that is Elon Musk's current fight.
So he currently has a fight about his pay against his board.
Well, actually the board is aligned with him.
Against the state of Delaware, sort of.
And now maybe another very...
And here he is pictured with the new roadster.
By the way, there was a news item this week
that they will show the roadster again this year.
Yep, Christmas is coming and so is GTA.
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Fool me once again, exactly.
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So going back a couple of stories.
So something new, all together new,
all related completely.
Portia has found, and back on the Portia talk,
Portia has filed an application for a patent
for a W18 engine.
So that's three six cylinder engines
mated together at the crank.
But not only that, it's also a tri-turbo,
not a bi-turbo like in Mercedes, tri-turbo.
So each one also has a turbo charger.
Now I will say that every time there's like
auto manufacturers file patents all the time.
It's not unusual that they do this.
They just want to get ahead on things.
But this would be cool.
And Portia actually followed up saying,
like explaining a little bit of their logic
of why they're doing this.
The plenum system is really interesting
about how the air is sped out to all six cylinders.
So like they put some thought into this
for some application potentially it seems.
Now, whether or not it ever comes into fruition,
we don't really know, but this is a lot of hope.
And if they make a W18 engine.
You know, 9-11 famously six cylinders.
We would not accept a V8.
Flat sixes, but yeah.
Six cylinders is what I said.
We would not accept a V8.
We would not accept a V10.
Except in the Cayenne.
No, no, from a 9-11, but this is a multiple six.
Well, it could, yeah.
It's just three of the engines.
Oh, you're saying it follows in the wind.
It could fit, you know.
It could fit. Conceptually.
This would break the internet
on the level of the Veyron did.
You know, I was thinking about the silly day.
I went back and watched the top gear,
like the Veyron race when Jeremy drove it
against the plane and raced from Italy to London.
And he said at the end that it was a hollow victory
because he will never experience that kind of power again.
And at the very end, he said, like,
no manufacturer will ever make a car like this again.
And then of course, they continued it right on the Veyron.
Then we got the sheer on.
And now a lot of cars hover over 1,000 horsepower.
So like, I don't know.
There is hope for this.
And I think if you're, to Maté Remont's point,
like if you're the type of client who wants the ultimate
and you want, if you're going to pay millions of dollars
for a car and you want something insane, that is insane.
That's cool.
Yeah. That is a serious point.
New CEO is going to put this in the Cayenne hybrid.
You know what? Maybe he's responsible for this.
Wow. Maybe that's what it started.
The hybrid is actually the hybrid of the turbos
and the three V6s made it together.
What a fascinating patent.
Like what are you, what would you, why?
Just why?
Power. Why not?
Why not?
That's that maybe that's the question
he's challenging his engineers.
He drew a line.
Why not?
He extended the 911 lineup to have a WWE team.
Exactly.
Moving on to our next new story, Toyota.
Does not have a WWE team.
Damn. I'm surprised that.
I know. So this is the new FJ Cruiser.
Yeah.
We've all said that every manufacturer needs more
off-road ready SUVs and Toyota has come through
and made a new FJ Cruiser.
It will not be sold in the, yeah it's.
It says Land Cruiser.
It would be like that's part of the Land Cruiser family.
It's based on the Hilux.
It will not be sold in the U.S.
And therefore not worth talking that much more about.
It won't be sold in the U.S. or Europe.
Mexico is going to have Jimine's and these
just cruising around and we're not,
we're going to be 20 miles away yet so far.
Yep. Exactly.
So close.
It looks so cool.
It seems, it's funny.
Toyota seems like it's becoming a truck company.
Like they've got fire lineup of trucks.
They're coming out with more bangers.
The Land Cruiser has actually grown on me a little bit
even though I was one of the like,
negative sayers initially.
This would do very well.
I wonder why they think Americans don't like
rugged off-road SUVs.
That makes literally no sense.
All they have to do is look at the Jeep.
The Jeep is the only company keep,
or the only main product.
Yeah.
The, keeping Stellantis alive basically.
And we want it.
Americans want, Jeep they want, I mean, so just bring it.
Maybe they look at the Renegade and they said,
oh, maybe it doesn't sell, huh?
The Renegade sold well.
Yeah, exactly.
Keep in mind that everybody had to buy a new one
every three years, it broke down, it died, right?
Made in Toledo, Ohio.
Thank you very much.
Right.
That's exactly right.
419.
It's a little surprising that they're not,
I mean, it's based on a platform that's not sold
in the U.S.
And I imagine it'll be a bunch of development costs
when you're complying with U.S. regulations.
But also it feels like it's worth it.
Can't be that much.
That's the cost of doing business
like if you're going to sell a car.
I mean, you want to be successful or not, like.
And we've previously discussed on the pod,
the EPA is no longer enforcing some of the like,
fuel economy standards.
It's like, this is a good time to slide in
another inefficient fuel vehicle.
And or make it off something else, right?
This is based on the Hilux platform.
Make something off of the, I don't know,
why am I blanking the name of the,
there's a platform that every single one of Toledo's
crossovers are based on.
The RAV4 platform?
No, the one that's every, all the other ones.
The Lankers and the Forerunner and Tacoma, et cetera,
based on, like make a shorter version somehow.
And it's a shame that they seem to be refusing to.
It is a shame, cause man, is that cool.
TNGA, the new generation, something.
You got that.
It is pretty cool.
I rented the old version in Sedona once
and took it off-roading.
It was, it was like a very fun, cool vehicle.
My in-laws have a first-gen one now
and it's not a vehicle that I care about, but it's cool.
You sold some of the, what was the final editions
that looked like really good with the TRD wheels and all.
They're like, they're still got a cult following
this many years later.
Worth money.
A low-mile, I'm looking at what that's called too,
is worth real money, that blue FJ Cruiser.
What's the hair teacher, whatever.
But yeah, I can't remember the,
but yeah, it's ultimate, the trail team's ultimate trail too.
It's so weird that you would do a throwback Land Cruiser
and then not do a throwback one of this right on.
It's, I agree, it's heels.
Everybody assumes it's coming in the U.S.
It's a shame that it's not.
Well, hopefully Toyota listens to us.
Listen to the Toyota, go to Toyota B,
which are right up there.
They want it to come to the United States.
Yeah, exactly, thank you.
For those who've been listening for a long time.
All right, next news story.
Moving on from something that looks like it's driving
around in rare earth materials,
we'll talk about actual rare earth materials.
All right, are you familiar with China?
Yes.
Heard of it once or two.
You've heard of it once.
It's in Asia.
It's in Asia.
China, the vast majority of rare earths
that are mined are in China.
70% of global rare earth mining happened in China.
Rare earth mining connected to cars in a bunch of ways.
It's obviously important for electric cars and batteries,
but it's also important for a lot of things
you might not expect.
Side mirrors, speakers, oil pumps, windshield wipers.
They all use some kind of magnet, rare earth stuff.
The U.S. is currently fighting with China about tariffs.
And China is retaliating in a bunch of ways,
including their own tariffs
and also including a lot of export controls,
where they're not letting specific goods leave their country
or at least leave their country and come to the U.S.
Rare earth is one of those things
that China has already clamped down on
and has threatened to lock down more,
which would pretty much put a halt to,
certainly, a view production,
but generally car production
in a really, really meaningful way in the U.S.
And so that is the story.
It is something to watch, certainly,
because that is a huge bargaining chip
that the Chinese government has,
especially because they do control exports
and imports in a way that few other countries do.
And it could legitimately shut down production
of things outside of their country.
Every automaker right now is working as quickly
as they can to lock down sources of the rare earth metals
that they need from China, from other countries,
to try to have enough.
It's a good thing we learned our lesson
from the chip shortage during COVID.
Sure did.
We don't have any supply demand issues.
Nope, sure did.
It's the same situation, just even more impactful.
Those chips led to certainly diminished production
throughout COVID of cars.
Also led to some weird decontenting.
GM famously removed heated seats from other cars
because they couldn't get the chips for that.
This would be that, but much, much more impactful
to actual, really important parts of the time.
This is the perfect storm for Jaguar,
who is your supply of cars ready to go.
We're just gonna get new cars on the road
that brings some diversity.
They're all gonna be Jags from two years ago.
W-18s with three turbos.
They need a lot of chips for this.
You're gonna start seeing a lot of cars,
like with their door mirrors removed
and mounted on other cars, like a strip off the metal.
That's the European dream.
If that were optional, option cost,
you wouldn't just check that box.
As a kid, our car did not have a passenger door mirror.
That's crazy, it's like the 70s.
It's a perfect start.
This was the 2000, the car was a 1998.
I know, but it's like the 70s, it was optional.
Cars and beds stands to benefit from this,
so we applaud, right?
We have a bunch of rare earth metals in this office.
That's, I mean, sure, but I mean,
this is just what happens when you start a trade war.
There's a lot of, there's a lot of different livers
that both sides can pull.
Boy, I hope this gets straightened out.
Speaking of rare earth metals,
I was at a fundraiser for the local fire department
over the weekend.
Sure.
They had an E39 that was on work wheels
that they used to catch on fires, training at your sizes.
Well, you know, titanium silver,
and I'm like, I wonder if there's any parts,
like their door handles look pretty nice.
I'm like, I wonder if I could pull one off for you.
But Rancho Santa Fe fire station number two
has an E39 that they use for training.
A lot of rare earth minerals.
I will also, those light on fire by themselves,
which is different for trade.
They do not, they're not fire hazards.
Well, if you're, yeah, if you have an E39 and five PSA,
make sure to replace your brake lines.
Those are the ones by the ABS module.
Those come up to the right by the headers
and that causes a fire.
You like cars that catch on fire easy,
the three fat five, the E39.
The three five five was particularly known for it.
But the E39, it's, yeah, it is an unfortunate thing.
I've had that done, so I have not,
not worried about firing my car.
The car will not light on fire.
Yes, my cars won't maintain.
Moving on to the next news story.
Wow, way no.
My favorite driverless cars, not actually.
Have you been in one?
Staunchly, no, I still refuse on ethical grounds
to get in one because.
Can you remind me of the ethical grounds?
Because it takes away jobs.
Like being a driver in the gig economy
is like one of the backstops for unemployment.
And like to have these like Google tech execs,
like making all this money by like taking people's jobs.
I don't like that in general.
It's also in an eye pace,
which like you'd have to pay me to get into.
But Jaguar sold cars.
This saved jobs for Jaguar.
Oh, please.
Only cars they sold.
They're playing idling.
However, the most important reason why I won't do it
is exactly this new story.
They're being looked into because at a school crossing,
a school bus had its stoplight out
and kids were getting out.
And the thing almost like plowed over a group of children.
Like basically they're being investigated
to see if they're actually as safe as they claim
because there's so many fringe cases
of like a duck crossing the road or like.
Well, the duck can die, I'm sorry to say.
But it has to calculate
what's what lives are worth more than others.
That's something that you have to figure out like that.
It's a classic train problem in ethics, right?
Yeah, that's right.
That's exactly right.
I'm glad they're being investigated.
I'm glad that NSGSA is taking these cases seriously.
Yes.
Obviously the kind of argument for people
that are very pro-autonomous vehicles is
human drivers also run over children in school zones
tragically, sadly.
If you're a driver, please be careful.
Legitimately like obey school zones.
I'm glad they're being investigated though.
Cause they need to like,
there are certain things that they need to be
incredibly good at for any of us to feel comfortable
with those cars on the road.
And if they're not, then they can't be on the road.
That's my stance.
I just, tech companies like when Google's AI solution
came out and it was like,
how do you make your pizza gooier?
And it says, oh, put glue in it.
Is it pulled it from Reddit without any thought?
Like I do not trust a tech company to drive a vehicle
without someone overseeing it.
They're too profit motivated and not safety oriented enough.
So at the very least it's good that there's lawsuits
to hold them somewhat accountable,
but I don't trust the US government to enforce this
in a way that's going to be a viable solution.
But I still suspect this is coming
whether you want it to or not.
I want W18s with three turbos.
And I want to pay the two final, final, final additions.
Unfortunately, one of the last of the 150,000
Pagani's on this edition.
If we run out of rare earth metals,
you can keep your eye paces, we are good.
Okay.
We'll take SC40s.
Hard to argue that.
Yeah.
Okay.
And that is the end of the news.
Thank God for that.
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Nick, you have some news.
Let's start us off.
Well, the big thing,
no one still knows what car I'm going to get next.
There's no car around.
I've been really subtle,
so keep guessing someone will get it eventually.
It's hard to tell what it could be.
But the big story for me is actually
that the Mercia logo, it ends on Thursday.
We're filming this on Wednesday,
so I actually don't know how it's going to end,
but by the time this launches on Friday,
the auction will be over.
As we are speaking, it's at $251,000.
It's a pretty good number,
and I'm hopeful that there's a little action at the end.
I expect more action.
Because a car I may or may not have purchased behind me
is coming in soon, potentially.
I'm going to pretty much let it loose regardless.
So I'm excited.
It's been really fun.
I think it's gotten something like a couple hundred comments.
Yeah.
How many of you have comments?
50,000 views, 1,800 people watching it,
which is really strong.
I've had a lot of people DM me and chat up me.
So it's been really fun just to hear everyone's reactions.
A lot of people super into the Mercia logo.
The feedback is still iffy
on if the SLR was the right choice,
but I'm having fun.
Don't tell people.
Well, yeah, I mean the...
The hypothetical...
Unnamed car made by maybe Mercedes or maybe McLaren.
We don't know.
They don't know either.
I think I speak for us all on the SLR.
I am definitely going to miss that, your mercy.
It was wild to have one in our lives,
and you're very generous in letting us all drive it.
I'm super driven, but that's on me.
Not on me.
Actually, yeah, you drove it briefly on and off a truck,
but that definitely doesn't count.
I did drive it on a truck.
I parked it on a transporter,
and then unpartisan.
With e-gear.
Yes.
That was the only time...
First gear and e-gear.
The only time I'd been in it was going upper ramp
in a tight, confined spot.
Just the worst...
Behind the career GT.
You know, that's...
That's it.
All the internet net swingers typically only drive it
about that far, then come up with the conclusion of,
oh, the e-gear is terrible.
The e-gear was fine.
E-gear, it was except for in first gear going in and out.
Thanks, it was fine.
But I am genuinely going to miss the car.
Like, I'm glad that you had the experience
and you shared it with us all,
and opened my eyes to how wonderful those cars are.
I am too.
And I can't wait to figure out what I replace it with,
but when we do find that out,
I have a feeling that that car will be pretty fun too.
So, yeah, you'll have to stay tuned next week
to figure out what that could be.
Are you sad that your Mercedes is going to be gone?
Yeah, what are your feelings?
What are your family's feelings?
Everyone's surprised.
Like, including like my mom and my dad,
they're like, I can't believe you were finally
getting rid of it.
My mom wanted me to sell it like the first day I got it,
because she's like, oh, it's too much money in a car.
I mean, but it's an icon.
I think I could always go back if I needed to.
The only lingering fear is like, they're on the upswing.
So financially, it's like, okay,
maybe it would have made sense to hold on to it longer,
but I'm ready for a new experience and it's fine.
I think whenever someone is done with a car,
whether it's going to be worth more in five years,
it's just not worth it to you to hold it that long.
So when you're done with it,
emotionally you've done everything you want to do with it,
it is time to move it on.
Now that said, to my point, I'm not done with my car,
although I am looking very much for the second car
out of the state when I will buy one soon.
But I think that you just reached the end of the journey
with that particular car.
And like you said, to your point,
you could go back to it again if you wanted to.
Well, as Hagerty points out to me every time
I add a new car to the policy,
and I'm up to six cars on the policy,
they go, we looked at Google Earth
and you have a two car garage
and our requirement is that they're parked inside.
And so every time that conversation
gets a little trickier,
but there, as you can see in this back here here.
Yeah, we'll help.
They're in a garage.
Yeah, we'll support this insanity.
But the Mercedes-Benz Logo was such a good car,
like fairly uneventful other than a starter motor.
And I am thrilled though,
not to toot your guys's horn,
because I don't work here.
But cars and bids was so easy to work with.
Your video producer shot all the pictures
and people have been like geeking out
over how cool the pictures are
with the aircraft carrier in the back.
The comments have been really good.
And 251 with 24 hours to go.
It's a good number.
I would say if this car were eager and not converted,
this is well over what it would be worth as an automatic.
Like maybe a dealer might list a car like this for 250,
but they're taking 220 probably.
Clearly they're the reward to the manual swap.
Yeah, the question will become how much we reward.
And we can't, when people are watching this,
they will know the answer to that.
I worry there's gonna be some speculators
that come after this and start buying to convert and flip,
which some people have argued I did,
that was never my intention.
But yeah, I think it's like a very exciting time
for Mercielago owners.
And it is funny, the two owners groups I'm in,
everyone's like watching this like a hawk to know,
did they make the right choice?
Should they convert, should they not?
Makana who did the conversion,
I spoke with him yesterday and he's like,
yeah, a lot of people are watching this
and wanting to know how it turns out, including them.
Because I originally talked to them about buying my car
when I was trying to get Ed's Diablo.
And we came to a number that they probably could have
converted and flipped it and made some money.
So now he's gonna figure out if he has remorse,
not buying it basically.
Yeah, I bet he does.
And I suspect the last day will be a very interesting.
He has some remorse other than all the videos
and fun adventures we've had as a team
have been good for their business.
So it's an incredible car, it's a beautiful car.
Get a manual now.
We'll miss it in our group of friends.
Yeah, but.
You're not Nick Mercy anymore,
you'll be Nick some other car.
Yeah, unknown car.
Yes, Nick.
Hey, move to your right a little bit.
Just so you can think of, they can't see what car to.
Right, so, so, so well.
I think it's an SL 55.
Yeah, probably.
Probably.
Can I talk about a car that I drove recently?
Absolutely.
I drove an Aston Martin garage all around Atlanta.
We were at, as we talked about last week,
we were in Ptila Mall a couple of weeks ago.
And I got there early so I could film a video
with this maroon black garage.
And then I drove it around, after the video,
I drove around because we wanted to add our event
at River Atlanta.
So I ended up putting a fair number of miles on this car.
Spirited driving around the lake where we were filming
a bunch of highway transit time,
a bunch of other back roads.
It's such a good car.
I did not expect it to be a good car.
Like, truly, I went in with very low expectations,
with medium to very low expectations,
and it blew them away.
And I think even if I'd had high expectations,
it would have blown them away.
I'm surprised by how much I was into this car.
By the way, there's a full review on the Cars and Biz
YouTube channel and probably linked below
if our producer did so.
Please go watch it, because I think it's a good video.
And there's also a little James Bond-esque
cartridge in it.
The video turned out amazing.
It's so fun to watch you experience cars like this,
because it's like, not initially your jam,
but you get so into it that like-
It surprises me.
It's fun seeing the car win you over in a way like that.
It really did.
I did not think that I would leave wanting an Aston Martin.
Yeah, but we also all walked away being like,
yeah, that is actually a Filippo car.
Like, I can't explain why,
but it is absolutely a Filippo car, go bid.
It's like, it's, how do I put this?
It's brown, black, which is my other car also.
Yeah, you do.
Not just the color, it is like a, I don't know, it's,
you wanted a Ferrari, but you held back.
I've never been a single Ferrari that I wanted.
Exactly, but if you did,
because you wouldn't buy this either,
but if you did-
This is the following short car.
This is the following short car a little bit,
but I think genuinely,
I think that the garage is a fantastic car.
The engine is-
The engine is, it's really the engine is the point,
but then it handles better than you'd expect.
And it drives generally better than you'd expect.
The chassis is incredibly stiff and like by design.
I'm not saying the ride is-
Yeah, you know, the ride is the chassis is stiff.
It's a very capable car.
And the varages are really overlooked,
because they're only produced for a single model year,
but that many people bought them,
and it became the next version of the DB9, in essence.
But they are really great.
I got to ride around with you in a little bit,
and it's just that-
It's better than it makes, it's so nice.
Can I go one story about the video?
So there's a little James Bond-esque scene in the video,
because our producer, Sean, we were, there were three cars.
I'm gonna go get a, give a very behind-the-scenes story here.
All right.
I'm gonna give a very behind-the-scenes
little glimpse into shooting a car in the video.
We were filming around Lake Roads.
We had this car, our camera guy,
who works on our team, Sandin, had his E34 from 35i.
And then we had a Honda Civic rental car.
That was a great car, a Honda Civic hatchback.
Sean was, Sean, our producer, was behind us in the Civic.
It was like, you know, I think that I can get a great shot
of the two cars kind of chasing each other
through some back roads.
It'll feel very James Bond-esque.
Mount a camera to the front of the Civic.
You guys drive down this road, have some fun,
and I'll film it.
There's a single shot that was usable
from when Sean was filming.
Sean decided to, for the entirety of that drive,
stay three corners behind for untold reasons.
And our editor, Sandin, did a phenomenal job
of making it look like where we used it,
I think, to appease Sean.
But it's a really beautiful video, regardless.
It really is a beautiful video.
What a great place to drive that car.
It reminds me very much of the Vanquish S,
our favorite, the Vanquish S1.
The press picture that we're taking on a woods,
driving beautiful, sweeping roads.
Like, that's what you want to do in an Aston.
Like, that's what it's for.
And I'm glad you got to experience that.
Does this make you want to experience
other high-end cars?
Yeah, it legitimately kind of does.
Wow, really?
Also, the part of filming that's got through
the same road, like, this is a great road many times,
and it just got better and better and better.
Wow. Well, good.
I am surprisingly into the Sassen.
I'll make it done by it.
Get one.
I'll make you a pact.
If you get one, I'll get a Rapide,
and I'll wrap it the same color,
and you and I can go around.
You'll wrap your, yes, Rapide.
Wrap your Rapide.
Well, I assume the Rapide didn't come
in such tasteful colors, but if it did, it would be...
You should consider a Rapide.
You got two kids.
Stradman has one right now.
Stradman has one right now.
Well, you just get to buy cars from YouTubers.
Is that going to be your business?
I think, you know, it's...
The Mercy technically came from Cultivated Collector,
who's a YouTuber.
Sure.
There was one other car that came
from a YouTuber that I can't remember.
Oh, I wanted to buy Ed Bolian's SV.
So, yeah, I kind of do.
Like, I might just slip into Stradman's DMs.
Just so you know, 122 million people have YouTube accounts,
so I think there's a good chance you could buy it from a viewer.
28, 250, as the lowest, I think we've sold it before.
No, yeah, the Rapides are a buy.
Buy, go buy that.
Get rid of your kind.
I mean, Stradman just showed up to a random dealer in Idaho
and paid like 35 for it.
And they were thrilled.
Yeah, they were thrilled to get rid of it.
Go buy that.
This is...
They're perfect for a dealership to have
for like two months as a magnet to get people in.
Yeah, it really is.
And then they realized no one actually wants to buy it.
It just test drives in like random cold calls.
This is like, yeah, small dealers in the Midwest buy this
when they see it at like one of the auctions.
At Mannheim, and then they have it on their lot
and it's like, man, and the owner of the dealer drives it
and then it's brought.
Yup, it's a gorgeous car.
After my experience, I'd want one.
It's the official like car of like a politician needs hush money.
And then that's who they...
That's what they give to keep the person quiet
for whatever misty they had.
Yeah, they don't give money, they just give her a piece.
A garage, like a used one that looks like it's all the money,
but really it was only like 35K of campaign contributions.
Like that's the ultimate hush money car.
I would love for a commenter to explain to me what I've put,
they could say, like I need to get somebody else to explain.
This is the second time he's mentioned politicians
in hush money, is there something you want to tell us?
I'm reading a book right now by Carl Heisen
in which he gives his extramarital affair,
a Aston Martin as a way of keeping her quiet.
It all makes sense.
So maybe that's where that's coming from.
DBS, that's what you want, that's beautiful.
Also you can get a DBS and a DB9 with a manual
for brief periods of time, and that's addressing.
Although the automatic didn't feel antithetical
to the 12 experience.
That's a Kenan statement.
I've never driven an automatic DBS,
only the manual was driven to.
And I actually was surprised that clutch by point
is very high and it's very vague.
And it's like, it's not actually that nice to use,
but do you want to shift feeling gears or not?
What's the pressure?
I want to shift from that.
Massive, huge difference.
So, I don't know, but yeah,
I would love an Aston Martin for you,
but you just did, you say,
I say this a few minutes and it just goes, hmm.
I don't really want to buy anything
despite the fact that I very much do,
but I like that car so much more than I thought it would.
Nice.
I'll make you a deal on it in our nash.
Yeah, so good with that.
I'll sell it to you for what I paid.
I'll trade you a Fiat 500 a bar, it's probably a fair trade.
That's an offer for you.
Probably a fair trade.
All right, Kenan, what do you got going on?
So this weekend, I'm very excited,
but by the time you're listening to this,
I will be in Mexico for the Mexican Grand Prix.
Our friend, Kevin, is having a bachelor party.
Congratulations, Kevin.
And unfortunately, you couldn't go.
I don't think you can go either.
No, sadly not.
I'm the only one here.
You want to see any of that?
Also that.
Doug couldn't go.
Not allowed in the country.
That's right.
I'm taking that bribe money.
That's right.
He actually has an Aston Martin repeat
parked in Mexico from when a politician did it.
Covered in dust.
That explains old, wrapped in purplish brown black.
Right, exactly.
But I'm very excited.
I've never been to Mexico City before.
Everybody raves about it.
I'm really excited to go.
And this was my second Formula One race in person
of the year.
I know, it's incredible.
It's the other one.
And of course, the Formula One season
is getting more exciting.
Are you watching it this year?
Oh, absolutely.
Last year, you seemed so down on Ferrari slash life
that you were watching.
I'm still down on Ferrari, but that's being a Ferrari fan.
But yes, this year, it's so close
between the two McLaren drivers
and Max, which happens to be catching up quite a bit.
I know.
So you never know.
I would never count Max out.
It still seems more likely there'll be a McLaren one.
I think there's like a 40 point gap or so
between him and getting there.
But who knows, it could come down to the end.
But Mexico City is a great track.
Yeah, the track is wonderful.
It's that elevation, which is
indicating it's a different challenge for the cars.
Yeah, Mexico City is surprisingly high level.
Surprisingly high level.
Yeah, so I will be there.
So if you see me, come say hello.
I don't bite, would love to see people.
I do the exact same thing when I was at Spa.
Yeah, always happy to see people.
And just can't wait to watch some formula.
Can't wait to see two.
Races in person is here.
Also, Mexico City is an incredible city.
I'm very excited.
It's a beautiful city.
And also during Formula One weekend,
maybe there's cool cars too.
Yeah, without it.
Honestly, there aren't, but maybe that we could.
Maybe, but I'll look for like a Lupo for you.
I'll take a picture.
Yeah, let's do.
But only a first gen Lupo.
Only a first gen Lupo.
The whole group you're going with are car people too, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's a, I think we've done this before.
My friend Sam's, our friend Sam's batch of party.
We went to the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal.
And that was a ton of fun.
So if you need batch of party ideas,
Formula One races are awesome.
And specifically ones outside of the country
because they're a lot less expensive.
And then you get to see a cool city.
You get to do car things.
And there's always Formula One stuff in the city as well.
The teams have different stuff set up
so you can go and check out the cars up close,
which is always a lot of fun.
So highly recommend it to anybody
who needs a batch of party idea.
What did you do for your batch of party?
I hung out with some friends the night before my wedding.
All right, all right.
What did you do?
I don't, we can't talk about it.
Ask what you did for your...
We can't go down this road.
No, it was either a track day or go karting.
I can't remember.
But same thing, all the car buddies and we did car stuff.
So that's surprisingly wholesome.
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All right, I want to talk about one more
car related thing, which is a few months ago,
I talked about the fact that courtesy of expel,
I have expel tint on my car.
Oh yeah, on the Volkswagen GTI.
And it's like UV blocking.
And I keep driving around in cars that get hot inside.
And then I go home and my car doesn't.
And that's really nice.
So I do recommend it.
You know, it's something that-
I keep driving other people's cars, like rental cars,
because I've traveled a ton recently.
And they all get so hot.
And you're driving around and it's hot,
and I now might actually pay to do it on my other cars.
Blast for me.
Blast, yeah.
It kind of is, because I don't modify my cars.
Yeah.
And tint is of course a modification.
Well, we don't even include tint as a modification anymore
in cars and vids, so.
But your Fiat is not modified,
because it sounds louder than any modified car I've ever heard.
From the factory.
It's shocking.
All my cars are stock, man.
But I'm glad that you said this,
because yeah, tint also like you can,
the heat rejection film you can have,
I believe they do just a translucent one.
So if you don't want like any color to it.
Mine's like a minorly tinted, which is, yeah.
Well within the legal requirements.
It does make a big difference in like,
especially on those long road trips in sunny places,
which you tend to drive to here.
I know.
I drove here a ton, but it just,
I didn't think it would make a difference,
because there's tint on my wagon.
But that's like regular tint.
This is good tint.
12 years ago.
This is why you don't cheap out on tint,
but do you?
It turns out, it turns out that's why
you don't cheap out on tint.
Yeah.
There you are.
That's my insight.
I have one more to talk cars to.
I'm gonna be not at the bachelor party sadly,
but I am going to Radwood this weekend.
It's in the court of Los Angeles.
In the multiple.
So if anyone in the LA area wants to see the multiple,
also come say hi.
I am friendly.
I got some surf style baggy pants and then a multiple shirt.
So I won the best or Raddish truck,
I think was a category with my Celine X beat
a couple of years ago.
It's time.
I'm not banking on a win this weekend,
but I also feel like it's gonna be a solid contender.
So I like it.
And then it's my birthday Sunday.
So this is the day before my birthday.
And I feel like the judges
kind of take that into account.
So art or any of the Radwood people, if you're listening,
you know, this is a shout out here.
And let's scratch my back.
I scratch yours kind of thing.
Scratch your back while giving you the,
give me the award.
And then I'll mention you on the podcast.
For sure.
Nobody's ever heard of Radwood before.
That's right.
Very, very rare.
Radwood and Hagerty have been mentioned.
So I also expect a rate discount.
I like that strategy of saying it
before you ask for something.
Right.
You know what?
And if there's a problem,
we'll get you hush money
in the form of an Aston Martin garage.
It's supposed to be hush money.
A related note last weekend was cars and copters.
There was a helicopter accident there,
which was really sad.
Nobody, there's a couple of injuries,
but it was okay.
A kid got pinned under,
which there's a GoFundMe for.
And like having a kid myself,
I'm sure that's traumatic,
even if he's physically okay.
However, the next day during the actual event,
there was some streets,
takeover style burnouts and people flocking.
And then yesterday it was announced
that South OC cars and coffee,
which is a huge one at an outlet mall.
They've had a working relationship
with the city for so long.
They have permits, all of this.
They're doing everything right.
They hire security.
They're really careful about it and consider it.
But even then the burble tunes
and the takeover crowd has made it rowdier and rowdier.
So it's being threatened to being shut down.
And then there was also slammed enough Gatlinburg.
It got shut down the last day.
It showed two I-vibes.
There is a trend where we can't have nice things
because people get a little carried away showing things off.
It went from an occasional Mustang
taking out a group of people to entire events.
So please, if you're watching this, we love cars.
We love the sound of them.
We love burnouts.
Yada, yada, yada, stop ruining the events.
If there are a ton of people there,
all you're doing is risking the fun for everyone.
And it's not cool.
Go do that in an abandoned parking lot or a track
or somewhere else
that you're not spilling the fun for everyone.
Definitely.
Don't go ruin it for everybody else.
But these are still public roads
where there's other people driving
where there's rules to be followed for good.
And most of the crashes are you hitting a random pedestrian
or onlooker and not even an enthusiast.
One, you're just irritating everyone.
Also that.
It's not cool.
I've said this before.
When I see someone in a really loud car
rip away at cars and coffee, it's like,
I just roll my eyes
and all of us collectively at the same time do that.
No one likes it.
We want to talk about cars and engage
in a very positive way in car culture,
but to the exact point you said,
if it's going to ruin it because other people live there
and we share the community with everybody,
that's a huge negative.
So just have some restraint.
Can I extend this a bit?
I would never.
Actually, your fiat might be too loud to speak.
Borderline, and I am mindful of that.
I'm going to extend it further.
Be a reasonable human when driving too.
A few, like a month or two ago,
my wife was driving home from Northern Arizona.
Her family lives out there
and you drive through a town called Skull Valley,
which is like a lot of like twisty roads
because you're going down a mountain and no service.
She noticed a car coming the other way
that was like crossing across the line.
She was able to get off the road.
They then, the car that was passing her
was like some regular sit-so-down,
then lost control and like turned around in the intersection.
A car behind my wife slammed into them.
And there's no service for about 20 minutes.
So my wife kept driving to like call 911.
She then did like wait for ambulances to show up, et cetera.
But somebody did die in that accident
all because somebody was driving
quite irresponsibly on public roads.
Don't, other people's lives are legitimately at risk
as a result of your actions.
So just don't do that.
Find a track, go to track.
They learn how to drive more effectively.
Don't use public roads as your experimentation.
In California, we see it a lot.
Like people go to the Canyons in particular
and cross the double yellows, which is a big no-no.
Like go out and enjoy the roads and have fun,
but like just beavers.
If you see that 458 that crossed the double yellow
at the tail of the dragon,
someone posted on Instagram a classic 458.
Meaning they are so young,
they think a 458 is a classic car.
I'm like, oh my God, I feel so old.
However, yeah, it slammed into a U-Haul.
It was entirely the Ferrari driver's fault.
Just don't do that on public roads.
It's not just your life at risk.
Be mindful that there's other people
that are also needing to get places
that are driving, don't want to put them down.
Have fun, be responsible.
Important PSA, don't die.
Don't die.
Thank you.
Don't result in the way of your car hobby if you die.
And also, if you kill somebody, it is bad.
Yeah, that's, don't do that.
Then you need to buy an Aston Martin garage
for the family that was affected.
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Philippa, you had some thoughts online.
I can't believe that.
I can't believe that.
I know, I tried to get it out of there as quickly as I could
and I think I saved it like that 458 driver couldn't.
Ooh, nice.
All right, pull up.
We sold the V70R recently.
That is, I think that's one of the-
That's a Filippo car, I know.
Oh, it's such a Filippo.
That has to be the highest.
Highest V70R result that we've had.
I think it's higher than any other public auction one, too.
It was not a super low mile long,
but it was an incredible spec.
Yeah, flat screen over at a comma,
which is that there's like wild green, blue over-
I don't know what-
Orange, just brown.
It's with the Spaceball 6-speed manual.
It is like the V70R that you would want.
It's the right color combination if you're an insane human
who likes insane color combinations.
It's a manual, it's really special.
This is a high-ish mile car, scroll down.
140,000 miles, it has some mods,
but it's still got an insane result
because the right spec matters.
Regular V70R's automatic ones are not worth much.
Correctly so, for being honest.
But the right one really, really, really is.
And clearly, the market is continuing to reward these.
This is the highest result that I've seen.
Clearly, there's still a lot of interest in these cars
and these, I think, will continue to appreciate it.
Imagine, I mean, seeing this as one where you take a picture,
you send it to the whole group.
I would get out of my-
I could be unanimous.
Everyone either thumbs up or hearts it, like that is.
I would get out of my car to check if it was,
like I would stop in traffic,
get out of my car to check with the 6-speed manual.
Do you think the guy is always like,
I mean, they're Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires,
it looks like, on this thing.
Do you think when you put this on, it's like,
oh, these are so expensive.
This car isn't worth much and was rewarded.
I'll be honest, I think to you.
Okay, I think this car, it is a if-you-know-you-know car.
But I wouldn't imagine many of these
are in non-enthusiast hands at this point.
No, no, no, no.
Especially in that color,
because it normally would not want that color.
The space ball, so were you ever driven a space ball?
No.
I haven't either, I'd love to.
I've driven a bunch of V70, no V70 RS.
Ah, well, you have to, we have to find one for you.
We gotta find a V70 RS.
Because it's so you.
If we had a flash green
over at a comma V70 RS in this office,
I would have, it would be the best day of my life.
I'll see if I can make that happen.
Sorry, it's my wife and my wedding day.
Yeah, I was going to say, that's Saturday.
Exactly.
We'll see if we make that happen.
You went for more than I repeat.
Yeah.
And honestly, I'd rather have those than I repeat.
And that's just a lot,
because I do now all of a sudden kind of want to repeat
in case I ever need to bribe somebody.
Right, yeah.
I don't think this will get you
out of political turmoil as effectively.
But it would for me.
If I create political turmoil for a politician
and then he could give me a car,
this is not about me.
Because when I think of you, turmoil,
so what does it come to mind?
I know, also I can't be bribed, so.
Right, you couldn't bribe him with a cookie
if you wanted to, he just won't accept it.
He will accept lettuce though.
He does like that.
So actually, that's how he gets you.
Different kind of cream.
All right, move on.
Filippo can't be bribed and that expel read there
was absolutely not compensated for, right?
No, only an expel tent, and I legitimately am enjoying it.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanted to talk about this car.
So we sold a Dodge Viper ACR extreme recently.
Now, Vipers have been kind of a weird spot recently.
Like we had this GTS that was bid to the 85,500,
which fell a little up, honestly, which is a deal.
I did not realize that any,
we usually, there's not that many fiftians.
Not that many fiftians.
And mostly the ones that we sell are really like quite nice,
or like the Viper TA, the track attack, or the ACR.
That is interesting.
But yes, I thought that GTS result was interesting,
but this underscores how high the Viper goes.
I don't think people fully understand
that like the later edition ACRs like
are 300 plus thousand dollar price.
I mean, it's more than your mercy for that.
I mean, it's pretty impressive.
Now, of course, it was the end of the line for the...
We don't know what the mercy is.
We don't know what he's gonna sell for.
Currently, it's more than your mercy.
I'm hoping for that number,
but I'm not getting my hopes up too.
I will say, this is the highest ACR extreme result
that I've seen.
Sorry, there was one higher one, but it had 386 miles.
Same.
Now, of course, this goes right to the color.
This is striker purple,
which is a really incredible looking purple.
And it was a one owner car or 8,000 miles,
that sort of stuff.
But I kind of forgotten how expensive these cars are.
They are very highly sought after,
which again, further underscores how much of a value
like the third gen is to me.
We sold a friend of cars in Bids, Steve,
we sold his Viper for 50 grand,
which I thought was a very strong result for a third gen.
But even so, I still think this is very cool.
I'm happy that the fifth gen's are worth so much,
especially the ACRs.
If you're looking for value,
I really think the third gen,
like really, really, really consider it.
That purple one, too, I have to say,
anytime someone posts a garage like that,
you just kind of like, you know,
you know it was kept well.
You know you're buying from a reasonable person,
but that garage is incredible.
A clean, epoxy on the ground.
They're actually a storage facility, just so you know.
Oh, a storage, yeah, a garage.
Who helps their clients sell cars?
There was one,
legitimately, this was one of the highest ACR sales.
I did see one that was more,
but that had under 500 miles.
Clearly, they're being,
I'm glad the fifth gen, that's an insane car.
Just poignantly an insane car.
I'm glad people are appreciating it.
Totally. And using it.
There's nothing like it.
We very likely will not see a car like this again.
8.4 liter NAV 10.
Largest engine put in a car since World War II.
But an automobile, like a car car, not like it.
Is that real?
Are you making that up?
No, that's true.
Largest displacement engine put in a car
since the Second World War.
Wow.
What happened in World War II?
All right.
All right.
Blimey in with regard to engines.
You know what, Nick?
Open the book.
I just got a bad leg cramp.
Yep.
God, you really are about to turn 41.
Hey, don't up my age.
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Can we talk about the RS4 bond that we have on?
Oh, yeah, that's on my list.
I know, I'm with you on it.
Deep Nick vehicle.
Frothing.
Oh, B7 RS4.
Now, famously, the RS4 bond was not sold
for the North American market.
It was sold in Europe and other parts of the world,
but not here.
This one is brought over.
It's in Canada currently,
because I believe it's what, 15 years?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It can't be imported yet.
Lucky can not.
Yeah, so it can't be brought into the United States,
but look at that.
This, I mean, this is...
It's the one.
This is exactly the one you want.
Sprint blue, right?
Is it the new color?
Sprint blue, the Y, this is just so cool.
Man, when these are importable,
you really should consider.
Oh, I'm considering converting one,
because I want it so badly.
I also just kind of wonder,
like, could you find the right day at a DMV
where they just don't really know?
I'm not advocating for this,
because it is illegal, but you absolutely could get this.
This feels like a victimless crime you could get away with
or get someone an Aston Martin garage if you get caught.
There is no doubt you could get this titled.
It would not be here legally.
The feds could impound it at literally any moment.
And take it from you.
I want to be very clear.
You should not do this.
Nobody should do this.
On the most listen to automotive podcast on the internet.
You should not do this.
Do I think you could get away with it?
Yeah, of course.
I think you probably could.
For some amount of time, you could.
Now, don't do it, please, for a bunch of reasons.
There are other things you could do.
You could buy this on the country and register there,
and you can bring it in for a certain period of time.
It's a year or two years?
I don't know exactly what it is,
but it then does have two weeks.
It has to go back.
You could in theory.
And people have been doing this with R34s and such
before they're legally importable,
but it'd be a lot of work.
A lot of work.
Or just build one.
Or you could start a museum.
What's stopping us from making this a museum?
A lot.
Wow.
That's an interesting question.
We could become the next Lane Motor Museum.
I know.
They have the best cars.
The San Diego Automotive Museum is walking distance
from here, so let's partner up.
Clap.
That's true.
I do know the curator over there.
Regardless, such a cool car.
Also, the only mods, thankfully,
are KW Coilers, which is an acceptable mod on that car.
Yeah, the DRC is known to leak a little bit.
The dynamic ride control is the magnetic ride.
And the head unit, which is a reasonable one.
This is the one.
Sprint blue, blue interior.
There's been a few that I've seen come for sale in Canada.
Obviously, even getting it to Canada with 15 years,
it's technically legal, but it's not a common thing to do.
And a lot of the ones you do see end up getting
pretty modified by hardcore Audi VW people,
so it is nice to see one unmalested in the right spec.
I was in Toronto a couple of weeks ago for a wedding,
and I spend the entire time looking for rare JDM cars
that had been imported there that aren't legal for us yet.
I saw none.
I'm not surprised.
There were a lot of cars that were only sold in,
that were not sold in the US, but were sold in Canada,
but those don't count.
I'm not surprised.
It's funny, I'm in a bunch of RS4 groups,
and there'll be people in the UK and in Europe
that are just parting them out.
For minor accidents,
because it's like a $15,000 car over there.
And then we're all like, oh my gosh,
I would become a museum and pay off a politician
to have this car here.
It's crazy.
If you buy, obviously you can't for another,
this needs to be 25, right?
Yeah.
You can't for another eight years, but...
32, I think.
20, 32.
Yeah, I guess we're 20, 25.
And then depending on the month,
that's the whole thing.
You can't for another six years.
Once you do, I will buy an RS4 convertible to match it.
What?
All right.
The RS4 category of this generation
is the rarest RS4.
That's right.
I understand this.
You're not getting one of them.
I would.
By then they'll be like four grand.
We've sold a couple of RS4s.
They have held their value.
Yeah, which is shocking because it's not...
They're the rarest RS4.
It's the rarest and also least desirable, but...
They're the rarest RS4.
Why did they build them?
Go back to the one before that sold for $43,000.
This was at, I mean, remember,
they're the A4 had a convertible,
the two door convertible as well.
Look at that.
It was just the thing they were doing.
That's a $43,000 car apparently.
Yeah.
Well, this one was.
A lot of them have no miles
because the sedans were used as dailies.
The convertibles were like,
you lived somewhere with inclement weather
and you wanted to extend your summer car
a little bit into the fall and spring,
but it really wasn't like a daily.
Six-feet manual, all-wheel drive, V8.
It is cool.
We saw one at Rotolanta.
I haven't seen one in years,
but that is a very cool car.
But we have to move it on.
We have to move it on to questions.
Questions, questions, questions.
All right.
I'm gonna take the questions.
I'm gonna read out the questions.
Filippo's gonna read the questions,
but if you want to ask us a question,
you go to the community tab.
There'll be a post under this car pod.
You click there and you can ask questions
that Filippo, Nick, Doug, our producer, Sean,
any of us, we will answer them
and we have a lot of good questions this week.
I want to be really transparent.
Normally, Doug selects the questions.
He's gone this week.
So our producer has selected a subset of questions
and he has added a note next to one
that says that you must do this in all caps.
Is it about Alfa Romeo?
So we're gonna find out.
We're gonna find out.
It's about the tip fraud.
From Cardi Cards.
Rink your top five cars
from the Fast and the Furious franchise.
Okay.
Your top five cars from the Fast and the Furious franchise.
The lightning, the Ford SVT lighting.
Yeah, that's a great one.
Put that up there.
The Fierro, that goes to space.
That happens, I think.
I'll put the Super and the 355 together as a pair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deserved to be on there.
The GLI, you'll choose.
The Jetta GLI.
It is an icon.
Is it a GLI or is it not a generation that had a GLI?
It's a Mark IV Jetta, I don't know.
Right.
With trim.
Yeah.
Tsuki's S2000.
The R34 that Paul actually owned.
The 3000 GT-VR4 that I think is in the second one.
Isn't there a 3000 GT-VR4 convertible
in the second one?
I feel like there was one.
The charger from the Rio de Janeiro thing.
I've only seen the first one,
so I can't really see it for the second.
I think we've succeeded.
So we're just naming all the cars.
We're naming all the cars.
You're supposed to rank them, I believe,
or pick the top five.
I'll introduce them in preparation.
Can you, I don't have a list.
How come the lichen's not in your list?
The what?
The lichen.
What?
It was a car, a lot of angles.
I think if you buy it, like jumped over a vehicle.
Oh, that car, the one that flew out of a building
and put another building.
A bullion, for whatever reason,
had one at one point that was like a...
Wasn't it a shell or something?
It didn't run.
You guys saw the scene, right?
It drove out of a building.
Yeah, and do another building.
Into another building.
As you do.
These are all real things.
Everything that we've said,
if you don't know the franchise,
these are all real things that happen.
The franchise has gotten exponentially worse each episode,
but sales have also gotten exponentially higher.
So perhaps I'm an outlier there.
There's also, was it two or three that the,
it was the Evo and then the Eclipse?
Yeah, that's true.
It was like the bad Eclipse.
Like that was the top one.
But the Evo was good.
There was a slieness...
There was a third gen Viper in the second movie.
The slieness 281 Hollywood edition
that got crushed by two SUV or semi-trucks at the beginning.
Nice.
There's been a lot of good cars.
There have been.
I have seen all the movies incredibly.
Wow.
My wife and I went through a thing
of watching all of them over the course
of like six months or a year,
but only the first three stick in my mind.
And the fifth one,
the fifth one I consider to be maybe the best one.
They steal a safe out of a police department in Brazil.
It's pretty good,
but then again people did steal some stuff
from the Louvre this week.
So it was a little more...
There's also a Volkswagen Tuareg in that one,
and that's a pretty good car.
Yeah.
I don't know why I haven't watched them.
I just...
You haven't seen any of them?
This is the first one.
You need to watch the second, the third, the fifth.
Second, the third, the fifth.
And then the seventh,
because the car drives out of a building
to another building.
When Paul passed that he drives a white Supra
as the roads depart,
I cried in that literally in the theater,
but like that would surely boost on.
Definitely gotta be number one.
I think the Supra has to be number one.
If you're gonna pick...
I know this doesn't really answer the question,
but you're gonna pick one.
I think the Supra.
It's Supra and Skyline,
because it really brought the import tuner culture
to the mainstream.
Totally.
Really dead.
Supra and Skylines are popular because of that movie.
Influential-wise, I do agree.
The Mark 4 Jetta is oddly recognizable.
Frankie Munez bought it famously.
Really?
After and had a...
Do you have either a race car driver or no?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, and NASCAR, right?
Or maybe Sprint.
I think the Sprint Cup series.
Funny enough, speaking of bachelor parties,
my wife was at a bachelorette party in Arizona.
He was dining there with his crew
and he paid for the entire party's meal.
Just like no barely eye contact.
Like he said, congratulations.
I bought your...
And it was like 15 girls,
like all eaten dinner at some fancy restaurant.
By the way, it was a Mark 3 Jetta.
Mark 3.
Thank you.
Yeah, so he's like a real good guy.
Can't believe you had the wrong generation
for a Volkswagen Audi product.
I'm more of an Audi guy.
It happens, sometimes people make mistakes.
It's okay, give us another question.
Yeah, can I give you a different one?
Yeah, absolutely.
Next question from Dubber Duck.
I know that most of you are married.
Nick and I are, Ken and maybe proposing soon.
If you were hypothetically single,
which cars would be a serious red flag
if they were owned by a potential partner?
Also, if you were giving advice
to a female friend looking for a partner,
what cars that a car guy might own would be red flags?
Cars that someone owned were a red flag.
I think for me, there's a lot of cars
that are bad cars that people might own.
They're not three red flags
because they may have made sense at that time.
Now, if they modified cars in like a horrible way
that I don't like, that would be a bit of a red flag.
Beasy 4X, that's good.
No, that's not a red flag.
I would question their responsibility.
I would question their decision making.
I would question a lot of things.
So it's like a, yeah, it's a red flag.
Good point.
Yeah.
Isn't that what that means?
If you used to buy a bad car,
but you had better options,
that's a little bit of a red flag
about your ability to be a responsible human.
Right, what other...
There's a lot of cars that I would tell
if a female friend was starting to date somebody
that it'd be like, are you sure?
No, any...
Well, there's some good Nissan's.
Any modified M4.
Yeah, slam, you know what, that.
But then, see, then someone is kind of interested in cars.
I don't think we would agree on a lot of things,
but I think it's like...
A four series, fine.
An M4, maybe fine.
A modified M4 competition, not fine.
Or you could woman up like Emily
and get an M3CRT, but...
Well, if you have an M3CRT, that's a green flag.
Yeah, that's a very green flag.
I'll answer this in a way
that won't be controversial and get cut
and then have to be re-filmed, hypothetically speaking.
And I've talked to my wife about this before.
I don't expect my partner to be into cars
or have good taste in cars
or like they can be car agnostic.
So really, I wouldn't judge or care what car they drove.
As long as they're cool with me having a car hobby,
like they could have a cooler car than me.
They could have a Prius.
I wouldn't really care too much.
I would maybe be worried about if they had a car
that was like extremely high maintenance
in a way that like a G-wagon kind of vibe of like,
I want to be like a Kardashian.
Like a materialistic person.
G-wagon.
Like for you, yeah.
That new Maybach convertible
that has the Maybach logos on the hood,
like that would scare me.
I would marry somebody that has that car.
That's true, they would be wealthy.
They'd be wealthy.
Keep that in mind.
The dowry would be really beneficial.
Yes, and then, yeah,
but then you have to go through a divorce
because it's gonna happen inevitably.
But then you might get something out of it.
Of course you would look at the financial case.
I do think to that point,
if somebody made a decision,
cars for most people are just like a financial decision.
It's the second largest purchase you make
other than your house, probably.
If somebody made like a really irresponsible decision,
a BZ4X is on that line,
but like if they're like incredibly underwater
on a, they bought a bunch of Jeep Liberties
and kept trading them in and kept being more underwater
and out of finance at 30%,
that's a bit of a red flag
because I worry about their financial rabbits.
Owning a Jeep Liberty on its own
might just be that you're from the Midwest.
You know, like, it depends.
Now, so on the flip side of things,
for like, I do have friends who are women who are single,
if they're guys, if they're dating someone,
these Indy cars, and I find out what car it is,
there are certain ones that I'm a little nervous about,
any challenge you must take.
I don't know, they're, I don't know.
Camaros, like Camaros are kind of a red flag card.
I stand by M4 Comp, so they're modern.
M4 Comp is actually a pretty good baseline.
That's a pretty good one.
Anything that, I will say, if like,
he's interested in cars and I ask him a question
about cars and the guy doesn't know anything,
like, you can tell, you can tell when someone
doesn't actually know anything about cars.
That, to me, is more of a red flag.
If you fake badged or up badged your car, red flag.
Sure, up badging.
A drift charm hanging from your rear tow hook, red flag.
Missing your front tow hook cover,
hypothetically, red flag.
Red flag, yeah, like fall out and can be easy.
Miss matched hub yes.
Oh, that's for a car that has miss matched tires.
Oh, sure, that just kind of indicates
that you're not attentive to your car.
You're a lack of detail person,
and I don't have any tolerance for that.
All of my single friends that drive Ferrari 360s
are a little questionable, but that's specific to me, I think.
That might be specific to you, yeah.
I don't know, I think something in there,
like that speaks to either their materialism
or you can extrapolate something more on their personality.
If you wrapped your car gold or chrome.
A wrap, a wrap.
Or like any kind of like bass boat level finish.
Unless it's really good.
You've been to Arizona?
Also if you have a bass boat, that's maybe a pro.
Yeah, we love all cars, and that is factoring in here.
It's a little bit more about what does that say about your...
I don't love all cars, not everybody loves all cars.
That's just a fact.
You hate expensive cars.
I don't particularly like inexpensive cars.
That's an interesting point.
If you drive a Huracan,
if your friend is just like meeting somebody
that drives like a Huracan.
Well, as long as he's not like owned to Chase Comas,
I think we're okay.
Like, you know, McClendon clients in Huracans are...
All right.
I don't know, ultimately it comes down more
to the person themselves,
less about the car that they drive, or it should.
Yeah.
The Dually, I think is a good sign.
It's a good sign.
Yeah, I think it's a great...
They can haul things.
What about like a Carolina squad?
That's a bad sign.
Yeah, bad sign.
Bad sign.
All right, moving on to a question from Bear
at the Control 7.
You just heisted priceless jewels
from a major European museum,
which has maybe happened this week.
What are you picking as you get a way car?
Could you need it to be quick, maneuverable,
but also maybe discreet?
This message may be shocking to many millennials.
If you are one, you might want to sit down.
Right now, loads of people are searching
the following on Depop.
Low-rise jeans, halter top, velour tracksuit,
puka shell necklace, disc belt.
You likely place these in the dark of your closet in 2004,
never to be seen again.
But if you can find it in yourself to dust them off,
there are a lot of people who will give you money for them.
Sell on Depop, where taste recognizes taste.
If you want to be discreet,
definitely, you want it to blend in.
I mean, in this country, it'd be a Tesla of some kind.
They're a Gisele and Model 3s.
That's a great point,
because they fly out of the radar, they're silent,
they're fast, and in Southern California,
nobody pays attention to Model 3.
You can get a white Model 3, because they are everywhere.
It's not bad at all.
Isn't this the plot of the Italian job?
It's a plot of every, it's oceans 13.
The Italian job, they were stealing money from a guy's house.
He, for what it's worth, had a Nasser Martin V12.
I was guessing it was oceans 12.
They stole the Faberge egg, I think.
Almost really similar plot line, but really.
But in Europe, we'll choose some kind of small hatchback.
It's France, it's Paris.
Everybody drives a small hatchback.
I'd say a Waymo, because it can't narc on you.
But it can, there's cameras on the inside,
there's cameras on the outside, it won't go around.
If you're going to pick the worst one, that is the worst.
Nick's getting caught, is what's going to happen.
If you hypothetically stole a priceless jewel and sold it,
what would you buy?
What would be the sign?
The question at the end of the Italian job,
excellent movie, by the way, is what do you like?
Original or the remake?
The remake.
Original, also good.
They drive around Fiat's test track,
top of a building, how can you not love it?
What, there was a question like,
what do you spend that money on?
What would you, what would be the telltale sign
that you stole a ton of money?
You already owned a mercy,
but it's just for some people, the telltale sign.
You'd own another one.
What's the, it would definitely be all cars.
It'd be all cars, he'd have a bang.
What is the one car that you would drive?
Oh, yeah, I think a Vey.
Vey is probably, for me a VNF 50, of course,
but I think that the Vey is probably the one for him,
but not that I would steal the priceless item
of return to the people of France where it belongs.
I would, of course, just invest it responsibly.
You'd invest it for a FOIB, wild.
The IRS would be looking at you.
All right, the second question from Bayer, the Control 7.
Which automaker that currently doesn't offer
any enthusiast-oriented models?
Do you think it's best positioned to launch one?
There's not many left, is there?
Who doesn't make a performance car that should?
Toyota makes a Supra,
what is Honda doesn't make the S2000 anymore?
The specific type R, though.
I'll say Mitsubishi had a great history
of making very high-performance, very cool cars.
They were killing it in the 90s and early 2000s,
and it is all gone now.
What do they make these days?
I'm really excited for the Clips Cross.
The R4.
I'll go for it.
When turbo-charging became more popular,
and we were losing the naturally aspirated engines,
and that was the way things were skewed.
I mean, this was like early 2010s, late knots.
I really felt that that was the time
that if Buick wanted to bring back a Grand National,
they should have.
And that would have been cool.
Buick is a good answer to this,
although they only make SUVs now.
They only make SUVs now, but if you work,
I mean, the Grand National is so damn cool,
and they weren't a performance-focused company,
but if they were going to do one,
bring back the Grand National would be cool.
Or bring back the Evo.
Yeah.
I do think Honda, to your point,
does make the Civic Type R.
And that's an enthusiast car,
but that's the only one I can think of that Honda makes.
And I think that every other automaker,
every premium automaker, certainly,
has realized that you can make a lot of money
by selling like M-Sport or AMG, whatever they call it.
Yeah, S-Line or whatever.
Why hasn't Honda remade sporty-ish products?
They could sell well with a Ford Sporty,
with a CR-V red line.
Honda respects the purity.
They don't need to do an ST, you know, like a...
They respect the purity.
Even...
Okay, Toyota, we talked about this a few months ago,
now has, the next generation RAV4 has a GR model
that has a suspension to the GR.
First drives were out today.
I'm incredibly sad that I wasn't in Phoenix review in it.
Did I want it to?
Legitimately, I've already had a fight today.
No.
Pull it up.
The RAV4 GR.
I don't...
Okay.
Even they're making a...
They're compact SUV, which is a plug-in hybrid,
320-something horsepower.
They're making a sporty version of it
that is apparently quite decent.
Yeah.
Like, why doesn't Honda making anything sporty?
But you are talking about something, we all bemoan.
Yeah, I don't want that.
I'm so sick of seeing M-Batch.
Find me, go into a BMW dealership,
find me a BMW that does not have an M-Batch on it.
They all have it, even if they're not M-Cars.
It's very annoying.
The Alpina.
The Alpina XP7.
I'll bet there's an M-Batch somewhere.
Yeah, probably.
But like, it's just, I just, I don't like this,
not on it, because in my opinion,
like, I like, it's like, get the special car.
Like, honestly, it takes time, get a used one,
something like that, if you want it.
Like, just save and get the special car.
Like, that's kind of my view on it.
I hate when companies water down these special brands.
I understand that they're making it more accessible,
but the reality of it is, is like, an M3 is an M3,
and an M-Sport is like, just not.
I don't know.
Do you know how fast a 340, an M-Sport is?
I know it's fast, but the M3 is faster,
and it's an M3.
It's the real deal.
But clearly the market does want some sportiness,
and if automakers build slightly sportier versions
of interesting cars, or cars generally,
that makes it a little bit interesting.
Yeah, I liked when BMW did the IS thing, though.
If I'm gonna make the BMW comparison,
I liked when they did that.
I thought that was really...
You need more on badges.
Well, I like discretion.
I was saying, I interpreted the question,
I mean, an actual sports car,
rather than an enthusiast trim,
and my answer was gonna be Cadillac.
They need the XLR-V.
They make the CD4V black one.
They make the CD5V black one.
A sports car to me has two doors.
Got it, got it.
Maybe a small, but unusable rear seat.
So if we had the CN or the XLR-V,
something like they need the CA Corvette Cadillac version,
I think it would sell well.
I agree.
I think it's a no-brainer.
They've already done all the development.
Give me a mid-engine Cadillac.
I'm interested.
I agree.
You know what would be nice?
Ferrari made a good sports car.
All right.
Yeah, nothing you would know.
They make great sports cars.
It's a joke.
I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.
All right.
One more question.
One more question.
Honest question.
Okay.
This is a question from just Josh and you.
This person wants specifically your opinions.
Oh boy.
They want,
what are some of your automotive opinions
that you feel more comfortable sharing without Doug here?
I feel like I enjoy pushing Doug's buttons,
so I don't hold them back.
And I feel like Roof is an automotive manufacturer.
We already talked about mods are good to talk about.
I enjoy making them upset.
So I don't know if I've held any back.
What else do I have?
Is there a car that he loves that you hate?
Oh, but we would know about it.
You're right.
Doug and I have pretty similar tastes,
like the Bentley Dominator, Diablo.
Yeah.
I said no more hot things.
Oh, actually, yes.
Although again, I've argued with Doug to it.
Doug, thanks to Diablo 6.0,
is the ugly or the bad version of the Diablo.
I consider it to be the grail.
And like, yes, I like all the Diablos,
but I think the 6.0 is the most beautiful
and aesthetically pleasing inside and out.
And Doug feels strongly that the early Diablos
are the Diablos.
I think it's like the Kuntash.
He was trying to say this is like the 25th anniversary.
Kuntash is to the Periscopo.
I think the 6.0,
maybe it was just like I was of the right age
where I was certainly like most impressionable,
but I love the Nissan headlights.
The interior no longer looks like a kit car.
It looks like a real car.
Well, they put real engineering into it too.
I mean, the interior got two inches wider.
Like I've driven both.
Of course you have.
I've driven an SV and I've driven a 6.0
in a sunset edition.
Yeah.
But I counted, they're on my loss.
Did it get a six speed too, or is it still a five speed?
Still a five speed.
All the way through is a five speed.
But it's got a six liter engine.
I mean, anytime you get more display,
it's generally better too.
I like the way the rear-wheel drive cars drive better.
I like the earlier car better.
I have to say.
And I also like, I think that I actually agree with him
that I think that like,
I like the pop-up headlight cars.
Like I just, they're more classic to me,
but I understand why you like this
because it's a transition between this and the Mercy.
And this is what you remember when you were that age
and like the internet was something
and you started seeing cars like this
and like this one is cemented in your memory.
It's so legit.
And it is, it doesn't matter if it's a later car
or an early car, any Diablo to me is damn cool.
The other Doug Hot Take that I think is objectively wrong
is he's obsessive about license plates.
Oh, you don't agree.
It feels that having license plates from a certain state
are a detractor to the overall driving experience.
I celebrate all 50 states, especially ones
to the north that have no sales tax and emissions.
I love the line, I celebrate all states.
Yeah.
He doesn't know where they are, but he celebrates them.
No, I know where Montana's next to Wyoming.
Yeah.
If we were talking about Montana,
which maybe we are, maybe we aren't.
Of course, next week we don't know what car
I'm gonna get next.
We don't know where I'm gonna register.
Of course, next week you will get to hear
more of Nick's opinions.
I will be gone for the next three weeks.
Incredible, I'm very sad.
Wow.
But you will, instead of my place, get Nick.
And you'll get Nick and Doug together,
so that's gonna be a, I'm sorry.
Do I have to take on your, your takes?
Yes, you do, actually.
Well, Felipe.
You must talk about CEOs, you must talk about EVs.
I will, I will invest wisely.
Thank you.
And if someone suggests this exciting car,
do you go, hmm, I don't know.
That's what you do, that's what you do.
In the meantime, make sure to check out
my Aston Martin Verage video.
Make sure to also check out Nick's channel,
youtube.com, slash, Nick Roshan.
Yeah.
And thank you for watching.
What is this?
This is the, what?
This is the best podcast we've ever done.
Best one, Ken and Sedit.
Yep, thank you for watching.
We'll talk to you next time.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
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About this episode
A lively discussion kicks off with the unveiling of Ferrari's SC40, a one-off homage to the F40 that has sparked mixed reactions among enthusiasts. The hosts debate its design and lineage, questioning Ferrari's choice of base model. The conversation shifts to Porsche's new CEO and potential hybrid innovations, followed by a dive into the implications of rare earth metal shortages on the automotive industry. The episode wraps up with humorous takes on car dating red flags and automotive opinions, all while keeping the tone light and engaging.
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00:10:19 Elon Musk vs Tesla
00:15:51 Porsche's W18 Engine
00:18:28 Toyota's New Land Cruiser FJ
00:21:43 Tariffs Impact On Rare Earth Mining
00:25:36 Waymo Under Investigation
00:28:10 Talk Cars
00:29:55 Nick's Selling His Murcielago
00:35:43 Filippo Drove A Virage
00:42:48 Kennan Is Going To The Mexican GP
00:48:01 Filippo Like Window Tint
00:49:22 Nick's Bringing The Multipla To Radwood
00:54:39 Market Report
00:55:02 Volvo V70R
00:57:47 Dodge Viper ACR Extreme
01:01:45 Audi RS4 Avant
01:06:02 Community Questions
01:06:34 Rank The Top 5 Fast and The Furious Cars
01:10:26 What Cars Are Relationship Red Flags?
01:16:03 What Is Your Getaway Car?
01:18:09 What Non-Enthusiast OEM Is Primed To Launch One?
01:22:13 What Opinions Will Nick Share Without Doug Around?
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