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FINDING THE PERFECT BOOK TOUR OUTFIT w/ KATE FROM NAPTIME KITCHEN
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About this episode
Kelly and Kate dive into a lively discussion about life as a New York Times bestselling author, with Kate sharing her experiences on book tours, family dynamics, and the challenges of balancing motherhood with her new career. They explore the nuances of personal style, including outfit choices for events and the joys of using Rent the Runway. The episode also touches on the challenges of meal planning, the impact of AI on car design, and the evolution of automotive technology, all while keeping the conversation light and relatable.
Topics:
book tours
personal style
family dynamics
meal planning
AI in automotive
automated driving
grilled cheese recipes
Rent the Runway
candle preferences
We'll start with the bad news, Lizz is out for today's podcast. But the good news is Kate from Naptime Kitchen is BACK to take her place for the day! She's been living that book tour life but managed to find the time to join Kelly to talk about all the adventures she's had since becoming a published author.
Then, it's time to rundown Last Three Transactions. Kate had to break down and buy a new Apple watch since her last one broke and realized how much she misses having it on her wrist. She's also been transacting to get ready for her daughter's birthday and running by a local bakery to grab her favorite go-to quiche for a quick meal at home. Kelly is stocking up on pre-cut parchment paper that has been a game changer in her kitchen. Plus, another Facebook Marketplace haul and a major order from Athleta.
In Industry News, it turns out AI is NOT good at everything - specifically designing cars. Our dreams of flying cars might be on hold for a little longer as Hyundai announced it is halting his air taxi department.
Finally, in Ditch the Drive-Thru how to elevate your tuna melt and grilled cheese sandwich.
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Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly.
Everyone likes to tell me how toxic candles are.
Like, I can't post about a candle without being like, you would act like I'm sprain, like,
gasoline in my home with the messages I get about candles.
And respectfully, like, I just need you guys to just like, let me have that.
Like, let me have my candle.
I'm so sorry.
If you don't want to let them in your home, that's fine.
If candles are what takes me out, like, that's what takes me out.
And Liz, your mom time off, starts now.
Welcome back to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Kate, co-host alert.
Okay.
Y'all, Kelly was like, Hey, can you please help me?
You know, Liz doesn't have childcare.
And I was like, Kelly, I have been waiting for this moment, because you're on here as
a guest.
But, but I'm waiting my whole life for this.
And I would hit the pressures on because like, when you're a guest, like, you know,
you can kind of sit back, relax.
Like it's up to me to ask the questions, keep the conversation going.
We're equally responsible for keeping the conversation going.
I don't, I don't have questions prepared for you.
Like this is not, this is not necessarily a walk in the park.
Yes.
Um, and really like, I can't believe you said yes, because the biggest thing that's
changed since the last one we've talked is now your New York Times best selling author.
And like, I just couldn't believe you just like had a slot available.
Like don't you have like best selling author things to be doing today?
Like that was just crazy.
So, so grateful.
You made the time.
You would think, but actually you become a best selling author and then you still like
wake up and make your children's lunches and just clean your house and do your laundry
and all the things.
So the book's been out now almost a month.
Almost a month.
Yeah.
And I find it fascinating how I'm not tired of the content.
Thanks.
Like it's just, it's just like, it was, it was the pre, you were writing it,
you were, it was the pre-order.
It was the podcast.
Now it's out.
Now it's the book tour.
Like you're just keeping it so fun and fresh.
Are you enjoying author life?
I am.
This part is very fun.
Like I'm really, really trying to soak it up.
It almost reminds me of like when they're, when you have your first baby and everyone
is so excited and everyone wants the news and then, you know, no offense, but it's
like by the time you have your fourth, they're like, Hey, just text me.
Like let me know.
Yeah.
Like they're not coming to the hospital.
I feel like this is my first and I'm just so it's like it's just never going to be this
exciting again.
Like even if I were to write another book or do another book tour, like it just won't
be this like excitement around the first one.
And so I'm really, really trying to soak it in as best I can while also being like
equally very tired during the process.
Um, I mean everyone, I mean, I know a lot of people my personal life who have
now got their hands on the book, everyone's loving it is there.
And if you haven't got it, it's you need to go order it.
Cause right now it's instant gratification.
Cause you can probably just like get the audio book right away.
You could get the Kindle version right away or you can get it on a day and a
half and on Amazon.
So if you like couldn't stomach the idea of like doing a pre-order now is
the time to just get it in your hands today.
When do you hit the libraries?
How does that work?
I'm in the libraries.
You're in the libraries.
Yes.
That was really fun.
We actually told people ahead of time, like you can request the book to
your library.
Like that's something people do.
Um, and then they were like, some people were like, I'm number 15 already on
my library's wait list and I was in like a place that would have been like in
like Columbus, Ohio.
And I would be like, Oh my gosh, you know, you just don't assume that
there's like even people following you outside of your geographic area.
So you're like, well, um, yeah, I feel like it was such a, it's such
a unique, I'll call it a genre of a book because it's not technically an
autobiography.
It's not technically like a self-help book.
It's not technically, it's not fiction.
Like it's just this like combination of it's about you.
It's about your life, but you're inspiring.
You're learning, you're being relatable.
You're a great storyteller.
Like it's just like, what is, what is this?
What are you calling this genre?
I know.
Well, it's funny because they put me in the religion section probably
because I worked with a Christian publishing house, but I, which
I'm fine with, but at the same time, I kind of wish they didn't just
because like I would never want, I think that if you do not share the same
faith as me, you would still like have a hundred percent get out of the book.
Yeah, that's shocking that they would put you there.
Yeah, I think it's because I'm through a Christian publishing house,
but I would, but I think that the struggles that I have are like
universal to other, other people, no matter like what you believe.
And I think that you would find, you would feel yourself like seen
and understood in a lot of ways, no matter what your faith is.
But on the New York Times, I'm self-help like that's my classification.
It's so funny, too, because on Amazon, you get into all these
like different ranking categories and it'll be like, number one in Christian
women's self-help, right?
And then there's Christian women's issues or self-help or like there's so many
like subsets, it's kind of funny.
That's kind of how the podcasts are, too, because like our category is
leisure and then we're like, but then we're so we like, we're like,
we don't rank as high in leisure, but then we rank like so high in auto,
but like auto is a category in leisure.
It's it's the same thing.
It's yeah, you know, it's just like everyone loves a label.
Yes. Well, how is so now you're on the road, like you're touring.
Yes, your book touring.
Yes, I'm doing 10 stops.
I've done three.
So I'd started in Charleston and then I just did two in North Carolina.
And my kids, like my whole family came with me to that stop.
And that was really fun, like for them to really all four of them.
And people were like asking them to sign their books, you know.
So Alberta is drawing like a heart into people's books.
Gosh. And then this upcoming weekend, I'll do Charlotte,
Greenville and Birmingham, which in my head, we're like close together.
They're really not very close together.
And I'll do those with my mom.
And then I'll do two around the D.C.
Charlottesville area with one of my best friends.
So fun.
Yeah. And then I'll do Augusta in there, which isn't too far from Charleston.
So we spaced them out kind of so that I would be gone for a couple of days,
but then be home for like five to six days.
Just I don't think I could have mentally done a lot in a row.
And then also just for the sake of our kids, I was like,
I need to come home and then leave and come home like just, yeah.
You know, and I think like one thing that everyone's talking about
is how good your outfits have been.
Thanks.
Did you hire a stylist?
I did not hire a stylist.
I do.
I have been trying to get better just in my life.
But my aunt and my cousin, like my aunt and her daughter,
have been just helpful, especially with like, I feel like I can.
I can really hone in on one part of an outfit really well.
But I very much struggle with like, OK, what shoes do I pair with this?
Shoes are the hardest part for me.
So sometimes I would text my aunt and my cousin, me in like five out
like the same outfit with five pairs of shoes.
And I'm like, yeah, which one and they will help me with the footwear.
And then I there's like a couple of outfits that I have like splurged on.
But then rent the runway I am doing for the first time.
And I am loving it.
I don't know if I would do it forever.
Like I don't know if I would be able to be like,
do I have enough going on in my life?
But for something like this, I mean,
like my outfit last night or two nights ago,
two of my upcoming outfits in the next week are all rent the runway.
Will you outfit repeat or will every book tour get something fun and fresh?
Everyone gets something fun and fresh.
Yeah, that's so hard.
It's like my one chance.
I'm telling you, you've really honed in on your personal style.
Like I feel like I'm going to start like looking.
I feel like I'll start sending you stuff
because I think I could pinpoint like, oh, this is so Kate.
I think the dress you were the run the run the runway dress.
I think you had last night.
Was stunning on you.
Thank you.
I'm like, dang.
Thank you.
And I feel like, you know, it's good with especially with rent the runway
because you start to realize like designers that you're like, OK,
this designer fits me well.
I know what size I am.
And then like, for instance, that was Ola Johnson, who is not cheap.
But I was on rent the runway.
So I was like, OK, this is wonderful.
If I want to I'm wearing a dress of hers next week.
And again, I rented it.
And the best part was like the events over.
It's like wrinkled.
I've been in it all, you know, the whole time.
And I'm like, and I just get to return this dirty.
Totally. I know.
So the whole concept I have had a very good experience with so far,
especially for like, and I think I was telling my sister a lot.
I feel like you get the dopamine hit of getting to wear something really fun
and like maybe like a little outside your box or like colorful
or something that if you weren't like four to five times in a row,
you might be like, OK, yeah.
I feel like I've been wearing this a lot.
But on rent the runway, you just kind of get like all the fun of it
and then you return it right off.
It's yeah, I'm obsessed.
They've been really good.
I should get on that because I have so much trouble in October.
I have to go on like four or five trips in October.
My least favorite.
The trips are fun and they're only like one one night.
I think I have three one night trips and then one, maybe two, two night trips.
It's going to be every week that I'm gone.
And yeah, it's like what to wear.
It's like truthfully, it's just it's just one of the hardest parts.
And I hate packing clothes.
I hate packing clothes like that.
The worst.
And I haven't used it, but rent the runway does have like stylists
that you can be like, I'm wearing this outfit.
Can you give me shoes that you think would be good?
And they don't like help you do that.
I just like love when you're like shopping like J Crew or wherever.
And they're like, do you just want this whole outfit?
And I'm like, yeah, you know, like I love I like when they do that
with the kids close to because I love matching.
I love and I think I think we kind of like to dress our kids the same way, too.
What one, like, you know, whatever, like not we like to try to dress our kids the same way.
But I love like the bright mixed prints, like like very like fun colors.
And it is sometimes so hard to like put those outfits together.
So I love when I'm shopping on like Bowdoin or Hannah Anderson or even like Gap.
They're like, do you just want these leggings that go with this shirt?
I'm like, yeah, I do.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So couldn't be easier.
And then also, I do think a huge part of my struggle right now is because of just the
like free for all that shoes are having.
So I'm doing an ad for anthropology and I'm so excited.
It's for the Colette pant, which I love.
And I just got my first collect pant.
Oh, they're amazing.
They're wonderful.
Unbelievable.
I was like, you know what?
I love with this.
I love it.
I'm just going to see what shoes they put the model in.
And I'll just get those shoes to wear with the outfit.
So the model is in like a super cute like vest that matches the Colette pant,
like a very stylish look.
And then on the bottom, this was red.
This was like a red look.
But then on the bottom, she is wearing half calf socks and sneakers, which I'm
like, OK, I get because it's like it's just kind of that like raw trendiness.
But I was like, if I wore this, like, I mean, it looks like I could go to a
business meeting.
That's how like, you know, slim, stylish put together the top two pieces are.
And I was like, OK, I get what they're trying to do here, but I would feel like
a total fool like it would look like I just forgot.
Like I was running and I forgot to change my shoes.
And so I'm like, come on, anthropology, like throw me a bone.
What shoes would you actually wear with this?
No, the shoes are out of control.
I'm so tired of it because and now that I think like, you know what
days I miss, I miss the days and I know people can still wear this.
And I'm and Elizabeth and I talked about this literally yesterday.
I miss the days of skinny jeans and riding boots.
And like that was the only option.
Like we just wore skinny jeans and riding boots.
And now we've developed all these new jeans, which in a way, I think have
been good because there's so many like people can now really wear the jeans
that are the most flattering to their body type.
But now that leaves with the questions, like now I have.
So now I have certain shoes that can only go with certain cuts of jeans
and vice versa, like it's egg.
It's exhausting.
Yes, I agree.
And like what are we supposed to do in the winter when we have these jeans
that aren't skinny and then I don't want to have exposed ankles?
Like I totally get how these cute Mary Janes are fun for now.
But what what is my what does my January look like?
And that is where we are different, because I was just thinking
I owned a pair of riding boots and like never got to wear them
because we would just sweat.
Like we would like so desperately want to put on the riding boots
and you would have like a panic attack because you would you were so hot.
But I'm living my best life because in January,
I am in like Mary Janes with my ankles showing because I live in Charleston.
OK, yeah. So it is you should move here.
We actually have different realities.
Yeah, no, because we get like we probably get your win.
We like the the days on the calendar
where it makes sense to wear a pant in the Mary Jane.
I'm telling you, it's like 12 days a year.
Or it's like, I mean, it's just like we have such extremes here
in the Midwest, like it's so hot and then it's winter.
That's so interesting. Yeah.
OK, well, that that makes sense. I'm sorry.
I thought speaking of like shopping and outfits,
one segment that we have planned for today is to do our last three transactions
where we share our recent bank accounts of transactions. Yes.
I would love to know why don't you kick us off?
Like what's one of the last three things that you bought?
OK, one of the last three it's a hitter is
well, an Apple Watch because my Apple Watch broke.
OK, and I have not had it for like a week.
And I don't you know, I don't know if you're an Apple Watch person or not.
But I have felt I have felt lost.
I have felt I don't know where I am in space.
I never know what time it is.
My Apple Watch tells me what's next on my calendar
because it just shows like what's next on a calendar.
And so I have just been I feel like an astronaut
that is untethered from the spaceship and is just floating.
And it comes today and I am thrilled.
Yeah, I don't I've I wore an Apple Watch
back when they first came out when I was selling cars because I was like,
oh, it'll be so nice because when I'm on the lot,
like I can get the notifications from my customers.
And I didn't like how tethered I felt like I didn't like that.
My phone was constantly beeping.
I do think I have considered getting back to the Apple Watch game
because one for two main features.
One, I'd love to ping my phone because literally where is my phone?
Yes, that's the other thing like where is my phone?
I'm always going on my laptop to do the find my opinion.
Like it's exhausting.
And I also would love to get a more accurate step count in a day.
I agree, because I just don't like I don't carry my phone around enough
to feel like it's accurate.
So I've considered now you can probably turn off notifications.
Like if I don't want to have text notifications
or like Gmail notifications on my Apple Watch, I don't have to do that.
You can turn them all off. Yes.
But it is funny.
I was like, is this what everyone else feels like
that doesn't know how many steps they've taken because I like to know
how many steps I've taken.
How many do you get in a day?
Like without trying, it is it is so incredibly
like what's the word I'm looking for up and down.
Like one day I'll get like 4,000 and I'm like, OK, that wasn't great.
And then I can get like 12,000.
But 10,000 is harder than it looks.
That's what Elizabeth told me, because Elizabeth is an aura ring
and she's like 10,000.
It's a long walk and a lot of activity.
Yes, 10,000 is hard.
And where do we come up with 10,000?
And what does 10,000 mean?
I don't know. It's a good point.
Like, why couldn't we switch it to five?
Well, it's just so much more doable.
OK, so that's a good one. I might, like I said, I'm considering.
I'm also trying to decide if I'm going to get a new iPhone.
My camera, I think that the I think that Apple sabotage is me
because like my camera, just my camera is so foggy all the time now.
And it's like it doesn't like Elizabeth and I have content phones.
So if we film content that has a shared iCloud,
so she we can like easily find our footage and edit it.
My content phone literally couldn't have a CRISPR cleaner camera.
My phone, like I literally hold them up next to her
with both the cameras on and I'm like, how is one so much better?
And I've adjusted the settings.
I've done absolutely everything.
What is your content phone?
It's an iPhone.
Like I'm telling you, it's the same iPhone.
It was the same. It's the same iPhone.
Oh, well, it's the same iPhone.
But mine's the bigger size, my personal one.
I'm telling you, there's something messed up.
I think Apple is just like, they just know I'm going to cave and buy it.
But I'm not buying the air and I need to decide.
I just think like they're getting there.
The cameras are kind of becoming almost too much, you know?
And I get that they're trying to they hear what they need to come out with is.
Like, I'm not a photographer.
Like, I don't need a foot.
I need really crisp, clear video like come out with the influencer phone.
Like, enough of us are doing it. Yeah, I don't need 12 lenses.
I don't like 12 lenses because then it's like changing the depth of the video.
Like, while I'm recording, it's horrible. Yeah.
And you use a nice camera a lot, right?
No, we've stopped. Oh, you've stopped.
Now we just use our iPhones because it's so much easier to keep our footage
because like now Elizabeth and I are so organized that like when we film,
let's say like the Ford Bronco tour, then on the content phone that we share
to share the cloud, me, Elizabeth and our website editor.
We have a Ford Bronco folder.
So any video we've done at the Bronco, any photo we've done at the Bronco,
any car set we've been in the Bronco can all be found in the folder.
So it was one of the best businesses we did.
But anyway, one of my recent transactions I literally shared about last night
is I had to read by the parchment papers.
Always. I mean, I know it's like if you don't know what we're talking about,
you can buy parchment papers on Amazon, the 12 by 16, they're pre cut
and you just pull them out.
And it's the most I use at least I use them once a day.
Yeah, I had someone stop me on my book tour and was like, Hey,
I just have to ask you the pre cut parchment paper.
Like, is it really that big of a deal to just like bring out parchment paper
and do it? And I was like, well, it's just like about it's like anything
in life that you can make more convenient.
I was like, once you just reach down and pull that sheet out
versus like getting out the whole thing and like trying to see if you got
the right amount for your pan and I was like, yes, it's it really is
that much easier and it's not like it's so much more expensive.
No, you know, I use them where I like it.
The best is when I'm we eat a lot of meat, grill a lot of meat.
So I love to put it on a cookie sheet, put my raw meat, season it.
And then when I put my meat on the grill, I take the parchment paper off
and now I have a clean pan.
Yes, like that I'm telling you, like that is enough.
I'm obsessed and I just it lasted me exactly one year.
So. Yeah, you really are.
It's 14 bucks for for one year.
Yeah, I know I really am.
OK, another one of mine is my daughter,
Millie is turning seven on Friday.
And that was another big, big part of the book tour.
I was like, I cannot be gone on the 19th.
I have to be on the 19th.
And we I took her to this was like one of the best things I've done.
Her birthday was coming up.
It's in the middle of my book tour.
I'm like, I'm overly stressing about it
because it just felt like this like big thing of like,
what what does Millie's birthday mean?
Because also, she is not having a birthday party this year.
We don't you don't get a birthday party every year in my house.
It's like we do them on certain ages.
So I took her to coffee and I was like, what?
Like, tell me about what you would love to do on your birthday.
And she was like, I would love to have ice cream Sundays and watch a movie.
It's a Friday night with like two friends in the name
that both live in the neighborhood.
And I was like, OK, OK.
And then I was like, what what does an ice cream Sunday mean?
And she told me to ice cream flavors and she told me three toppings.
Like the most in my head, I was like, OK, I need mini M&Ms.
I need crushed Oreos.
I need this.
And she was like, I would love it if there were sprinkles,
whipped cream and chocolate sauce.
And I it just was so much easier than I had like lived it up to be.
Right.
And so it was like, OK, I need to go to the store
and I need to get cookie dough ice cream and strawberry ice cream.
And then I need to get these three toppings like that was what.
And then I was like, what about the pizza?
And she was like, I would love Papa John's.
Like I was like, OK, it could not be easier.
So all of a sudden, this thing that just felt like really big was like,
actually, this is not a big deal.
Like this is so easy.
I can do this.
And so the next day I needed to go to the grocery store.
And I was like, her birthday is not for a week and a half,
but I am just going to go ahead and I'm going to buy these two flavors
of ice cream and these three toppings that she wants.
So I guess that's just to say sometimes just talking to your children
and finding out now somebody I told this story on Instagram is almost like
way still Alberta says she like wants a trip to Europe like totally would.
But it's like funny when you're like,
their like desires are so much easier than what you would even think.
That's so and like, I love that you brought her into it.
Made it a conversation.
That sounds delicious.
Like what a great birthday party or birthday.
Yeah. So that's that's so fun.
You know, how do you how do you has a big birthday next month?
She's turning five big.
So it is big and yeah, it was it was a different answer.
You know, it was this, that and another thing.
And it is she she gets this, that and another thing
because five is a big birthday.
And then George is like going to be seven and seven again,
isn't like a big birthday for us.
And he's like, well, I'm going to do that too.
And it's like, no, you're not.
Sorry, yeah, they are different.
And we had Johnny turn eight and I'll and Millie turned five
in the same year, which is five and eight or two of our big.
It's like one, five, eight and ten is kind of what we've landed on.
I'm going to steal that. I like that ten is a is a trip.
And so Millie had a birthday at home
and John Robert wanted to go to Topgolf.
And I remember thinking like, OK,
when we got like the cost for Topgolf, thinking like,
oh, wow, this is like not cheap.
But let me tell you what,
you think that an at-home birthday party is cheap.
And then you like rent the bounce house
and you get the Chick-fil-A platter and you get the juice boxes
and you think about how you have to clean your home
and you get a cake and you're like, I would do Topgolf
three times over for all the hidden costs
of the at-home birthday party.
It can definitely it can definitely escalate.
Yeah. And we don't I don't know when we're going to get here.
But like the way that we do birthday parties
and maybe this is where I live and who we hang out with,
like even George's birthday,
like if I'm invited and we have a lot of family friends.
So like if I'm inviting kids,
it's like they're bringing their husband and all of their kids.
So like next thing, you know, I'm feeding 40 people.
Yes. I'm like, oh, my gosh, like this is.
So I've started with Hattie's birthday.
I think I'm going to be like, it's two to four.
We're having cake.
Like this is not I'm not having a birthday party
over a meal time anymore.
Like this is just crazy.
This is so much work.
It's so much work.
OK, one of my last transactions
is I had a Facebook Marketplace run this morning.
Very exciting.
Like I just like I'm so loving Facebook Marketplace these days.
And you got to be careful because the only it's
it's the most sensitive algorithm out there.
I talk about this a lot.
But like if you stare like and I still come up,
but I stared at a reborn baby doll too long
that was for sale because I was trying to figure out what it was.
And now like that's what that's at least 25 percent
of my Facebook Marketplace feed is reborn baby dolls
or their clothes or their accessories.
Like Facebook just I'm probably about to do it
because at this point it's like they do look kind of cute.
Maybe I will take one and now I know what they're going for.
So it feels like a good deal for when I do it.
Not what I bought, though.
I bought a lot.
I love lots.
They just make it worth the drive.
I bought a lot of boat in clothes for Hattie.
Oh, OK.
That's a big that's a steal.
No, I got eight pairs of leggings for eight dollars a piece.
And they were so it's every color
and it was every color under the rainbow.
They were her size.
They were great conditions.
She's like they were worn lightly.
Like there's no holes, reps, tears, stains and what?
So those are I got eight dollars a piece.
So I got 60 dollars for eight leggings
and they're easily twenty dollars a piece.
Yeah. So I was very excited.
And then I love going whenever I'm buying something from a seller,
though, I will always go look at like what else they have.
And she separately had a boat in tunic listed
that was also in Hattie size.
So I said, hey, add the tunic.
Yeah.
So I'm jazzed about it.
Jazz and I was very inspired by your person
that you had on that did Facebook resell.
I still just have not gotten there.
I think by the time I get to the place
where I want things out of my house,
I like want them out of my house.
And I remember her saying in the episode,
you really do have to be OK to hold on to things
and like wait for someone to want to purchase them.
Yeah, which is where I'm not.
I'm like, I got to get this out.
No, she says like she just posted that
in her names, the marketplace mom on Instagram
that she just sold something that had been listed
for like a year and a half.
I know. I'm like, oh, my gosh.
I'm like, where's your storage?
She keeps. So she keeps a bin.
So she has a bin in a closet.
It's like if you have a closet and a bin, like I could.
That's great.
It's great. It's like clothing.
And I do like even if you're not maybe if you're.
Even if you're not the most like money motivated person
because several times she's saying
like she's selling things for like three to five dollars,
what you know, still adds up.
But I do think it's such a service to like list it
and get it into get into hands of someone who needs it.
Because I mean, that I mean,
Bowdoin's a little different because those are expensive,
but like she knew what she had and I was so happy that I didn't.
Like I I was going to buy her some Bowdoin leggings.
So the fact that I just got to do it for eight dollars a piece,
I was so grateful that she just listed them together,
made it so easy on me.
I even try to negotiate. I just paid it.
Yeah. Speaking of personal style, I look at Bowdoin
and I like want to be a woman that dresses
like I do in a Bowdoin catalog.
I don't know why I'm not, but it's like I just I'm like,
I think it's so aspirational, but it never it never ends up on me
at looking the same way.
Well, it's a lot of dresses. Yes.
It's a lot of dresses.
Their pants don't come in tall sizes.
Like that's really hard for me.
I definitely like the Bowdoin kids.
Yeah, so cute.
It's so cute.
OK, my final transaction,
which honestly is almost like a ditch to the drive through.
And we have talked about this before we talked about this
on the last take them a meal when we chatted.
But I just cannot say enough about buying a quiche
from your favorite. Sure.
Bakery, I haven't just it's not.
I don't even have that busy of a week,
but I just feel very physically drained.
And I just got back and I'll like leave again this weekend.
And for me to I'll go buy a quiche and it will be a great
like it might be like spinach and feta or, you know, whatever.
And then I will eat it for lunch every day with a bagged salad.
And just it is such an elevated, delightful lunch.
And, you know, sometimes I go at the quiche is like twenty five dollars,
which I feel like you're like, oh, twenty five dollars.
This is like eggs.
Like why should I want to pay for this?
But I think I'm going to do it myself.
I'm not in twenty five dollars for like five days of lunches.
Yeah. Is is a pencil.
It pencils.
I need to see.
I love the passion in your voice when you talk about this.
I need to find my local bakery with a quiche.
I have not. Yeah, I don't have one.
I don't have one.
And an average quiche is tough because I can make an average quiche for sure.
So I need to really work on sourcing that.
You need the one where you're like, wow, this crust, this is a real crust.
And I, yeah, I like a lot of ingredients, too, because I mean, I could do
a ham and cheddar. I want I want a feta.
I want maybe a goat cheese or like some roasted
thundered tomatoes, like I want something.
And I also think it's a good.
Yeah, because it's not.
I think sometimes we forget to.
Meal plan for us.
Like it's all about like, you know, what am I going to feed the kids?
Like getting the kids lunches, getting the kids breakfast, getting the kids
dinner, and then we deserve to have like, I love that Kate eats a fancy lunch.
It's like, well, I'm home alone during the day while the kids are at school,
like working. And so that's when I could like kind of have my moment in the sun.
Yes. And eat your food where nobody else is like, I didn't like that or I don't want that.
It's like, I don't care. It's actually not for you.
Yeah, for me. That's a really great idea.
I'm going to put that on my list of things to source today.
I've just got to find one. I know I've got to find one.
Okay. My last transaction was I am so excited because I'm working with a dream
partner of mine, which is athletic.
Yay. Yes. So I did one athletic activation.
Now I'm doing my second athletic activation and I one thing about working
with athletic and the capacity that I am, though, is they do make you buy your own
product and then which is fine because then you get the commission and they
give you a floppy. It's fine. I'd buy it anyway.
But I just placed my athletic order for my upcoming activation.
The only sting that I kind of told my manager, I was like, no, but like,
I'm promoting the sale, but like, I don't get to do the sale.
Oh, yeah. That is a saying.
You know what I mean? So like athletic, I don't know if I can say it,
but like it is going to be, they're having a sale coming up, but they're like,
hey, you have to buy pieces for the sale. It's like, well, can I get the sale price?
Yeah.
Do I have to, no, I'm like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
But I mean, I love, love, love, athletic.
So I just, I can't wait for my order to come in.
Can't wait for my order to come in.
And they support your tall girl, lifestyle.
They support my tall girl lifestyle.
They also just like run a little big, which is just,
I just feel like every brand should do that.
You know, like there's nothing worse than a brand running small.
So like I'm normally like getting normally like my true size is probably a medium,
but sometimes I buy smalls in Atlanta and that just, it's just, it's like a fun,
it's just like a fun thing to feel.
It's such a cute girlie.
Yeah. It's just like, so that's like, that's fun.
And they have, I love, love, love,
athletic fall and winter because, you know, the summer, the summer is just,
the pieces aren't very exciting.
Like, you know, it's a tennis skirt and a tank top.
Like that's just all you're doing.
But this is like jogger, long sleeve tee, trench coat, hat.
Like it's just like, it's a, it's a fit.
Yes. It's a fit.
I did live my escort girl summer.
Like I just embraced my escort lifestyle.
I love that.
And so I am feeling a little lost going into fall of what is my new escort.
But do you guys have, I, but like how long, how long will it be hot there for?
Well, it's funny because we're getting like cool weather.
We're, aren't you all getting like kind of unseasonably warm weather?
Yeah. We're unseasonably warm.
Okay. So it was 100 degrees yesterday.
Yes. We are getting like the weirdest cold weather for September.
Like everyone is rejoicing.
We're outside. We're like what, it's, it's bizarre that it's 65 degrees outside.
So yeah, Nate was telling me there's like some sort of weird pattern that's like,
we're getting cool weather.
You're getting warm weather when y'all should be getting, you know,
but I mean, we'll get like, it'll get chilly.
And because we're so weak, we will feel like it's really cold.
Like I'll be wearing a winter coat because I feel cold,
but you would be like, this isn't very cold.
Okay. But we'll get into like the 40s.
We'll get into the 40s.
And like when do you, like when would it be appropriate to like make a chili?
Like what, is that like not a November?
That's not a November thing.
Yeah. Probably November.
Cause unfortunately, Halloween is like very hit or miss.
You're like, should I buy my child a long sleeve outfit?
And then the year you do, it's like 80 degrees.
They're sweating.
So Halloween is always like, it stinks when it's a hot Halloween.
You're just like, this feels wrong.
Yes. We go through the, yes.
We go through the same thing.
Okay. That makes me feel better, but y'all have that.
Yeah. November gets a way more consistent.
Okay. Well, that was fun.
Yeah.
I'm glad we've been transacting a little bit.
We haven't.
Okay. Next thing I wanted to do with Kate is called,
is our base model luxury where we share a recent new discovery.
Yes.
And this is something, it might be an item,
it might just be a vibe, it might just be a thing,
but it's something that's just like elevating your daily life.
I'm going to start, and this is like, so,
this is like not a groundbreaking one,
but it really is something that's,
I'm very much like trying to kind of like ease into fall.
And I just love, I love trying to cultivate that vibe,
even when the weather is not there yet.
Okay. I'll just say is like the two things that I,
the two things that I did is I got out my fall tea towels.
I think that there's,
I think it's so easy and so fun to have a seasonal tea towel.
It's the changing of the guard.
And it's just, it's the tea towel that you,
maybe you just keep out, you use it.
I mean, I use it.
It's not like no one's allowed to touch it,
but then I wash and I put it back where it goes.
I like though, like to really kind of commit to the bit
and like I put my summer ones in the closet.
Like they don't sit in the drawer
because I think it's like so fun to just bring out.
And you could so, I actually got,
we got a great gift for one of our wedding presents
was someone got me a tea towel for every holiday,
which was just like fun.
So like they gave me like a cute 4th of July, a cute Easter.
So like I had all of these.
And then I have of course like my date,
my date, like my other dish towels,
but I bring out that seasonal one.
The problem is now, have you tried geometry towels?
Okay. No, but yesterday I was like, I need to try this.
I feel kind of passionate that I really like
the ones that I have,
but I think I need to trust you and try this.
For all I know this is going to be parchment paper.
And just like you thought about it and you love it now,
maybe I will be like, Kelly, I've been wrong.
I apologize for not trusting you more.
No, that's okay.
Not just kind of hurt because I feel like anything you,
I don't even, if you tell me to buy something just like,
I'm like, okay, sure.
I don't ask a question.
Now I would say I did not,
I wasn't very passionate about my towels.
So I could see how like maybe I just,
I was just using like a classic like target one.
I don't know.
But I think that they're excellent.
I think that the Amazon,
like the thousands of Amazon reviews they have will back me up.
I'm going to order some today.
I'm going to send you one.
Wow.
Thank you.
I'm just going to do that.
I'm going to text, I'm going to text my,
this isn't right now and say send Kate a geometry towel.
Please.
And I'm even going to pick it.
Thank you.
Okay.
Should I go for my base?
Oh, sorry.
I have a, I have a part two to mine.
Okay.
My part two is that I've also been,
I've brought out my seasonal candle.
Now I'm sorry.
I like candles and I get like,
I don't know why like people,
I mean, I, I don't know why.
Everyone likes to say,
tell me how toxic candles are.
Like I can't post about a candle without being like,
you would act like I'm spraying like gasoline in my home with the messages
I get about candles and respectfully,
like I just need you guys just,
just like, let me have that.
Like let me have my candle.
I'm so sorry.
If you don't want to let them in your home, that's fine.
But like if candles are what takes me out,
like if that, like that's what takes me out.
We have a candle lit in the kitchen right now.
And I'm like, if candles are wrong,
I don't want to be right.
I'm just with you.
Yeah.
I'm just going to train my body to filter those toxins out.
I just think I like fragrance in general.
I just like fragrance.
I like fragrance and like I've,
I've stopped using the dryer beads.
Like you guys yelled at me for that.
So that's my, I'm, I'm not using that.
I'm using unscented soap.
Like that's, I use branch basics on my counters.
Like respectfully, like let me have my candle.
And I like bringing out a fall candle.
Now I don't do a sweet,
I don't like a sweet pumpkin set.
I'm so specific.
I'm more of like, what's like a sweater,
weather, fallen leaves, crisp, you know?
Like I don't do, I don't do the,
I don't like to do sweet scents.
I like to do sweeter scents in the spring surprisingly.
But anyway, so I have my fall candle.
I have my dish towels out.
And it's just kind of like totally
changed the vibe of my kitchen.
Yes. Wow. Okay. I love that.
Cause even when it's like hot outside, you know,
yeah, we can just, we can cultivate that vibe inside.
Well adjacent to the dish towels,
I actually bought, recently bought new bed sheets
because rifle paper company did a collab
with the company store.
And I, I shared them on Instagram.
Oh my God. I saw these yesterday.
Yes.
Please go on this tangent.
This is such a good one.
They're so pretty.
And there, I have just realized,
I interestingly enough at anthropology,
when I got to work with them,
I got to, you know, buy some stuff
and I bought some floral bed sheets,
like colorful bed sheets.
I put them on my bed and all of a sudden I was like,
this provided so much like color to my bedroom.
I, I, I don't like make my bed fully.
I like pull my sheets up and then fold them down
so you can like see the lip of the sheets.
So do you put them on backwards then?
Yes.
Or upside down?
Or yeah.
I put them so that when you fold them,
you see the press.
You see the pretty.
Okay. Yes.
Um, that's like funny because that's how I was taught
and I'm like, no, no, Nate, you're doing it wrong.
And he's like, why do you do it this way?
And I'm like, this is the way you do it.
So that when you fold it, you see the pretty side.
Yeah.
But, um, it's like, and our,
we have a one story house and so we,
I go through my bedroom to get to my office.
So I see my bedroom a lot during the day.
And the difference in having like a bright or just seasonal
or pretty bed sheet.
I'm obsessed with this tub.
I'm obsessed.
And I think that there was this huge phase of the white bed sheet,
like hotel living, crisp, white bed sheet.
Love that.
But my walls are like a cream color.
There's nothing in my bedroom that's like overly colorful.
And so the bed sheets just all of a sudden bring this
like really fun element and I can,
you can change them so easily.
It's not like I'm committing to a comforter or a duvet.
I'm just like, and so the ones I got, they're floral,
but the colors like definitely pull autumn.
Like it's like, yeah.
No, I'm looking at it right now.
They're, it's called the Lottie, right?
Yes, the Lottie and it's, and they did multiple
like rifle paper company did this big collab.
Kelly will link them for you, but they are,
and it's so funny because I just posted a picture
of Alberta in the bed and then I got so many of like,
what are these bed sheets?
And it's just a small thing.
You're so right.
It's, you're so right.
It's such like, it's so fun.
I know.
Oh, they're selling out.
Oh, Lottie sold out.
I'll have Lottie sold out in my, in a king.
Okay. Well, there's lots of others.
There's lots of others.
Yeah. I'm going to do this
because I agree.
I just have all the whites and I like my,
I like my duvet cover, but what if I got printed sheets?
And it's such a, like if you were to like in two years
be like, whoa, totally over that phase.
It's like you didn't wallpaper your bedroom.
It's bed sheets.
Like it's so, it's such an easier thing to change.
And so that has been just like this fun.
Like I just walk in.
That has kind of been like my,
my changing of the tea towel.
Like I'm like, oh, they just feel kind of fall,
but they're not like over.
I could wear them anytime a year.
Like it's not like they have Christmas trees on them,
but they just feel kind of fall.
And that has just made me happy.
Also, yeah, I'm obsessed.
My mother-in-law kind of had something similar.
She, she was, and this is like an even easier way to do it.
She's really into pillowcases.
So she does something really cute.
Like whenever our kids go to our house to nap,
she, she has bins of pillowcases.
So like they have their pillow and she goes,
go pick out what pillowcase you want for your nap.
And it's so precious.
And then she got, she was getting rid of a lot of pillowcases
because she has so many.
So she like gave us a lot of the pillowcases
from the kids childhood.
And like, let me be clear,
they don't match the kids beds at all.
Literally, who cares?
It's so fun. George is like, you know,
so when we do sheet change,
I'm like, go pick out your new pillowcases
you want on your bed.
And it is just like so, so fun.
And so you could just so, like so easily just start,
when you go buy pillowcases for even cheaper,
so you could just buy your kid a Halloween pillowcase.
And like, you know, their beds does not have to be,
their beds don't have to match.
Like my kids' rooms look like they're, they're busy,
but they're, but they're their rooms.
And when they're older and they want to,
they want to do that, they can.
And like, I just like, I'm not going to stress myself out.
No, I love that.
Our kids also, it's like,
I bought them matching bedspreads.
They are in the closet and my girls are using like fleece prints.
Well, they, two of them have Lola blankets
and they are, they sleep with their Lola blanket.
And then the other one's like a fleece princess blanket.
It's like they're, it's so ugly.
It's so colorful.
But I'm like, you know what?
That's like what they love.
That's what they love.
That's awesome.
So, okay.
So we're going to quickly move into industry news
and then we're going to dish the drive through.
There's not a ton of stories happening,
but I thought this one was kind of interesting
and it kind of bring it up one more topic
I wanted to talk about.
And that is, this is from Motor Trend.
And it says, car design, AI can't design cars worth a damn.
So AI, here's my issue with AI.
I thought it was going to be like this big, scary thing.
And I'm just so incredibly annoyed with it at this point
because I have been, and I think Facebook is the worst.
And I still, I told you,
I'm really big on marketplace right now.
So I'm still logging on to Facebook a lot
and like just scrolling like that feed.
And every single story on Facebook
is just like a fake AI story.
Or it's like they're taking someone's face,
making it look like they're crying
and like putting a fake story with it.
And like you look at like where the news force is from
and it's from this like random group.
And I'm just like, I don't even want to go on Facebook anymore
because now I know that nothing's real that I'm reading
and I'm just exhausted.
Like I guess I really thought it was going to be more scary.
And it's just, it's just annoying.
Okay. On a similar note, not scary.
First off, I loved Liz's episode
on what she was using chat GPT for.
I was like, it gave me like a lot of great ideas.
But on a similar note, Nate and I have laughed like multiple times.
Chat GPT has just keeps getting things wrong for us.
And so like this is very simple.
I was like trying to schedule my flights
for this upcoming book tour stuff.
And I was like, what time zone is Birmingham in?
And it was like central time.
And I was like, great.
And then I just really wanted to double check myself.
And I was like, okay, so what time is it in Birmingham?
And it told me it was two hours back from my time.
So then I looked at Nate and I was like,
wait, is central time two hours behind us?
And he was like, Kate, no, it's one hour behind us.
And I was like, okay, well, chat GPT is telling me
that it's two hours earlier in Birmingham.
And then I just quickly Googled
what time is it in Birmingham?
And it gave me the correct time.
Chat GPT gave me the wrong time.
I was like, what time is it currently in Birmingham?
And chat GPT gave me the wrong answer.
And I was like, how did you miss?
Like, it wasn't even a hard question.
That should have been a layup.
And it's scary.
I'm like, what if I had been like,
okay, that's what time it is in Birmingham?
Well, I agree.
And that's where I think like, I'm keeping my money on Google.
Because the thing is like,
chat GPT may have been the first, but like,
I think Google's Gemini is a lot better than it was.
And I just trust Google more.
So I have not, I like, I've never,
I have not paid for chat GPT.
I don't feel that need to do that.
And I've just been kind of on my Gemini grind.
And I just, I don't know.
Do you pay for Gemini?
No.
Okay.
No, I'm just like asking that things.
But I agree.
I think it's, it's just,
and I think there's going to be things
we're going to use it.
But I really was like,
I remember when it first came out thinking like,
this is so scary because no one's going to know
if the images they're seeing are real or fake.
And it's like, no, actually we all do
because to the media's credit,
which like I literally hate to credit the media ever,
but like they really do.
I think you can trust the trusted sources.
Like if they, if like,
if they're putting something that you're like,
okay, that's what the person actually said.
But I think it's kind of scary for celebrities
because I'm already seeing like,
Travis Kelsey said this.
And it's like, he just like,
they're just making up stories.
It's just these bots that are like
making up these stories,
putting a picture of his face with a quote.
And it's like, he didn't do any of that.
Yeah.
Like it's just, I'm just kind of like,
I'm just like over it.
Like I think it's just, I'm bored with it.
I'm honestly bored with it.
So anyway, but one problem that is happening in auto
is because people are falling for it,
which we're going to get smarter.
And certainly the generation below us
is going to get really smart
and just know what's real and what's not.
But they put out a lot of AI renderings of cars.
So like one thing that came out was like the excursion,
the Ford excursion,
which was like a very popular full size car
that they don't make anymore.
They're like, Ford's bringing the excursion back.
And it's like this rendered photo.
And it, I don't know, it looks really cool,
but it doesn't exist.
So you got to be mindful.
Yeah.
You got to be mindful.
Speaking of things in the future,
this is a story from Car Dealership Guy.
It says, Hyundai Motor temporarily grounds
air taxi startup.
And it just kind of reminded me like,
where are we at with air taxis?
You know, like why,
which is like, where are we at with flying cars?
Because I did think we would have
flying cars by now in a way.
And apparently they were doing it at Hyundai Motor.
So it says, but they're pausing it because
they are having a leadership shakeup.
And it's just not as big of a priority.
But it says when Hyundai launched Hyundai's EVTOL strategy,
it's signaled a major bet on the future of mobility,
taking flight in the air with the company announcing in 2021
that will be part of its $7.4 billion investment
in smart mobility solutions.
And I'm just wondering,
crystal ball, do you think cars will take to the air
or do you think that we're fine on the ground?
That's a great question.
I definitely was very much believing,
didn't they say the Jetsons was meant to be
or 2030 or something mild the year of the Jetsons?
Yeah.
I don't know how I feel about it.
I think I feel kind of scary about it
because I'm just like, do we have the tech,
not even the tech for the cars to fly,
but the tech for the navigation in the air.
That's the part that I'm like,
how are we going to navigate this well, guys?
First of all, the Jetsons was 2062,
so there is still some time.
Okay, okay, sorry.
That makes us feel good.
I'm aligned with you.
It just feels like another new thing we have to regulate.
And I just wonder, are we that far off from teleporting?
Because that actually would get me excited.
I would love to just teleport somewhere.
And I'm just wondering if it's like,
we can just skip over the whole fly
and let's go from driving to teleporting.
I'm going to be honest with you, Cal.
I think we're really far from that.
Okay, okay.
I think that's fair.
I also would imagine, like,
if they don't like scented candles,
like I can't imagine what they would say about teleporting.
Yeah.
Like putting your family through that.
But yeah, we're probably far off from that.
I would love to see a deeper jump
in everyone doing more automated driving,
but I'm personally not doing it, you know?
Oh, I'm excited.
It's pretty cool.
My car, like even if it wants to stay in the lanes,
it beeps at me if like my hand comes off the wheel.
Like it's like, don't you take your hand off the wheel though.
So it's like, trust us,
but don't you take that hand off that wheel, Missy.
Whereas I know some cars are like,
you can truly like sit back and drink your coffee.
Yeah, some cars will just keep your eyes on the road.
We'll take it from here.
Yes.
Yeah, I do think that you're right.
That probably is next step before we teleport.
And I think it'll be interesting to...
I think it'll be interesting
if cars ever like not even so much
that I want to like sit there and scroll my phone
while I'm on the road.
But I think what would be more interesting
is if then a car could drop you off
and then go back and get another member of your family
or like go get another member of something.
Like I think that's what kind of my...
It's been my dad's prediction that the thing with cars is they're such...
They spend so much of their life sitting
and like it's kind of like such a waste
that it would be cool if it's like
the car can take the kids to school,
come back, pick you up, take you to work,
leave work to go, you know, get the kids.
Yeah.
Like so that could just be kind of like families,
my people to get down to having less cars
if the cars could start coming back home.
Yeah.
I like that.
So I think we'll probably...
I think I'll probably...
We'll probably see that in our lifetime.
Maybe, maybe not.
Okay.
Next last segment, we have to do dish the drive-through.
We share an easy dinner recipe to mix it up
to get you out of your...
Dinner rut.
Thank you.
Look at that.
That was good.
I'm sorry.
I have something
and then if you have one,
I'd love to hear what you're doing too.
Okay.
But I feel like every six months,
I just bring up tuna on the podcast
because it's just like some of those things.
It just...
It just...
Every couple of months it comes across my desk
and I hyper fixate on it and then I stop.
But recently I have been making a tuna melt
and it is unbelievable.
So I just take tuna,
I take a little bit of mayo,
a little bit of Dijon.
I add a little pickle juice.
Okay.
I mash it up.
I put it on a bagel,
like a good bagel.
I put a piece of pepper jack cheese on it
and then I put it in my air fryer
for like three minutes.
Unbelievable.
You know, I don't actually...
It's hard for me to get behind warm tuna.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know, Cal.
But I...
I don't know.
I'm already trusting you the dish towels.
That might be the warm tuna.
I don't want to plant my flag on that for you.
Like if it doesn't sound good,
it doesn't sound good.
But it's excellent.
I'm going to have it for lunch.
Like I can't wait to wrap this so I can go make it.
I'll send you a pic.
Okay. Please send me a pic.
I...
Mine was kind of adjacent is...
And I've shared this as a real like last year.
But I just think that the grilled cheese sandwich...
Totally.
The way that...
Like when I make it...
So I'll make them for dinner
and it's like I'm making my kids like a grilled cheese sandwich.
Half of them don't even want a good bread.
They want like the crappy white bread
with like a slice of cheese.
But then I'm...
The cutting boards out.
I'm already doing it.
So then for myself, I will like use a better cheese.
I will slice an apple on there.
I will put like a fun...
I'll put like fig preserves if I have them.
I'll use sourdough bread if I have it.
Sounds so good.
I'm still using the same cutting board.
But I feel like I can have such an elevated
grilled cheese experience
while at the same time giving my kids
whatever version of a grilled cheese.
And if I'm cutting the apple for my sandwich,
I can put apple on their plates.
Like I can use all the same elements.
I love a meal that's on a spectrum.
Like I love a meal where it's like
you can do the most, you can do the least.
Like you can do it for the kids, you can do it for you.
I think that's like just...
I think those are really versatile
and important meals to have
when you have a big family
and just like different preferences.
And like, I mean, I just can't wait for the day my kids...
I kind of like really appreciate the cook
that I think I am some days, you know?
Because like right now, like they're just such.
My talents are so wasted, not wasted, of course.
But like, they don't know what I'm capable of.
And my husband, like it doesn't know what I'm capable of either.
But I'm with you. I would love.
Just like no one in my family would eat a sassy grilled cheese, but me.
Yeah.
But one day they will.
One day they will.
And I'm so excited to share that with my children.
Yeah, me too, Kelly.
We're in the same boat.
Well, George doesn't like cheese.
And I'm telling you, it's the most annoying thing.
He's just like so like...
He doesn't like cheese.
I don't know.
Each of my kids is different.
Johnny's like my best eater, but he doesn't really like pasta,
which is like devastating.
Yeah.
So it's like he, I'm making, I'm making him like meatballs on the side
so that he'll eat the meatballs because,
but he's like so not a picky person that I'm like,
I kind of just have to give it to him.
I'm like, you know, I feel like pasta, it's okay.
He'll eat like sushi or Indian food.
Whereas nobody else is going to touch that.
Yeah, that's, that's kind of how George is.
Like George is probably my best eater.
Yeah.
All my kids are pretty decent eaters.
You actually, your kids are really great eaters from what I can tell.
I've been pretty blessed with what they're all, they're all good eaters.
And so I think honestly, I think George's,
I think I feel George is the most because they'll all eat veggies, fruit, protein.
Like what else, what else can you really ask for?
All right.
Well, anyway, Kate, that's our episode.
Thank you so much for having me.
You haven't, you saved my butt.
That's for sure.
So thank you so much for joining the Carpool podcast
and we will talk to you guys next time.
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