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Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly.
Well, that's what I'm always saying, like, I'm sorry, as Americans, like, we just need
better.
We need to get more organized as a country on what our foods are.
You're so right.
Like, that's the best we can do.
And Liz.
Honestly, my life right now is so consumed about when the next time I'm going to eat
is going to be that, like, I couldn't have been there.
Your mom time off starts now.
Welcome back to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz.
And boy, do we have a show for you.
We really do, as we just had such a good interview.
We went through such a face of, like, so many interviews.
It's kind of been a minute.
And we just, like, kind of came back with, like, a big one.
Yeah.
Um, so on the second half of this episode, we have Madeline from Madeline Moves.
And she is a fitness influencer.
She also had three kids in three years.
Her oldest is only four.
Like her youngest just turned one.
So she's what you would call in the trenches.
Which I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I guess I didn't realize they were that close
in age.
Well, I think I thought I was like seeing like this.
I think I think her last two kids, I thought they were the same kid because they're literally
like the same age.
And she had three C sections.
Yeah.
I mean, it is, it's a great interview.
We cover it all.
And after the episode, she offered to give us a code.
So I'm going to tell you the code now.
The code is Carpool and it will get you the first month free on the Moves app.
Obsessed.
Obsessed.
She gave us like, Kelly works with the Moves app on her personal Instagram, but Madeline
gave us like, this is an even bigger and better one.
Um, because we were all just, she, we were all like so lathered up about just talking
to each other.
So we'll say, I don't want to give them, I don't want to give away too much, but and
she brings an iconic DTD.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But before that, we've got a lot to talk about.
Oh my gosh.
So much has happened.
So much has happened.
I went to the Chicago auto show and like, I'm back.
I'm sorry.
I know, I know was, I'm sorry.
I know that you're not.
I, Tyler was a rock star with the kids.
Tyler and his mom.
Shout out.
Like, thank you for just like handling it.
Um, they were amazing.
The kids were great.
I had the best time at the Chicago auto show.
I like sucked that well for all that there was like, I got, I hit every experience.
I did everything.
It was the best trip ever.
You went with Sam and went with Sam for mom and those car seats and me and Sam were just
like such long lost soulmates.
Like, so are you.
Like Sam is just, she is the fifth sister, like sixth sister.
Like she is just everything.
Yeah.
No, Sam is such a good, just now Sam's amazing.
I mean, I would say Sam's one of your best friends.
Sam's one of my best friends for sure.
So just fun when you guys, and you guys have been in the same room like five times, maybe
total.
I know.
And like Sam is such, I feel like she's such an extension of my brain.
Well, it's not my brain.
It's her brain.
But like, I feel more comfortable with her next to me because like one thing about, like
I know I'm really good.
I have great delivery.
I have great passion.
I'm very good at like energizing people.
And Sam is so smart.
So it's so fun when I'm like, well, you know, what about the head restraints?
And I'm like, I hit Sam on the shoulder and I'm like, cite that, cite that legislation
you know about.
Yeah.
It's just so fun.
Yeah.
And she's using like terminology.
Yeah.
We're borderline unlikeable together because it's like we're so there for the answers.
Yeah.
But we went to the Chicago Auto Show.
There wasn't like a ton of crazy major reveals, but I went because Brightax was making history
by being the first car seat manufacturer to ever unveil a car seat at an auto show, which
it's giving.
Are you kidding?
Like no car seat manufacturer has ever thought to show up to an auto show.
And we were there for one of the public days.
The booth was slammed.
Was it?
Every car, every car seat manufacturer should be here.
Yeah.
It was such like, it's like, duh.
Well, especially now that it's hard to see all these into bye bye baby one way.
It's like, it's hard to see all the car seats.
Like, yeah.
Why don't they just go to the auto shows?
There's auto shows in all the major cities.
Why don't you guys pull up with a booth and well, you know, you know, one auto show,
you can find a ton of car seats as the car or motto show.
Get your tickets.
That's in a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
That's kind of a big goal for us this year.
So like try and, you know, get more car seat brands involved so we can like.
Well, and I will just say like off the record, like the auto show, the car motto show was
kind of the name on everyone's lips.
Like I had a major car manufacturer come up to me and like asked me for the date because
like they want to be involved.
Wow.
That's so crazy.
And I had multiple people like from Chicago come up to me and like tell me they will be
making the trip.
Wow.
Like at the rate we're going, we're going to need to have our own media days.
I don't know if the ice rink is going to cut it.
No, I also don't know.
Yeah.
Um, so anyway, it was just a great trip.
I did post way too many reels, but.
And I appreciate it.
Well, I appreciate all of you guys looking out for Elizabeth's well-being.
There probably were a few that could have been posted the following day, but I was just
kind of like in the moment.
You know what I mean?
Well, when you're in, when you're like dressed up in the gala, like it would have been weird
to.
You can't save those ones.
You can't save those.
And I get it.
I actually.
Six and one day was a lot.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
I do understand your rationale behind them all though.
And I'm just happy you were having fun and creating content because sometimes when you're
having so much fun, it's really hard to remember to also capture it.
And so I'm just thankful that you did capture the fun you were having because I know I personally
was like refreshing my phone constantly to see if you or Sam were posting.
Well, and it was just, you know, I didn't set out to.
I didn't set out to.
Post six times in one day, but I didn't know I was going to get such amazing content.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm actually I if it on a regular day when we're filming at the dealership, you can't
post that many times.
There's a special event.
It was timely.
I approve.
I had such FOMO, but I'm so happy I wasn't there.
So Maddie was gone this weekend for Marine drill stuff, so I couldn't go.
But like, honestly, my life right now is so consumed about when the next time I'm going
to eat is going to be that like I couldn't have been there because that had been like
I have to door dash me like Portillo's right now.
Like how and I would have had to leave.
Like I would have been really annoying.
You would have brought us down.
I would have brought you guys down.
It's like I had FOMO, but like you're there right here in that phase.
I'm not in that phase.
So I was happy to sit out.
I was hungover the next day.
Like I can't tell you this time I've been I don't drink anymore.
I can't tell you this time I was hungover.
I know I faced him Kelly the next day like 7 a.m.
because I'm like why haven't I heard from her at 7 a.m.
Like and I'm such a riser.
She should be awake with her coffee by now.
And like you look like a train wreck.
I know like today even wash my face like I don't even know.
Like me and Sam had a blast.
I'm so happy.
Yeah.
So no way that was the auto show.
Speaking of shows.
We watched a Super Bowl last night.
First of all was the worst Super Bowl game I've ever seen in my life.
It was like I already don't think football is fun to watch.
And that was like watching paint dry and I only watched the first half.
So I didn't I didn't enjoy a lot of my experience watching the game.
Commercials.
The best one was the Pepsi commercial.
Like I don't think that's a hot take that's all that I need to go and rewatch.
I was like we had friends over I was talking I like didn't really watch.
Okay.
Let me just say what happened with the Pepsi commercial.
It was two polar bears were at a concert.
Uh huh.
Polar bears are formally drink.
Oh they formally drink Coke.
And then a camera like a kiss camera caught the polar bears at a concert.
Like the Coldplay concert drinking Pepsi.
It was just funny.
It was like very it was it was funny.
It was a good one.
Okay.
I didn't yeah I just I wasn't the game was so boring.
And that was sad and I had been into football and like I was ready to watch it.
I was cheering for the Patriots.
But I'm happy for the Seahawks and I'm also happy that like the Seahawks kind of
like kept their tradition of whenever a new Pope is elected.
Whenever there's a conclave the Seahawks from the Super Bowl.
If I'm a Seahawks fan like I just don't want you to know like I do believe
Pope Leo is only 65 so like it will be a while.
Yeah.
Until you guys have another Super Bowl but that's something of note.
But I mean the best part was the halftime show.
Now let me tell you something.
I was excited.
I was excited.
I was blown away by it.
It was it felt like a Broadway show.
It was it was like a lot of like I liked all the sets.
Like it was a lot of production.
I feel like the last couple ones haven't been so like like you were really
transported to a different to a different place.
It was a music video.
Yeah.
It was a music video.
Yeah.
I mean like because I've seen like people's POVs from the stadium
and like it looked like a snoozefest have a show from the stadium.
Totally.
Okay.
I could see that because it was kind of it was like a maze.
Yeah.
It was a maze.
So and like why were the bushes people?
Why weren't they just props?
Like I thought that was so funny.
I kept waiting for the bushes to start dancing and they never did.
I'm like wait I don't think I noticed that.
I need to rewatch it.
The bushes are all people.
Really?
Yeah.
It feels expensive to hire that many people to stand there.
Well I guess but maybe it's like it's like maybe they could only like maybe
the cleanup was easier because instead of like then someone having to come in like
they just ran off.
It's like walk in walk out as a bush.
I don't know.
I just would like I would have liked the bushes or maybe the bushes were moving
and we just didn't see that.
Like maybe they were moving to like different backgrounds.
The bushes are people.
It's insane.
All right.
I need to go rewatch it.
His outfit was amazing.
His outfit was perfect.
I'm always so I always love seeing like people's take on the uniform
because I think that's what they try to do a lot.
No notes.
The outfit was perfect.
I actually felt like this was the first one in a really long time where like any nod to
football has been made.
Like he was carrying a football.
He had a football jersey on.
Like I love the monochromatic.
Like it was so such a good outfit.
Such a good outfit.
Lady Gaga.
I was like has Lady Gaga ever done the Super Bowl?
No.
And like she could like Lady Gaga is of the same.
I mean she is she is easily a Super Bowl artist could easily one.
I would agree.
And she's just like there for the vibes like obsessed.
She looked amazing.
I love when she doesn't go weird because she is like I love that she was like singing.
I loved the wedding scene.
I found it was a real wedding.
I did really.
That was the wedding scene.
I really liked, you know, because the first I don't like all the it's like, you know,
kids are watching.
I don't like all the booty bump and that was like in the first part of it.
But then the wedding scene, I was like, oh, this is really sweet.
I like this.
There's kids there.
There's a flower girl.
Like it's very cute and family friendly.
Yeah.
It felt like it felt like a wedding.
Ricky Martin was there.
Also, can I just say something one more thing about the wedding scene?
It's like anyone who sees like a wedding cake and like a wedding, like everyone like that
makes everyone happy.
So like just seeing people dancing at a wedding, even though it's fake, made me happy.
Like I enjoy it.
But it wasn't.
I know they actually got married, but it was not a real wedding.
It means like reception is what I'm saying.
Things that relate to wedding receptions.
Like I just, you know, and like I loved like the kid like was asleep on the chair and like
then bad bunny like woke up the kid.
Like that's so funny.
It was just, it was just relatable.
Yeah.
It was just great.
And I really enjoyed the music.
I've all more and I've been like this VIP VIP.
I mean, I'm into it.
I'm going to listen to bad bunny on my way to the dealership.
Yeah.
I'm here for it.
I loved it.
And you know, I, I kind of, if I could make a critique on parts when he was just like
speaking and saying things, I could have used subtitles.
I would have liked to have known what he was saying.
Well, and that is true because it was Spanish, but no, that is true because it was also,
and he was saying a mate because now I've seen it.
Like when he was looking at the camera, he was like, I never stopped believing in myself
and you shouldn't either.
Like I could tell he was saying very positive and uplifting things.
I don't think it would have been too much to ask to just like put that on the screen
so everyone would know.
Okay.
I think that's a fair critique.
I don't think you need it for all the, the lyrics and everything because I understand
like lyrics don't always translate exactly, but I would have liked subtitles for the
speaking parts.
But see now I've kind of gone on like a bad, bad bunny rabbit hole and no pun intended.
That's hysterical.
Am I the first one to make that joke?
Probably not.
That's so funny.
Um, and he was saying like, no, a lot of like people who speak Spanish can't understand
him because I guess Puerto Ricans like have a specific accent and a lot of his music has
like a lot of Puerto Ricans slang in it.
Okay.
And I think he's just maybe a little hard to understand.
Okay.
Oh, and then like Jessica Alba was like underneath all the people.
There was like that area of all the stars and it was like Alex Earl, Cardi B, Pedro Pascal
and Jessica Alba and it just made me realize like I need more Jessica Alba in my life.
She's stunning and she needs to be coming across my desk more.
Yeah.
She has to not want to come across her desk.
I feel like Jessica Alba probably is just like, I'm good.
Didn't she found the honest company?
Oh, I think you're right.
Yeah.
I think she's fine.
Like she's, she's, she's a retail queen.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like I think she's like so okay that she's like, I don't need to come across her desk.
Yeah.
She's too rich to come across my desk.
Anyway, I really, I thought the vibes were high.
I loved it.
Yeah.
I can't stop smiling just talking about it.
I thought it was so fun.
I know.
Yeah.
It was, it was really fun.
It was.
I agree.
The beginning was a little booty popping, but I've seen worse than a Super Bowl.
I, I agree.
I have seen worse.
It was just like the juxtaposition of like, I was like, oh, this is a lot of booty popping
and then the weddings, you know, like almost, I mean, to be fair, they had something for
everyone because some people prefer that kind of choreography.
But I, and I think in previous Super Bowls, they haven't had a sweet innocent wholesome
moment.
So much so that we're talking about it.
It's like they had this very sweet wedding scene with a flower girl.
Like that is so unique.
Never been done before.
And it just, it made, it brought me joy.
I didn't let my kids watch it because I just like, you never know, like anything live.
I'm just like, not sure I'm ready for it.
But I would say, and I don't think like they need to watch it.
I just think that's fine.
But I've seen way worse on the Super Bowl stage.
I agree.
I thought it was great.
I thought it was, I mean, the only thing more powerful than love is hate them is love.
Like great obsessive message.
Let me see.
I wrote notes.
Did I have anything else to say?
I did like his outfit.
Do you think we fell into the house that was prerecorded?
I think that was live.
No, that was definitely prerecorded.
I liked that too.
Yeah.
I liked that.
It was a music video.
Like just upload the whole, it was a music video.
You know, I rewatched it this morning on YouTube and there were ads in the middle of it, which
there were multiple ad breaks in the middle of it, which was so annoying.
Yeah.
I mean, YouTube, Tyler's a YouTube plus member because Tyler only listens to music on YouTube.
Yeah.
Like he makes his playlist on YouTube.
He's such a grandpa.
He's insane.
Like he has playlists on his YouTube.
So you pay for no ads.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I need your login.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, let's move on.
Okay.
We kind of like need to get to our interview because then we kind of have some things to
do.
Okay.
But there's just like, oh, you go ahead.
Well, I would just say like, I can say this for another episode.
I do have some low lift luxuries, but like if there was something else you wanted to say
or like get to.
Well, I can say my thing for other episodes too.
Okay.
I don't know what your thing is.
Mine are just low lift luxuries.
Okay.
Well, let's hear.
I would love to turn them apart.
Okay.
Number one, the other lately, like in the morning, I have to have something to eat and like kind
of sweet carbs have been what I've been gravitating towards because they're like easy and they're
just there.
So I bought muffins from Trader Joe's like from a proper muffin thing.
And I have a cake stand that I keep on my counter and I understand that sometimes you don't
always have space for a cake stand on your counter.
But if you do, I just like put the muffins in my cake stand.
No, I hate to admit that's such a good one.
And it was like such a like every more I would go and I would open my cake stand and I would
grab my muffin.
And then like the other day I made chocolate chip cookies and I just like threw my chocolate
chip cookies in there.
I keep it out because when I do make sourdough, I keep it in there because it just like keeps
the sourdough fresh because it like is a proper cake stand.
It was it was a luxury experience pulling my my raspberry muffin out of my stand.
No, I'm really trying because, you know, you always make fun of mine.
I'd love to tear that apart.
That's actually a really good one.
Now, we'll, you know, if you put something too good in there, like my kids weren't interested
in these muffins, they could see them.
There's kind of that risky run that like people can see them, especially kids.
But it was a luxury experience for me.
My next one, this one you might make fun of me for, but it has really elevated my life.
We eat every meal in our dining room.
Like we don't have a kitchen table.
We have our kitchen tables in our in like our formal dining room.
So not that my kitchen, my kitchen is right there, but like I'm not physically in my
kitchen when we're eating.
So I have just put a paper towel holder on my dining room table and it lives there.
Yeah.
Because you always need paper towels and I've actually even upgraded and I also, I have
I have a lazy Susan in the middle.
So I have salt, pepper, my paper towel holder and I also keep baby wipes in there because
you always need a baby wipe to clean something up, wipe hands off really quick.
And I haven't done this yet, but I could go as far to like put a little silver tray
thing on there and have my and have some silverware on my dining table too.
Well, you should just get like a hut or something because you need some more furniture in that room.
You should just like put something in there.
Yeah, I don't have I like, you know, I'm such like a consignment shop girl.
It's just like finding the hutch.
Yeah, it needs to come across.
That could be nice.
But the paper towels was a big game changer even more so just having baby wipes on my
dining table full time because my kids also like will do like play with Play-Doh and like
play with kinetic sand and stuff like it just it comes in handy throughout the day.
Yeah, those are really good ones.
So I just I don't have a little luxury, but I just want to like I'm just trying to keep
everyone's like finger on the pulse that lent as a week from today.
Good Friday.
Sorry, Ash Wednesdays week from today.
And I am going to be giving up the sugar for 40 days.
Okay.
And Elizabeth sent me a reel of someone who like was also doing it and they read this
book called The 40 Day Sugar Fast.
It's giving made for lent.
It's giving I'm not the only one to think of this idea.
So it's on Amazon.
I just bought it for $9 and it's a 40 day spiritual and physical journey combining a sugar detox
with a faith based transformation.
Mm hmm.
Okay, faith based transformation.
Okay, faith based transformation.
It sounds perfect.
I know that's what you're after.
That's why you're doing it.
I know.
Yeah.
It said, would you give up sugar to experience a sweet presence of God?
That's a little kid.
Hey, hey, that's cute.
I am going to do it.
I'm presence of the Lord.
So I'm giving up any artificial.
What is the word that you said to me earlier?
Refined and processed.
I'm giving up any refined and processed sugar in every capacity and I am going to switch.
I'm not even going to do ice honey lattes.
I'm just going to because I just think like that's part of me thinks like if I have too
much like sweetened with things, it will not, it will be harder to cut it.
I feel like when you give up sugar, I'm not saying I'm not going to have any honey.
So I don't want to say that, but my goal is to not have sweet things because like to
me, I think that's the problem.
I think like, I think when I have a little bit, then I want more.
I think that's how you kind of get like a sugar addiction.
So anyway, I need to be sell it.
I need to figure out how I'm going to celebrate Fat Tuesday because like it's got to be kind
of major.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
We need a better Fat Tuesday food because like as much as I would love to like buy a
pancake like King cake is so gross.
Well, that's what I'm always saying.
Like I'm sorry.
As Americans, like we just need better.
We need to get more organized as a country on what our foods are.
You're so right.
Like that's the best we can do.
Maybe we could be a little bit more united in that way.
Like I'm just saying like Thanksgiving, I think is good.
I like our Thanksgiving food Christmas.
We've talked about this has no identity.
Mm hmm.
What else was I talking about?
Super Bowl has Super Bowl has good identity.
Super Bowl has great identity.
Like Buffalo Chicken Dip is an American classic and like we're I don't like that.
We're people are not even people us.
We're always hating on that.
That is a delicious food.
That is the best food ever.
Mm hmm.
Um, oh, I was talking about New Year's Eve how we have nothing on New Year's Eve.
Like our big thing is Black Eyed Peas like we need help.
No, our biggest thing on New Year's Eve is alcohol.
Like please come on.
Please.
Like where are like why don't we have these like traditional recipes that the other guy
mad about it and like we have good American food is good.
Like for example, I love a meatloaf.
I love a chili.
I love all these foods.
I'm just saying like we need to like be more united as a country where it's like oh on
Fat Tuesday.
Well, you know, we should have a Fat Tuesday.
You know, we should deliver to the rest of the country.
Huh.
Gooey Butter Cake.
Gooey Butter Cake.
That's a good Fat Tuesday.
That's a good Fat Tuesday one.
Hear me, hear me.
The new Fat Tuesday food is Gooey Butter Cake.
That's a St. Louis specialty.
And you know what, St. Louis, we have a good food scene.
We have food.
We have St. Louis only food.
I just would like our country to be more unified and I'd like us to all eat Gooey
Butter Cake next Tuesday.
Okay.
I agree.
That's a good one.
I don't, I don't eat Gooey Butter Cake enough.
And if you, you can make it.
So I don't know the recipes.
I never made it, but I can imagine.
I won't be making it.
I'll be buying it at the grocery store.
I'll be buying it because I can, but if you don't live in St. Louis and you want
Gooey Butter Cake, it is worth your time to get a recipe and make it.
Just trust me.
Just trust.
Just trust.
We need to try to find, I'd love to have like a St. Louis like bites at the auto
show.
They will do that for the VIP night.
I think we did do that for the VIP night.
We did.
That sounds like us.
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Okay, the last thing I want to cover before we get into our interview, if you don't mind.
Sure.
There was a Carpool thread, and I want to briefly answer this question in vague terms.
There was a question of wondering how our salary, how my salary is set up.
And so many people were curious, and I get that.
It's like, please, I'm so curious about what people's things are.
I know it's taboo, but I would love to know what everyone in my life makes.
No, I know.
I get it.
I totally understand.
So I'm going to kind of briefly divulge kind of what our setup is because it's actually
kind of hilarious.
So when Kelly started the car mom, I was kind of helping her with it because we're sisters
and whatever we talk.
And then there kind of came a moment where it's like, I was hating my job.
I was loving the car mom.
We were so energized on it.
And it was like, I want to do this full time with you.
And with that comes a conversation about finances.
And Kelly and I always said, we're going to, if money ever becomes an issue with us, if
it ever causes any friction in our relationship, I am stepping away from the car mom.
I will not do it because no amount of money, no amount of fame, nothing is worth losing
mine and Kelly's relationship or putting a bad anything.
Harming our relationship was not worth it.
So we always said that from the beginning because you know, when you work with family,
sometimes things can get sticky.
So basically like Kelly and I were like, I don't own any of the car mom.
It was very important to Kelly to fully own the car mom, which I don't care.
That's great.
I agree.
I love the car mom, but that's fine if you want full ownership of it.
It was your idea.
But we said, okay, Liz can have this percentage of everything.
And everything when we started was nothing.
When we came up with this, it was, there was no money to be talked about.
And originally, but originally you asked for like, you wanted just a higher percentage
of like the more direct things you were involved in.
I was like, give me 50 or give me X amount percent of YouTube because I'm like so involved
in that.
And I don't need this because I'm not working on that.
But I said no, and that was actually Tyler's idea.
He's like, no, I just feel like the way you guys are conversing, like even if she's not
directly doing it, she's indirectly doing it.
So all's to say is Liz gets a percentage of everything.
And we have never once revisited that percentage.
We've never talked about it.
We've literally never brought up the money again since 2021.
Yeah.
No.
And like every month when I, every once we close out and when I close out the month
and I give a little bit of her percentage, I'm like, oh, that feels right.
Yeah.
It's always felt right.
So it's grown and it's been more and it's always felt right.
And we've never had an argument over it.
And actually Tyler's always been like my biggest supporter because Tyler does like he's very
good with spreadsheets and finances.
So Tyler does close out the month and everything.
And Tyler has always been like the biggest supporter of mine and making sure that, you
know, we're good.
It's all fair and everything.
No, like if I accidentally like we were to buy something on the car mount card, like
for our house, like he would like then trans I bought like something for like $100.
He would then, he would make me pay the car mom back.
So like I wouldn't be shorting Elizabeth even a cent.
Like he's so passionate about that.
Yeah.
So he's cute.
That's it.
That's the story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And okay.
So with that, we still have a whole interview to get to.
So it was just like such a good episode.
I know.
And like I have more to say, but I'm going to save it because we still have a great
interview.
All right.
Well, we will talk to you guys on Friday.
We're going to talk to Madeline moves reminder.
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Welcome to the carpool podcast, Madeline.
Madeline, welcome to the carpool podcast.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here.
Honestly.
This is like such a long time coming.
I mean, I've been following you.
I think you've gotten me through two pregnancies and two postpartum journeys.
We've been responded for sure.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
So if you guys don't follow at Madeline underscore moves on Instagram, she has got
to be by far my favorite fitness influencer out there.
She's a mom of three, three.
Did you have three in three years?
You did something crazy like that.
Didn't you?
Yeah.
Don't do the math.
It barely, barely works out, but I have a four year old now.
So she just turned four.
I can no longer say three kids, three and under, but we, we cranked them out pretty quick.
So you're still in the thick of it though.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
What's the, what's the breakdown of your kids ages?
My daughter just turned four.
My son just turned two.
My other son just turned one.
So we have three birthdays in three weeks.
So all of that just changed, but it was three, one and infant for the past year.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's wild times, but honestly, it's been so fun.
Like I would never have put myself in this scenario.
Our third was a complete surprise.
I got pregnant at four months postpartum, but I'm like seeing the little silver
linings like every day.
Yeah.
What car do you drive?
Oh, okay.
We have a Lexis.
Oh my gosh.
My husband's going to kill me.
It's a GX.
Okay.
LX.
It's the LX.
Is that right?
Sure.
Maybe depending on the year.
That'll work.
It's relatively new.
It's, it's green.
I can find it in any parking lot.
It's like, it's very much stands out to me, but it also is a little bit tricky with our
current configuration.
I think I texted you having a small identity crisis, but we have my son in the third row,
my youngest son, and then we have two kids in the middle cause it's a bench and it just
requires putting my son in the trunk, which is keeps you limber, you know?
It's all part of it.
All part of it.
So that's why you work out is what you're saying.
Honestly, yes.
Loving my kids in and out of my car is the finisher of every workout.
It is funny.
Like sometimes when I do consultations, people will be like, but isn't that going to be
like really hard to get them in there?
And I'm like, no, you're like, three kids is really hard.
Like that's just kind of a button there.
There's no easy buttons.
No.
Putting three kids in car seats is never easy.
Madeline, I want to, I want to hear your entire backstory.
Madeline has an app that we use to work out.
No, you're kind of like your girl, your woman in tech.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
Yes and no.
I have like two other apps on my phone.
I am a grandma posing as a woman in tech because I love workouts and I love sharing
them.
And this is how you have to do it.
But don't be too, don't be too fooled by like my ability to talk code or anything like
that.
We have a team that has really made the app what it is, but I do have an app.
We have spent quite a bit of time working on it.
We built it from the ground up in the past two and a half years.
So it's a completely custom experience.
But my passion is for sure the women in the workouts.
The app is the mode of which I get to share those for sure.
Sounds like you have four kids, really.
I mean.
Oh my God.
That's fine.
You're underselling it though because I've used a lot of these workout apps and this
one is so user friendly.
I appreciate it and I'm sure we're going to get into it.
But there's so many different variations that you can use and you really prioritize like
you, I feel like no matter where you're at in your fitness journey, like your workouts
are perfect because it is from like, okay, what do you have in your living room all the
way up to like, okay, like, are you ready to like, you know, take it up a notch and it's
it's such, I mean, I've used it for years.
It's such a good app.
Thank you.
That really means a lot and you're exactly right.
Like our goal is progressions, but if we don't allow you a starting place, how can you expect
someone to do that?
So we've really customized the journey to support women at different phases of life
at different fitness levels.
And we're really proud of what we're doing day in and day out.
So it's, it's super special to know that it's touching your lives.
And I like, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I know I need to shut up.
Let's go ahead.
I just, I think, I think we, you might be getting ahead of yourself a little bit.
I want to go back.
Madeline has 700,000 plus Instagram followers.
She has an app.
You've been clearly doing this for years.
I want to hear your story, how you got started, how you've kind of ended up where you are.
I want to hear all of it.
Okay.
Yeah, I'd love to share it.
Probably starts, you know, even before college, I played sports in high school, mostly soccer.
I went to college in Florida.
I studied exercise physiology, kinesiology.
I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do with it, but I knew I loved movement.
I loved helping people.
I didn't know exactly where it would take me.
I ended up graduating after playing collegiate soccer and teaching physical education for
four years and coaching soccer.
And I loved it.
I taught K through eighth grade at a private school.
And I did some personal training on the side, but it was really like education and movement
and kids.
And I absolutely adored it.
And during that time, I sort of lost myself personally coming out of college, like super
involved in competitive sports, always surrounded by women, that team camaraderie, and then like
it all changes.
And I had a hard time replacing that or finding that I dove headfirst into marathon training
because the running community was super strong where I lived, but it was sort of just a way
to keep going with what I knew and loved from college.
And I sort of burned myself out in running post college.
And I just needed to like strip it back to my roots of what I knew, what I'd been trained in.
And that was adding more strength training to my routine.
And that journey kind of allowed me to share as I transitioned from a ton of running and kind of
wearing myself into the ground to supporting it with strength training and then kind of
felt so much better.
I was recovering so much better.
My energy day to day, my dude towards my husband, like everything was better when I sort of
balance things out a bit.
And I shared that journey online.
I started posting on Instagram.
My husband bought me a domain for a blog.
He was like, I love hearing about this from you, but can you like tell some other people to
like get this message, not just me every day.
And I started writing and blogging about nutrition and workouts.
And it slowly turned into a PDF that he helped me with.
Again, I'm very not technical.
So he did all the filming, all of the editing, all of the creation of the website in the
backend.
And we started selling it.
And pretty quickly, I realized that my teaching could, the salary that I was making teaching
could be replaced or matched with this online business.
And I would never have believed it, but my husband was like, no, this has legitimacy.
Like you should keep taking it where it goes.
And for a year and a half, I did both.
I did both the online and teaching.
And then I was able to transition full time when we launched the app, which started off as a SAS platform.
You basically kind of use the same technology as other people, but make it look your own.
And then we did that for a few years.
We really grew a strong organic following in a base of enough people that we could invest into ourselves and create a custom app.
That process was a big learning experience.
It took us like a year and a half to build and we've been on it for about a year and a half now.
So we own it all.
It's, it's, whoa, we want it to be, we can invest in it and create the outcomes that we think are most impactful to our community.
So it feels really right, but it was definitely a big learning process and investment.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's so impressive.
And I love how involved your husband has been because like hearing you talk about it, I can just tell that like, you're just so in it for
the fitness and the feel good and the people and like you're just like letting other people help you with the business because like that's what you love is the fitness aspect.
That's truly the only reason that I am still like literally sharing the workouts on Instagram every day and still like DM people back every day because I love it.
And because of my husband and the team we've built, I've been able to protect it and not get too pulled into the areas that I don't have a background in.
I don't have enough experience in, but like they supported me in ways that I love what I do.
And, and I hope it shines through, but I truly love it.
Kelly and I always say that too.
We always say like, you know, we have to surround ourselves with people who are smarter than us in other areas because if we're not thriving in the areas that Kelly,
especially that like she's great at, then like there's nothing to post about like there's nothing to share.
You have to like be smart enough to surround yourself with people who are going to excel in those different areas.
Totally.
Some of the best advice and some of the women on our team are also moms.
So they really get it, but they just encouraged me to like remember what you're irreplaceable for and like hone in on that and then let other people like you're saying support what you're really kind of less needed.
And, and we can take this all so much further if you're able to like harness your energy and the things that only you can do or, or you love to do.
So that's totally.
How has your content and your, your stuff on your app and everything, how has that changed since you've become a mom?
Yeah, everything about my life has changed since I've become a mom.
I think it just like has naturally spilled over.
If I had tried to not include that in my journey, it just wouldn't have been authentic to me.
So I didn't come out with a prenatal program until I had actually been pregnant and we got asked and asked and asked for that.
And I just was honest.
I was that I think other people can do it better right now.
So I really allowed the journey to kind of reflect my own, but in ways that are also really professionally backed.
So it's not just because I was pregnant, but we worked along multiple pelvic floor pts to make sure it's just as accessible for different people.
But yeah, the postpartum program after I had kids, it's just, I recognize the constraints of being a busy mom.
And I don't think you fully can until you are one.
And so, you know, recognizing that the alternatives in the app are so important because you literally might just have dumbbells in your living room and that should be okay.
That should not be a source of frustration for you to have enough of those or just different durations.
Like I literally have maybe 30 minutes while this baby naps odds are it might get cut short, but to see an only 60 minute workout version that's defeating.
So making sure that there are woven in abilities for people to modify and continue to get great workouts in.
It's just like a, it's a non-negotiable, like we have to do it and we want to do it because that's the only way I've been able to stay consistent with it.
And can you tell us about the different programs that are on the app?
Because I love the postpartum, the postpartum program.
And I think we were DMing about it, but I was so like, I was feeling like really good after one of my kids.
I guess it was Libby.
And I wasn't like ready to like totally like, you know, bounce back or get the body back, but I wanted just to move.
And I felt like your program was so gentle and encouraging.
It's just like you would do one of your postpartum workouts and you'd be like, okay, like things. I did that.
Like you did it versus like sometimes when you're freshly postpartum, you start a workout and you quit halfway through because it's too hard.
And it was like almost more important mentally for me to like complete a workout successfully than like get a sweat on or something.
Like I was just trying to like do something for myself.
So tell us about your different programs.
Yeah, I agree with the postpartum one. It's probably the one that's been most personally transformative.
And it's just about building back that confidence with yourself and that translates and trickles into movement and, you know, patterns of movement.
But it starts with just the ability to follow through on something when so many areas of your life are in just total disarray.
So I love that it felt accessible to you and built.
But yeah, we have foundation programs if you're just new to lifting or have taken a long time off, but it doesn't necessarily mean you just had a baby.
We have a weekly ongoing program. That's our most popular. It's weekly moves.
It's it progresses in ways that make it really easy to get stronger, but there's also enough novelty and difference week to week that I think people are just so itching to see what the workouts are
and to do something new and to be mentally stimulated that they come back for a really long time.
We have people who have done that program on repeat for like five years in a row.
And they just never felt the need to do anything else because it changes enough, but it feels familiar enough.
We have some hybrid running programs that are relatively new.
A lot of people are wanting to get into running, but they know the importance of strength.
And instead of like trying to fuse multiple programs together, we lay it all out in one, which is cool.
There's a 5k program, a half marathon training program.
Those are kind of our most popular, I would say the weekly, the foundations, the pregnancy and postpartum.
We have both. Those are very, very popular too.
Yeah, Madeline, how are you getting your meeting your goals, getting your workouts and doing all the things with three very young kids?
I've become a lot more flexible on parts of my day that can flex.
I really like to wake up early and to have that as kind of like a protected time to the degree that it can be.
It's a worth the sacrifice for me to get up a little bit earlier.
When my son was newer to the world, I would just bring him down with me.
I didn't try to like assume that I would get 30 minutes of unbroken time.
I would just literally bring him down with me.
And if he needed to be held while I did some lunches, whatever.
But as sleeping patterns have become a little bit more consistent, I will wake up pretty early to do it.
But then if it just doesn't happen, I'm like, okay, how can I play with my kids throughout the day?
How can I bring dumbbells out to our driveway and like, we'll just get this done.
We'll go to the park.
Like I'll do some pushups on this park bench.
Like that happens too.
Getting out of the mindset that if you miss that perfect window of your day, it just can no longer happen.
But just sort of seeing pockets of times as like possibilities.
We're doing a heart month initiative right now and I didn't get to do.
We're just challenging people to run a mile a few times a week and I didn't get to do it when I wanted to do it, whatever.
But like later, I just had never changed out of my workout clothes.
I had 20 minutes that all my kids naps were overlapping.
I just went down and did on the treadmill.
So just kind of like screwing a perfect schedule and being more open-minded to like letting things compound
and letting little things be worth doing instead of diminishing them in our mind, I think is important.
It's almost like a game like, oh, when do I have it?
Yeah.
Oh, I have it now.
Like this is exciting.
This is awesome.
Yeah.
I think there will be times in the future I can work out alongside my kids a little bit better.
It's a little on the verge of dangerous.
And sometimes I feel like in our gym setting, so I kind of tried to protect the time versus like weaving them into it a ton.
But I see moms on Instagram who are doing our workouts with kids that are slightly older and I'm like, oh, that day will come.
Totally.
It's all the hard.
I mean, I have two kids, toddlers, and I just like totally and I'm pregnant, totally feel in the thick of it.
And I'm like, I used to be the girl that would work out every seven days a week for an hour.
And it's like, it's such a, it's so weird.
And when it's like, I haven't been to the gym my entire first trimester because it's just, it's so, it is so hard to do.
And like the expectations, I think I need to do a better job of like you said, like letting go of the expectations of what my workouts used to look like,
because it's going to be years and years and years and years until I'm working out seven days a week for an hour.
Probably never again.
Yeah.
I need to change my expectations.
And I think that's okay.
I think being slightly frustrated, but also action oriented is like a pretty decent place to.
Yeah, I love that.
It is, it is okay to be slightly frustrated.
Like, let's, you know, you don't have to find like so, so much acceptance that you give up.
If you will, like, I think it is okay to want those things.
And yeah, I like the idea of just like, you're finding the pockets, you're doing the best, the best that you can.
And I think when you become a mom, at least for me, like my reasons for working out really changed because like prior, it was, I mean, when you're 22,
I'm sorry, you're working out to look good.
Like, I'm like, there's, it's just like, you're not, you don't have kids get that much and everything's working in your favor.
Right.
Like when I was 22, like my mental health was great.
I had all this time.
Like I was working out.
Now I'm working out and well rested.
Like now I'm working out like, because if you just, if your only goal is to like look better, well, like that's, that's going to take a long time.
So like you have to like find, and you have to find workouts.
To me, like the biggest thing was like, I had to find workouts that gave me the satisfaction of, okay, that felt good for my head.
That felt good for my body.
That feels good for my kids to see that.
Like I'm healthier for my kids.
Like, and I had to find workouts that did that for me.
And I felt like the, the moves app, it's just, it's very approachable.
And I can't tell you like, if you guys can't conceptualize it, like basically like you'll have your workouts and then you'll like look at the workout and then it has like alternatives underneath it.
And I also really enjoyed like, there was one move that I was pretty postpartum.
I don't remember what it was.
And I looked at that move and I'm like, there's no way I literally can't do that.
So I like looked at the easier one.
I'm like, okay, I think I like went on my knees, but I was also like, oh, that's so interesting.
Like that's something I want to be able to do.
Like I want to get there.
And like that was so much more motivating than seeing like, I'm sorry, like a perfect or models abs that I'm never going to have.
But I was like, I could maybe get off my knees by the end of the year.
Like that's, that's a fun tangible goal.
You, you nailed it.
I think where people don't realize is so much power is in modifying versus skipping scaling something versus skipping it.
Because if you're only presented with one option and you're not there yet, number one, slightly defeating.
And if that keeps recurring in your fitness journey, guess what?
That is going to be the first reason that you don't show up.
But if you see the path to get there, because we present two to three alternatives, these are physical therapists, alternatives, you swap it.
Maybe next time you don't have to swap it.
Maybe it's three weeks and then you try the standard version.
But you have the path laid out for you to get stronger and to progress versus like, I don't know what a solute a good solution to train these same months.
I don't know what the modification should be.
Therefore I'm skipping it.
So we're out of that.
It's like people always talk about like no scale victories, like when they're on like their health journey.
And like to me, like that's, that's like the biggest one when you're able to do something that you weren't able to do before.
So I really love that you offer that.
I also love, I haven't done it at a time because I'm not, I'm not always the person who works out when they travel.
But you do have like a hotel moves or something.
And I think that's awesome.
That's awesome.
So one thing about Madeleine is she's not going to give you a lot of excuses.
I mean, we effectively know we're all about listening to your body.
But if you, if you have that desire on any given day, we don't want the mental load to be the deterrent.
Like we would way rather be that bridge where you have some energy, you've got some equipment.
We'll provide you a plan to make sure that the time you have is used the best way that it could versus kind of like making you overcome a few things to be able to get a quality work out then.
Yeah, it's so fun.
Okay. And then so you, I know you also guys do include like some recipes.
So I feel like you are the one of the perfect people to bring a ditch the drive through to us and ditch the drive through is an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get us out of our dinner rut.
I do have to just say I've been in a big old dinner rut.
In fact, I challenged myself probably like well at the beginning of this year to not hate dinner as much because I really started to load the time time at the end of last year.
Both the mental like coming up with stuff the kids at my feet.
It was just like it was not a happy time of my day.
So I created a little chart.
I got my kids on board.
I was like, how can we meet not hate this time of the day.
And it's been neat to see sort of some shifts happen.
But part of that has been prepping the protein sources for the three recipes that I use.
I kind of have this like it's called meals made simple and it's really helped me approach the week with less of a scrambled mindset.
So I am going to share a recipe from this resource that I've been using.
But it's I'm about comfort food these days.
The more the more that my kids like appreciate food versus like, you know, we're getting out all the purees like everybody's kind of eating the same thing.
When they have like a positive dinner experience.
Totally like it's a no, it's like I'm I say I'm always chasing the high of like everyone liking the dinner I made like it is.
Yeah, I'm addicted to that feeling.
It is few and far between.
But when it happens, it is with you.
Yeah, I've cried.
I've cried before when everyone was like eating something that I made and like it was healthy and they liked it.
Yeah, if you if you get like a two minute stretch that everybody's butts are in their seat and oh my God.
You won.
You won.
You won.
Okay, so the recipe is a lasagna soup.
I make it really like it's better the next two or three days.
It's like all the goodness and comfort of lasagna, but so much easier.
So you just saute some vegetables, you add some ground beef, you add cottage cheese, actually, which melts down and just makes it really rich and creamy.
You break up the lasagna noodles right in.
It's it's so beyond easy.
And I usually just strain out some of the broth and feed it to my kids is like a little bit more of a stew consistency dribbling everywhere.
And I mean, it just makes your whole your whole house smell good.
You serve it with some bread.
It is like comfort food, but it also has a ton of protein in it.
It's got like 30 grams of protein per serving because the cottage cheese and the ground beef.
So you really it's like a can't lose situation.
And Madeleine did say before she would she would get us the exact measurements and we'll put those we can put those in the show show notes.
Yeah, we can put those in the show notes.
I love it.
I love a recipe that has like high protein, but isn't like a chicken breast.
You know, it's like, but you're totally like a noodle with it.
Actually, there's even protein noodles now.
They're like chickpea base.
If you wanted to go crazy and add like a lasagna or even a different kind of pasta that's even higher protein.
And then I eat it for lunch is the next like few days.
It just totally better and better with soup is good for that.
Yeah, that's it.
That's a great one.
And I love lasagna, but the drama like to layer like and like you said, when you're a mom of young kids,
like I dinner is the biggest kick you while you're down kind of scenario because at least in my experience,
like my kids, especially when they were younger, like babies, okay, they were the worst between the hours of four to six.
Like the kids, my big kids are coming home from like meltdowns from back to school.
My little kids, you know, like just woke up from their nap or like the baby like might need to go down for a nap.
Like everything's happening all at once.
I just got off work like heaven forbid.
I try to like have a minute and I agree.
I would love the dinner and I think I love prepping proteins.
And I also would say like if there's a season because like we always hear that like prep the proteins.
Like if there's a season of your life where you can't even prep the protein, just buy prepped proteins because like I've done that before where it's like,
okay, I'm just going to buy the like pulled rotisserie chicken.
Okay, I'm just going to buy like one of my favorite hacks is call your barbecue restaurant and just order two pounds of pulled pork for the week.
So don't do anything with it.
Put it in your fridge.
Like if you have to just outsource because it was it's not always the combining or like the quick meals.
That's hard.
It's the cooking of the protein.
You're exactly right.
We do that with a restaurant down the street.
They serve like Cuban bowls and they'll do pork or chicken and I will just buy like two pounds of that.
It's just done.
And yeah, it's not the most cost effective thing, but that's not the purpose of that easy button.
And we always say, but you're ditching the drive through.
So like sometimes it's just more cost effective.
If it's more cost effective than something else.
There you go.
That's sometimes that's enough for me.
Yeah.
I will say one other dinner time thing that has has really helped.
I, I made a little chart for my kids.
I encourage them to like help me to try a new food and we all try to get outside before dinner time.
So recipes that I can start and have it like simmering on the stove while we go outside versus them just asking me when is it going to be done when it's cooking while we're doing something else.
And then we come back in and we plate and it doesn't take forever.
That has been a big sort of feel small, big impact, big ripple practice that we've started.
Where do you live?
We're in Greenville, South Carolina and we've gotten like snow the past two weekends.
So that's been wild, but generally it's not freezing freezing cold here.
My kids always sleep better too when they get outside like totally closer to bedtime.
Yeah, nap time to bedtime.
Not getting outside creates for a rough second half of the day.
Madeline, I'm so inspired by you.
I just appreciate you being a mom of three killing it physically on the internet, supporting other women.
I find it very hard to follow some other influence fitness influencers to this point in my life.
You don't have kids because we're just we're in different phases of life.
There's nothing wrong with them.
It's not for me.
So I just appreciate you not only supporting other people, but like being an example to like do it.
And your app is amazing.
And I just love the way that you're making it accessible for everyone.
You are wonderful.
Thank you so much.
You're very kind.
I have to say like the moments get gritty and anybody sharing their life online,
like you just can't possibly accurately reflect all the gritty.
Some people choose to share different amounts, but like the past year has been hard.
And I've tried to accurately represent that to the degree that's appropriate on the internet.
But like no mom that you look at is is feeling like she's crushing it in all the areas.
The camaraderie of like sharing some of that, sharing a win, sharing some of the things that are making dinner time less horrific.
Like those things kind of make the internet feel like a place that is so fun to show up to.
Well, in your diversity, which I know it's not easy to diversify your content in a personal way,
but I do think it's really nice when you do share.
I mean, you've built I really I look at your community kind of similar to our community.
Like it's they're not just followers.
Like people are here for the journey and I I appreciate the vulnerability and just and just the diversity in that content.
It's just like fun to know like the girl on the app is like the same girl making lasagna soup.
Like that shows that's fun.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think some of the most fun things have nothing to do with fitness and the most meaningful interactions I've had over the internet are.
Yeah, very rarely about workouts and and there's there's value to that to opening up your life to people.
And and I think our communities are similar.
Like it's so hard to navigate children on the internet and what is appropriate.
And I think it's probably changing by the day.
But to feel like my kids have only been.
They don't know it, but loved and had kind things about them and almost like this internet and community.
Like whether they ever know it, it's it's meant the world to me.
And yeah, you're a part of it for sure.
So people can follow Madeline at Madeline Moves.
You can also follow at Moves app on Instagram and you can download the moves.
It's called Moves app.
You nailed it.
Look at me.
Look at me.
Well, Madeline, thank you so much for joining the Carpool podcast.
You are such a delight.
Everyone go give Madeline a follow.
This was so fun.
Thank you.
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