Frito's and Ford Mustang owner etiquette

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Hard Parking. Before we get started any more

on this, feel free to fill yourself up with your second cup of Blanton's Gold. You know, I almost feel like you

called me out but. Tell us why you picked Blanton's

gold to drink today. Quite frankly, I haven't had it

in maybe 6 to 8 months, so it is so good that every opportunity I get a chance to get it, I do. You've basically had 6 to 8

months worth of a pour just today, so I'm going to take this, buy it and take in. Yeah, I'm going to take it from

you and put it behind my desk, where all the rest of the bottles live until they miraculously get emptied.

Plus I almost paid 40 dollars $45.00 for a pour dad at the

airport. I'd say cheers, but I feel like

half of what you just poured is already missing I.

Don't know what you're talking about with cheers.

Oh. Oh shit.

Yeah, almost lost it. Yeah, almost lost it.

So man, what? Are you doing in town?

I am in town on business. We have a couple clients here so

this was a quick easy day and a half trip.

What do you do? I'm a senior underwriter for a

small MGU, and for people who don't know that is we basically underwrite health claims for large groups, employers, municipalities, that kind of stuff.

So we have what we call producers, basically people who bring U.S. business and in an effort to keep their business

flowing, we come out and visit. We may do 1 and 9 lunch, hugs

and kisses, and then we get back on a plane.

I go back home. No.

How long you been doing this? Oh my gosh.

Since 2007. How'd you get into it?

By accident, I was an HR person at tgi Friday's.

Fridays was going through a transition to where hospitality and family eateries was getting through a tough rough patch and I felt how you feel. Your Spidey sense goes off.

Like they weren't downsizing yet, but they were using language that you use when you downsize.

Like, hey, how about we, we start collaborating with other departments and share, you know what I mean?

Let's, let's share, let's get some of this work off your back.

And then it became, we had an entire department that was doing our payroll. And then next thing you know,

two people from PeopleSoft came in and totally eliminated the payroll department. So we were next.

So anyway, Long story short, they were hiring.

No, I'm just joking. Long story short.

You missed, you said TGI Friday's.

Yeah, TGI Friday's. You missed them.

I missed. Do they, are they close?

Did they announce one of those chains?

They're what they did was they're done.

But the any people who own a franchise can now operate independently. So there's no longer a tgi

Friday's owned restaurant, but but yeah.

And so I had a friend who worked in this industry.

I interviewed with them before I started at Fridays.

It didn't work out. They called me back and they

were like, hey, we really want you to come on board.

And I'm like, perfect. Because I feel like in another

month I'm going to be unemployed.

And it went from there. You.

Want to talk about cars? You.

Want to talk about cars? How's your Mustang?

It's a Mustang. The the new Mustangs are

struggling. Like we'll say I'm not going to

use that T word that everyone's talking about right now, but I'm going to use the tariffs. So Ford is basically saying

they'll give us employee pricing on a new Ford.

For like 90 days I thought. For 90 days, however, my car is

a 2020 with 31,000 miles on it. So they really want to get in a

lot for a used car. So they were like, how about

we'll give you a 2025, we'll give it to employee pricing and we'll give you almost, I think it was 70% of the value of the car if I sold it. So, so so I'm debating it.

I really don't want another car now.

My car will be paid off in October.

I really don't want to do that. Well, congratulations with that.

Thank you. But so I had my friend Dre

Mullins in studio a couple months ago and we talked about the tariffs as it relates to vehicles and the value loan to value and all that kind of stuff.

So you have to be careful buying a car in the tariff market.

Yes. It's interesting though, with

Ford doing the employee pricing, friends and family employee pricing, hopefully, I mean in theory that kind of offsets it a little bit. It does.

It's also weird though, it's Ford.

I don't know where all their cars are built, but obviously they're not all built here or there's some major components that are built not here. I don't know if it's Canada or

Mexico. Well, I mean, I'll give you an

example of the sync system, which I'm very, I have my own house sports opinion about those.

But yeah, a lot of those components come.

That was the. Reason.

Which one opinion on those? I'm not a fan.

My hot take is I'm not a fan. I mean it is a Microsoft product

and it has its kinks and I had a Co worker at the first iteration of the sync and he has the same problems in I think it was 2005 that I'm having today. You know that's.

A long time. It's a long time it was.

Everything goes through the like the AC for example.

You can't use the AC without the sync system.

So if it gives you some headache, then the AC may blow cold, it may blow warm, it may not blow at all.

It struggles with Apple CarPlay, but you know, so you have to just reboot it sometimes. But yeah, I mean, it's it's just

not the greatest product. So it doesn't look like they've

done much updates to the software.

No. What would you get?

What would you get if you weren't looking at a new Mustang? Why a Mustang?

The Mustang to me was one of those cars where I told myself when I became a grown up, growing up where I didn't have kids and all that other stuff, that I really wanted a car that I thought would be fun to drive. And the Mustang has always been

a car I enjoy driving so. What you mean by not having kids

is. We drove SU VS and sedans my

entire adult life. Almost you got.

Kids. Yeah, but grown kids, that's the

thing. Yeah, when Jordan turned 18 and

I decided that when he had his first car, I am no longer going to buy a sedan. My last sedan was a Honda, it

was a Honda Accord and I'm like that car was great.

He decided he wanted his own car.

I was going to pass it down to him.

He told me he didn't want it and I'm like OK at this point I'm not buying another sedan and we definitely got away from the SUV's until Toy bought another. SUV, the Infinity.

Yes, the Infinity, which I think is an amazing machine and I hope we're not there in Infinity. I hope we keep buying them.

Well, I don't know if they're going to keep making them.

They have plans, but being a Nissan product, Nissan's on the Fritz, so we'll see what happens with that.

So my question to that is, is the conversation about mergers and Nissan, I am asking you, what's your take on that?

I don't really have a strong take on that.

None of that really matters to me.

I think that if Nissan, because their sales are obviously low for the most part, that I didn't see it as a merger to create a new company. I saw it more as Honda stepping

in. Bailing them out.

Yeah, just like 4 bills, everybody else out.

So, you know, my thought is it would have been Honda with a 5152% ownership and then someone had to decide, OK, the design language, you're going to keep your design language.

Are we merging Because most of us like car people were like, oh, they're going to come out with a GTRNSX?

Oh, that would have been nice, but no, that's not happening.

That's not happening. That's not happening, but for

whatever reason, there's rumors out there of why the talks fell through. But I think there's someone else

trying to work with Nissan right now.

So I think Nissan will probably be fine.

I'll have to scale back some production.

That's my opinion. I haven't really fully

researched it, but that's my opinion on the whole merger situation. It happens all the time.

But my thought is, yeah, it would have been more of a bailout that we now own your ass, right?

But you can do what you want. For now, I mean that I hope they

continue to make the Infinity. I think it's AI think it's a

fine product. If not, we wouldn't have three.

Or, you know, Jordan is still driving our 2015.

Which Infinity did you guys have?

The Q50 and he's, he's hit just right around 155,000 miles on it. I test drove a 2022 Q 50 back in

2022, 2023. It's when they had kind of the

dual screens inside. Which they still have.

Yeah, but it's cool. But I guess they were kind of

disconnected. They didn't really make much

sense. But I I love the interior,

everything. It's just we almost bought an

Infiniti Q60QX60 the Remod from a couple years ago and we ultimately went with the MDX because it's Acura and I got us a sweet deal, the dealership that I bought my NSX from.

That's just who you are. Yeah.

Well, it's just because that's where the dealership is, yeah.

Give me your props. Give me your props.

It's like when Jay Fennon walks into a dealership.

No, doesn't work that way. No, OK.

I'm sorry. We could pretend it does.

OK, So if at at Acura of Tempe in in Arizona, when Jay Fennon walks in and says I want to buy a car, yes, because they'll do that for anybody. They do that for James Holloway.

I would hope so, but. But they gave us a crazy deal

and that may have had a a small part of it.

I know the general manager is a great guy, but I think we made the right choice because the Acura's value retention is a little better and it's the lease.

Oh awesome. Yeah, so you know, it hasn't

been perfect. Yeah.

The EPA, the head of the EPA, has come out and said that they were going to kind of battle the Start Stop thing.

I think I brought that up last night at the bar.

My take is I think they should just get rid of it because, you know, I don't like it. Why don't you like it?

I don't like it. It's just one of those things

where when driving a car, I always feel like the car and the driver should kind of be In Sync.

And it just feels weird when the car is making a decision that I wouldn't make. You know, it's like a, like I

tell people all the time, like I love my Mustang, but it's a, the transmission is A10 speed transmission.

So from first to third, the car wants to fight.

And I'm like, it took me a while to get used to that.

But you learn, I mean, you drive a car for five years, you figure it out. The Start Stop function to me

never felt like it was something that was needed.

It just felt like something they felt like you needed.

And so every time I get in the car and they would do it, I'm like, this is counterintuitive with my driving.

It's like, sure, you know, I get it.

You're telling me that this is better than the car sitting idle. But it just seems so abrupt and

it's. Like, wait, what the?

Yeah. And it seems like you're

fighting your own car. You're like, I don't want to

fight my car. You know, I don't want to have

that. And, and I've never got used to

it. So, and I know a lot of people

complain because it throws him off, like the whole, a lot of people drive based on sound. I hear my car running, I hear my

car idle, you know, put my foot in the gas.

There's no hesitation. And a lot of people got used to

that, but I just never got used to it, you know?

So I think it's a matter of personal preference, but.

I think it differs also from manufacturer to manufacturer the. Hardest I've ever felt was BMW.

Now with the one you guys have rented right now.

Rented now is much better than when I first got into BMW five years ago or six years ago it was, you know, it was just so strange to come to a stop and just and then the heart start and now they've done a better job at it.

I soon have been working on it. But it was just so weird to get

to a light and just hit that hard.

Silence. Just it felt.

Unsafe to me because the first time I experienced it was driving my friends car in Wisconsin into TLX And when you're crossing traffic to turn left, if you're in the right lane or if you're in the middle between traffic and the one of those old turn lanes and it's just very disruptive.

It feel like it took the the TLX a long time to kick in because you're right, it's this and nothing car turns on then you move right. Whereas now it seems a little

more seamless. But even the MDXI have it set

and I swear that underneath my setting it doesn't do that.

And then it did it. So but last night I was thinking

about that on the way to meet you guys, you and Kade at your hotel when you came in, I was like, oh, maybe because I have my settings saved, it's not doing it very next time I stopped it did it. So they say that there's

actually no have to find the article because I like to try to cite this stuff in in, in the notes.

But there is a correlation of fuel efficiency improvement somewhere between like 5% and 20%, which I find hard to believe. And one of the things that I

watched, I think CBS said that most people don't like it because they think that it's disruptive to their motor like the start and stop. And I'm like, this is a 1982.

Well, I. Mean you have people who still

believe like the I don't know how often you use a remote start and they're like we have. It for the MDX that's the only

I. Don't ever had it.

I think it's draining the battery or blah blah blah blah blah. Everyone has their own hot

sports opinion but like you said as it's it it the intent I get, it's the how it feels when I'm driving that I struggle with.

So it doesn't actually drain the battery or do any of that stuff according to some research. Like I said, no one fucking

cares. No people are annoyed with the

start. Stop The Avengers.

A button is what I call it. It is.

The Avengers a button, we look at it you're.

Right. You know, and then and all of

us, most of us disabled as soon as we get in the car.

Oh, man, just like the lane assist and all that kind of stuff. Well, it's crazy.

Because even in the rental car we're in, in the BMW, the first thing we did, we sat in the parking lot at the airport and we did two things. One, we synced our phones to the

car so we can listen our own music.

And two, the next thing we did was we disabled it without even like debating it. It was like, no, do this and

then do that. And I get it.

Did you? See that Dodge and I talked

about this in the in the most recent episode a couple episodes ago, but Dodge just cancelled the EV Charger RT due to terrible sales. 3500 of them are sitting on lots and they want

almost like $68,000 for that car with a better version coming out. I thought I saw a flash on my

phone that said they've cancelled all of them but I haven't had time to research that.

I don't think they're cancelling all of them.

Would you consider an EV? Not that one, but I would.

Why? Well, because dodges basically

put themselves in a lane that that car.

Most of the cars like that are made for speed.

You you want a car that sounds and looks the part When I first I test drove 10 the. EV Yeah test.

Drove the EV, there's a Dodge dealership like 5 minutes from my house. I had to take my car to get

service and the dealerships are side by side so I walked in like Joe Blow. Hey I see you have these on the

lot blah blah blah. Oh.

Black guy. They love this, I know.

He wants this. He wants.

This like like every black guy wants, you know, a hellcat.

Like I almost feel like that. That is like how Sprite became

the drink of black people that became the car for black.

Totally incidental. I don't think it was

intentional. What?

Was that Lincoln that everyone was driving in the late 90s, early 2000s but the. Navigator or the other one is

the car. Oh man, I know you're talking

about. I gotta think about it.

It's like the. Lincoln Mark something.

It was a mark. Something.

And everyone wanted it. Every black.

Dude yes had that car but I. Don't know how.

Like it's so funny that Dodge was like, oh, is that what's going on? OK, well, let's push that as a

as a, you know, as an option to sell to a certain demographic.

And then you basically pull the rug from up under them and say, we're going to stop making this car.

We're going to make this car, but hey, it we can make it sound like the other car. That's the part I struggle with.

Like if it was just a regular EV, fine, but you basically said, we've been making cars that push out five 56107 hundred horses. We're going to give you an

electronic car that sounds like that just so people can be satisfied that it sounds like a Mustang.

What was? The growl.

What did it sound like? Oh my gosh, dude, it.

Sounded like can you do it can. You do the microphone.

Hold on. And it's Michael.

Winslow over here. Yeah, I know.

Right. And it was so weird because it

seems so artificial like, and I'm this is coming from a Mustang owner, which Mustang has the similar setup with their exhaust? And wait, hold on.

When you bought your Mustang and then you're thinking about buying this 25, did you have to sign somewhere on the contract?

You would Rev anytime you saw a crowd of people or through a parking lot. Did you have to sign something

to say no? I didn't have to, but I I do

now. Like, you know how people talk

about the Jeep Wave Mustang guys have to, once they see each other, have to Rev each other. And it's hilarious because I'm

not a douche, so I don't do it. So every time a guy comes like,

you know, pulling like side by side or I see him come down the street, it's this, hey, how you doing?

And I'm like, I'm not doing that.

I'd rather just wave at you. I'm sorry.

I'm not built. You should give him a.

Thumbs up. You should stick your hand out

the window and be like oh it's. Hilarious because it's like like

Mustang owners are such a diverse group.

It's an 18 year old kid who thinks he's cool going back to the Hellcat, or it's a 65 year old guy who's been driving Mustangs since the 60s, Right? And they all have the same

opinion. I drive a Mustang.

It's the best car ever made. And I'm like, well, I drive a

Mustang, but I know damn well it's not the best car ever made.

And they give you the room and then it's like, how long have you had your Mustang? I don't know, dude, it's a 20.

I've had it since 20. Are you a Mustang guy?

Yeah, I would consider myself a Mustang guy.

OK, well, this is my third Mustang.

Great. I'm happy for you.

I'm not. I'm not entrenched in the

culture. I just like the car.

Go back to your question about the EVI wouldn't drive an EV that's pretending to be a something.

Else something. Else, you know, it's like, let's

look at the Prius. The Prius never lied to us.

It's an ugly car it to me. Even the redesign the.

Redesign looks better than the the old version, but to me it's like when you buy a Prius you're not trying to like.

No EV owner is cool unless you're driving a Tesla.

So says a Tesla guy. Right.

But again, these are my house sports, the Porsche.

The Porsche taken is a. Beautiful car and it is cool the

Audi. The Audi E Tron is pretty nice

too. It's pretty nice.

Hell, even the Cadillac lyric is starting to grow on me.

No, that's. Just ugly.

I don't. Care but the tail.

Lights on it are just. That's the.

Problem the tail lights but the interior and the other aesthetics look great but the tail lights are horrible but you know it's pretending to be something else.

Just buy an EV and say it is what it is and Jeep should follow suit. Don't give me a Jeep that's an

EV. I mean, I'm sorry, I think

there. Is 1 there is a Wrangler right?

Yeah, the Wrangler E and I'm like, no, if I wanted a Wrangler, just give me a Wrangler.

So Long story short, no, I just think that I don't like that particular EV, but I would drive.

I think most Americans at some point would come around on E VS.

I agree. I I would totally take an EV as

a daily yes. And then I saw my fast car.

But I don't want my fast car to be necessarily an EV, and I don't. Want my fast car to be an EV

pretending to be a fast car. With the sounds, yes, right.

So Acura is working on a next sports car.

I'll take an EV as a daily. I don't want it to be my high

performance car because at the end of the day, that's one thing I realized with my old NSX. We worked hard.

We ICE owners, internal combustion engines to make our cars fast, to modernize our cars.

And then you pull up to a light and there's a Tesla Model 3 with someone who doesn't give a fuck about cars to blow your doors off. Well, have you?

Been in a Plaid when in insane mode.

I've never been in a Plaid, but I already know it's.

It is insane. Yeah, and you're right, they

don't give two fucks about the fact that your car is probably one of the most mechanically amazing cars ever built.

They only care that they can go zero to 60 in 2.5 seconds or

something, whatever that number is.

But that's one of those things where it's like, wow, this is where we're at. I no longer care.

This is cool, but I still want an internal combustion engine with a hybrid if need be for my fun car, yeah.

Because of that fact, like, I mean, when I went to the dealership, the guy was like, hey, your Mustang is in really good shape. Are you looking at new?

And I'm like, I'm debating it. He goes, OK, well, I mean with

your car. What an.

Incredible pick up line I know. Right.

It made me feel like that I was really the prettiest girl on the line day. So then he goes, do you want

another Mustang? I'm like, well, you know, they

have the, the GT, the GT premium, I mean, and then the next step up is GT. Premium, yeah, which in.

Texas is that. Like the Eddie Bauer version of

the Mustang, it pretty. Is it pretty much is and and and

and the funniest thing is it's like in Texas.

I mean, I'm sure in Arizona, I mean, I don't know how many people want a leather interior when you're dealing with 110°.

I'll take. One every time.

Still I still. Struggle with that and I do

appreciate those who do, but it that's the only really difference and maybe some of the trim options like the the maybe the wheels you get like Chrome instead of the black painting or whatever. But it was hilarious as the guy

was like the premium is the nicest trend on it comes with this, this and this and I'm like, but for another 10K, like am I getting all my money's worth for that 10K?

But what I'm alluding to is, is that the next thing he said was he goes, well, you got kids. I'm like, no, I have kids, but

they're grown. He goes, but I was like, I said

something to my granddaughter. Oh, with a Maki and I'm like,

I'm not interested. I'm just not Yeah.

And that's what I came to buy. I tried to sell you're.

On the SUV, the SUV, Maki. Yeah, there's.

And he goes, well, I mean, and like you mentioned, it's like it's an EV and it does zero to 60 and da, da, da, da, da.

And if you get the sports packages da, da, da, da, da.

And I'm like, that's not the car I want as a daily driver for fun. To your point, if I was using

that for as a commuter car. Great.

Are those expensive? No.

I mean you can start off in the mid 30s which isn't a lot.

For any which isn't. A lot for any, especially when.

Dodge 168 thousand for the Treasurer, TEV, I think.

The the mid tier is probably somewhere around 4045.

That's what I fucking said when I talked about on my a prior episode. I go I would have expected this

thing to be like a forty $45,000 car.

Now you're telling me it's a $68,000 car and no shot?

Well. It takes it out of the the

conversation of if I'm paying $70,000 for a car, I have certain expectations. If you charge me $45,000 for it,

my expectations are totally different.

Like I would probably buy that car for 45 K, yeah.

I think it's, I personally think it's a good looking car, I think. It's a good looking car, but

when you start telling me that you want $79,000 for it, I look at all my other options at that price point and it doesn't fit the bill. That's just, you know, I'm

sorry. And and the cool factor that you

people talk about, I'm like, I don't think that's worth the $79,000 to be cool. That's like the what's the

motorcycle? Is it the Raptor?

It's the three wheeled motorcycle.

Oh. Yeah, the trike.

I, I people want to call it a trike, but it's a trike.

Remember those? Commercials and they'd have like

a whole bunch of people driving and they're turning together and you got the two wheels in the front, one wheel in the back and I'm like, oh, that's, that's never going to be that cool.

And then The funny thing about it is, is that there's a dealership like 10 minutes from my house.

It's a, it's a, I think they do Harley and something else and maybe Indian. I can't remember.

But those bikes at first were like frontline on the line.

Now you don't even see him. And when I see a guy on it, it's

typically a guy 10 years older than me bumping, I don't know, like 90s hip hop and he's with his Boo.

And I'm like, I'm sorry because he left.

The slingshot at home because he left.

The Slingshot at home, that's his other motorcycle is his Slingshot. He was like, what?

I'm like, no, I, I mean, it's just hilarious.

I'm like, I don't know man. It just doesn't age well.

But I'm sure if I was a motorcycle guy I would have a different opinion. So let's talk about bourbon, all

right? Because you're on your second

glass of the Blanton's Gold. My favorite I barely.

Just bought. I like how you say it in a way

where it's like this thirsty motherfucker is drinking on my bourbon. It's OK, because here's the

deal, we go way back way. Back we go.

Way back to the to the mid to late 90s, I put it.

This way I knew Jay when he had a water bed.

Everybody had a water bed back then.

Everybody got that water bed, man.

That was like the thing, hey, I got a water bed, dude.

However, I got a. Water bed.

Let me ask you A. Question and and I'm asking this

because I already know the answer but I want to hear you say it. How much of A player move is it

to to say you want to get my water bed?

I don't know the answer to that question.

Sure, we'll. Pretend like you don't know.

But I do know that Toya, your wife, girlfriend at the time, one day she's going to write a book.

Oh, I'm sure she will, yeah. So I'm waiting.

To see if she's going to do one of those tell all books that you and I will both probably say, well, why didn't I have her sign an NDA? Brandy and Brandy, yes, yes, so.

Well, my. Favorite is the, I mean, besides

the waterbed is the how can I put this in a way that doesn't offend anyone? Not shrapnel, but the, hey,

here's my friend so and so Fidel.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I forgot.

About the one that had the English old English tattoos across the chest. I had never seen that talk

about. Skeletons.

No. We're going to move on though.

But anyway, we go way back. Fidel was my alias until I got

busted one day. Is Fidel there, Jay?

Jay. Or yeah, Jay, no, I don't know.

You know, I I start pretending as if I don't speak English.

K. So, Jay.

What did some people like cucumbers better than Pickles?

So. Guys, I told a girl and I met

that my name is Fidel Washington which.

By the way, is a cool alias. I mean, let's be honest, how

many guys have you met that popped out with Fidel Washington like that was? So that was a brand new with the

IE, not brand new with the Y brand.

New with the IE, Yeah. Who, by the way, was one of the

few people who, on the surface, I didn't know could crack Crazy.

That might be brand new with the Y, OK.

Which one would, anyway? Well, I'm not going to go down

this road with you because we're going to start digging up a lot of Brandy. With the Y was the pop crazy?

Yeah, all right, Pop, Crazy. All right, Well, moving on,

Crazy Brandy. With the IA was pretty chill OK.

Moving on, we have known each other so long that we could do this all day, right? And then people who are

listening to this or watching it on Spotify or YouTube are kind of getting an inside look of somebody who knows me like.

Truly knows you. Back in the days where I fear

for my life and had to carry a 380.

Yeah, because you were my roommate at the time.

I mean, that's another thing when Mane.

Came in and threatened to kill everybody.

You're the. Only man I've ever lived with,

if that makes any that means anything.

But yeah, we had some, we had some crazy times.

The we had great times. I mean, we had 24.

I try to tell someone who's much younger.

That's to explain to them playing Gran Turismo and me, you and G trying to do the Le Mans. Yeah, so.

We're all doing shifts because we trying to because you couldn't. Save it.

No, You're Gran Turismo. Maybe the second one.

You couldn't save them. You could save the endurance

race, yes. You had to finish the race.

You had to. Finish the race, so we had to

work in shifts to get it done. And Tony.

And Tony? And then the the NBA Live

tournaments that we had at the house, I mean, you know, that's how old we are, but I would. Own fools because I would pick

the bulls. I'm not going.

To lie, you really did. Hitting so the NBA Live is

really where I think Curry learned.

Oh 100% shoot from the logo 100% because you can.

Shoot from the logo with the right team all day, no.

All day and I tell people it's hard to explain that one if you're if you had a guy who was AI mean Jordan was what, a 98 something like that he was in the 90s. 989998. 99, right?

If you chose to be a lame and put that thing on easy mode, it's over. And yes, it's over.

I mean, you are Steph Curry, Yeah.

With anybody with. Anybody.

I was hitting. Shots from half court with Tony

Kuko Was Paxton Kerr. Oh, Kerr was.

Kerr and Paxton was a nightmare with.

Judd Bushler Bushler Bush was on the radio man.

Now he was, He was a perfect role player for the Chicago Bulls. And he averaged, I don't know, 5

minutes a game and he's still get in there and get 3 fouls, 2 threes. When I give the guy a dunk.

Yeah, so. He made the best of his time on

the court. But yeah, that was that was the

beginning of the the PlayStation was getting NBA Live in Gran Turismo. Remember Latoya's Hyundai

accident? OK, you want to know my my

memory of that car was a white car.

Missing a bumper. It was a white.

Car missing a bumper because her sister at the time was one of the most awful drivers I had ever seen in my life.

By the way, I love my wife to death but at that point she was an unlicensed driver of a Hyundai XL.

And that thing you did? Oh accent you're right and it

had AI. Don't know 2.8 liter engine if

that if. That it might have had a smaller

engine than my Honda Z in the garage, yeah.

Yeah, that thing, I mean, you really could outrun it.

And, and it was funny. It was the first time I had been

in a car where if you accelerated, you felt the AC go.

Oh, you want me to do less work? Sure, I'll get you to 60 mph,

but I'm going to blow at the lowest setting.

But yeah, that was a raggedy car.

But I mean, and but the reason I bring that up is because that was a terrible vehicle. But meanwhile, I was rolling

with Jay in one of the best cars ever made.

The 1998 Acura and Tiger GSR. There we go smoking the Dejourum

clove cigarettes. Yep.

And going over to like what, once a week we would go over to 711 and do the big bite, buy one, get one free no so.

That wasn't once a week, that was.

That was literally every day. Who's that?

Every day because. Your old man worked with

somebody who worked with Paramount or he worked with Paramount. Yes, and.

They got a basically he was printing coupons for 7/11 and.

We got a coupon book each she did and it's.

Each coupon was like 1 free hot dog a day.

Yes. And so we went to the same 711

because we worked together, yes, which is somewhere between our job and our house, conveniently, or our apartment.

Yeah. And so it got to the point where

we'd go in there and the guy's like, so the coupon was just for a regular hot dog. Yes.

But after like the third visit, the dude's like, OK, whatever you guys want. So I think we we ate one of

every type of dog or whatever The thing is rolling on 711.

Oh yeah. We had them all and.

No, I would do it again today. I would.

And it would got super cool that we would go in there like to to clarify the reason why I worked that is we worked on what midday shift 3 to 11, something like. That something like that.

So you got two guys who are making absolutely no money and we would, you know, come home and or be on our way home and like man, I'm starving $2.00 to my name and I would say it was a

much better meal than ramen noodles.

So we would go buy our 711 guy and they do became super cool.

At some point I think he even stopped asking for the coupon.

Probably. But.

It was such a regular currency. He's like, hey, what's going on,

man? How you doing?

How's it? And we would go in there and

we'd do our big bite and we tried every iteration of a big bite, and then we would go home and that was dinner.

Remember the guy Vernon who worked with us?

He had a Porsche 944 red one. Yeah.

And all the girls are like, oh, they wanted to hook up with Vernon so bad 'cause he had a Porsche.

He had like the shittiest Porsche ever, ever.

And being a car guy, I was like, So what?

A car's a piece of shit. 8 I don't even.

Think I had a car at the time I've been.

I've been before 9:40. 4 now because there's some nice ones

out there like a 944 no, but his was a piece of shit.

His was a piece of shit. But we also talking about a guy

who I mean we worked at a job with the average age call center. Life.

Yeah, costing. Life The average age was what,

19 for the for the reps I. Don't know.

But whatever it was, he to them, he was a guy who was making it.

I'm like you working at a call center with 19 year olds, you know? But yeah, but, you know, keep in

mind that this was back then, that was the hottest thing ever made to the women that we work with.

Shout out to the women we work with.

Shout out. To Oh my gosh I almost forgot

the name of that place. ATC.

ATC, Western Union. Yeah, So calls to ATC or calls

to Western Union may be monitored.

That's what I did. I did the quality assurance.

I'm the guy that would listen to people like James while.

We were having calls, Yep. Or And then we had this one

woman we worked with who was narcoleptic.

Oh my gosh, we had a couple crazies and.

Her and her husband both worked there, yes, and they were both weird, yes, but she would fall asleep on the phone and so I would watch her screen and you could tell 'cause when she's typing in the person's name and she's typing in Kevin, and then there's this KEVVVVVVVVVVVV. I'm like, shit, she's asleep

again. You have to shoot her the

message. You don't have to have a message

that would be disruptive on the screen.

You'd be like, I'm like, wake your ass up, right, You know?

Oh, Lord. But The thing is, one of our

best friends, Doug's dad worked there, too.

He was a supervisor. Yeah.

And then your mother worked there She was.

I got the. Job.

She was a team in the supervisor.

I got the job, yeah. And so she was my supervisor.

That's how we met, right? Which is pretty cool.

Yeah, this is we're talking 9690. 697 'cause I think I left

and we both tapped out at what? 90 I I.

Think I left first 'cause you left first.

Did you go when they transferred to another location?

So I didn't. Have a choice like in

Carrollton? Or something.

No, Well, that's. An ass.

It was an. Ass, It was an ass.

I didn't have a choice because basically the the they moved the contract so in order for you to get all of your money on the way out the door, you had to agree that you would go to the new location, at least for I think it was like 6 weeks or something He. Changed names too, I thought.

Ages. Ages.

Yeah, we went from ATC Western Union to ages and.

They put us on a new campaign, I mean, because we they yanked the Western Union contracts. So we end up, yeah, we end up

doing other stuff. But yeah, it was hilarious that

you and I met because my mom was your boss.

And I eventually got the job because my mom said, hey, you want to work here? And I'm like, sure, I need a

job. And then over time you became QA

and then we pretty much had another our another good friend of ours, Doug, his dad was also. So we pretty much could do what

we wanted. I was.

A stickler, though, man, you were.

Because you were, you were part basically part of management.

So you had because if you. I don't care if it's, and that's

kind of where I learned the lesson that I took forward in life. I don't care if you're my best

friend. If my job is to make sure you

don't fuck up, I'm gonna make sure you don't fuck up.

And I'm like, I've given either you or Doug a 0 before.

No, no. No, no, I mean, 'cause we, we

were fucking up, yeah. I mean it got to the point that

we just stopped caring. So it was a couple times where

like. So the biggest move would be

what we do gate whatever they call a gay 5 where you can log out. I.

Don't remember SO. My mom was bringing this up to

you. So you can log out and say

you're doing something else but you would have to log back in and start taking calls. So it's like.

Wrap up time Wrap up time. Yeah, so we would log out and be

like, fuck it. Or I mean, we have some horrible

calls, man. I mean, we're dealing with

people who there's nothing better than the guy calling you at 3:00 in the afternoon saying my Mama told me she sent me $50.

Yeah, that's the take. We would play and orientation,

there was a guy who would call and it was a real, you know, because again, calls are recorded for quality assurance.

Yes. So we use that call and it's a

guy calling. He's like, man, where's my

money? And he was so mad.

And it was over like $50. Yeah, it was.

It was not like $1000 and how you tell a what sounded like a 36 year old man that his Mama didn't send the money, right?

That was his argument because my Mama told me she sent me that money. So it was.

But you appreciate this and go full circle.

So Derek, who was your boss? I remember.

Derek still. Lives in Garland and end up

being one of those guys where you're like, man, I'm really glad he's not in jail. It's so surreal that when I talk

to Corinne about him, it's like, yeah, Dee's still doing the same old stuff. Dee was doing twins.

Uncle that's. Right.

Yeah, Corinne was cool and Dee was.

Cool, I never had a problem with him.

And said, what's up? Just because we used to be like,

really good friends. Yeah.

And that's all the other drama. And like Derek was cool.

One thing I remember about Derek is he his brother died in a motorcycle accident which is why he doesn't ride bikes.

Yep. And then I forgot her name, but

it was that girl that he dated and there was some car accident or something. You know what?

She was in a coma forever. I.

Know and I think that yeah that's the last thing I ever heard about that but that's just it's crazy that how life comes at you that fast and it's. Insane that, you know, you look

at someone who I mean, we're guys in our early 20s who are looking at someone who at that time was probably in his late 30s and go, oh, he's got it all together.

You know, it's just the perception is reality deal.

It's just shocking that you go, OK, look at him now he's 60 and same problems he was having 30 years ago.

It's. Wild.

Didn't mean to bring the room down, but I mean, it was just crazy, man. You're fucking.

This whole thing, sorry. Man, sorry, but it was just

surreal because I talked to her like a month ago and she brought up him and I'm like, you know, I was like what?

He yeah, same O same OD Still mad at the system, Yeah, but moving on. What are you?

Going to do, are you going to full circle, you know, what are you going to do with the the Mustang situation?

I'm probably going to between now and October when I have to really make a hard choice. I'm probably going to go ahead

and move with another one. I enjoy my car.

I love driving it. But there are some things, I

mean like any car that you get a newer model.

They've added some some some toys, some fun stuff that I'm like those tail. Lights are weird.

The tail lights are weird. The they do something also where

depending on again, we'll go back to the GT premium, they do a couple things where they'll change the front fascia, they'll add like the, the it's so weird that it used to be the rule of thumb used to be if you had a EcoBoost or below AGT, it was a single, it was a dual tailpipe and that's how you can tell the difference between 1 Mustang to another from Mustang guys, right. Then it became.

Well, we only do the quad tails on the premiums or some of the the special editions. And then now it's like all bets

are off. It just depends on the price

point. If you want it, you pay for it.

But to answer your question, I don't know.

I'm really thinking that I really want to move into a new Mustang because it's got some cool stuff.

I mean, the the interior new tech.

Oh, the new tech is it's got the wrap around, you know, LC DS that basically work as a as a full instrument cluster.

And then you have it for a 10 inch screen.

For this, the interior is better.

I would knock on Ford. Ford products have never had a

really good interior. That's where they cheap out.

They're a big fan of the fake carbon fiber.

Yeah. Like the the hydro diplic and

shit? Yep.

Yeah, they also like using as much plastic as humanly possible cost. Man, no.

I. Mean cost and weight, right?

And then while you do it, you bring down the cost and bring down the weight of the vehicle. I bet you're.

Right, they don't give a fuck about weight.

You really 100% right. It's cost and then the seats

where they're comfortable, but they just make them out of that.

It fades and I don't know if you've ever gotten a car that has cloth interior, but the driver's side gets most of the the the getting in and out damage and it's very visible in most Mustangs. I just think that's one thing

that they decided this bolster, yes, they decided like let's spend a little bit of money on that.

And I like the look of it. At first it was really a

struggle looking at the new Mustang, but I've really it's grown on me. So to answer the question, I'm

probably going to get another one so.

Remember in January that Barrett Jackson, you said you're going to come to but you didn't this. Is true.

Yep. So they had a lot of the new

Mustangs there and including that I forgot the name of the the Dark. Horse or.

They had that and then they had the three letter version.

It's like a half, $1,000,000 or quarter of a minute.

It's like $350,000. They had that one there, yes.

And then the nasaline. Who else?

What's What's the other? Nasaline.

No. Nasaline used to be the other

used to be. Roush was the other one.

I think it's. Roush, yeah, Yeah.

So they had a Roush one there and it almost had the same horsepower as this other one. But that thing was sick, No?

I mean, they're all models if you get the.

One, if you get an entry level 1, which you probably will, that's going to look like dog ship.

But if you get the nice one, those are nice.

No, those are. Nice.

Like I will tell people to this day that they did the, I think it was the last time they did the, the GT500 and those are nice too. Yeah, those are nice.

And they did the Brittany Blue, the anniversary edition, and that thing was absolutely gorgeous.

I'm not a guy who has $157,000 to spend on the vehicle.

You don't. No, I don't.

I know it's shocking, but I did go to Latin test drive one and that was probably the most fun I've had other than thinking about driving your car. Most fun I've had behind you

driving my car. I said no, I talked myself out

of it. But I bet you I would have

really enjoyed it when you were in Dallas.

But yeah, that was a, that was a lot of fun.

They, there are some muscans that look amazing interior and an exterior. But you know, I, I, I'm not a /

I probably would say 60K price point guy.

You have to get into the 91 twenties to start getting those type of trams and that type, unfortunately, unfortunately, yeah, yeah. And that's what about CPO.

Certified pre owned. Those are fine.

The problem is, is that there's just not a lot of inventory, at least in Dallas, right, Right. You know, if you find one, it's

normally off the lot within 30 days.

Would you? Travel Have you ever travelled

for a car I. Did.

Funny story, my cousin who lives in Memphis is a Mustang guy.

I think he's the one that got me into it.

So he basically said that Memphis has a dual municipality, so you get taxed twice, you get the county tax and you get the city tax. So he drove.

First off, you already have. Yeah, I'm gonna.

Let you catch up. I'm gonna let you catch up.

So he drove here to get his Mustang.

So I was intrigued. So here is in.

Dallas here in. Is in in Dallas, sorry.

And I was intrigued by that. So the Infiniti, we went to

Oklahoma and that's where we're in.

Oklahoma, basically. Right outside of Oklahoma City.

I mean, that's a 3 1/2 hour drive from my house.

So they had a dealership that was basically doing a year end clearance. They were getting rid of the 20s

and they're like, hey, you know, we have 5 models here, they're priced here and they gave us a better financing option.

So that was the one time I did. I would do it with Ford

absolutely because in Texas, well, I wouldn't probably have to go out of state. But in Texas there's so many of

these small towns that have Ford dealerships that basically they don't get the foot traffic, so they'll be happy for you to come in. I mean, one place that's an hour

from my house actually said they would deliver me a Mustang and I'm like, cool, He said. Yeah, we'll have a guy drive a

second vehicle. Follow that guy to your house.

Drop it off at your door. Texas has a lot of, especially

with the trucks like Texas Only edition.

Oh. Texas is a truck state, no

doubt, and there's a lot of Texas editions every every manufacturer almost. Fell through the marketing.

What are we supposed to talk about bourbon or something?

We are. We got sidetracked, almost fell.

I almost fell for the marketing leaving Texas, not this last time, but one of my other trips. Because you go into like specs

or you go into the liquor store in, in Amarillo or wherever when you're driving and they have all these cool bottles that are shaped like Texas My. Favorite is the but you don't

know. If any of them are any good, and

chances are they're probably not, well, I would.

I have a high sports opinion. I don't like Texas whiskey

getting back to the back. At all I.

Don't like, I mean just it just it just Texas Garrison.

Garrison is awful. That's probably one of the worst

things I put in my mouth, and I'm including when I was out there dating some good. Garrison's I think they have.

A couple, but man, that that left a tape.

I mean, it's like, but I'm when these guys who getting back to our conversation where we're going to talk about bourbon.

I love certain types of bourbon. I'm not a big fan of Tennessee

whiskey either. I'm from Tennessee.

You know, there's a certain Tennessee whiskey.

The way they they produce that whiskey is a certain taste to it. Same thing with Texas, Texas

whiskey. They'll tell you that they can

age a Texas whiskey in three to five years because it gets it gets too hot, so they can age it faster.

So they're young whiskey. You have to enjoy young whiskey.

I'm in, you know, I may like it, I may not.

I like still Austin. I think that's one of the best

produced whiskey in Texas. But yeah, it's it's it is funny

when you see a Crown Royal bag and they have a Texas flag on the Crown Royal bag because it's Texas.

And people who come to Texas go, I want that bottle because it has the Texas edition or Texas flag on it or whatever.

They make a Rangers bottle and people come and buy it solely because it's a Rangers bottle. I mean, I get it.

It's great marketing. What's your?

Go to whiskey. Yeah.

What's your go to daily sipper? There's a bottle you.

Hooked me up with a bottle of McKenna that was.

You beat me to it, McKenna, for the price point, it's a $60.00

bottle and I think it's it's a 10 year bottle and I think it's one of the best for that price. Did you?

Check baggage or did you carry on carry?

On well. Then I can't give you no, no

liquor. No, but that's one of my

favourites for six I think. High end $64, average price 62.

It's a damn good bottle, but I am learning that I've been introduced to Wild Turkey. I didn't used to be a Wild

Turkey guy, but they they have a couple bottles in that $56 range that are actually really good bottles.

Now I've. Heard wild Turkey, they do have

some good stuff mentally. I think of Wild Turkey one on.

One is like. A rednecks drink.

Yeah, the wild. Turkey one-on-one really is it's

like to some people how you view Jack or Jack Daniels or something and you. Know there's some excellent

jacks. It's like, it's like the tequila

people that say I drank tequila in college and I'm never going to drink it again. It's because you had Jose Cuervo

Gold. Exactly.

And there's so many tequilas that are infinitely better.

So I admit that that Wild Turkey for me, someone's going to have to say, OK, here's the Wild Turkey you need to try.

That's what it takes because that's what it took for me.

So we have a mutual friend that consider my friend Chase, who was chasing down a certain bottle.

And I'm like, you're a bourbon guy, Why are you looking for this bottle? You know, and he's like, man,

it's a really good bottle. And we went back and forth on

some other bottles. And I have a Co worker who who

got me a bottle of the wild Turkey 70th anniversary bottle.

It's a one off. They made it last year.

I don't think they're going to do.

I mean, they're not, it's not going to be another 70th anniversary, but it's a really good bottle.

And it was made by basically their their main guy who was like, this is how I would like I want this mash bill and and it takes nothing like other wild Turkey.

So it went over so well that they were like they came out with an 8 year that's similar, but not the same.

And it and I realized I was like, they have another bottle of rare breed bottle. Really good bottle I've seen.

Rare breed, Yeah, it's a. Really good bottle and and I

used to be, I mean, who are we kidding?

Most people are brand recognition when it comes to bourbon. Absolutely.

Because there's thousands of them.

Same thing with Scotch, Same thing with anything.

If you. Told somebody McAllen.

I don't know anyone who goes oh, I don't like McAllen.

You know, even if they pretend like they nudie.

Purists say they don't. They don't.

Oh, it's it's really easy to drink.

Well, yeah. That's why everyone.

That's why we want to fucking. Drink it.

It's an 80 proof bottle of something that's really good and it has brand recognition. I don't know a person who's

never heard of McAllen, right? Yeah.

So you go into Buffalo Trace and all the 100 different things they make, I'm exaggerating, but quite frankly, they make a lot.

They make a lot, yeah. And people identify with it

because of the brand. It you go rare or Buffalo Trace

you guys. Have a lot of like just Buffalo

Trace. We do, but it's so weird that

Texas has a thing with Buffalo Trace where we've endeared ourselves to Buffalo Trace and and it's really still limited.

We have it everywhere. We haven't.

If you go to any grocery store within 4 miles from here and I can promise you they have Buffalo Trace Buffalo.

Trace in Texas, to the best of my knowledge, is still an allocated product, which is. Nutty to me, which is.

Nutty to me, I agree, but it is still an allocated product when when it drops on the shelf people lose their mind like just. The Buffalo Trace that has the

Buffalo just a. Regular Buffalo Trace and then I

got. One in the closet, which is a

Fry's, a Sazerac Buffalo Trace that I bought last weekend on the release, but it's a Fry's local grocery store trace chain.

But I'm like, all right, limit 4 bottles.

No 2 bottles can be the same. So I grabbed this thing that

you've killed half the bottle of tonight, a stag that I'm trading with Chase for a King Ranch. Oh.

That's a that King Ranch is really good.

Haven't had it yet. Really good.

I have one in the. Closet I haven't opened up

really good, Yeah, but now that I'm going to get another one, I'm going to trade him so that I can open it up.

And I forgot what else I got. But the point of the whole thing

is they have a special Buffalo Trace.

But other than other than the special one, I could go to any grocery store around here and I can promise you there's going to be like 10 of them. No.

I'm I'm 29. Dollars and.

That's the thing. I mean, it's crazy how I was

introduced to Buffalo Trace with that bottle.

Like we had a but well, Kate Kay was coming to work one day, saw a line that like specs or a total one, I can't remember which one said, hey, I think they're having a drop.

If they have something, do you want it?

I'm like, sure. I mean, this is when I'm getting

early into bourbon. I said, sure.

He calls the band goes. They have Buffalo Trace.

I'm like, I've never heard of that.

He goes, it's a good bottle. It's a great price point.

Right, 100%. It's a good daily, good daily,

good hourly good, yes. Brings it to the office.

That's funny to say. That brings to the office.

That was my introduction to Buffalo Trace products from that I'm like, I like it. And then he was then I started

getting into like, what else do they have?

What's their lineup? Whoa, Eagle Rare, Blanton's, you

know, and then I started leaning more towards those.

But yeah, I mean, it's crazy that to this day I was in specs a week ago and they still had an allocated drop for Buffalo Trace if. You ever need Buffalo Trace?

Let me know. I'll let you know.

I mean, it's a it's AI mean Buffalo Trace is a good drink.

I mean, it's a good port. It's a good, it's a good daily.

It's a good daily. I've just moved to their other

products. Like I mean, the Colonel Taylor

is great, you know, and, and but my daily now has become like McKenna. I mean, it's always available.

It tastes great. It actually makes a good mixed

drink. Like I use it for old fashions I

think. McKenna is kind of expensive for

a daily it. Is, but I mean I've become.

It's all. Regional too.

It's all what, $60.00? There could be $40 here or $70

here, right? And the.

Price or not even available. Here well.

Chase. Point.

Chase told me that the Habiki yes.

Well, Chase told me that he had 4 bottles of McKenna.

He was like, it used to be hard to find.

They were just dropping like maybe 3 drops a year and he was like, it was really hard to find.

Now they're, they're and by the way, I have been told, and I'm not going to, I can't cite this because I don't have any data, but I have been told that the major distilleries, the Buffalo traces of the world are ramping up production.

I have been told that in the last five years they've added additional rig houses. They're pumping this stuff out

because bourbon is There's a bourbon craze, and they've been.

Going on right now, yeah, so. They've been really ramping up

production, so that helps, you know, it helps with the allocated drops. It helps with that.

They're not dropping twice a year.

They may be dropping 4 * a year. But yeah, back to what you said

about to be. I mean, I enjoy it.

It's $100 bottle. Yeah, so the Sam's here.

I saw Hibiki for what did I say, 74 dollars?

Yeah, which is crazy, crazy. And I would have bought one

number one. I don't have the Sam's app on my

phone and I can't tell my wife. Hey, can you give me the Sam's

app? They're going to Hibiki.

I don't know. I.

Need you to buy it but. I also have the bottle that I

bought in Dallas in October downstairs and then I have Hibiki Master Select, which I don't even think is good as good as Harmony. No Harmony.

Is amazing, but I have. AI have the limited 2019 bottle,

maybe 2018. I forgot when I worked out there

in Fort Worth and it's in the closet and I'm never going to open that. No, I'm just going to use it as

trade who I. Mean Who are we kidding?

And 100. Dollars for it is worth like

1500 well. I mean, the crazy thing is it's

like even like Japanese whiskey, there's just such a high increase in the secondary market that I'm not a collector, nor are you to the best. I'm really not.

I no, I don't collect, I buy. You bought a drink I.

Impulse buy. I bought a drink.

That one was bought on accident, sort of when I I bought it as a gift for a friend. Then I realized what it was.

I went back and bought one for myself, but I'm probably going to use that one to pay off a debt and say, here's this bottle. Are we square right?

Well, my thing is like going back to Chase's layers.

I mean, I'm down with horse trading.

I mean, you tell me you're heavy in Blanton's or you're light and whatever. I don't mind coughing up a

bottle to get another bottle. I mean, I did that with him.

That's how I got the Colonel Taylor bottle.

You know, I was like, he's like, I can take another bottle of Blanton's. Cool, give me this, I'll give

you that or whatever case may be.

But I understand where you're coming from because I have bottles that I'm so heavy in one bottle that as soon as someone says, hey man, I really want that bottle, I have a bottle of this. I'm like OK.

You offered me a bottle. I think of blends I did and I

said you said I don't. Want that shit?

It's crazy because I was aggressive in searching for the blends. Once I got all the toppers, I

stopped really carrying and I was capacitated.

I was fully capacitated. I was encumbered, Yes.

With all the bottles of bourbon that I brought back from Texas.

Yeah, you. So I was like, no.

And then you ended up trading. I think maybe Chase, I did.

I. Traded him for a bottle of

Counter Taylor's. Yeah.

And The funny thing is when you say that, the funniest thing is, is that I don't know if it's because of where I'm at, where I have enough bottles that I don't need to go out and hunt anymore.

But it is funny when you get to that place where you go.

I kind of don't need another bottle of Blantons, or I don't need a bottle of X. Weird.

Right, because you know how aggressive you are looking for it. I mean, I remember when I was

like, so we have a, we have an employee who lives in Cincinnati. And for those who may be

familiar with this or may not, Cincinnati has a, there's no markup rule. It's managed by the state.

So they can't, there's no secondary market.

You can't force the price up. So what they do is they do this

lottery system, even Kroger, like a Kroger here or wherever, if you're familiar with Kroger, they have a liquor store.

So they do a lottery driven system to where you if you get picked you must buy the bottle and they sell at that cost.

Kroger brand Fritos, by the way, are the best Fritos on the planet. You may continue.

Like the fact that you. Yeah, because we have those in

Michigan. In Michigan, when I lived there

for, I don't know, 10-15 years when I worked in the Thumb, we do this based on where you live in Michigan.

So when I worked in the Thumb in Bay City, Frankenmuth, there was a Kroger and they had their special brand of Fritos and they were a little thicker, almost like Frito scoops.

They come. In like but it was just plain

Fritos or was it plain OK? For my money, plain Fritos is

the best snack chip on the planet you have.

To be a minority on that I. Probably AM, but if you if you

put Lays, Ruffles, Fritos, we're talking plain non flavored chips, yeah. Non flavored.

And maybe kettle corn, which I mean, not kettle corn, but kettle chips, which I love. I'm going to grab the Fritos

every time, OK? I always laugh because in my

household we're we're a Fritos family, but we're a chili cheese Fritos family. I understand, I understand.

But the crazy thing is, like, you know when you buy the variety box, that's the last bag of chips in that box, it's first. Grab first bag I grabbed.

I, like I said, I mean, I'm, I may be wrong, but I, I, you're probably, you know, one of eight people comment.

If you love Fritos. Plain Fritos, Let's be clear.

Plain Fritos because when I was doing door to door sales, we're going to wrap this up, when I was doing door to door sales in 1995, that's when they were experimenting with the Tabasco Fritos should have. Never happened.

Those are great. I'm.

Sorry, they cancelled. Them, well, my thing.

With Tabasco, is Tabasco really to me tastes more vinegar than anything else Tabasco. Fritos is one of the greatest to

me. It's one of those tragedies of

American culture and when you. Make some great product like.

Lemon ice, Gatorade, Yeah, it's a tragedy they got rid of it, you know, in. Texas, we have the Texas twist

burritos, the tornado one, it's the one that's, oh, the twist.

Yeah, the yeah, the Fritos twist.

I haven't seen those in a long time.

They still go. Hard in Texas.

Interesting, I know. But anyway, you're right, it is

a tragedy when something like a great product just goes missing.

Like bring back great pop tarts. I'm just saying all.

Right. So with that being said, you

don't have, I don't really think you don't really have much of A social media footprint. I do.

Not I actually intentionally avoid it.

Are you on the? Gram, are you on the TikTok

machine? Are you on the Facebook?

I think that I am, and I say this because it's funny when you say that loud. I am on Instagram.

I believe I'm 10 Vol 74 on Instagram.

I am still like out there somewhere on Facebook.

I haven't been on there in a while, but yeah, I live in my presence because at some point, and I'm going to just be blatantly honest, if you have family members that are on these this social media like Facebook and Instagram, who can be an embarrassment, I try to avoid that.

And I have a lot of family members.

I have 33 cousins. Damn, yeah.

And they do some, I mean, just be honest, some good shit.

I'm sorry. I just hit the microphone.

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