A lively discussion kicks off with updates from NHRA qualifiers before diving into a fun game where hosts guess the sale prices of classic cars listed on Hemmings Marketplace. From a stunning 1973 Cadillac Eldorado to a 1963 Chevrolet Impala, the hosts share their insights and playful banter about the value and nostalgia of these vehicles. The episode also explores the complexities of modern automotive wiring systems, highlighting Bentley's innovative 48-volt architecture and its implications for vehicle performance and diagnostics. Special guest Gina shares her new role at Rogers Dabs Chevrolet, focusing on performance parts.
Topics:classic carscar pricing gamewiring systems48-volt architectureperformance partsNHRA updatesnostalgia in cars
Buckle up as we go on a thrilling joyride through the world of vintage automobiles sold on Hemmings Marketplace, from the crimson allure of a 1973 Cadillac El Dorado convertible to the timeless elegance of a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air. Join in the fun as Konrad, Mike and Jeff, place our bets on these vehicular beauties' selling prices, with Jeff taking the trophy for precise guesswork. But that's not all - we also spotlight our skilled friends at NHRA who might just bring home the coveted Wally!
Under the hood of every modern car lies a labyrinth of wiring systems. We jumpstart a rather electrifying conversation about the intricacies of these modern marvels and contemplate Bentley's avant-garde 48-volt electrical system.
On a similar note, we shine a light on Gina's latest venture with Rogers Dabbs Chevrolet, a Chevrolet dealership doing wonders in the world of factory automobile performance parts. Not forgetting our friends at NHRA, their triumphs, and the ever-present possibility of bagging a Wally. Buckle up for this exciting journey into the past and future of automobiles, peppered with friendly competition and plenty of intriguing discussions!
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I'm so happy, though I.
Bet you are, you always are when you're on yourself free Britain.
So I had somebody asked me in this week what does Mars do?
He, he keeps he's the booker.
He keeps this into the table level.
That's it, that's right.
He's, he's the, he's the red of our red, white and blue.
That's what you Yankee doodle yeah oh, just a small update for friends of ours is a at NHRA stock eliminator, speedy Emmons is qualified 11th and Jerry Emmons is qualified 12th.
Stan Holt in Superstock is qualified Third and Dale Holquist, our other friend, is qualified fourth.
Oh my god, where's the?
chicken we're getting a.
Wally.
We're getting a while Where's the chick with the stick.
I'm looking, I haven't seen who stands?
wife, that's yeah, she doesn't know.
Yeah, and then Harvey Emmons is qualified 30th.
Gary is 33rd super stock.
We're gonna put the Wally, right up here somewhere.
We get it because we've been promised a wall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he wins when he's gonna give us a wall.
I got a neighbor named Wally.
We could bring him in.
Is the guy's name really wall.
Yeah, he's a brother of Ezekiel, is it?
He's brother oh my god, we've got a new pilot.
His last name is Ward.
His last name is Ward.
I said Do you know Ward Cleaver?
He said who?
He's that young, yeah, everybody this is a bit of trivia.
Whitney 127, 86.
That's their phone number.
That was allegedly there.
The cleaver phone number, was it?
How would you know?
that because it's some trivia thing that it's stuck in my head because he watches me TV all the time.
Yeah, I do too.
Actually, the Andy Griffith show it's on my agenda as soon as I get home.
I have to cat he hates it because I'm always watching Perry Mason.
I know, yeah, you said that I've I've not gotten into Perry Mason, nor have I got into the other Andy Griffith show, our FD very.
Rf no, the.
Where is the atary Matlock?
Yeah, all right.
You know Hemmings publishes their sold cars roundup once a week and and Emmings marketplace it's called people can put their car on there to sell their car.
Some of them are just regular everyday drivers.
Most of these are Collector cars, if you want to call it that.
You know there's some customs on here, but very few, and so I pick out what I think is something fun for us to look at so is this for us, who comes closest without going over, oh, you get a score sheet.
We're gonna.
We're gonna start scoring.
Okay, I like it.
Yeah, let's do that.
You hadn't scored since the 70s.
I scored twice in the in the 80s because I have two kids.
There you go.
All right, so our first car up is for Jeff.
Oh, and that would be a Cadillac.
Yeah, this is a 1973, and so, whatever it is, it doesn't make any difference, it's humongous.
1973 Cadillac El Dorado.
Tabal, my god.
It's a red on red convertible.
It's done.
It doesn't say that okay it it's stunningly beautiful.
Of course, it may be full of rust, we don't know that.
Those details okay, I'll show you the picture in just a second.
So what is your guess of the price of this car?
It looks good.
Let's start with Mike 22,000 Mars is a good convertible.
Okay.
I'm gonna say 28, 28, 17 17.
Really Well, all of you are wrong, but close.
Not, you're not close.
No, it went for $26,250.
Mars wins because he didn't go over.
He didn't go over, oh yeah so you didn't want to do the Corvair pickup truck.
No, I don't.
I don't know that maybe I shouldn't be that with a v8.
I Shouldn't be giving that all right next up a 1963 Chevrolet Impala.
Convertible 63 impala rag top.
Highly desirable car.
Yes, so keep that in mind when you guess the price 46 30 35.
Mars 25.
Well, the sold price of the 1963 Chevrolet Impala on Hemmings Marketplace was $53,550.
Wow, holy moly, that's a lot of dough, it is For a car that probably cost about two grand when it was new.
Well, and it's not, did they never hit?
Did they say it was an Impala SS or?
anything like that.
No.
I don't know those details.
You could probably get that if you clicked on it and drilled down.
You probably know that.
Yeah, but yeah, that's not the purpose of this.
This is a general overview.
Okay, so I had to put a classic in here.
Okay, a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air.
White walls, black exterior, red interior.
And Bel Air was top of the line in 57.
Yes.
Yep, so let's start with Mr Mars.
That would be your guess on something like that.
It looks good.
That's all I can tell you.
Yeah, but those things that you look at, it's stupid money.
I'm going to say 50.
Pull that microphone closer there, Mr Non Radio.
I'm going to say 50.
50.
I'll say 55.
32.
$43,050.
Yeah.
Well, give that to Jeff, because he didn't go over.
Yeah, but you put the boat there like a dime a dozen now.
Yeah, but when they're original, like that, that's nostalgia, that's somebody's.
Oh.
I had a memory whenever I did this.
But when you sell it, who's going to keep that memory?
They're going to tub it out, unless it.
You don't buy that kind of car for that.
Well, you might, yeah.
No, you buy that because that's where you.
What condition?
is it?
Is it got rock or rust?
All that you don't know.
No, no, this one here is big, this is Cherry.
It's not an original, it's been Tweaked.
No, it hasn't been tweaked, it's restored to an original look.
Let me put it that way.
We don't know if it's got an LS in it, but oh, we left that out we didn't know, I don't know any of that.
Why would you do that to a 57 car?
That's all it looks stock.
I mean either you put it, I would never Cherry factory, or you rest a mod at me, done with it.
I would know.
I know Either way it could go on Hot Rod Tour of Texas.
Either way.
Yes, it could.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right For you pickup lovers, the 1994 Chevrolet 1500.
It's a two-tone because they had that different color down along the rocker panel.
It looks like it's got a custom grille in it.
It's got updated headlights on it.
It looks to me like it's either a crew cab or an extended cab.
It's not a single cab.
So 1994 Chevy 1500, it's clean, looks like it's got Corvette wheels on it or something.
But it's not overdone, it's not crazy, it's nothing like that.
It looks like a stock pickup truck with those old stock mirrors on it.
Very clean, okay, it's 94 Chevy 1500.
How much?
I'll say 50.
50.
Mars Say 15.
Okay, Eight grand 17850 is what it sold for 17850.
Which?
They're very popular, but that's a little bit earlier in those square bodies, yeah.
It's 1994.
Yeah, it's just coming out of that you don't see a lot of car shows.
This is for Conrad.
Not that you could fit in it None of us could, I don't think.
A 1987 Fiat X19.
Oh gosh, and it looks like it's in process of being restored.
So my guess is so it is on a tow truck?
No, no, but it's close.
It's on drive up ramps.
Ah, all right, it's red in color, it's got tires and wheels on it, but it prob.
I don't know it may or may not.
Tires and wheels doubles the price.
Well, it may not have a motor in it, based on the price.
So there's a hint as for the sold price on this Fiat X19.
And it's actually on himmings, yes, it's on himmings.
Sold car Times must be getting hard.
I'll say 2000.
Nah, I'm going to say 5.
5000.
I'm tossed, I'm going to.
I'm 3,300.
1,900.
See, he threw that one in there.
Yeah, yeah, I'm finally got one, he finally got one that's on himmings Now to me, this would be highly desirable to me.
69 Camaro Nope, but it's not that far off.
This is a 1964 Chevrolet El Camino.
No, very much, like Randy showed us on Correct.
Well, no, it's maybe the same body style but it's like what?
he's got.
It's a driver, it's clean, it's one color, it's that you know.
Sky-missed blue or whatever it is yeah, aqua, yeah.
What year.
1964, el Camino.
First year I'll say 12.
I'm going to go 18.
I'm going to go 10.
I'm going to go 18.
I'm going to go 10.
Mars $19,950.
He's into that old stuff.
You know what.
It's an emotional buy at that point, it's not.
It's like ooh, that's cool.
No, it's like you can see one of your kids in that, Something like that.
You know it's always something like that.
Or you had one at one time, yeah, or I wish I'd have had that, because Joe Blow had one in high school and it was see if that, based on the price, I'm not sure about what condition it's in, but it's not that it's not that.
Just trying to see what condition.
my condition was in it's a very square body like the one that Randy had.
It's got a little more style to it because they upgraded it, but it's pretty plain 64 El Camino for $19,950.
See, I'm still a pretty desirable because I'm having these pangs about getting rid of the Corvette.
You're getting rid of the Corvette I said, I have the pangs P-A-N-G apostrophe S.
I have drugs for that.
Now you know that.
So I'm thinking, you know, I would really, really like to have cash, something along that line, and cash and I don't know.
It kind of speaks to me, but not totally Just saying Well, if you have one out there, send it to Don.
This is for you, mars, he'll road test it for you.
No, this is for one of your grandkids?
Okay, because you, you know, 1984 Toyota Supra, ooh.
Yeah, it's 84.
So, it's a Mark III, it's an 84 Supra.
I don't know anything about the details of it.
Okay, it's black, it looks stock and with that model here it's probably got 300,000 miles on it.
Yeah, but it could have a thousand horsepower.
Yeah, I bet, I bet.
And it didn't have either one.
No, it doesn't.
It looks it being on himmings it looks on, bring a trailer or something you might.
Yeah, I would don't know the rust level or all any of that sort of stuff, and that's in that era.
I'll say, I'll say 28.
Really yeah, I'm thinking more like 17.
10.
Jeff wins.
No, actually, none of you win.
What Is it sold for $4,000?
Super cheap.
Here's one this is for.
Let's see, I don't know who this is for it's not going to be me, because I'm not big on that body style but a 1948 Chevrolet fleet master looks like grandpa's car, except it was painted yellow and it's got some.
Grandpa drove a taxi.
Jason's got a 50 fleet line.
Oh God, this is not my cup of tea, but apparently it's a pretty nice car.
Let me just leave it at that 48 Chevrolet fleet master canary yellow, two door 5500.
Mars 7500.
9500.
Well, 25,700 dollars.
Is it the?
I must have missed something.
Is it Tweety Yellow?
Like it is Tweety Yellow.
Yes, yeah, um.
Here's one for you, conrad, a 1974 72 Ford F 350 camper, you know camper, I like it $16,000.
All right, here's a high boy.
Thirty two Ford Roadster, oh, thirty two Ford Roadster, uh, black, it's a convertible, obviously, and it's it looks like a full custom, except for, except for the frame.
Two roads Didn't say anything about the motor.
No, I don't have that.
Don't see any blowers or anything.
No, there's nothing sticking out of the hood because it's too damn tall.
All right Then full fenders, no fenders, no fenders.
Okay, 43.
I was going to go 44.
35 Conrad.
Thirty four thousand six hundred and fifty dollars.
Now that would be something that I would be interested in.
Road tripping.
Yeah, yeah, oh, I agree A hundred percent.
That's what I went 43.
I need room.
Got much under the hood or a seat in the back, then they're up over.
No, I've got the car for you.
No, you got it.
I got the car for you.
Okay, Mars Need a car.
Okay, this is perfect, this is right up your alley.
I need it.
It's got wood, green paneling on the side of it, vinyl, a nineteen, ninety two Dodge Grand Caravan Hold me back, hold me back.
It's still in the crate.
No, no, it's not in the crate.
This is got the woods.
Got the woods, it's got you up.
Yeah, ninety two Dodge Grand Caravan.
Jeff, your bid seven thousand Five thousand five thousand your bid.
I'm going to go ten eight hundred dollars.
Why is it on Heming?
That's a Craigslist car.
Oh my God, that's that's truly.
Bring a trailer, because that's the only way you can get it home.
Well, you got to get your TR six off.
It or T I, whatever that was the yacht X forty one nine, oh my God.
Well, that was fun.
Love it.
All right, so we can do news, or does anybody got anything else?
You want to do the?
wires and we do the wires.
Let me get to the wire.
Let's talk wire.
Let me get to it.
I'll head because I will tell you there is nothing more confusing and more complicated than a wiring schematic of a car.
It is the most bizarre messed up, jacked up.
That would drive me totally insane.
That's why Richard Tomlin at Apex Auto Works has the Corvette trying to find the drain on the battery.
I'm telling you.
Well, I found this because I was researching how many parts in a car.
I was just doing some new land around the Internet and the majority of today's vehicle faults are electrical rather than mechanical, conrad.
You know that, and we don't need a thousand words to explain it.
But recently this is what happened and this is what I found that Bentley has released a fascinating image of its Bentega SUV that it reveals its incredibly complex wiring harness.
Just like the nerve cells and fibers that transmit crucial pulses across the human body, the harness is responsible for interconnecting the Bentley's vast electrical network.
There are actually seven different networks at play in this photograph, operating at different speeds for varying uses, but all are integrated to share information as necessary.
Virtually all modern cars feature such electrical networks through only the related, as in an Audi Q7, especially the advanced SQ7 variant.
This is where it comes into play.
Both the Bentayga and the SQ7 feature the world's first get this, conrad 48 volt electrical system, which is secondary to the main system and is commonly a 12 volt on today's cars.
So it's 48.
Both the Bentayga and the SQ7 feature the world's first 40 electrical system.
As we talked about, the 48 system is used for the electric, electro mechanical active roll control that gives them, in Tega and the SQ7, variable axle speed the articulation depending on the weather and the SUV traveling on or off the road.
If you're wondering why it's so complex, there are barely any features that are depending on it.
Everything you have in that works off the electrical system.
Beyond common driver system features such as Electrol, electronic stability control and hill descent, the Bentayga employs multiple camera systems adaptive cruise control, traffic sign recognition, birds-eye view, semi-automatic parking and infrared night vision.
So all of that is an awareness and All of those different networks.
Multiple modules talk on a network, so it's called in the.
In the car business it's called multiplexing.
Or can network which is controlled is common Area network.
So and all of that, those different networks all talk at different speeds, multiplexing.
Gm kind of started putting in cars back in the in the late 80s, early 90s and the.
The way it works is you've got seven or eight modules that are talking on one wire and Each module knows the sequence when the next module is supposed to talk.
So it starts with a, the next module talks be, the next module talks see, and If it gets out of sequence, that's when your check engine light starts coming on.
It starts throwing codes and one of the you know, one of the biggest code fears in Technician world is a u-code, which u-code means it's a communication code error.
So one of the modules either isn't speaking in their space on the multiplex or it's speaking out of turn on the multiplex and Can be extremely difficult to diagnose if you don't understand how it works and can be very expensive for Inexperienced people to repair because the first thing they do is they just start throwing modules at the car.
Yep right and cutting wires and reconnecting.
Yeah well, you can't cut wires anymore.
I'm gonna mess it up.
That's why it was fascinating to look, as I think it looked like a circulatory system.
And that's right, yeah, exactly, and the 48 volts.
Now today's modern vehicles be a car issue, be a truck have over a mile of wire in their vehicle.
Oh man, in 1948 I think they said it was like 110 feet of wire in a vehicle back then.
So anywhere from three modules to now Infinity.
Well they've been talking about going to a different voltage in the system.
Yes, because of all the years because there's too much To operate with just a 12 volt system and it's no longer a single battery system.
There's always sitting in the modern cars.
Now some of them have two batteries.
And many of the modules will start setting codes if the battery voltage goes low.
Because of the battery voltage goes low, things stop working.
So then they get out of sequence on these multiplex in other words, it's all jacked up.
Relates to what you're good experiencing with the Corvette.
Yes, yeah, yeah, a seat switch.
Oh, you keep pointing at your computer because we have somebody on there.
Well, that's because the guest is here.
Well, I know, are they scheduled to be here right now?
Yes, they are.
Yeah, oh, all right, well, On time, okay, gina.
Hello guys how are you Gina?
I'm here.
How are you?
Well, we're here, so it's.
It's good to see you again.
I haven't spoken with you in quite some time.
We're Facebook friends, so I keep up with her through Facebook, but that's about it.
So tell me what's going on.
Oh, Same old stuff a little bit of racing, a little bit of working.
Yeah, mr Mars, can you help?
me here.
Well, so so Gina is has got a new endeavor, okay, and and so she's going to give us a quick look at what she's got going on, because they're now advertising with us, yep.
Yes, sir, of course, and this is a place to advertise.
Yes.
That's for sure.
Absolutely so.
Tell us a little bit about what you got going on, gina.
I Am working with and for Rogers Dabs Chevrolet.
They're out of Brandon Mississippi.
It's a small dealership with a Huge parts department.
They're the number two powertrain dealer in the US.
Wow and what.
What they hired me to do is to kind of grow their performance side.
They just, you know, got the performance side about two years ago and they came to me when I was running mobile and Wanted to sponsor the racetrack and wanted to put up a sign to sell engines.
And I said you're gonna have to do a lot more than that to sell engines to race car drivers.
And I told them I'd help them with that.
And when I left mobile they called me up and said hey, we want you to do the same thing.
And here I am.
So I basically sell any GM parts engines, transmissions, anything, gm OEM parts, everything but my focus is on Performance.
I can sell it all, but I really build relationships with the racetracks, advertise with them.
I go to drivers meetings and meet the racers and tell them about our engine program.
Well, you know, it's funny because back when I worked at the Chevrolet dealership here in town, richardson, which is not business anymore that we had a catalog called GM performance catalog and it was like the Bible For everybody that was in the streets and I assume that they've got some form of that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, well, you know, and it's.
It's crate engines, crate transmissions, right, the combination of engine transmissions, control modules that you can buy anywhere from a 300 horsepower package on up to a thousand horsepower package and a ten speed transmission.
So it kind of Goes the full range of what you want for a street car.
You know, yeah, jeff talks about tub it out and put an LS in it.
This is where you'd go to buy your LS, because you could buy the transmission, the engine and these, the engine control module, all together, all designed to work together and basically bolted in.
Another thing GM performance does is they actually sell a Spec engine to certain race categories, certain race series.
They're required to buy that spec engines, a sealed engine from General Motors to run it correct, and Roger dabs would be a location they can go get it through as well.
That is correct and I'm a firm believer in the crate motor program.
Now, I know there's certain classes that I believe as a racer.
There's certain classes where you should have open an open engine and you should like a modified that's why they're called modified.
But there are also classes that a crate motor benefits because of the cost.
When you have a field of 15 racers and let's say, three of them have a beefed up engine which is a straight crate that they send off and have additional horsepower found in it, so you have a guy up the three guys running $50,000 engines and you've got fifth.
You know the other.
But Well, guys running you know a $6,000 engine halfway through the season and those guys are gonna get tired of chasing and they're gonna start missing races and save the money and go into Disney.
You gotta love this level playing field, yeah it really does the crate motor.
I'm excited to be a part of this part of racing because I firmly believe in it.
So, along with the racing, though there's there's the the street performance side of it, the hot rodders.
You know that if you're building a car and you want a crate motor, I mean, that's an easy way to get your crate mode, get a motor and transmission together to put in there you can rely on and a fully integrated system.
You know, that's, that's the beauty of what General Motors does is it's a fully integrated System.
The engine and transmission are paired together and the ECM controls both of them, knowing what each Each of them can do.
So it's it's.
It's basically a plug-and-play and I just looked online and it's really an easy thing to remember RDC 123.com
Rogers dab, chevrolet performance.
That's right how did, I do.
You're awesome, as usual.
We're gonna roll your commercial right out of the box here, yeah so, gina, we love you.
Thank you, it's great to talk to you and we will be in touch soon.
All right guys.
Thank you very much, looking forward to it.
You bet Rogers dab, chevrolet and GM performance has the absolute best price that you're gonna find on GM parts, transmissions and engines in the country With the largest inventory as well that you're gonna find in the US.
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The original group of loopy tortilla restaurants will have you telling your family and friends just what the original recipes mean when it comes to the best fajitas in southeast Texas.
Founder Stan Holt invites you to visit the original loopy tortilla near I-10 at Highway 6.
Here's the original house that inspired the design of all the rest and the original charm that helped make loopy tortilla the go-to destination for Houston Tex-Mex.
Speaking of original, nothing can compete with the original lime pepper marinade that everyone will agree makes loopy tortilla award-winning beef fajitas, the best anywhere.
Loopy tortilla Katie is another location that gives you the same quality and service Houstonians have come to expect at loopies.
It's located just off I-10 of the Grand Parkway.
At Kingsland Boulevard in Katie, find yourself an Aggie land Head to the loopy tortilla college station, located just around the corner from Kyle Field.
It's a great place to enjoy those famous frozen margaritas before or after the game.
Head to East, to Louisiana.
Stop in at the loopy tortilla in Beaumont.
It twos on I-10.
You can't miss it.
The original group of loopy tortilla restaurants invites you in for the best Tex-Mex anywhere.
Houston's finest cars are invited to another Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday December 2nd, and you're invited too.
Show off your personal pride and joy, or just stop in to see the likes of Lucid Lamborghini, porsche, ferrari and more.
Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your one-stop shop for paint detailing, coatings, window tint, clear bras and wheel repair.
The Car Social is your opportunity to get a tour of this state-of-the-art facility located at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
It all takes place Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon.
This is the perfect opportunity to connect with other car enthusiasts, from BMWs to mentallys, corvettes to McLarens.
The Car Social is a different kind of show.
Talk to the owners.
See Gulf Coast Auto Shield's facility.
You'll be amazed.
Put it on your calendar now the Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
The In Wheel Time Car Talk Show will be there too.
We'll see you then.
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