From Crash Scene Protocols to the Future of Automated Cars: Unpacking Traffic Realities with Sergeant Steven Woodard
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We're going to talk to DPS State Trooper, mr Sergeant Steven Woodard, about new laws now in effect and other things Plus.
We'll get you caught up on the stories making automotive news headlines this week.
Howdy, along with Mike out of this World of R's King, conrad DeLong.
We always need more, jeff Zeekin.
I'm, don Armstrong, glad you could join us today.
Now let's go to DPS headquarters and let's talk to Sergeant Steven Woodard.
Hi-ho, steve Arrino.
Jeff, how do you deal with those three man?
I drink a lot.
You drink so much?
Yeah, well, there's that.
Where are you?
Are you at work?
Well, I'm at an exclusive location.
Let's just say I'm available.
You're not down in Laredo, are you?
No, I'm not down in Laredo.
No, there's nothing, I didn't lose nothing down there.
Yeah, hey, I have to tell you something.
Fellas Brother Don did a real good job out there in the rural area of Texas when we were trying to capture that guy that conducted an egregious just the horrible and Don knows what I'm talking about.
We appreciate the coverage.
Don man, that was a horrible scene on the ground level, but I was listening to you from the bottom and through the news feed.
You did a wonderful job out there when we had that standoff.
Thank you, thanks, steve, I appreciate that.
You know I try to-.
Appreciate you doing what you do for us.
I try to be very cognizant of what you guys are up to and the stuff that you are up against and I don't need to add to the pressure of trying to capture people and that sort of thing.
And so you know the television station relies on me to kind of use my best judgment.
And you know it's very easy, especially when you get into some sort of a standoff, to give away locations when you're up there at 1500 feet, and I'm very well aware of that.
And so I'm very cognizant of that and love you guys and want to do it the safe way to get the coverage but also keep you guys protected as much as I can.
Yeah, I noticed that and I'm gonna get to it, but I just I wanted to take this opportunity.
So, fellas, you know not getting too much into it, because I called and asked if I could talk about it and they said not much.
But I will say this so, the professionalism and Don, he understands how we roll and he could have gave some information, but he didn't put out you know exact, you know integral information, because he knew it was a tactical situation and, believe it or not, guys, you know that guy was watching the news as well.
So a lot of times during those standoffs they just hang out and they listen to the news to see if they can get some information on how they could, you know, basically come back or get away.
And, man, you were spot on it.
So let me, let me get it.
You know I love you, man, I'm gonna get away from the bushy stuff.
Okay, Let me just clarify.
If somebody doesn't know, Don is Channel 13, the local Houston ABC affiliate, their eye in the sky.
He is the helicopter reporter.
So, just in case you weren't aware, that's really what he's talking about is some of his duties and a lot of people eye for one.
Get to where I want to talk to Phil Deadair.
Don's smart enough and professional enough.
He knows better than to do that with things like you're talking about.
And we're so glad that Don is professional on Channel 13, because here he's out of control yeah.
Well.
I got nothing to say.
On 13, don's in the air.
Here he's full air.
And all of it's hot.
So, fellas, I'm gonna tell you something.
Last year was pretty interesting when it came to crashes.
We almost came close to the same exact number fatalities 4,000 plus in the state.
I have a number, but I want to hold off on giving that number because there's still some crashes pending.
As a matter of fact, there was a unfortunate crash in Beaumont in the Beaumont area, if you will and the very next day, which was the next year, the individual ended up passing.
So that changed numbers.
But I will tell you and I've said this for years on this program driving is the most dangerous thing any one of us can do and we just have to be careful.
Let me bring something up to you.
People always ask if I'm involved in a vehicle crash, because in law enforcement Don we don't say accident, we say crash.
And if I'm involved in a vehicle crash or a collision, what in the hell?
What do I do?
Well, first off, it's your responsibility, after making sure you're good and if you can move, it's your responsibility to make sure that the other party that's involved is okay.
Number two take pictures, take pictures, take pictures.
You would not believe how many times people call my office every Monday or Tuesday asking for information on their crash.
If you go to the DPS website and you click in, ask a trooper a question, I'm one of those troopers for eight counties and people call all the time, every Monday and Tuesday, asking for information on their crash because they didn't get the ample amount of pictures or the information.
Take pictures.
We're gonna take our pictures, but you need to take yours.
Take pictures.
Take pictures.
All law enforcement entities all over the state of Texas, all law enforcement entities understand that the individuals involved need to take pictures.
So long gone the day of hey, you need to stand over here and we need to conduct the investigation.
No, they're gonna allow you to take the pictures.
Exchange information.
That's so important.
Make sure, before you leave that unfortunate crash scene, that you get the other party's information and that they get yours.
Is it legal for you to move off the roadway when a crash happens?
Yes, you can.
So you get into an unfortunate crash on 610 or ITN or whatever, and the vehicles are drivable.
Both parties are okay physically.
We advise you to move that vehicle off of the road because I promise you, brother Mars, I promise you there's another crash about to happen with yours.
So we advise that folks to move off the road.
That's gonna be my theme for a couple of months.
If you're involved in a crash, move off of the road.
Technology, video and all that other stuff is so prevalent here within the state and within the city.
We don't need vehicles to stay on the scene until law enforcement gets there, because it may take them a while.
Fellas, I will tell you, one of the biggest problems that we have in our community is folks driving on the shoulder.
You know you can drive on the shoulder.
There's seven times that you're allowed to drive on the shoulder.
Number one, of course, is if you're gonna stop the vehicle and check for any malfunctions.
Second one, of course, is if you're gonna actually accelerate to make a right turn.
And that's where the confusion comes in.
People use that shoulder as their own lane, as their own travel lane, and they use the shoulder to avoid 20 cars to get to that light, to make the right turn.
Well, the state law tells us that you can use that lane to basically well de-accelerate to make the right turn.
So, as you're approaching that light, you say, okay, well, there it is.
There's three cars ahead of me, let me continue on and slow down to make the right turn.
You gotta be smart about that.
I promise you, if a state trooper sees you driving on the lane using that shoulder for your own lane, you're gonna get stopped.
That's just how it is.
Of course we use the shoulder to avoid a collision.
If we're directed by the police, we can use the shoulder.
We can use the shoulder, of course, to drive over.
The vehicle is traveling more faster than us in the rear.
You got some guy being silly and he's driving aggressively and he's coming up on your rear Guess what.
You can drive on the shoulder to let that.
You know what get out of your way.
But again, the shoulder's not our own lane.
It's a lane, of course, for disabled vehicles and the visitors that are stopped, that are adjusting the car seat for the baby or whatever the case.
We cannot use the shoulder as our own lane.
What you gonna find out, don and they're probably broadcast this a couple of times this year on air the racing, I will tell you.
The racing in Houston has decreased because of the new law change and the individuals are aware of that.
But you're probably going to see more task force throughout the year because individuals that are racing not only did they cause danger to themselves, but those that are around them.
Let me just interrupt you and just say you know where we're broadcasting from is not too far from Highway 90A out here in Sugarland and it's a very nice area, a great big three, four lane road on Highway 90A, going in both directions, and I will tell you that I can be in my bedroom at night and I can hear them racing on Highway 90A and it just drives me absolutely insane.
Open mufflers I mean motorcycles.
There was a bunch of motorcycles here just a couple of weeks ago that came down Highway 90A and I guess they got the green light from a stop and they let it rip all the way to the next light and I'm wondering would that be something that the Sugarland police would take care of, or would DPS take that?
We'll take care of it.
What I'll do is I'll read you, because Fort Bend is one of my counties and you know we work with Sugarland Police Department a lot.
But what I'll do is a brother Mars sound like we got a snitching house.
I'll advise my guys Monday morning.
Once we get through the weekend, I'll advise them Monday morning and I'll reach out to Sugarland because, hey, we got to come back that stuff.
Here's the deal, guys.
If we don't slow those folks down, we're going to end up working a fatality.
So that's just the bottom line.
So is it drag racing or is it like top end type racing?
It could be drag, or it could be, you know, an acceleration test, just to just in an individual just just having a blast, which, hey, I look, guys, I get it.
You know what I mean.
There's a place, and if you schedule it, a time to do that, and there's several areas where they'll allow you, you know, with an anomaly, to go on their track and take care of business.
Well, I will tell you that, being a drag racing guy, we don't like to call that drag racing, we call it street racing.
Is what it is and however you want to look at it, it doesn't make any difference.
And hey look, you know, there was a time in my life when I was a teenager and really got into cars and that sort of stuff.
We would go out on a road way out.
There was nobody on it, nobody.
There were no streets coming into the road.
It was at least a mile long.
Now we didn't race for a mile long.
It is Model T.
Yeah, my Model T, but there was nobody there, right, and you know, if you got to do something like that, pick your place, but don't do it on Highway 98.
We're like you where we live.
We're close enough to the highway.
There's an overpass, and late at night, particularly on the weekend, and it's mainly motorcycles you can tell the way they sound they come over that overpass.
They got a nice long stretch speed limit, 75 anyway, and you can hear them wind up, and I mean you can hear them all over town and they're already doing 60, 70.
And then I don't know how fast I'm thinking it was probably somebody that got a car from the media pool and they're doing a car review.
Yeah, that's what it is.
I got a question for Conor at yes, sir, so let me ask you this, and we all talked about Tesla's and these automated vehicles.
I'm going to tell you something, boys, a new law book came out and I'm actually teaching at the Houston Police.
I teach the transportation code for the Houston Police Department for their Academy.
So, if you want to know, all Houston police officers for the past 13 years had to go through me to learn about Texas laws when it comes to stopping vehicles, and I'm telling you that automated vehicle section is thick.
Let me ask you something real quick.
Why is this?
Every time we get a crash dealing with the Tesla, my phone rings off the hook from the media.
What is what do you?
What is that?
What do you think?
Because Tesla you know Tesla's.
They've bragged about their self driving system and I think everybody's wondering was the self driving system engaged and was that?
I'm not going to say the cause of the crash, but was it an attributing factor to the crash?
Because self driving is a stupid name for a feature on a vehicle, because the car doesn't self drive, you still have to be paying attention to it.
But you know, the thought is was the driver absolutely paying no attention and the self driving system got lost and that's what caused the crash.
And you know that features on more than just Tesla's, that features on a number of other cars.
I think Ford calls it blue cruise, yeah, general Motors calls it super cruise.
They all have these automated driving features, which I think is a horrible thing to advertise.
You know, you look at the GMC truck one and here they are clapping.
See cars driving, yeah, and the guy's got a trailer behind him and he's using super cruise dumb advertising.
But you know we, you know not the first time.
GM's done some.
Yeah, and what people don't realize when you see that they're on a straight road, on a bridge that's got plenty of marking on it for the systems to pick up on and never fail.
They never show that when you're going around a curve or intersections, because the system doesn't work.
But I think that's why the media calls you is because they're trying to find out whether or not, the automatic driving system was an attributing factor to it.
The funny thing is, Tesla knows.
Tesla can tell you.
You know they can download data out of the car.
General Motors can download data out of the car because of on star, and they know whether or not the automatic driving system was engaged when that vehicle was involved in the impact.
Well, I tell you I am a fan of technology, but we'll see what the future takes us.
What I do know is that I'll just I'll just put this out here.
What I do know last year on paper as of now we had 4,176, 4,176 folks die in vehicle crashes, and I'm going to tell you that that's an astronomical number.
When you think about it, driving is the most dangerous thing and every last one of us will do every single day.
It's very important.
Number one we need to be mindful.
You know, look to the left, look to the right, you know, look around as we get that.
But one thing that a lot of us forget we have to do those self inspections on our vehicles, making sure that our tires are, of course.
I stopped the guy coming from Austin the other day and he was it was a truck, tractor and trailer.
I mean the tires looked like the top of my head.
I stopped the guy the other day.
We had a load on the back of his vehicle that was so, the load was so heavy to where the tires were rubbing on the inner portion of the fender wells.
I mean, we got to make sure that the vehicles that we're driving are safe to travel down the road.
I've got.
I've got something to say about that Now.
During covid and all the transportation issues that were going on, they were looking for truck drivers and support for transportation for long haul.
They were looking to hire people because they didn't have enough.
Who did they hire?
Are they?
Are the independence?
Are they going through the proper training?
Are these people that shouldn't be on the road to begin with that are using these vehicles?
I'm feeling the pain there because I see it too.
Yeah, well, I'm going to tell you something and I've said this live on air before what will we be without our truck drivers?
But they have to be in compliance.
And you know, I had a guy called me oh man, this week is flown by had a guy called me Thursday and he had an international CDL and international commercial driver's license and he wanted to go ahead and get that switched over to.
A Texas CDL can do it, man, you got to go through our system.
What I will say is boys, we are very hard on our truck drivers, very, but we need them to be in compliance because what I will tell you and I just did a live shot for channel 13 the other day, right there on my 10 had an h eb truck, uh, lose control and next thing you know, the roadway shut down For six hours.
So it's a little different from a fender bender between a two vehicles or three vehicles versus a truck, tractor and trailer.
It turns into a actual A traffic logistical mess.
Yes, so a 4 000 pound car doesn't have the impact strength of an 80 000 pound fully loaded rig.
Yes, sir.
Well, three ways we can reduce fatalities, fellas.
Number one, of course, the enforcement.
You know the boys and girls of law enforcement.
We have to be out there, stopping the cars being visible and meeting the people.
Number two we got to make sure we educate the people, and I thank, in will time, for allowing me, through the years, to come and help Educate our folks, you know, of course, with the help of you guys.
And three and something neither one of us have control over, and that's roadway engineering.
Text dot.
They have to continue doing the great job that they do, putting up the barriers, uh, trying to fill the potholes.
I will tell you this, fellas, if it wasn't for that concrete barrier the other day, that 18 will, it would have went right across it and and that would have been a different crash.
And I'll tell you what steve.
I sure do see a lot more head-on crashes these days.
I don't know what's up with that Head-on crashes is terrible.
We had, we had one this morning, unfortunately, uh, literally one this morning.
So you got to pay attention, brother, done and uh, that's just in our everyday lives.
This, this is a good life that we live, and 2024 is going to be a good year, fellas, I think it's going to be our year.
I think I think we're gonna get done, see, done.
I put him in the category A great journey.
It was like larry king, uh, waltz across.
I was thinking more like don king.
Yeah, we go with the hot air crap again.
Steve, we love talking to you.
Brother, thank you so much for joining us today.
We wish you a great day and and you're your give your family our love, and I hope the boys are doing well.
I will.
While we're all here, can we put in a vote?
Can we get brother marz or raise?
Yes, yes, chair.
You said that like five or six years ago.
Yeah, exactly, steve.
Thanks again, man.
We always enjoy talking to you.
Take care yourself.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you, sorry to steven woodard dps.
Steep trooper, always fun.
Oh, yes, yeah, absolutely.
I got some uh Recalls to tell you about, not just some a lot Uh-oh for motor company recalling 112 965 f-150 trucks because of a potential issue with the rear axle hub bolt that could increase the risk of rolling away or crashing.
So how many times through the years have we done a Recall on a ford that wouldn't stay in park?
Rolling away, rolling away and crashing.
Yeah, dozens of them.
Yeah, in july 4th, recall 870 000 f-150s because of an unexpected parking brake activation.
Well, there you go.
There's more.
A driver's airbag may become deactivated in all of the ford f-series for 23 model year.
All of them, you won't find that out till you need it.
Yep, bmw 430i cylinder head cover may crack and leak oil.
Yep, you're real aware of this.
This is the valve cover gas brand new, 2024.
I wish we'd feel go oh cylinder head cover.
But same thing.
Airbag may not deploy properly in the Toyota Corolla cross.
However many, they don't sell many of those.
2022 to 23 lexus.
What is an ocs sensor?
Ocs obsessive, compulsive.
Uh uh, ocs occupant sensor.
Maybe it's part of the airbag system, I don't know.
The passenger side.
Lots of lexuses and lots of toyotas not going to go through it from 2020 to 2022 models.
And I'll give you uh well, look for the vin on your car, it's probably in your wallet with your insurance card and you plug that into safer car dot gov.
There's a blank there and it'll tell you whether your car is being recalled.
Occupant classification system, so it tells you whether or not there's a passenger in the passenger seat.
Uh, high voltage battery modules may overheat.
On the Audi e-tron for 2019 to 2022 only once, only once.
Door strikers may fracture On the Chevy blazer equinox and terrain for 2024.
That's another recall.
Here's another one roof rail airbag inflators may rupture on the Buick and the Chevrolet, the Verano and the crews for 2014.
10 year old car, land rover range rover sport for 2023, the exterior vehicle lighting may fail.
Uh, also improperly bonded body panels on the land rover range rover.
I think that's the same company that makes jaguars.
Oh, sorry, did I say that?
I didn't say at this time cross member connection may loosen though it was in my head.
Cross member connection may loosen.
Mercedes Benz sprinters 1500, 2500, 3500, 4500 for the 2020 model year.
That's not good missing frame member reinforcement fasteners Again the sprinters 19 through 22 model years.
Partition wall made detach sprinters for the 2019 through 2023 model engine compartment fire events.
Kia Sarento for 2011.
They're going way back in time.
I did nothing else to recall but remember they scored well in consumer report.
Yeah, yeah, improper seal may allow oil and fuel to leak.
And the Mercedes Benz glc 300, 350 and 450 23 and 24 bottle years.
Sorry, I'm having a little bit it up, everybody can hear that.
It's got a hairball.
I know as much as you thought, you muted it.
Well, I did my microphone, Lucky everybody else.
I think every Mercedes model year and brand model Since day one Since day one 2021 through 2023, fuel pump shutdown may cause loss of drive power.
You think, yeah, yeah, that'll do it every time, so there's just too many of them to list there.
Nissan Altima Loose bolts may cause a loss of steering control for the 2024 Altima.
Engine compartment fire from a short circuit.
Hyundai Kona 2024.
Oh, kona, there you go, there you go, there's your Kona review.
Kona review.
There you go, bring the hot dogs and s'mores.
That was a hot item there Lots of recalls man I mean it's the end of the year.
You got to start to get them all out of the way at the beginning of the year.
Yes, I'm not even going to do that.
And so the airbag thing is all over again, again, again, again ARC automotive and the airbag thing is going to be huge.
They're looking at being 67 million vehicles.
The airbags are like COVID it's going, it's here to stay, yep.
Unfortunately it's true but I will say this that airbags save lives.
Absolutely, that's true, absolutely.
So you know there's a risk in everything.
Well, I've always said seatbelts save lives, airbags reduce injuries.
We're getting close to the end of this hour, but I didn't want to mention that the Ford Super Duty was named 2024 North American Truck of the Year I heard that While the Kia EV9 was named Utility Vehicle of the Year and the Toyota Prius and Prius Prime Hatchback took home car of the year honors in the North American car truck and utility vehicle awards.
So Jack wouldn't tell us all of that.
Well, he already knew Jack's lying today, but he's going to join us next week.
We're going to talk about it, but I don't get the Prius.
I don't.
I think there's better models out there, but Well, you have to take the.
Prius for what it's worth, for what it is For what it is, for what?
It's worth.
Well, no, I mean, it does everything it says it's going to do and it does a very good job of it.
It has Toyota reliability.
Is it something that I would buy?
No, but it's like the guy from Consumer Reports says Toyota has been doing that same Drive train, same synergy for 20 years and they do a damn good job of it.
I agree.
And actually just a lot.
And we've driven those cars and they're comfortable and they're easy to use.
I mean, if you're not into cars and you just have to commute from here to there, If you just after transportation.
There's a lot of choices out there like that.
It's a good one.
All right.
But I have fun.
Yeah.
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About this episode
Sergeant Steven Woodard from the DPS joins the In Wheel Time Podcast to discuss critical traffic safety issues, including new laws and the importance of crash protocols. He emphasizes the need for drivers to take pictures and exchange information at crash scenes, as well as the dangers of using road shoulders improperly. The conversation also touches on the rise of automated vehicles, the impact of street racing, and the alarming statistics surrounding traffic fatalities in Texas. Woodard shares insights on law enforcement's role in improving road safety and the challenges posed by emerging automotive technologies.
Original notes
Navigating the chaotic aftermath of a car crash can be as befuddling as a corn maze at night, but fear not, because Sergeant Steven Woodard of the Texas DPS State Troopers and is lighting the way with essential crash scene wisdom. Our talk isn't all caution tape and whirring sirens, though—we also peel back the layers on the recent spike in traffic fatalities in Texas and dissect the role of media during police standoffs, all the while keeping it real with personal stories. Buckle up as we share the scoop on new legislations and the vital steps you should take post-accident, including the golden rule of documenting everything with photos.
Remember the days when horsepower and the smell of burning rubber were the ultimate Friday night? We certainly do, and it's why we're contrasting the controlled adrenaline rush of drag racing with the high-stakes gamble of street racing. But as we reminisce about the good ol' days, our conversation fast-forwards to the future of automated vehicles and the perplexing legal tangles they introduce. Houston Police Academy cadets have been hearing us preach on this for over a decade, and now you can join in. We're tackling the media's fascination with Tesla, demystifying driver-assist technologies, and even sharing pandemic-era revelations on transportation and the importance of driver training.
We're rounding out this episode with a pit stop in recallville—Ford's latest hiccup with over 112,000 trucks, anyone? Yet, it's not all about the glitches; we're also throwing confetti for the champs of the North American Car Truck, and Utility Vehicle awards. So, from airbag antics to oil leaks and the eco-friendly strides, we're dishing out the need-to-knows on the latest industry shake-ups. Don't forget, all this car talk action is just a tap away on the iHeartRadio app, keeping your automotive knowledge as polished as a showroom floor. Join us for an episode that promises to rev the engine of your curiosity and keep your mental gears turning.
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