The Toyota Supra is a popular sports car people love for how it drives. Here, the point is that you don’t have to chase the newest, most expensive car to enjoy being a car enthusiast.
The BMW M5 is a fast, performance-focused BMW sedan. People talk about it because it can accelerate very quickly and feel strong in real driving. It’s mentioned as a car that’s hard for most other cars to outperform.
“Zero to 60 times” means how fast a car can go from stopped to 60 mph. The speaker is saying that measuring cars only by that kind of number gets boring and misses the fun of driving.
“Quarter mile times” is how fast a car can run a quarter-mile from a stop. The host is basically saying that chasing these numbers alone doesn’t guarantee you’ll enjoy the car.
Analog gauges are the classic car instruments with dials and needles. The hosts like them because they’re straightforward and feel more connected to the car than modern screen-based dashboards.
BMW E36 is an older BMW 3 Series from the 1990s. The hosts are talking about how the cabin feels more “analog” and personal—like the gauges and controls are set up in a way that makes you feel connected to the car.
Reupholstered means the car’s seat coverings were redone with new fabric or leather. They’re saying that can affect the “old car” feel and smell that people look for in older cars.
Electronic features are the car’s tech functions—things you control with buttons, touchscreens, or software. The hosts are saying modern cars can feel less engaging unless you actually use and learn the tech.
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car from Porsche with an engine in the back. When someone says “turbo,” it usually means the engine has a turbocharger to make more power.
They’re talking about nostalgia, meaning a warm feeling from the past. They feel older cars can trigger that because they’re simpler and remind them of earlier driving experiences.
The Mazda RX-7 is known for a rotary engine, which works differently than the usual piston engines. That’s why it feels unusual and interesting compared with most modern cars.
“Rotaries” means rotary engines—engines that spin internally instead of using the usual piston up-and-down motion. Mazda used this approach in cars like the RX-7, and it’s a big reason the cars feel different.
They’re basically saying that as cars get older, people will understand them better and care more about them later. Over time, enthusiasts learn what makes certain cars special.
“Cars and coffee” is a meet-up where car people get together, usually in the morning, to show their cars and hang out. It’s less about racing and more about community.
The Subaru WRX is a sporty compact car made by Subaru. It’s known for having all-wheel drive, which helps it grip the road. People like it because it’s a common platform for upgrades and modifications.
“Hydraulics” here means a system that uses fluid pressure to move the car’s suspension up and down. It’s used to create that low-rider look (and sometimes to lift the car up).
Low riders are cars that are set up to look and ride very low. Here, they’re being mentioned as part of the flashy, customized-car styles people were checking off.
Autocross is a motorsport where drivers complete timed laps through a course marked with cones, usually on a closed lot or track. The hosts contrast it with everyday driving, implying that only real driving events like autocross make “fast and cool” feel like a personality, not just a spec sheet.
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They’re basically saying people might be getting tired of chasing bigger and bigger power numbers. The idea is that the hobby is moving toward more personal, creative car choices.
A “rotary car” has an engine that works differently than the usual piston engine. Because of that design, it can use more fuel, which matters a lot when gas prices are high.
The Mazda RX-8 uses a rotary engine, which is different from a normal engine. Because of that, it often gets worse gas mileage, so filling up can get expensive fast.
They’re talking about the Honda Civic Type R needing premium gas, which costs more per gallon. When gas prices jump, it makes daily driving feel way more expensive.
Continental is a tire company. They’re saying Continental makes different tires for different kinds of driving, depending on the season and how you drive.
All-season tires are meant to handle a mix of weather through the year. They’re a compromise choice—good for normal driving without needing a dedicated summer-only or winter-only tire.
“DWS 06 Plus” is a specific Continental tire model. They’re saying it’s a good all-around tire for everyday driving.
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They’re talking about a specific Continental tire they’d consider if they want something more performance-focused. It’s meant for summer driving rather than year-round use.
The “Z” refers to the Nissan Z, which is a sports car. It’s designed to be fun to drive while still being practical enough for everyday use. The podcast mentions it as a possible first-car choice.
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The Dodge SRT-4 is a fast, turbocharged version of a small Dodge. It’s known for being a fun performance car without costing as much as many sports cars.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car from Chevrolet. It’s built to be fast and fun to drive. The podcast brings it up when talking about how quickly cars can go.
A “four-cylinder” engine means the car has four cylinders working together. The speaker is saying the cheaper enthusiast cars on the list tend to use smaller four-cylinder engines.
The Honda Beat is a very small, lightweight sports car from Honda. It’s not a common choice, which is why it’s interesting in a list of what younger buyers are picking.
The Chevrolet Cobalt SS is a sportier version of the Cobalt. People liked it enough that some treated it like a collectible, and today you can still find decent ones for relatively cheap.
The Chevrolet SSR is a weird-looking Chevrolet that mixes pickup and roadster vibes. The point here is that people treated it like a special “forever” car.
The Chevrolet Cobalt SS is a cheaper compact car that was made to feel sporty. A lot of people liked it because it was fun without costing super big money.
“Starter cars” refers to affordable, entry-level vehicles that are often the first enthusiast purchases. The idea is that they’re cheap enough to buy and modify, so they become a gateway into car culture.
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The Volkswagen GTI is a sporty version of the Golf. People like it because it’s fun to drive but still works as a normal car.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact car that’s meant to be practical for everyday driving. Some versions, like the GTI, are made to be more sporty. The podcast brings it up while talking about different popular performance cars.
Need for Speed is a popular racing video game series. The speaker is saying the person liked the car because it was in the game.
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They’re saying video games can make certain cars feel cool, and that can influence what people want in real life. So a game can turn into a real car obsession.
The Mercedes-AMG One is a supercar made by Mercedes-AMG. It’s known for being extremely advanced and very rare. The podcast mentions it because people are excited about how wild it looks and performs.
The Ferrari FXX K is a very special Ferrari supercar built for the track. It’s also the kind of car that shows up in racing games because it’s rare and exciting to collect.
Gran Turismo is a popular racing game series where you collect cars and unlock content over time. The discussion here is about how the game’s “unlock” rules and paywalls affect whether it feels fun to play or frustrating.
A paywall means you have to pay real money to unlock something instead of earning it by playing. They’re saying that if the best stuff is paywalled, the game stops feeling worth the effort.
A grind path is the game’s planned “work your way up” route—doing tasks repeatedly to unlock better stuff. They’re saying that if rewards skip that process, it feels worse.
“Forza Horizon 6” is the next game in the Forza Horizon racing series. They’re excited about it, mainly because of how it lets you mess with cars and keep progressing.
“EVO 9” is the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX. It’s a turbocharged, all-wheel-drive performance car, so it’s the kind of car that can feel extremely fast in games.
They’re a company that makes updated versions of old-school game controllers. Here, they’re being used to make Nintendo 64 games easier to play on today’s TVs.
Coilovers are suspension parts that let you change how high or low your car sits. People use them to lower the car and often to make the ride feel more controlled.
The 2018 Audi RS3 TCR is a high-performance Audi made for racing and track use. The hosts describe it as heavily modified—basically turned into a dedicated race car with lots of upgrades.
The Audi RS 3 is a sporty, high-performance version of a compact Audi. In the podcast, they’re talking about an RS 3 built for racing and time attacks. That’s why it’s described as an extreme, track-focused car.
Carbon fiber is a lightweight material used for body panels. Swapping to carbon fiber can help the car feel quicker and more agile, especially on a track build.
Forge Line makes performance wheels. “GW3R” is the wheel model, and the “18 by 11 and a half” part tells you the wheel size so you can run the right tires and get the right stance.
The Datsun 510 is an older compact car that people still modify today. It’s popular because it’s a good base for racing and upgrades. The podcast talks about heavily built 510s with race-style parts.
Alpina is a tuner/brand known for building performance versions of BMWs with a focus on refined power delivery and engineering. When the hosts say “a new alpina,” they’re referring to a new Alpina model release or update.
They’re talking about BMW creating a luxury-focused lane using Alpina. Think of it like BMW’s “premium” identity, similar to how M is BMW’s performance identity.
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BMW M is BMW’s performance brand. They’re comparing it to Alpina so you can understand Alpina’s role as the luxury-performance side.
A concept car is a one-off or prototype vehicle that shows off what a company wants to build next. It’s like a preview, not necessarily a car you can buy.
A nameplate is the model’s badge or label—like GTI—and it comes with expectations. The host is saying if you reuse that famous label on something new, people want it to match the old spirit.
The Ford Fiesta is a small car from Ford. Some versions, like the Fiesta ST, are made to be more sporty. The podcast mentions it as an option for someone looking at compact performance cars.
Physical buttons are the real knobs and buttons you can press without tapping through a screen. The host likes them because they’re easier to use while you’re driving.
Needle gauges are the classic dashboard meters with a moving pointer. The host is saying this car uses that traditional style instead of only showing numbers on a screen.
An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery instead of gasoline. They’re debating whether it can still be fun to drive or if it feels too dull.
“Retro gauges” means the dashboard looks like older cars, with classic-looking dials. They’re wondering why an electric car would copy that old-school look.
Formula One is the highest level of open-wheel race car competition. Drivers sometimes switch to other racing series, which can bring more fans and buzz.
Prototype driving means racing cars that are built for competition, not regular cars you’d find on the street. The teams focus on engineering and performance over long races.
“CS” is BMW’s label for a sportier version of a model. Here, they’re talking about how those versions usually come with an automatic, and how that’s changing.
The BMW M2 is a smaller, sporty BMW meant to be fun and responsive to drive. The podcast talks about the M2 CS and whether it came with a manual or automatic transmission. That detail matters because some drivers prefer manuals.
A BMW CS is a higher-performance version of a BMW that’s meant to feel more special to drive. The podcast highlights that it can come with a manual transmission, which is something many drivers look for. That’s the main reason it’s being discussed.
A manual transmission means you shift gears yourself using a clutch and a stick. It’s less common in new cars, which is why this announcement stands out.
Motegi makes aftermarket wheels you can buy to replace the factory ones. They’re saying these Motegi wheels look good and held up while they were drifting.
Drifting is when a driver intentionally makes the car slide sideways through a turn while still controlling it. It’s tough on the tires and wheels, so it’s a good test for how strong the wheels are.
“Split three spokes” is a wheel design where you can clearly see three spokes, but they’re shaped/arranged in a way that makes the pattern look split. They’re mentioning it because it’s part of why the wheels look right on the car.
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Welcome back to the martini works podcast. I am joined by ours back. Oh hi. Hi. What the hell is it? Gels and Dakota?
Welcome back. Happy Friday. If you're tuning in and listening
We're always rotating guests here. Yeah, happy to have Lars back on the podcast. He was missed dearly the normal Alex
Yeah, yeah, exactly
But one thing I wanted to hop into right away today is it just seems like there's a current trend going around
Oh, God of everybody want an old cars again, and I'm curious if it's a
sign of the times or if it's a sign of like
Car enthusiast evolution that you go through, right?
I feel like we all start off with older cars because that's what we can afford and what we can get and then we want
The newest thing so we work our ways up on getting like a newer vehicle
Then you get it and then do you start to come back? You're like, all right. I had that. I just want the old shit back
Yeah, I think it's a natural evolution of things honestly because you know like you're saying you get you you get what you can
Yep, then you get what you want. Yep, and then you realize that it ain't all that
And then you know the expenses pile up and you're paying big-ass monthly payments all the time
And then you just want something simple a hundred percent like a simple cars and coffee like date night car. Yes
Awesome. Yes. Yeah, 100%
I think it is a constant chase of
The nostalgia and I think it hits now more than ever before because it's like we're constantly getting fed it like with like social media and
Just like even marketing in general like you look at any like brands that we were looking through like target yesterday
We just want the target to get some things and it's like dude
Champion is all over
Target right now and maybe like wasn't champion like why is there champion ever?
I'm like, it's it's a nostalgic brand and like they're playing off of like the 90s like track suit stuff again
Like early 2000s and it was like dude
There's so much like power in that nostalgia thing when it comes to music cars video games fricking styling like everything
And I think it just hits now more than ever and like kind of to go along with Lara said to it's like, okay
I got the taste of the new stuff. It's like man. That's really expensive. It's pretty cool, but it's like
Man show is just easier back there. I feel like it seems like it like it is cool
But you realize that you don't need a lot of it
You can get by and enjoy stuff without it
I think a lot of it too for me the the phase that I'm in now
I thought this was like an original thought or like watching what you guys are doing like man
That'd be cool for me to have to but I'm like digging through pictures from 789 years ago
And I have a picture of like the exact car
I'm hoping to pick up and at some point in the future. Yeah from that long ago
It's like I'm like remembering how much I used to love these things and I like walked away from them
You know in the opposite direction, you know, so it's fun to like rediscover that it's something so different
Yeah, and yeah, I feel like it's it's good news to here because I think we always feel like we got get the newest best most
Expensive thing we can afford. I'm here to tell you that ain't the case. You don't got to do that
I think it's fun and I like for example, and I got my Toyota Supra
I loved that thing
I still love it to this day and I would consider another one down the road
But I didn't need it to be happy as a car enthusiast. It was just it was cool
And I think when you stop comparing cars by numbers, yes, the whole outlook changes, you know when it's yeah
100% zero to 60 times or a quarter mile times or whatever like the M5 can't be beat by by most cars, right?
But I'm like I'm getting bored of it
You know, I want something slow on something chill something you have to work for just a little bit
You know, I wanted to run and drive don't get me wrong
I don't want to be stranded
But the whole point of the cars to drive to the shop. Yeah cars and coffee down the street like I'm not I'm not taking that thing
Who cares like it's quirky and fun. Yeah, 100% and what would you guys say is
Like a nostalgic thing you look for in an older car like what what is it about it that makes you enjoy it dude
Just the analog shit like gauges just analog gauges and like the colors of that
They chose for like interior stuff back in the day like there's just like a I don't know
I think the E 36 like your car does it really well to the 46. It's like you get in it's like
There's something about this and it's like it's like a smell or it's like the feel of like BMWs like leather or something like that
Or it's like just how everything is placed specifically because everything was there for a specific reason
You know now, it's like, you know, do you get in a car and it's like oh, yep, there's a there's a screen. Yep
And it's we'll see what kind of
Animation is on it and back then it was like no it's like here's like gauges and like every car had like their own specific
Layout for gauges and things like that and they were just so unique and just like
Simple but not like because there's like certain cars you can get that are old and it's like kind of like right on the verge of like
Them trying to put as much stuff as they could at the time
Yeah, yeah, okay. This is a this is just asinine
But it's like kind of cool and then there's like the other end where it's just like now
We're gonna give you like the bare minimum just because it's there to do a job
I think the smell is a big deal. The smell is a big deal
I have a smell for sure
I walked away from the listing just because they said they reupholstered it and made me think like I don't know if it's gonna
Feel like an old car. Yeah, I won't have that classic being there smell anything
But I agree with you some of the old technology is really funny like it's it's normal in today's world
But when the first iterations of all the stuff are so quirky and fun
I I like it because it feels like you have to learn the car a bit
It's like you just hop in any car now and unless you want to really take advantage of like all like the
Electronic features and things like that. It's like, you know Dakota when we went and did that
The Porsche 911 the turbo one that we did a video on you're like, oh dude
Like the I didn't know how to work the HVAC system. Like it was all sliders and like
Things you know, I look at that's like that's kind of cool
Like you know, like each car was like its own very unique thing like operated differently. Yeah, I like that aspect of it
Yeah, I look at it similar to
I'm big into like retro gaming. Yeah, and like obviously you have modern stuff
Like a PlayStation 5 Nintendo switch to all that kinds of stuff and those are fun
And I enjoy playing them, but I do also like going back and grabbing a Game Boy color and putting a game in it
Or the Game Boy Advance and I like tooling around with those and mess with them again
Because like when you hold them and you feel me or playing them
It gives you nostalgia and I think a car is very similar you get into the driver's seat
You have your cockpit so to speak and the layout of it and when you start driving it
It feels like it brings you back. Yeah to like those simple times of when you were getting into cars
And you had vehicles that were similar to those and I think it's just that feeling that it gives when you drive it that
No new car could ever give you because you just don't have nostalgia with it
Yeah, I agree and some of these like the cars I'm looking at now are older than I am even so like I've never experienced some of these cars
And I think part of it is just the aesthetic like there's just cool to look at and nowadays like like if you look in the engine bay
Have a modern car or something right like every square inch is shove full of something whether it's a hose a pipe a turbo
More cylinders or whatever coverings. Yeah, it's all plastic
You look at some of these old cars and it almost looks like they have shaved engine bays
Like there's so much as extra room in them for whatever reason
I just they're just the sharks like the 24s
Pick up one of those just because they look cool
I don't I don't care how it performs like the only car I've ever thought of but I don't care
That's fast
I do think you know like us going to like all these shows and stuff like that the last few years and it was like
We kind of joked about it, but it did get to the point
It's like dude everything just started kind of being the same and it was like anytime
We did see an old car or something just oddball show up
It was like we gravitated towards that so much because it was so
Different and I feel like for me personally like that's kind of what I like having it's like I like having the weird goofy shit
You know they're like being like what the hell is that and you know when I was shopping around and eventually got this
Frickin RX 7 it was like dude
I don't see any of those ever and it's like but I really love how it looks. I love that. It's just fucking weird
I love that the engine is such a stupid platform like like it's just so different
And it's like it's something that I have to like learn and it's like
Name a vehicle like that nowadays that even is somewhat like that, right?
Like none of that none of the new cars
I feel like have a with some exceptions we'll talk about later
But like they don't really have a story anymore, right, right?
There's probably a really cool story about why Mazda made that RX 7 right or why they went with rotaries to begin with right?
Like there's cool stories you can share and and discuss with your friends. Exactly. Um, you don't really find that in modern cars
Anything past like 2011 I would say
They've all gotten very numb like really performing like high performance very fuel-efficient all that stuff
Well, it's kind of numb
It's cool too with older cars is when you see an older car that's kept in good shape
Yeah, you know someone cares about it instantly when you see a new car in good shape. It's expected
Yeah, so it just becomes like another car off the lot and the thing is is like I think as these cars will age in the next 10
20 years, it's like a hundred percent. We're gonna look back at them the man
That's yes a thousand percent. It'll happen. Yeah, they'll gain this knowledge. It's just like where we're at currently
I just I find it so fascinating and so interesting because like I remember when I was
You know 16 through 19 all I want to do is like be able to save up to get a brand new spoons
It's all I wanted trying the latest model of exit golf are an Evo or whatever, you know
And like now it's it's look back. I look back at it and it's like, you know
I kind of cleaned my slate a little bit and started deciding what I wanted and what I gravitated towards is I just wanted some
Lars nailed it
I want something I could take the cars and coffee something I could wake up in the morning go cruise grab ice cream with on a Saturday night
That's all I wanted something to be proud. I think also too. I will say a hundred percent
We're in a very
Extremely unique position where we have access to like the GTT and the s15 and we can get our fill
Through doing stuff like that also we get opportunities to go to events where you know
It's a with Continental or another brand or something like that and we get to experience other vehicles
So I do think I get a lot of my fill of having a more faster sportier car stuff like that
Through stuff like that. So but it's also like entirely different experiences like
Like for example, right? Like it's e24 your Harlequin or whatever, right?
Like they're they're in a really unique price point where they're not necessarily trying to compete with something else because they give
You such a different experience and like the the feeling and like don't get me wrong
I've enjoyed the hell out of this right taking the m3 to road America, for example
Yeah, being at the track is one thing
But like pulling up to the gas station between sessions to get it to gas or whatever a snack like that's fun
Like having people you show up with your helmet still on like people give you thumbs up
That's cool with an old car like a classic, right? You get that all the time
Yeah, and that's that's a that's a unique because it's like so out of the ordinary
Yeah, people ask you about it like how long have you had it like what's done to it or what's new like?
How do you keep this running?
You know like that's that's a whole different experience that I think it sounds like we're all just like craving right now
Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah, I think it's it's one of those things
I think nostalgia has a very strong chokehold specifically on our generation. I think all generations
But I think you know, we've been hit with it really hard just with
Like I said marketing and the way things are and
What we've gone through like the last few years and everything like that
It's like want to remember like hey remember when shit was just easy and like fun and we didn't have to worry about anything
And and it's just like everything just kind of gravitates towards that and you know
When I look at my choices in cars lately, it's like I I think horsepower and speed is really dope
I don't not like that. I think it's sick, but it's just like that's just not typically what I look for in my cars
For some reason I just I want to have an experience with it
And that doesn't necessarily have to be power and speed. Yeah. Yeah a hundred percent a little different note
But it was my buddy Neff's birthday this weekend show Neff have a birthday
But enough and we went downtown Appleton and there's a bar
That's like right on the strip and the garage door opens in front of it
So you can sit and you're like right on the street dude
We had so much fun car watching. Yeah, cuz there's tons because it was beautiful out
Yeah, so everybody brought their stuff out and seeing all different walks of like oh my god
I seen every generation of vehicle
But every time there's like dude we see like an Acura RSX or they had like a body kit and was lowered on raised wheels
It's like we're breaking out, you know stuff like that
It's just so cool to to see if you haven't done that in a while
Like you don't necessarily need to go to a show
But if you go to I wouldn't say a bigger city a city that people go cruise that you know go watch
Just go go hang out watch and hang out and yeah, that was really fun
Ableton Ableton is good for that. Like it's a surprising car. Yeah
College Ave is like and I feel like it has been like that for a while because it's like like you said
It's not just like the newer tuner stuff. It's like everything like do you see muscle cars like rat rods like clean truck builds?
Yeah, old truck builds
Brand-new Supras brand-new WRX's
Cars on hydraulics lifted low riders
Acura RSX and the Honda scene motorcycles like there was everything we were like checking off boxes like this is insane
Do they have like a bingo card or something? Honestly, yeah, that would be kind of fun
Yeah, that would be fun, but it was just such a good diamond so chill
Like I feel like we used to do more of that back in the young days
No, the simple things of enjoying cars and I think that's what it kind of brings back to me, too
It's not like oh you have to chase after the biggest number you have to have like the craziest fitmen
You have to have like, you know the most expensive wheels or something like that. It's like
No, we're just we're just having a good time. It's a hobby
It used to be an expression of like your personality like who you are like like at the season opener
We had there's this kid he had to be like less than 20 years old drove in in a 1970s BMW like a 2002
Yeah, and I'm like that's that's the coolest shit
Like I like I hope he knows what he has because it's so cool and random to pull up like that
You know like now if everything's the same and new and fast and whatever like unless you're actually racing that or driving it in
Some like autocross thing every weekend or something. That's not your personality
You just want something fast and cool and expensive, right? Which is fine like we like again
We've all done that at this point. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it
But you know, it's not it's not necessarily the same thing and maybe we're just past that right now
We're like into the downslope of power. Yeah, I think the next thing honestly
What we need to get back to is people making their cars an extension of their personality
I think what's happening a lot of times and why so many look similar is now everyone's trying to make their car match
Everyone else's personality because they're posting it to social media and you want to please as many people as you can get as many
Views as soon as you do something on your own taste and you get three feel a comment. Why the fuck would you do that?
Yeah, I would never do that. Yes. It's like, oh, wow, I messed up. It's like maybe
Maybe you messed up, but but also it could just be like, hey, you're doing something different and that's okay
Not every super needs to you 37s. It's like easy
But it's like, you know, it's something like that where it's like it seems like, you know
You go on to social media and I hate to sound like a fucking boomer, but it's like, you know
You go into the comment section. It's like, well, why didn't you do it this way? Everyone does it that way?
It's like, well, that's exactly why they didn't do it. Yeah, right, right
I do think we are like those boomers like when we when you only buy like the newest most recent fastest car
You can afford basically you're one step away from having a boomer board. Yeah
Yeah, one of three in white with, you know, black interior on this date. Yeah
Yeah, you know, it's just fun, man. I look forward to this summer. I look forward to getting the car and I'm looking forward to this
Shake-up. We're all having new cars. They're different to us. I'm just excited to see everyone
Experience them and what they do with them and when does your car get here? Yeah, Joe's wins a car get here, dude
No, I'm trying to figure that out. It is a venture. I mean, you're getting it from everything is a country
Yeah, every all the paperwork and stuff is done and signed. It's like
officially like mine, I guess
It's just it just needs to get here. Yep. So we'll go driving them at this point
Thinking about just fly there
I try it. We talked about it. Yo, yeah, I'm a video of you driving my generation talking about that. My stress is through the roof
Oh, yeah, that would that would be like but if it went good, yeah, man, would it be I would oh, man
It would be and if it didn't go good, man, would it be a story?
When you get the glory, it did not go good and it was I know
Memory it's just like yeah, that's true the money that story could end up being is the stressful part
The way the gas situation is right now. It's not really set up to handle a rotary car. Yeah, yeah
That wasn't probably the smartest, you know what those get for a fuel mileage like the I know your RX 8 wasn't it can't be good
Can't imagine they started better
Yeah
Yeah, I guess we'll find out but yeah, the RX 8 was fucking atrocious on gas dude and they had a big tank in it too
So it just did not make it any better. It's like at the time filling it up was like 80 bucks, right?
Dude, it would probably be well over 120 dollars. I'm not dude. I paid a hundred dollars this morning to fill the BMW
That's that was like I think it's like 15 or 16 gallons or something like that. Yeah gas prices crazy
For you know, it's bad
So this in the morning is when it's like, you know, the gas prices are bad when I go in to pay for the gas and the gas
hasten attendance like
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All right, this kind of leads in perfectly from what we were just talking about but I seen an article
I think it was on the drive. I'll double check here in a second
Anyways is talking about what cars are generation Z most into aka the zoomers
Yeah, I'll establish quick because I I can't keep track of what generation who I don't know what are we on now?
Oh, so Z is between 1997 and 2012 when you were born so that generation
Yeah, folk like right on the edge of that. Yeah, I'm close to it. I was in 1994
So I'm the other one which I don't know is gone as 96. Yeah, Lars is a boomer
Okay, so but I thought that was interesting because those they're saying that generation that's like your next
Collector growing up like those are that gonna be the next people purchasing collector cars essentially, right?
So what are they into? What are they looking at? Yeah, and from what this list says it's kind of interesting
I don't know about that list. This is gonna be wild. I looked through it because you sent it over. Yeah, it's an interesting list. It is so
What this is saying here Hagerty found is that Gen Z has similar taste to Millennials, okay?
Specifically in the preference of Japanese cars, but they're not all Japanese cars. They're after so what this is saying is
The LS 400 or the Celsius right the Mitsubishi
Evo 5 5 it's an interesting one. It's older than what we like. I know and then
The there's a couple oddballs
To but the Acura RSX the Cobalt SS and then the Cobalt SS is the last one
They're saying right now
Those are the most popular vehicles for that generation that they're looking for they're trying to pick up and they are buying
If you would have swapped like the Evo 5 for like the Evo 8 or 9 for me like that would be my
Probably like this. I would be like that's a millennial list almost. Yeah, it is very millennial
Well, what they're saying though is because I was reading some of the comments on that that thread to or that the webpage from the drive is
Like that's what they can afford like those are the cool cars that are cheap right now
Yeah, the Evo 5 that's questionable. I don't know how about that one
But then again, maybe they are a little slept on I don't hear people talking about those much
Those are the ones that you have to be imported. Yeah, right like a lot of these
You have to import I could see like the LS 400 though. Yeah, those ones are those you can get really affordable
And it is true like I didn't think of like a few people I know in that age range that have those
Yeah, so it's like damn. Okay, that that's interesting
Is an interesting car to pick up. Yeah, I guess it's automatic
I guess it's kind of different from like these are the ones that they're actually picking up
Versus what they you know like what cars we love and like a door aren't necessarily the cars that we have
Yes, either out of our price range or something as officially remember
It's not that favorite exactly they're buying true and I think I got that a little mixed up because initially I was like well
Yeah, it's all like the m3s and m4s and Supras and GT3 RS is like that
That's what I picture is like a Gen Z car, right?
But I guess yeah as a first car that is making sense
Yeah, I'm gonna drop 40 on the car if that's true. That's kind of sick though. I'd love that bad list
I would love to see like SRT 4s and cobalt's running around again 100% RSX is like we said we saw that one on
For those I I think they're level the list is older than I expected
Yeah, like the price point makes sense, but if at that price range, I guess I expected stuff like GT is I expected
Yeah, well BMWs and they're even older Corvette. Yeah, it's definitely more in the four-cylinder range, which is interesting
Maybe it's like because they're car enthusiasts and they're trying to get something different
So like that's what they end up getting. I'd be there all ahead. I thought it was interesting, too
That I think the Honda beat was also in that list
Yeah, I think like K cars in general are pretty pop like they really like the the K cars and K trucks
Yeah, there's a
Yeah, the Honda beat is mentioned here, right? There it is
That's a weird one that I feel are people really buying Honda
I know I think dude
I feel like the K cars have really blown up in the last couple of years. It's true even they've gotten so popular trucks
You're saying do we see them at shows? Yeah, I think well
I know it wasn't this year of course
I didn't get to walk around as much but like last year there was a group of like three people that showed up with Honda beats
Okay, yeah
What's so weird? I don't know where the cobalt SS fits into that list
Yeah, that's a really random pink
Why the only thing I can think of is because I remember from when I owned one a lot of older dudes picked them up
Yeah, and they treated it like a collector car like just I think solely because I had the SS badge
Well, there's a big deal back in the day
So but I think they bought thinking like oh this car is gonna be worth fucking millions one day
I think the SS badge is huge because I remember people picking up like
Was it the HHR the SSR like all like the weird shit that was coming around that time like yeah, dude people like they
They held those things so close to their chest like these are I'm gonna have this forever. This is my baby
This is my forever car, and it was like it's a really weird pick, but you know, whatever
You can find pretty
Religiously like a bone stock cobalt SS will pop up for sale and it has 60,000 miles
Not that expensive so you get a four-cylinder turbocharged car. That's rowdy fun tune easy tons of mods
You know so like I kind of get I think that's the only thing I'm thinking of is there's a lot that were kept in decent shape
So they're easy to pick up for cheap. I still think it's a oddball one, but I do see a cruise around town
I think it was that one versus like the neon I started see those aren't though
I don't think those were picked up by old people and collected no for whatever reason
Tea brand is very different. Yeah, it is those are all clapped. They're all fucking beat the shit
It's really hard, but it's surprising that like you know
It's still though. I feel like they're gonna if they're clapped and beat the shit
They're gonna be really really fucking cheap then yeah, but I don't know
I think it kind of they kind of fall in the same category
But I think you're right though that the cobalt SS there are more clean examples of those around because for whatever reason
They were collected for a while. Yeah, yeah, and I think people are certain realize like well, okay
This is never gonna be worth fucking shit
But maybe it will be now that everyone's picking them up like they'll be
If you want to call all that ss right now, and you're in the age of 55 to 70
You might be sitting on a little bit of a golden to me for cheap. Yeah, you know why I like the SS
Why it was the one of the starter cars and most wanted. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yeah sure was one of the four
Damn right addition. You got it. You got enough cash GTI was cobalt SS the official fish cart
No, that was a evil
Yeah, but yeah cobalt SS. I remember I had a buddy I worked with back in the day and
He didn't know shit about cars knew nothing about cars and somehow in conversation
I brought up once I had a cobalt SS and he was like no way
I'm like why are you what he's like dude? I love that car need for speed most
I beat the whole game with just that car
So it's so cool to see how like a video game can make someone like I love so much influence
They were really playing the long game with the video game stuff. Yeah, honestly, dude
And please for love of God bring back video games where you start with a piece of shit beater cheap car
I heard in like what was for the horizon just came out. Yeah, I've seen like day one people are driving on like Mercedes
AMG ones are mad like what like I get it like video games are an escape from reality
So you want to drive look the coolest shit and be able to do that, but like me it may earn it a little bit
Yeah, like what are you earning a little bit?
The games would be so boring in a couple days if you just unlock everything
I love the horizon games
So that was my problem with pretty much all of them after two. Yeah, like everything was just unlocked
Yeah, you just go do stuff. It's nice because they're good games. Yeah, but there's no
Progression so you just instantly like I have everything and driving. No, it's like you go back and play like carbon or most wanted and it's like
Fucking right like I remember being stuck and most wanted on like one of the bounty missions for months
Because it was so fucking hard to like get past that. Yeah, you get like soft lock yourself
We had to grind little side missions to get enough money to get like that
I'm not you need to get very incredibly faster and then with Horizon 6 to there's so much potential for this
I was thinking about it
Because they did I haven't played it yet. I've watched some reviews. It looks awesome. I'm gonna get it
You can do car shows now and like everyone pulls up like you pull into a spot and you can meet look at each other's cars
Yeah, but what is it if everyone has everything unlocked? Oh, I suppose. Yeah, so it's like you could do custom liveries
Yeah, and then show off that it's good
No, but think if there was like a super heavy progression in it where like let's say you want to get a set of BBS
LMs for your car, but you had to grind like be able to get them like skins on like guns and call duty
Yeah, so many you have to win so many get first so many first places or something to unlock them or like dude
That's what makes RuneScape so fun. You see somebody in crazy armor
It's like damn they put in how many hours like beating this boss or skilling up this and they did that quest
Yeah, that would be sick in there. It's like damn. Look at they grinded to get this car and it's like you remember parts
I remember and most wanted to it's like and some of the other need for speed games
It was like you could only get certain parts through like unlocks
Yeah, like where it was like it was and it was chance you like I think it was most wanted
You could pick like the chance and like sometimes you get like a really crazy performance part
You could only get that part through that unlock
So it was kind of like chance to get it
It's like imagine doing that like with a set of like really crazy wheels or or something like that and it's like dude
Where the fuck did you get those? Well, I had a grind for it to finally get it now
It would be a fucking loot. Yeah, exactly. You have to buy it and then unlock keys or buy keys and yeah man
I hate the modern state do that. It'd be so cool. However, I will say it from the reviews watch Horizon 6 looks sick
The collection of cars on theirs is right. There's so many cool cars on there in the stages like like the graphics look beautiful
The area is also I mean it's in Japan. We've all wanted that since the dawn of time of make it in Japan make it
It's the first one. It's like hey, Japan would be cool and they're like we're gonna save it to five more games
Yep, I don't know if I guess but I have PS5
So I gotta wait like six months or whenever the hell they're doing the second release
I'm so tempted just to fucking buy it for my PC. So you have PC so you could get away with it
My PC at home sucks. So I'm just gonna fucking
What is it like couple months or you think it's like six months? Oh, yeah, it'll be like winter
Well, it doesn't matter. You know, it's worried about everyone getting if everything unlocked. It's already unlocked anyway
So I know it's cool though. I want to play through the story. I've always found the horizon ones like they're not amazing stories or anything
But they're fun to play through they're a good time. So but I just wish they did the first couple had that like kind of progression
Or is like you worked your way up and like it's so fast. It does happen so fast
Like does nobody like having a game where you gotta like
I'm okay if I got played for a couple months. That's cool with me people like it the majority people don't like really
Apparently because otherwise, why would they be doing it? I think that's a generational thing
Yeah, I think they just want to play the game hang out with their friends. Yeah
Yeah, if you watch but we could do that and all have shit beaters, too
The I think it was need for speed heat when we all played it
We had like a clan and yes in that was the old days and we would hop on like like
I don't know for like two hours every night and like buying these missions together to get the
Because we wanted that was fun Ferrari FXX K something. Yep, and we finally got that car and we all quit playing
That's true. It did happen. We're like, all right. That was fun
See, that's why I think to they have to do it with the the cars and then the mods for it
They have to make it all I like your idea of like the Call of Duty skins
Like because I used to have so much fun trying to collect this. That's also a shit show now
I don't even know what's going on with skins for guns. It doesn't even matter
It's like modern warfare my warfare to like those were like or black ops also like they had it figured out
Unlock of those simple enough to try and like when you saw somebody with like, you know, the full gold
Yes, whatever right like, you know, like that guy uses that a lot and it's like a watch out for that guy
I remember going for like red tiger like fall camo and like you to get so many headshots specifically like that's fun
That's what made it like challenges and stuff. Yeah, and that's all crazy
But and like I said, you can just pay 50 bucks and unlock it right away. Yeah, it's like a modern car right truck times
Graham Turismo honestly had decent
Decent progression. Yeah, cuz you had to like they had the system where like the the auction comes up and cars were only available for like a
Certain amount of time and you had to have the CP to afford them and wasn't grand Turismo like
To grind base though at the beginning. Isn't that a thing that they like had to like go back and like there was something weird with
I know she got weird because they tried to do like DLC with it, too
Oh, okay, like that you had to pay for for and everyone's like you'll fuck and yeah, it got review bombs
Yeah, I remember it was the worst grand Turismo in history. Hmm. They fixed it all immediately
They realized that they fucked up because it was like everything was like behind a paywall
Rinded fuck ton. That's a thing is that's not what I'm there is a grind path
You cannot put the same stuff just behind a paywall. No, that makes it worthless. Yeah, that makes it way worse
It's not what I'm talking about. I don't want that at all
Auction house and Grand Turismo was awesome
Yes, I remember every time I logged in to play that game the first and last thing I did because you know
They would refresh time check it was check the auction house with the beginning at the end
Just to see if I could find something rare or something special. Yes. Yeah, that was a really cool mechanic 100% and
Yeah, I wish they had do that more like that's part of the fun
I feel like of cars is like you got the wheels you always dreamed of you got the the mods or you know
You get a special edition of a car
It's like being encapsulate that a little bit in the game so that way it doesn't just feel like oh
I unlocked everything in one day. Yeah, and now I have level 999 super crazy hyper car and win any race in this
It's like that. That's what destroys it, but I am hyped for the horizon six
I think I'm it's funny you brought up the need for speed heat. That was a good game by the way
I did really like that game. I'm convinced I had the fastest car that anyone ever made in that game
Dude, I built an EVO. It was insane
It was an EVO 9 and it was kind of one of those things where I I got like
Some like special like crate engine for it from an unlock and I had a couple other like special unlocks like for performance stuff
Dude, it wasn't even fun anymore. Like it was like I would use that car
I would be like a lap a half ahead ever, but like it was fucking stupid. I don't know what I did to that thing
I broke the game. It was so fucking fast. It was insane. We should log back in run it
Yeah, but did you play a unbound at all?
No, I never I wanted to because it was the first game that had the M2 Comp in it when I saw yeah
Unbound was fun. Unbound was pretty good. I really liked Unbound
Again, I felt like we kind of got out of it pretty fast
But we did like hop back into it which was fun and then we got out of it
Yeah, I thought the story was fun
I thought like the a lot of people shit on it for like the the animation. I thought that was cool though
I thought it was neat. That was one of the reasons I wanted to check it out. Yeah, it was a unique take
Oh, something's different. No, yeah, I didn't think it was I thought the area was cool
The cars were sick the modifications were wild when you're getting into a need for a sweet game
You know, it's more of an arcade racer. You're not getting into a simulator. Yeah, so it's like you can have fun
We can do it. It didn't like change the race. It was just like the aesthetic of it. No
It was fun. I like that comic book art style though. Yeah, me too. I thought it was so different and neat and
I thought it worked well with that game specifically. So I've always loved the
Horizon series. I remember is it horizon 12 Anyways, you started like a Volkswagen
Chiracco. Yep, and then like you cruise into the thing. It's a carato. Oh carato. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I meant
Same thing. No, I think that was the first one. Yeah, I think so too
But I remember that feeling I was like, well, this game is
This shit's different. Yeah, because it was really cool that one the horizon one took place in like Colorado
Yep, that was the area and that place was really I remember getting that game like free for like game pass or something
That like changed my life. I was like, like dude
How have I been missed because I played like the motorsport ones and I think I was like two had just come out and like
The horizon one was like free on game pass or was like five bucks or something like that and I was like
That looks kind of me. I tried I'm like, dude, this game fucking slaps
Yeah, and then I bought two and then played all the other ones
Yep, and the motorsport is good, but I'd rather I think just play Gran Trismo
Than forza motorsport. Yeah, personally, I agree
I'm racing ruined all of them
Little console thing like I'm console guy. So arcade is awesome
It's fun, but the whenever you get into when I try to start simulating things
It's it's almost like like there's a term called the uncanny valley when it comes to like graphics
But you make graphics so realistic that you your brain starts to like pick out all the little details
And it tells you it's actually worse
You have to like go through it and make it like hyper realistic to get that sensation back
That's how car see musicians are on console. Like it's I know it's good, but I can't shake the feeling that it's fake
Yeah, yeah, that's mean that makes sense. I miss burnout. Do they still do burnout? No, that was awesome
It's a great game now many well not that they ever did manufacturer, but manufacturers do not want their cars crashing in video games
That's hey, it's like the damages like yeah, there's nothing no damage at all which sucks like
One of the most fun parts is like completely just like
Meatball in a car you get anybody who doesn't care like if you get a buddy to play your your game
Where you wife girlfriend or whatever the first thing I'll do is see what the crashing is like. Yeah, I promise you and then it's always shit
Well, there's gonna be what GTA 6 I heard pre-orders coming up. I don't know if that's even worth talking about but
That usually is pretty good
Ironically though that game has fantastic driving physics. Yeah, it's surprising
Yeah, I remember for a long time there dude GTA 5 was more of like a car game than fucking anything else
Yeah
Used to be like car shows and stuff in that. Yeah, people will just go hang out with I think people still have it
They did like I remember when they did like the whole update with like
There was like
They added like a bunch of like lowrider stuff and like a bunch of like really custom shit
There's like a huge update that came on everyone lost their mind over it. That's cool. That's really sick
damn
You know it is I get it though because it's like
We don't want to make it like real life where it's really hard to get certain cars. You can't afford anything
But at the same time I want a good grind game. I want something to actually go on and like
Play well, we like have a have a mission to do. Yeah
And I think that's where the multiplayer thing would come back in right because like what and I've just been playing single-player games for
Last a couple weeks now and what I'm what I'm really craving is is a game where I can like log on with a couple buddies and like and just like
Build something together like like a daisy or I wouldn't play Ross as well
Like like Minecraft type stuff. Yeah, I watch I watch like Twitch streams play these games and they have like 20 friends online
They're all playing and screwing around with him like that's the vibe
Yes, 100% there's no progression in any of these games anymore. You either just have everything or you pay for everything
Wait, isn't there a guy that comments like all the time on our podcast of martini works Minecraft server? Yeah
It might finally come to fruition
Play the whole craft in a while. I will dynamite your house. Oh damn it
You got to hide from Lars. I am willing to make an alliance right here
In a vanilla I don't have to do that in the new Minecraft server
I'm a bully we can we can go bully everyone else, but me and you will be on an alliance
I'm a subtle booby. I'll protect your house from backlash. You know what deal. You're attacking my house, but it's actually your house
Minecraft section
Dude, it's so funny. We're talking about this shit cuz I just got back in the runescape for the 5000000 time
Yeah, back on the you're doing sailing it. Yeah, well, I did say that for a bit
But I am I log back into my Iron Man account. Oh, that's right. And I did do sailing last night. Yeah
Not hardcore Iron Man, but yeah, yeah, Iron Man. Yeah, that is the shit's wild
It is but it's super fun again. I was craving the Grammy
That's what made me think of it too
But I always I think anyone that plays can relate to like you just go through phases or it's like you drop it
You stop playing for a bit and then also you're back into it like you fucking always were before
But I knew it was coming because I started watching a few videos on YouTube
And that's where it always starts
But the best games are ones like runescape where they just leave it alone
Like they patch little stuff bug fixes like that
But like the game I log into from that you played 12 14 years ago at this point
They keep fucking it up with they have not just loot boxes now. They have tiered loot boxes
Oh my god
So there's three tiers right so you buy these boxes and in the box
You can get a higher tier box and when you get enough of those and you open them
You can get if a chance of getting another higher tier box that box has the stuff you really want in it
It's curry. I just I just quit the game again. I'm not dealing with this shit
That's what happened. Well, you're in for the gambling dude runescape three
They call it which is the the runescape that has progressed this whole time. Yeah, it's still going they turned it in
It was like one of the worst things that ever happened to runescape was there is like this
They called to the squeal of fortune
Which there's a loot box thing and you could pay to get more spins and you got exclusive items through it and stuff
And dude the entire player base just fucking fell off
But then luckily they had like old school and they made that and they're like, okay
Here's a version where we didn't touch anything and everyone's like boo it's like now more people play old school than play the new one
That's out but like who spends money on this crap like I don't know whales
But like who the hell spending a thousand dollars on it on a clicking grinding RPG game probably just the whales
There's those few people that get addicted to it that go on dailies drop tons of money
And that makes it worth it because it's not costing anything for them. I do think it's an addiction. Yeah
Oh, I do think like those guys just want everything. They have to like they're basically collectors. Yes
If they if they don't get everything they're not having fun
Well, imagine your account's all maxed out
You have like pretty much all the endgame stuff in the game, but there's this one
Paid thing that you can only unlock by getting lucky and spinning it on a wheel
You're gonna sit there every day and spend it till you get it so you can complete your collection or whatever
Yeah, I guarantee there's people like that and to them. It's worth it
But like overall the fan base you're killing it from the inside out. It's fucking crazy. I want old games
That's why I've been retro gaming so much. I
Picked up a analog 3d so I could play n64 games. It's just it's a simpler solution to hooking up to like a modern TV
I've had so much fun going back playing my old n64 games. That's dope
You also realize how shitty n64 was at the same exact time
Controller is bad. Yeah, well all the controls on those games are just a thousand percent. Luckily
There's a company called 8-bit dough and they released these they're modernized n64 controller
So the layout makes more sense. Okay, it makes a bit better, but it's still yeah
It's you you get on games and you realize like oh, this is a game where they were like trying to learn how to do this
And like that James Bond game that everybody always talks about go play it. I promise. It's not what you think it was
It's not how you remember it at all. It's just the first game. I could shoot somebody
You got to have a few beers and yeah, they have a group of like gold night
Yeah, I have to play gold night in but some still hold up and still like oh, this is a ton of fun
But yes, I'm here like this is
Horrible
Hey, yeah, and nostalgia is a powerful thing
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All right, well, it's my favorite time of the week and that's when I get to talk about a cool car
Not any just cool car car that one of y'all submitted to the martini works build threads this week's build of the week goes out to this
absolutely insane
2018 Audi RS3 TCR time attack car. This is full-on race car. I like this. Yeah
You would so this is from flam motor sports is the handle that uploaded so bought this car in fall of 2019 with the plan to
Have a fun weekend car that following spring a friend of mine told me to bring out to or bring it out to a track-cross event
Since it was an RS3 as a performance model that should do well
After that I was hooked and it was just a rabbit hole into becoming a track monster
So now it has a entire full carbon fiber body
Including the fenders bumpers doors hard or sorry hood roof and also the wide body kit fully built powertrain engine transmission gutted and caged
Everything under the sun done as far as suspension arms brakes suspension
Coilovers whole bunch of stuff going on here. It's on the forge line wheels. This thing looks absolutely freaking rowdy
It's gotta be so fun to drive. I cannot imagine dude. This is so sick
Yeah, I saw this come through on the submissions
I was like dude this we got we got to talk about this thing because it is absolutely wild
So this is this is cool the the WRL race I did with that IMSA team a couple years ago now
What they what that on that event? We ran Porsche boxers, but normally they were on
RS3
Track card like oh, okay, and I think I'm looking through the modelist right now
But I think that might be the body kit that they have on those race cars because that that is what they look
Oh, it's a M composite LMS
TCR is what he has listed TCR is the right class
I don't know about these to know if they sell them like for aftermarket modifications or if it's like a like a quote-unquote replica kit
Sure, like that, but it looks spot-on like it looks awesome. Yeah, so forge line gw3r's 18 by 11 and a half all around
Toilet our triple 8 ours 295 30 all the way around we got fortune out of 510s a for the model
Bunch of carbon fiber 510s, baby bunch of safety equipment got all three from all 34 motor sports everything
Dude the model like the model is
Such a such a good car, so
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So keep an eye on it hundred percent. Yeah a car stick. That's a frickin 10. Go upload your car. I want to see it
But we'll get into some breaking news. So first up on the list is there is a new alpina
Oh
Exciting for this. Yes, which is really cool because we were in Germany and we're checking out some alpinas that were there
Yeah, it's like at large teach me a little bit about them
I was gonna say talk to me like I'm fine with the hell's an alpina
So alpina is in the old days
It was another it was like an aftermarket shop like a Shelby or Ralph's I'm like it's the Ford and they would take these cars and
Modify them in various ways. They actually have a history in motorsports
So they used to build race cars and then in the last like 15 years or so they've become a luxury brand
And I had to research this because when you posted that that news
I was like why haven't we heard from alpina in a while and it turns out BMW bought them
Oh whole list like as a whole you're ours now. Yeah in 2022 and
They recently announced earlier this year because they're running agreement went through 2026
So now as of this year if BMW officially runs alpina
And they they're setting out to make alpina the luxury arm of BMW the same way that M is the motorsports arm
Damn, okay, so what is this gonna be then because it isn't usually based off of like one of their
Seven series. Oh shit. So this is a one-of-one concept that they did in Lake Como at the at the event
I don't know the name of this event that happened
But like a bunch of my friends were there. It was really cool. I'm seeing pictures of it now
Do this thing is freaking a concept that they have for it
But what I thought was exciting to see is it's gonna have a v8 with over 500 horsepower it from the concept looks
I'm like, oh guys, there's some EV shit and who don't so did you take a look at the interior on this?
It's like a two-tone split interior. Yeah, I thought it was a weird shadow dude. That's crazy
So what they're aiming for is to basically be the the gap between a fully loaded seven series and a Rolls-Royce
So there's a niche in there at like okay that price point apparently. I don't know who's buying these cars
But there's a there's a nice. I was gonna say do this. Yeah, it's cool
And so BMW has a fun history seven series because there's a there's an M sevens
Somebody's gonna call me on this
There's an M760 ILX drive that released in like the early 2020s early 2018 like that range
And at the time it was actually the fastest BMW made
Jesus including M5s M3s all that stuff a seven series because they shove the V12 into it
That V12 is gone. So that V8 is all that's left shit
Dude, that's sick. It's gonna be it's gonna be really okay
They're made for like long cruising like limo stone again way out of our our realm
But that's still really cool the extreme opposite of what we talked about. Yeah. Yeah, literally
Something more in our realm. Oh, yeah, we got Volkswagen announced a new GTI, but no golf in sight
Polo GTI has been released from Volkswagen. Fuck me up. However
Electric wait, what the fuck fuck me up even more sucks because it does honestly look really cool
And if you haven't seen the interior of this thing it it is so sick
They did such a good job with the interior and I'm not knocking it for an electric car
I think it could be a really sick daily or something
But however, it's just like anytime you put like a nameplate on something that holds as much history heritage as like the GTI
Does yeah, you expect something from it and with that. I think we all think of like a gasoline, right?
I feel like this turbocharged. Yeah, I feel like this could have done a really cool thing kind of like how like the GR
Yaris is to the carola. Yeah, like oh here's the little
Like or even like the fiesta ST to the focus
Yes, like I could have gone along that route, but man. They didn't like really know what it is
I really fucking love the interior on it. It's like find a picture simple yet modern like it still does have like your
But if you look below it it has actual physical buttons, which is a big deal
Because they kind of went back on what they have been working on the dash is really cool
It's got like the old-school digital clock like font
Yeah, and actual like needle gauges instead of just numbers
But one thing is I want to see confirm before I say it
It's a non-starter for American import, so this currently will not be available in America, of course
Maybe if it does raise you well, they might bring it over, but maybe price is a bit much too
I don't if you saw that I did not how much we looking in here
It's equivalent of I think it said like 45,000. Oh, yeah, she's of course everything's not everything's north of 40 now
Electric car. Yeah, 45,000 USD
Shit, so yeah, that is very
Again, we I mean I was kind of looking back at comments on like our previous conversations and they're like well
Yeah, look at the price of everything. Exactly. Yeah, like how much is a new golf GTI right now?
so
But it's cool to see I
Think a polo GTI. I like the idea that it does suck that it's EV
however, like I
Bite my tongue saying a little bit too because I would love to drive it to see like does it make me smile
Or is it true a boring EV fucking nothing?
What's what's funny to me?
And it's kind of a noise me actually is they get the styling so right on cars like this
But like why are you putting retro gauges and stuff in an electric car?
Yeah, put that stuff in like a base model GTI
Yeah, and watch people eat that shit up a hundred percent. I would I think that'd be cool as hell a hundred percent
Moving on we got more Germany news
24 hours of Nürburgring weekend tickets sell out for first time. Yeah, that's where Alex is by head of Max first
Yeah, that's why I wanted to bring it up because that's literally where Alex is. Yeah, that is crazy to think about
Yeah, I don't know how many tickets that isn't a number. I didn't open this but that's like the track is it's a pretty big track
Yeah, I guess restructuring the world
So in the facility I stopped there on the the final day in Germany
We drove past the Nürburgring and like again the facility is massive
So it's it's bigger than the town like it's crazy
Area takes up so the fact that it's sold out thinking of all the camping spots and expecting to take so it's insane
So is this because Max drove is that why it's sold out?
Max first happens debut
I think Ben was literally saying earlier he started chuckling at it's funny
He's like dude the the Nürburgring or whatever like Instagram page is like gained a 100000 followers this weekend
Oh my god alone from this race honestly that good. I don't care. I think that's so good for the motorsport and to see
Attract a selling out like that is right awesome. That's amazing. That means we're progressing
We're gaining traction when you have that much traction now
They're looking at other races and it's only gonna excel
The motorsport right and it's happened before when when Kevin Magnuson lost the seat in Formula one
he went to do prototype driving for BMW and IMSA and
That was the first time Alex and I went to the Daytona 24 last year and it was awesome
Like lots people were talking about everybody want to interview him like it created this buzz
You know when they're cross pollinating drivers between the series and yeah, it's super healthy a hundred percent agree
Yeah, I think that's an awesome thing and motorsports needs it so dearly around the ring
It needs more traction needs more people supporting it because otherwise they're gonna keep dealing with these tracks being closed down because
Karen says a car is too loud and that shit that's going on so seeing a news headline like this. I was like, that's dope
That's exciting and the excitement is good for everybody because it makes them that makes the factories excited right and that's
What I feel the goofy stuff like because you get people sorry excited the motorsports
They have a reason to build more performance cars again
Yes, and the goofy stuff like the the wagon that raised the BMW M3 wagon
That was there that was an April Fool's joke that people asked for and Alex made a whole video about it
Yes, it would be posted soon, but we're actually by the time you guys hear this little part. Yeah, I'll be up
Yeah, and it's it's such a fun story
It's just BMW being goofy and it works and it's just cool to look at and be a part of so I didn't realize how goofy silly
BMW low key is
Like they make these insane like high-end luxury sports cars, but they're kind of silly goofy
They used to be a lot goofier
I was talking to Greg with Greg about this earlier like they have a history of being silly
I love that shit though so much like the fucking 12 cylinder SUV they brought the truck them was M3 truck
variant the E46 M3 wagon that they made just
Cuz yeah, like I love that shit or that yeah, I keep doing that BMW
We like that that makes the enthusiasts happy to see you toying around with stuff like that
Speaking of BMW making enthusiasts happy I have great and exciting news to share more German news
Yep, more German news is a little in the higher end of the price range, but it caught my attention
So historically the CS models of all the cars have only ever come in automatic. Oh, I didn't know that exception
I don't think there's an exception. I think even the M2 CS
Was manual or it was automatic only actually not take it back the the my generation M2 had a CS and that came in manual
Oh, really? That was the only one all the other ones have been DCT automatic and BMW just a couple days ago announced that the new
M3 CS is getting a limited edition
Hunt shelter which stands for hand shifter, but they're putting a manual transmission in a modern BMW CS
Which is which is really cool. You can tell they had to like fiddle with it because like the shifter is in like an awkward spot
Oh, yeah, it is kind of to the buttons
I'm really excited about this when the last couple times I've sat in them or drove them the M3 specifically is the one
I fell in love with so
This one really had me perk up
Way out of my price range right now
But this this would be what I'm looking for as a use card some point. Yeah 100% and I agree keep the manuals coming
Yes, they're kind of slipping away from us. I was a lot of German news
I was seeing how you could say breaking news in German
Yeah, I feel like I'd just be yelling at someone if I try to say it. I feel like that's all of German
Yeah, but then you have like Han shifter, which is like hand shifter. It's like really close to English
This is not like that. Sometimes. How do you say this? Sometimes it's way off. Oh
Man, I don't know
I'm good. I'm good. You're turning. I'll try
October non
Shriek then that's pretty good. Yeah breaking news
That's why we have to refer to it now. That's how I realized when we were there
It does have a fucking Texas speech hold on. I can just perfect. Let's see how close I was. I'm really curious. All right
Just play his clip again
Oh, no, I did not have that
There was a few more syllables
But yeah, some were super close some not even remotely close at all
Oh, yeah, there's some good stuff come on. I'm glad we had some positive news for changes good
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About this episode
Gen Z’s car tastes are getting pulled backward by nostalgia—supercharged by social media and marketing—and the hosts dig into why older cabins feel more engaging than screen-heavy modern setups. They also push back on reducing cars to zero-to-60 numbers, sharing their own shifts toward “slow on something chill” and more personality-driven builds. Along the way, they cover rotary fuel costs, “weird” picks like the RX-7 and Cobalt SS, and even BMW’s new M3 CS manual news.
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