It's a 06 convertible Corvette that's smashed and you usually don't get to find that 5.5
crank motor. It's not for sale. You can't buy it. You have to buy a smashed Corvette or something
that's been burnt up or something like that, which I've seen those too. But this is a running
driving car, supposedly, which got some bent suspension for 55 grand. And it's making my brain
do weird things. And I just want to cut one up really bad because it's such a great platform.
I think you could put a cool body on it. I just thought you could buy a
kit car body potentially, like a cheap kit car, like a Bradley or something really weird and stuff
it on there and make it look like something cheap but super duper fast. But also you could
re-body it. Aluminum body or something like that would be really, really cool.
But I think like a kit car, some sort of obscure kit car and then adapted to that body,
I think that'd be really cool. Yeah, that is kind of a cool idea.
What's all smashed on it? Front and the back.
Those are unusable or is it just mostly cosmetic?
I think, I thought in the ad it said the insurance paid out like over 100 grand.
It's total. There's nothing with the body that's usable, I don't think. It runs and drives,
but body-wise it's junk. Sometimes that's the best opportunity.
And it's also convertible. It could be really cool. I think you'd have to have a client
that would be like, we have to have a plan and this is definitely have a client in mind and stuff,
but boy, would that be cool. I don't know. There's a lot of people that would necessarily
start that. That's a pretty big project. Yeah, I've been thinking about doing
something not on that profit scale or that price scale, but I was looking at my kids
getting big into like drifting and stuff like that. And I said, maybe I should build a drift car
after the trucks. And I was looking at a lot of the Lexus chassis because they run the same
dual over at Camv8 that I rebuilt for my truck. So I was thinking, oh, I could be something
that's familiar. I've got a whole spare motor here. So I could do something like that.
And they're mostly rear wheel drive and whatever. But the more I thought about
how I would re-body a Lexus to make it something like I'd want, I'm like,
why wouldn't I just start with a drive, you know, a motor and transmission and then just build a
chassis for it, you know, do like a whole tube chassis custom body type car instead of
taking something and then unmaking it to make it into what I want. Why not just like
almost start fresh with just a drive train? You're not, you're not dealing with suspension.
It's got bad geometry or weight distribution. That's weird. You could just
take only the parts you want and then, you know, just kind of build a completely one-off car.
Yeah, to me, I'm just to the point where I want to start with something that's
a little better to begin with. Oh, I imagine. You know, not trying to take like a couple
thousand dollar car and turn it into some piece of jewelry, which is cool. But man,
it's such a long journey. Oh, my God. Yeah. I just sometimes I have a hard time being happy
with working around something that wasn't designed for what I'm trying to do.
That's like LED.
Yeah. I think a Bradley body on something like that would be just outrageous.
Yeah. I mean, some of those that one, there's one Bradley coupe that actually with,
if you mess with the body lines a little bit actually is like a really,
I mean, you could make it look like a really, really cool car, like really, really rad.
No, but I don't think people would really understand that it was a Bradley to begin with
if you had it on a C8 chassis that was that wide, you know, it would be,
it would be pretty cool, I think. But I don't know if I want to do that much fiberglass work.
I'd rather just like, I don't know, you can make molds and like make it out of carbon
or something like that. You know, I don't know. There's a lot of places around that new molds
and and around in Wisconsin, it's just a matter of finding the right place.
J.W. Rodgrodge actually had all their fiberglass molds for their 32 Roadster, their 32 coupe,
all their like fiberglass cars that they replicated and because they stopped making them because
they weren't really like people weren't buying them anymore. So there's people around that make them.
I actually had a thought that you could buy that those those molds for like, let's say
those fiberglass hot rods like Model A's and 32's and stuff like that and then do like a shem composite
because like Henry Ford like they almost switched the whole line to hem composite in the 40s during
the war because it was they get there's actually a picture out there of Henry Ford bouncing a
baseball bat off of a deck lid and it not denting. So it's actually some pretty cool stuff and
I think Porsche is using it as a carbon fiber alternative. Is there using a hem composite?
You know like you could make a whole body out of hem composite.
I don't know what it would look like at five, ten years down the road though if it was hold up in the
if it was hold up at all really.
I would think if it in a resin it would be fine. I think I just don't know what the UV would be
like on it if you were trying to run it raw but painting it and it was you know totally saturated
in some sort of you know epoxy resin or polyester resin I imagine it basically hold up the same as
anything. Couldn't be any worse than a Corvette right? Couldn't be any worse. I mean really though
I'm in the stick of ours and yeah I don't know. I always thought that my original wanting of a C8 was to
because I thought the back bumper was terrible I think the taillights are terrible kind of
and I thought like I really like the the latest Ford GT that has like you can like see
through the quarter panels look like to the cockpit I don't know if you've the newer GTs
like what if you did that sort of styling and like got rid of the trunk of the C8 behind the
motor there's like a spot that you could put your golf golf golf bags and stuff I think
you put two golf bags in there. What if you ace that move that whole ass end of that car up a foot
and then made a new bumper that went right up to the gate I like
like a new aftermarket bumper kind of a thing I don't know that seems like a lot of
dicking around but to me it could be a product to sell you know having a product to sell versus
just labor hours as a could be a game changer but there's people out there with Corvettes
is just you may have to have the right look that appeals to a lot of people that are gonna want to buy
it. Yeah it might be a problem getting people to drill out all the spot welds for a trunk and
stuff like that on their C8 Corvette to install the shorter rear end too. Well it's not I don't
it's not drilling spot welds it's like composite I think you got to like cut it off look yeah
it's it's you'd have to really be dedicated yeah I mean I would do it I totally won't
let's make less space in a C8 that's cool. You could do like coach built C8s where you take
somebody's car and do like a whole coach build different body um where you change the back and
stuff like that. It's kind of like what I honestly that's that's I really really like that idea
like that's I've had that idea for a while but it's how do you uh without having a car to even start
how do you even we don't have you gotta have a car that you can at least put your hands on all day
to at least get a prototype or something started and then figure out how you're gonna make multiple
of them you know make a mold and that either do like carbon composite
they're carbon or composite depending on I don't really don't know of you what I would do but
that's like I feel I'm dreaming a little bit there is I got so much work stacked in front of me that
it's just a fantasy I think maybe at this point we'll see we'll get there I just seen that there
was a uh myself there to take uh for 3d scanning for like a shop like me to be able to 3d scan
here and then build a part in on a program and send it off and get printed or it sounds like a
something I might end up doing sounds pretty cool yeah the scanners I guess are getting a lot more
affordable too yeah I mean you can buy that they seem pretty cheap for what you can do with them
right you know I need have accessibility to having it printed on you know half million
dollar machine or you know million dollar machines that you don't have to have the investment of you
just have it the file sent off and send it back and or send you a part back it sounds pretty
enticing to me yeah I see a lot of that with like the pre-runner guys and stuff where they're doing
like roll cages and things and they do it all in CAD and they send it out to be CNC bent so
that everything just shows up bent and notched from a CAD drawing and they just weld it together
perfect fit did you see that did you see that um that fuller moto and they put that car together
that was a hot wheels car it was like a Cadillac de Ville like a really huge bulbous fender 30s car
huge roadster thing they had uh it was originally I think it was originally a hot wheels car they
blew it up obviously the full scale real size and had it all 3d printed 3d cnc metal shaped I guess
you'd say um at that salt flat saltworks I think it is uh in Florida they printed it all sent it
all to this fuller moto and they flew in metal shapers from all over the country and they put
it together in like four days that's pretty wild they welded all the panels together yeah it's it's like
it's very very very cool they had all these parts showed up in boxes and they just threw this car
to get like I shouldn't say they threw the car together I mean they like the best metal shapers
in the country were there um but yeah I mean you got you still have to line the panels
like weld the stuff together you know finish it all out
really impressive super impressive a part of me feels like that almost takes the fun out of it
like the art out of it like there is an art form to that but I feel like it takes some of that human
element out of it yeah but if you have the ability to foresee problems in a computer program
oh yeah it's just like and especially for a shop like me that's really small you know it's just me
and my wife and we hire you know we just sub and help for mechanical stuff um it can really help push
things forward like this front bumper I built for this Mustang like we could have had the whole
thing shaped like probably sent in I don't know four pieces and welded it together and it would
have been done instead of making it out of I don't know how many pieces I mean it's a lot a lot more
than four you know so I you just speed the process it's not like you're it's it's taking away a
little bit of the fun but it's some of the fun you don't need to like Rob Ida he was talking
about he has one of these machines and he was kind of talking about like who wants to build a door jam
like nobody like unless you're like a super nerd and you're I don't know nobody wants to build door
jams and like rocker panels and stuff like that you know just print it have it printed and install
it right I mean there's still gonna be a lot of finessing to do and installation it's not like
just like getting an aftermarket panel for something there's gonna be tolerances you know
I wonder it would be a good investment to scan that Mustang when you're done with it and then
you know you could have something like that as an option where you sell you know like that
bumper kit that you built as a four piece weld yourself thing you know what I mean like people
see that car they go oh that's a different style than I've seen before and then they can buy literally
what you have and if you do stuff like we do at my work people order it and then there's like a
four to six week lead time on everything is built to order because it doesn't make sense
to have ten of those on the shelf I mean even that that headlight even the headlights where
you you know replicate the the pot metal and weld that on that would be a great idea actually
I got my wheels really tearing yeah screw the C8 we're going 3d scanning
it's a good like business investment because you can scale parts a lot more especially if you're
outsourcing them to be made you just you know I mean you scan them you you've already done the work
of forming it and then this guy has the original he has the hand form part so it's not like you're
taking away from him and then you can sell apart multiple times that all you're really doing
is putting in an order and shipping after you've gotten the 3d scan and it and cad and all that
yeah because you could even do like a blank without the shape that's just without the fog light
opening and the intercooler opening you could do it like a blank of it too and like have them cut
their own holes if they wanted to as well I think my brain really really freaking spent in here
and then I was thinking oh the you're talking about like 32 forward molds and stuff like that
is there anybody selling like carbon fiber 32 forward parts so somebody could buy a whole front
you know like hoods grill deck lid out of carbon fiber
no idea because that would be a pretty easy thing to get into and something cool
cool yeah it would be that would be pretty easy I think it's I mean because all it's
going to do is buy an aftermarket grill and you know you're you're there you're halfway there
right um getting into the I think the carbon the carbon mold making when they're doing the
vacuum bag stuff it doesn't seem that and like overwhelming no seems like you just needed
the right products and and the right stuff in front of you and it seems pretty pretty dry
so that stuff really doesn't scare me too much it'd be cool to make a bumper like this out of carbon
like the front the sheet metal one I made like make that out of carbon and have that
a mold made that out of carbon that would be cool because I mean sheet metal stuff is cool
and it was just me being able to have a substrate that I can I can work with and make cool like I
I'm not that that's familiar with aluminum making that out of aluminum would have been a
really tall order for me anyways that would have not yeah that would have been really tough
sheet metal stuff enough and the aluminum's a little over my head as far as like making an
aluminum body would be I say I want to do it but holy cow that's a lot of work it's not very forgiving
no not at all it's a little intimidating for me actually
yeah I have some friends here that do like the carbon they do boat parts but uh they do all
that carbon you know where it's they vacuum form it and then do all that so that's actually
wouldn't be I've seen some some shops down here because Florida's fiberglass
it's like the fiberglass headquarters every every fiberglass manufacturer is down here because
people are you know build it all sorts of custom boats and surfboards and everything here often
and uh so with making that there is I don't you know I mean if you've never been a part of
it there is a big thing about mold maintenance every time you pull a mold the epoxy because
it's a chemical reaction or the polyester whatever resin you're using it makes heat and so that will
slowly change the shape of your mold over time and so there is you know you got to make your buck
or your positive and then you make your mold and then your mold might only be good for
let's say 50 to 100 poles you know you got to keep using you're putting a police agent on it
every few and things like that but um I've got friends here that were taking like boat
outboard boat cowels the cowling that covers the whole motor and then copying it in or making a mold
of it and then making carbon fiber outboard cowlings because they were doing a full carbon fiber boat
and they wanted carbon fiber motors on it and all sorts of cool stuff and so I've got a friend who's
been doing that stuff since the 90s and he's doing all that custom work so if I got into
doing a car part that would actually I'd have a guy that could just literally give me a shopping
list and then help me do the first handful of them wow that's really interesting it sounds really cool
and then if you want to get more into technology side on it you could 3d scan your bumper
you could have somebody with a cnc mill out a positive you know like a buck out of wood
or whatever or foam or whatever and then you could make a mold off of that you could even
print one out of plastic couldn't you you could but a lot I mean it'd be like abs would probably
the best plastic you could do it out of and that's kind of I don't know that anybody wants a abs
bumper on their 65 Mustang well just use it for a mold oh yeah yeah you can do that um I a lot
of times they want the molds to be really sturdy because you're wrapping in fiberglass and it's gonna
make heat so even though abs can take heat it's also got some flexibility to it so a lot of times they
make them out of wood so they would see and see it out of wood and then you would coat that with
this like uh there's like a gel coat type stuff you put it on it and soft for a few days so you
can wet sand it all down really smooth and then that hardens and then you put a release agent
on that and then you just build your molds off that same part forever crazy and then you
start making carbon fiber must bumpers it'd be cool I think the hood even your well is that
are those like a gt-40 style scoop right go ahead
yeah that yeah there's like I can't remember which generation uh gt-40 has like the
but like the center one's like angle in um but yeah it's definitely like the fog light opening
and the whole front bump basically the front bumper and the hood I'm trying to take as much
styling from a gt-40 as possible because I love those cars it's like that would be I mean the
reason I have a slight love for the the c8 is just because it's mid-engine and it's kind of the obtainable
gt-40 if you want you know it's not a gt-40 but um it's close enough for this guy
but I mean I've never I haven't seen this particular styling put on this car like with
the bumpers tucked in and not out like the majority of cars that get built a little
lower end up being um so I don't know I just really dig the styling of the gt-40 so the the hood cutouts
are we still have to have the opening uh when I get everything the motor thrown back in this
next month and get the radiator and everything I have to get the radiator connected to the
bottoms of the uh the hood opening so it'll actually have out like a radiator out in
through those openings there um and then figure out a little transition piece or whatever but
shouldn't be that big of a deal well that's kind of cool since the firewall and everything's welded in
ready to go back in and start adapting all the parts getting the fuel pedal figured out and all
that stuff but hopefully that's by the end of this next week I think nice what have you been
working on this week brookville roadster yeah I got the floors made for the front floors made
for that so they didn't really come with the pieces he got were just some small transmission
tunnel pieces that weren't really they were like I don't know uh like 14 gauge I don't know what
they were really used for but anyways so we started over we made it all uh we made it out of 18 gauge
was kind of matched the rest of the floors that were in the back of it um I tried to
match the bead size that was in the back so it was I made a pull max die or modified a pull max
die that I already had to match that that size bead I didn't have anything for the bead roller
that size it's pretty large bead for a bead roller um you also with a bead that size you
usually have to pre-stretch the material so you don't end up with a floppy piece of bacon
kind of on the on the edges um so I did a lot of pre-stretching in the in the power hammer
get the the height and the the amount of material in for the bead in all the bead areas then you
got to remark it so your lines are straight um and then get a fence next to the guy or next to
because you're with a pull max you're going sideways so um you basically have to have a
fence next to right next to where your bead is going to be so I got all that beat it out
we got the transmission tunnel piece uh power hammered out and and uh flanged out so we can
just basically spot weld it all together got all spot welds cut got all welded in and ground down by
friday afternoon so there's rocking and rolling made them all and welded them in in four days
it's pretty cool that's cooking um bead yeah what uh this might be naive amoeba what is the
why pole max over just like a bead roller is it the size of the bead you can't do that that that large
of a bead with a bead roller um you I think you a guy could you could with multiple passes
usually you're doing multiple passes in a pole max anyways um but you can move a lot of material
a lot faster um it is nice with a bead roller because you can just you know if you can
crank it down and run a straight line you can do it by yourself really easily without having to have
a fence made or anything for the for the line um sometimes it's just dies if you don't have the
right die I mean it's easier to make pole max die than it would be to make a a bead roller die
for me I didn't have a blade or anything I mean you're still gonna to make to make a bead
you know you're gonna to make a top and bottom for a bead roller I mean and that's a lot of material
because it's the whole wheel top and all the way around with a pole max you're only doing three
quarter inch by three quarter inch if you can keep it that's if you could keep it if it's
within three quarter of an inch that's this the stock size that goes into the pole max
or my two max anyways um but it's just uh it's time investment and getting it's time investment in
results I think you're gonna get better results quicker with this pole max uh just by doing
the pre-stretching with the rubber upper in my in the in the power hammer and it took longer
to get the fence made than it did to actually pre-stretch it and run it through the pole max
uh I mean the the longest part about it was probably getting the die to fine tune to where
it's not marring the metal and stuff like that um but there it's just more of a versatile machine
you the bead roller you can it's very limited you can you can run a lot of passes on something
that's still not right even if you have the the dies right and to me that Bailey bead roller
works pretty well for its price range um but I got in on trade for doing work for a guy so it was like
this is the one that was presented to me and the dies that I have I've been really invested on
new dies just because I have a pole max and I have a lot of stock that came with the pole max
so I can just like I've been you just make a pole max die and it's you have it forever
this machine last forever it's a 1952 or 53 machine pretty sure it's going to be around for a while yet
right longer than both of us probably it came over uh from Sweden through Chicago the guy that
the company that it came through or the pole max company is bought now by a guy or not bought
not by a guy a guy has all the basically info on the card that the pole max is that came across
basically so he can tell you if you give him a serial number he can tell you where yours came
from who it was who was originally bought for so this was bought from or bought for a place in
Minneapolis that made barrels like oil barrels so there's actually notched out on the bottom so
they can make like you know the barrels that your oil comes in right the I don't think it was five
they might have done 55 gallons but it's the bead the big beads thick beads on the on the
oil barrels this is what they made them on that's kind of cool
and I was given to a company in Marshfield here to do a job for them it was given to them
and then also like I'm the third owner which is kind of nuts in 73 years
only three hours yeah it's pretty pretty yeah that's pretty it was actually offered
the the maintenance guy at the place that I got it from is like this old biker dude like white
hair white beard like he's definitely the quintessential biker guy um he was out west
at some big biker fest thing and actually offered this to Jesse James apparently
which I think is kind of funny he's like yeah I was trying to get Jesse James to buy it from me
but he said he already had one I'm like yeah he's probably had one of these for like 35 years or
something right but um yeah I don't know what's he doing it's just a it's a p5 so it's not like
the big uh Jesse James I don't know making the guns usually uh guns it's a few
it's still monster garage for me
yeah I mean I can't say that he hadn't hasn't had a impact on my life I mean watching all those shows
as a kid wow it definitely opened your eyes so like there's a dude just throwing metal over his
knee and turning it into a gas tank and then he's riding it down the road he built the frame and
everything it's like excuse me that's uh pretty nuts yeah I remember when all the big west coast
choppers and all the chopper shows were out I was uh taking my my BMX bike and cutting the frame
and raking it out and extending the fork so I could have like this cool laid out 20 inch bike
almost impossible to ride you know I did I chopped it and raked it out and then I realized
that the cranks were too long so then I had to shorten the cranks to like two and a half inches
so like this but it looked really sweet sitting there for the same thing to a Schwinn like the
same thing yeah it was like dangerous to ride it was like I ruined it yep yep
oh to be a kid again it's okay we needed that I think just to get us in get us going
yeah well sometimes you need to know what doesn't work right usually that's the lesson that you learn
yeah I think that's an addison thing right he didn't fail 10,000 times he learned he learned 10,000
ways not to make a light bulb or something like that yeah there's there's a lot to be said with that
because I mean you can build like even building sheet metal panels uh you can build something
and it works out slicker than shit the first time and then you go to build the opposite side
you go to build the opposite side and you get your ass just kicked like that ass kicking was
you just got lucky the first time I think some of it is just getting lucky the first time I think
so I don't know there is definitely
like you the the less the the hard things definitely sink in a little harder I think
um I don't know that's all I got on that yeah I had a friend who's who's uh working on a square
body Chevy right now and this isn't me picking on me him this is this is stuff for people to learn
because we went through it Quinn and I are just talking about failures but my friend's
rebuilding this you know the marketplace engine for his for his truck and uh he has
trying to do everything right he primed the heck out of the oil on it he's was you know went through
and kind of didn't outside gasket kit he didn't take the heads off or anything like that um
we said he primed the oil for like 10 minutes 20 minutes or something like that so it'd be super
good on first startup and then he got it fired up finally when he got the timing close
enough to get the thing running took a video of it running and then uh I don't know if it was
a while he was videoing or what he realized that the tool or he didn't have oil pressure
so he'd been running no oil boy yeah so he kills it oh yeah he well he shuts it off
I know you know exactly the feeling uh so he shuts it off and then uh he's digging all
over trying to figure out why he doesn't have oil pressure and the tool for reaching in and
priming the oil pump on a small block Chevy through the distributor hole took the oil pump
drive shaft out of the motor with it oh no yeah so um he had to pull the big suck put the shaft
back in he did send a video of it running again and he was using 2050 weight he said it ran for
only like a minute and so hopefully everything's okay because it's coated in 50 weight it was primed
it's a small black Chevy so it's pretty loose tolerance to begin with and um
he's saving it's a small block chef oh my god that's funny but uh he had it running it's
straight headers right now so he's like I can't tell if it's knocking or what and I said well
what's your timing set at and he goes I'm not sure I gotta buy a timing light tomorrow I said well
let's just hope that if you don't feel anything and it's running okay that that you're just hearing
it sounded like timing to me in the video sounded like uh it just had zero advance to it it was
just barely going but he we're gonna cross our fingers he didn't wipe the bearings out on it um
but he's like yeah it's hard to troubleshoot and he's gonna run right yeah he's like I feel
terrible about it and I was like well hold on to that feeling and then maybe you'll be as paranoid as
me on on engine startups after a bunch of work like that because I redid the motor in the tundra
I don't want to say that was like January and uh everything assembly lube took it you know
everything apart honed everything cleaned the engine a bunch of times but my number one
concern on fire up with oil pressure oil pressure oil pressure so I'm like key on hold
in the key and I'm watching the gauge and I was ready to kill it if it didn't have oil pressure
within the first 10 seconds even though it's like heavily coated in assembly lube it's just
that kind of thing because something so short is not having oil pressure for 30 seconds
can really just ruin your day yeah yeah that'd be a bad day definitely very bad
so we're crossing our fingers that his motor's good
great yeah I that's some scary stuff
that's why the sheet metal stuff sounds so much more linear when you don't have to deal with
I could see you just if you want to see what's inside you just turn it around you know oh yeah
that's true I uh I didn't know what I wanted to do when I was 18 and then we had the
wyotec rep come into the autos class in school and he was talking about all the different courses
they had and everything and I knew I liked cars and I knew I was probably gonna end up working on
cars I probably should have went with all the machining work I had been doing and just become
a machinist that would probably have been a better living but uh he was in there talking
even the machinist and untapped motorist would be like really awesome like they would
be really sweet make a lot of cool shit oh yeah but I sat there and I was like if I'm
gonna work on cars I don't think I want to do brake jobs and oil changes and just change parts
for the rest of my life so that's kind of why I went into like paint and body work and motorsports
chassis fab I just the creation aspect of it and like the you know you're doing something that just
has like a you know a visual effect so you always kind of have that going for you everything
you do is almost going to have you know like a you know a victory feel to it because it's
going to be hopefully better than when you started to me I really love the I mean I like
making things like like restorations are pretty I think they're pretty cool when you have a goal
um some of these like when you call I don't know restomads or hot rods when everybody has
like a time period when they're trying to like I have a vision of this car being from
you know like this 66 Mustang we're trying to go for like a late 60s race car if everything was
built out of sheet metal like using Shelby Shelby inspiration and GT 40 like like late 60s race
car but a little more finished and nice like a lot more finished and nice I should say
but like and then the model over here he's got a really late 50s vibe that he wants to go
so everybody's got kind of like a the vibe they're going sometimes working in constraints
and then being creative within constraints is really fun like really really fun for me
yeah it makes you look at things from a different angle when you got to like peer through this lens
of 1950s or 1960s or you know whatever if they've got a style that they well it makes you
yeah I think it makes you get out of your box as far as like you're forcing you to expose
yourself to things that you wouldn't normally like you wouldn't normally integrate in something that
you would do for yourself necessarily but then that turns into finding things that you are inspired
by and when you find when you find something new that you're inspired by that's like the
golden ticket and that's that's if you could find that once a month or once every couple
months that's something that I can that's a lot of gas in the tank you know right when you find
something like this Mustang has been a lot of gas in the tank I mean it takes a long time to get
some of this stuff accomplished and like actually looking finished and like to say yes I can move
on to the next step and this is somebody can walk on the shop and say this is amazing looking
and then I'm moving on to the next part and the next part is the next part but I don't know
every day's a school day so Gene said yeah I uh I try to as often as I can when I'm
making decisions or um being creative or whatever I always try to ask other people their opinion
not because I necessarily need their votes for something but um like I was looking at wheels
this week for the truck uh because it's got some just terrible bullet hole style wheels on it they
just don't fit the vibe but the trophy truck vibe of the truck anymore and I was looking at wheels
and so I go through and I pick out like five sets of wheels that I kind of like I already know which
ones I like the best but what I do is I ask other people which ones of these would you pick
and then they tell me and I'm not necessarily looking to agree with them or have them skew
what I'm gonna do but sometimes I had so I had two people pick at the same wheel
and when I was analyzing like why would they pick that wheel what you know what I want that
wheel on there and then I it almost from looking at it deeper and why they liked it I well in
that case I found out why I didn't like it because it was like a five spoke wheel and the
truck six lug and I have this weird thing about like if you have six lugs and five spokes
it just like it's a little weird you know what I mean and then I was like why do they like this
style wheel and then I was going oh well that's the ken block style five spoke rally wheel with the
vents around the outside so it's kind of big influential wheel which is cool I looked at
a set like of 1552 wheels for the truck which are the ken block they actually had a little 43 on
them and everything but it just doesn't a hundred percent fit what I'm doing because
it's a rally wheel and the truck so you know like a basically a want to be trophy truck
but like all the time I'm asking people like hey what do you think of this and they might
they might completely change my opinion or they might just make me look at a different
and then you know it'll it'll steer me in a different direction or I'll go oh while I was
thinking of that I want you know I kind of think maybe I should go more this direction
and it's like I need other people's feedback to steer me around
so I don't just do everything I've done that before
I'm usually I'm usually the one that's like if somebody if there's like a consensus
I don't know I just sit on people's decision I'm usually the one that's like well not doing
that I will make something else make or improve you wrong I don't know what it is uh
the some defiance in me somehow I don't really understand it but I always think the group think
is probably not always right in any circumstance yeah I think it has its um
um has its place and I think it's good for let's say outside of the box thinkers to see
what what what people are thinking and why they're thinking that and you know what I mean like is
that something I want to be I don't know acknowledging it and participating are
two different things right otherwise we'd all be driving Ford Mustangs with five O's in them
or something the same car
yeah I mean I have a guy that stopped in that wants to build a Mustang he stopped in this
last week he's got a 67 coupe but he wants to build it like the martini Mustang I don't know
I've never heard of it until he sent me videos of it but it's a 65 fastback I don't know 65
coupe um but it's got some indie motor in it and it's got a like a some transmission that's got
straight cut gears in it that's like super duper loud and gnarly and nuts like the car is looks
kind of stock on the outside but it is way crazy and he wants to put these vibes into his car and
it was like he was super excited about it he's got also got like a uh six 60 horse
linen flagger uh vet that he's got like he's he's also got some crazy stuff apparently so
I was pretty pretty excited about that guy coming in and uh he sounds pretty serious and I'm pretty
excited about that it's just a matter of it's going to be a while before we can fit it in the
shop right um just talking about new projects kind of gets excited about just moving it just
gets excited about moving it even puts a little gas in the tank for getting the projects done
that are in the shops like yeah there's cars after this keep moving yeah sometimes you need
you need to be looking forward to something else so you have motivation to finish while you're on
you know so you can get to that next thing yeah sometimes I feel like it's groundhogs
they just coming back to the you know because we're rotating budgets and stuff and trying to
fit in helping as many people as they can and it's just looking at the same stuff some
maybe it's time to play around robin again and smooth smooth move some things around this afternoon
maybe I don't know we'll see speaking of motivation I got some wonderful motivation
from the tiktok comments this week um everybody was trashed my
I um I will say there was at least one person in the comments that had a pre-runner
now I will also say it looked like mostly bolt-on Ford Ranger pre-runner parts so um
you know there's a lot of difference between designing something and buying something and
bolting it on but you know I'm sure those parts are made in a nice shop they weren't made in the
a side yard um and the guys probably had shoes on they weren't wearing sandals and welding and
grinding when I am but I I honestly found it interesting because I post I only post on tiktok
like once a month just to kind of keep that channel open if that's the way somebody wants to find me
but um I find it amusing that everywhere I post things are neutral or positive for the most part
except for you know a stray comment here or there but I post on tiktok and it is a hundred percent
people giving me expert advice and hate and by people giving me expert advice I mean they're
telling me that you can't push a mig weld and stuff like that I'm like I don't think you totally
understand and then they're like your wire speeds off I'm like okay
I don't know if you know that video then not getting the right you know that yeah that's
some people just need to not comment on anything on the internet at all
in my opinion but whatever there's times where I want to definitely comment on people's stuff
I mean I've had my days where I've had some buddies of mine talk me off the ledge from
pointing some bad fingers at some people but um it's just not worth it at the end of the day
you know I have too much stuff to do to hover over my phone all day and worry about what
some dickhead's saying on his couch eating Cheetos telling calm me pathetic it's like
I don't know man you gotta I wouldn't trade places with him so I ain't gonna take
too much weight on his words I don't know the beanbag chair in his mom's basement might be
pretty comfortable I don't know I do like Cheetos everyone's knowing also
yeah I uh on my youtube I respond to every single comment that comes through and I do it
with positivity every time which I almost find more amusing oh yeah killing with kindness right
uh I think I got it from my kid what used to watch outdoor boys which was a huge channel and the
guys like recently kind of just quit doing it because you got he's just like I don't feel like
doing this anymore and he's got like the huge huge channel but obviously videos keep making money
so he can say I quit but the channel keeps bringing in revenue and I'm sure that they're
still merchandise being sold he's just not making new videos but he did one where he
was reading the most awful comments on their youtube channel and he'd be like thanks user
61739 I'll keep that in mind and he like just kept reading these horrible things and then just
like thanking him thanks for watching and for the comment and it was just glorious so I try to
keep that energy that's something it's just like the hobbyist sometimes the hobbyist car stuff that
trickles over into the uh you know that there's even a difference from your videos to mine I'm
trying to portray myself from uh from a business perspective for the most part uh your videos
are not necessarily like I'm getting to that point you know as far as having you know I think
you're probably pretty close to having your own business I would think potentially but um
it's it's just it's almost there's a level of making sure you're portraying yourself right to
future customers too I don't know do you have that pressure on yourself um I don't feel uh
a pressure from it because like what I'm selling because what I can sell and will sell forever
is me as a brand and so the only way I can show me is by being me I'm not gonna be a fake
not that you're I'm not gonna withhold obviously I don't put a lot of family stuff on I don't
put too much personal stuff on but I just do like uh you know I just give an honest authentic
version of me which is corny sometimes and whatever and I take a lot of vibes from like
early 2000s tv shows but also what I'm showing that doesn't make me feel uh pressure from
you know future customers or whatever is I'm you know basically barefoot in the sun outside
building something that's going to perform that's going to hold up and when I have the finish work
done on it it's gonna look good I I know that because I've done it in professional environment
and so if anything I'm showing that even with you know without a shop at the moment and without
great tools I am doing the job of somebody you know you know I might be doing more than what
somebody can do in a professional environment you know I'm showcasing skills not necessarily
selling this is the driveway you want your truck paint you know what I mean um
oh for sure I'm not knocking it means it's just I'm just trying to yeah just trying to relate
yeah and then like I manage a channel for a friend of mine um manage a channel I mean that's
I mean we can that's as loose as you want to say it but I help a friend with his channel
uh I do a lot of the posting I help him with the editing um because he has a business to run
and when he's doing it I'm kind of like okay you're running a business so you got to tell
me the vibe you want to portray do you want to portray this is just a hundred percent
you know professional cut and dry we're not going to have too much fun we're not going to do too much
of that or do you want it to be kind of like a you know work hard guys it's a fun relaxing you're
kind of selling yourself as a business too so like you like to have a little fun uh
so it was kind of hard but you get that to do that because you have to keep things entertaining
and not so dry but also portray a professional business doing quality work and things like
things like that and so we had some talks in the beginning but ultimately like
and I know we've talked about your channel or whatever and I think you just kind of got to
do what feels right for you um you know you don't have to show all your cards you don't
have to do everything and show every little thing for sure but there's like an authenticity to
showing bad days too you know what I mean like
so I mean that's the hard part business showing showing a bad day for as a business is that
that's a hard thing to be like check us out why would you know why would we want to portray
as a business well I don't necessarily mean that but I mean like there's struggles as far as
like sometimes you know uh something doesn't move the way it's supposed to or some sort of
circumstance happens and it's like relatable but not necessarily a bad yeah yes it makes sense
yeah I guess that makes sense so like if you can show what I guess I'm too far
who is happening yeah I mean and that's fine I I don't even video everything I do and
mean I've made full videos that I just never posted because I'm like to me since it's more
of an entertainment thing that I'm doing is uh if I record a bunch of stuff and edit it and it's
not I don't see a value for the people that are gonna watch it it's like why even post this
you know I mean like I'm not here to necessarily waste anybody's time I'm just kind of showing
what I'm up to and trying to you know give them a little inspiration or a laugh or whatever
tiktokers man I'm not a tiktoker I would say uh if you want to stay away from negativity probably
tiktok and uh twitter x or whatever it is or just a good place to stay away from
and yeah definitely staying away from that stuff it doesn't seem like there is a lot of
traffic for um high-end automobile clients on there but I haven't I haven't heard of that being
but we'll see yeah and I don't know that if it's not providing any like
what I'm saying about like showing bad days it'd be like uh you know this piece of equipment
is acting up or you know what I mean that or what you know what I mean or you had to
figure something you know what I mean not necessarily like even that you're struggling
with something and I'm sure at this point in your career you don't struggle with anything at all
anymore oh yeah nothing ever it's just perfection day in and day out really easy every day all the time
and all these cars are all the same and it's all easy all my friends my friend that I help him with
his youtube channel but he always he always gets mad at me because I'm like oh this is easy
but he's like oh everything's just easy for you isn't it I'm like this is easy
yeah that's how I feel with you and your youtube stuff you're you're always you're like and just social
media in general you're pushing stuff and I'm just like wow it's Wednesday already it's
Friday already like I'm a whiplash from the week um I kind of uh to me I don't allow myself
and this isn't judgment on anybody but like I don't allow myself to make a lot of excuses for
stuff or to to get out of things I because like uh that's probably just the dad in me because I can
or in you know managing people and whatever you know like if you got time to lean you got time
to clean well we're all on our phone when we don't need to be for at least 10 minutes of the day
10 minutes of the day so in that 10 minutes of the day instead of and let's be real it's a lot longer
but in that 10 minutes of the day that I'm on my phone if I don't have anything actually productive
going on or I don't actually need just a break to shut the brain off and watch some dude cut
a Porsche up or something like that I try to instead of just being a consumer and consuming
and consuming and death scrolling away I'm like why don't I take five of this 10 minutes and I just
make something and so like my whole channel has been just built on like I mean workout they could
be like a way to make it sound fluffy and manly but really it's just I mean I understand it's
just me showing up every day and spending five minutes it's not necessary like to make a to
make a 10 second short how long does it take me I just anytime I'm doing something I just video
anything that I would go I should send a picture of this to Quentin or I should send a video of
this to Quentin at some point I just video that moment whether it's me catching a snake in the
shop or you know there's a 10,000 ants on the garage door or whatever like that I just video
that stuff and then in my phone I slowly get this like backlog of 500 things and then
if I don't even fresh and relevant to post that day I just swipe through my phone I grab one of
those 10 second clips I throw something on it that has to do with you know what's going on
and like I said my brand is me and I just happen to work on a lot of things and go on
adventures with these things I work on so I just take that thing and I put some you know
whether it's just text and music on it at minimum I just do that and then
there's another video and next thing you know you look down at your channel and I've got
1900 videos on my channel because I posted every single day for the last
over three years there was a point where I was posting I had a really
relaxed job so I had like mentally I wasn't expended at all and I had like an hour lunch
break so I would post a video in the morning before work I would post another short on lunch
and then I would post a third short in the evening because generally they only take
me a few minutes each to make and so there was a time where I was posting three shorts a day for
like a year and so that's 900 videos so it's like it's just showing up and whatever you want to
say eating an elephant one bite at a time or you know what I mean it's just to me to me
some of it is like you said if you have a you have a task that day that's like very
cruise control like to me like filler work is cruise control like I can just I can listen to
and absorb and think about and like my brain can just do whatever and I'm just sanding filler
all day long but like metal shaping building a panel you know until you're getting to
welding and finishing out the well my brain doesn't like I there's two modes like I can either listen
to a documentary or some podcast or something like that in my headphones or and or I'm listening
to music and I'm in I'm in like listening to music is working on sheet metal and I can't focus in
like words coming out of it's just like background noise usually because I have to focus so much
just there's levels of like between between being like ultra concentrated making sure
that I'm matching the other side building part or whatever shrinking in the right place or
or just shrinking versus or a form versus shape in a panel making sure that you don't just
need to bend it versus putting some extra shape in under stretching so it really takes a lot of
mental capacity for me I'm sure some guys can cruise that stuff a little faster but
ever since I've gotten heavily into the sheet metal shaping it's I can't consume things like I
used to if that makes sense yeah it's more of like turning something on that I can focus
that I can get my brain in the right spot what is the choice sheet metal forming music
honestly it's all over the place I have a Chris Stapleton mix that I like listening to
but sometimes that's like a little too slow for me so I like
Sinatra and like 40s jazz stuff sometimes that's like my like 40s Junction on XM is pretty awesome
but I also like metal music so there's also like most days I'm just listening to metal music that's
I say jazzy but it's like like groovy metal music I don't know not everybody's cup of tea
and I'm sure the neighbors here don't appreciate a lot of it but sometimes it gets like I just
got to crank music and hammer some parts out groovy metal while you're grooving metal
I do think it's really funny that you said Stapleton's too slow so you listen to Frank Sinatra
yeah there's something about I mean for me I correlate this 40s 40s Junction and this jazz
music really closely with some of the metal music as far as how the music's put together and
the rhythm of some of this stuff like I'm not saying all the metal music I listen to is like
that but some of it's very melodic and like deftones is like you put deftones on really loud and
that's my jam like there's a more melody to a lot of it and it's like your it's like a whole vibe
I don't know everybody's cup of tea you know I think music and cars have always gone together for me
you know because that's you get your first loud stereo and I mean usually it's in a car and it's
usually when you get to really hone in on your music tastes for me anyway yeah I um
like I'll I do like Sinatra and but when I listen to like my Pandora Frank Sinatra radio
station the next thing you know like if I'm in between tasks so like say I weld some
up I'm taking off the table and put it away on the way back to my welding table to start the
next part I'll be dancing like it's white Christmas or something you know or I'm Fred Astaire yeah
yeah I'm sliding through the shop you know and then all the young guys are like what is going on
with him but uh that's because the only dancing they understand is twerking I think but uh
uh I don't do a lot of like angry metal in the shops uh because I find that when the smallest
thing starts going wrong it's like the vibe of the shop with like it just it just comes out of me
and then I'm like start like little problems start to feel like big problems you get this angst in
you you know because the the music's like bringing out an emotion sometimes you gotta switch the song
definitely you're dealing with a rusty bolt and you're listening to five finger death punch and
then you five finger death punch a cylinder head it's not a good place to be you know
yeah yeah it just depends on the day I mean sometimes I'll honestly there's days where
you can have like on Spotify you can check out like uh thunderstorms you can just like
crank a thunderstorm in your head and start and end play play on the power hammer for a while and
make some parts sometimes it's just you don't want to listen to anything I do a lot of like weird
oh I'm becoming that old man like I drive to work with no radio I just silenced you know what
I mean uh and uh like when I wake so I wake up at like five five thirty every morning and I general
like I won't look at my phone for the first half an hour of the day or anything like that because
I like my brain to just like wake up naturally and go through whatever thoughts I need to finish
up so that way I don't have stuff like walk you so I don't know sometimes I find that the
silence is good because if there's something that's been in the back of my mind I'm trying to
work on whether it's you know how I'm going to lay out an overlay panel on a control arm or a shock
tab design or changing something structurally like if I have that quiet time sometimes um it's
like the thoughts just kind of work through themselves for me for me that's like having this
like same music or like my favorite album on or something or a favorite album on
that's does the same thing for me so it's like this is really familiar and it lets my
brain kind of do like let loose and the silence brings more out for me
yeah the uh the young kids I work with tell me I'm psycho when I'll have no music or anything
like that they're like how do you drive in the car in the quiet I don't know
I just I like to let the mind wander how do you do it well sometimes I know a lot of guys
whereas they won't radio on at all whatever they just want to listen to the motor I've had a
lot of times I just didn't have one heard that from a lot of people yeah that's true too
sometimes a v8 usually that was the first thing I said sometimes a v8 rumble is
almost like a meditative state just droning
yeah there's no melody though there is no melody
yeah and then uh like if the shop gets to be well I got sometimes the girl the guys I work with
I tell them I'm asking if they're playing like some teenage girl playlist and stuff like that
if they start playing too much stuff like that I'll tell them I need to sage the shop
and then I'll put on like this is Sturgill Simpson radio so it's just quality music
played with instruments and sung by humans without autotune you know what I mean it's just like
just in case you forgot this is what talent sounds like this is what feeling is like
you know it's not a k-pop world all the time
it's only polka polka is really good like some good polkas that's usually mine
it's like sunday morning like I when I left yeah we were listening to polko
grab your balls let's go good stuff and the radio
yeah like yeah exactly they had they play that every sunday on the radio here I uh we used to do
if we had to work sundays uh when I lived up north we would put on because yeah the radio
station had polka sunday morning we cranked that up in the shop because it's like you can't
you can't help but smile and be jolly when the accordions are blasting
it makes you want to have a beer at nine o'clock in the morning to be honest it's like
you're ready for a a tap beer I don't know why it's just a vibe I get maybe just the polka
polka things I was at as a kid yeah I can see that well here is a kid I guess but yeah I don't
here is a kid um I think we might need to talk to your parents about that
yeah I don't think I don't think I really had I was pretty much 18 or anything I think when I
actually started drinking I don't know I had I had other things to spend my money on
my cars were eating up a hundred percent of my finances yeah mm-hmm there's always something
to save your money for usually at first it was amplifiers and speakers
when I had the biggest sounding so you know when I went up to uh CJ race cars to shoot a video
for my friend's channel and then do a shop tour for mine I had my son there as uh my friend
had truck problems so I was like I don't have a camera guy and I can't be the camera guy
so I grabbed my 13 year old son and he uh was the camera man he's walking around the DSLR
video and taking it really serious but uh when we finished up and we were BSing with uh Cameron
Johnson there at CJ race cars he was uh talking to my kid and I don't remember what happened so
we're I think we're talking about how my wife and I met when we were my kids age and then uh
he was asked it said to him like oh no pressure huh and then he's like you know if you just
get into cars you won't ever have any money for girls so it'll be a lot simpler life
he's not wrong yeah while we're standing she's not good we're standing between a full tube chassis
14 1600 horsepower 69 Camaro and then next to us was Cletus McFarlane's uh I think it's three
3500 horsepower El Camino build and then there was a supercharged big black release
everything is everything is tube chassis titanium suspension everything that they could have titanium
and carbon fiber for weight they did um they have a full carbon 69 Camaro there if they're building
and I think they're putting a Lamborghini motor in it they call it the Lamborghini
but Jesus they it's just like
pretty inspiring and when I was in there we're talking to him and you know he's just a guy so
we're just talking he was just like you and I talking right you know what I mean he's just
everybody's just kind of a dude and they just like cars and they're just trying to have this
you know good of a day as they can working on these things and it was pretty inspiring especially
like talking to him behind the scenes about like the youtube channels and like where he grew and
you know and people like cletus helping him out and you know what I mean like
what do they say uh rising tide raises all ships like we all got it there's enough
people in in the beanbag chair eating Cheetos watching stuff for all of us to succeed on this
so like wish it I mean everybody just that wants to do it should help each other out and uh
yeah get into tube chassis cars and race cars and you'll never have a dollar to do anything
bad with no double that's some spendy stuff man that's crazy yeah I can't even find
working on something like that every panel on that El Camino build that like on the floor
everything that doesn't need to be metal for like a scatter shield or something all the
sheet metals titanium so like titanium firewall titanium tunnel I think wow so we have easy and
then every other floor panel is carbon fiber sheet and it has cup holders
3500 horsepower drag and drive car cup holders
oh someday right I don't even know if that's a goal that I would want to obtain but that's
it's not my thing just to take the car that far
like I just you look at I can appreciate it that was always with me in any
part of these automobile aftermarket automobile if it's done well I can appreciate it doesn't
really matter what it is I don't really hate on any specific genre of people building anything
that a guy that wants to put a wide body on 300 zx like and have it all welded in and like
seamless not like a bolt-on kit because he doesn't can't find any kit for his 300 that he likes
so he wants to like build it and build it right in you know and uh that's like really out of the
wheelhouse of what everything looks like around in here but that's definitely what like that's
that's what I want to be doing is customizing cars I don't really care what it is if you got
something that you want customized and I can do it that's the route I want to be going
the road I want to be going down I'm not really picky about what it is I mean to a certain
extent but what's that it's all just sheet metal really so it's Japanese yeah for sure it's just a
matter of some straight to work with you know if it's aluminum so right now it's a little more
out of my wheelhouse but it's definitely something that I'm going to be working on it's looking
moving forward anyway but just a matter of application if there's a car that I need to
learn aluminum on I'm going to do that very very fast you know it's it's uh that's the learning curve
that I've been riding as it's a pretty much it's got the application based for me to be like 100%
I gotta learn this and learn it now yeah I have um Florida has fortunately given me a lot of
aluminum exposure I don't do like a lot of aluminum sheet forming but I've just spent
so much time with aluminum at this point that I like have a feel for what it wants to do and what
it doesn't want to do and how it's going to act and so like when I'm talking about you know building
a tube chassis car I've thought about doing like a 30s forward style you know because most of the
panels have just like a you know a pretty simple shape not every panel but a lot of it like
the hood you know it's just a nice curve obviously things crown up and things like that but I thought
about almost doing like an aluminum body you know 30s style hot rod because there's just wouldn't be much
do it and it'd be cool but then I get worried about I even thought about doing like a aluminum
chassis uh like a uh belly tanker but I'm worried about if you ever hit anything
well that's I want to say that that's a lot of it for me I mean it even worked on a
factory five cobra kick car and I'm like you get hit from the side there is nothing but
featherglass here it's kind of crazy actually like the you it's a good thing to have seat belts
in them because there's you're attached to the frame and everything around you is pretty much
cosmetic yeah that's where live live live because uh then hopefully the people can hear you so they
don't hate you gives them another sense sensory way to find you it's yeah yeah that's those cars
are pretty crazy small we were met after a couple weeks well there was a there's a um we went past
the building excuse me we went past the building and there were I bet there were four cobras in
this front window of this uh this place I mean Monaco was it's a not very big at all and but
there's a lot of people that come up for it there's a lot of Illinois plates up there um in the
summertime but yeah we go past this building and there is it's full of cobras I'm like that's
really strange maybe it was just some rich guys you know play palace on the lake um but then
yesterday had a customer stop and he was saying that it was uh it was a actual brand I don't
know if it's a guy that sells these particular or super performance cars or if it's some
sort of dealership or something but apparently it's it that's a thing up there like I had no
idea that there is there's cobras being sold in Monaco, Wisconsin so we used to drive through
there all the time I'm more I'm kind of picturing a place on the left side of the highway as you're
going north and I think it's right before you hit like the the main part of Monaco
kind of a hilly area is that where that's at this place was like right in Monaco right
right in town right almost I think it was on the lake but it was facing the road like
big glass front with cobras it was like wow that's pretty crazy I've never seen that one before
that's pretty cool there's a lot of money up there yeah me either I know super performance makes
GT 40s too they make aftermarket GT 40s and I've boy if I was a if I had a couple
couple hundred thousand dollars and I was a rich guy maybe buying one like those are
really really really nice there is a GT 40 body on marketplace for like 10 grand I think
so there's a teaser we might have seriously like what's something for me as a business
being this young like it would be cool to put have like it that to me that this this
Mustang that we're working on is going to be a big launching point but I also want like a shop car that
has like a vibe that is going to be bigger than bigger than even I could think of yeah why don't
you let everyone know where to find you online well so you can check out my Instagram
on your hello customs on Instagram we do have a Facebook but I don't really post too much on
there I can check out my face my personal Facebook Quintan's track I do have a YouTube channel that
I'm slowly getting acquainted to and getting videos made and put on there other than that
where we may find you Ethan you can find me everywhere at Tereshark TV YouTube's the
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About this episode
Exploring the world of project cars, this episode dives into the potential of transforming a wrecked Corvette into a custom build, discussing the challenges and creative possibilities. The hosts debate the merits of re-bodying cars, including using kit car bodies and carbon fiber materials. They share personal experiences with building drift cars and the intricacies of metal shaping, while also reflecting on the balance of creativity and practicality in automotive projects. The conversation touches on the influence of music in the shop and the importance of community in the automotive world.