Guy Nicholls: What It Really Takes to Survive in Business Today | EP54
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diesel exhaust
Diesel exhaust is what comes out of a diesel engine’s tailpipe. The speaker is saying newer diesel setups can produce cleaner-looking exhaust than older ones.
Term
net zero
“Net zero” means trying to make a country or company’s pollution balance out—so the amount added to the atmosphere is offset by actions that remove or prevent emissions. The speaker is saying these rules can make things more expensive for businesses.
Company
Mercedes
Mercedes is a well-known car brand/company. In this discussion it’s brought up because the speaker is talking about job losses in the auto industry.
Company
Volkswagen group
Volkswagen Group is a big company that makes lots of different car brands. Here it’s mentioned as part of the wider story about companies cutting jobs.
Term
mortgage
A mortgage is a loan for buying a house. You pay it back over time, and the house is usually used as security for the loan.
Term
foundries
A foundry is a place that makes metal parts by melting metal and pouring it into molds. It’s the kind of factory where heavy metal manufacturing happens.
Term
asphalt
Asphalt is the common black material used to make road surfaces. It’s basically stone mixed with a sticky binder, then spread and pressed down so cars can drive on it.
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tarmac
“Tarmac” is just a nickname for the asphalt/blacktop used on roads. Here it’s being used to talk about how good the road surface is.
Term
potholes
Potholes are holes or dips in the road. Water can get in, damage the pavement, and then tires and weight make the damage grow.
Term
six-wheel misodies
They’re talking about a vehicle with six wheels. More wheels can help the vehicle grip better and carry weight more easily, especially on rough roads or special-purpose setups.
Term
contra flow
Contra flow is when roadworks force cars to drive the “wrong way” for a lane or section. It’s done temporarily so traffic can still move while the road is being managed or repaired.
Term
dual carriageway
A dual carriageway is a road split into two sides—one for each direction—usually separated by a barrier in the middle. That separation helps make head-on crashes less likely.
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rubber neck
They mean drivers slow down to look at something on the side of the road. That kind of staring can cause traffic to back up and be less safe.
Term
hard shoulder
The hard shoulder is the paved emergency lane on the side of a highway. If something goes wrong, cars can pull over there, but it’s not for normal driving.
Term
no joints last longer
They’re talking about road seams where pavement sections meet. Roads with fewer seams can sometimes last longer because there are fewer weak spots.
Term
ambulance helicopter
They’re talking about a helicopter used by emergency medical teams. It’s used to get injured people to care faster than a regular ambulance could.
Car
BMW Series Bmw
The BMW 7 Series is a large luxury car. It’s made to be comfortable and smooth, especially for longer drives. People mention it because it’s one of BMW’s top, high-end models.
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gridlocked
“Gridlocked” means traffic is completely stuck and not really moving. Usually it’s because the road ahead is blocked and cars can’t get through.
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diesel vehicles
Diesel cars use a different kind of engine than gasoline cars. They’re common in Europe and often come up in conversations about emissions and regulations.
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electric vehicles
Electric vehicles are cars that run on batteries instead of gasoline or diesel. The hosts are talking about how car companies are being pushed to sell more of them.
Company
Ford
Ford is brought up as another large car brand that struggled financially during the move to electric vehicles.
Company
BMW group
They’re talking about BMW as a company that handled the electric-car transition differently than some rivals.
Car
BMW i3
The BMW i3 is an electric car made for everyday driving, especially in cities. Instead of using gasoline, it runs on electricity from a battery. People bring it up because it’s an EV you can buy and live with day to day.
Car
Ford Anglia
The Ford Anglia is an older, classic small car. It’s the kind of vehicle people remember because it was common in earlier decades. In the podcast, it’s likely being mentioned for a personal or regional story.
Term
MOT
In the UK, MOT is a yearly safety/emissions check for your car. If it doesn’t pass, you can’t legally drive it on the road.
Concept
roadworthiness / vehicle safety inspection
They’re talking about regular checks that make sure cars are safe to drive. It’s meant to prevent dangerous issues from being missed.
Concept
electric vehicle battery disposal / recycling limits
They’re talking about what happens to EV batteries when the car is no longer usable. If the batteries can’t be recycled easily, the options can be limited, which creates a new environmental problem.
Concept
written off (total loss) after relatively minor damage
“Written off” is when a car is considered too expensive to fix, so it’s treated like a total loss. The point here is that EV repairs can be costly enough that even minor damage can trigger that decision.
Term
fuel pump fuse (fuse)
A fuse is a small safety switch in the car’s electrical system that “blows” if there’s a problem. The discussion is basically about how a simple electrical fault can lead to expensive repair decisions.
Car
Dodge Ram
A Dodge Ram is a big pickup truck. The hosts are talking about how a large, lifted truck can feel too big for the roads they drive on.
Car
Ford Range-eraptor
The Ford Ranger Raptor is a rugged pickup meant for rough roads and off-roading. They’re saying it’s about the right size for their local roads.
Term
road tax
Road tax is money the government charges for using and maintaining roads. The hosts are debating how much of the driving cost comes from these road-related fees.
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fuel tax
Fuel tax is extra tax built into the price of gas or diesel. If you drive more, you typically pay more because you buy more fuel.
Concept
infrastructure
Here, infrastructure means the basic systems that keep transportation working—like roads and bridges. They’re saying the roads are bad because the whole system needs work, not just because of accidents.
Brand
JCB
JCB is a company that makes big construction machines, like excavators and backhoes. Here, they’re talking about the JCB factory and the people running the business.
Concept
4x4 (four-wheel drive)
“4x4” means the car can send power to all four wheels. It helps the car grip better on rough or slippery roads, but it can be more complicated to build and fix.
Term
leak
“They’d leak” means some fluid was escaping from the car. That can be a sign of a seal or connection that wasn’t holding up yet.
Concept
early production / "came to the market just a bit too early"
They’re saying the car was released before it was fully sorted out. Early cars can have problems that get improved after the first production run.
Term
sticker kits
A “sticker kit” is a set of decals or labels. The idea here is they already had the visual updates ready to apply.
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backhoe
A backhoe is a heavy construction machine used for digging and moving dirt. It’s the kind of equipment you’d see on job sites.
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fleet
A “fleet” just means a company’s whole group of vehicles or machines. The speaker is talking about how big other companies’ groups were.
Concept
tariffs
Tariffs are extra taxes on things brought in from other countries. They can change prices and make it more or less attractive to buy imported products.
Brand
Jaguar Land Rover
Jaguar Land Rover is the automaker that makes Jaguar and Land Rover cars. They’re mentioned because they chose to build a new factory in Slovakia rather than in the UK.
Term
shed
They mean they keep the vehicle in a storage building when it’s not being driven. Long storage can cause issues like a weak battery.
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flatbed
A flatbed is a tow truck/trailer that carries a car on a flat platform. It’s used when the car can’t just be driven normally.
Car
Ford Ranger
They’re probably talking about the Ford Ranger pickup truck. They’re saying they’ve owned one before and now have another.
Term
hand stitch
Hand stitch refers to upholstery and interior trim being sewn manually rather than fully automated. In luxury manufacturing, this is used to emphasize craftsmanship and quality control, and the host highlights it as part of the factory experience.
Brand
Rolls-Royce
Rolls-Royce is a luxury car brand famous for very high-end, smooth cars. Here, they’re talking about where those cars are made and how the company is organized.
Term
V12
A V12 is an engine with 12 cylinders arranged in two groups. It’s often used in luxury cars because it can run very smoothly.
Term
W16
A W16 is a very unusual, very high-cylinder-count engine layout. It’s the kind of engine you’d expect in the most extreme, top-tier performance cars.
Brand
Bugatti
Bugatti makes some of the most extreme cars in the world. In this segment, they’re using Bugatti as the comparison point for a very advanced engine.
Company
Eclipse Diagnostics
Eclipse Diagnostics is a company that makes a computer tool for diagnosing problems in vehicles. It can read error codes from many different brands and help you figure out what to fix.
Term
OEM fault code
A fault code is like a “check engine” message stored by the car. OEM fault codes are the official error codes from the car maker, and a diagnostic tool reads them to tell you what’s wrong.
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ECU programming
An ECU is the car’s main computer for controlling things like engine and emissions. ECU programming means updating that computer’s software so it works properly after certain repairs.
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Calibrations
Calibrations are the car computer’s “settings” for how it should run. After repairs, those settings may need to be updated so everything works correctly.
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DPF regions
A DPF is a filter that traps soot in diesel engines. “DPF regions” are parts of the car computer’s settings that control how the filter cleans itself.
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wiring diagrams
Wiring diagrams are like maps of the car’s electrical connections. They help you trace which wires go to which parts when something isn’t working.
Term
diesel oil
They’re talking about diesel fuel—the kind of fuel used in many trucks. If the price of diesel goes up, it costs the trucking company a lot more to run every week.
Concept
haulage company
A haulage company is basically a trucking business that moves goods. If diesel gets more expensive, they feel it immediately because they use a lot of fuel.
Term
solar panels
Solar panels turn sunlight into electricity. People argue about putting them on farmland because it can compete with growing food.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a powerful BMW sedan made for performance. It’s designed to be quick and handle well, not just comfortable. People talk about it because it feels very fast and sporty to drive.
Car
Bmw Ix
The BMW iX is an electric SUV. It’s designed to carry more people and gear than smaller electric cars. It runs on a battery instead of gasoline.
Term
real range
Real range is how far an electric car can actually go in everyday driving. It’s usually less than the best-case numbers you see in ads.
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home charging
Home charging is charging your electric car at home, usually overnight. The hosts are saying it’s the simplest option and can be cheaper than using public chargers.
Car
Bentley Bentayga
The Bentley Bentayga is a luxury SUV from Bentley. Here it’s mentioned as a V8, four-wheel-drive SUV that gets compared to an electric car for the cost and experience of travel.
Car
Rolls-Royce Spectre
The Rolls-Royce Spectre is Rolls-Royce’s electric car. This part talks about how charging it—especially at home versus public fast chargers—changes the cost and hassle of longer trips.
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petrol vehicle
A petrol vehicle runs on gasoline. The hosts are comparing the experience of owning and traveling in a gasoline car versus an electric car.
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fast charging
Fast charging refers to using high-power public charging stations to add a lot of battery energy in a short time. The segment contrasts fast charging costs (and availability) with cheaper, more convenient home charging for EV ownership.
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electric charging points
Electric charging points are places you plug an EV into to charge it. If you can’t charge easily, owning an electric car is harder.
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company car tax
Company car tax is the tax you pay when your employer provides a car. If the tax rules favor electric cars, more people will pick them because it’s cheaper for them.
Term
congestion charge
A congestion charge is a toll you pay to drive in the busiest parts of a city. The idea is to cut down traffic by making driving there cost more.
Concept
EVs
“EVs” are electric cars that run on electricity from a battery. The discussion suggests that Europe’s car makers are changing course on EV plans or strategy.
Term
range eccentric
This sounds like a garbled reference to how far an electric car can go on a charge. The host then talks about the car’s driving range and what happens when that range runs out.
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electric vehicle range
Electric vehicle range means how far a car can drive on a full battery charge. The host is talking about how many miles you can get before you have to recharge.
Concept
range-extended electric vehicle (generator running to extend range)
This is an electric car that can keep going longer because it has a small engine that makes electricity while you drive. The battery still powers the wheels, but the engine helps extend how far you can travel.
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hybrid
A hybrid is a car that uses both electricity and a regular engine. The host is saying hybrids can drive some distance on electricity, but then the engine helps for longer trips.
Term
tax ban
The host is talking about government rules that change taxes depending on what kind of car you buy and how far it can go on electricity. The point is that policy can push manufacturers toward certain designs.
Concept
fallback to petrol or diesel power
This means using the gas or diesel engine when the electric part can’t cover the whole trip. The host is saying that makes these cars easier to live with for longer drives.
Term
electric cars
Electric cars run mainly on electricity stored in a battery. The host is talking about how they’re being used and why they’ve been controversial or costly.
Term
G and T's
“G and T’s” means gin and tonics (a mixed drink). Here it’s just describing that the person had been drinking, not anything about cars.
Concept
lottery commission
A lottery commission is the official group that regulates raffles and lotteries. They had to get approval and follow the rules before they could run it.
Car
Audi A3
The Audi A3 is a smaller car that’s meant for everyday driving. In the version mentioned, it uses a diesel engine and is set up as a sportier trim. People talk about it because it’s a practical size with a more “premium” feel.
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So things are really tough for everybody at the moment in piece or tough for you know for working people
They're tough and I say that and I don't mean a derogatory fashion talk about people who draw a wage go home
You know the rank and file. I think he used to be called a people who made this country great
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To his two bands the people in the bottom of the land let's call them that and I'm not trying to be
There's people who generally aren't aren't important. I have mental health not fucking two million people in this country got mental
Well, there's an absolute bullshit. That's the new bad bag and then you've got people atop lad who don't pay tax
Yeah, they're too clever. They're overseas. Yeah, that's the bit in the middle people like us. Yeah farmers
People on the other guy you interviewed Paul Fox. Yeah, you know and and I'm shopkeepers
Yeah, I don't spend all the tax. Yeah, because they're not big enough to move abroad. Yeah, or to have money off shore
Yeah, I don't have money. I'm sure we put tax in the UK. It's simple as that. Oh, they got family here. Yeah, just quickly
Yeah, but I loved it didn't they they did come out kiss our and did come out and so I say yeah
If you don't like it leave, yeah, the door is open. Yeah, I saw again this week. What's a fucking statement?
That was they go on the door is angry. I know chap
He came to see me
I'm from Lloyd's private banking here. I've come to see is
spoke to our CFO upstairs and
Sorry Barclays and Barclays business bank. You were trying to do some with yeah
So when you come together because I want you're gonna get two months ago
I was told it's not interesting all this and he's a lovely old boy about my age and
I said hey, you don't he's well we this was
September last year. So we have lost over half our private banking customers. What that means private bank is just they invest your money for you
That's a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a joke. Yeah, it's not good money creates money. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, I know somebody's on the door. Yeah, well, fortunately if we've got no money, we're not gonna be making any money anymore Britain
Are we so no, we're selling everything off as well. I mean
Well, I'm sold off. You know this this not zero thing is the biggest loaner bollocks
It will go down as the biggest. Yeah loaner bollocks in history
Yeah, yeah, well especially for the UK because it makes we don't even make the slightest dent on global emissions
And you're what this infinite amounts of oil infinite some out exactly. Yeah, and the modern needs are so fucking clean
Yeah, yeah, you could touch the aesthetic. Yeah, it's the inside of a diesel exhaust and it's clean. Honestly. Yeah
but even with what's known watch a lot of YouTube nowadays because the
BBC is so we're left-wing. Yeah, clearly that way. Yeah, and the ITV is not that far behind
Mm-hmm, and they were saying that the EU is split there was a headline, you know, you know
The grab picture that makes you watch it
And now the EU hungry in the EU
But they still have no the gas from Russia. So now they're heating bills
They cost the manufacturers dropped out of sky compared to Western Europe
And all we've done with all this net zero is price price. It's killed industry in this country. Yeah
I'm a very friendly with a chap who's a it was a senior design director at Jaguar Land Rover
He now works for an Indian company that makes five million motorcycles a year
They make all BMW car bikes under 450 cc and he was saying they got a big design studio
They bought in Bologna. He seemed to private Indian family very good, but nice people very, you know, pro pro business
And he was saying they were just inundated every single day with senior designers and senior people have
Volkswagen group
Mercedes because they're losing their jobs hand over fist all we've done is keep it on a plate to China. Yep
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, go make a buck and the other thing is bullshit as well
This David will about as the world energies of world price oils of world price
Gas is a localized price. It's all about the cost of moving it. Yeah
Yeah, that's a third as a third of our pricing America. Yeah, to what he's here and we've got the North Sea there as well
We're having reasons. Yeah, but then welfare and what it's like
Oh, you can't ride there. You can't me put me pick my fag up money for his desk
Yeah, well, no, I'm not doing that and I'm paying you three times the price for the same cigarette
You know, it's not funny. Yeah fucking see and it's in your back garden. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, just making it impossible to own money. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much
Well, that was gonna be one of our one of our questions for today to be honest with you
So that was how, you know, how does anybody now build a business?
Entrepreneurial ship in the UK is dead dead killed it
You know, the I went to reform
Rally week on Monday, it's a sub-show gun
There's big new building a part back 15 years. They're lovely venue 900 people in there
They had 300 people more turn up
They had to do another one the 300 people in the building next door to I'll tell you what they taught so much fucking sense
It's ridiculous
Nigel Farage was there
Robert generic the bloke you and he said I know I'm gonna accused of jumping from the conservatives to
Revolta looks like I win of jump cuz I'm fed up with a bullshit of the conservative
I they drove this country into the ground Boris did let free enough when you fucking immigrants in while he was in power
Yeah, that didn't that case quick quiet quiet and you know what the laborer just added to her made it ten times worse
Yeah, yeah, I think we need a major change. Yeah, big time big sake up
It's a lefties getting into his time or whatever. He's I am definitely packing up moving abroad. Yeah, because there's lawless in this country
Yeah, it is. Yeah, you would there was a one of our customers again. They had a van broken into all their stuff nicked
You know you go to the police. There's nothing they're gonna do about it
He's out like at the doors open the words actually that but I was published this week with a 92% of burglaries go on
Unresolved. Yeah, I got robbed on my home in last Saturday of November 6 30 on a Saturday tea time while we're in the fucking house
Yeah
The police please it calls that roundabout. Yeah, it's four minutes from where I live. Yeah, I took 45 minutes for this W
Overweight WVC designer. Yeah, do you know pathetic?
Yeah, sometimes they don't even send a car round now for a burglary or a car theft
Do you know a friend of mine? Well, what my friend my issues pretty much cuts my hand. She said on there and not nice nice
Private state near the speed I try over there her daughter lives there and their neighbor
Prone the police is somebody trying to get over my friends nothing to do with us as a civil matter. Yeah, brilliant. Yeah, yeah
I know this is which we've just had
Mark McCann on the podcast which it does these like documentary style YouTube videos and then
It followed basically a tracking company that we're going to find a rain driver that be installed them back an independent
Mark McCann. Yeah, yeah
Yeah
He did this
Recovery on this on this rain driver. It's found in the garage in Birmingham somewhere got a tracker on it from the police
They come to the they didn't want to come and fight because it was out of this the stolen. Yeah, right? Yeah
They weren't bothered about it's not our
Jurisdiction. Yeah, sort of thing. So you'd have to call them necessary, please. Yeah, let's just share
Please don't want to do it because the car was in now in Birmingham. And you know, I've got nothing against the police
Yeah, no, I'm very pro just unrefunded
Underfunded understaffed understaffed. I mean, I've been shown up to be with our military capability
Yeah, we always said I came it feels like just a normal middle-class working-class upper-class family in the UK now
They're now like sent to right right. Yeah, if you're normal, you're right
It's it's that's how but how politics has gone out
But then what's happened is the the Tories the Tory parties come left and they're sort of like now
It's it's same same, you know, there's six or two threes between Labour and Tory now
There's no difference. Yeah, other European companies apparently are countries have cut their the tax on fuel to help
Help people in Europe. We know we can do that
We're gonna help the poorest households, which means they will give all the people on benefits. Yeah
Some money to pay the bills to heating. Yeah, not anybody goes to work. No, no
Center first yesterday first yesterday was on day four. Yeah, but if it's all in at 4% yeah, brilliant
Give us 4% we go skiing. Yeah, meanwhile whilst we we have no money to spend it
I think I yeah, I agree with you. I think the next election for the next
2030 years is gonna be the sort of a make-or-break
He's finished. Yeah, I was that's what I was gonna say to you. Sorry. I forget I'm old every night now watch
Jake of Reese Morgue. He does a 10 minute 9 10 minute video every night. Yeah. Yeah, he's about as far right as you can get
Fuck me does that man talk some sense even Jake watches them every night. Yeah, my missus. Don't turn down. I'm cool
Let's say went a lot finished. Yeah, oh, what's that? Yeah, just talk so much sense. Yeah
Not not many of those out there anymore. But anyway, we won't we won't go too far into
Yeah, the whole thing yeah, because there must be like an advert for the company order because I did a corporate video
I'm and mark and if you've met him. Yes. Oh, just both of them on the phone
He didn't want to ask me to do one about three months ago. And he's also interested in questions
No, you fucking one you ask big question. I'll answer it. Yeah, like it. Yeah
So I didn't want I don't listen if we can not just to be another no
We tried that when the podcast was first yeah, when we first launched the podcast
it was to really like promote and make people aware about our products and pretty much the
Feedback we thought was all right enough about how good you are. Yeah enough of that
Just needs to be about reality. Yeah, of course it does. Yeah, ask away the one. Yeah, straight into it
And yeah, give us for people who don't know you think I who anybody's catching up on on this podcast
Give us an intro to who you are and what you do and who true seven are
Just a nobody really from Ipswich. I work with my father
Who's hard-tired smile, I see unfortunately was
And just worked all my life work with him was he died unfortunately 29 years ago the 17th of this month 17th of April
97
My life changed in dramatically
Never go over I've got used to her
We just you know brought up to work and be right and be honorable pay your way
I see I'm not so I'm trying to sit and be a hero
That's exactly how it's bought to be and just work
We sold a rental business ten and a half years ago and start again in this show ten and a half years ago
Yeah, and what wow what you feel by the way, we love coming here cuz why what a place?
I really appreciate that but the whole thing for us and you know
You know people can have draw their own conclusions. Yeah, we have to make a profit
That's all about money. It's about being the best of what we do. Yeah, I've said to Jake was so new you've you've interviewed
Don't have yards elsewhere
I did that before and I hate it and one yard and keep an eye on I keep us the
Level of service the standards that the highest you can possibly get them
You can't do it in in five ten yards can't be everywhere
I know you interviewed Paul Paul Fox before hats off to him
You know he's bought numerous companies and various parts of the country
Hey, does that man keep an eye on that?
I had soft him for years. Yeah, but it wouldn't suit me personally now employing good people
I suppose to to run it and manage it
Well, good luck with that. Yeah, good. We're very very lucky
I always quote something off as it meet the parents of circular trust and
Pinched off that years ago and you know, I guess we've got
50% 60% of our people in the circle of trust and then start a dartboard and weakens very quickly. Hmm
and you know
Right, I was gonna say right from but that'd be a direct weaponer
But if you look at the scale of people who drive trucks and machines some of those rates standing some ravaged some on the transient
They hear until they get off
50-pound arm or go up somebody else however, however good a vehicle you get them
However, good a thing, but you're not the real good people. They appreciate how they get treated. Yeah. Yeah
And I always say to the people I said, I'll be your best friend on your worst day
Yeah, when you're in hospital or you're in a pickle, you know, I had people who I've paid them for money
18 months two years I've been treated for cancer
Other people I wouldn't go wouldn't give my fag packet. Yeah. Yeah, because they don't deserve it
No, we have we own we own trust
We own loyalty in this in this life in my opinion and the people who look after us
I look after them a wheel. Sorry. I we look after me as a business. Yeah, come here work hard and get rewarded
Yeah, look after. Yeah, that's what you want to you want to nick off us or wherever
You need to be here for five minutes where you want to show off go and work somebody else
Yeah, give some people some more more context about you
I I have to bring I don't if you remember our phone call a few weeks ago, which was pretty much I
Told mark, you know, you were saying you told mark if you're asking me some questions
ask me some questions, but
You said to me if you want to remove something you remove it
But I pretty much don't give a shit what anybody thinks I'll say
Do you know of years and years ago or loads of a young age?
Why try and pretend to be some you're not people I love you for they are or they don't like you for you are
Well, I don't like it when people put facade on there's no need for that bullshit
And I'm not in that one. No, I'm a bit too blunt and a bit too
I swear a lot of trooper and I was blunt as a house pretense and and my wife who we've been together now for 47 years
She said me off the first week. She's like mama people. I'm the really like you and think you're a
And then every now again, we have a little tip. I said, that's shame. You didn't think I was my mind all those years ago
But um, you are what you are and I don't think you should try and pretend to be other than anything other than you are
Yeah, oh, no, I did put a show to make some new you guys will come
Yeah, that's just that is really odd, you know, I come to work every day. I'll never will stop
It's quite interesting actually because before the late late I got voted
We've got a very clever CFR new tax planner for the future, which I won't count it too much
There's nothing illegal by the way, everything's totally legal and I interest on legal things and and and gave a large proportion of the business to
I must take him and his sister and then just before the
Last year's budget. He said, oh, I think you should love that quite dramatically because they're gonna change things this down the other
And he spoke about it quite a bit that week and the same week just by a constant jakers you've met chase not so personally contrived
He's got so I would say he'll say it. He's saying dad. Do you really want to come up in come here if you don't put
What is shit will look crap be able to part with
And so I go I'm on a Friday night. I said to me missus to yourself
He had trying to roam me out with that want me to retire. She said she's not fucking return
I don't want your own with me
So I'm stuck with where I'm not wanted and I don't want you go home. You know on it
Yeah, I'm not a bad smell, but no, I can't not
What would you stop working? You know, if you enjoy what you do, I don't get that
Yeah, well, you want a day off so I'm had lunch with a friend of mine. He's a big big farm
He's a little bit old me so well, I don't want to stop early so if I want to have I take a day off
Yeah, and and that's it. There's not much else. I want to be so I don't have too many days off
Yeah, are you of the ethos then that if you enjoy what you'll do, you'll never work a day in your life
I've never done a lot. Yeah, and just to add to that or carry out that I plenty of those things. What the fuck do we starve again for?
Yeah, I
Still come out next day. Yeah, and
Things are really tough for everybody at the moment in peace or tough for you know for working people the tough and I say that
No, no, I don't mean a derogatory fashion talk about people who draw a way to go home
You know the the rank and file I think it used to be called a people who made this country great is tough at everybody every level
Yeah
You know, you get somebody like Paul who runs a big business Paul Fox
Runs a lot of trucks when this is without the diesel height recently
We work for such a small margin for the amount of money. We've got invested. It's actually a joke
Yeah, yeah, we just have to we work live in hope and work in hope that the things will change
It'll be better for everybody. Yeah, because when it's better for business
And I'm a firm but this I'm a stick of shit. I work on common sense
I'm a firm believer of every you'll touch a pound that I've touched you'll touch a pound he's touched
That's how it works. We all live off each other
That's like that's like one of those things and then an old-fashioned Chinese restaurant called a lazy Susie
You know the right the right thing and it's like Kate you put a bean to make the cake you you put a bean
I take a bit off he takes a bit off. I say we we'll have off each other
But the moment the the cake is getting smaller and smaller and less and less tasty
We just got hope we about times when we have about partly run on the country because it's there to be done
We live in a great country. Yeah, that's been destroyed by idiots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and they are idiots and they're clueless
Yeah, you touched on the the education system just in that then but I'm probably the same belief as
As us then do you believe in school that we are taught the wrong things 100% well my wife I went to a private school
Not that I learned a great deal
I think there was a very sport problems cause only 130 kids there and I think
Look I'm back on my dad paper was to go there because I could have days off to be willing
Which I did when I was a kid. There's a truck auction on a jeep top my mum went mad. He'll learn more come with me
anyway, that was that
Very big on on sports rugby cricket and not on the sports one useless. I'm good a pocket billions
That's the only ball sport. I'm any good at
But it taught you values, but now my wife went to a state school the other side of town
And she said when I was there, you know, they were taught
I think it's a called home economics when you teach her to cook
Yeah, I think we do me outside school and then a lot of the guys she went to school with they went on to be roofers
Scaffold someone's still coming into work now my age
And I'll talk any of this stuff at school now. No, I didn't mean proper games apparently
Yeah, the grandstands go to a private school the other side of the state school and where my wife went
I'm not being too much about the guys who go to state school and the people the guys girls who go there far from it
It's the system
How can a private school be a state school 15 to a football? Yeah, could it even pay bloody football at school now?
Yeah, so they're not that you know
I know well, I did I did I did I did private school and state school
I was private school for the majority of my
School time as a kid and then I did the last couple of years at state school
Which you can imagine I'm so actually a bit of shock
and
Yeah private gives you
It does give you a few things that you may not get from a state school, but there are also negatives to it and
This but they're just as bad if I'm being honest with you. They are just as bad really. Yeah
We don't need to know that the the the root square and whatever it's it's life values
It's how the problem. Yeah, algebra. They had you know, I was just thinking the school wasn't interesting
I just used to stare at the classroom. I think I would probably say the same thing
I just kept thinking about looking the dirt outside wherever they were to see what the motorcycle straight would be like
Yeah, and I was just thinking come on what wasting I could be cleaned up machine deck and sell or hire out or whatever
Just waste my time here. What is algebra over algebra ever coming in my life has it? No politics
Yeah, I left a school not knowing what's tax. What do I cut this needs?
Yeah, I'm economics. I said, I think it's what he's called cooking at school. Yeah, he's pretty pretty well
It world economics. This is what it's going to cost you rent your rates your tags. Yeah
Teach people normal stuff as any use if you want to go on to higher education and there's a place for a highly educated people clearly
But yeah, I want this public school not one person at school ever went to university
You know, everybody goes to university. Yeah, there's another excuse to have three or four years of doing so long. Yeah, or they are
Not for all. Yes. No. Oh, no, absolutely. Um, but they definitely push
People into further education these education establishments push them into further education because if you don't if you don't go to uni
You're a loser. No, you have to know by law that how you have to stay in school. Is it two years? Yeah
A friend of mine he's become a friend. He's quite a bit younger. Maybe he's a businessman
The small lower business or decent size. That's why I say it's very derultory a smaller local business. Let's call it that
The employed about 30 people. He sold the business and he still will and Dylan just sat in the other and he phoned me up
Said could my daughter get an apprenticeship with you. She's not going to university. She's very bright and
It's he the sound of I haven't met it Wayne who I think you may are
Um, what the hell do you call in the managers would be employing people? What's he called?
I don't know. Hi char. No. No staff staff staff on boarding. Yes. Okay. He met and said Christ almighty
She's one of the brightest young girls of me. She's 17. She can't come here and work full-time until she's 18
So she's now got to go into further education
She doesn't want to she wants to come and learn common sense for the sake of money common sense. You hit it on the head
Oh, yeah, that's what we're sure
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah
Getting a getting a bit of a flavor for you. Uh while we've been sat here
What does success mean to you nowadays?
Because you you mentioned it. You've done very well. You sold a very successful business
You've done very well for yourself
Why you were like, why why do this and what does success mean to you now? And why why did you restart?
Do you know when you're younger or I'm speaking to myself when you're younger you want to buy a house
You want to get out done
Poxy mortgage and then you move up to buy another house you go about already get kids
And they get a little bit older and we move with the house. We live in there really was two
Two steps at once. It was too much. Yeah, but the bank row was cheap
I was really like a massive always, you know, I'm paid off in five years. They're dead. Fortunately. I'm not trying to be copy. Yeah
So you get to a stage in life or
This is my view of it. Okay, you get to a stage in life where your kids are growing up
They're letting you settle them down. So everything then is for your kids
Okay, you want them to you know, have a nice house and and have nice things and have a nice lifestyle
Um, you've got to work for it and you've got to keep working and I and I don't see why it's as it's almost framed upon to keep working
You know, I remember dad said, let you know that place. I went schooling
He worked in ransoms big factories used to be massive. It's a big manufacturing place at one time ransoms and rapiers
Made the walk and drag line and it was my concrete mixes things that went all over the world
Ramps was made steam engines then plows and bits and pieces
There was another company called cranes who who made massive valves for fluid transmission
Yeah, and went all over the world. There's thousands of people work that foundries and machine shops
And um, he's some none old boy went school none moment life
He said, you know what he's been looking forward to a time since the day he started work
He's knew what you'd be dead in fucking 12 months because that's just why you've got to keep your brain active
Yeah, you've got to keep going and why shouldn't you and you know, I'm very fortunate
Let's be clear about that for a little fat bloke species. We're not film stars or all bands
But we've earned a quid and we we live a reasonable lifestyle
Um, don't go how much now because the lack of law and order that's another thing
Um, but why wouldn't you keep working? I love what we do. I love this industry
I don't like some of the bullshit and then that's coming in this industry knows too much
The health and safety is getting a little bit over the top. Oh, yeah, yeah
You know, they're sort of about potholes. The biggest cost around a stretch of potholes is the traffic management
That's another
Industry we created out of nothing. Good luck. I wish I owned a trap. I wish I'd started 120 years ago
More money of that and we would have an 125 million quid's worth of vehicle and plant assets
It's the most expensive industry and not a lot actually gets done in this country. It's so expensive. Do you know what the other thing is?
Um, if you look we had a major part of our driveway and playing off a national court yesterday
right
the guy who's like
The largest probably probably a Nashville company around here a company called Tato's
We've dealt with them for 30 odd years. Good people. Good hard work. Maybe the two guys are at our grafters
and um
I said what what this order's been a bit shabby. It's done 10 years hard graft with
The business has changed so we've put trenches across that looks shabby. I don't like it. I'm a bit
OTT
He's what would you want me to do it in there? I said, well, look the trucks are getting bigger
There's more of them the machine's getting bigger. There's more trucks every day
I said, he said, well, what do you want me doing? I said, Wayne?
You're the expert in asphalt. What are you asking me for? He said, what do you want that french tarmac, don't you?
It's where they go. Yeah, what are you talking about french tarmac?
He said, well, if you ever send a pot on the house and on a motorway in france, never
He said, you drive from here to the oral bridge. You're going to drop in one there
There's potholes 18 inches across. Do you know what is that's this re-cycled asphalt? It's a load of bollocks
It takes a re-cycled box. It's just absolute crap. I said, I want the french tarmac
And that's what I was done all these blokes. Yeah all hard work and blokes
I was I wish you've been a yes to film that it was the choreography of it was unbelievable
How they all work one gets off him off a roller then he's on a rate just going around the edges
Then another bloke comes along with a whack of like it was I just stood there when I couldn't believe what I was saying
It was so well organized
But and they were all moaned about it because the last post is sticky when they're raking about it
He said that one you want to have all in that bastard. Yeah, why don't we do it like because we because do you know what the difference is?
That's four pounds of square meter more to do it properly. Yeah, and John when they had a road plane
A local county lovely road plane a great friend of a personal friend out on the business
Super I was lovely playing you must go and you should do one. He's a lovely bloke squeaky clean
professional proper business and I came in yesterday and I don't get to work until
Nine and want to hate and wake up about about taking a bit look on my iPad and on the youtube
And the road plane is going on quite a pace
What's that as for we had down there looks like a lot of old shit bloke said that's the softest as far as I've seen
That's what most roads are like around your name
He said that's proper as far as saying
This thing's just going through like a knife through but I'm gone. Yeah
Honestly, it's a shame. You didn't see it was unbelievable how these cars work
But they're all moaned about it. How sticky is that cause he's getting off the rakes and off the shovels? Yeah
Yeah, but unfortunately we do that. We look at everything. Yeah, I often think it's a bit like government
Why don't they my father said this 50 years ago? They should have a
Uh, a committee of proper business people, you know different sectors farming who pay the uk tax
So we're not talking about people who are trying to get away with anything but people who actually know the job
Despite the highways england have something like him
And you know and advise them but no they'll be advised by the
The big the big nationals who we all know and I'm not going to name here
Well, I won't time that wholesome all these people at eurovia because there's probably more for a resold asphalt
But it ticks a box. It's always four pound cheaper. So yeah, we'll go with that one. Yeah, not not the whole not the whole
Exactly that everything is short-termism. I'll give an example
I'm a bit of a weirdo when we had that building built
And one of the I knew both the companies are both extra space companies who who were who were the two particularly priced at
And he said well, I do want to finish this. Don't price it yet. I'm gonna tell you I want to done
I want four screws in every hinge. I want solid wood doors and in the toilets. I want medium grade
Italian or german
Sanitary where you'd have in a decent hotel
I don't want shit that with a time where the toilet seats can be falling off in three months time
And you know, let's do the test time is 10 years old not one doors falling off
And not one toilet seats falling off, but I know you can say I was a bit pathetic
But quality starts at the bottom and it works all the way through. Yeah 100%
Yeah, that's that one. So yeah, I don't I don't like doing things the same best because it costs more. Yeah, two at once
Yeah by cheap by twice. Yeah, that's not saying that. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah
So right what you say there we do a lot of um european road trips and the roads over here compared to
Europe
It's very good all the way back in the french roads. It's lovely. Love it. Lovely you get off the train back here
First thing you do we've used to go all over europe in the motel home following jake ram
When these were in the world championship mercrosse world championship
And we had this big big big six wheel misodies
German motel home built normally you put a little car on about but we're a typical bit over the top of me
What swap anyway?
And we're driving along through france
And where you where you go off cut the come off again on a calle my way of callee and about five or six miles
You turn right start heading towards reams. I think yeah, and my wife said to me
Have we stopped she's fallen asleep while driving snow
The motel home was really quiet. Yeah, but so were the roads. Yeah, and then
It's the same as the the the traffic management go back to there
And I'm one of the crown friends of mine who got the traffic management plays bollocks. Yeah
You know, we we put we could put concept three miles for some road bikes when I made your road
Yeah, over there's a thousand meters seven fifty five hundred then when you get to fifty
There's like a dummy holding a flag doing this and they dress them up and put beads on them
Yeah, hard hats on them. You go into a contra flow because most of the
after the french
Payals are going on a dual carriageway
Um contra everybody's 80 kilometers now nobody slows down. We do have a 50 and everybody just 30 rubber neck in
Yeah, and then you look the other side they're playing up the two lanes and the hard shoulder and the pay was doing all three
In one here. Yeah, no joints last longer. Yeah, of course
We're just part of any any any ash pearl place. It's gonna be a joint. Yeah
Just boss my best we waste so much money because we don't do it probably the first time
There was a an accident wasn't when we were in germany. Yeah, we were on the autumn. I can't remember anyway, but we were somewhere in germany
you've got a
Ambulance a helicopter coming in pick someone up. They're obviously like a fatal or somebody really injured and we're still going
We're still we're still moving through contra flow. Yeah driving along this my own through germany
It was really really hot 35 degrees in the middle of the summer really really hot
and in front of us
This our fire series bmw they were taking a Renault masterband somehow
He got hooked on a bad bumper and I blocked the two lanes. I said, oh, I can't even start here for us now
job
And i'm not bullshitting four or five minutes later four or five literally minutes later
There was two silver fire series bmw and they have a green swatman police. See however you say
They hooked us a
Strap on both of them. They were off the road. The road was moving again in five minutes
When there's a problem here, they shut the f***ing lever it does because I thought it was the a14
No, no, I mean at least honestly, you should live here. Yeah, when there's a problem on that bridge
There's a jump and they shut the bridge. Yeah, this town is gridlocked. Really? I'll take you free. I'll just get the other side of the tank
Oh
We're doing so much wrong
But you know, it's just common sense, but we love creating jobs, don't we? Yeah
The problem is we're creating for jobs for people that don't create anything. Yes, they don't put anything back
It's just an on-cost. Yeah, and I'm not I'm not a thing against civil servants
But we have created this layer of bullshit in this country regulation
You know the regulation that we actually I'm all for having safety
I was saying to everybody the checkbook valve and safety has no limber
And that's a fact. I don't want to see anybody get hurt or seriously injured or worse work of me
I wouldn't sleep because this place is is my life part of my family
um
But the crap we have to do it's not necessary
It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, it has the uk has become employee five people. We said the stuff there
Employee five people to stop one person doing his job
Hope and safety should be there to make the working environment safe not to stop you working
And it's a very big difference, but it's it's killed our
it's killed us
Ever being a sensible choice for another country to use it member back in the day. It was british engine british engineer
Well, we were killed out. This next zero is for that for it. Yeah
And you know what has killed that has killed a manufacturing Germany was the europe the european powerhouse manufacturer
That has killed their country
stoned it
Because of all this bullshit the cost of the power and i read this week earlier on they're coming and they're gonna nationalize
british steel. Yeah
Just so we waste billions more it will never work because of the cost of our energy. Yeah. Yeah
I'm trying to think of any organization that went
uh
national or or um
Non-privatized what do you call it? What's the word? I'm trying to think of any in the uk recently. That's actually been successful. Yeah. Yeah
You know, I think with margaret thatcher what she did years ago and people hate me for saying
She did the right thing because the coal mines had this country's both bollocks in their hands
Yeah, and I can remember i'm old enough to remember how the lights go now
Um, you know four o'clock in the afternoon the electric went off literally
No telly no no no lights
And so she had to do something about it
But she made a mistake when they sold these little bt and all these companies off
It should and the waterboards especially as we now see and now there should have been a certain amount of their profits every year
I've got to go straight back into the infrastructure. Yeah, unfortunately. You've got that one wrong. Yeah, um,
But it's like coal
We've got loads of coal
I was reading something earlier this morning up past five this morning
We're china one of their coal fire power stations
Created more co2 than like this whole country one
Yeah, all we're doing is exporting all the engineering and manufacturing to china. Yeah, what a great idea
So we're doing all of this. Yeah, we're selling off. We're we're um
We're outsourcing
Resources and we're getting china to do everything their emissions go up because they don't give a shit
Yeah, and meanwhile we're exporting our co2. That's all we're doing. That's so bizarre. It's ridiculous
So we fortunately people like jcb still manufacture here. Um, sure sure
Yeah, if they if you know, I can't if I was them I wouldn't manufacture here because the cost of doing that must be ridiculous
And you know hats off to lord bangford's a man. I know very well. He's a lovely guy and very pro-british. Fortunately
Wow, but when that goes when that generation goes well, let's stay. Yeah, of course
No, you know the car manufacturing same thing the unions killed britch car manufacturer and yeah
That's a shame, isn't it when foreign money owns car manufacturers here that the few years ago
The the nissan part of sundown was the most efficient car plant in the world
Yeah
Still being made by the same guys, but it's being run by people who won't put up with his crap
I'll just shut it
And you know, but they killed britch's island the unions a strong expanded shape when we were younger
They used to be a chat called red robbo. He was the the shop stood and there'd be tens of thousands of people at long bridge
And every every other week he was on the tv all out. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and the figures they made were crap as well. By the way, they call it with shit
What um
Why do you think we why do you think we do that? Why don't we why aren't we patriotic anymore?
If you look at the the states for example if I use them for an example
They wouldn't dream of letting a big american say apple no chance
They wouldn't a dream of letting apple sell out to china. No chance. And you know, everybody moans about trump
Yeah, he's a big stream
But you know, he's got some guts and he's actually that's all about america. Yeah. Yeah, and if we're talking that's often
Yeah, we had a lead like him
Yeah, if we're talking industry specific here as well
He's even gone so much just to say all those emission systems on those john dears all those machines would make
Get rid of it. We don't want it. We don't need it. Get rid of it. They're back. They're backed off on their diesel emissions
Yeah, yeah, because it's too far. Yeah, you know
The I've got an old truck here, which I'll kept because there's a picture of the new
The new registration used to be the first of august once a year and that's my father's birthday
And a friend of ours or became a friend owned a truck dealership two roundabouts from here and um
So we'd normally go up there about mid-morning
I think this particular over there 30 for 30 35 new trucks and he's the owner of the business. He's pa
Made cakes and as a sideline made my father a birthday cake
There's a picture of Jake when he's four years old and my dad in front of this truck
So it's anyways. I've even kept it. There's very few pictures of Jake and my dad
Anyway, I said you start our truck on the cold one. You won't see across the yard for smoke
You start when does the last time you saw a truck smoke?
The only thing you see smoke on the road are lefties who all drive way into old Citroen people carriers like smoking because they're not maintained
Yeah, yeah, this is so funny. You know, we're saying the plan. Oh, sorry. I choked you to death. I'm a crappy old car
So true. You're absolutely spot on. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely spot on
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna sit across the motorway and let everybody sit there with their eyes and engines idling
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, the world the world has actually gone mad
But unfortunately where we would be the country to go you lot are mad
We're gonna do our own thing. We're actually the extremity like we're the extremists in Europe. So we're gonna have no no
We're gonna stop all
If I remember this correctly
Petron diesel vehicles hours 20 35 we since throw away 20 30. Yeah, I don't know how they come from
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh crap
You know, it's like the European car manufacturers if they don't sell a certain range of
Of electric vehicles they get fine 15 is a 15 18,000 euros or something. Oh, yeah vehicle. Yeah, they'll have a drip that up
Yeah, all the all the all the manufacturer reverse lab electrics as fast as they can
Nearly killed the Volkswagen groups nearly killed Ford. Yeah, they lost 58 billion on electric games, I think
Porsche lost the money. Yeah, it's dreadful. It's ridiculous. The one the one that didn't fall for
I still had electric vehicles, but in fall for it to the same extent was BMW group
And ironically now just during one point came here as who I was with BMW
Um, this new ix so he's got 520 mile range
Wow, they've designed their own battery and it's a grained up car. Right. It's not an over for being w by the way, but I just
I don't know. We're gonna be fun. We love it. This is just unbelievable. I've just ordered a new i3 though
You can order them for the first of most I'll have on him. Yeah, look like a free series electric 560 mile range
Um, and my grave of electric vehicles. They have their place. It's not in trucks. It's not in plan
Nope vehicles driving around a city buses driving around a city
Soon as you start going up and down the road
The motorways for yeah, you know, doesn't work. We're a corporate social responsibility and I'll get shot
Shot the pieces for this. I don't need lessons on that
We are 100 eggs of wood there which is which has been given to a charity year for less fortunate children who issues and
And the young adults for them to manage for some to do, you know, sorry not some to do
That's the wrong way put as uh a vocation
Um, we we run the the newest most modern low emission vehicles we can
We've got solar panels over all these the the builds we're setting now
I don't need a lesson on corporate social responsibility. We employ ex-prisoners. We employ ex-servicemen
We do everything we can yeah
But tell us we've got an electric truck that costs three times the price and carries 30 less
That does three quarters of a day's work. Sorry. That's not happening while I'm in charge
And the cost of doing these these trucks is just with the whole thing bullshit. Yeah electric
There's a they should be a mix of energies
Yeah, you know, we spoke about early on gas. We're not we're not drilling our own gas
How can
Where's that bloke? He's never without visiting the town, is he unless he goes on a private jet to Davos to talk about how
Fucking great they are and saving the planet. Yeah, we produce 1% of the world's co2
There was an interesting thing I watched the other day
um
How much co2 is there in the atmosphere? Uh, 0.04 percent. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah
So this was a guy in america and he's asking he's talked to on the board
Whatever they call it in america senior energy people government placed
Um, so what percentage are we creating of that?
They couldn't tell them
You know, he said an a friend of mine, um
You know, I think he said he was in chicago. He runs sturdy
Urban delivery trucks 18 tons. I'd be over here. I guess 15 tons over there
He said, do you know what? I'm gonna see about change them to election. You run 12 for this and his warehouse
They went to the local power supplier and they came back. So you joking
You want you want nearly three times the power the factory that built those trucks
Used to charge those things so you can use them next day
It's bollocks. Yeah, isn't it? We have to be I'm all for saving the planet. Listen. I want, you know, I love our country
I love the world. I've got kids. I've got grandchildren. I wanted to buy but you have to be
Realistic about what is achievable without destroying everything around you and at the moment we're just destroying everything around us
The cost of everything is just going through the roof
Yeah, so what happens
It just stops people spend a month because everybody has their limits of what they can spend
Doesn't matter where you are on the financial ladder and I will use that expression for this one
We all have our limits. Yeah, and whichever round the ladder on we all want to be on the next one
But everybody has their limits and they're just killing at stone day
They've got a point of maybe seven quid and an ordinary village pub. Oh, no
How do we ever get to that? You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, was it the
There's a thing wasn't there on them
like over the last 20 years like
Compared they'd always do it to freddo's don't they where like freddo's are now 10 times more expensive than what there were
The wage. Yeah, and wages have only gone up like twice as much as what they were
So now it cost you five times more to live than it did. Yeah, but you don't you only earn twice as much as what you did
Yeah, it's it's completely unless you're on unless you're on social on the social because they're benefits have gone up
24 I've seen in the last four years. Yeah, but um crazy, isn't it?
Let's how crazy how can I be right? You're you got five kids and you get the 32 quid now to sit on your ass
It's uh, I know the more there's not a truck driver. There's not a machine driver taking home 32 quid now
After tax in this country. Yeah, but I know of it back in the day
you
You weren't forced to work, but it was
You go to work. You're proud to work now. It's you can't make people do anything because it's a human rights thing
Well, the local authorities and
You know like came to the county council with the first one to adopt four-day working week. Yeah, why can't I do for later?
You know, it's like it's worth a man
We had a CFA is a is a very very clever intelligent car has been with us four and a half years
He was a director at hsb
HSBC business unit in Cambridge
And who dealt with the whole of East Anglia and very very big advocate of all, you know
Proper corporate structure and he is smart as up. There's no two ways about that. I'm very analogue
We're the first to admit that and it
Bebs pretty about six eight months towards this is our HR manager. So what we got one in for
Well, we need to have one. We got him, you know
But looks anyway, so the first board meeting
He wheels this chap in he said, you know kind of open door policy and I'll be emailing all the staff
That's your first mistake
Anyway, I've had three or four months later and I've got to put an instant dislodable. It's just a twat. Anyway, um, he said
I said, uh, like he's where you are and I said, what's he doing in there?
It's a board meeting. Well, he just want I want to do a presentation. I said, listen
We've got a few hours to talk about real things. I'm not interested in this bullshit
We need to we need to concentrate on trying to earn some money
Let him just go and just give him five minutes. He said, you know, I've had it
I've been inundated, you know, I had his open door policy. I've been inundated with inquiries from the staff this Saturday
I was so right
He's someone leading assistant. I see not getting assistant. No, no, he said you're wrong on leading assistant
I know the time I said, look, let's just be very clear about this. I'm gonna frame away about you from an
I am every fucking share in this business. The owner of this business has just told you you're not getting assistant
Yeah, yeah, well, you're wrong. Fine. I'll be wrong then
And then he carried on a bit and then I'm about five minutes late. He said and I'll be working now from home two days
No, no, no, no work from home. No, he said no, but it's no. I think we just established. He calls the shots here
You will not be working from home. Yeah. Anyway, that was that. I said, I'm like, you're a fucking idiot. Anyway
Fallen Saturday
I might be saying too much here, by the way. Jake interviewed a machine driver
So as this boat walks in, Jake had to be in the building over there at the time he walked in
Just went on he said, I would take the digger driver on sadly, sadly, mum
You can't take anybody on without me in the room
He said, what do you know about digger drivers? And he said to me, he said, well, I don't know. Right, that flow of years
Yeah, uh, let's just say you didn't ask that much long
So safe to say there's no HR department. We had but we we were
The modern world is outsourced and we get somebody else to do it. Yeah, um, you pay for the services
Um, and it's not case of being unfair with employees that's been about doing that
So we're all about right processes now if I get fined, of course, he's just doing it right
We've we've we've taken out somebody who we didn't need here was an absolute twat in the first place
Uh, we had one in our previous business at RMD there and went to work one day or been a bin out on a site
And came back and went to walk the workshop and there's these two
um galvanized buckets half full of sand
So what twat put these on he tripped over at getting in the workshop door, you know the roller shut the door. Yeah, he's so rare
They spoke with every about hive is on you could have but how am I on goggles on he's in our yard for Christ's sake
He's not doing any work. Oh, yeah. Anyway, um
So I said to the bloke I said, um, I said, uh, who are you mate? You saw I'm the new Elton's April. So, oh, yeah, right, okay
So we put those buckets there for over people to put the cigarettes out. I said, okay, right, okay
And I'm a bit over time Lisa smoke saw this outside a hotel in in sort of rits. I think we're these lovely stainless steel mounted
Warm-mounted thing that's on your face. I don't I know she took her picture because I never remember
And they were 600 quid each and we had three on outside strategic places one outside where I work with sister
She smoke like train as well at the time
Um outside the workshop and outside the vehicle workshop
So I said, oh, so they can't walk an extra six foot to stuff out on someone give 600 quid form do so looks nice
I said, no, you made a trip hasn't I said no is that anyway a bit like a such sport
Common sense walk over top of the yard. There's quite a busy road with our old yard with all the van hire
Vehicles along the front when people are stuck in traffic. Everybody's looking at our van. I'm like best advert with how busy robe
All of it was being moved and the staff cars along the front
So I said, uh, who's nice. I'm me
So we're now to about our past 12 these first morning
So, um, I said, why have you moved to why have you moved to rental vectors off my forecore?
Well, he said that um, that's uh, the yard's like top one. That's the best service for the
Slashbroke service best service for the staff to walk on. I said, right
So you know lost my best advert. That's the way you go, mate. I said, we won't be we won't be any money
We need any fucking star pole spaces. Will we put the vehicles back there? So I can't work with this and he went
Yeah, because I'm
Health and safety is there to make the workplace safe not to stop your working. Yes common sense. Oh, I'm so with that people have learned their thing
Yeah, this this is the problem that that is the problem with it. I don't get hated for all this, but you know, I don't
This is my own personal being there's a lot of health and safety which has been fantastic
We were probably one of the first countries to adopt it. It's been amazing
You only have to look at some of the other countries where there is no health and safety and you know, they're they're poor, but
It needs to be practical and and I think that's the problem with a lot of the health and safety and the regulations is they're taught in a classroom
And they're told you can't do this. You can't do this. They read these black cards. We've all done those site induction things
Oh my god, they go through a slideshow yet show in a presentation and then they're dropped off in your yard
And they go round going that's wrong. That's wrong. That's wrong, but it's not practical
It's another thing about people who drive pick drive and ticker people to drive machines not all so
I'm very much a broad brush, but I'm not aiming to say everybody
They
Some of the blokes work me and one of the chats needs I've been driving a dig for 27 years
He's no this place. Can they can try and tell me he's the bloke couldn't dig a hole
Mm-hmm
I was in California when my wife three years ago, August
And we're driving on this big road busy road three lanes
And I think they call it the median in America the bit in the middle the central reservation very wide
They've got d tins running up and down the solidest and the the cones on the edge of the
Inside the carriageway. Yeah, that's not too lanes shut off to do it. No
We're talking about a major civil engineering project. Yeah. Yeah most of my boy cut in the verge here
If you're cut if they've cut in the verge one on layover do right here now. Yeah, that's rewolding by the way
Yeah, you know a spike never so the roads again the country lanes around here getting a narrower and narrower
Yeah, they don't cut the bloody hedges, but we are saving the planet. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah, but the fact you might crash into somebody and kill them
it on
they'll close down the motorway because
Uh, you know, there's a there's a branch in the middle of the road for an hour
But yeah, they'll they'll leave the country lanes
Or they'll re-world or what they call it when they um re-wild re-wild where they re-wild areas
so
It just doesn't make sense honestly
Along this road here the utero from the roundabout along there. Okay, so while I wrote my mother-in-law lives about eight
Hasl has long left the other side of the road
She's 88 years old and the bus stop this side of the road
This the is so ever-growing she went over there and cut about the shears herself
So the branches don't put when she's done her poor old girl
So the local counselor here
Is a fantastic lady. She's all pro this area is called Kesgrove
Everything's about Kesgrove and making a better for everybody
And I said to I said Debbie, I want to get hedge cut along here
Um, because it's dangerous the path's getting narrow and narrow somebody's going to step on the road
A car's going to hit them or god forbid every one of our trucks and oh, we've got trucks here
We're really killing everybody. You know the the counselor may have dangerous or more dangerous
So I said we'll have to yeah, that's really good. I sold to our expense
Anyway, um, so we left up a teams meeting with the Chapman Suffolk highways
An ecology person from Suffolk County Suffolk Coastal Council me and this local counselor. So um the chapter
The um highways went first. I see she's telling me what I have they just cut so too because it's dangerous
Why is it dangerous? I said because people the top paths now get to be a foot wide
Tell them the thing about well, but I don't know which is a true story. I said dangerous
I said the roads aren't that big anyway. I said his bicycle's riding along there. Somebody's gonna anyway
So then this young lady she was could have been 21 22
She said it's done for to help the wildlife. That's right. If that's the best you can contribute
Please don't say anything anymore during this online meeting. Yeah, so beg your pardon and the bloke from the council
She can say what she wants. Well, we don't need here. That's all bollocks. Do we?
I said it's dangerous
So are you telling me your bird's nest is more important than a human being?
Yeah, but there's everywhere ranges. We're in a green count, you know green
Around here look at that. We own a hundred aches of wood there right beside the main road. Yeah, you know
Anyway, so then he went on we're going to have to have your traffic management plan
We don't need any traffic management. We do early in the morning. She piled up again
Well, you'll be disturbing people's arrest
So I thought I asked you not to comment anymore when you're old enough to have some common have some common sense
There's some live experiences. You'll you'll be well with common and your comments will be valued and you're talking rubbish
Anyway, I said they'll go find me up in the council. I said, I don't go to you. Well, there's some water load of bollocks
I said, do you know I did?
Well, of course there's something to do and I was done the three days later. Nobody even knew about it
Yeah, I just did it. I should have done the first place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. It's all this
This regulation bollocks is really wild. Yeah, the Suffer County
Suffer East Suffer council had a brand new had a fantastic office officers old fashion buildings beautiful barriers
Anyway, they had this part of this new
The brand new building
Part of the family builds not fit for purpose
Another story which I won't go into on film but it was a joke
And at the front it looks like the build has been um, it's been empty for three years
Because there's no flowers or anything out front. No grass cut. It just looks sick
I even sweep the road and cut the verges near where I live because nobody else does it. Yeah. Yeah
It's just a like just a drop in the standards. Yeah, there was a on the
Epswich borough council and the local paper on there on their facebook page
But oh, um, we're now going to spend money on a green area switch so icon. Well, you don't need to do that because it's fucking wheeze everywhere
You don't never sweep the road. No, they never suck and go out. So
Well, since it pisses with rain, there's proper rain. This main road flows right across the path everything. Yeah
When I was a kid you see colleagues like there's all day if she's by our council at them everywhere
Yeah, I can't remember last time when he got here. So now they pay somebody a fortune to go and suck them out when it's blocked
Oh, yeah, that's it. That's it again the creative. Yeah, but if you didn't maintain a truck, it would be dangerous, wouldn't it?
Yeah, but the roads become dangerous. Yeah the roads aren't fit for the cars
So we have to MOT our cars every year to make sure they're safe for the roads
Do you know I was
I don't know if you've seen a series on tv called land man. Yes. Yeah, right
That old boy would love him and my wife and I love it because he talks sense
And in one of them he's driving along and they've been a series since no blowout
I think they call it in the in the oil industry and they had this really nice looking
um
Lawyer come meet in the city or can we see the sights we've drawn?
We saw lovely wind turbines clean energy today clean energy
What do you mean? So how's the how's the wind not clean?
What about the tens of thousands of diesel field to make the concrete? There's the you know
There's a quarter of an acre of concrete and then we got changed all in twice a year
Then our last 20 years there's they can't be recycled. They're saving the planet
Going off somewhere. What was I gonna tell you about?
I don't know old age. Let's put it down to that. Um, it's just bullshit
Yeah, the wind the wind turbine that I said, I know donald trump's he's come over to the uk and you're a few times and just said
You're ruining you're ruining your countries. You can't recycle
You can't recycle them. Yeah, they have to bury them when they're
Trouble is this winter. They have to bury them. I can't do this home. Yeah, and they're all made in china mainly
You know, they're solar panels. We can't repurpose wind turbines. They have to be buried
You can't be recycled. It's brilliant. I can't wait for emeralds as well as we're you know
You're saying we're gonna have to go multiple different fuel sources. I can't wait for them to realize
Oh, damn it. We've put too many electric vehicles out on the road. Yeah, we don't know where to put these batteries
That's it. That's ridiculous
We'll get china to do it. Don't worry about it. No, no, no, they've probably got a cunning plan already as blader would have said
Um, you know, it's like a friend of mine deals in in in damaged vehicles
He said and I don't know if anybody's ever watched about armstrong on youtube. Yes. Oh, yes car
Petrol cars you've got will think all the power of fusing was lost of the like fuel pump though
But now they've got a fuse and a battery by the fuse
So these cars get written off and it's hardly any damage to them because they need an 8000 battery when the fuse is probably about 300 quid
Yep
So how's they say in the plan either so we bought an electric vehicle to save the planet
But then since it gets a bump the cost of repair on it is so high as we've written off
Yeah, it's like crushing the petrol car and going take the engine. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I put new engine in
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, we've got a lot. It's got a rare crap. No, no, no
I was telling you about that. Oh, I know the land man thing. That's what it was. Yes
So years 10 years ago. Funnily if I came up as a trailer pitch now as a memory on
my facebook page like a dodge ram
Anyway, um, one more drive. I
Show it to you there then
look
Okay, oh, yeah, I'll jacked up dodge ram. So we're watching the land man the last Sunday before christmas. I missed it
Why don't you just get fucking truck like we always had a truck. Yeah, well, yeah, right
So about 23 seconds like I'm on my iPad and the best the best ram you can buy is called a t-race go
720 horsepower. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then I suddenly thought do you know what?
That's too big for the roads now because the hedges have made the roads narrower. Yeah, so I bought a
Range-eraptor. Yeah, Ford range-eraptor, which is still awesome. Yeah, but that's probably the size the the ram felt on our roads 10 years ago
Yes, okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the roads have got smaller
um
and
Not fit for the cars anymore and the cars have got bigger
Or in this case, I would all the car tax in first bridge for you to win up again the first of april as well
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just it attacks my car and it's like 650 quids for the year to attack this
It's like again could have had to whole argument of road tax. Well, okay
Do something. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. I think I think we have the lowest
spend of fuel tax
And road tax the lowest percentage in the world goes back in the rebuild and the highway system on the road
Sorry, sand america road network maintain them. We all know where it's going, but I won't go into that one. There you go
Yeah, we just we're just gonna end up becoming another
Italy or you know, they want they were once great and now I Italy's stunning. It's beautiful, but
Roads of dreadful. See it's all the time. Even the even the what they call over there. I love it when you're going
Arrivederci when you've been over there cheeky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
That's always someone else. I'm the Italian lady with a lovely sexy body
Arrivederci, I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, but the roads are dreadful. Yeah. Well, it's not just a wreck. It's everything infrastructure
Hey, I was just called there
I'm blank
Yeah, should know it's we've done enough miles on about anyway all age
We need we need a bit of AI here
Yeah, I tell you what I will I'll ask you who's your I think I think I know what your your answer might be
But who's your role model? Who was your hero? Yeah, everybody's got a hero and I've got a funny story about lord bampard because
He's he's a digger man thrown through his father was a crevice engineer
How was it and I'll stand to be corrected and I'll take to ever offend that lord bampard
Surroundfully the chairman as people in jcb calling
Um, he's made that business what it is today. His father's a great engineer. He's made it into a
It's just however the mix works and I've never what sound think derometry about him or what his part role is
But he's he's transformed it fantastic British company and when we sold our our previous company
We we had a massive fleet at jcb. Italian. There's a large fleet in the world
We sold out on the September the first 15 and of two three weeks later hand read a letter from
And congratulations on the sale of your business
Um, thanks for being a wonderful customer. It's lovely. Our families have done this 40 50 years whatever it was
Anyway, I'd like to invite you to have a lunch with me
So anyway, they got put off. He was busy. I was busy and I actually drove up there. It's a really dreary
Misty misty light rain February day a horrible day freezing cold
And when I got there, I don't know if you've ever been to jcb factory
Whether you'd have lunch with the directors is all glass one in as a corridor
So it was about four directors of the
Richard Richard Dunn who owns what can jcb and he's right-hand man and he reigned right-hand sales director
We're in there and the first thing is a chap called tim burn. Hope. It's been with jcb for years
He said unfortunately the chairman can't be with us today. He's full of flu and with the weather
He can't tail from dalesford in the cotswolds slash across the sheer he lives
It is a point anyway, so really do love the old way. Anyway, um, so we had lunch and after we had lunch
As you can say, I've got plenty to say. I'm also quite an emotional person
Um, it's tackled dan thompson who was the uk sales director at the time
He now works for what been jcb. Good guy. He got this box. No, no, we said we've had this commission for you
So, you know, uh, no before you came to open these for you. I figured say your file has been
And in his time and your time since you've been buying machines since the mid-80s
And we've we've worked out you've had 16 17 thousand machines offers
So that was quite a really choked up. And I you know, I'll get choked up quite easily
First to admit it anyway
And I've got to turn this round for a bloody in front of the powers
So I said, well, do you know what? I said, you're actually got you I said, I'm really I said, I bet you fuckers never thought
You'd see me without anything to say. Yeah, and they all had a chuckle and I've got a wave of this now
And I said, you know, that's lovely. That's what you got your fingers on because they had actually started buying stuff
Mid to late 70s. That's probably nearly 24,000. It should be solid gold not fucking silver. Anyway, with that
Tim Bernhope goes his own phones were in con open. So he say you see through you
Came in the chairman will be here in 20 months. He's got 20 minutes
anyway
Awesome. Yeah, so we go up to his office and you could see he was full of it
He looked dreadful poor old boy. He was he was genuinely ill
He said you know, I had to be out of respect, you know, over the years the amount of business we're done to get
He said I had to be you know, really like that. So we're chitchatting away
And then after about 20 minutes somebody came to us like this with a watch. He said, I'll go back in the car
I'm standing talking to the guy
Anyway, which was also very very pleased and proud of
Um, you know, why do you want to talk to a little fab digger about Mitch?
Which but anyway, that's the sort of man we're talking about. So I went round and I said, you know,
Well, you know, it's no end of time. So I've ever met you over the years. I said, well, yeah, I've been fortunate
I've met Mr. Bamford loads of times
Lord Bamford the chairman sir, Anthony
Right when I was a little boy when you scared my dad
And he's not about that's a waste of time talking to him about machines be like talking to Prince Charles
Listen, he's very well spoken, but he knows exactly what's going on. Didn't you worry about that?
I said is the coolest old boy I've ever met and he looked at him and
He looked around all these these directors and um, the people who own wattlings
Got Richard's help. I couldn't remember his name. I'm a nice guy. He said cool. He's cool. He's I don't think I've ever been described as cool
Why would you describe me as cool?
I said, I'll tell you exactly why I said in the late 80s
We had to always had the first machines of a new model
You get a little bit of publicity for a little company in Ipswich against all the nationals
And I said we had the first five three two one twenty four wheel equals four wheels
Equal size wheel 12 amishules and they they they were dreadful at the time. They'd leak. They were awesome. They were awful
Um came to the market just a bit too early. Anyway
I said, I remember dad saying if you can't sort these fucking things out
He said I've had a deal with mantel. I've already got sticker kits made
And the the big plant show back in the day and that was a big show was called s e d back in the day
They're all ready for the show shows down at s e d they'll all be mannered to us
But our name on them
I'll send you let my dad huff and puff and and and run out of steam when he was a really old tempered man called
Loving the best cause how he didn't have a heart attack die every day was a mirror was he was a kind of fucking temper
Anyway, and I said, I always remember you saying this is where I think you're cool. Well, Percy
Let's hope we can get these issues sorted out and you give us a stay of execution
That's why I think I would describe you as cool. Hmm. He said but call you've missed a large part of that story out
What your father also said was he was gonna have one of we didn't saw mate
He's gonna have one of these these machines transport put it right outside your office pay for all the uk plant press to be there
Well, one of our blokes cut the fucking thing in half
And he'd remember that for these years. I did it
Wow
But yeah, no, it's cool bloke and and he's a heroine and I said that to him
I said everybody's got heroes footballs footballers cricketers film stars car racers
I assume I here because of what you've done for our industry
And jcb has made our business and I know dad they and you know good money
You know, it's a two-way thing and a good business relationship. It has to be a two-way thing
It can't be all my way. Can't be all your way. You know, it has to work for both parties and
So jcb is a massive part of my life. Yeah, it really is
And I've never forgot that, you know, um, they really put us on the map if they work with us
You know, they want you know the wonders to succeed
They want all their customers to succeed of course
But we were very peculiar because people like you in the high back of the day
Would have had a bigger fleet at the time that the chaff you ordered them was an accountant possibly or
We lived in the yard needs to sit only we live with them. So we had the problems first
We're on the phone to Australia way. Look, you've got this problem. I really care and problem
So we were very close. He wouldn't still do now not to the same extent, but um
He was used to say to me as well
Now guy, what about train machines?
And I happened to get shot by jcb for saying this is
Hmm
It's not not for us. Why is that? I see because that's shit
Hmm
The new ones rather good, you know, and I had this a number of time over the years
I said we'll send this one down to try for you. I think that's a good
Anyway, over the years they were dreadful never bought trams and we started buying them may two years ago may 24
But a few little issues when I got those on down very quickly and do not they've been absolutely fantastic
I'm pleased to say really really good made in this country. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Brilliant amazing british jobs
Yeah, english jobs british jobs. That's it. That's what we need. We're keeping it in in britain. Yeah
Yeah, everybody thinks they don't you know great thing buying a chinese car. They're not spending they're not doing us any good
No, no, no, they're destroying the whole of europe
Systematically, yeah, three days. That's why in chinese cars
I won't have a chinese car. We had some chinese shoes. We had to buy some sannies
When we couldn't couldn't get anything 22 no late 21 early 22
Um, because they're you know, definitely in buying machines. Um, so we bought some sannies. They've been okay. Yeah
Would I rush to buy any more? I'm not really sure. I know jackson ain't gonna try a 50 tonner
But bread and butter stuff it doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah, I've been very reliable. I have to say. Yeah. Yeah
That's why the I find the you know the tariffs trumps been doing over in the us
I feel like sometimes we should be doing that. We we bring us so much
We should be tariff in the absolute peanuts of all his stuff
You know, but there's no tariffs at all and you go down there. Is that so so you have this hands made in this country
Um, mini is made in this country. How long is it before bnw group with the minis for example, say, do you know what?
Bollocks to england we're going to make them in hungry. Yeah, yeah, that's slavakia. Yeah. Yeah
You know, he's the reason jaguar lander have made the new defender build a brand new factory in slavakia and not in bermagam
Yeah, because they cost to build it. Yeah, and they probably can build it quicker
Have to jump through less hoops less red tape. We've got we've had loads of defenders
Never ever had jaguar lander over products
Um, and I think that's five years they've been out now. We had the first lot and a few minor issues
There was a few things but you know, what a great vehicle. Yeah, and I've actually got one of the very last the old ones
Which I bought the the day before we got our first new shape one
And I drive it. I normally go to jakes house once a year. I don't know if it's about
10 14 15 minute drive to my house and every other driver one day I get a text the first of april
And then for six months and then put it back in the shed
It stays in the shed all the time because it's a clap to space and he's done for it a while
And then you drive the water a bit of shit
It's a rinse. How big rough do you do? I'm listening a part of me on the flatbed. I'm a small bloke
How can a big strong?
A service one drive they must have that must have always a return on the wrong arm
Because if you're cramped, but it's just something about they're so crap. They're awesome
But it's new one. He's just a different thing. Yeah, and I've got so I'm now my second ranger ever personally never had one until them
It's unreal. Yeah, but why do we have to wait for foreign investment to do it? Yeah, you know, why do we have to wait for a big indian?
A conglomerate to buy don't know the funny thing is as well. We showed all of these countries how to do it
And now we're paying them to do it
When I was trying to explain to take when I was younger
Rolls Royce, for example, I've got Rolls Royce cars. I love them. It's enough to have them. It's my one week's in life
I'm very happily mad. My one week's is cause I love cars. I love vehicles
They still get to send me when I see a new truck come down there
Absolutely fantastic when my father had him when I was a kid. They were crap
Look great. Everything you touch the paint work the leather and the wood was fantastic
Mechanic they'd been the same for 40 years. No investment
The Rolls Royce was like poison shells one was owned by the government. There's owned by figures and it's owned by boac
BMW had to buy and do it properly the same as happened with Bentley. I had a Bentley jeep. I know ten eight ten years ago
vvv eighties or absolutely
unbelievably good
Audi engine and no doubt and the chap said to me I've ordered one
I had one and in this office when I went to pick it up in came friendly Cambridge
He got this last impression on one last. What's that one? It's got big words. It looks a bit like it looks a bit sexy
Are they doing a doing an s?
That's all just one. I mean set the same colors. I don't know. Yeah. He said you said you'd be a good customer as well
Well, everyone knows definitely anyway, would you like to go to the factory? It's love to went to crew
And a guy about my age sitting on tv since Neil or Nigel is saying was one people haven't factory visits. Anyway
So you go into a room bit like a presentation welcome guy. Nigel was to
Bentley crew
So I said, it's by all of you work here. Oh, we say I came all the way to school work in the trim shop
Back in the old days and the noon
Then they take you around it's about 25 people hand stitch and sermons. Absolutely awesome. Yeah, fantastic
all the things we're really good at in this country
and um looking around
awesome
Um, we said that's my um, that's my cousin on the second chair in there
Anyway, then we went out and part of maybe it's all changed been updated now
I understand with the bag the engine part of the factory. That was my colleague
I said, how long have you worked? He said two days long and then we used to sit next door to each other next door each other at school
And they were all the family all the work there. I was can I ask you to a question?
What did you think when folks were on board?
He said, well, you can't switch it. So I thought we're gonna lose the jobs
That's all we're gonna go to Germany blah, blah, blah
Nothing can be further than the truth and the same had the same conversation Rolls Royce
owned by BMW
The um, we all thought the same. It's all gonna be lost now. It's got to be built in in the uk in in in england
Um for the for that britishness that the world other parts of the world love and we love here
Um, but what we have had since we've been part of the vw andy gribbies
We've got the biggest research and development pulled a call on
He said, that's why they're so good. That's the same with a with a Rolls. I've had a fortune. I've been that same time
And I've been fortunate I've had I've had a number over the last few years because that's my one weakness as I say
He got a spectre was this is it's about two spectres. Yeah, uh, yeah
But great thing do I like I did say to the ceo that when we I went to california
It's when I said we were in california three years ago for the launch where
Um, I'd give 50 grand more for it and have a v12 and a bird and this jump this is the way forward
Well, I think things have slightly changed but anyway, who was it? Um, who did mr. Bean?
Oh, that can sit. Yeah, didn't he do didn't he? Yeah, he put a be a he put a w16
Yeah, the basically the the bagatti
Bagatti engine and a bent your Rolls Royce and the Rolls Royce the only one in the world
Yeah, he did you're quite right. Well, well because they were going to do that, weren't they?
And then we're going to do it and then they they when that v12 engine is just ridiculously good
You know and you can literally put a 50 pence coin on a 10 on age a rev it up and it doesn't move
Yeah, it really doesn't I've actually tried it and it doesn't move. Um
But so
We've got the skills in this country to build stuff and to build it properly
Talked about two high level classes and I'm not trying to be arrogant in this part of conversation
But we never put the investment in and it's no different of this business. You asked about this every penny
That comes that we earn goes back into this business. Yeah, because it's for the long term. We're not we unfortunately see that
Honestly, but it's not you know, I'm fortunate
You know, I try to draw a way to pay my electric bill at home and I'm a water bill my household bills
That's it. But um, and I'm in that fortunate position
Okay, but the whole thing is about building a business at this long term and sustainable. It's not about me
It's not about just about jokes about grandchildren
And it's also not just about the families about the people we employ the people I described earlier the inner circle of trust
You know the people who have made the hunger hunger hat on true seven
The true seven family when you call it internally, you know, we want to be a long-term part of this
So I have a responsibility
Jake feels a very heavy responsibility. You know things are crap. We've got pay these people every Friday or every month
You know, we've got we've got frowned and not families. We've got to worry about. Yeah. That's not just about us
Yeah, and I might send people know us a load of politics. You're just a greedy businessman. It's not about that at all
If you look at the books, I don't take anything out. But you know other people I know business take millions every year
Not interested. That's all about
Building up something that but so we've become try and set the sands in our industry
We did it with early energies ago
We're the first to have air con and we're the first to have chassis level
We're the first to have hydraulic four position on to set to separate ourselves from the national hire companies
Who they'd be slightly cheap and us at the time although we were very competitive
We had to be of course
But their service was shit because there's nobody who gives a gives a gives a ship on up monthly
I've always had a bit. He's my numb. There's a meat knob just been nice to me. Here's my card
If you've got a problem in our business, you can't you're not happy you phone me. Yeah, my phone's never off
I'm like, I'll wait till I don't close. Yeah. Yeah, I don't care if you phone me on a Sunday night
Unless I'm on my deathbed. Yeah, I'm answering
I also do have a little joke and I said my phone's never off except for 30 seconds every Tuesday once I've fought and I want to
Get my leg over no no that's 20 seconds now. I don't smoke anymore
But um, no, that's all about this. You know, we actually do give a shit about the people who work here
The people that care about us. I hasten the way the trains in ones. I couldn't give a fuck about them. They don't care about us
I shouldn't say that but I say it is yeah
It's my own father. Yeah, I Jake said you say it's me stock on a boat and roll of you know people these need for it
They all think they're owners of fortune. You know, we've got a business here
We're in a 2% margin
I said, Jane, why are we bothering but this is what we do. We hope for better times to come
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Yeah, do you think the
Because that's the thing the industry one of our topics was
You look at the the landscape now and it's not just this industry everything's extortionate, but
You've got obviously what's going on with Iran and the u.s. At the minute forcing
And diesel oil to go up
You were mentioning it's already paper thin margins in this industry, but it's it's so expensive to do it
That's ridiculous. Well, the fuel's gone up
45 50 percent I was talking to a friend of mine who until very recently owned the largest
Haulage company in the uk everybody taught space stowa. He was big in the stowa stowa's never had any money
He he's business did he was sold at msc
Meda and shem company and he still runs the haulage on from he said by a million litres of diesel a week
They cost 450 grand more last week and they did before this yeah, you put it into yeah
450 that's 45 percent more. Wow. And by on the level they buy a million litres a week. That's your profit gone
That's it. No, it's not 45 percent of the haulage industry. They have a good year
They work on a one and a half percent margin
But they're turning over masses of money. Yeah, and he's spoke very super clever guys. He's Jake's neighbour funny
I've been friends for 30 years very clever. Love having a conversation always learn something
That's a simple thing. You talk to somebody clever you'll learn something you talk to a twat
You want to walk away you learn you learn enough know you yeah, this might be a bit of a double-ended question
But I suppose what made you
Sell for rent and then what made
Let's let's let's um the true story that he's my sister
Who I was in partnership with she owned 50 and I owned 50 I'm 63 next week. She's 66 next week
Three years old and me she's not been married. She's got no she hasn't got kids
Jake was doing the world championship at the time. He wasn't interested in that business
He wouldn't even fill his mother up home up with diesel and yard. He hated it
And so she was gonna happen and my sister I love it a bit since she was a great great partner
I wouldn't have changed anything. She deserved her 50 cent when we sold up
Um, but I was like as one man. She I was doing a thing everybody's saying with the last two companies we bought didn't tell until afterwards
I remember saying she won't be nice to him. Fucking awesome. That's what so you think at 10,000 reasons not to do that's done
Yeah, we're gonna miss the bogey and otherwise. Yeah, um
That's and in the end she was worried she was gonna have me something happens to you because she couldn't mind my mind
Our box of toilet rolls I've said it before and it's not been derogatory about
That was it wasn't her thing
Um, she wouldn't know if she paid too much or too little
Um, and she wouldn't ever she couldn't ever sell on the other, you know, that's my
I've got a very small skill level, but that's the only one I'm any good at and um
Just all happened by chance and somebody came along fell in love with it
They paid a load of money for it. See you later. Best thing I've ever done
And there are chances to go off on my own not because I had a problem with my sister tree had no problem at all
But to do things exactly how I want them. We already own this
So we just we start with three shipping containers over there as officers mini mobile
I think they called a rental company and um, there was nothing here
But you know, I just always want to have a nice yard. Yeah, and if you look at how I feel it's got a that's got a
A balcony on it. Do you know when a balcony's on there because it smokes at the time when they stop you smoke
And also I thought well, at least I don't have a fag kick run if I wouldn't we
Like it. I like it
No, that's that's the only reason I got sold is a great question. That's a truthful answer
Yeah, I think we were just lucky really somebody came along fell in love with it
And we read the access to the merit the fund by 85% of it
Um, that's the best thing personally. I've done in my life
But business wise. Yeah, because it just gave a clean sheet of paper to start again
Yeah, what's the what's the biggest hard lesson and what biggest mistake you've made
In business, we're not going to be here long enough to talk about your mistakes. I've made
Um, well, god, that's a good question. Every successful person's made a shit. No every day every day when I miss us
Yeah, somebody said that I see I made a mistake marina 37 years ago
um
38 years ago this year, um
God, I don't I make them every day. Yeah, I say things that people like thinking sometimes because I'm I shoot from the hip
Yeah, um
What do you think I just had a round with a sweet little driver in the yard
Yeah, I'm driving around normally driving around with pickup
Yeah, I'm kicking on things shakes in here
And he's doing what he does gets up on the morning coast to sign see his projects and do some pieces
And um, so I spend all day driving around there. We had a bit of an arm about a few weeks ago
I said, well, hold on a minute
You want to think so lucky I'm still here doing what this job and nobody doing the job like me because I know this job
No, every aspect of it sounds arrogant, but I've lived it and that's what I do. Yeah
It's what this sweet driver do you come here? We said
Well, I thought about it. I've done another couple of laps around the other night. I'm stopping them out to pull up
Okay, I said, oh, you know, I owe you an apology. I should have spoke to you like that
I said, you know, I've done I've taken I've taken now on you
Because we're doing shit
This is the truth. I said, no, I apologize. So that was a mistake. Yeah, I'll do things like that
But you know, well, they're sitting there trying to be mr. Burr, which I'm far from I can't apologize when I'm wrong
Yeah, I think I've been sometimes wait on the morning
One o'clock morning. Oh, I grew dark and then the first thing I'll do I'll mess with somebody in the morning
Give us a ring. See if you're up in a bay. Yeah, sorry about it. I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, that's right
And you have to better but you'll get a lot of respect doing that thing. So and you know
I don't shout at somebody in the office and then say sorry to him behind closed doors
I wouldn't in front of everybody else. You know, somebody's and I don't have a watermelon shouting in the office
I'm exaggerating, but if somebody just says something to go to something
Idiot, I apologize to him in front of people as well. Yeah
Yes, that's all very well, you know, go on off in front of people
But you've got if you're going to reverse out or go sideways, you've got to do in front of people as well
So you can see it. I'm not perfect. I'm a million miles off
But um, and that's probably the biggest mistake I've been losing my temper, you know
And I'm not an aggressive person. I'm aggressive in business
Because you have to be um
Passionate passionate. Thank you. So yeah more than aggressive. Yeah, but I'm just like, oh, why do you do that? Yeah
Yeah, that'd be the I think it's probably the the way I do that on a daily basis
I've never I would like paying for every time I had to say sorry for people but
Yeah, they're saying that you live on you know, a lot must get done if you
Try and you know, I can't part with lazy people. Yeah, I cannot part with it
you know
Jake's a great advocate for and he's ballasting of apprentices. I think we've got 40
I think he said to me in the weekend 40 apprentices. Oh, wow. Yeah, which I think the
The big companies look like when they talk about corporate social responsibility
Or you'd have 5% of your workforce. We've got about 11 or 12%
Yeah, um
And some most of them have been very good. There's a there's a one. Yeah, not so good. Yeah, and when they slope on our bag
Um, I can't be doing what we they are tipper and concrete team
We're in the first floor of that building over there for a while
And they had this young guy who they taken on to help with the paperwork for the tippers
And I said take his fucking uses you want me in a knuckle drain walk along those half dead
So no, he did the guy's run. I see fucking uses. Anyway, my suspect Jason
He said dad, you can't be too hard on these people. I give my chance
I said, oh, I've got a very simple if you start off a twat you end up a twat
um
And I'm bearing on I'm very analog and very old fashioned with my views
Um, and sure enough they had to find out the cells too much there. He's he's played with women and he builds
He done the bills come wrong
And my daughter actually pointed out to me said, do you realize he's had four days off in his first two weeks for work here?
Oh, his cars broke down. He's he's he's alarmed him go off
It doesn't want to be here. Give it exactly that give it a fucking break. Yeah, I can't be doing what people don't want to work
No, there's no point asking you what
The differences between um young people nowadays and back in the day because I think we all know the answer to that
Um, but what's your biggest piece of advice to somebody?
Young getting out of education or thinking about going to further education or start an apprentice
You know, as I said earlier
You've asked me my views doesn't make me right and people will be disagreed will disagree with them. No doubt
Everybody's entitled their opinion. I went to public school not one person went to university
um, they were all
Many um their family's own business all they were farmers a lot of farmers
And haulage people in this area because they're fully so docks. Um, there's a place for educated people clearly no question about
Well, does everybody need a degree?
You know some friends of ours. Um, he's the my friend who's the same as me. He's he's
You know, you got kids and one of them's at the university. What you don't know. I'm doing history of art. What would you use that?
I don't know. But it's fancy doing it
Always pretty easy your life. Yeah. Yeah, fucking job. Uh, I load of my mates have got
I take take the piss out of sometimes they've got sports degrees. I call it pe
And ultimately when you ask them
Why did you go to uni and do sports science or whatever so we could play football for longer?
I think you know, and I'm and I'm a very extreme person. You know, we got this
We now got so many young people like we're mental health. Yeah, yeah, fucking job
That'll help me mental health. But above this we're proud. We've we've made it impossible or virtually impossible for people to employ young people
Because the mineral weights are so high. Yeah, and you know, uh, I went I went uh,
I love fast food on mcdonald's but wife was in london the other day. Uh, I talked to the point
I thought well
I'll come get a big bag and chips and then the try for you hell of a week. It's supposed to be fast food
Yeah, and the old boy put my money, you know when you go in the corner when you order you give me a credit card or you pay
Who's about my age?
And you drive the next moment I hand you the food this whole guy was bowing me
I should bow for this. You see what I can't get any young people dirty more, can they?
Swear to god, this is mcdonald's. Yeah, I had many people
Nothing wrong with that start the liars working on mcdonald's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, I've stopped it
No, I said exactly killed it. Yeah, but you know
What's the advice is to work hard nobody's going to give anything it's life
Let's spend your life on so on the social new you can be giving stuff every day of life
People have no self-fulfillment. No, no unless unless you get a self-fulfillment about being overweight to sit and watch and tell you all day
I'm gonna eat your shit food. Yeah
I'll say but you know, we asked about business early on and I was I didn't say it
I feel really sorry for people
people
like people who've got hair dressing shops or
Or restaurants or like a small privately owned sandwich shops
Yeah, they can't get anybody to work from the business rates keep going up their bills keep that earning nothing a friend of ours
intelligent woman
She married to a big farmer. We've been friends literally since we were young kids
And my wife went to her daughter who's about shakes. She'd be 35. They've all grown up together. She's got the most wonderful
um
A cafe restaurant on on part of farm where they've got some lovely
Out officers have built these units. My wife went there with my daughter. She does absolutely beautiful
There's a cure for people to get in there and then the the the girl who owned us in
Oh, I took the six year before we made a profit
Last year as our first year made a profit
Bear in mind they've got people queuing to get in this place good quality food
But fast food good quality food
We lose the fortunate man
Oh
Makes no sense, does it? That's not fair on people. No, no, there'll be nothing left of them apart from chains of mcdonalds
Yeah, yeah, and the whole country eat shit food every day. That's what I said. I'm the first to meet. I love a burger
Yeah, I'm gonna
You just can't eat healthy in general. No, you go to a services and it's my dog fc
It's it's just crap. Yeah, that's what I love about it. Yeah, still parts of france as well. Yeah, they won't eat it
There's all right. There's mcdonalds in italy. They were near the amount of over here. They won't touch it
There are two three restaurants that my wife and I go be like, I would go out and I go
Sally lunch time a Sunday lunch time and one arms
Tony probably on the Tony restaurant and ironically the two chefs are from the middle of Suffolk. Yeah, where's the dialect?
You know, you've spoken to understand
It's just how it is
But the quality of food is just
Unbelievable it's all you can only have they change menu every month. You can only get what's in season now
It's all they cook and the food is unbelievable. Yeah, there's two other restaurants
We are doing same thing. Yeah, and we went to one and it said
there's a
Duck leg with leeks from the the next food you can see out the window. That's it. That's where they come from
The important potatoes from Poland remember. Oh, we're saving the planet. We've killed a bliss kill british agricultural
Yeah, that's the thousand mile journey burning up diesel. I want to know if it's um, if it's pork
That's in a fridge box with a convertor engine with revenants bollocks off all the way over here
Burn another tank of diesel. Yeah, and that's saving the planet. Yeah, nice. Sorry. I don't see it
I'm perhaps I'm a bit too old person or a bit too sensible. I don't get it. No
And then we're doing around here now. He's putting ways of of solar panels on some of the best agricultural land in the country
Yeah, it's a disgrace. Yeah, or or winter. I was actually
This I went to this reform around with the other night and we were asked to go and for drinks and canapes afterwards
And one of my friends is a farmer and they were talking about that's 200 acre solar farm the place
Quite a weird take this lovely little village of a beautiful southern village. I said, is that your land?
He snatched my brothers and she was changing themselves. He's supposed to be fucking farmers and and I thought I don't give a shit
I'll fall out. Yeah, because that's exactly what I feel. Yeah. Yeah
And okay, that's the farmers are having a very tough list make no secret of that. Yeah, but it's a cycling time
Hopefully the people with brains will get in power one day and it will change
Yeah, all the villages near me have all got stop industrial solar signs outside their houses on all the lamp posts
Taken on we're invited to go on a a paltry to last september
By the lady who owns a large cabaret here in the country. Anyway, we went there beautiful park just past barricade only just into scotland
and I built this massive
The real pretty village was gone. I don't think that their footage is necessarily a pretty normally the color of stone is quite dull for me
But this was a beautiful little village unless you come out. It's got a big as marking solar farm
We've ever seen and it's actually beautiful countryside. Yeah
Yeah, that's a joke. Well, sorry, but it is a joke. Yeah, absolutely. Yes
And I have my for speaking your mind because a lot of people don't do that now
Well, I'll get shot down. I'll get hate and I'll get a bullet mouth check about it
But you know, you know, it's an interview about me not about the business. Yeah, but not about me. You ask him
You're asking me questions. Yeah, I feel about it. No, it's about and it's not irreversible, but it needs we need to get it in reverse fairly
Yeah, quick. Yeah, we've got we're going down a pan. We've got a very very similar mindset to you
So we got my wife and I've got rob war in our house the last Saturday of November
6 30 on a Saturday tea time
We watch not is it cat on the one before last formula one?
and
In an orange red glass around it
I said put the cameras on we've got the shutters open put the cameras on dogs go man. It's a fucking bloke stood there about
30 feet where I'm sitting
Oh phone the police took them 45 minutes. The roundabout you came past is four months from where I live
Yeah, where you turn left to get here. Yeah 45 minutes to get there
I said and they were useless. Yeah. Oh, yeah, three of them two of them. I didn't from didn't know then went upstairs
Don't know why but into our bedroom. They've been in the bedroom
Missed the house and you're in the house. They're jobs
But then when you you see on the news this week 90% 2% of ogres don't get solved
What did they take did they take it and just took a watch
Didn't have much so almost more watches after covid when everything was making a fortune
Yeah, it's just what it's a waste of time. I've never wear a watch anymore. Everything's to say, isn't it?
Well exactly and I had a good prof on a friend of mine really want them. Lovely you haven't yeah, and I've never replaced them
And the one they need. Yeah, you know, I got watching you more. Yeah, I think the only watch I had
Yeah, but not worth having you put a target on yourself
Sold to them and cars
There's been lots of us you we cars, you know this thing. I'm slow and you drive a Porsche get rid of your Porsche
I'll give you a fiesta. Yeah, so that's the old conversation James pretty quick then
But uh, well, they should drive as a defender most of the time, which he prefers to a Porsche. I think anyway, um, what Porsche you got
Turbo s turbo s very nice. He prefers the defender op defender opter. No
No, no, no. Oh my god. I've never out is unbelievable. I've only ever driven M5 engine and it's got a similar
Similar suspension to a McLaren. It doesn't mean going in the corners. Oh fair enough
I always think we argue about he's got always a ride out on Sunday morning on my own to a lovely place in suburb called Orford
It's so backward. Not backward
It hasn't been spoiled. It's like I'm kind of 50 years ago. It's still the same
And I normally have an I'll go if I go with a friend go this bakery get coffee and just sit next to the water
I'm and this shows you how mental I am
If that's pissing down the rain and blowing I go the place has got its own beauty
The same as it has the same beauty but a different from a different angle when it's beautiful
And the border is flat and people are going out in the speed boats or the fishing boats or whatever
Um, and we argue about who's going to take this octa on a Sunday morning
Tell them when I've got this new range over last delight. She said she can't you range every kid tell me they're good at
Fucking thing is so we argue about who's going to drive this octa. He's so good
Yeah, it's like an old man's sports car. That's what I call it. Yeah, I'm getting on out there. Yeah. Yeah, brilliant. Yeah
What's your favorite car?
What's the best car you've ever bought?
Some changes
One time and this sounds really, I know I afford different models of Rolls Royce's and I was asked that question quite a bit
Which one's your favorite? It's the last one I drove. Yeah, is that all brilliant? Yeah, they all drive definitely
I just range over I think that's fantastic diesel range over absolutely unbelievable. I love this this thing
I've got my pick up. I love that. I wish I had more time to drive my vehicles because I never go anywhere
I don't leave it. I would live the rest of my life when I go on that bridge. You came over and you all went rich
I like like where I live around here. I don't go anywhere. Yeah, but I just love vehicles. Yeah, and that pickup is awesome
I love it. Yeah, absolutely great. Yeah
I drove a new a new transit
Vang the other day a brand new transit company. How good are they nowadays?
Have you got one? Who's just out of these?
That's mine. Yeah, they're good.
When I was racing quads years ago when they first came out and three winners before them
You'd be on diesel transit. You'd be going deaf when it was just flat out at 65 mile an hour
Like this
So good. I've slightly cheated because I've gone for the the Volkswagen
Badged transit this this time. It's a T7. T7. What is that? It's a Volkswagen
But it's basically a transit. Yeah, that's it
But you know that this might be same factory course, but they're absolutely
Unbelievably good. Oh, they are. They are so good. Yeah. Yeah. So good. So my favorite vehicle is
Whatever the mood I'm in really and I know it sounds like I'm being a really big hit in practice. I just love vehicles
I drove a Scania tip of the other day
Just out. Do you know I'm driven a truck. I afraid just just drove it
There's no dual cars around about five six mile range only
How cool I'd love to have driven a lawyer like this when I was young. Yeah, but they were shite. Yeah
You know, imagine the old tin cab Ford car goes. I remember when I was 18 with dad bought me
We used to go to the auction by a load of vans
And he said
It's a question that new glory the Ford has come out as a 4d series for which has been accessed since the 60s
You'll have the first one if she's boy, don't worry about that
Well, he did he bought me the first one had a little beaver tail bonny pot. It was a four cylinder four speed
But no power steering they did a six. So he says plenty fucking quick enough for you
You put an in-ear trailer belt on about you put two diesel trans on it
And you'd be going up the hill flat out in third and 30 40 mile an hour because you couldn't change that. It's died
Yeah, but that is progress now. How things are days. Yeah, so good. Yeah, so good
If you like electric vehicles, I've just driven a really impressive vehicle spawn the new just before I met you the new
BMW ix 3 electric car that's now become electric has now become a serious prospect
It's got 510 or 520 mile real range. Oh my god. What a great vehicle. Yeah
What a fantastic vehicle bm. What can you say?
Honestly, no, and um, he showed me which is an abyss in the new
Three three series is coming out. No, I've got I've got you do a glatton a lot
Yeah, that now you can order them from the first one. I said just order me the best one I do
Big grills on it. But I was big
Of course very retro looking. Yeah, bang bang out modern. Okay. Oh my god. What a fantastic bit of mess electric
So I like the electric Rolls Royce
When I prefer which makes sense by the way, yeah
It does for me because I plug in at home
Um, it works like that if you can plug in at home
And I watched a lot of youtube now and there's a what car
I think it was to the test last week a week for a v8 Bentley Bentayga suv four wheel drive
Versus a Rolls Royce electric specter and the first thing they said, look, they're not like for like
This is not what it's about. We can do a little mini test on both things
But really the thing is we can do the same journey and see what the experience is
Owning an electric vehicle as opposed to a petrol vehicle. Yeah
Mum, I had a great day
But now both fantastic vehicles, by the way, and that's what they said
They cost 54 quid more to charge the Rolls Royce. I'm they did to refuel the
Bentley on the same journey you watch on the youtube watching. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, honestly. Yeah
See, this is another thing. So we've got all these hot tub fuel prices
How can people charge an octaves about eight or 10 p.m.
In at night and you pay 85 or 90 p for fast charging and and these stations like it's one up the road here
Yeah, you know, thank god they are there, I guess
But that doesn't work. No, but uh, when the spectre plug it in at home charges up
Full tank of petrol electric and it's gone. Lovely. I don't go anywhere. They're not said earlier
But I want to drive me to Cornwall. What does it say if you were going to Santa Francia and have recharged six times?
Yeah
Just talking the work. No, of course. No, but the BMWs. Yeah
500 mile plus. Yeah, all of a sudden. Let's let's get a bit more serious
You go and do it
You could drive to Bristol and go and do a bit of business and come back on the same day
We could charge overnight if you've got a facility at home if you live on the street in London
You've got to go over expensive electricity, haven't you? Yeah, you know, we've got electric charging points. We've got a number of electric cars here
um
Do I necessarily agree with I think the reason the electric cars have been so popular because the company car tax
When they changed that now we've got a paper mile
You know, then this was 11 or 12 quid a day congestion charge
Hold on. I thought we were trying to save the planet here. Now you're going to charge this gun even if you've got an electric car
Yeah, just shows that there's no joint up thinking at all. Is there it's not yet. It's to do with control
Not the planet. Well, then it's that control exactly there
No, uh, what did I read but the government spent three billion pounds last summer on paying people who own solar farms and wind farms
Because for the electricity we haven't taken because the grid's not enough source
Well, surely so I build the house for a building you do your footless first, don't you?
Of course you sort your grid out first. Oh, yeah, and then start bringing stuff into it
My friend wants to just me years ago, you know, it's like try that's like building a town when I put them out of a between them
Yeah, you know, you know, you build a motorway first. Yeah, of course. We almost need
business people to become politicians
Or business people learn how to become a politician not a politician trying to learn business and that's
They don't learn business. It's the problem most of most of the guy
I don't think any of the camera the current camera have ever had a job over the outside
outside, you know, I'm working for the public sector
um
Which is dangerous in itself, by the way. Absolutely. Well, let's spend the public's money, aren't they?
There's no control when you you know, when you spend your own money, you think about it, don't you?
Yeah
When I went to this reform thing chapter, would you would you be interested in sense?
Listen, I've got I've got a job. I've got a business trying to run. My son is run
Now I said, well, I'm still a little but a little part of it and that's what I do
So then I got asked by the party chairman, would I be interested in advising on industry in this area?
That's 100% because that's exactly what you need and they they recognize exactly what you just said
Yeah, so therefore they can't be the sensible. Yeah sensible thing just quickly on the cars
Seen a lot of take-hands. I'm a massive Porsche and we are a lot of massive Porsche fans
But the take-hands obviously they were losing loads of money, weren't they?
Doesn't sound like you to go and buy some take-hands. I bought them very cheap when they were new. Okay, right
Um, very cheap at the time that BMW makes a forceful chip. Oh, really?
They said different. It's not just one level. That's two levels in front of a Porsche lettering. Really?
He's unreal and they're not even they're not even silly money for what they are
500 mile range one, which is um, it's called an m-sport plus got everything in it. I think it was 60
62 free grand. Yeah, which is a lot of money. Oh, yeah for those things listed about 130 grand those poxy take-hands
Yeah, we lost a box to call those called us nine one eight or seven one eight seven one eight box gts the electric
Version that because the new model was going to be that and the came was only the electric been canned. Yeah
Oh, they canned it completely. All right. Okay, and um, the the manufacturer in Europe are reversing our EVs
for scale
What what did um, that was published last week?
You and the car manufacturers had to rise 65 billion euros last year
Porsche lost VW fortune, isn't that? Oh, they're finished. Let's finish that completely. Yeah
They're still be nice and finished at this dangster. Their profit margin was massive on Porsche. I think it's down to 1 cent last year
Yeah, they were the they've been like the coolest brand in the year
Voting the coolest brand in the year however many years
They actually I was a weird thing happened a number of years ago when um,
Porsche bought um, all those big sway the VW group shares come to market and for about three days
They were the largest car manufacturer in the world. Hmm. It's Porsche
And of course that all got revered and then then that's went bad to Toyota, right?
Yeah, but the whole thing's just a mess. Yeah, but there's no job. Yeah, we we come up with legislation
Do you have have you ever watched a thing on a youtube called harry's garage? Yes, right?
He's as an interest one this week about how much will the manufacturers have lost
He did one about 18 months ago when he said the politicians made legislation without talking to the clever people first
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know come up all this bullshit
Religistation, this is what we can do. This is we will save the planet. We can do this on the other
But they need to talk about what's achievable
So in america, I think you know come at this thing called a range eccentric
We got a little engine that's running a generator the whole time
So you got like 700 mile range from the fuel tank of that on the electric bar
And I think possibly hybrid but when the hybrids I think a range of does about 70 miles
So it makes it just right for the tax ban, but then they put a tax up on them
Uh, the BMW got a 50 e 50 or 50 e x 5 similar thing just gets into that tax ban
When they do 100 miles on electric
Then you've got if you've got a journey you can
Fall back on petrol or diesel power then they're more realistic offering, aren't they? And I think it will come
But these 500 mile range of these cars fantastic. Yeah, but then makes it, you know, it's actually a sensible option
Yeah, there's no the only um electric cars have been sold probably a cheap nasty chinese or in the main chinese cars
The rest of them are company cars. Yeah, and after the last budget
I actually said well, see if I said don't order any more electric cars
So why is that six now next time I put the tanks up in a minute that the blokes say well
I'll see to pay a little bit extra tanks than petrol so news left holding the baby with a load of cars in worth fuck
We are yeah an electric cars as well problem with electric cars now and any new technology that you're going to get involved in if you want to have
Self-dependence. What's the what's the word when you want to be independent?
You want to be an independent you want to you want to yeah work on it yourself? Oh, you can't work on anything
No, you can't anything. No, that's that's the other thing with the
The I said an absolute the whole thing is an absolute joke and you know people say oh for us, you know
He drove brexit
He did thank god. He did and there was a lady speaking ever like you who was part of that team
But her family of fishing people last top which was a big fishing place in and suffer the most eastern point of the uk
um
And she said yeah, the only problem was the the conservators didn't follow through with any of it
You know we're still in this physical what is e h r or something when we have a human rights thing
What's that doing to us? I know
Certain european countries are not you're going to look at videos on pwn. I don't I don't have I don't have a
I don't publish it
But the same with the the legislation if they'd come out of a lot we're supposed to
But what's the first thing given into the you or fisheries gave into them on this that now
So we've got all their rules and now we've got no set of our rules on top
So we've got no rewards from being part of it
So we left but now we've got all the bullshit and no rewards at all
I say if we want to read
Read a store on youtube, I don't read
Um, I'm not patient enough to read. That's the problem. We're gonna have to pay europe 50 or 60 billion euros
So we're we're allowed to tender for defense contracts. Yeah
We'll get your fucking planes somewhere else. Maybe you don't want our planes. Yeah, we should be waiting for ourselves
Yeah, there's no other people in the country in the world got money
Yep, not gonna the on none of this is going to change there whilst we have a x human rights lawyer running the country
Yeah, so what's that? What's that dave and lemmy?
No, yeah, no don't worry with jury trials. Yep. Oh, well, there was a brilliant thing on
Another youtube thing which obviously i quote youtube all times as i watch where he was on
Like mastermind or something like that right and he's answers. It was like a three-year-old answering
This place would definitely prime minister. That's scary. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know
But that is the scary thing now the level the standards remember the nineties or whatever like the early 2000s
Politicians would get a lot of flat, but you know, they're decent politicians. Yeah, I agree with that
They can hold the road and they can hold the road. Yeah, these politicians now. They couldn't even do an interview
But we're watching so my wife and I would do and she's actually got into a bit as well watching prime minister's question times
And when kemi bay not who i've actually got to like more the day after the budget spent
They've only showed a clip on on normal news. It was 16 minute in a real time in poland
Pulling the pulling retro raster bits
Yeah, so and the tune and carrying on and the interruptions from the labor back then gmp's
It's just diminished in the quality of parliament and now you've got that silly girl
He won the a denton and something Manchester. She dresses like she's now gonna
She's she's the presenter for cbb
I mean, what the hell is going on? That's lippler standards. It's just a joke. Yes. There's no, um, there's no there's no water in there
No, it's it's it's like a playground. It's like a playground. We've got what we've got
And I think, you know, that's such a bad job
But they just made it easy for somebody to look good in the future. Hopefully if they get enough votes to get
Yes, it's fingers crossed fingers crossed
Because it's a great country still yeah, there's much I've mowed about
I'm mowed about the the politics and how the politics have driven us and the conservatives did is no good
And I've always voted conservative
But I would never vote for him again now the damage they've done to this country
A laborer just
Exaggerated I'm like they've just let's see how much we can give away the layabouts. Yes, I encourage people to generate
They said there's no thinking is there if there's no people paying tax who's paying for the layabouts? Yeah
Yep, you know pips. What's it? Are you you can have one if you say you go to dox down. So you you're stressed
Yeah, fuck. So yeah. Yeah. Have a week off and sort yourself out and get back to work
Then I watch something last night
But I want extended paternity leave
Who do they think is paying for this? I mean what do they get a week off now somewhere?
I always said my but you want a week off you miss you said a baby
I said it's just when you want you want to stay away from me without I can't wait what statement
I got a face like a bulldog lit and piss off a thistle most ill-tempered. They're ever going to be in life
Do you want to be at home with them? Yeah
Let me leave the mother-in-law do that
No, we won't give months so they can you know be part of the family. Okay. There you go. There's the most right wing and
I'm for it. You know you'll ever do. No, I think no. I admire for it because I've just you know
Like so I'll get shot down in flames. No Jake. No Dale upset Jake some I've said another pain, but you know
The business is one thing. This is about my opinion. This is this is and I just I'll grow up
You know when it when Britain was great this thing I've mentioned earlier on they want to green areas in the camps and spend millions on this
in Ipswich
Um weeds everywhere and I sit this to another guy and he sent these pictures of floral Ipswich
My dad used to sponsor it be flowers on every roundabouts hanging bars. He's a real the place looked a picture
It looks like a third world country now
I know and they spent a million and a half quidips if I count on this giant chrome
Almost got a pole. I mean that's got a screen that probably you can't speak to me. You can see a bit more over the world
Yeah
Fun to do that for you. We got walk through the town center. You can see everybody more round the way
That is true. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and I said to you I'm not race. I don't care what color you are
Good, I'll boy. You're a twat put in in my terms, but we're important. We're not in even our chat
I'll see if I saw if you're you're wrong. These, you know, there's lots of good people come over on those boats
If they were good people they were doctors and that teaches them
Why do they throw all their credentials away before they get it? Of course if you're a doctor or a teacher you'll say
You better let me in. I'm a doctor. Look. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a doctor
It's a fucking robot. It's not an easy ride. Yeah. Yeah. What's the latest thing a stupid woman came out with?
Um, we're going to give him 40 000 pound a go when we deport them to go. Oh, well, that won't really stop them coming in, won't it?
So it's it's a yeah come in don't like it. Yeah, if you leave they'll give you 40 000 basically too. Yeah
Yeah, I'll tell you what if I was I'd be ordering so many and I
Maximum seat planes possible to ship them straight back where they came from. Yeah. Yeah, yeah
They're making the place dangerous or I have the navy in the Channel Islands. That's where we're going. Where is our navy?
Well, that's another interesting thing. Um, watching this, um,
On these 10 minute videos of Jacob Rees-Mogg
Um, shortly after all these came up about we can't send that ship
Uh, and he came up with 12 of our naval ships destroys or aircraft carriers
Some of them have been in in for service for over a thousand days. Yeah, jeez. Yeah over three years. Yeah
And uh, you don't see where the board is. So it's not necessarily the politicians. Yeah, it's the mod need looking at
Yeah, the money those guys waste not this. I'm very friendly with quite a number of guys who are in the paris
You know, they lost their lives and the short sorry. They've seen friends lose lives
And a chap where I go to the gym as you can see I only go occasionally
He's jake say he's mid 30s lovely guy went out there four or five times one of the guys who comes there comes there
He's got both legs. He's got metal rockers. We're rubbing. He's cloned. He's climbed. Um, is it scarper foul up in thing?
Well video is on my phone this bloke with no legs climbing it because he's determined to do it
You know, these guys served us and the guy from the gym was saying
He bought a house there's a new development client near us bought smallest house there
He said they've been there about three months. He got a house. He's lovely
He said I've got three afghanis living opposite me. No, don't go to work
He said I was being paid to kill those fuckers not long ago. Now we're giving them a house. Yeah
Yeah, because we feel bad for him on the table turn. Yeah. Yeah
Border patrol by the way, I'm so sorry about the navy
I have been to a few customers who work with the border patrol and work on border patrol boats
Oh, they're all parked up by the way
And I love the fact that we're going through what is essentially like a little bit of a crisis
And they're all parked up
Too expensive to operate by the way
The summers ago we had a big demolition job and low
Dover docks, but for many parts it wouldn't one big build or anything
I sit the chair runs with a lot come down anyway one day and they were like you somewhat taken
He said before you can say I know you can go short business
He said I'll tell you because you have a heartache. You should see him coming in
There's brand spanking new coaches. There's a lot and I'm almost like a visitor center. Yeah, they go in
These coaches tell them straight off. He said just ball your fucking piss. Yeah. It's a joke golf resort hotels
Yeah, follow from silence
The chap I think had the best morals I've seen on tv. He owns a hotel in
I'm going to say Devon all come were called counterlock Carson. You go gox fact. He was on tv
He was he was offered twice what full
Oh, yeah
If the place was full the governor offered him twice to fill up his summer turner
Yeah, he says been in my family for a number of years. We employ but from all the villages around it
All it's going to do is destroy the law and order. Yeah, and the the the the what is these villages now?
I think it's in common. You go go. It's a true story. Yeah. He said no. Thank god
Some of you've got some morals in this country a couple of quick rapid rapid fire questions as a finish up
Who do you who'd what business or who do you admire in your industry parts from lord bantford? Obviously and
Who's one one company you're doing it right? Who's who are you looking at in the minute thinking?
Do you know what they're bloody good? Um, I think companies like mj church
Um, that's a second generation business fund. We know tom church. We might cross his bed old and shake
He's far as a hard work and very hard work and man's style
I think if I write this my church started selling firewood literally. Yeah, we've been there
Right and tom's taken over uh and a bit like jake, you know, my band but there's this jakes is this
um
We've bought some really clever people in and the business has thrived great professional business
That would probably be the
Of the privately owned business another one is colin's earthworks. Unfortunately, Dave Collins is no longer with us great guy
Um, a really grounded hard working man
who achieved a fantastic achievement in his short period on 22 or three years, I think
Um, that's a travesty. It just shows. There's no god if not at that point
I've got cancer because he wasn't a very old man
Yeah, um, those two I think yeah the first of the spring one mj church definitely very super professional
Um, we're talking about privately owned business here. Yeah. Um, you know, you look at other business
business like bail for bd
Let's change our governance over the years of the last chapter is in charge just
Took it took it brought up, you know
another as a foreign company or from the foreign uncumbering
Um, but but ran that operated by the top man there, uh, vulkas. Yeah, he's a local guy actually
Volcker ground Volcker rail. Yeah. Yeah all of them. He's in charge of all of them. Um, great guy richard offered
You know for the bigger companies
I know in person I can't speak for the people who are in charge of balfors, but you look at their figures
I met the yeah the the last chap who's in charge
In monaco last year, but even he's since retired
But um, you know, it not since I even big big multi national companies multi whatever you want to call it
You need great leadership
If you've got a crap leader the company's crap because it starts at the top no work staying
Also starts the bottom works up as well
Yeah
Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, but I would say of the two of them
My knee jerk reaction would be mj church and and Collins earthworks very professional. Yeah. What's one trait every entrepreneur needs?
Keep working
I don't you know
I'm a weirdo. I said it from the start. I'm a very strange person. What would you what retire for you?
Enjoy what you do you want to have a tough play golf if you play golf or
Whatever you want to do or you want to have a few days off can have a few days off and get about to work
You know
I don't know. I'm a strange character get to work
Bloody work. No, that's it. Um
And and my father was Sydney somebody said you got to know your job and you got to work twice as I was a work student
Next year
And you got to keep doing that
And I get loads of pick my own semi-miss on the instagram. I try and beat myself out of it
By the way, what's the secrets as success as fucking know your job and just but don't stop working
Soon somebody's earned a quid. They think oh, well, I'll start. I'll get major up
We're by a we're by a place in Spain. We'll spend a summer down there. Yeah, fuck
Can you run your business when you're in spain? Yeah, that is clean for a week or two weeks. Everybody else does yeah
Oh, she do that. You can't be there. Yeah, you know, this business is thriving for you through
um
The modern views like I said to tom church as well
I don't know jakes 36 this month next week this saturday
So i'm guessing tom's 39 40
Brain that works in the modern era putting up with all putting up with and but also making
The things I think are a load of hassle use them to their advantage
You know, okay, we'll have all the machines with every latest safety thing on
You know hats off to these young people. I'm I'm an old dinosaur of the industry
But things have changed suddenly so you have to move on and I take my hat off to these young people
But then you've got to keep working at it. Yeah
You know, you can't stop. Yeah, why don't you stop you want to stop you fail?
Yeah, that's a bit like a bit like if you don't strive to move forward in business
The world's moving forward. So if you stand still you're going backwards. Yeah, you can't keep at it
If a business ain't growing it's fine. It's got great work. I think his sister doesn't work here
But I don't mention that much. She's a big part of it and as much as she chased the money
She's been doing it two years and I doubt over 60 days is miniscule compared what it was
Because she won't put up with any bullshit chasing money in she's on it. So, you know, they don't necessarily get on
Great, they're getting better as they get older. I think I've both got kids and realize
This is how it works
But she's a great she's a great part of this business. Well, we've got a great team of people as well
I've tried to find some, you know, built up a great team of people as well. You can't start a way man show
You cannot do it on your own. You know, if you can do it on someone on your own, you've got burger van
Yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean? For example, there's some wrong with people who've got burger vans on it by the way
But do you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, you want to build up a business where you're offering
You're doing multiple things. You've got to have a team of people
Build a dream right people and motivate the right people when you've got the wrong people
But people you can motivate them all you want. You're fucking doing no good for the year one of these ones
And the whole thing as well. He's looking at things in the long term
We live in a world now. Everybody wants to be a millionaire by Christmas
Watched him a picture on tv. Yeah 10 years ago as a footballers with a thing
And I don't know what it is now with tiktoks or something as the latest bullshit
Whatever it is you want to some that and hats off to people who've earned tens of millions out of doing stuff
And people with brains who invented some, you know, the latest high tech thing whatever it may be that everybody buys into and needs
but
For ordinary people like us. You got a graft. Yeah, you have. Yep. Simple as that. This is your boys. What turned yourself today?
Start we started
Half-five. Yeah, lovely. I'm sure you want to do that every day, but you've done it
It's basically come all this way talk to a twat like that. No, no, no. We're looking forward to it
Yeah, that's how I see it. But I'm a very narrow minded person. You know, that's just as I was brought drums and work work work
That's it. Hold on when I was a kid I could say on this other video that I did with barbie works us
I remember mum said we've got to take these kids on holiday and don't be dancing holidays are things other people have
I swear to god, that's true. We had two family holidays. That was it. They were both a disastrous old and that's probably another reason
No, one do you never want to go another day?
I think three or four days is about my limit. I've been away from home. Yeah
Miss my family. Miss my dogs. Miss my home. Miss work. Yeah
My second family's here spend most of my time with them. Do I spend more time with these guys here and new girls?
I do with my wife. Yeah
Yeah
Not necessary
I know
Yeah, so you've got a joy. I'm very lucky. I know you know, I'm the first time and I'm a lucky person you
You have to
Take the opportunities to come in life down here and I make the most of them
Yeah, no, no, but the same thing you start doing when a good come everybody wants to get greedy and fuck it up
No, keep on a little bit. But keep doing it. Keep doing it
Then you find another one and you can age you got multi laser pick you're doing with
We've I've lived and worked for two recessions and we've we've grown both recessions lay 80s away after that
We've grown our business grown dramatically because we already had this core of companies with people we've dealt with we've looked after
And and because in this country since you own a quit you've robbed somebody to do it. Yeah, well, you're not allowed to earn your money
um
Not business people don't think that by the way, but um people who aren't in business more closely
um
You've just got to keep going and be right be honorable. Yeah
There's a simple as that. Yeah, there's no god. There's no there's no silver bullet to it. I don't think no
Just got to keep correct team at it. Yeah and do your best
Yeah, I keep trying to be better than that and the companies at your compactors, which is what we try and do
Roll your sleeves up. Roll your sleeves up
I've uh, I've you've you must have seen I've been about six weeks. Really. I wasn't a bad place after the oa crash
Just put a load of machines on finders my sister and I were buying our brother a who's a druggy piece of shit
um
Buying him out just done a deal with barraho's put a load of teleowns on high. Yeah, we'll do the whole country
350 teleowns or filers didn't have filers to live
Well done
It's all gone wrong fucked all up
And then one night sat in the kitchen
They've one or two too many jeans and probably smoke 15 phase after them
This what dad did this session rock recession roll your fucking sleeves up and get on with it
Yeah, and just had an instant. That was a what they call it a
Mind-changing that was this light bulb moment a light bulb moment moment. Yeah, and that was it
So the next day I went in put the put the low load drivers money up and one had been with the longest said
Why have you done that? It's lovely. Why have you done it? Everybody's on short time. We're getting sad
That's because you can't gonna get us through this when you find out everybody else's machines are working
You come by and tell tony and we're gonna get to work and that piece is great two and a half times the size of three years
Wow
That's just a true story. Yeah
Because you carried on working. That's it. Got to keep at it. Yeah, don't keep at it
But you've got to move on to people you can't do on your own. Don't listen to the news
So you said that me sometimes stop what you come in early last year come here
You're pissing everybody off you're all down and talking it down stop watching the fucking news
So I just start watching youtube
But then unfortunately I start I've watched the political things on yeah, no the one good thing in the morning they have
It's it's sport live sport or something and then this um, they've got um, jeremy carl does it
Okay
Talk sport is talk sports on the radio. Yeah, and then there's talk tv. Yeah, it's just on on
On youtube. Yeah, because you can save it once on there. Yeah, and it's absolutely brilliant. Yeah. Yeah unfiltered news
Yeah, but that is the problem though with businesses look at covet for example
We did very well over covet because we sort of refused to believe it and we just kept we kept just kept going
It was it was we grew one of those old man who
Owns a company basically rather than going. No, no, I can't it went. No, this is our time. Yeah, this is yeah
Oh, we we closed for three and a half weeks. Yeah on the 24th of march, which was last Tuesday, I think
Um, the day after they shut all the pubs and restaurants
We got shut one of our blokes brings this home takes it takes over somebody dies
Well greedy bees man put money in front of loads and you know, I was sort of pictures now
I said to one of our guys that day. I said
Give me a picture of something to make me think what I can find my LinkedIn page tonight
And he gave me a revolver with one bullet. I'm sure too. So most of come up as a as a thing last Tuesday
um
24
No, what can't we can't lie?
anyway, yeah, look
That he gave me that picture
He was down at home was depressed cried in the yard never cried in my life from you never shut a yard
But dad would turn his grave
broken
Went home out of had a few too many G and T's and kept looking at his picture
And just like I said Dan, I don't don't send me a list of questions. Ask me what you want. I'm very much like
So just throw my in T's on my computer pull that picture up
As a family we take chances every day
In business we've now come up in some we're not prepared to have the chance of the
lives and health of our staff our customers
We're closing till further notice the plaudits. I got but didn't ever think about yeah
They've got customer bigger customer. What a wonderful thing to do. Yeah, it wasn't done for that reason
It was done because we were shitting us. Nobody knew what was happening. You know when we came back
That's six weeks. It was okay
And then all of a sudden when the government decided the builders motions could open up because that part construction
It just took off like a skull of cat. Yeah, I drove randied during covid. I know one supposed to go anywhere and I live
Oh
Three and a four miles from here. I didn't see one car. That's like I've been a nuclear holocaust. Yeah, it was it was scary
Yeah, it was scary. We had to move not just for me for everybody
Yeah, yeah, I was living in east London and we had to move and I had to get to king's cross
So we could move out of london and um, it was like a ghost town weird
Being a king when he weather at king's cross or st. Pancras and there's no one there
Well, that's what's happened over here. That's quite busy. You know some busy roads about the age of 12 goes through
And we're lucky but we didn't lose anybody who mentions the families that lost people
Yeah, there you go. There you go. Well, thank you for having us. All right. No, no, thank you
Thank you so much for getting up early to come see our miserable old bugger like me. Yeah
Um, that's just as well. He's being filmed now. I've got a face for radio
My missus says what did somebody say to me the other day? You've got a dog. You've got a face even a dog wouldn't lick
But no fishy. Yeah, it's been really inside my viewpoints not the company's view. Yes
Well, we'll send over a, um
Copy wait, was that ever a copy there's anything that you think that's too much will be
I'll be called by you without really
No, I don't think you know you live into those you're not joking. We've had
We've had some vignanated people on before we've had all sorts of I don't think I don't really know not at all
Occasionally I accidentally give out family addresses and oh god. What else have I done?
Almost got myself incriminated myself with some while I was driving and yeah, yeah occasion it so
No, we know not at all. No, I don't I don't remember saying anything that way just you know, just we need to get this
We need to put the great bang. Yeah, that's just as simple as that. Yeah, it's a shit show at the moment
Yeah, I know I know and they really is and the more you try and do something right the more they want to
I'll detect you for or make it difficult. We've just paid
um
We've every year my mom managed to look we're not I said to use the expression. No doubt. It's one of his
We're not oil banners. We're not firm stars. He's you got to give a bit back. He's some rich rich people, right?
So every year you're about 100 grand away for local charities got fed up got fed up with national charities
um, friend of ours the knee surgeon where his house for dinner one night 2015 it was
Yes, it was 2015
late 14 only 15 and we sat there and this one was a he's a knee so
Quite a revered knee surgeon. Anyway, he um, he can need your help costs, right? Okay, what do you want?
He said we need to raise somebody's new cancer Macmillan cancer
unit Ibswich hospital
It's right. You know, I've got all the funding for the bill. That's all done. You know to help run it
It's okay. So we'll give a car. We'll give a car to be raffled off
He said it's quick. My dad did it years ago when I was a kid
But I was trying to save money
support our scanner sos
Trying to raise money for a scanner and it's for choice. But anyway, you found me on the sunday
We'd all had plenty of wines. Did you mean what you said? He said we'd had plenty of wine
So never joke about money. You can say they have a pest I am. I know what I'm saying
Anyway, um, we all had a good laugh this Sunday on those you do
anyway, um, it's lovely
You said, um, I'll be in touch with only part of it. So he said could you come on Wednesday or Thursday morning at 10 o'clock
To meet the other chairman of Ibswich and Coltson hospital or NHS trust or whatever is and the lady's in charge of
Macmillan, okay, so yeah, we go
And um, I said to the ladies to look without being cocky. I see he's made right a checker. I've got no time
I said, I'm gonna hear them. We're gonna buy a car
for you to raffle off
Okay
Anyway, I moved on a bit took three months to get it through the lottery commission at a certain level
That had to be under 24,872 pounds swear to god it's something like that
um, as a private, uh, lottery some
swear to god i'm telling you the truth. Anyway
What can we buy and bought them for not by them? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh crap come with it
It was an Audi a3 diesel sport, okay
And lovely so I said I'm gonna buy a brand new car trailer and we'll have a stick it up and we'll take it round
Any events around here try and sell more tickets
So as it was launched on our standards, so we showed
Uh, our county show and what I've been caught about got a really good position
We've been the same place for 30 years right next to the main ring. There's thousands of great water past this
So it's gonna be launched on the cars there loads there for Macmillan
Um, I see we walk out of there. She's under a little gazebo. I see walk out in some of the tickets. No, we can't do that
That's illegal
I said you what no, we can't do that solicit some of the tickets
I said you turn on time you find me a policeman
It's gonna arrest you for selling pound tickets for a cancer charity to win that fucking car
Anyway, she wouldn't do that was that we took all around the place and it ended up raising like 12 and a half grand
It was a fucking embarrassment. So I stopped doing it. So then a friend of mine
Everyone the lady who I said I thought she's got this cafe. This doesn't make money a great place
She's starting this I think or gee whiz she got an mbe for
When Bobby Robinson of England football manager, he was also it switched to town manager years ago
And he's and he's his family. He's why I still lived in it
And he died of throat cancer poor man and they were stuck this time
Charity in his name and I was gone. No, she took over raised a million I've quit
Which so right double Eugene no costs. She's doing it. So very clever one
Did that for a few years and um, the last one we did was uh
That was just before came the last one we did with her just poor covid a sensory garden for a severely handicapped
You know, this is calling the trips and there's 84 or 5 young kids there
So you come up and say I said, you know, I thought I'd go I'm quite a scenario. I'm a bit of a wet blanket. So all these kids
Call it to where?
Anyway, um, I'll give you 100 grand towards it. Well, then of course covid came it took that took three years to do
What it called it she got charged was too much. I said, you know what we'll do the do it ourselves
No, I don't blame I've had enough of doing it anyway. No, so it's should we can do it see
You can have a BMX track built in Kesgrove. I live too. I used to live two and three mile that direction
I now live three mile that direction. This is my life around here
When the local cancer great low immense dirty on great woman everything's for everything's for round here
Oh, so that's lovely. So anyway, I don't identify an area
Um, a nice private house and stay over there. It is waste ground. They do park runs on a
Phone by the council and lovely and community centre there took four years to get planning permission
Oh, right
so
It's nearly done now. It's just over the other side of the road down there
Put the fence around as we speak and a company from
But I don't wish they come to see and K contractors. That's all they do. They go all over the country building BMX tracks and pump tracks
all asphalt done properly
Uh, it's cost 50 something that would have done four years ago. Yeah, they're about
Uh, as you'd expect and John is even people have moaned about that
Oh, I suspect this is to help you get planning for a quarry. You put an application in for you
You can't if you're only brains, you'd notice you would do your homework
If we put this application in four years before we even thought about
Yeah, there's always some you can't do anything. You're not allowed to do anything else in the country
No, that's piss me off a bit. Yeah, people will think you're only doing something nice because
What do you want from it? Yeah, and it's not about that at all far from it. Um, the other thing this woman who was bloody useless
On this, um, Macmillan thing that made her a director
Great honestly is a joke
That's the joke. Well, you know what I was saying about public sector and charitable
organizations
They don't have the best the people running
another gravy train
So I think when you're taking when you're when you're getting paid a lot of money
And we bought a union jack JCB years ago
2010 or 11
Um, JCB had a paint up north led union jack and that was being auctioned off for help for heroes
So I showed him wife one night
Well, I hope you're gonna buy that
Her sister's got four boys ones in Afghanistan. So I don't know how many times still going back to the force all over
Still in the army now 24 years he's been in
Lovely young fella and um, I said, you know, I'm gonna fucking buy an old cup underground for that
Anyway, I think we gave 70,250 for it
And to go up the factory mr. JCB
um to
Give me the keys
Chat who's in charge of help for heroes to give him the David Brent big check, you know, like you had in the office
I still got the check in my bit in my thing. I'm and sort of machine
Anyway, um, but go home that night was sort of a missus
I bet he's a lovely old boy. We need help for our heroes, man
I see it's the biggest prick I've ever met. He thinks it's a fucking film. I start
I'm being helicoptered down to the county of all in London. I'm giving a guest speech tonight. I'm a guest speaker
What a twat
And then you look at the money they waste
And the wages he was on at the end of
If you earn an average character, you might as well nick a penny off a fucking shit shop counter in my book
Yeah, yeah in broad daylight in broad daylight. Yeah broad daylight. Yeah, that's disgusting. Yeah, but that's how I south
No, then what um last year 18 months ago
Coming up two years ago. Uh lady. We who finds a bear property
Um
Consider would um got building right show in office bikes have done normally boss normally by yards new. I think you're quite like this one
It's quite near
It was the iron lie building
Yeah, like a cool
It's all right. Well, they sell that wine very old. Well, that's 16 years old. We had machines work on the main one
Did the brick work on it?
Anyway, got there and his chat show was round. Oh, well that guy. How are you?
Oh, that man. How are you till I know?
But he's one of these people you see but I didn't know not to have been disrespectful about the man
And um, he showed us round
What's the smile? No, it's too many people. That's what it is. It was built for a 75 a year people to work in
Lovely lovely two-story brick office floor. Anyway, um
All right, how many work now? Oh three since covid
Oh, and they had this new air exchange unit
But in Cardinals what that cost changed the air in the building in the rooms every four times an hour
Because it's airborne. That's what I was supposed to be
Anyway, I've got a picture I'm going to show you and they had a little single-story workshop on one end where they serviced
Outboard motorists like little workshop and if all you see there's mess rooms everywhere lived
You're never seeing like this problem. God knows what it cost to build today
And at the end of well, I'm like an old jackpaw. There's always something to do looking just sweet
There's a little young Heinrich two and a half ton electric forklift at the end
All all the bought ways all property. We're a little yellow line round at its own little park and bay
Anyway, I walked over and looked at there's still a little mold and tits on the tires. Yeah had never been used
looked on a place 10 years old
So anyway, they want one point for him and I said, I'll give a million a quarter, but I want the forklift
Yeah, yeah
Anyway, she can't make sure I won't accept that and the forklift doesn't belong to him. That's on lease
So I spent on lease for 10 years never been fucking used. Oh my god, that's horrendous. Anyway, I came back on the money
We'll accept your money
Um, but they could they need the money
So I did well they need the money
Well, everybody stopped giving money to him because the first thing you see on news then pulling these these illegal immigrants out of the channel, isn't it?
Yeah, so fair enough. Anyway, I said, I come and have a look with that. I'm busy. Just come and have a look
Anyway, he came up with me and I said there's this six wheel
MAN dropside truck with a big the biggest hive you could put on a six wheel truck
I said, I've got a thousand pounds says that's never been used. He said, you know, so you can't have a look at the hook
Right incident. Yeah, the paint was still on the hook. Wow. The truck's four years old. Oh my god
Bollocks, it's some zilt waste and other people's easy spending other people's money. Yeah
Which is why we did this BMX thing. That's the couple for all the for all the negative thing
I'm still glad we done it. Yeah
The chap is putting the fence around at four o'clock this morning and he said, do you know what?
He said, oh, well, bloke said to two kids here. Um, just bought a zero packing up five o'clock yesterday
It's what your bloke's doing leaving off at five o'clock. Anyway, he said, um, he said
Can we have him coastal now? It's not open yet. And they these two kids. I didn't say I don't know
I said, we've got eight quibbitons. If we give you that, can we ever go on the track?
How cool is that? So yeah, both of the kids will enjoy and they'll keep them off of off computers and
Yeah, you want a little plaque there built by
Yeah, yeah, but then some of your piss on ice Britain. I knew there you go
The negativity actually motivates me. I always have stunning business. Yeah, you know, it's right for you. He's right
Me. Yeah, I'll go under a fucking days work. Yeah, you've got the same option
Which opens the school we motocross and on a Thursday our track called mill nor was about 50 miles man
His mother had taken names. Well, where's guy? Well, he's at work. I never went any of those days
He's to when she first had a phone phone. How's he getting on? She's not fucking phoning me
So I'm not there, am I? I'm worried that actually he's riding a bloody motorbike
But fortunately he stopped doing that the moon. Yeah, but um, yeah, he's what he's showing me. He's not here today
He's gonna he's going to america. Yeah, he's gone on holiday. Yeah, he's actually on holiday
Yeah, he's wife. So they she went past me and he's gone over there for a few days
That he deserves that he came home from LR's Monday night while she's away
I mean and stop you didn't get it till seven o'clock come straight at me because I didn't see him on the camera
It's where I know I know he's still there some look at the cameras
Defenders part out there
And then what is there the phones going all the time?
Which I went through that but we had a bit more reward when I was his age
Yeah, of course there's a lot of effort for a small reward, but hopefully the better days will come. That's what we all hope for
That's all we could do. Just keep working. Yeah, keep at it. Keep about it and hopefully I'll turn and we can you know
A bit more common sense will come into it and we'll earn some money
I'll baby rape on anybody and you know, see how much you can earn but
Earn a reasonable return for the effort and the money you've got invested
And the same with farmers that's a disgrace when I said earlier they're building fucking solar panels
Put solar panels all over the some of the best farmland in this country and then we go and import potatoes. Yep. Yeah
joke
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Guy Nicholls lays out a blunt, work-first view of business survival, arguing that leadership, loyalty, and relentless effort matter more than polished theory. He rails against UK taxes, regulation, crime, and net zero, while also defending apprenticeships, practical education, and reinvestment. The conversation moves through roadbuilding, EV economics, infrastructure failures, and the realities of running on tiny margins, with plenty of stories about charity work, machinery, and the long-term grind of building a company.
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In this episode of Talkin’ Shop, we sit down with Guy Nicholls, founder of Tru7 Group, to unpack the reality of building a business in one of the UK’s most demanding and competitive industries.
Guy shares an honest, unfiltered perspective on what it really takes to grow and adapt—diving into the decisions, risks, and mindset needed to navigate constant pressure, push forward, and respond to the growing demand for change across the industry. We explore how Tru7 Group has evolved, the lessons shaped by both success and setbacks, and what it truly means to build something sustainable in today’s landscape. Guy also opens up about leadership, accountability, and the importance of having the right people around you as the business scales.
Whether you’re running a business, looking to grow, or simply curious about what happens behind the scenes, this episode delivers practical insight and real-world perspective.
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