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Bunch of calls coming in.

Let's go right to California and talk to Jeff.

You're on the Under the Hood Show.

Jeff, what can we do for you?

I have had a problem with the Honda Pilot and I had a solution to it.

And I just want to share this with all of your listeners.

And I'm not sure if you guys cover this on your show or not.

But the service bulletin was sent out by Honda for an intermittent failure

with the keyless entry in the TPMS control unit.

And what's happening is you'll park your car in your garage or somewhere

and the alarm will just start going off intermittently.

Their solution is to, the service bulletin is to change that unit,

which will cost you about $1,000.

But I got on YouTube and did a stellar YouTube for a solution to this.

And there's a guy on YouTube that put this, the board under a microscope

and he found the problem, which was the one chip is not covered with that

protective film and it collects deposits between 10-1 and ground.

And it'll intermittently lock and unlock your car doors and set off the alarm.

It's just enough millivolts that it senses that somebody is trying to steal the car.

And so your alarm goes off and the solution is just clean it with alcohol

and then cover it with fingernail polish.

We are sitting here all of us in amazement.

I don't know about Russ because he's probably done something like this.

This sounds like a crazy person who Russ should meet.

And all I can think is Chris wants a microscope now.

I should have thought of that, too.

He made a symbol over there like, yeah, Chris wants a microscope now.

For sure. That's awesome.

You cannot see the deposits with a naked eye.

I haven't tried to put two magnifying glasses together and you still can't see it.

But I went ahead and cleaned it with alcohol and a cotton swab,

coated with fingernail polish, and it's been fine ever since.

This thing was waking us up nightly.

It would be in my garage and the alarm would just go off.

I think at some point we had somebody call the show about this.

Did you, where's that module located in that vehicle?

It's underneath the dash behind the glove box.

And it's in a plastic container, so you have to take that out and break it.

Well, I'm not breaking it.

There's latches that are very tricky to get undone before you can pull the board out of it.

That is awesome.

I mean, we'll have to put that.

Interesting.

We probably need to put that up as a short on our YouTube channel, too,

to give people another way to find that out.

Because if they're not replacing it as a safety recall and you have to pay for it

because it's just a bolt and like, hey, we found the problem by the part.

A thousand bucks for one with a few drops of nail polish.

Yeah, that's that's awesome.

Jeff, thanks very much for the call.

Well, there's, yeah, there's, there's several things like that

that the dealer has released that are out of warranty.

They'll say, oh, here's the fix for it, but you've got to pay for it.

We built it wrong, but that's OK.

We're not going to cover it, unfortunately.

Russ, do you have a microscope at the shop?

No.

We can start harvesting these modules and then you could open them up and.

I got one at home, but I don't know when to shop.

And then we'll just do a little operation and we could resell them.

Can we get an iPhone one?

Can we get one of those that attaches to the phone so we can see?

Here's where Russ knew that Chris would find a high interest in this.

Run it through a pipe or something.

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Let's go to Landon in Ohio.

You're on the end of the hood show.

Landon, what can we do for you?

Hey, guys, I'm a long time listener.

Probably two or two or so years now.

Cool.

But so I have a I have a 1989 Chevy K 1500.

And I've been having this weird issue that I cannot put my finger on.

But it's a 350 TBI.

And it's the only thing done to the motor is the has

like the aftermarket carb style air cleaner.

Instead of that, the long black tube one.

And the previous owner said it had a very mild

cam installed possibly and the head's done, but there's no proof.

But sometimes it'll rev up and down up and down at idle.

Sometimes it'll drop the RPM when you come to a hard stop

and like almost stall and once it did stall.

And if you're in park, it'll rev up probably like eight

hundred or nine to eight hundred or nine hundred fifty RPM.

And then it acts like it has a backing leak, but it goes away and comes back.

And it's been doing it ever since you had the vehicle.

Yeah. Yeah, I've had it probably.

Six months or so.

Did the previous owner tell you that it did this?

No, he didn't really realize it.

I didn't do it until I got a home.

You know, he might have been in enough euphoria that you never noticed it

right away. That's that does happen.

I've done that.

That's great.

Look at this nice truck.

Oh, it is super clean.

Ross Free. Well, in these trucks, you know, you talk about eras,

but I just I had a guy from our area recently on the phone

and he likes to ask me some questions every once in a while.

And he's kind of went ham on.

He just told me gathering these trucks.

He's got a whole bunch of two wheel drive short boxes

and he's got a whole bunch of two wheel drive, full size blazers of that era.

Blazers and blazers and Yukon's that they made.

And I was surprised how many a whole much was.

But he just said that the square body phase has gotten so expensive.

It raced up so fast that people are a lot of them

can't afford the price of admission.

Right. And these trucks are starting to grow.

The following, I know Russ, they're they're taking off them and it's kind of crazy.

But that motor, I would be curious how much cam he put in it,

because if he didn't have the computer adjusted enough, any cam, that would be a problem.

It's not a stock cam in one of those because they don't have a mass airflow sensor.

They're running a map sensor.

They're they're going to they're going to surge.

They're going to run bad like that.

And if even if you change the exhaust, you take off that factory catalytic converter.

If it's got a straight exhaust on it with no converter, it can cause it to run that way too.

And both of those things together equal it needs to be tuned.

And you're going to have to find somebody that can tune it,

but they're going to need to know what the specs of the engine are.

They're going to need to know what cams in there the whole bit so that they can put that in.

Now, an easy way to find out if it's got a cam in it or not, it still takes some time.

But depending on the accessories you have on the front of the motor,

it might be as simple as just pulling off the balancer, taking off the water pump

and taking the timing cover off.

And then you when you pull that timing chain, the top gear off,

there'll be numbers on the end of the camshaft.

It'll be stamped.

You know, it'll say 262 comp cam or whatever will be right on the front of it.

So you don't pull the whole cam out.

That's the easiest way to find out if it's got a cam.

So you get that, you write down the numbers and then you write down.

OK, it's got straight exhaust on it with mufflers, turbo mufflers or glass packs.

It doesn't have a CAD on it.

I'm assuming it probably doesn't if this guy's mess with it.

And then, you know, whatever else you know that's been done to the motor,

you send that off.

There's still a couple of people out there that'll built burn chips

because they have chips in an old burner and they pull out all that

information in their computer and it will program a chip.

And then you just snap it into your computer and it's done.

It's that simple.

Just plug it in.

Another thought, Russ, EGR was a huge problem.

Yeah, just let's go back to the base problems before he's we went.

We jumped right to that stock.

Yeah, we jumped right to that comment about the cam.

Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. What would you do?

Yeah, if it's all stock, unplug that EGR, put a golf tee in the hose

and see if it goes away.

If it does, you're going to need the EGR valve and the little

actuation solenoid on it as a pair, which is very affordable.

Doral products has them. Yeah, as a kit, you can get the whole thing.

And you might just do that anyway.

Yeah, yeah, because of the age, if it's still got an EGR.

And then the other thing is set the timing with the engine completely warm.

Disconnect the timing connector.

It's either going to be located under the hood under that little black

tee shaped box on the passenger firewall under the hood,

or it's going to be under the passenger side kick panel where the glove box

area is and it's a brown and black wire, tan and black

that's got a little black connector on it.

You just unplug it and you'll hear the engine drop down an RPM a little

bit. That means and the check engine light will come on.

That means it's in the timing set mode and the timing is set to zero on those.

And then once it's set to zero, you plug it back in and shut the key off,

start it back up again and see if it changed.

And if it's still the factory distributor in that truck and it's got miles on it,

even the new ones are horrible.

I would what do you buy usually for us to replace one?

We've got one that we put three or four of them in and it's still

given us trouble. I just hate those things.

We'd like to replace them all because nobody makes a good one right now.

Standard, dormant, none of them are making a good one.

It's an off like WAI or some weird one.

So instead of putting new ones in when we are putting reman engines in,

we've been leaving the old ones in and saying, hey, we didn't sell you one.

So we're not going to be stuck.

But a lot of times you can get away with a new module,

a new pickup coil.

Make sure the bushings aren't loose inside of it and get new guts.

It's the magnets in the in the shaft that are the problems.

They lose their power.

Landon, thanks very much for the call. Good luck.

Is there anything that works in place of a golf tee?

If it's Sunday and I'm working on it and I can't get to a store

that has a golf tee and I need a matchstick bolt.

Something that you just plug it, plug it.

Yeah, I'll go in the kitchen and see if something from the wife.

There's something in there in the drum.

There's something in the junk.

Haven't listened to our show and then ran out and said, where do I find

golf keys? Yeah, I bought a whole bag of the run.

Yeah, they're cheap.

If you go to a golf course, go to a driving range.

There'll be hundreds of them in pieces.

There'll be bags all over.

I just said to unzip the bag.

You just need the top half, you know, the top part, not the bottom part.

They'll be if you do that, they'll be like, what are you doing?

You'll be like, I just need one golf tee.

I'm sure they'll just go get some shrapnel off the range.

I could walk over to any range right now and just pick up the top

one that's busted off.

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Let's talk to Brian.

You're on the end of the hood show.

Brian, what can we do for you?

Hello, I got a 2013 Ford Edge and I got a check engine light

and I got a PO455 code that's evaporative emissions leak.

And it says once I'll pop up, I'll say check the fuel cap door

or check the fuel cap, but it's one of those capless fuel tank fillers.

What do you think I got going on?

Are there any engine issues?

Surgeon runs bad or anything like that?

Just a code?

It's just a code.

It doesn't seem to bother on anything, you know, as far as rough idle

or anything like that.

More than likely it's going to be a canister and vent valve issue on the car.

They've had some canisters that crack around the seams and seep air

and vent valves that stick.

Standard motor products makes a really great canister and vent valve combination both.

I just did one on a Honda Odyssey yesterday.

It had some water in it from driving through some deep water

because the canister was leaking.

It wouldn't have got water in it if it wasn't leaking in the first place.

But you get those emissions codes when that happens.

Secondary is the capless fill system with dirt and age.

They can start to leak and instead of replacing the whole cap,

which was standard, you replace the whole filler neck assembly in there,

starting to sell a lot more filler neck assemblies.

I know we've purchased several of them from Dorman products, put them in vehicles.

So far, they've all been Fords.

They've been Fusion, F-150s, Taurus.

They just and it could be.

Well, they started putting them on before other domestics.

That's I think that's why it's good.

And these were older ones, 13, 14.

I was surprised when he said 13 edge and had a capless.

I just didn't realize in my mind that was like, really?

When he said that, I had a guy yesterday called me within 11

and he says he says, yeah, I got a problem with my with, you know,

I don't have a fuel cap.

So I have a problem with it.

And I'm like, oh, it's it's worn out.

And I was like, yeah, well, they've been around for a while

where you just stick the hose in there and there's no fill cap.

Because what do you mean?

There's no, who, who doesn't have a fill cap?

I said, well, you don't, you just told me it doesn't.

There's no, my cap's missing.

I need another one.

Oh, they want to know what kind of cap to buy.

And I thought he meant it was a right capless type system.

But no, he was missing his cap.

So there we go.

But yeah, you know, the secondary is the fill neck itself primary.

I would, I'd be leaning more towards that.

And the only way to know that 100% is to get a smoke machine and to

test it for leaks.

Smoke machines are cheap.

Every shop should own one.

Now you can pick a really nice one up for less than 200 bucks.

You can pick a one that works up for about 80 bucks.

So you should a shop should own one.

Brian, just quick for other listeners that may have thought,

what are they talking about?

Your, your fuel system is a sealed system.

And they have a vent system that lets that tank breathe so you can

fill gas and it doesn't kick back at you.

And then it takes any breathing of the tank through a basically a

charcoal filter and there's valves that meter when that should be

open and closed.

And that's the system that gets some problems.

And then it just, the system does itself test, which it does every

once in a while and it says, um, this isn't working right.

You're leaking.

And, uh, we, we can't let vapors get into the air.

And so we got to fix this.

That's what's going on here.

Brian, thanks very much for the call.

Good luck.

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Let's go to Oregon and talk to Mitchell.

You're on the end of the hood show.

Mitchell, what can we do for you?

Got a 95 Caprice and with a four, three V eight and a four

L 60, I think.

Anyway, I, uh, I replied, I took it apart when I had problems

starting with a couple of years ago.

I took the valve body out, put it into a solenoid, cleaned it

out, put a shift kit in it.

But what happens is when you put it in reverse, when it's cold,

it goes bam, right into reverse and it works great.

When it warms up, reverse slips and then kind of chatters.

Um, after it's warm.

And I'm just trying to get my brain straight here.

That has got the throttle body 4.3 that probably still has a, or

does it have a kick or a throttle pressure cable or is that

trance all electronic?

I'm trying to remember.

It's a, well, no, it has a cable, a cable that goes down

from a throttle body on top of the engine.

Cause at 96, I think it was when they went to the, the,

the mini LT they called it in the, in that four, three.

So you've still got the older generation.

That's, that's what this is, is the four, three, the eight mini LT.

But okay, that's fine.

So when it's cold, it's fine.

When it's warm, it slips.

Yeah.

It slips and kind of chatters.

If you're going back, if you're backing up a hill or so.

If you have put in a valve body and the valve body is

good and it was clean and everything was put in right.

And there's no failures there than that leaves one thing

basically on that would be that the seals, the lip seals in

that transmission for that reverse clutch are, are leaking

or the clutch is slipping because it's worn off as you're

applying pressure.

We know we've got, so we start off with a valve body.

Do we have enough pressure going to it?

Yeah.

Cause it works forward.

Is it good in reverse?

If it is, then you're applying pressure to it, but it's

bleeding off.

And because it only does it warm, if the clutches were

worn out, it's going to slip cold or hot.

But if the pressure is low, only when it's warm, then that's

usually seals.

The seals start to bypass them when they get warm.

Is everything expands a little bit?

Can't seal against that.

Yeah.

And it'll leak.

How did that fluid look when you took it apart?

Oh, it's great.

It's actually, yeah, it stays pink a long, long time.

Um, but that's why I took it apart is because it was

the same problem and I took it apart, cleaned everything, but

I didn't, I didn't know to look for the seals.

So are those accessible through?

No.

If you take the valve body off, oh, please don't say that.

100% tear down to get to it.

Yep.

But if you took a valve body off, if you took a valve body

off yourself and we're confident you got it back on

correctly, you could pull the transmission.

Yeah.

With a couple of tools off Amazon, you could take that

transmission completely apart yourself, look for the

failed parts and put it back together.

Watching YouTube because it's, it's not any more difficult

than, I mean, you've got to pull it out.

Yes, but it's not any more difficult than what you did

with the valve body and the, the ball bearings and the

whole bit trying to put it on while you're on the

ground upside down.

You know, you take that valve body out, you've got

that thing sitting up on a stand and you pull the

pump out of the front of it, you start pulling things

out one at a time.

They all stack in there and get yourself a kit.

I think the kits for those to rebuild them are still

like three, 400 bucks.

They're not that bad, but when you take it into a

professional transmission shop, they got a lot of

labor there to tear it down, clean it up, inspect

everything, put a kit in it that's going to cost

you more than what you're going to buy the kit for.

And then you could say, wow, I built this, you

know, it's, it's a, it's a Turbo 350 with an

overdrive unit on it.

And I did one on a, on a basically a really

dirty floor one time and it actually worked

pretty good.

Make sure you keep track as you pull stuff out.

Keep track, but also YouTube videos.

There are really extensive YouTube videos on

rebuilding those 700 R4s and 4L60s and Turbo 350s.

They'll show every piece.

You can, you can find them all out there.

It's not for everybody.

Don't be thinking, oh, he told me I could do it.

No, but it's something to do it upside down.

He heard what he did already and thought, you

know, there's something that can be done

here, but that first time you dump that fluid,

though, I was just curious what it was like.

Cause if that was super clean yet, you can have

clean fluid and saw these lip seals leaking.

If you had clutches burned up, that first

dump of that transmission fluid should have

had not so much debris, but it should have

been kind of stinky and gross.

Mitchell, thanks very much for the call.

Good luck.

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That's a UTI I got a I think

I might do that.

I think I'm going to.

Is it time.

I think so.

I'm going to just hang this

up and go do that.

Because because there's there's

jobs now where I don't have to

get down on a creeper.

Right.

I mean I could do yeah.

That's a that's I can

get I like getting on the

creeper and rolling around and

going under but they got an

engine hoist at most of those

shops that once you get down

they can just lift my.

Okay.

Well yeah then I'm in eight

six six five nine four four

one five oh let's talk to

Rhonda you're on the end of

the hood show Rhonda what can

we do for you.

I have a twenty twenty four

Chevy Malibu.

I got it brand new.

And didn't have it maybe a

week and I would go to make a

phone call and I couldn't hear

anything it was all scratchy.

I had to hang up and the other

person on the other end

couldn't hear me or if I get

an incoming call.

I occasionally will have the

same thing happen.

It's real sporadic.

There's no time specific.

In fact when I called you

today I had to hang up

because I had the same thing

it's all scratchy.

I've had it into my dealership

three times and they have

reset the phone or the phone

on the car and they have

did the updates on it.

And same thing.

And I've had it in three times

and now they tell me it's my

phone.

My phone is probably three years

old and they said well you

probably need to update your

phone it probably hasn't been

updated but it works in my

personal car which is a 23

and it works in my other car

which is a 24.

Are those other are those

other GM cars or are they

what kind are they.

A RAM Dodge Ram pickup

and a Subaru.

Those are 100 percent

different communication protocol

systems than the GM.

So it is possible it's your

phone but it's also an awesome

excuse when the when the part

it's not a GM phone because

they don't make a GM phone.

So when they say our systems

working fine how do you know

you don't know but I have seen

a number of phones that are

more than a year old that are

not compatible very well and

it seems to be more in GMs

than other cars.

I have my current phone is

three years old and it works

wonderfully in one of my GM

cars and works horribly in one

of my other GM cars.

It just doesn't half the time

it doesn't work.

It's doing what yours is doing.

And yeah it's the phone

because another phone I have

of my wife's phones in there

it works just fine.

A different model phone.

Do you have somebody in your

family that you could pair

their pair their phone to that

vehicle and and try it a

little bit.

That's what you need to do.

So so they did try it out

with the dealer this last time

that I had it in and like I said

it's sporadic it's not going to

happen every time but before

I had this car I had a 2021

Chevy Malibu and it worked

just fine.

That's an older system

completely different design.

One of the things all the

time on those with Bluetooth

one of it's the that was I

was just going to say the

the software and the firmware

of Bluetooth which is a

brand I mean that's the it

changes and goes so fast.

Yeah so they're the new

car that GM car they really

don't need to make it backwards

compatible it's only going to go

back so far and if your phone

only goes so new they will

stop updating it at some point

and then that's that's it you

can't go any newer than that.

So it's very possible your phone

that's why you got to try a

different one.

But Russ my dad has a flip

phone programmed to a very

new Corvette.

Yeah well that's a different

system blows my mind.

But here's the here's the other

thing too.

Any vehicle and any phone

let's just say it's a 2024

vehicle and a 2022 phone

depending on where those

vehicles when those vehicles

and when that phone was

manufactured and what protocol

they used in a vastly

different as far as what

method of Bluetooth you're

using because that.

And even in a GM car a Corvette

radio a Silverado radio they're

going to have different Bluetooth

systems in there depending.

Now if you've got look on your

hall under interchange basically

Shannon if it says here's the

radio this fits a traverse this

fits a Malibu this fits a whatever

that would be the same protocol

but if it says it fits this but

it doesn't fit the Corvette it

doesn't fit a Camaro those are

separate those could be different

units.

So the only way to try that

she can get this fixed is to try

a different phone you know maybe

a family members got one that's

riding around but you got and

it's inconvenient.

And let's keep in mind too that

Bluetooth on its at its

base is like a radio.

Yeah.

So if you're listening to the

radio right now on 92.5

it's not always going to come

in perfect on 92.5 and you

might so I mean you've got

that in there too.

Sometimes you just get a phone

that doesn't work all the time.

Rhonda I'm going to ask and

that's getting better.

I'm going to ask a controversial

question.

Is your phone an Apple or an

Android?

It's a droid.

OK.

Those are usually better.

Yeah.

Because I've I've had problems

with GM playing with Apple for

a few years with like their

automatic charging and stuff.

And there's all kinds of stuff

online that said there's some

compatibility issues with some

Apple products.

But the fact that this is

intermittent is frustrating.

Totally.

That it works all it works great.

It's almost like it goes so long

and it's like OK I've had enough

of this or this time I don't like

the way we connected.

Right.

It's just maddening and

it's a maddening thing for a

technician to try to fix.

Because all they can do if

they wanted to is replace

the communications module.

I don't know if they've done

that yet or not.

And they may or may not have

permission from General Motors to

do it.

They won't allow them to do it

unless they verify.

They're going to ask them and

said did you try a different

phone and say maybe they'll

just say yes we did and it

didn't do any good.

They may let them change it.

But a lot of times there'll be

a Bolton that says hey this is

a compatibility issue which

they should be able to dig into

and find.

And sometimes I don't if you

listen to the under the hood

show every single call is

someone who has a problem

with their car that is unique

to them.

You know what I mean.

My car every third time I

started it chugs.

Well not all the GM's and not

all the Ford's chug but that

one does.

And that this is just that

sometimes happens with those

phones.

I feel for it so frustrating.

Do you have someone that

could be with you and you

guys could do a bunch of

phone calling over a weekend

or something to take a

road trip and pair up a

couple of phones.

No.

Yeah it's my company car so

I can't take anybody with

me other than a fellow

employee.

Oh so I have to grab maybe

in my household phone so

maybe the company can borrow

you know a different phone for

or something.

Yeah it's my personal phone.

It's my personal phone.

So but you say possibly the

communication module.

Well there's a there's the

like you'd call it almost the

radio brain and it's got the

Bluetooth built into it and

that is the item that is

communicating with your phone.

That's what makes the

connection.

Let's see Rhonda thanks very

much for the call.

Hold on but keep listening

Rhonda I'm going to take a

call here.

We might have some help here.

Let's see.

Christoph you're on the end

of the hood show.

What can we do for you.

Hey guys I guess it's two

weeks for two for me in a

row here.

How you doing.

Very good.

So I can tell you I have a

personal experience with

technology support but also

this Bluetooth thing with the

car stereo with the phone

you guys are right on the money.

The number of variables that are

involved will drive you nuts

but the best thing you can do

is documentation and write out

the sequence of events what's

happening when it happens.

So you can keep track of how

often it is and it sounds

silly like keeping a journal of

it but it's like when you go

to the doctor and you say hey

this thing is hurting and

they're like okay when.

But number one thing that I

found is my old

Samsung Android phone

in a 2015

Buick that I'm driving now

suddenly decided not to do

text message notifications

anymore without any changes

that I was aware of but it

would still take calls.

So kind of weird

and I tried unpeering the

phone repairing the phone

didn't really get a

difference but I would get in

the car after not thinking

about it the next morning

and all of a sudden I would

get a text alert and the next

time I would get in the car

later in the day nothing.

So you have a number of

variables involved and it's

important to kind of line

those all up and see what's

involved so you've got a

specific car with a specific

phone but it's acting

intermittently weird so now

we have to track when and

why and what's going on but

here's what happened about four

weeks after my phone started

misbehaving with communication

to the car low and behold

Verizon pushed out a Samsung

update for my 2021 phone and

this was within the last six

months and I didn't think about

it at the time but ever since

that moment without changing

anything about how my phone

is paired and just assuming

I'll never have text

messaging in on my 2015

viewing text message just came

back and they've been

back consistently so since

they've worked consistently

it had to have been an

update I'm guessing from

Samsung Verizon on the phone

eventually that you can

enforce security update.

Yeah. Yeah. And I couldn't I

couldn't toggle anything

change anything go into the

admin developer deep root

settings of the phone and

change anything. The radio is

the radio the firmware is the

firmware the software is the

software and then on top of

that you've got the same

thing on the other end of

Bluetooth radio the firmware

for it the software within

the car that deals with the

stereo because it all pipes

the stereo and the

entertainment system now and

so you're not crazy and and I

can tell you at least as a

long time listener intermittent

issues it plagues all

technology but the best thing

you can do is document and

that way when you're having

conversations with people you

may be able to find some

common clues that will help

you sort it out. Perfect.

Thank you very much for the

call Chris. Yeah. It's that

one's and then that's not an

easy one. If you're somebody

that has been resistant to

updates on your phone. Yeah.

Some people are you might

want to update your phone. And

then if you're like me you

also feel like the software

update you shouldn't. I mean

it's a miracle. So why are

you complaining that every

other once out of every 50

calls is bad. Of course. I

mean it's amazing. Yeah. This

is the problems that we have

nowadays are different aren't

they 8665944150. This is

the under the hood show. Let's

go to Connecticut and talk to

Alec. You're on the under the

hood show Alec. What can we do

for you. Thanks for taking my

call. I have a 2008 Chevy

cobalt with the two two. And

I just recently bought it from

a co-worker for my daughter.

She's going to be you know

doodling around college with

it. So I you know I get the

phone call at you know 10

p.m. where it's a day it

doesn't start you know she's

200 miles away at a grocery

store. But the it's like this

intermittent thing as I as I

was talking to her. She'll

get in it and it tends to be

only one it's super hot

because it's been really hot

in the last few weeks here.

But she'll get in it. She'll

start cranking it over

crank crank crank crank

and it'll fire up for a

sec and then die. And she

did that like five times. And

then she called me. This was

like last night or night

before. And then as we're as

I'm trying to figure out what

I'm going to do being hundreds

of miles away. And you know

it just just fires back up.

And it ran perfect. And then

I asked her about it. And I

guess it happened once last

week. And I was able to

obtain the old records

because it's a it's a

co-worker's mother's car.

You know it's only got 70

thousand miles. It's a 2008.

And apparently I was looking

at the notes and it said they

had this issue in August of

last year early August. I'm

sure it was very hot. But I

was reading the notes from the

mechanic that they took it to

and you know it said I don't

know intermittent. They said

they couldn't get they couldn't

reproduce it in the shop and

they just decided to put a

new fuel pump in it because

they didn't know what else

to do. And then I guess she

didn't have an issue from

September. And you know I've

had it for about three weeks.

It seems it has happened

twice. But you know the car is

used more consistently now.

It's not only driven 1500 miles

a year or anything. So I

guess I don't know exactly

what I'm asking. But you know

like I guess what kind of

would have to happen is it

would have to just not start

permanently. Then I could

probably diagnose it a lot

easier. But I don't know

if there's anything like you

know there's something that

goes on with these vehicles

when it's hot. And I don't

know any any suggestions. I

can I mean my wife and I

always drive coyotes and we're

not used to these like my

other daughter drives a Jeep

and I'm like always fixing

electrical. I can answer this

and I know what questions

you want to ask. And I have

the answer. The question you

want to ask is should you

buy a car from a coworker for

your kids. The answer is

always no. And there's no

way around it. No one made

any mistakes. No one did

anything wrong. But you

it was a great price. Yeah.

That's that's how they get

you. And it's the world. It's

not your co-workers. Driven on

Sunday. And it's not your

co-workers fault. It's not

anyone's fault. That's just

a whole run any other time.

It's how the world works.

That's just you can't do

that. It's so funny because

I saw my first car at the

seventy seven Toyota. I just

get it started up. You know

it's all you know I don't

drive every day obviously but

you just get it starts

right up. Oh and you need to

be sitting there six months

and I never have these

issues then till the Jeep and

the Chevy. How far away will

the daughter be when she

gets to where she's going.

180 miles from the house.

OK. All right. So Lisa

starts eventually but you

know the fuel pumps are the

big things on those. The

ignition relays have had some

issues with those when they

get hot. They lose it. And

a lot of times when they do

that they'll set a code. You

can read the code and see

that it's set an ignition

relay code and you just put

a couple of them and

there's two of them there

one and two that just replace

them. But that'll be something

you could do cheap could also

have a crankshaft sensor that's

that's failing gets hot opens

up shuts down then cools off

and restarts. And those are

the cheaper things that can be

done. I mean if I was trying

to fix something for a family

member I just want to throw

some things at it real quick

I'd probably go buy a couple

relays for you know 30 bucks

40 bucks whatever for the

pair of them and and maybe

even get a crankshaft

sensor and bolt it in just

to see if it made any

difference because I'm

otherwise you're going to have

to get a shop they're not going

to find it because in a minute

they may not even want to

touch it to begin with

because it's not doing it all

the time might be some things

you could try on your own.

What did that use for coil

and modules in that car with

a 2.2 right on the top one

you should be one is that

that one unit that sat in

there yeah should be one way

spark isn't yeah but

they're always spark now

but well no they're not

always but they they it's

one unit one coil pack you

know instead of a because

they would fail when they got

hot. Oh yeah the quad four

used to be crazy when was the

last time somebody called

with a quad four we had we

had a call a month ago with

that very car quad four

engine I think so because

you told them about putting

the module in it.

I think that was the

different when I was thinking

of I'm thinking quad four

now OK for a joke.

But yeah it was doing

Somerset Regal vibes there

and the only thing we could

do is go back in time and

not and there's no where for

for it's just no way around

it's just how it I've sold

a car to a friend for his kid

and it blew up a week later.

I mean that's just all right

let's Chris look over the

negativity. All right go ahead.

All right. So you've got a

vehicle that's in good

condition. It's got good miles

mechanically. It seems to be

really sound. Your daughter

she probably liked the car up

until now.

He wants you to get something

completely different. Another

co-worker. OK. All right.

But I think that for

less than three hundred dollars

you could play darts parts

darts and get rid of the

problem. A really good

potential. That's kind of what

I was thinking. OK.

Actually it was online.

I took a look at a crankshaft

sensor. I kind of thought

Russell say that but I did

see there was a GM one for

sales like 30 bucks brand new.

You know wholesaler close out

and you know all that stuff

seems pretty cheap maybe

because it breaks all the

time. It's a lot of them.

Well you're talking about

it. You are talking about an

O8 cobalt. Yeah. Let's just

keep that in perspective.

But I have a seventy seven

there and it starts right up.

I'm like you're spoiled.

You're spoiled. You've had

good experience with something

else. You're good. I would

say start with like the rest

of those relays crank sensor

and then a module. And if you

did those three I'd be really

surprised. It's one of those

three didn't fix it. But you'll

never know which one it was.

It'd be like an ask our pit

stop. You switch everything

and it goes fast and they

don't know what they did.

Is it a seventy seven Celica?

No. It's a old Lankers or FJ 40.

That's that's that's why that

goes all the time.

Alec, thanks very much for the

call. Good luck. 866-594-41.

5 0. Let's go to Oregon and

talk to James. You're on the

end of the hood show. James

what can we do for you?

Well, I've got a we bought

a couple of 2000 S 350s with

the 7.3 liter diesel.

And we've we got probably, you

know, close to half a million

miles on them and they never

had any trouble until now.

And I loaned it to a loan one

of them to a friend. And when

I got it back, it only had

about one percent of the

emergency brake left. And I've

looked at that thing and I

can't really figure out how

the emergency brake works on

it. But I've been wrenching

since the sixties on on

Ford's and this doesn't

look like anything I've seen

before. Is this maybe a

dealer only fixer? No, you

can you can fix them, but it's

got the drum disc on the back.

Doesn't it disc brake on the

outside? Yep. Yeah. So the

inside's got a drum. You know,

I hate to say they burned it

up, but it sounds like they

may have left the parking

brake on when they drove it

and that diesel will

overcome that parking brake

very easily and ruin the

pads. So you got to take

the wheels off and take the

drum off inside of the

drum. There's a set of

shoes like regular brake

shoes and some hardware

like an old go cart. Yep.

And then on the outside, you've

got the drum. So usually the

drums don't wear out that

fast and it is the parking

brake. So you should be

able to just clean

everything off. You know, like

CRC parts cleaner, brakes

cleaner. It's really good

for all that goo in there.

Spray that on there. Clean

it off everything very

well. I like to hose down

the whole backing plate

because you've got asbestos

fibers and stuff on that.

So I just give them a

light spray to soak

everything good. And then

I hose it down and run it

into a bucket, get it all

clean before I take it off.

And then new pads are new

shoes back there and new

brake hardware. Put it all

back together and that

should fix your problem. You

should be able to

immediately see when you

get the drum off of

there. What the problem is

is like, oh, word, no word

of the shoes go. They're

gone because can I get

can I get those parts from

Napa or do I have to get

them from Ford? No, you

can get them from any

auto parts store that's

going to carry those parts

are going to be super

common. And for the

350, they're probably

going to have at least

two sets on the shelf

in their store. That is a

very common rear end.

James, thanks very much

for the call. Good luck.

866-594-4150. Let's

go to Nevada and talk

to Christian. We got

just a couple of minutes

here. Christian, go

ahead.

Hey, guys, how you

doing today?

Great.

Hey, we've got an O2 Chevy

Blazer, S10 Blazer. Also

previously I've had an O2

Chevy Silverado. I think

recently in those years

they come out with that

same rear disc brake

drum setup that they

have. And it seems on

these vehicles I've had

it's always a problem

keeping those drums

adjusted. Right now I

can't get the

the park brake or

emergency brake to really

grab. I could be on a

slight incline and just

roll it. God forbid I have

to stop with it. So I was

wondering if you guys

could tell me if there's

any other solutions,

modern solutions,

aftermarket solutions

or what's the deal

with those?

Well, they're only

made for holding the

vehicle. They are 100%

not made for stopping it.

So they are not an

emergency brake or a

service brake of any

kind. They will

immediately destroy

themselves if they're

applied when the vehicle

is rolling because it's

so thin it can't

dissipate heat in the

back that that pad

surf or the shoe

surface. So the fix

for it is new

drums, new brake

hardware and new parking

brakes, they've all got

to be clean because

with the old drum,

new parking brake,

they're not like a big

F 350 Ford for a

parking brake on those

which will slow the

vehicle down and stop it.

Was never it wasn't

intended to either.

They don't grab.

So yeah, you need to

replace the whole setup,

but they don't make

anything. They make

aftermarket parts.

Yes, lots of them.

But they're not any better

than the factory.

So if you can find

find the ones that are

most affordable for you

and replace, make sure

you do the hardware,

the parking brake shoes

and the rotor back there.

And I should get you

back to normal again

as long as the cables

are good. Christian,

thanks very much

for the call. Good luck.

Two in a row, right?

Never. And then two

in a row, two parking

brake calls in a row.

All right. Now we

believe we are on

the after show. I'm just

going to take it on

faith that we are

off the radio

and just on the

take it on the run, baby.

Take it on the run.

Oh, don't say we can't.

Oh, that was that short

enough. Are they good?

That's good. Copyright us.

Let's go talk to Dave

in Minnesota. Dave,

you're on the under the

hood show.

What can we do?

Hold on. I I miss that one.

Dave, you're on the

under the hood show.

What can we do for you?

Yeah, I love your show,

guys. Thanks.

I got a quick question

for you.

I have been a GM man.

I've had a 3800

all my life here, just

as kind of a work car

ran across a Chrysler

300C with a three

six liter, just

kind of wondering what you

think of that car.

The car itself is

very, very dependable

overall from our experience.

We see those come in here

that have been ran

pretty hard through

a few generations of life

cycles of where cars

get acquired and we even

have gotten they've gotten

old enough where we see them

at some of our impound

lot sales and stuff that

people have still been driving

them with lots and lots

of miles on them.

I would say the weak link

would be the engine at

some point.

But in that particular

model, not with the

problematic history as

as much as it would be like

in a Jeep or a

of Han or that

I don't know.

That just seems like pretty

pretty strong overall.

Pretty strong like an old Chevy

Caprice. They're the modern

day version of that big

where we'll drive heavy

good car.

They just seem to be.

Yeah, this is an all wheel drive.

So oh, but yeah,

you got a few more parts to break.

But can we turn them into race cars?

Pretty so.

I'm sure somebody would.

But the all wheel drive part

makes it a little interesting.

Does it make it better?

OK, well, it depends

what kind of fun you want to have.

OK.

No, I think you for a car

how many miles are on it?

30,000.

It's 2014.

Oh, 14.

Yeah, I was thinking older.

Yeah, that's a great car.

Yeah. No, no, no.

No, no, no. We'll drive.

It's got to be 14.

All wheel drive.

Yeah, like a challenger.

Yes, that's a pretty good one.

Yeah.

We simply people make some four

wheel drives on it like

jacked up four wheel drives

out of these.

They'll take the challenger or

the this one

and they actually make spindles

to modify where the CV shaft

goes through and it drops

it down like four inches

so you can raise the car up

and put some 35 inch tires on it.

Remember those we saw at the Seamus show?

I forgot all about that.

Yeah, so they they

they do all sorts of stuff.

These are a very popular car.

They were worth it in the after

market to make accessories for them

because they felt they were reliable

and enough people would buy them.

So that makes lots of parts

available for them and makes them

pretty tough.

There you go.

No, the way the wife ain't

going to go for a little lift.

And it's all tough to lift it up

and put some.

Yeah, what did you do to my car?

Don't tell her.

Happy anniversary, honey.

Dave, thanks very much for the call.

Enduro car.

Can I can I get out on the dirt track

with an all wheel drive and you could.

I just said they're not going to hold up

very well to the hits.

No, they're so thin.

That's true.

These new most car

Chris now are very there.

They're made to absorb energy

to save the occupants so they fold

where there was a Enduro race

at our local county fair

the other night.

So we were watching old video

of Enduro races

because a friend of mine had never

seen one and a lot of

Grand Ams out there.

A lot of Grand Ams still racing

in Enduro tracks and have you

ever watched a camper race?

Just online.

Yeah, that's what I

mean. They're there.

There's the big one that

pops up every year.

The night of destruction.

And I think the last one was

maybe last year they stopped doing

it because it was a it's so

hard to clean the track.

They have to take dirt off

in layers because there's so much

to free in the track.

My wife wants to see them.

They run.

I guess they run one here every

year that says the night of

destruction coming up the end of

August at at nine ninety.

So I had I'm not aware.

They did a couple years ago

where they race and wreck.

But if that's so I mean

she's into it.

But I I love I stopped

watching all those videos

because I would send them to you

with great ideas and you guys

would never go for my great

ideas.

Well, I didn't love your idea

you had that work are going to

take advantage of and I started

out with an experiment on YouTube

and it knocked off a thousand

views in like six hours.

And then of course it faded

like they do.

But we'll we'll have even

better ones.

But I just had to say, hey,

how much would that

worked out well?

Yeah, I'm scared to death of

that, by the way.

Shannon's like, what are you

doing during work hours?

I'm like, no, it's authorized

experiment.

Yes.

Highly classified eight six six

five nine four four one five

oh, let's talk to Alan.

You're on the end of the

hood show.

Alan, what can we do for you?

Hi, uh,

Russ, we talked about my

ninety seven Dodge half ton.

I was having the gurgling

in the heater core.

Oh, yeah.

The whole week to go.

Yeah.

I borrowed one of those

vacuoles.

The fans.

Oh, the top extended

sure.

Yeah.

And.

Brought home, put it all

together, put it on the truck.

Had the truck running

and it was good and warm.

Is up to temperature.

And it really didn't take much

if if at all.

Maybe a half a point.

How the point.

Yeah, maybe.

And I noticed that the overflow

tank was low

down about the fill line.

So that's not OK.

Fill it up.

Ran the truck down to

Sandhills in Nebraska.

I went down for the race.

I didn't.

But I went down and worked it.

And.

Pretty much it.

It ran its normal temperature

and I really couldn't tell

if it was gurgling or not.

I wasn't really paying attention.

So coming back.

I stopped.

Oh, Dunning, Nebraska

has full service gasoline.

Really?

So we came out and pumped it for you?

Yeah.

Anyway, got up to

fix down and.

Did another stop for gas.

And open the hood.

And let the truck cool down a little bit.

Something my dad always did

when he was on the road.

He just popped the hood open

and let the heat out,

which I guess is probably a good idea

work for him off.

And I looked at the overflow tank

and went, wow,

you're three quarters of the way full.

And that's normal.

Like three.

OK, you filled it up.

So when you added the coolant to the radiator,

now you've taken out that air pocket.

You've gotten rid of the air

so that when it warms up

and it expands, it should push out

into the overflow tank.

And then when it cools down,

it should suck it out of the overflow tank.

If it doesn't go both ways like that,

it's either not full

or you've got a poor cap

on the on the radiator.

And some of the caps aren't as good.

Our partner Motor Red makes

some really nice caps.

They've been doing it forever

and that would fix that problem

of the past back and forth.

So, OK, well, I got to go out that way anyway.

So maybe I'll just look at it when I'm out there.

It's it's in storage right now.

It got put away.

It's got another problem with brakes right now.

I've got a weak wheel cylinder in the rear.

So why there was no traffic out there.

Browsk is seven.

Alan, thanks very much for the call.

Good luck.

The what about pickup trucks?

Can I get a pickup truck out on the dirt track?

Why don't we do that? Is it just

a light in the back?

Do some drifting in it.

Get around to hook it up over the round.

An old camper drag campers around.

Those are races are great.

Get a let's get a bunch of 16, 17

year old kids get them out in the world of outlaws

with Knoxville Nationals when they're

just children.

That was a fun to watch.

That was fun to watch.

You had that thing on rails.

Yeah, it was the race was not for first.

In that never, never underestimate.

A child's ability to operate machinery very well.

You soon to forget that most of the pilots

in World War two and that were like 18, 19

years old and they were good, you know,

the older people just weren't.

I think when you're young and you

your your brain doesn't know you can't do it,

you can do it like the first guy to flip

a snowmobile off a ramp or a TV.

And those guys were just jumping off a ramp.

Then later, they said, let's fill a big tub

full of cardboard boxes so we don't die when we try it.

The first ones were were just doing it.

And then that's amazing.

So we heard your dad say you just won

the Knoxville Nationals.

What did he say after that?

Nothing.

He just said that a bunch of times in a row.

He just kept saying over and I'll go to your homework.

It was so great.

Yeah, that was fun.

Yeah, there's a lot of race fans around this area.

And I I don't always get a chance to watch,

but I tuned in that night when just the way

the lineup for the main was set up.

I thought it was going to be really quite interesting.

Mm hmm.

And that young kid races full time around here.

He's not within the world of outlaws all year,

but he races Knoxville regularly.

And when we had our Nordstrom's night at Houston,

he was running away with the feature.

And he would he had came down out of turn four

and there was a car pulling in that had mechanical problems.

And he just couldn't react fast enough.

He ended up riding him down the front straight away

on his back bar and he got himself disconnected from him.

But by then they had already called the caution.

Sure.

So they blended him back into fifth place with the blender rule.

I think it was fifth place and he needed another lap or two

because he was coming.

But, you know, he's been fun to watch.

And he's wrecked a few things like, you know, Doug Wolfgang.

Right.

My dad remembers him wrecking a few cars back in the uses days

go wide open or go home.

And that's the only way to do it.

But they it was just fun to watch.

He passed from eighth to first in his qualifying feature

and never had a car in front of him the rest of the weekend.

How about that for an 18 year old kid?

Yeah.

Wow.

And the race team.

Easy to win those.

And the race team originally was the race team out of Rapid

City, South Dakota, the Liebig Special, the Super 8 Special.

That was kind of the lineage of the family.

I'm getting that probably wrong completely.

But I know the Liebig's are longtime race builders.

I think at one time they may even own the track out

in Rapid City, the family.

And so they've had that going for a long time.

So Shane is one of the, I think, sons, not a grandson.

And so they've been around this for quite a while.

And that's got to be a big, big thrill for that family that's

involved on that car side of it.

And the family that's involved, mom and dad have been around

racing a lot, it looks like.

So that's some big excitement.

All right.

Anything else?

We're ready to roll, I guess, huh?

OK.

Happy birthday, Ava Rose, if moms and Ava are watching

today, she's my baby's 18 years old today.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That's weird.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

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