Hocevar's Met Gala Moment & Ryan Blaney's Life As A Dad
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flip
“Flip” here sounds like a strategy change—basically switching the plan at the last minute. The goal is to take advantage of how the race is unfolding so you can move up when it matters.
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pit
A pit stop is when the car pulls into the pit lane during the race to get serviced. Teams do it to change tires and adjust strategy, and when you do it can strongly affect where you end up on the track.
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Hey, everybody, I'm Dillon Hart Jr.
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First question, a few people wondering what you think of Carson Hosevara last night at
the Met Gala.
Listen, I think that was fantastic.
And the reason why I would have never expected a driver to be invited to that.
I don't even know what it is.
I think it's a little bit of a celebration of fashion and art.
Doesn't matter.
We, you know, we need drivers, not all of them.
We don't need them all going to this thing.
We need one.
We need one over here, one over there, and one doing this thing and one doing that thing.
I agree.
We need our drivers in these unusual spaces connecting with people that aren't connected
to our sport.
Back in the day when it was bad-ass to be in the Rolling Stone magazine, right?
I mean, that was a great opportunity for me, and I reached so many people, got to showcase
who I was to so many people that were not watching the races on Sunday, MTV Cribs.
I went and got to introduce Linkin Park during the MTV Music Awards.
Those were fantastic opportunities, terrifying, but at the same time, the door was opened
by Budweiser to be able to go to these different things and do a lot of fun stuff, go to, you
know, walk a boxer down the aisle at a boxing match.
I was a huge boxing fan.
Doing those kind of things are a real privilege, you know, and a real opportunity to get out
and not so much promote yourself, but really introduce the sport to a new audience.
And it adds a little, you know, it adds a little credibility to the sport where it had
none.
Absolutely.
You know, so it's good, and there's a, listen, I've read the social media, there's a lot
of fans that are like, hey, that's cool, he went and did that, you know, whatever.
There's a lot of fans that think, why the f*** you over there doing that?
I don't like that.
It doesn't matter.
Let the guy do what he wants to do and let him go promote and be where he wants to be.
He had a lot of fun.
I watched his interview.
He did a great job, represented himself well, spoke well, knew what the hell he was wearing,
seemed to have a real understanding of why he was there and what he was supposed to accomplish.
So I was really proud of Hosevar.
You throw these guys into those scenarios where they're totally a fish out of water
and sometimes it doesn't go that well.
But I think he did a good job.
So I was good.
What was your reaction when you got that Rolling Stone request and when they brought it to you?
Well, it was bad a**.
So, you know, I was proud to be able to take our sport where it wasn't getting access.
You know, we talk about, you know, I don't want to, I'm not complaining here or trying
to put anybody on blast and I might be incorrect in some of this statistically.
But there are times when, you know, we get coverage on some networks and then there's
times when those networks don't mention us, right?
There's times when we're front page news and some newspapers and sometimes those newspapers
totally ignore our sport, right, for years, dependent upon relationships we have with
different networks, right?
Forever ESPN was the leader in sports, right?
And so if you weren't getting coverage on ESPN, you know, what the hell, right?
We would always complain that, man, this bad a** thing happened in our race Sunday and
ESPN didn't even talk about it.
And so, you know, you're trying to, you know, you're trying to take the sport where it isn't
and get it in front of people that don't watch it and don't see it and that's what this is
all about.
So we need more of that, you know, we need guys hosting Saturday Night Live or whatever
it is, right?
That's a big deal when Jeff Gordon got to do that, you know, and we need, you know, when
motion pictures are made about our sport, whether it's a comedy that's poking fun at
us like Taladega Nights or a more serious movie, it doesn't matter.
When those things are being even considered, it says a lot about where our sport is and
the value of it.
So we need more of that.
We need those type of things happening.
We can't just do what we want to do in our little bubble and think that's really going
to be enough to get us back to the numbers that we all want to get back to, you know,
back to, you know, when the peak of the sport in the 2000s, we're way far away from that.
We've got to be putting ourselves in front of these folks to showcase what we're doing.
Do you think there's a day that's under us too?
Oh, yeah, there's it's happening.
Is it? Oh, yeah.
Nice. I'll be shocked if it doesn't.
Well, it is time for Reaction Theatre, where fans can call in and voice their opinions
from this weekend's race.
All right, I'm excited to hear from the fans.
Yeah, watching the truck race and listening to them tell GEO to listen to Freddie.
I was scared every Monday.
There's no way I'm trusting that idiot.
Somebody else text me that.
I was like, yeah, I don't know why they're saying that next next next.
Why the hell they listen?
Why do you listen to Freddie?
He finishes 14.
He listened to Freddie now.
Hell, yeah, go horse next week.
That's about as cool as taking a shower with dad.
Yes.
Yuck.
OK.
That's weird.
Hey, now, I don't know nothing about the waxing crescent
or the waning gibbets or any of that moon phases or nothing like that.
But my wife does because she is a Chase Elliot fan and brother.
She is gripped up to not hell.
Yeah, go now.
How's it going?
Well, it was a good one.
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Baby, can I get that?
Chase, that's your will.
Chase, that's your will.
He's feeling good today.
Is that you, Kev?
Yeah, yeah, that's my morning shower jam.
I'm glad the Chase Sexuals are happy to dance.
They needed a good break to get off Allen's back a little bit.
After a very boring Chase Elliot post-race interview, I think I finally figured out
the greatest celebration that can top those of ours when Shane Van Gisburg wins
that road course this weekend.
I think he's a fart in a didgeridoo.
What? What did he say?
Fart in a didgeridoo.
Fart in a didgeridoo.
It's like that Australian instrument.
It's like, ball, ball, ball, ball.
OK, that's interesting.
Yeah, do you think?
I've not said this in a long time, and I thought maybe Blaney could ever be the closest.
Do you think host of our could challenge Chase Elliot for most popular driver?
Yes. Yeah, there's a lot of hosts of our shirts.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
I mean, look, he again, I think it's another Cletus effect.
I mean, he's become friends with Cletus.
I think Cleveland is Cletus is sad.
Cleveland, Cleveland, Cletus, Squirrel, McNutt.
I think they've all sat him down and go, man, you got to like,
there's a big window of opportunity that you're missing.
I mean, obviously, they're really, really smart.
What they do with all the social stuff.
So I mean, I think you've seen since he's really met Cletus,
a whole different side of host of ours.
It's just, you know, I don't know that he'll ever.
I don't know anybody's ever going to throw a chase,
but if anybody's ever going to come close right now, I think it's him.
Yeah. And I think he could.
Doesn't mean I'm not going to be doing the same thing.
You got to get back, back, back, back.
Sound the horn.
Got it on.
I have no eyes.
I heard three words from Georgia.
So we listen to it again.
So we can use from Dawson.
We can get anything.
No, I don't think I mean, you just put subtitles.
But yeah.
Hey, girls, this is your friend, Pickles here.
I just want to let you know that I'm eating a toxic chip cookie
and thinking about Kevin Hamlin.
Love you.
I'm going to guess that's one of your friends.
I don't know a pickles.
I'm going to guess he might be a couple, three deep right there.
You sure you don't like you like chocolate chip cookies or something?
Who doesn't?
But I've never eaten a chocolate chip cookie with pickles.
So that you didn't know that was no.
You don't know. You don't go back with pickles.
No, I hope he enjoyed his cookie.
Might have been a guy he met at the bar.
Pickles and you wait out for chocolate chip cookies.
Thank you.
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All right, man. So got a chance to see you find the love of your life, get
married, had a great ceremony. Now you're a father.
What's the challenges today with fatherhood?
I remember waking up every few hours in the middle of the night, I don't know
where exactly you are on the path. It kind of changes.
Yeah, it changes every week. It could be seven hours straight.
You get a little of the rest or it's every couple hours. It just depends.
I would say Charlie's never been a great sleeper. He doesn't nap very good.
He don't sleep very good. I mean, that's the challenging part.
I mean, I think just getting out of your routine, especially right away, right?
You're used to this style of life. You know, no kid, you can kind of do
what you want, sleep all the time, yada, yada. And then just the shock of like,
oh, wow, this is just a huge 180. It takes a little while to get used to.
But then I think you get comfortable with that. Like, I don't mind.
Like if he's having a rough night, waking up every couple hours, like,
all right, that's fine. Like I'll go hang out with you a little bit and try
to get you back to bed. And I think the toughest thing for me, like,
and it's going to get even harder when he gets, as he's getting older,
is like leaving. Yeah.
It's way harder to leave the house for the weekend, even during the week.
Like if I have to go to the race shop for meetings, I'm going to be gone all day.
It's hard to leave, you know, but it makes up for it when you do come back
and you see them and they haven't seen you all day and they light up.
But yeah, I mean, everything has its challenges.
And I'd honestly think the most, the challenging, most challenging part was
when Gianna was pregnant and getting close to giving birth.
She had a lot of, a lot of issues she had to go through.
So that was tough to watch and obviously tough for her to go through.
But we're lucky everything turned out great.
But it's been, it's crazy.
I leave for the weekend for three days and I come back and he's a completely
different kid. Looks different.
That is hard to explain to people.
They haven't never experienced it. Nuts.
Because you're like, no, I mean, three days, how can they change?
Yeah. But they've got a new word or two.
Yeah. And they've got a new smirk or a mannerism.
Yeah. I'm like, when do you start doing this?
She's like, oh, yeah, the day you left, he started doing this.
I'm like, it's just like no big deal to her because she's seeing it.
And she's like had experience with this for a couple of days.
I'm like, man, it's just overload for sure.
Yeah. Have you been able to witness some firsts?
Uh, yeah.
First, we're starting to get him on to some foods.
So that's been fun.
Like he likes peaches, you know, like ground up, mushed up, you know,
not like I'm not giving him a peach meat, but he likes peaches.
Does not like bananas.
So that's that's fun.
Those are the only two we've tried so far.
I'll tell you, I don't know if you ever ate the baby food, the mushy peaches.
Dude, it's good. Oh, really?
What? I never tried it.
I'm sorry. Yeah, that's probably one thing I should have done.
It's just mushy peaches.
Like it's it's just like kind of liquid form.
It doesn't. It looks like a smoothie, honestly.
Like if you put it in a smoothie, it's fine.
But first laugh was kind of fun.
Like first belly laugh I got to witness.
And we actually got it on camera.
We were changing him in his crib and we got the little camera.
And so that was fun.
We were getting ready to give him a bath and like I was taking his stuff off
and he liked it and like first belly laugh.
And I started cracking up, man, and we had it on camera.
So that was that was kind of sweet.
Yeah, that was the coolest first, I think, man, you know,
because he was kind of grin, smile, but not really make a ton of noise.
And the first time he like cracked himself up, I was like, oh, that's pretty funny.
That's awesome.
What's your what's your dad like?
What's your dad?
I've been a big, big fan of your dads.
I just love the person he is.
And just wondering what he's like as a granddad.
Yeah, I mean, he's unbelievable.
He's great.
Like it's funny to see my dad.
Like, I know how my dad was with me, right?
My dad was kind of, you know, stern guy.
And then with Charlie as a granddad, he's like a mushy teddy bear.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's funny to see.
Did you look at him, you know, when you were deciding to,
when you were deciding to make these changes in your life.
So, you know, you've won races.
You've done things in a professional world
where your dad was a witness to it, right?
And you were, you know, you'd do you'd win a race or you'd win a championship
and your dad would be there and you would get to see his pride and his enjoyment.
And you get really, really, really enjoy that, I'm sure.
When you're making these milestones in your personal life, marriage,
you know, buying land and just trying, you know, doing general adulting, right?
And now becoming a father, do you allow yourself to kind of like watch him
and be proud, you know?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
And I think, you know, I've been really lucky that my I've had a great family
like around me, you know, and, you know,
my turn, my dad turned it into like the the race coach dad to like,
you know, he's still there a lot.
I'll call him up, get his opinion on some stuff on the racing side.
But like the last five or six years,
I'm kind of more pulling on him like, hey, what are your thoughts on this?
What's your opinions?
Like he kind of took a step back of being instead of calling me first.
Like I'll kind of call him first about some stuff.
I'm like, where are you going?
Like, I still need your help.
Like I want your opinion on this stuff, man.
So I think and I think that's just the I don't think my dad has ever wanted
to be too into like, especially now that I'm, you know, racing for a long time
on the cup side, he doesn't want to be the guy like always there.
And in the but and earlier in my career, he wanted to be there to help.
And now he's like, well, you don't need my help.
Like, but I, hey, I need it.
Like I wanted your opinion on this stuff and come to Martinsville, you know,
go stand in one and two.
And he came to Martinsville this year and the spring for practice.
And I was like, hey, go, if you want to go stand in one and two.
Well, I asked him, I said, what corner are you going to today?
So I might, I might watch the entry to one a little bit.
I might go watch entry to three a little bit.
And I was like, all right, well, come talk to me after practice and see what you see.
So I just think he enjoys me like growing my personal life because it's always
been racing, racing, racing.
That's all I ever cared about.
And then like still being passionate about that, but also having this thing
away from your job that you're obviously love and the people that you love.
I think he enjoys kind of seeing me go through that.
So that part's pretty neat.
And I always have to tell myself like it's his, it's my parents' first time going
through this too.
You know, like you think your parents have been through it all and stuff, but
it's their first time that their kids are this age and this is going on for their kids.
You just assume they know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like they're new at this side.
They're new to me having their son, having a son, like they don't know.
So that part is, I think it's just neat because yeah, you, like you said, you
assume they know everything and they know a lot.
But when their kids are going through things for the first time, they're also
going through these things for the first time.
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Can we tell them about our bees?
So I go outside earlier this week, beautiful day.
We leave the door open.
It's about the same temperature outside as it is inside.
And we just kind of open up the house a little bit and Amy's sitting on a couch.
I had just come in from wherever I had been all day and I sat down.
I come in from the front door after checking on the kids or doing something
out there with the girls and I look up and right over Amy's head on the back
porch through the back of the living room you see out into the backyard,
the back porch. It is 15,000 bees.
It was crazy.
Just like a blanket of darkness.
And they were all moving together. It was so bizarre.
It felt biblical. It was like you could feel the vibration.
You could hear the noise.
They were huddled around this post and Amy put a picture of it on social media.
I'd never seen a swarm like that.
And I'm thinking, you know, oh man, they're absolutely going to build a nest.
They're figuring out how to get into this column because it's hollow.
Yeah, we knew that they were hollow and they're about to do this.
We just had these columns re-stained.
We had the whole, no, we had them rebuilt, rebuilt, stained.
We hadn't had that done since the house was built.
And because of the sun on the back of the house, they were in bad shape.
So we had them rebuilt just like a year ago.
Oh, man. Yeah.
She puts the thing out, puts it on social media.
And of course we get everybody's opinion and everyone's a bee expert.
Everybody's a bee expert.
And the gist of it is basically they all did Google or ask Chad.
Yeah. Oh, God, that's funny.
The, um, so he goes, that sounds like a situation.
Yeah. The queen bee has come from wherever they're leaving, wherever they were.
They may be hibernating in a tree or something throughout the winter in the ground.
Who knows? But they're coming out to start to build whatever
nest they're going to have throughout the summer.
And she had just rested on this post.
Yes. Was most people's opinion.
Yes. She just stopped on the post, take a breather and the guys,
the worker bees are all kind of protecting her.
And we're going to protect her and we're going to hang out and see what the heck is going on.
We've got some scouts out there looking for a nice place to live.
And so that's kind of what we hoped.
Sure enough, in three hours, they're gone.
Five minutes, they started to dissipate like enough where they it was visibly thinning out.
And so and they're kind of flying around far enough away from the post now,
some of them where it felt like they might just be flying off the trees everywhere.
So like we thought they were just finding another place to hang out.
And we didn't think anything of it.
Well, by the end of the night, they're gone, gone.
Yeah, completely gone.
Nothing. You don't see any of them.
Well, the next morning, we're kind of seeing some.
Right. There's a couple flying around, around.
And I love walks over there and goes, dad, they're coming out of the column up there.
Right there. You see, she was wildly intrigued.
I walk over there and I'm like, damn, they are there.
They're coming out of the column, flying away, flying back in there and climbing back in.
So they found a way to get inside this column.
It wasn't sealed up properly.
So we call a beekeeper, a friend of ours.
And they come out there and we they pry the column apart.
They were smoking them out.
She had her smoker with her and she was trying to smoke them out before they tore the thing open.
They haven't been in there for a day and a half, which is not that long.
But when they were, they used to smoke for a while and they got some of them out.
But the queen, they never found her to be coming out.
They were looking for the queen.
They had the box they were going to put her in there because if you do that,
then all the others will get in the box.
So they had to, they had to bust open the column and try to smoke her out that way.
But they had already built three giant plates of the comb.
Like there were pieces of honeycomb in there already.
They took the combs out, put them in this nice neat little box.
They find the queen.
They put her in there.
They finally smoked her out.
They put the box.
They set the box there and the queen being in there with the rest of the comb,
all the bees are supposed to find it, right?
And hear her be, you know, drawn to that, which some did, but a lot didn't.
So the last 24 hours, the bees are like not really going into the box.
They're just kind of like wondering, where's the queen?
Honeycomb's gone.
What's going on?
What do I do?
They're just kind of hanging out and confused.
Confused.
Some are getting in there, but not a lot.
She came, the beekeeper comes back, looks at the box.
Man, maybe we leave it here another day.
Okay, that's cool.
And I think she's coming by today to get the rest of it.
The girls got to put the whole drape and the mask and everything.
It was, if they were fascinated.
And it was neat because when she opened the box last night
and saw that only part of the bee colony was in there,
she's like, that's alarming.
Like, where did they go?
And so she checked to make sure the queen was still there.
She was there.
But then she was like putting her ear against all the other columns.
There's like 12 columns on the back of the house.
And just to make sure they didn't migrate into another one.
And she's using all of her senses to try to figure that out.
And we're having Dale turn off all the water fountains on the pool.
It was a lot.
It was chaos.
Yeah.
SVG finished 17th, but looking at the points here, he's only 30-ish, 20-ish.
So how do we feel about, like is he going to be able to gain enough on row courses
to get in there?
I think, well, I feel like we're all going to Watkins Glen,
assuming that SVG is going to run top three, right?
Yeah.
Miles will budget a 3-3-3 day, right?
So that's 17-18 points, between 16 and 18 points, and then a good finish.
That probably, well, it depends when the caution is going to fall.
If he wants to win the race, he might have to flip.
Let's be honest, for him, it doesn't matter where the caution falls.
Yes, it does.
If the caution comes out with three laps to go before the end of the set, he has to flip.
And there is going to be a host of cars that stays out.
You're saying in three laps, he's just going to blow right by them all?
I'm like, no.
I don't think so.
In a hundred laps over the course of the race.
Wasn't he like, significantly faster last year?
Well, last year, I think what happened was,
didn't he pit when he came back out, still drove back to the lead?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's because, just so you know, that's because all the people within a
certain distance of him pitted to flip.
And then it was the guy that was in 15th, 38 seconds back that says,
all right, I'll take the stage win.
I'll stay out and then the person behind them stay out.
And so that gap, SVG was able to pit, come out.
Oh, I'm five seconds behind.
I'll just, you know, he goes up there and he re-wins the stage.
So it does have to play out somewhat perfectly for him to really have a 77-point day.
It does have to play out nicely.
I wonder what the team thinks or what the analytics say.
You know, how many points are needed for SVG at a non-oval track or non-road course
track from here to the playoffs?
How many points he needs assuming that they're going to get near max points at a road course?
I mean, the issue is, is there still some really strong guys?
I mean, you got, you got some perennial bubble guys, right?
Like that every year you're talking about bubble.
Suarez, Cindrick.
So if I put a question mark there, question mark there.
I think it's realistic for us.
Chris is like so just, he's solid.
He won't have a lot of DNFs.
But he also is not going to smoke it in stage points.
Lugano's out.
Jesus.
Briscoe's on the cut.
And SVG is right behind that, right?
Yeah, right behind Chastain, one point.
I think he still needs some help.
Even if he has an awesome day, I still think he needs help.
I just think these drivers above 14th here, the only person that I confidently will say
is going up is Briscoe.
Right, he's going to store, yes, I would agree with that.
And, and that's even the non-biased side of it says, well, it's because he's,
he's going to score a lot of stage points.
He's going to finish where he should eventually.
Yeah.
Like, yes, you would say that one's going up.
Let's just assume SVG wins two of the next three road courses in the regular season, right?
We got three.
Is there three more in the regular season?
Walkins, Glen, Sonoma, San Diego, that's three.
Yeah.
Let's just assume he wins two of them.
That's 30 points alone, right?
15 for each win, 15.
It's going to be close.
That puts him at two.
It's going to be close.
It's going to be close.
So that's what I'm saying.
What is the average amount of points you need at a non-road course race to keep yourself
around that 16th spot?
Yeah, it'll be close.
We'll see.
We'll probably definitely have a closer picture after this one.
I think we'll have a better understanding whether he's got a shot to make it or not.
My guess is he'll probably come.
We're going to be talking seven days from now.
He's 10 points above the cut, maybe 15.
But gosh, you're running out of bullets.
You're running out of bullets.
It would be something if no track-offs cars made the playoffs.
I still think Chastain finds a way.
But who's he going to take?
Who's spot he taken?
I don't know.
It's going to be interesting.
We'll see.
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About this episode
Carson Hosevara’s Met Gala moment turns into a bigger conversation about why NASCAR drivers need mainstream visibility—“We need our drivers in these unusual spaces connecting with people that aren't connected to our sport.” The hosts then pivot to points math and late-race strategy, weighing how caution timing and stage sequencing can shape playoff chances. Ryan Blaney shares how he leans on his dad for racing advice, including a Martinsville practice trip to watch turns one and two. Between segments, the show also runs sponsor reads for engine protection and a spring workwear promo, plus a family bee-swarm story.
Original notes
This week's Dirty Thirty is going to be all the buzz around town — and yes, that is a pun referring to the swarm at the Earnhardt house. Get ready to rock and roll on into the best 30 minutes of your week with Dirty Mo Media!
Batting leadoff is Dale Jr. discussing Carson Hocevar's outing at the Met Gala, the moments he remembers being in the pop culture spotlight, and why he thinks more drivers should do the same.
In the two spot, Door Bumper Clear heard from many No. 9 fans, known better around that set as "Chasesexuals." It's safe to say they were one happy bunch this week... You also get to meet someone named Pickles, who sounds like a trip.
This week's guest interview on the Dale Jr. Download was with Mr. Mustache himself, Ryan Blaney! He talks about fatherhood and bonding with his own father, Dave Blaney, over life, racing, and everything in between.
As you read earlier, the Earnhardts have had a fun week dealing with a swarm of bees that decided to use their back porch as a vacation rental for spring break.
And last but not least, Denny Hamlin discusses SVG's chances of making the playoffs leading into the weekend at Watkins Glen.
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