Houston taqueria shooting - failed robbery

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As as you could think of coming up on today's show, there was a recent robbery attempt in Houston.

At a Mexican restaurant that went astray.

The robber was shot down cold, Where do you lie on this?

I get into it. I had mentioned this on a friend

of mines Facebook, and of course, that's probably the worst place to engage in conversation and I got basically beat up for my viewpoints. I'm going to share those with

you. There's also a video portion of

this that will be posted to YouTube.

At some point in my attempt to grow the YouTube page.

Also some brief car news. A Tesla went over the cliff 300

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And I'm standing there, waiting half the machines are down and I'm looking at these two people and each of them have like three or four items and they're taking a really long time.

I think someone woman, she was like, fumbling with her, her money kind of read the screen, not sure what was going on with older, and the other one was a guy kind of just taking forever and I'm standing there for Probably 45 minutes and there were other machines are very busy with people that actually had a lot of items. Finally, one of the Home Depot

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So the last couple days there's been some there was a Houston as a shooting at a Houston restaurant and it involved a guy coming in as a robber ask people for the money at gunpoint kind of walked around and collected the wallets.

And then you see a one of the civilians pulled our gun out as the robber was walking. Past them seemingly on his way

to the front door and then the camera froze.

Now, I have the opinion that the camera.

Throws for a reason because they knew they had something on there. That was a little sketchy.

I watch the news video clipping of it.

I read the article associated with it, this is down in Houston and one of the first things I saw were Exit Wounds or exit marks on the front door and that's when I started to kind of raise my eyebrow this was before they even showed the video something. And okay, so this guy, you know

he's it's open carry state right to defend yourself and I get all that but I evaluated the video and I go look, I'm not sure.

And what we found out is that the gun was fake.

Now, A lot of people misunderstood that I was thinking that, hey, just because the gun is fake means that this guy didn't deserve to get shot means that people should have asked them if the gun was real before he got shot, I have the opinion that if you were to walk out of your house as soon as you plan on committing a crime, whatever fate comes to you is probably what you deserve. Because when you're threatening

people, they don't know if it's real or fake or not, you're just going to react. And in this case, obviously the

robber didn't think about that when he walked out or when you Decided to rob people that day, and that was his last worst fatal mistake. So, with that being said, with

me, reviewing the video, I go. Well, you know, looks like the

guy has everything he needs. Looks like he's headed out the

door, no one is in danger anymore.

And this guy shot him down. I'm not sure that you know this

is going to be as open and shut case as a lot of people say it is. Maybe he should get in trouble.

That was the initial thing that I said, which I I pulled back.

I also said, this guy was just in there trying to get some bread for his family. The guy robbing which I was,

it's not a funny thing to joke about but I was joking about it again. This was a friend of mine had

posted this on Facebook and you know no good conversation ever starts with. I saw this post it on Facebook

first off so I was kind of very hesitant on even commenting but since it was a friends post I did comment and I did say thoughts and I did say I hope that's this.

I think this guy might get in trouble and I kind of hope I kind of think he should, which in reviewing after that.

I really don't think he should, but I can definitely understand that if he were to get in trouble.

And this was the initial video, of course, everyone jumped on my back. I'm not here to take it in one's

going away. I'm not one of those guys, I'm

for guns. I'm Pro guns, but this isn't

about gun control in my opinion. This was about self-defense and

you know, at what point do you go from from hero to prison?

And that's what I Was questioning, you know, how legal was this? You can go from doing the right

thing, which I think he did to potentially taking it too far in the days after we started to see the full video of what happened.

And then, the next 30 seconds and where he actually shoots the guy, a total of nine times, I had to watch the video If you want the video, I can send it to you or parking podcast at gmail.com, but at this point it's all over the place but

again he shot him nine times and it really looks even worse than I kind of originally thought. It's weird.

We live in a society where you can't even question stuff without people going to the extreme, right?

And and and the fact that he had a fake gun, it doesn't matter at the time, but if I were on the prosecution, I would probably try to use that as something there's no way you would know, there's no way, you know, but I look at every situation.

Hey, How could I attack this from multiple angles?

If I want to defend the guy, I could easily find ways to defend them. If I wanted to kind of question

him, I saw stuff that was questionable and that's all I was trying to say before I bring Brian sales on here, I'm going to read a few of the conversations that were kind of going back and forth off of Facebook.

Because I again I'm trying to have a conversation and people are like trying to curb stomp me about all this stuff because I you can never question what's happening in the state of Texas or anywhere when guns are involved because people automatically think you're trying to take their guns away again. This is not about gun control

one guy and I won't say who this is.

Jay after reading your comments I can tell you I have zero knowledge of how the legal system works in the prior case law in situations like these. I can also tell that you have

zero tactical knowledge of how to properly respond in a situation like this one, maybe this will help you.

If someone breaks into your house and is coming down the hall, screaming and waving a gun at you and your children, are you going to pour him a glass of water and ask him if the gun is real? Or are you going to use the

reasonable person standard infer that at the moment?

There is a justification to believe your life or others in danger of death or great bodily harm first off.

And people say that because I mean another guy asked me where you from bro, well, I grew up in Texas.

I used to illegally Ray gun because at one point in my Anna different lifestyle, I legitimately feared for my life.

I got into it with some people that I was doing bad business with. But anyway, so I understand how

things are in Texas. I understand how things are here

in Arizona. Arizona is the wild west as

well. I lived in Michigan.

Michigan can be the Wild and all three states.

You can walk around with a gun on your side.

Unless the establishment says you're not allowed to bring guns into my establishment. So I get all this, but to me,

this isn't about that. And in Texas, you're allowed to

legally, defend your property. If someone comes on your

property, if someone comes on your business, you feel threatened. Someone breaks into your house,

someone walks across your driveway.

You have the legal right to open fire.

However, I will say that no law is black and white, except for maybe some of the Ten Commandments, Thou shalt, not kill. That's it, it's not Thou shalt

not kill. And then you have to read 32

articles of what that actually means.

And if article be is appropriate, and then in the middle of article be, it says, this is absolutely necessary within your legal, right? And less be or unless article 3,

c 3, a + + 3 F or applicable, you go to 3F and it just sends you in a big loop. That's how the law is written.

It's written to kind of paint itself in a circle and it's written for things like this. So, nothing is ever that

cut-and-dry. This isn't the wild west.

Can you imagine what would happen?

If every time you feel threatened, you were legally within your legal right to pull out your gun and shoot somebody or beat somebody down. And that's why the law is.

The way the law is the see another one of these conversations is. Hmm, nothing.

Some of these are friends of mine.

Some of these are people that don't know me.

If you're sitting there with your family or friends, would you wait for him to shoot somebody first before justifying the shot? You know, that fraction of a

second, could be the life or death of a loved one or friend or innocent people in the restaurant.

That's very true. That's very true based on what I

saw. And again, I'm only going off of

what I've see here. And if the time, nobody knew

what we saw later was the rest of it.

But most of this was before that, and people were still going to die on that sword. No pun intended.

To me, it's different to me if someone's coming in and waving their gun immediately. That's when you react, not.

When they've grabbed everything, you assess the situation.

No harm was made to anyone or even a real threat to them.

In my opinion, it's not like the guy held a gun to someone's head and says, give me your money or else.

I'm gonna blow your brains out. Everybody give me your money or

I'm gonna blow this. Person's brains out to me.

It's different in The Details Matter.

So, with that being said, let me bring on Brian sales.

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and get connected today Brian. Welcome back to the show.

You've seen this as well. I know you have your opinions on

this as well and you you are tactical your you you or what somebody that I know of that I mean you have your own little I'm going to call it a compound bunker, you, your teacher family on how to professionally protect Themselves, you teach a tactical classes with guns and gun safety.

And I mean, even behind you, tell me what you have behind you, because I'm not an expert on this.

Yeah, that's that's just a precision rifle.

It's my new my new baby for hunting, and some long range trying to get in my long range game up but it's just a my first time getting a precision rifle. So yeah, tactical I love when

people do those words out there and Hiss hiss.

It's gonna be a great conversation.

And the thing is, and I mean, I get it, but I think people are so quick to defend gun usage. They think people are attacking

the fact that somebody has a gun and that's not what I was doing at all and as far as assessing a situation not everybody is good at that. I don't think you have to be a

military vet to understand what that means.

I don't think you necessarily have to go through professional training. I think sometimes people are

just that's just what they do. Everyone who knows me.

I was me as a very even-keeled person and it's because I usually don't panic first ice SI react, and then I think about it later and I give a classic example, we had an NSX event here called intersects bow and in October, I come home from an event. I want to get a few things and

continue on. This is a weekend-long event, I

walk in the door, my son sitting on the couch with the one of his best friends watching football, my mother-in-law standing there in the kitchen, my brother-in-law's over my mother-in-law's. Eating something and she starts

coughing over the trash because she choked.

She has health problems. I kind of look at him.

Like, are you cool? She's yeah and I go okay, I keep

doing what I'm doing. I'm bringing stuff in and around

the house I come back in but now I know that the situation is going on. I come back in and I see that

she still coughing and so I kind of go over and stand near her to kind of get closer to the situation so I can kind of assess what's going on here. I'm not panicking.

I'm looking at my brother-in-law, he's starting to get really scared. I'm looking my mother-in-law.

She's looking at me, the kids in the, the grown kids, and the living room are kind of looking back.

And she looks at me with a look on her face.

And I could tell now, she's like, she's legit struggling, and she needs my help no time to panic.

No time to do anything. I just jumped into gear got

behind her. Give her the Heimlich maneuver

stood next to her weight of her to take two or three, super deep breaths. I looked at my brother-in-law

said, okay, you got her you good and he goes, yeah, go.

Okay, go get her. You know, she needs a breathing

treatment you guys take care of her and I was, I was Literally out of the door within 3045 seconds, continuing on with my day. Now not everybody could have

done that. I'm not trying to say that.

I'm some sort of a hero. I mean, this is my family, but

my point in that is not everybody panics.

Sometimes you assess the situation and when I was watching that video, that's, you know, it's easy to say, what you would do when you're not there. Obviously no one had a gun to my

head, but just in looking what I looked at as like it looks like most of the, you know, the danger is over.

They could have lived you know to Live Another Day wallets and ID's can be replaced. People can't the person who got

killed he got what's coming to him?

I mean shit like that happens. Fuck around and find out.

That's what everyone says. I'm a firm believer of fuck

around and find out but from a prosecution standpoint I can see how this wasn't a opened and shut case.

What did you see before? I start I have just want to

preference that my eyes are covered because the last time I was on this show, I took a quite a beating I'm from your following. So I'm still healing from that.

I hope this time they don't beat me so bad.

With this response, when I saw in this video was that As you just said, the situation awareness, you know, getting a feel for what's going on. And I'm looking at the video

again. I don't see Panic on anyone

really the guy that's sitting across from the guy that did the shooting? He seems pretty calm.

He's like, okay, let me just about to lose this money, the guy in the corner, he's not panic and he gave up his wallet.

it, you know, we've heard so many times when people like I heard this person said, if I don't do this I'm going to die and I I felt that in my soul like I knew this was it There's no audio. We can't tell what his voice

sounded like. But looking at the video, I

don't seem like people are really panicking or it just can give up their money. I mean, we have one person that

drove to the floor, which is a natural response but after I watch the video, I want I think I watched it like five times five is like you know what? This guy is probably going to

jail. He fumbled with his gun trying

to get his gun out. And that was his time to if he

was going to do some of it should have been right then and there but he fumbled it in many cases where we see where police officers, shoot someone in the back, right?

There's outrage. He was turned around.

He wouldn't even face me. How do you do blue?

Saying that the guy is slightly in front of him, he could have stopped him when he got to the table, the guy passed, he shoots them, let me shoot some, some more, I mean I'm an instructor.

These are things that we talked about in our class.

The the illegal use of force, you have to be in line with all of those. You have to check each box and

looking at the video, He missed some boxes, what boxes did he miss? Because, you know I'm not sure.

I'm not tactically inclined. I'm not classically trained.

I've never had to take a life. I've never been in a situation

where I feel like my life was about to be taken which matters here, but I also feel like when you, when you choose to carry a sidearm, we don't live in 1896. You know what I mean?

We're in any given time someone in the saloon could pull out a six-shooter and start firing. I think when you're carrying a

Sidearm. You carry it for protection but

you also, if it's not concealed, you kind of This is slippery slope here. But I guess, I guess before I go

down that road, I'm going to say that.

You should be trained to know that if you pull it out, you better of be able to justify, cut justify the usage of it Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. And in this case, I think that

it was self-defense. But it got a little hairy

afterwards. Yeah.

And what steps do you think you missed?

I feel like he missed the imminent threat.

In even before the imminent threat, you know I don't feel like that was a and there's a guy waving a gun.

He comes into the store that you should have shot him.

Then that you, you that's where your training comes in.

You should have been able to pull that gun out, cleanly and ended up. You have, he walked to the

corner. His back is towards you.

The gun should be out. He still walking, he walks to

the next Corner. You're cutting Chevy out.

He walks past you turns into heat, the gun should be out there, so he they go on and they are going to grill.

I'm watching this video right now.

They're gonna Grill him. If they get it, they get a good

at the DEA is good. This is going to be tough

because he had many chances to pull out the gun, and stop this person to shoot him in the face, and shoot him in the chest.

Not while his back was turned, if he was going to shoot him in a bag, it should have been in the back while he was in that corner or while he was behind them.

Robin Hood customers behind him, not when it looked like it was possibly over. And this is hindsight like we

prayer. And we're assuming that he's

about to Exodus nobody. I mean, he went, he already did.

He already got two tables, he already did all that, so It is, I mean, like you said, I believe is self defense or defense of the store self-defense. I don't know because he's not

attacking him that there is no imminent threat to him and if the again at the lawyer people, he's immediately with.

But I know that's that's kind of the gray area that I see is a gray area and I understand the defense of that, but everyone's quick to say, what if it was your family.

But I didn't see anything on there that look like anybody was About to get plugged and, you know, it's not.

Do you want to ask him if the gun is fake?

It doesn't matter if the gun is fake, I understand that at the time it does not matter, but what I'm saying is it, it could matter if someone wanted to come after him, one of the, the latest news that I saw I was on YouTube but it was like from the Houston, you know news and they had interviewed a very young defense attorney and of course they're going to have a defense attorney on there because it's like A defense attorney is going to tell you everything. That's right with the situation

order to get off. The prosecution is going to tell

you everything that's wrong with the situation order to prosecute. And I guarantee you, if you get

a prosecuting attorney sitting there in front of the camera they're going to say exact opposite.

The defense attorney said mmm and that's one of the points.

I was saying is like the law Works in weird ways.

The law will twist itself up in a corner and it's not about what we've seen necessarily. It's about what can and can't be

proved. It's such a cliche but it's so

So true very true and I mean that's that's right on the head like it's on the lawyers to prove.

What can be proven Liz has them do with really truth or lies is if you're in that situation, would that actually happen with?

Is that possible again is I don't see the self-defense in it because he's not being attacked his family member or out whoever that guy is in front of him. He doesn't look worried, he's

calm, he's wishing, he hit me, maybe he's gone because he sees the guy pulled a gun and he's like yeah this is about this is it's about to go down, I could be definitely the case, but the person in the corner that I I'm guessing that's an older guy over there in the corner, he's sitting there like this, he's, he's like, he's playing, he's waiting to it, just stall and waiting for that guy to get out, so he can.

It's what do you think? You would have done in this

situation because To me, it's you learn survival, survival of self. That's natural.

You can't even control that. And to me, survival is give this

guy. My phone, give this guy, my

wallet, whatever he needs. He's on the way out the door.

I live to fight another day. Maybe we catch him me, but I

find myself in the trash, or on the corner.

I feel if the guys coming in and he's and again he was brandishing a weapon which we ended up not being real but we don't know that it was waving it around as a robbery, just like a typical robbery, you see on TV low in whatever and to your point like my thought and I got grilled for even having this thought and I love the conversation because I don't care. If the guy goes to jail, I don't

care if he gets off. I'm just saying it's there's a

lot of gray area in this video and in my and I see the guy, he looks like he's got everything he needs.

You Way out the door. Nobody else isn't in any

imminent danger and if I'm the prosecution I may be asking that question. Because he's wanted for

questioning notice that they're all those, those red fly key phrases, you know. Yeah, they've been to leave the

scene. I guess they had another person

on there who said that and you know you're not legally obligated to stick around at the scene of a crime.

No you're not Eve but what if you're gonna pull the trigger?

Like if this happens all the time so with that I would tell him not to even if so. Okay, for me because I've been

through the course, like I said, I'm an instructor.

So I know that my job is to make sure that it's hard for the state to prove their case against me.

Even though I know I was not in the wrong.

It does not vote go, it does not go well for me to speak to the police officer and allow them to trip me up and me to speak and say something that. I mean, no, I didn't mean that.

I you know saying so it's best to training, leave the scene, your attorney come out to you get your attorney talking to Police officers not saying they're doing this on purpose.

That's their job. That's the state's job to prove

the case to put people behind bars.

They can't put the other guy behind bars.

Someone has to pay for this. So if I was in that situation

like I said, the guy came through the door, that's why training is so important. I don't feel like that guy, you

know. This is me assuming I don't

think that guy trains. Pulling from a seated area where

there is bunched up. And he has to and present.

I don't he's stumbling right now.

He still stumbling watching. You know, though is that part of

training of being able to draw From Any Given position, if you're going to be a gun carrier, it is on you to be responsible all the way to like through until you need to know your state laws. You need to know every law

within so you can operate appropriately and make sure you're not getting caught up on anything when it goes to the Phineas. Self.

You want to be able to get your gun out and present it.

And in the threat right away, you don't want the threat walking around. Brick.

What about the nine shots, the design shots he, as he stands up, he fires five and then he walks toward the dead person or will be dead soon. Eminently dead fires, three more

times. Kind of, looks around moves, the

gun picks up the gun fires one more time, and then goes back to his table. And then that's when he looks at

the gun finds out it's fake and Chuck's it across, you know, the cafe, which I can understand the frustration because I can't even imagine. Like you can, it can be both

things. You can feel like you've

defended yourself and other people and then felt like complete shit afterwards if he did.

He did. What's I think he did.

What was right? Maybe, but it's not for me to

say, right? But I mean that that has a feel

like shit at the end. Yeah, I mean nine shots, the

last one. At the, you take the gun.

You shoot him again. That's going to be hard to

justify, right? A lot of people say, well like a

lot of people like to say I was trained or I was told to make sure I eliminate the threat fully like there's no life, no, your neutralize them right now. What's the difference between

eliminate the threat and neutralize the threat?

Is there a neutralized? So, in my book.

Yeah, neutralized would be to be able to make sure that person is not capable of doing anything. You know, they're not able to

attack you still eliminate Eliminate that is you're done your don't and that's what he did.

He he was already neutral. He was on the ground.

He took the weapon. Was he going to get up at the

five shots at that point? Is 90 eight shots to the weapon

fired another time? That's hmm.

Well that remains to be seen, you know, like I said last time, this is hard Park in the non-automotive our Automotive podcast in this absolutely has nothing to do with cars but it's about life. It's about people and it's a

it's a discussion. This thing went viral and went

Global and it's about 50/50 people saying good.

He got what he deserved or you know people saying damn, that sucks. They didn't have to be like

that. I think everybody thinks in the

end. The robber a would-be robber

kind of got what was coming to him.

But to what extent and I think that's what we're waiting to find out. So Brian, thanks for joining the

show again, I appreciate it. You want to plug your note.

You have a self-defense technical course coming up.

Actually I got it actually have a class next week to do this.

We actually Wednesday is going to be on Twitter, on the Twitter spaces is free. You come in and listen to we're

going to be talking about the use, the legal use Force.

This is a I'm definitely going to talk about this and we're going to go through some of the things that some of the boxes that he's supposed to check off and you know, to make sure that this was a clean shooting but it's looking pretty shaky.

But yeah, you can check out the Warriors defense collection at go to the voice collection brand and there's a tab for warriors defense collection, where we all have our classes listed there and yeah. Please, please, please be kind

in the comments. They won't be.

We're not here for your guns. I mean.

How many guns do you own right? I got about six.

No, six about six, but we're responsible, we train with them and we encourage other people to train.

And and if you're going to carry, be responsible caring and, you know, know the law, don't be a hothead, it is, this is like lives are on the line, you know?

Yeah, it is there's so much that could be said, but yeah, you got to be responsible. Yeah, and then and again, we've

had these conversations with everything that we see whether it's Brianna Taylor, whether it's George Floyd.

And so, I mean, you know me, I'm not a my anti guns.

I'm not anti guns at all. I don't think this has anything

to do with gun control. No, this was just a robbery case

that went wrong. And then, at the end of the day,

I just think that you can Based on what I saw, you can easily go from Hero of the Day legally to, in big legal trouble.

Yeah, it's just how this world works.

And people need to understand that like if you step out of line and you're trying to be a hero or you think this is a moment for you to be a hero, you could be really stepping into prison for life, you better be sure what you better.

Be sure is act like him. Thanks Brian.

No problem. What?

So ever mentioned, I mentioned this before, in the past, I'm part of a page, a group online on Facebook, called Apex Auto Motor, and I usually get a lot of it.

Sometimes I get my news from there because it's full of there's like 40. I don't know how many thousands

of members are are but usually there's some interesting stories stories like this. This a man.

Drove his Tesla think it's a model.

Why? I can't really tell off a cliff

300 feet. Now, Tesla is also known for

lowest probability of injury tested by the nhtsa national highway, traffic safety administration, and guess what, this stands for the model 3, the model S.

And the model X, all said you are far less likely by it's like the most Dangerous one is the model X at like six and a half percent chance of being injured. No other vehicles are close.

The model 3 is less than it's like 5.8% so you can look for

it. Online, Tesla goes off.

Cliff, I'm reading this CNN thing.

It's all four occupants of the Tesla survived the crash Monday after the car plunged. 250 to 300 feet into a rocky Beach area

known as The Devil's. Slide about 20 miles, south of

San Francisco, California Highway Patrol set, But get this, the 41 year old California man, the driver faces, multiple charges after he allegedly drove off a cliff on the Pacific Coast Highway with his wife and two children on purpose, he tried to take out his entire family and failed due to Tesla.

Imagine that, you know, there's, I've had low times in my life and there's times where I've driven and I thought, what would happen if I just drove off this Cliff?

It's been a while, but every once while my mind's weird.

So I always wonder about that. You're what I survived would, I

die? And it's weird because my mind

is I always come to the conclusion of, no, I would probably fucking live and I'd be a quadriplegic for the rest of my life and I would hate myself. If those are the weird things I

think about imagine trying to take your entire family out just to survive. According to Cal Fire's Coastal

Fire Protection District the damage to the vehicle, would indicate that it hit and then flipped several times.

That's Brian Ian pottinger, a battalion chief for Cal Fire's Coastal, Fire Protection District.

He said the car came to rest on its Wheels.

This is as firefighters repelled down the cliff to the car other First Responders, watch through binoculars, as we witness his quotes. As we were doing that, we were

able to notice movement in the front passenger seat through the windshield pottinger said, so we knew that we had at least one person that was alive. When the First Responders

arrived, all four occupants were conscious in.

The two children were secured into their car seats that and intact car seats. These are small kids, good Lord

Crews freed, the two children and use a rope to lift them up in baskets later, a California Highway Patrol, helicopter, hoisted the two adults to safety based on the evidence collected investigators developed probable.

Cause to believe this incident was an intentional Act.

That is the car news enough drama for this episode.

So far this year is starting off a little heavy on the podcast and I appreciate it. And I do give people my ideas,

my thoughts, my opinions on things that I see.

And sometimes, maybe I lose friends over it.

I don't think I really say anything controversial, but I'm very, I'm very happy to have a conversation about just about anything and as usual I usually play things right down the middle. It's the same case with, you

know, this thing with the Houston shooting is no different. I can see both sides of it and I

was just asking hey you know what are you guys thinking based on what do you think based on what you see here?

It's not clear and cut. Wes and I talked about that

quite a bit in the last few days about it.

Because the first thing I saw was, as I said earlier to exit holes on the front door, And then you see the video where the guy, the first video where they froze the frame as he's pointing the gun at the guy. I'm like, hmm.

He had him dead to rights. How do we have two bullet holes

exiting the front door and Wes. Assad is Ricochet, which is a

very real thing. I know that But, of course,

later on, we see the whole video and there was nine shots.

Four of which were pretty much Point Blank if you don't want to count the first five as point-blank the last one definitely Point Blank. I'm very curious to see how it

how it handles out. And again, I mean, I Look,

everybody in my life owns guns, or has guns or shoots guns.

I like the way guns. Look.

I don't own a gun. Not because I'm anti-gun I'm not

anti gun. But like I said, this has

nothing to do with that. This is a shitty robbery attempt

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