Porsche is a famous car company from Germany that makes fast and sporty cars. Many people really like their older cars and enjoy collecting and talking about them.
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The Porsche 356 is the very first car Porsche made, starting in 1948. It's a small sports car that helped make Porsche famous and is now a classic car many people love.
The Ford Torino is a car from the 1970s that was made famous by a TV show called Starsky and Hutch. It has a special stripe on the side and is a classic American car.
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I've quietly been letting cars go over the past five, six years.
One here, one there.
One time I had seven three-liter turbos.
I'm now down a two.
It was quietly let one go.
Did I miss it?
No, I thought I'd miss it.
I didn't miss it.
Let another one go.
Did I miss that?
No, don't even notice it.
So for anyone that ever wanted one of my cars, here's your
opportunity to have one.
My life's going to go on, right?
With or without these cars.
And something else is going to come in.
That's the next chapter.
Yeah.
But I'm actually pretty excited about.
I like that, but I got to let that stuff go.
I'm not going to be defined by what I own part of who I am, but
that's not going to define me.
Welcome back to Talk Talk Nation.
I'm your host Joe Weber and join with me this week is the one
that only the urban outlaw himself, Mr. Magnus Walker.
Magnus, thank you so much for being here with us or I should
say we're here with you.
I'm always here.
So thank you, Joe Weber and Dona Media for coming downtown to
see me.
I mean, you're with me.
I'm always here.
We are people come through all the time, but welcome.
Well, you just had, you just opened up your shop to the public.
Correct.
For the first time.
No, no, no, I do it occasionally, you know, sort of under the radar.
You know, this is not really a shop.
Yeah.
You know, it's my garage.
I call it, you know, sort of what separates me from a lot of
the other automotive people you may be talking to is this is not
actually a business.
It's an out of control hobby.
So last week was LA art week.
It was also LA Porsche week.
Yeah.
Based around the Porsche lit fest that has been going for 42
years at the LAX airport Hilton.
And I'll sum it up for people that are not Porsche people.
It's a bit like train spotting for Porsche people.
Yeah.
You know, everyone's all about the old school stuff.
And last week was all about the open houses and the lit fair and
swap meets and sort of the organic end of the Porsche world.
You know, that kind of coincided with you opening up to the public.
Yeah, it made sense because, you know, people want to come through here with
it being Porsche week.
There's a lot of people in town for all the, all of the Porsche activities.
And it tends to be more of the old school three, five, six crowd.
I mean, in the average age, he's like, you know, 65 to 90, you know, no
ones, uh, you know, flying drones is hardly any social media, uh, content
being created, no one's roaming around with cameras and gimbals.
I've never even heard of it before.
And let me tell you, it was refreshing.
Yeah.
That's how the car community used to be before it sort of had to be
documented every single step of the way.
That's interesting.
That you learn something every day.
There's no, no boomer with like an iPad filming.
I didn't see it.
I mean, my open house was a bit different because, you know, Larry
Chan was here and we're doing stuff together.
And that was a younger crowd for the most part, though, LA Porsche week,
which is centered around this lit fair and all the independent shops or
open houses is put on by the three, five, six community.
Okay.
So the three, five, six community, you know, that was Porsche's first car
back in 1948.
So, you know, those things are almost 80 years old and most of their owners
are in a similar age bracket and they don't really care about creating
content, which is refreshing because you just focused on the people in the
cars and having face to face, eye to eye communication.
You know, it's like a digital detox, you know, and a sea of disposable
content that, you know, is, is made to last 30 seconds and then you've
moved on to the next thing.
So it's sort of like stepping back in time.
You know, I've been a car guy for 50 years.
And so I'm kind of bridging the gap between the new school and the old
school.
Yeah, I was going to say, you have a great online presence and I feel like
you're well known on the internet.
So being a bridge to that community could be cool too.
And, and also detoxing and just being able to like disconnect from everything.
Yeah.
So, you know, digital detox, digital disconnect, you know, I'm all about
bridges, we're literally one block from the 60th bridge, you know, I've
traveled the world and I've done events and gatherings usually under bridges,
whether it's Sydney Harbor Bridge, London Bridge, Brooklyn Bridge, LA,
Sixth Street Bridge.
And, you know, I always talk about bridges, bring people in and out of
the city and the bridge gaps and bring people together.
You know, I'm all about communicating.
I'm a car guy, but that doesn't define who I am.
You know, I'm a man with a beard this year is the 40th year that I've
been in LA.
I thought you were going to say it's the 40th year you've had a beard.
No, I probably had a beard 25 years.
You know, there's a pre-bid days, you know, which were the glam rock
days of the 80s and 90s.
Do you sue to get those pictures taken off the internet of you without a beard?
No, not at all.
You're not, not at all, you know, they're in, they're in that catalogue
right there.
We can dive into that later.
Yeah.
You know, life is all about phases.
You know, next year I'm turning 60.
This year marks my 40th anniversary in LA.
I literally arrived on a trailways bus less than two miles from where
I was sat right now at Union Station after spending the summer on a
summer camp north of Detroit with inner city kids in Detroit and the
surrounding areas in 1986.
So let me let's back up for a second because that's a lot.
That's a crazy history just to even get to LA.
You grew up in Sheffield, correct?
Correct.
So what made you cross the Atlantic and start?
Pretty simple sex, drugs, rock and roll.
You know, I grew up in, I was born July 7th, 1967.
So you can do the math figure out how old I am.
So I grew up in the 70s and 80s.
You know, I was a bit of a rebel outcast at an early age.
You know, by the time I was 13, 14, I discovered the new wave of British
heavy metal and I was going to rock shows when I was 14, 15, seeing everyone
from let's say Iron Maiden, Death Leopard, Saxon, Motorhead, Deep Purple
all the way through the American bands such as Van Halen and Motley Crew
and Poison and obviously ACDC and Sabbath and all of this stuff.
So, you know, did they all come through Sheffield or did you have to travel to?
No, they all came through Sheffield, Sheffield City Hall.
The first big gig I went to was the Monsters of Rock Festival at Donnington
Park in 1982.
And I've got that program right there.
Wow.
It's literally right there.
So you you save everything.
Yeah, I tried to, you know, yeah, you know, that's what mums are good for.
You know, you know, you end up putting stuff in a box and your mom never
throws it away.
So probably 25 years ago when I went back to England and going up in my mom's
attic and found all these rock programs from literally 82 to 86.
And, you know, that was when I left England to come to America.
So I spent 19 years of my life in Sheffield, England, which is a former
industrial steel town, famous for cutlery and stainless steel.
They invented the process of stainless steel in the 1880s and supplied
a lot of steel to the cutlery industry and obviously the automotive industry.
So ironically, going from Sheffield to Detroit was kind of a similar thing
because Detroit, obviously the motor city in the mid 80s has fallen on hard times.
It wasn't going through the gentrification and resurgence that it's going through right now.
Yeah.
This is like the start of the downfall.
The downfall had already happened in the 70s.
By the time it was 80s, Detroit was in big urban decay.
All these former grand buildings were, you know, abandoned, boarded up.
Squatters were living in a, you know, the big new Ford plant,
the Grand Central Station that just opened up.
That was a ruin in the 80s and it was just still a ruin in the 90s and early 2000s.
So, you know, people had left Detroit and it was sort of a little bit of a ghost town.
You know, grown up as a kid in Sheffield, England,
I listened to a lot of heavy metal music, a lot of American music,
and I watched a lot of American TV shows.
Shows such as Dukes of Hazard, Starsky and Hutch, Kojak Chips.
So they're all centered around mostly LA and car culture.
Lots of cars in those.
Lots of cool cars.
You know, Starsky and Hutch, you know, the Ford Torino with the stripe down the side.
And then of course, General Lee in...
Yeah, you know, so for me, I was influenced by Americana,
whether it was the music, the film, Captain America, Evil Can Evil,
Red, White and Blue, Stars and Stripes.
Everything's bigger and better in America and American TV shows, like I say.
So I did this thing called Camp America,
which was just a way for me to get out of England
and get to America on a sort of a student visa, which I ended up overstaying.
So it was a program that you could transfer over to Detroit
and be a camp counselor for the summer?
You don't really know where you end up.
And so I got to set the scenario of summer camps don't exist in England,
or at least they didn't in the 80s.
I wasn't even in the Cubs or the Scouts or whatever it may be.
So the concept of a summer camp was completely foreign to me.
And that was where I became what I call an adaptive swimmer.
And by that, I mean, I'm 19 years old,
looking like I want to be in Poison or Motley Crew.
And I'm dropped into this environment,
this urban environment north of Detroit on a summer camp on Lake Michigan.
And everyone's into Run DMC and LL Cool J.
And I'm into Motorhead and Iron Maiden, and it was a culture shock.
And that was where I really learned to adapt to the environment that you're in
if you want to survive.
And that was where I sort of coined this term,
how I became an adaptive swimmer.
Like I'd left school at 15 with two O levels,
which is not a lot of education.
But I described myself as being street smart.
And there's kind of two different types.
You're either book smart where you get a lot of education
and you go to college and you've got a career path.
I was complete opposite.
I didn't know what I was going to do.
Becoming an actual swimmer was not part of the equation,
even though you're a camp counselor.
But it's pretty funny, the term adaptive swimmer.
I was a general counselor on this summer camp,
but I was a lifeguard at that summer camp.
And it was kind of just, even that was strange,
because Europeans wear speedos.
Americans don't wear speedos.
They've got board shorts.
So everything was a culture shock to me.
And it was also a culture shock to the people
that were on the summer camp.
I would imagine.
It was to watch with this freaky guy
with spiky peroxide air wearing speedos by the pool.
It's kind of like watching Borat or something like that.
Like watching an Ali G episode of Before It Even Existed.
You got to remember this is 1986.
So the internet does not exist.
Cell phones do not exist.
So there's like, these kids are not seeing
what you grew up with in Sheffield.
They're not seeing heavy metal the same way you are.
No, but ironically, Detroit, the motor city,
Motown, music, soul, Iggy in the Stooges,
MC5, Alice Cooper, Rundown Stealtown,
Rundown Automotive City, right?
Sheffield and Detroit were kind of similar
working class neighborhoods and cities.
So that resonated with you?
It did.
And as time went on, it really resonated.
Yeah.
You know, for me, originally, it was just like,
I got to get out of Sheffield.
This is going nowhere fast.
You know, I never spent any time in London.
My goal was, hey, I sort of stumbled
into this Camp America thing.
It was like work eight weeks on a summer camp,
and then you got six to eight weeks to travel around America.
Oh, that's very cool.
But all I did was buy a trailways bus ticket.
So my goal was to get to LA.
Yeah, I kind of skimmed over it,
but you said that your visa lapsed
and you were technically here illegally for a while?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I arrived on that trailways bus,
Union Station, end of August,
probably like whatever the end of August Labor Day weekend is,
and took a trailways bus from Detroit to LA
and then got on a bus from Union Station.
When I arrived at Union Station,
it was probably four in the morning,
and I remember sleeping on a bench
and getting woken up by security
who basically said, you can't be here.
And at that point, this was the rude,
rough wake-up call of, in my mind,
LA was like the LA that I'd seen on TV and in movies.
And I'm like, we're all the beautiful people,
we're all the rock stars.
Where's life?
Because Union Station at 4, 5 a.m. in the morning.
And then you looked at a map
and realized how huge LA was?
Yeah, and then I figured out, hey,
well, I didn't figure out, I asked a lot of questions.
Where am I gonna stay?
I ended up staying at the YMCA off of Hollywood Boulevard.
So I had to take a bus from downtown LA to Hollywood Boulevard.
And Hollywood Boulevard, it hasn't really changed in 40 years.
And it's this magical place that you either love or hate.
But it's a bit like the Guns N' Roses Welcome to the Jungle song
where Axl gets off the Greyhound bus.
And there were thousands of people doing that.
And I was one of them.
Because people came to LA to fulfill their dream.
Whether you want to be a rock star, movie star,
those were probably the two big dreams.
So I ended up staying on a YMCA,
which is still there ironically.
It's on Schroeder, which is two blocks.
And Wynonna?
Wilcox and Schroeder, which is one block south of Hollywood Boulevard,
two blocks west of Cawenga.
And that place is still there.
Yeah, I used to play dodgeball there.
I was in an adult dodgeball league.
That sounds like a Ben Stiller film.
Yeah, it was fun, but definitely dorky.
So imagine that in 1986.
And for me, it just represented the ultimate freedom.
Like instantly I went down Hollywood Boulevard
and that was sort of like the closest thing to Kings Road
or Camden Market.
And it was full of teenage dreamers and hustlers.
And it was just a vibe.
And I had this taste of freedom that lasted probably six weeks
until I overstayed my visa.
And my story is short.
40 years later, I never went back.
But LA represented the land of opportunity.
And it still does.
You know, whatever you want to do here,
you can do if you put the energy in.
Whether you want to host a podcast, be a camera guy,
you know, movie star, rock star, skateboarder,
supermodel, beach bum, whatever it is.
There's an infrastructure and an industry that's already here,
which they're not going to give you this career.
But if you put the energy in,
because LA is a melting pot, right?
It doesn't matter where you come from,
what you look like, what you sound like.
Very few people are LA natives.
And everyone's coming here with this dream.
You know, I'm an LA story,
no different to your LA story.
You came here 17 years ago from Milwaukee, right?
Yeah, good memory.
To make sure it happened and you made it happen.
Yeah.
I did it 40 years ago and I'm still making it happen.
Hell yeah.
I'm still evolving.
Well, I can only aspire to what you've accomplished so far.
Well, I appreciate that.
I mean, the key is, and here's the tricky bit,
but the key is find what you love to do and do it.
Yeah.
The tricky bit is most people don't know what they love to do.
Or they might have an idea and they'll say to the friend,
hey, I'm thinking of doing this.
And the friend might say, ah, it's not a good idea.
It'll never work.
So most people are afraid of failure.
So therefore they don't start this idea because somehow
they have someone else's opinion.
The key is if it feels right to you,
it doesn't matter what other people think.
I think what a lot of people misunderstand
is there's never an age where you can't reinvent yourself
and figure out a new skill.
Bingo.
I am there right now today.
I wanted to talk to you about this because you mentioned it
a little bit on Spike's car radio,
but you're kind of in this transformation era right now.
Correct.
You're selling, what, 18 of your almost 40 Porsches.
You're getting rid of some of your most prized possessions.
And this feels like you're kind of moving into
a different chapter of life.
What spurred that on?
Well, life is all about chapters.
And life comes in cycles.
And what I've discovered with age is, for me,
my life has been 10 to 15 year cycles of creativity
in certain areas.
You know, I came here in the mid-late 80s,
bummed around, sex toys rock and roll for a little bit,
and then accidentally fell into the clothing business.
Yeah, how did that happen?
I'd been here maybe two years and sort of, you know,
living on 25 cent burritos and frozen ramen,
we're starting to wear off and, you know, couch surf in
and just sort of bumming around by the time I was early 20s.
It has sort of grown a bit tedious with,
what am I doing here in this paradise?
But I'm not feeling fulfilled.
So I got a job by accident on the boardwalk in Venice,
which led to selling second hand clothing,
i.e. old Levi's 501s.
Wait, how did you get a job by accident?
I was walking down the boardwalk one day.
And, you know, the boardwalk in the 80s
was different to the boardwalk today, but not really.
There was like the guy selling cheap sunglasses,
socks on one side.
The guy with the roller blades playing the guitar.
Harry, Harry, he was there a lot younger.
So that was like on the east side of the beach,
and then the west side is where all the crystals
and tarot readers and deadheads were.
And I was walking down the beach,
probably looking, you know, sort of rock and rolly,
and I walked past this one stall
where there was an English guy working,
and he heard me talking,
and he literally came up to me and said,
hey, do you want a job?
And ironically, I sort of did,
and it paid me $10 a day to work at this booth,
which was selling seconds from the gap clothing store.
And it wasn't even shit that I was into,
but I noticed a couple of booths down,
there was a guy selling old vintage clothing,
and I was into that.
And so I'm like, oh, vintage clothing.
Yeah, I'd always, I could sew as a kid,
and by that I meant sewing patches on my denim jacket
that said AC DC or mode ahead, right?
My mom had taught me how to sew,
which generally meant making my Levi's as tight as possible.
So I learned this one skill.
And I started going to yard sales and thrift stores,
and literally buying old Levi 501s for 50 cents or a dollar,
and buying old vintage shirts,
which were paisley print or leopard print,
or dresses that were floral.
And I just started cutting them up
and sewing patches on jeans.
And I was coming at it from this sort of rock and roll vibe,
grateful dead ass, but more like Led Zeppelin's
70s rock and roll slash 80s heavy metal.
And timing is everything,
and timing cannot be predicted or scripted.
But at this same time, it was adjunct to position of
the European rave culture scene was taking over LA.
This was late 80s, early 90s,
and everyone was into sort of whimsical, theatrical,
baggy overalls and patchwork jeans.
And I also started making these crazy hats
that resembled the cat in the hat,
the mad hat, a court jester hats.
And I was literally coming at it from this rock and roll thing,
but it was this merging of these styles,
the fusion of rave culture,
which was dance all night on drugs,
rave on, and sort of rock and roll.
That kind of like jester style, right?
Like the Euro house, Jamir Kwai hat.
Completely that scene.
Which is circa 89, 1991.
And Venice was kind of the epicenter of it,
because Venice is a mecca for Europeans, always has been.
And Venice was the epicenter of all things
that were really cool in LA.
It was Hollywood, but that was rock and roll.
But daytime stuff, Venice was super cool,
because it was edgy.
You know, there was the element of danger to it.
The boardwalk on the weekend really had an element
of danger in the late 80s, early 90s.
It was kind of sketchy.
I do have a question, because it's kind of a trope
for Europeans to come to America
and misunderstand how big it is,
and be like, oh, I'm flying into Florida.
I could bop over to Nashville for one day.
Don't look that far on the map.
Yeah, when you first arrived in the US
and you were looking at taking this bus from Detroit to LA,
were you blown away by how big it was?
Yeah, great question, because you look at the map
and you go, okay, Detroit's up here and LA's down here.
So automatically you're just to a straight line, right?
The shortest point between two places.
But the trailways bus doesn't go on that straight.
It goes down through Memphis and Tennessee and Jags around
and took four days on this bus, which was like, wow.
This was an eye-opener,
just pulling into some of these places.
And you got to remember, I'm literally 19.
I've got a big duffel bag that's as big as that table with,
you know, like three months with the stuff that I've acquired.
And you're kind of on your own because no one's got a cell phone.
Yeah.
The internet's not existing at this point.
Your parents just kind of have to trust that you're doing fine.
Yeah, you know, you call them once a week or once a month
or send them a postcard, which is how it was.
So that was my first taste of this great American road trip adventure.
But ultimately the goal is just got to get to LA,
got to get to LA.
Nothing else mattered.
I'd flown into New York, took a bus from New York to Detroit
and then did the summer camp in the middle of nowhere.
And then LA was always the goal.
And that was it.
You know, I'm an Angelino.
I've spent 40 years here.
I spent 19 years in England.
So two thirds of my life is in LA, California.
And no one's telling me, cut your hair and get a real job.
I mean, I've never had a real job where I've worked for someone
other than being a construction laborer.
I've never had a corporate gig.
And I haven't had a gig in working for anyone in 40 years
since I've been in LA.
It's this entrepreneurial spirit of one thing leads to another.
And what I will say is, for certain types of people
who have inner self confidence, you don't need a plan.
A spreadsheet will only get you so far.
Some people like structure and they want to know
where am I going to be in five, 10, 20 years?
Some people like the ultimate freedom of, hey,
life's just going to come at me and it's going to be what it is.
Yeah.
And I was that type of guy that didn't really worry
about overstaying my visa.
And you know, I went through a whole process of,
you know, I had a social security number for banking purposes
and I was paying taxes.
I was employing American citizens because within a year or two
the business became pretty successful.
Wow.
So it really spooled up quick.
It spooled up quick because I was doing something at the time
that no one else was doing.
And the boardwalk in Venice might have had 100,000 people walking by.
But it was this other type of thing that the first day,
I think I made 25 bucks.
Second day, 30.
So third day, 50.
Then it's 100, then it's 200, then it's 500.
Kind of snowballed.
Yeah, just exponentially got better.
So you're getting like the first day that you start selling
your own clothing, you made two and a half times what you were
being paid at the other shop.
Yeah, you know, it was just, you know, at the time I had a girlfriend
so I was paying no rent.
She had a sewing machine.
I was sewing stuff on here and, you know, little by little,
it was $25, $50, $100, $200.
And then quickly it got to like a more significant daily amount,
let's say 500 bucks.
And then the milestone of, wow, we did $1,000 today.
And it's all cash.
And so, you know, then someone said,
hey, you should start wholesale.
And I go, what do you mean?
They go, you know, all those stores on Melrose, you know,
they'll buy your stuff as well.
Then that led to doing a trade show at the Javits Center in New York.
So got on a plane in New York and at this very first trade show
I ever did, we sold Disneyland and they bought 144 of every style.
That's literally late 80s.
That company's called Venetian Paradise because I was living in Venice
and that was Paradise.
And ironically, you know, I was doing stickers that went on things.
That sticker is from probably 1991.
This is like that.
You see what's going on here.
It's his whimsical Mad Hatter, Lewis Carroll fantasy world thing.
Yeah.
So that evolved from Venetian Paradise into by 1994,
what became known as serious clothing, mall rock and roll.
Because literally at that point,
Venetian Paradise had become old hat.
Like we had a great run for a couple of years where we're selling
all these theme parks, boutiques, and then people realized,
oh, we can knock this off and go overseas to China
and make it for pennies on the dollar.
We were hand making these things originally in Venice.
And then when we couldn't make enough,
we found a production facility that made baseball caps
and taught them how to make whimsical hats.
So it was all trial and error.
And this was the early days of hip hop and a lot of hip hop artists
started wearing big floppy hats that we were supplying.
But then probably five years into it,
someone had realized, oh, we can go make these overseas
in China for next to nothing.
And overnight, overnight, we became old hat, literally old hat.
And we were outfitting one of these hip hop bands.
And this rapper was really into, it's called No Faces,
really into these big floppy hats.
And one day I was showing them something that I'd sewed up.
And this is how inspiration strikes.
He literally went, yo, that's dope.
That's some serious shit.
That was his line.
That's how serious clothing got in.
Boom, that's how serious clothing was formed.
Because this guy went, yo, that's some serious shit.
That's so cool.
I'm like rebrand.
So Venetian Paradise became serious clothing.
And then I had that great run of serious clothing
where we started selling Hot Topic when they had five stores.
And then Hot Topic grew to 700 stores.
And for those that don't know,
Hot Topic was in every single mall
and outfitting every rebellious teenage pissed off wannabe kid
whether they're into goth, punk, rock and roll.
And so we grew with them.
We had our own store on Melrose retail store.
And we were wholesale in hundreds of stores
and doing a lot of volume with Hot Topic.
I remember going to Hot Topic in the 90s.
Pick that up right there.
See that?
Lean over and grab that skull.
With thanks and appreciation for your outstanding
vendor partnership, Serious Clothing from Hot Topic.
You can't buy this in Hot Topic.
What's the year?
1999.
So by my math, 27 years ago.
I love that.
Fine.
So it comes back to this evolution of a long answer
to the question about I'm going through a life change.
Right?
Yeah.
So change is constant.
So we go from Venetian Paradise on the boardwalk
in Venice to Serious.
And that has a great run until 2012
when I get a phone call from this crazy Canadian guy,
Tamir Moskovich, who wants to make a short documentary film.
And I won't bore you with all the details,
but that became an outlaw.
I remember that.
That was a big moment.
Big moment, 2012, 14 years ago.
That 32-minute award-winning documentary film
that was debuted at the Rain Dance,
which is a rainy version of Sundance in London
and we flew, was shot on two Canon 5Ds.
Two.
You guys are doing this podcast with three.
Yeah.
So back then, you know, a lot of,
let's call it the car culture environment
was different to what it is today.
Absolutely.
And that put me on the map.
So that sort of ran, and he's still running,
but the new evolution is from urban outlaw
to be branding myself as Magnus.
Nice.
And that evolution is coming all the way through to here.
Oh, like, inspired by Marlboro?
Correct.
So you look here, what's this inspired by?
I know it as Indie Trucks, because I'm a skateboarder.
Is that what, what's it originally from?
Harley-Davidson logo.
Oh, yeah.
The one percenters.
Yeah.
Hoyer logo.
Mobile one logo.
Marlboro logo.
Hell yeah.
But you look at the continuity.
These are all red, white and blue coming back to my love affair
with all things Americana, all things rock and roll.
Yeah.
Whether it's the Rolling Stones, the Who,
Evil Can Evil, Captain America continuity.
Are you a big Evil Can Evil fan?
Yeah, I mean, I like the mentality of being a dreamer
and achieving a goal and being kind of reckless.
It's like the evolution of the revolution.
Yeah.
So for me, what I've talked about in the past 10 minutes,
there is this evolution from a one-time people knew me as,
oh, you're that crazy hat guy on the boardwalk in Venice, right?
Then sort of in the 90s, the serious clothing era was,
hey, aren't you that serious clothing guy?
Or, hey, aren't you Rob Zombie?
I used to get that all the time.
Hey, aren't you Rob Zombie?
And ironically, I knew Rob Zombie.
And then, you know, the past kind of 12, 15 years,
hey, aren't you that Porsche guy?
And yeah, I'm all of those things.
But I'm never defined by one.
You know, I built a clothing brand that was pretty successful
that allowed me to get into real estate.
I bought this building 26 years ago.
At one point, I owned six pieces of property in the arts district.
Timings, everything.
Like, I was buying Porsches when they were really, really affordable,
when nobody cared about them, when they were literally like five grand.
Same with property.
It's all about following your own passion, your own dream,
and doing things that make sense within.
Like, from 94 to 2000, I'd rented two people's buildings,
a warehouse where I ran serious clothing on a loft where I lived.
And finally, I'm like, why am I paying two people's mortgages?
I got to invest in myself.
So I bought my own building, or we bought our own building.
You bought this at a time when downtown LA was pretty rough.
Correct.
It's not like it's super clean right now,
but we are in an area that's kind of being cleaned up,
and there's new shops going in and stuff like that.
I've been in the neighborhood, which is the arts district, since 1992.
Oh, wow.
So, you know, I'm 40 years in LA, but I've been down here for 34 years.
Yeah.
And remember, Union Station is two miles up the road.
I was going to say, it's kind of poetic that you live so close to where you got dropped off.
Correct.
And I'll come full circle on that.
I no longer live in the arts district.
Five years ago, my wife and I bought a house in Hollywood, near the Hollywood Bowl.
An old fixer upper.
Yeah.
This is a 125-year-old warehouse.
We bought a bit of a rundown, gray gardens,
airstill-appedated Spanish home that you can walk to the Hollywood Boulevard in,
that's had 25 years of deferred MacGyvered maintenance.
But we love it, because I like old things.
So the connection here is my story started selling old Levi's.
Then I bought an old building along the way I've restored old cars.
Then I bought another old building, which happens to be a house that we're
living through a restoration.
But here's the interesting point to it.
It's basically one mile north of Hollywood Boulevard.
So every day I go get coffee on Hollywood Boulevard.
And occasionally, I'll take these walks on Hollywood Boulevard.
Like, you know, the song Nobody Walks in LA?
Well, my last name's Walker.
So I got to live up to my last name.
I average over six miles a day.
Now, here's the full circle 40 years later.
At least once or twice a month, I walk past that YMCA where I first came.
Oh, yeah.
It's still there.
Yeah.
That keeps me really grounded, keeps me pretty humble, I think.
I don't really feel like I'm drastically different.
I got less hair and it's gray.
You know, I'm 60 years old instead of 19 years old or whatever I'm 59 years old.
But my spirit's kind of the same.
You know, I'm still don't know where I'm going tomorrow.
I'm in this phase right now where I'm closing one door,
which I did with serious clothing.
That had a great run up until maybe 2008, 2009.
And then the past three years of that, you know, I'd lost passion for design.
And I'd always say we personally design what we like to wear.
We weren't following the trends.
We were making the trends by designing what we personally wanted to wear.
When did you shutter that?
Well, closed in 2011.
Okay.
The last two, three years because we'd lost passion.
We're in our 40s.
We're not going out to clubs anymore.
We're not seeing bands.
We don't really care.
So of course what happens is sales dwindle,
but all our buddies are working for us.
So you can't let those guys go.
Right.
And so finally after like two years of losing money,
we're like, okay, guys, we're going to give you six months notice
and we're closing this thing down.
We never sold the brand.
We just did our last clothing line and that was it.
Shipped the orders and said, okay, we're done
because at that point success to us meant the freedom to do
whatever you wanted to do when you wanted to do it.
So why are we doing something that was a pattern
that we'd done for 15 years, but he's now not working?
Yeah.
So you get stuck in this rut.
So literally we closed that door and we didn't know
what was coming next,
but what came next in 2012 was Tamir's film.
Now, if I was still running serious clothing
with a dozen employees when this came out,
I wouldn't have the time to go travel the world
doing car related stuff.
Now we didn't know what was going to come,
but we had the inner self-belief of it's going to be okay
and something good is going to happen.
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Now back to the show.
Where does the term urban outlaw come from?
Did that come from you or did that come from?
So throw away term in 2011.
So like 2009, 10, I've got a backup.
I fell in love with Porsche when I'm 10 years old.
Wrote a letter to Porsche.
Dad told me to learn a lot of motor show when I'm 10 years old.
White martini turbo.
I won't bore you with that story because I've told it a lot of times
but that was when my love affair started.
Bought my first Porsche in 1992.
That represented dream come true, ultimate freedom,
personal sense of accomplishment because I'd set a goal and I achieved the goal.
And growing up working class, I never thought I'd own a Porsche.
You know, that was for rich people, doctors and lawyers and stuff like that and that wasn't me.
So when you were 10 and you first saw the Porsche,
it was in a showroom or a motor show, right?
London Old School Motor Show.
We like going to the LA Auto Show and going to the Porsche stand and see,
you know, G2, 3 RS.
And immediately this is your goal when you're 10.
Yeah, there's a bit more to it than that because that era of the 70s,
England ruled the motorsports world.
James Hunt was Formula One World Champion.
Barrichin was two-wheel superbike champion.
And Formula One, all those F1 teams, they pretty much still are today based in England.
So I grew up watching a lot of motorsports on TV.
And I'd go to local tracks like Mallory Park, Caldwell Park,
Donington, be like on a Willow Springs and watch on a track day, right?
I'm at a club racing.
So even though we were working class, my uncle David, he had a Ferrari.
So there was an aspirational dream.
My dad was mechanical, but didn't have any money to buy a car.
He liked cars.
He liked cars.
So, I mean, the car culture seed starts at an early age, 3, 4, 5 years old
with a little matchbox, Corgi, Hot Wheels car, whatever.
Going through it right now with my son.
That was his first word was car.
Yeah.
I did not impose it on him at all.
I was like, if he wants to like cars, I'm going to let him like cars
and I'm going to support him.
But first word was car.
He loves everything cars.
So that's the beginning of it.
You know, he was probably in the culture, right?
Or round it, saw it.
Was attracted to it for whatever reason.
So that was me and Porsche.
I mean, it could have been Ferrari, it could have been Lamborghini,
because those were the three posters any kid on the, in the 70s and 80s
would have on the wall.
Yeah.
Lamborghini, Kuntas, Ferrari 512 box or Porsche 930 Turbo.
For some reason, I just picked Porsche.
So this is a long-winded answer, but I haven't forgot it
as to where did urban outlook come out.
So I buy my first Porsche in 92, early 2000s.
I joined the Porsche owner's club and started doing track days
between 2002, 2008.
I'm doing a lot of track days.
Willow Springs, Laguna Seca and various other tracks.
Did it ever occur to you that you could at that stage become,
you know, a race car driver or did you ever have those aspirations?
No, I took my aggressive street driving to the track,
went through the Porsche owner club program of a short track license,
time trial license, cup race license.
And I became an instructor.
I became a better driver by doing that from that period of 2002 to 2006.
I'd probably do 40 track days a year.
Everything from Thunder Hill, Laguna Seca, all the Rovals,
like Phoenix, California Speedway, Las Vegas Motor Speedway,
a lot of Willow Springs.
Like Willow Springs is 95 miles from where we sat.
We could be there in an hour and 20 minutes, hour and 30 minutes.
So I would drive there, do a track day drive back home.
And that would be the weekend.
Not trailer it.
No, do the math.
I'd do 95 miles each way.
So that's 190 on a Saturday, 190 on a Sunday.
I'd do 380 miles backwards and forwards,
plus do like the four to eight run sessions a day.
Wow.
So I never trail it.
I liked the idea of having a streetable track car, which is 277.
That's a 71911T that I bought at the Pomona Swamp Meet in 1999.
That's probably your most famous 91911.
That's what the Nike shoe is based on, on all the Hot Wheels.
So that car is 55 years old, and I've owned it for 27 years.
I've owned it half its life.
So I never wanted a car that I had to trailer to the track.
It's a streetable track car.
You're going to have fun in the canyons.
You're going to have fun on the track.
And you've got to remember the environment.
20, 25 years ago, these were 510 grand cars.
Dudes weren't rolling up in 992 GT3 RSs that spent all the money in the world.
It was just air cooled cars.
That was right when the 996 water cooled era was coming in,
and they were starting to creep into the track.
But no, I mean, for me, it was like I had to be able to drive to the track and drive by.
So you mentioned good timing before, like being in the 80s at a time where you could kind of
guide the fashion towards your own liking, and your clothing business popped off.
This is another time where timing really paid off.
And you really hit like the bull's eye on timing.
Yeah, you can't script timing because now I want to answer the question about urban outlaw.
Yeah.
I haven't forgot about it.
So by 2008, the pressure and the time spent doing a lot of track days,
the more competitive it became, the less fun it became, the more time it took,
the more energy, the more money.
You know, you're doing a three day track event.
Let's say Friday, Saturday, Sunday in Vegas.
You're leaving on a Wednesday, Thursday, and you're prepping your car before.
That's a lot of time.
It's a lot of money.
A lot of time, a lot of money.
So I stopped doing track days, and that was when I started acquiring a lot of Porsches.
2008, 2009, 2010, big acquisition period for me.
I mean, that was at a time where a lot of people were kind of doing damage control with
stock market crash and stuff like that.
Bingo, back to timing.
So it's funny, you mentioned that.
Some of these cars that I'm letting go at this upcoming no reserve arm,
Sotheby's auction, I'm looking back.
I bought a lot of them in 2008, 2009, and 2010, and I bought them inexpensively.
But back then, the internet wasn't really like it is today.
I'm still buying stuff off a Craigslist, auto trader, sports car trader.
I'm getting on flights to Phoenix and Seattle and picking stuff up inexpensively.
And then I start modifying them into these, what I call sport purpose,
And I go, what's the common bond there between me and Nike?
Well, you know, if you go back to Nike and Philip Knight,
and before it was even Nike making the waffle shoe in the garage,
that was it.
It was a passion thing, right?
Nike just became the biggest thing in the world.
And I'm doing what I'm doing.
But yet somehow there was a connection there.
So I'm rambling, but it's no different whether Tesla is coming by
or Nike is coming by.
People come by.
So back to Curator, you know,
I just took the Tesla Cybertruck artwork on the wall.
Because if you look, it's color blocked in the same colorway
of everything we're showing you here.
And it's on the 277 wall.
Well, for me, it's not Curator.
I get it.
This continuity, but it's randomness of this is all kind of random.
But that's the fun part, though.
It's like you can be overcurated.
It's like when you go to these places and all of a sudden it's like,
you might as well be a plug in Disneyland, right?
Yeah.
And you can drop into, oh, here's a Western theme bar in the desert, right?
But it might as well be a bar at Disneyland because it's overcurated.
The key is not being overcurated.
It's randomness.
And back to this, nothing needs to be perfect.
That's what I'm picking up, too,
is it doesn't feel like a set designer came in and did this.
Like this is all your life.
And it's very obvious that you've accumulated all this stuff
and everything has meaning.
And it's on display because it has meaning to you.
Right.
It's not a paint by numbers curated set designer.
You didn't get any of this from Ikea.
Well, I did.
I mean, I'm a big Ikea fan.
Ironically, let me tell you my Ikea story.
This is great.
You familiar with Swedish House Mafia?
Yes.
So you know they did a collab with Ikea.
Yeah.
So that was probably 10 pieces of Ikea signature furniture that was all black.
And that was debuted maybe three years ago.
And then I'm going to this opening party in Hollywood.
And I talk about, we all speak Swedish,
whether it's ABBA or Swedish House Mafia.
And I'm a Saab fan.
I used to own a Saab.
And I can say score.
You know, I'm kind of a Viking, right?
So I go to this premiere release event for Ikea, Swedish House Mafia.
Before you know it, one of them is called Magnus,
either Ikea or Swedish House Mafia.
They know me as, oh, you're that Porsche guy.
Before you know it, I've got Ikea coming down to the warehouse.
And I'm showing them vintage Ikea like that red swivel chair right there.
And I'm showing them all these modular Ikea desks, which you can't,
when you buy from Ikea, they look like this or the white.
Yeah.
But I'd reskin them in four mica that were all red, white and blue and they were modular.
And the Ikea guy's looking at me and he goes, we should collaborate.
Wow.
And I go, that'd be great because everyone's got a piece of Ikea furniture
because Ikea is great at storage and the great at certain things.
Yeah.
And you go, how do you connect those dots?
Well, they're connected.
And it's like, well, okay, it comes back to design, right?
I had just taken something very basic that everyone had, Ikea furniture,
but I'd reskinned it.
So these modular desks with all these shelves in different levels,
which are adjustable, is red, white and blue.
And he thought it was like the best thing you'd ever seen.
That's so cool.
So you just never know.
You know, it's like, there's no marketing team behind me.
It's not an agency.
There's no PR manager.
You know, do you see anyone here?
There's me and Serge and Willow.
That's it.
Yeah.
But stuff just organically sort of flows.
It either flows or it doesn't.
It's like creativity.
It's not like you turn a light switch on and go,
okay, today I'm going to make something great.
Yeah.
You know, sometimes you're banging your head against the wall
because you're not creating.
And that's why you got to get uncomfortable
and pull off the band-aid and close one door
to allow other things to come in.
I'm in my lesses more phase, letting things go.
I like that.
Decluttering, waiting for something else to come in.
You know, I might not fully know what it is today,
but I've, it's back to this life cycle,
the 10, 15 year life cycle.
Chapters, stories.
So you feel like you're at the end of a chapter
and you're going to do a new one,
but you don't know what the new chapter is,
but you're leaving space for it.
You got to create space.
You got to open space.
You know, I'm not, I'm still owning Porsches.
People think I'm selling my collection.
No.
Well, I'm selling 18 cars and I'm keeping 15.
So do the math.
I'm not selling at all.
But I'm decluttering.
You know, I'm just, I'm ready to experience some new things
and you got to let old things go.
It's a bit like if you've ever thought about cleaning out
your closet and your garage and you put it off
and you put it off.
What sparks joy?
What doesn't spark joy?
One day you're going to your closet, right?
And you start throwing shit out behind you into a big pile.
Yeah.
And then maybe you look at the pile and go,
maybe I'll keep that.
But then the other part of your brain goes, no,
big black trash bag, right?
And you pile all that shit up and you don't look at it.
Yeah.
It's going to good will.
It makes you uncomfortable to get rid of it,
but you have to do that.
Bingo.
That's where I'm at.
That's the catharsis of it,
is you have to force yourself out of your comfort zone,
even if you don't know what's next.
And I really resonate with that because I noticed,
I did comedy for years before I started at Donut.
That's where I met.
Seems to be a thing with Donut.
Yeah.
That's right.
I mean, that's.
Is it a place where failed comedians go or frustrated comedians?
I wouldn't call myself a failed comedian.
It's a place where comedians go.
Because we preach, you know, inclusivity and we try to be
the funniest car channel and stuff like that.
But my point was when I was doing comedy five nights a week,
I was always funnier after I went through a really bad breakup
and I was uncomfortable or like one time I got evicted
and I didn't know where I was going to go.
And I felt like I did some of my best art at that time.
And I needed that to become the person that I am now.
But in the moment, it's really uncomfortable.
You don't know what's going to happen next.
And it's pretty scary.
Become that adaptive swimmer.
Yeah.
Getting comfortable with the discomfort of not knowing what's next.
Yeah.
But you need it to grow as a person.
I'm the same way.
I get more creative when there's like,
Oh, there's no money in the bank.
What am I going to do?
Yeah.
So do you feel like you are at a point
where you're not creative right now?
No, right now I'm on an upcycle of creativity.
Yeah.
Six months a year ago, maybe I'd plateaued
and then I started putting tape on that car.
But, you know, three years ago,
I got this great opportunity to become a design consultant
with TWR Tom Wilkinson Shore Racing.
Oh, amazing.
So that V12 Supercharged Supercat,
which we debuted at this warehouse 18 months ago.
No way.
I'd wanted to do a hot rod Jag.
I'm a Jag guy.
I've owned E-Types and XJ, as you said.
I remember talking to Ian Callum,
who was a former designer of Jag in 2018,
about wanting to do an XJS hot rod.
And he just, and I spoke about it on Spike's show.
He just done his XJC coupe
and they'd done one for Nico McBain.
And long story short, I spoke to Jag and Jag Classic
and then Ian left and went his own way.
And then fast forward to Opportunity.
Four years ago, I got an email from this guy,
Lee Newton, former Porsche PR guy
who was consulting with Tom Wilkinson Shore Racing.
And for those that don't know,
TWR British Motorsports engineering firm,
British Touring Car Champion.
Amazing history.
In the 70s, developed the XJ220, XJR, XJ15,
one outright at Le Mans in 1988 with Jag.
If you've never seen Tom Waukenshaw,
what is it, the XJS at Bathurst,
is one of the most electrifying drives.
I still watch it probably once a month,
just because it's so, so fun.
So Tom's son, Fergus,
Tom sadly passed away on the early 2000s.
His son, Fergus, is basically rebranding TWR.
The first halo car is, it's not a Jag,
it's not an XJS, it's a TWR Supercat.
Yeah, designed by Keisel, right?
Yeah, so they approached me to be involved in the project
and I brought Keisel into the project.
Oh, nice.
I knew Keisel and said,
hey, I'm working on this.
I think you'd be great for it, lead designer.
Is he, is he super tall?
He's pretty tall, yeah.
I'm like 6'1", he's 6'5", 6'6".
Great guy, super talented.
So we worked together on that project.
We debuted that car November 18 months ago here
and then went to F1 in Vegas, an LA auto show.
Long story short, we're gonna, we're about,
I'm still on the project.
We're about to deliver the first production customer car
in the next couple of months.
And I'm getting that silver car back,
which I spec that color,
did the louvers on the fenders
and a few of the things on the interior.
That's sort of a press car that's coming back.
It's been in Europe.
That was the one that raced at Goodwood.
Went up the hill at Goodwood.
So, you know, if you watched it go up the hill at Goodwood,
that was fan favorite.
It was insane.
For a startup company,
there's a lot of people show at Goodwood
and don't race up the hill.
They'll do a demo run,
but they won't set a time.
That TWR finished in 11th position
with a sub 56 second run.
Wow.
So this thing was screaming.
Screaming.
So that car is a performance car.
You know, it starts off as a Jag XJS
and then becomes a 660 horsepower V12 supercharged
six speed manual.
That sounds magnificent.
Right.
It's got an epic sound.
So that for me was the sort of the beginning
of this second phase of kickstarting creativity
outside of the Porsche world.
Then I did a project with Pininfarina
on the Royal Electric Batista.
So for me to design with Pininfarina,
perhaps the world's greatest 95 year old Italian company,
mostly famous for Ferraris,
but they've done everything right.
For me to be collaborating with a Pininfarina
is sort of like, wow, how did that happen?
Especially on a 1900 horsepower
electric Batista.
Yeah.
Of which I've driven.
It's like the fastest thing out there.
Yeah.
Is it scary to drive?
It sounds scary, but you walk your way up to it.
Yeah.
And you get comfortable with it.
Is it four wheel drive?
Yeah.
Ultimately, the road determines the speed.
So I'll put it this way.
The 2000 horsepower Batista is not going four times quicker
up the crest than a 500 horsepower anything.
Yeah.
You know, it might be going 20% quicker.
So I'm at this crossroads now where I'm looking to collaborate
with other automotive brands that are not Porsche.
You know, when I saw what Mini did with Deus on that Mini,
I go, oh, that's great.
I mean, that's kind of right in my ballpark of
bold, color blocked, graphic type liveries.
And Deus is like in your strike zone too.
Yeah.
So these things, you know, I'm not out pitching myself,
but if it happens, it happens.
That's just kind of how it is.
If it's meant to be, it'll happen.
You know, the older you get, the more I realize patience is key.
A lot of young people just want stuff to happen like this
because we're in this fast paced disposable world, right?
Where it's like internet fame.
What does it really mean?
Likes on the ground?
What does it really mean?
Is it relevant?
Maybe for 30 seconds it is, but is it going to stand the test
of time like this did 14, 15 years later?
Yeah.
You know, or various things that are more tangible,
that are relevant, that defined an era or a movement
that you can say became a signature style of that era.
Whether it was serious clothing in the 90s
or urban outlaw in 2010s, teens, whatever you call it,
or wherever I'm going next, like who the f*** am I?
I'm a man with a beard that just likes doing cool shit
with cool people.
That's it.
Are you going to make more of these hats?
If you do, please let me be on that short list.
Well, this is a hat that is one of one.
There's a backstory behind it.
It's amazing.
I made it for my wedding.
Oh, nice.
You know, I married my sweetheart, Hannah Elliott,
who's a journalist writer for Bloomberg Business Suite.
We got married in Washington Square Park, New York City,
on June 17th, 2024.
I got it tattooed there, so I won't forget it yet.
June 17th, 2024.
So, you know, I've worn a lot of hats in my time.
You have your anniversary tattooed too many,
so you don't forget it.
I don't forget it.
I don't forget it.
When's yours?
October 28th, but legally it's November 28th
because we forgot to send in our thing.
So, funny story.
My buddy Phil, Mr. Enthusiast, who designed this watch.
Great guy.
Oh, that's super cool.
Conceptual artist, car guy, photographer, style guru icon.
I'll finish the story about the hat that I'm going to tell you about, Phil.
So, I'm looking for a hat, and I'm not finding anything I like,
and they're all expensive, and you know me, I don't want to spend money.
So, I'm like, f*** it, I can make a hat.
I got this big felt block and trimmed it down to a size
and shape that I liked and did the stitching,
then made the headband, and then every day when I'm walking willow,
I'm picking wild flowers that go in the hat.
Those are real flowers?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
But ultimately, I made it for my wedding, and I wear it every day.
But the funny part to the story is getting married on a Monday
in Washington Square Park in New York.
We don't get a permit.
We're bootlegging, outlawing, gorilla, and everything.
You know, we were going to a lope, and before you know it,
you tell a few people, your mom, and people start coming.
Now, suddenly, you're filling the whole park.
We got like 50, 60 people there, and we approached our buddy, Phil,
because he said, hey, we want you to get, we want you to marry us.
We want you to do the ceremony.
That felt such a cool guy.
He goes, sure, I go, here you are.
You can do it online.
Just get ordained online.
Yeah.
So, he does it online, but Phil, being an artist, he's not organized.
So, he does the ceremony, we're all in Washington Square Park,
and then we meet him the next day, and he brings all this paperwork.
You know, we had to go down to the city hall in New York,
get a marriage license.
So, we did that.
Phil had to fill in some paperwork, but he'd done it online,
but he never sent the paperwork in.
Oh, no.
So, we're like, Phil, this is not technically legal
to you send this paperwork in.
Yeah.
So, we're like, you got to send this shit in for it to be legal.
It's such a dumb thing to do.
You go to universallifechurch.org.
That's probably where it went.
I had to do this because I ordained Nolan's wedding,
and I was, you get a license, but it's just like,
such a, like, why do we need this formality in our system, you know?
So, that was our buddy, Phil.
It was like, no good decos unpunished and...
So, you had to delay it, like, sending it in?
We didn't delay it.
We just say, you better send this shit in for it to be legal.
You know, we got married on that day,
and everyone showed up, and that's all that mattered.
Yeah.
That sounds like a fun wedding.
It was great.
I mean, we literally walked from the hotel to Washington Square Park.
We stayed at the bar, so if you know where that is, we walked over.
Met all the people in the park, did the ceremony at 10, hung around till 11,
and then walked down to Tribeca to Walker Street to a friend's loft
where we had the reception and cut the cake.
And then in our white suits, it's like John and Yoko,
we're wearing white suits, and we're in a fresh pair of nikes, this pair, actually,
that was brand new and pristine.
We walked down to Walker Street, loft, had the reception,
then Hannah and I walked to Chinatown in our wedding suits,
got a Chinatown massage.
That took an hour, and then walked from there to Prince Street Pizza,
got a slice of pizza, and we walked back to the hotel.
That's amazing.
It was the greatest day.
That sounds like the best wedding.
It was a great wedding.
Did it our way, got a massage in Chinatown,
got some pizza and walked around.
That's great.
A lot of walking.
So I don't know if you remember this, but the first time that we ever spoke,
I called you because I was writing a video on the Porsche 928, or 928.
I still don't know how you designate how you say the numbers.
Tomatoes, tomatoes, you know, here's the 914.
If you're in England, they call it a 914, but it doesn't matter.
Porsche, Porsche, 928.
So anyways, I was writing this video on the 928,
and we were in this era, we were reaching out to people to give statements for the video,
and you just had so much knowledge on it.
And you talked to me for two hours without knowing who I was, what I was doing,
and I just want to thank you for being so kind to me pretty early on in my career at Donut.
And I feel like that's why people keep coming back to you.
You always make time for them.
You always, you saw me at Monterey Historic.
Monterey, yeah.
We just walked past, and I didn't know if you would remember me or not,
but you did, and we talked for a little bit.
I feel like every time I hear a story about you, it's always like,
oh yeah, Magnus is so nice.
He opened up his doors to us, and we shot there for hours,
or like, he told me everything I need to know about this one car,
and you're like, I feel like that resonates with people.
I feel like you're not just like this icon that knows so much about Porsche,
and art, and clothes, and stuff like that.
You're also just like a kind member of the community that's welcoming and inclusive,
and I want to thank you from the community for being that person,
because I feel like there's a lack of that.
Well, thank you for the kind, supportive words.
That means a lot.
I mean, to me, I'm no different than anyone else.
We're all part of the same community chasing that same dream, right?
Yeah.
And if I got time, I spend time.
You know, to sum it up, as a kid, I had quite a bit of success
in cross country running and middle distance running.
What?
At an early, early age.
Wow.
And I'm talking 10, 11, 12.
By the time I was 13, I was a North England schoolboy champion,
and I ran for this club called Hallamshire Harriers,
and in 1979, right before the 1980 Olympics,
one of my sort of heroes or someone that I looked up to was called Sebastian Coe,
and he ran for the same club that Hallamshire Harriers,
and Sebastian Coe was maybe five, six years, maybe seven, eight years old.
But he would go on to be Olympic champion and Olympic world record holder.
He won the 84 Olympics here in LA.
Oh, crap.
You know, an Olympic world record holder at 850 and 100 meter.
And the moral to this story is I've got a certificate from when I was 11 years old,
and I didn't even win the race.
I finished second or third.
But Sebastian Coe signed it, and all he put was, well done, Sebastian Coe.
Yeah.
And I'm still talking about this.
I'm 59, and I was 11 at the time, so do the math, whatever that is.
Almost 50 years later, because he stuck with me.
Someone that I respect had just said, well done.
Just gave you the time.
Time, support, and was positive.
There's so much negativity around, right?
And a little bit of positivity goes a long, long way.
Absolutely.
And it costs nothing.
And if I've got time, I take time.
I don't always have time.
And sometimes people want more time than you can give.
But a little goes a long way.
We're all in this together, right?
Doing what we love.
So that's kind of how I try to be all the time to all the people.
That doesn't happen all the time, but it's kind of how I try to be.
That's a great thought.
Which is why when I open my house, I'm signing whatever people bring.
Like the open house the other day, all I did for three hours was this.
Whether it was Larry Chen's book, posters, Hot Wheels, Nike shoes,
whatever it was, right?
Because we're all doing the same thing, following the same dream, right?
Getting along.
So that's it.
So I appreciate you taking time to thank me, and that means a lot.
Dude, thank you so much.
Let's talk about this auction that's happening that started yesterday as of this podcast,
Erin.
You are auctioning off 18 cars.
You're keeping 15, but you're auctioning 18 Porsches specifically.
Correct.
And this is going to be on RM Sotheby's.
Yeah, so no reserve online auction on RM Sotheby's.
It runs March 18th through the 25th.
So the only day that really matters is the 25th.
My taglines get out and bid.
But it's not just 18 cars.
There's 144 lots of parts and memorabilia.
That's awesome.
Nothing around us, but you know, it's collectibles, it's wheels, tires, gauges,
deck lids, grills, long blocks, transmissions, door handles, horn grills,
and then collectibles, posters and models and die casts and various cool things.
The Red Bull fridge that's around the corner.
I'm letting it go.
You're a cleaning shop.
I'm cleaning part of it.
I'm not cleaning any of this curated clutter.
This is all staying and everything on that wall is staying.
You know, part of the thing is I acquired this building 26 years ago and it's big.
So it allowed me the space to span out and possibly own more things than I really needed, right?
Humans like to collect.
I talk about all the time, whether it's baseball caps, sneakers, cars, guitars,
watches, stamps, trains.
I just had the time, energy and space to house it all under one roof.
And so the collection breaks down to 18 cars, two of them are parts cars.
Eight of them are transaxles, 924, 928, 944, 968, and eight of them are 911s.
Of those eight 911s, the oldest ones are 65.
There's a 66, a 67, the 74 slant nose, 76 turbos, 76 Carrera.
Are you selling the slant nose?
I'm selling that slant nose, which is a 74 US Carrera with that slant nose wide-body kit on it.
The red one, right?
The red one, the one that's in the corner of the garage.
And that's one of my favorites.
And then the two water cooled 911s, the king of the hill GT2 and GT3.
Wow.
And it's one of those things where some of those cars have owned almost 20 years.
They sort of tick the box of the goal of one of everything.
I've experienced them and, you know, the more I travel, the less I'm driving and the less
I'm running back to saying, hey, I got to drive that car.
It's sort of time to, everything we've been talking about is letting things go.
Yeah.
You know, some of them I've modified slightly, but it's not like,
it's not like the other cars that I'm keeping that are highly, highly modified.
You know, and interestingly, it took me a long time to get to this point of letting them go.
I was talking to RM Southern Busy a year ago and I've quietly been letting cars go
over the past five, six years, one here, one there.
Mentally, how did you start that process?
Hey, just by letting one go, you know, one time I had seven three-liter turbos.
I'm now down a two.
It was quietly let one go.
Did I miss it?
No, I thought I'd miss it.
I didn't miss it.
Let another one go.
Did I miss that?
No, don't even notice it.
Do you feel lighter?
Yeah.
And they haven't even gone.
I mean, the interesting thing is I've been, the process took time.
It took like six people, seven days to catalog it all and photograph it all.
And then I'm making little films.
And so of course I'm like, I'm driving all these cars, some of them for the first time in a few years.
Some of them started, some of them didn't.
But you know, I'm like, let me go drive them and really make sure I'm ready to disconnect from these cars.
See, if it was me, I would drive them and be like, you know what?
I think I'm going to hang on to this.
See, you're not ready.
That was two years ago.
Every single car minus two I drove.
And not one of them I thought I should probably keep this.
Yeah.
Why am I letting it go?
It's like I'm selling the 67s, one with a hand painted numbers on it.
But I've got another 67s.
It's a more special car.
Yeah.
That's more built as more of my personality on it.
So I'm keeping that one.
So I'm keeping the ones that are really sentimental or the ones that have got all my DNA that are fully built.
Yeah.
That, you know, yeah, I could rebuild them again, but I'm not going to.
I'm at a different phase in my era in my life of I'm not building the cars like I was building before.
I was building for myself and it was all part of that process.
And then sometimes when you're done, maybe you click with them, maybe you don't.
And then maybe they sit and you go, you know, you look at them and five years later,
you haven't put any more miles on it.
And then he start thinking, why do I own stuff if I'm not driving stuff, right?
You don't know what you want to do with it until you make yourself uncomfortable with the thought
of losing it or getting rid of it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's going to make room for other things.
I've never owned a 356.
Now I'm not saying I'm going to be buying 356s, but read between the lines.
Maybe I am, you know, I own a lot of silver cars.
I don't chase cars, but I'm like, maybe I'd want something that's not silver, right?
Different color, you know?
And so it's interesting how everyone's got an opinion on why I'm selling.
First of all, I'm not selling everything.
We've clarified that.
Second, and these are no reserves, so I'm not setting the price.
These may be the bargain of the week or they may not be.
Whoever's bidding against each other that wants it.
This is the opportunity for people that have always wanted one of my cars.
And you know, what separates me from all the other great people out there,
whether it's RWB or Singer or Gunthor or Total or whoever it is,
it's a business and they build customer cars.
I've always turned that stuff down.
So for anyone that ever wanted one of my cars, here's your opportunity to have one.
But there's a price point for everyone because first of all, they're all no reserve.
And there's a lot of entry level porches here, 924s.
These are entry level cars.
That kind of goes along with your philosophy of no safety net, take risks.
Correct. This is a risk.
People are like, why are you crazy?
You know what it means?
It means I'm ready to let them go.
Because if I wasn't, there'd be a reserve on it.
When people put a reserve on something,
they're not fully 100% ready to let it go unless it meets the reserve.
Yeah, it's kind of like, I know what I got, energy.
Yeah, I know what I got, energy.
It's like, my life's going to go on with or without these cars.
And something else is going to come in that's the next chapter
that I'm actually pretty excited about.
But I got to let that stuff go.
I'm not going to be defined by what I own.
It's part of who I am.
That's such a great statement.
But that's not going to define me.
Yeah, I'm that crazy hat guy.
And yeah, I'm the serious clothing guy.
Hey, aren't you Rob Zombie?
No, he's the other guy.
You know, he's the devil, man.
But you know, I'm the Porsche guy.
Yeah, but what's next?
What's the next chapter?
Well, there's a book over there and that's getting updated.
You know, the first book came out in 2017.
The one I'm going to give you came out in 2022.
And there's more chapters in it because life goes on.
You don't want to stay stale and platotus,
always looking back behind you what I did, right?
What I'm letting go is what I did.
What I'm looking towards is what I'm going to do.
I love that.
Well, I'm so excited to see what your next chapter is.
And I wish you the best luck.
And you've been such a great interview today.
Appreciate it.
And thank you for allowing us to hang out here
in this amazing garage and space.
That was so fun.
Thank you, Magnus Walker, for being on this podcast.
Follow me at Joji Weber.
Go to our on Sotheby's starting, I mean, yesterday.
Yeah, March 18th through the 25th.
The big countdown's on the 25th.
So all you got to do if you want something,
whether it's parts, memorabilia, or caries, get out,
well, register and then get out a bit.
Yeah.
And then people can follow you on Instagram at Magnus Walker.
At Magnus Walker, yeah.
I'm the man with the beard walking willow around the neighborhood
or at Magnus Walker on the grandma,
wherever else you consume content.
Yeah, content.
Also, detox from your digital content once in a while.
Digital detox, yeah.
And get out and walk, get your steps in.
Hell yeah.
Well, thank you for watching.
We'll see you in two weeks.
Keep the pedal to the metal and cheers and rock on.
About this episode
Magnus Walker shares his journey from a rebellious youth in Sheffield to becoming a renowned Porsche collector and cultural icon in LA. He discusses his evolution from selling vintage clothing to building a clothing empire, his passion for Porsche and car culture, and the philosophy behind his 'urban outlaw' persona. Magnus reflects on letting go of part of his extensive Porsche collection to embrace new chapters, emphasizing creativity, adaptability, and the importance of following personal passion over perfection. The conversation also touches on his collaborations, lifestyle, and the significance of community and authenticity.
Join us as host Joe Weber sits down with Rock Nā Roll Entrepreneur and Porsche Icon Magnus Walker to discuss how he acquired his dream garage. From humble beginnings selling vintage jeans on Venice Beach to appearing in Need For Speed, Magnus has been through a lot in his life and is ready to close a big chapter.
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