{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Hyundai and Kia are coming to crash the truck party","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/hyundai-and-kia-are-coming-to-crash-the-truck-party","audioUrl":"https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/RECU1395091001.mp3","description":"In a shocking turn of events: Both Hyundai and Kia are preparing body-on-frame pickup trucks. Sounds far-fetched, but it’s true, and it’s quite the development as these two juggernauts continue to blaze a trail forward challenging the rest of the industry on multiple fronts.\n\nIt doesn’t sound like we’ll have long to wait. Now Hyundai announced it will kick off a family of body-on-frame vehicles in the U.S. before 2030 and teased them with an SUV that looked like a Bronco competitor. A week later, Kia confirmed it too will be bringing a body-on-frame truck to the U.S. by 2030, and it even talked powertrains. \n\n\n\nSenior Editor Caleb Jacobs and Director of Content and Product Joel Feder dive behind-the-scenes on Hyundai and Kia preparing to sell you a pickup truck, and what comes next. \n\n\n\nStories mentioned in today's episode:\n\nHyundai Targets Bronco, Wrangler with Body-on-Frame Boulder SUV Concept\n\nHyundai Learned the Hard Way What Truck Buyers Do and Don’t Want\n\nMidsize Trucks Have All the Same Problems. Hyundai Thinks It Can Fix Them\n\nKia’s Launching a Body-on-Frame Truck by 2030: TDS\n\n\n\n00:00 Intro\n\n06:55 Hyundai and Kia have body-on-frame trucks coming\n\n13:26 What Hyundai has told The Drive its truck needs to be\n\n16:55 Which powertrains will these trucks have?\n\n21:21 Kia and Hyundai dealers are a risk\n\n25:45 What do these trucks need to be to win?\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. 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